Grant Calls Kluver Out | WUW 599

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
A peak behind the curtain of what the extra weekly
episode looks like on Patreon. Again, we explain the benefits
in this episode. Please consider joining the Walk On Army
for some fun perks, most importantly helping out the children.
Grant and I dive into kernevet topics both in sports, news,
pop culture, anything that's exciting to talk about. We try
to bring a little entertainment everybody's week. Unbelievable that we've
hit six hundred episodes all because of you guys. Thank

(00:22):
you so much. Let's have a day. Let's go Welcome

(00:51):
into everybody. By the way, and if you're watching on
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to be DHD. It's his DHD on his helmet. But
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of this year know that the goal is fifty two
episodes for fifty two weeks. Because every once in a
while there is an occasional hey, we can't record. I've
got something going on. Grant had a busy week of
work one time, and so this is what you get
the casual sports fan podcast. We're going to get into
several things. There's a couple of topics, random shit that

(01:54):
goes down. Maybe we talk how many how many men
does it take to take down a gorilla? And a
whole lot of other things, and I know that that
fits with the theme. Grant that, like most people have
already hashed that one out a week ago.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
At this point, say, I have a lot of stuff.
I mean, I'd love to talk about, but usually this
comes out the same day. But now it's going to
be who scores of hours.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
It'll be yeah, it'll be three days later, but it'll
be okay, uh this well here here, this will make
you feel a little bit better. Grant. For those that
are on the Patreon, they are going they're gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, all right, so.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
You can talk about things that are relevant today. How
many how many Anthony Edwards? Does it take two to
beat a gorilla in a fight to the death.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh, I don't know. I mean I feel pretty good
about it if it was Anthony Edwards, but I mean
outside of I don't even know if he's my top
NBA player choice.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Though, which which human are you taking to require the
least of to beat a gorilla in a fight to
the death? Like like if but you just you don't
even you just like sheer mass? Yeah, Like do we
go with the Mountain Thor.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
From Game of Thrones?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, that's like do we only need do we only
need like thirty seven Thors to beat a gorilla in
a fight? No?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
You still need you need thirty seven just to be there,
like they're getting killed off first. Like it's all this
is the debate of the one hundred men versus the gorilla.
What I think it truly comes down to is it
could be Honestly, I think it could be one hundred mes,
but seventy of those mes, it's all about mentality. Seventy
of them have to be willing to die, and then

(03:32):
the remaining thirty that survive have to be completely numb
to the grisly murders that are taking place in front
of them. That's what it has to be. Because if
one if one of you, imagine a mile of bodies,
because like, look if one hundred is I don't think
people as one hundred is so many.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, it's so many. It is over Like gorillas are
immensely stronger than one person, right, but like especially people
are forgetting to one gorillas get tired to guys, sure
this happens, like it it's gonna take a lot of
effort from the grill to kill thirty people forty people

(04:12):
and then you still have sixty left.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, right, is there is there an issue where?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And also so here's the other thing is that they're similar.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I'm glad you thought this up.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'd opposed to. I don't know if that's even the
right word. There's similar build is what they like? Oh,
they got opposable thumbs or whatever, and like they can
do all this stuff. We taught them signed language. They
know all the They're just like humans, right that they're
not like as coordinated and like they like whack and grab,
but they can't. Like it's you're not battling like John Jones,

(04:44):
Like the girl is not gonna put anyone in an
arm bar. There is not the it's not also like
the John Wick of gorillas one hundred versus one.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
So you're firmly on the fact that that one hundred
men win.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, here's the if it's like one hundred me right now,
we lose because it's gonna be like one guy runs
up there and he just get instantly just backhanded by
the gorilla, or like the gorilla just picks up like
knoxis they like to rip.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, I was gonna say, that's what I mean. It's
just like there's gonna be there's gonna be a lot
of arms that are missing from bodies at the end.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, and we're like the ninety nine of them's are
sitting there like oh my god. And then it's over
after that, Like it is like that is the kill
shot out. But if the other if it's just like
robots basically like no, we are committed to this, we
are we will die before this happens. Yeah, and like
we all know as we're in the like I don't know,

(05:41):
like I'm picturing like it's a military movie where they
have like you're in the the chopper or whatever. Everyone's
waiting to parachute out into the gorilla sanctuary or wherever this
this battle is taking place, and uh, you're looking around,
it's like, well, seventy of us guaranteed are going to
die right now, Yeah, but thirty people Like then you're

(06:02):
still thirty left. Like it's a ton of people.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
So I do think that if you're going to talk
about this, you have to approach it from the perspective
of like as much reality as possible, where, like you said,
the first guy runs up or maybe a couple rush,
you're like, hey, let's rush him with five to start,
you know.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
No, not even five, like you need twenty at once.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And the initial and those who were not chosen to
rush in the initial attack are now watching destruction. And
I do think that that has to play a role
in this argument, because that's going to be a piece
of it. Now, maybe you get some just some some
military guys who are just savages and that they are
they are committed to the cause and they know there's

(06:44):
gonna be death, and they're a little bit more numb
to it than your average person. But like you said,
if it's you, if there's fifty of you and fifty
of me, and that's the one hundred. Man, I'm watching
those first guys go and I'm now questioning, like.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like I'm picturing we're all in an arena, yeah, one
of them, Like let's say the first time of the Culver,
do I befriends up trying and then it's immediately like
the scene in Avengers where Hulk just is throwing Loki
around the room, like smashing him with one arm, just
up and down through to the top of Stark Tower
or whatever. It is great scene and you're like, oh

(07:19):
my gosh, that was not even close, Like I'm picturing
that instantly in a ninety nine. Others of us are
just sitting there like all better, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
They all have the emotional response and like, better make
sure my will is in order.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
This is it's not gonna go all. But if it's
just we're community to this, we got one hundred ones,
it's not one hundred one on once, then you're the
humans are out one hundred versus one.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I think I think you can handle what I was
gonna bring out as a community. Here is here is
my one issue is you know, a gorilla isn't like
you know, it's not like the size of a building.
Only so many humans could kind of like do image
at a time, like what a gorilla is he eight
feet tall, four hundred pounds, Like he's he's big.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think you can get fifteen on it at once,
though fifteen maybe I think you can get fifteen people
doing something.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, it kind of limits you because at that point
it really is just one versus fifteen and now you're
just playing that stamina game.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
But again, like eight of them can be getting murdered
at once and you still have ninety two others working
to accomplish this task.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, you're right.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I think at some point it's just a like I'm
just picturing. Maybe I'm totally wrong. I think the gorilla
is going to be exhausted after sixty five.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
And that's what I don't need. That's what I don't
know is like not.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
That we're not getting tired, but I can't imagine that. Again,
you can't have one hundred at once.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I don't know if a gorilla in the wild
has ever been cardiovascularly taxed to this, to this theoretical
level and I just I think this is an experiment
that needs to be run. I do think it's an
interesting like how many John Jones does it take? Right
with a killer mentality? How many Thors versus see.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think you almost want Like I'm picturing.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like if it's my mom, Like I I it's gonna
require a couple thousand.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's gonna be bad. And I was half joking, but
now I'm kind of serious about it. Where I was
like one gorilla versus one hundred Robert Galleries, Like I
think like two thousand and six Robert Gallery on the Raiders, Yeah,
is like the perfect specimen for this challenge.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Do you want someone a little bit more mobile or
do you just want the size?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I just I think it's size and strength is the key.
Like I'm picturing like we want thirty of him, thirty
prime Evince will Fork, Oh, like we just the biggest
issue is going to be mass. Yeah, Like gorillas are huge.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta fight mass with mass.
We want this Robert Gallery right here.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, Like I want six eight massive dude strong, that guy,
and we just need focused, focused combat and I think
he I think I think humans can do it I agree,
but again, probably gonna be seventy deaths.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
NONI I will say, yeah, no, there's gonna be a
lot of deaths. Uh, and they're not.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's not just like oh he he got knocked out.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh no, there is no good death.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's grizzly.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
The pile of bodies is gonna it's gonna be a scene.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
What did you see? And then this is wor it's
great too. I didn't even realize how many like men
versus wild animal by group stories there are out there.
Like I saw one. It was like five wrestlers versus
grizzly bear, like this D three wrestling team or whatever.
We saw a hike grizzy and they fought a grizzly bear.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Wait and they won.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Uh, they got pretty beat up, but the grizzly bear left.
But it's also they didn't kill the grizzy. He's not dead,
but it was enough that it's still a grizzly bear.
Sure that the bear was like, I'm I'm done with this.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
He's too much.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's one forty five wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
They got me, I've gotten like lines, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You can look at his face at it's like clearly
like a bear pot hit him in the face. Yeah,
he's got like his arms in a sling, and he's like, yeah,
I just saw him tackle my boy. And I just
got in there, like I can't imagine what it's like.
You just had a hike and someone you would like
to say.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
You, I imagine, Grant, You're on a hike, you live,
you've lived in Colorado. You're wearing the avalanche hat. We're
gonna get to the avalanche here in a second at
this when's when's game seven? By the way, we talk
to the people who Saturday. Oh, so the people already
know the result? Did the avalanche pull it out? You know? Oh? Yeah,
you live in you know out there in the wilderness
of Colorado. There's there's there's some there's some some beasts

(11:36):
you wouldn't want to run into. Can you imagine running
into a fucking grizzly bear?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, this is also I can't. I'd like to say,
like you were five of your dogs, right, you're let's
say the Ben You're on the hike with the Ben House.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
We're fucked.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Grizzly bear tackles Josie Jewel.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'm hiding behind Oh Jesus.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Christ, like you're telling me you're going up there, and
you're starting like throwing a like undercuts uppercuts at a
grizzly bear.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I'm getting grant.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'm guessing you're starting there just throwing like form shivers.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm guessing right now, if it's if it's no weapons, which,
by the way, if the Bent and crew was walking
in the wilderness where any you know, bo Bauer is
pieced up, and so is Drake, and so we have
at least two armed people. But if we didn't have
any weapons, I'm guessing I could send a text to
the group right now and it would be fun to
get the response. Maybe on the next episode. Not the

(12:30):
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(13:54):
the on the next episode, we won't have a result.
But I guess if you text those guys right now,
all of them are saying, we're totally screwed, We're.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Done, And I just i'd like to say I'm the
guy that jumps in there, but I just don't think.
I think in the moment, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
To be like, well, you might not have a choice
if it wrestle this grizzly bear.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Like, well, I think it sounds so what do you
what do you say you're gonna if he tackles one dude,
you get out. I think I have a chance. It's
more than it's a way better chance than me starting
and just like hey, knock it off, grizzly bear. Hey
stop that.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, I'm guessing that if you leave one guy for dead,
everybody else could probably get away. Yeah, the grizzly bear
is now going to be pretty satisfying.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's what I'm saying. It's so cool that like these
wrestlers were like, no, we just all thought a grizzly bear.
Do you think they were just double leg like those
like you can't imagine Like ever, like if somebody's like, hey, dude,
you didn't pay me back for golf. It's like, well,
I fought a grizzly bear for you, yeah, yeah, forever? Well,
actually yeah, I actually I literally lost my my career
permanently ended my faces permit my face. I paid you

(14:54):
because I thought a grizzly bear for you. So I
think you can buy your own hot dog at the
baseball game. Okay, I think your nine dollars won't be missed.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm not venmoing you for the Chipotle that we just ate.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
If we're talking tag lines, by the way, I have
someone I want to get off my chest.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, can we do?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
What? Are we due for a redesign of the graphics here?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
We probably are?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, the green is very it's very aggressive.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
It was okay, so here it's it's it's uh and yeah,
you're right, quit a pungent a smelling adjective, but it's
still somehow pungent. Sure, well, and that was sort of
the original, so DHT you're familiar with right, Sure, you
were a part of that for a long time. And
then Drake went off and ruined this whole operation. Nonetheless,

(15:41):
that was Drake's goal with Goopy. He's literally a jar
of goop, right, and I don't know what goop is.
It's just something that Drake created and he's like, hey,
let's create a mascot, and he wanted it. Pungent is
maybe the best word for what he was looking for,
because that's sort of the vibe of DHD. It was
literally dickhead Tuesday. It's like, how can we get on
for an hour and just be dickheads and talk about

(16:02):
the most like disgusting, like bro like college locker room
type stuff. And so that was the result of that.
Now I agree that Taglines probably deserves its own rebrand,
and I don't know, maybe some people in the in
the chat, can you know, leave a comment. Do you

(16:23):
have an idea of what colors you'd like to redesign
it to? What what style you want you wanted to
do you wanted to revert it, just back to the
black and gold and just match it with the rest.
I mean, we could do avalanche colors.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't care. Let's figure it out.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Do you want to do avalanche colors?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Maybe it's probably better off pod topic. I don't think
if you're trying to convince people to set off for
your subscription, like, oh good, I watched these guys debate
what color their graphics were for twenty guys.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Sure, I mean, we can move on.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'm just thrown it out there.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, this is but it is a little bit of
a representation of what you get here because we're more
off script here, even more off script than we are
in the normal show. This is very much so less
Hawkeye stuff, although we do talk about the Hawks on
this on the show when it's relevant, but we talk
about other sports as well, like professional hockey, the Avalanche.
And I was tweeted at I woke up to a

(17:13):
notification I wonder if Tyler Klover is watching or stayed
up to watch the Avalanche force a Game seven. And
then I responded to you in the morning and said,
you know what, I was probably asleep. Here's the same.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Here's my concern is that, uh, I feel like you
could be Here's okay. The bond of co host is sacred.
It is a I know where you're going with this
important thing, and I just feel like you could be
doing more as a co host to be supporting me
right now as I'm going through trials and tribulations like

(17:46):
I'm out here fighting for my life every single night
of these I mean you went to one of these games.
For those that I went there, I I'm sweating my
ass off all the time for these games. I'm up
till midnight one am. That's watching these games all at
the same time too. The schedulers. I gotta imagine that
the rate of cardiac arrest is up in the state

(18:08):
of Colorado due to the scheduling of these playoffs. They're
always at the same time, and every game is stressful.
It's the only two game sevens. There's no other game
sevens in the NHL right now besides this one, and
then Clippers Nuggets just is now going to Game seven two.
Both of them are on Saturday, and I just feel
like you you could be supporting it more.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh yeah, because yeah, you've got the Nuggets thing going
on too. Huh you.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I just feel like, of either of those two, what
are you doing to support those costs?

Speaker 1 (18:35):
What are you.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Doing to be a supportive co host?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, you're right, I'm not doing a lot, I'll be
honest there.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh it's very clear. Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
By the way, the for those that did care about
the colors burgundy, steel, blue, and silver, I'm in that's
the the Avalanche colors. As you can see by the
hat there. You know I'm not doing a lot, And
to be honest, I probably, historically Grant how been a
selfish guy. I bias to the selfish side, right, I don't.
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Look.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
The first thing that I'm looking for is not to
do for others, and I should I should be better
about that. And I agree with you that the co
host chemistry is sacred and extremely important to the success
of the entire operation. Sure, now, I still think we
put out a pretty good product. I hope everybody that's
getting their first taste of the taglines experience today they

(19:27):
feel that. But you're right, I probably should do more.
You tell me right now that the last the Game
seven are both tomorrow on Saturday. Yeah, Saturday, Saturday. It's Friday.
As we record this Friday afternoon evening. This will be
out on Monday. Except for those who are already subscribed
to the Patron Could I could? I gosh, what do

(19:50):
I have tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's a Saturday. I know you have nothing, but when you.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Have a kid, that's not always true. I think, Wow,
Am I gonna dedicate time to watch some of the
Avalanche Slash Nuggets games. Oh, I might what what channels
can I find them?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
This is the first time have you not seen a
single moment of any playoff sports so far? This this
entire Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I saw the highlight the next day. I saw the
highlight the next day of the buzzer beater air ball
slash put back by Jokic.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
You seen it at the same time? Okay, okay, Avalanche
or on ABC? Okay, it's seven. I think I get
that channel. It's be hard en not to and then
the will be on TNT at six thirty.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Seven and six thirty. Well, okay, so I'm not going
to catch the start because we're in the middle of bedtime,
but I could probably pick it up at six thirty,
now I could. I could start it at six thirty.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Convince Lauren that you say, hey, you know this is
we're supporting. This is this is.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Brent pleaded with me that he needs my support. This
is it's game that will you's got.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
He's got two game sevens he's working on right now.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
What I'm gonna guess at the Avalanche based on what
I know, are the dog in that game.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
We've been the favorite for every single game. Oh, this
has been a complete meltdown. Oh the I've never been
so frustrated with a playoff series then this one. Uh I.
In my opinion, we've been the better team every single game,
but yet we're We were down three two last night,

(21:32):
we were facing elimination. It's been a very strange series.
Like up until Game four, we had led for every
single second of it, besides like four because they do
we did two all the time losses, and then we
got smacked in another game and now we're here though.
This is all that matters is one more game.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And the Nuggets Are they the dog? Are they that one?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Actually? Because probably close to a coin flip is do
you want to guess the so you have?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
So you, as a Colorado fan, have a legitimate chance
of the Nuggets and the Avalanche advancing to the next
round on the same night, almost at the same time, maybe.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
And also a very good chance of neither of them.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Doing of neither of them doing it in your heart
just being ripped out for I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yes, this is why I need the support of a
co host.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
But okay, all right, I get absent. I can I
can you, I can watch my first live minutes of
basketball and hockey in the same day. I just can't.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I just can't help but notice that, like you know,
I've been I've been exerting so much myself from my couch.
But I imagine if that was double what we could.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Accomplish, what we could do, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Just imagine. I don't know. We'll see, so we'll see.
I have my own issue though here. Oh okay, I'm
supposed to go to a concert barbecue festival on Saturday.
Oh no, I don't know what to do. Well, is
it I can clearly watch the games, like on my phone.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
If I was gonna say, do you have a subscription
service where you could take the game with you?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm here's what I'm hoping. It's right next to a
and I I'm not a huge fan of watching at bars. Sure,
I know there's a bar right across the street. Yeah,
openers go on. I might be like, hey, I'm going
to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Leave sure, Yeah, because how many people are you attending
this with and how.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's a biggerup it's like fifteen to twenty. Oh, it
is a massive group.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Absolutely, I think I could just leave.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yes, I'd be like, guy, it's a great show. That
was awesome. Yes, it just never was never even there.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Dude, you have to you have to.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Hey, I'm gonna go get drinks.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
You guys want any what's that called the Irish goodbye?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, it's not a goodbye, it's a Irish break. It's
because I'm gonna I'm gonna rejoin, just like it's at
six thirty.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
How long is the concert thing?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh, it'll probably go to like nine thirty.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
You're not going to rejoin. That game is going to
last exactly the length until the end of that concert thing,
and you're gonna watch it.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah No, and then and then I'm gonna walk back
in and be like, guys, that was a great show.
Yeah okay, and then I'll meet up with the man
like we'll probably hang on after, probably meet up at
that same bar across the street.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Sure, yeah, you're right, you're right. I e that is
a predicament for you, I would say, and worst casing
YouTube TV on the phone, yeah, I could pull it
up the heck.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
But I was like, it's just it's it's one thing
to have one game seven on a Saturday. Conveniently, it's
not too It's like if there's not even that many
game sevens no rare, and there's if the Blues win tonight,
there's gonna be another one on Sunday. Why couldn't we
have been the Sunday one? Also? Why is it at

(24:40):
six orty? You had all day to do it?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Because this wonderful? That's true, that's prime time. It's prime timing.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Here's here's the issue too.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
They want the number, they want numbies.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
And this is something I wanted to ask you, bous Well.
We have the Kentucky Derby? Is this weekend?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
It is? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
The big Derby, the big It's is it? This is
the as I feel like of the horse racing community.
You have the Preakness, you have the Oakmont as well,
but everyone seems to be tuned in for the Derby,
regardless of your interest in horse racing.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Uh have you how much you know? This is a
sports podcast at its core? You are the co host
of a sports podcast. What say you, Tyler Clover about
the Kentucky Derby, the biggest horse ring racing event of
the year. What say you, Tyler Clover? What are your
your takes on? At your opinions? What horse will you
be taking?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I like journalism.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Grat you on just for the to pick the number
one horse on the board.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
And you thought I didn't know a horse?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Are you just saying you like the field of journalism?
You just like you like integral reporting?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Is I like journalism too? It's your major, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Formerly didn't use it?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
But no, not well that's not it's not formally your major.
It's it's it's forever your major. You back to college.
I guess you could get another degree. But yeah, all
I know is I saw was it Scott Doctorman tweet
about journalism the other day? Obviously the pun because he
is a journalist. And then I took a look. And

(26:17):
then my father in law is big into horses. He
likes horses.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, okay, can we call him up right now?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
He is retired. He probably would answer.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
To be Collins back. Hey, just let me know what
do you think about Sandman five to one?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay, you want to hear a good story?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Actually? Sure? So this was.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Back in twenty twenty. Gosh, this might have even been.
This was before COVID. I think this might have been like,
in prep for my wedding, my wife is going to
like look at rides like a wedding dress with her
sister and her mom at the time, and they were
meeting in Altoona, which is where Prairie Meadows is the racetrack.

(27:01):
So like in their minds they're like, oh, great, Tyler
and Mike is his name. They can just go to
the casino and we'll go look at wedding dresses. It'll
be great, it'll work perfectly. I'm like, okay, cool, Like
we can go gamble or whatever. So me and Mike
go watch the horses. This is like the first time
I've seen the horses since I was a kid. Sure,

(27:22):
he's big into horse racing, like he used to vet
it all the time. Whatever he loves. He goes out
there occasionally, so he knows way more than me. He's
like explaining the book that they give you. He's like,
here's what this means. Here's what this means, like talk
about the trainers and the pedigree of this horse and
all this stuff. I open up the first two races
of the day and I put in like a trifecta.

(27:45):
I'm just I'm putting in these things that don't even
make sense to me, and I bank for like three
hundred dollars on the first two races combined and end
up coming coming up like two hundred and fifty bucks
on the day, and he didn't win a single race,
And I thought, this is this is easy inter's luck.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I guess that's why. That's why, that's why the lights
in Vegas are so bright. Everyone's gambling career starts with,
oh my god, this is so easy. This is the yeah,
I can. I'm just going to do this professionally.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
That was so easy. I don't even know what I'm doing.
And it never lasts. It never works that way.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
So journalism happens to be the favorite. Huh, journalism is
the heavy favorite three to one. Wow, very heavy favorite
the horses here.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yet I feel like the heavy favorite almost never wins though,
well I mean right, but apparently this is like the
chosen one of horses.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Got some fun names on this chunk of gold.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Sandman Sandman's my personal favorite, just because I want to
the enter. Sandman jokes are going to be awesome. When Wow,
for the.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Second I thought that said t tits tastick. It's his tastic. No,
I'll take him. I love that name. What's the seven horse?
Not horrible? Odds, but lux sore calf fa I love seven.
Seven is my number, Okay, I don't know about any
of these. Oh, and there's a Japanese horse.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Japanese horses are popular lately too, Like we've been on
the like a lot of the Japanese horses have been
picked to win the derby a lot recently. Really, a
Japanese horse is number one, uh he is?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
He is? His name is Admire admired DAYTONA trainer is
Yukihiro Kato thirty one.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I don't I don't know which it might be the
Japanese horse. I believe if you remember American Pharaoh, the
triple crown winner, American Pharaoh's son is running in this race. Seriously, Yes,
that's awesome, bro, I gotta what's his son?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Dude? Do you pantic?

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think it is the Japanese horse. I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
What's the horse? Secretariat?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's Luxer Cafe is oh, dude? Is American Pharaoh's son?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Heavy money on?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I wish on Luxer Cafe.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
This is why we need If anybody has a hookup
at like Riverside or Prairie Meadow Meadows or some book
we like. The book could be taking like having a
significant ROI on our podcast, and obviously we would love
a book sponsor to help the back end financial numbers
of this thing. If somebody has a hookup, let me know,

(30:22):
because we would love a little a sponsorship or an
ad read with a with a book or a the
Kentucky Derby. I mean, we could just be sponsored by
the Kentucky Derby. Oh no, the fact that he is
the son of him that makes me feel great.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I will say I heard I was listening to something
about Secretary the other day and dude, nobody's ever going
to beat him. Well, Secretary was taking Star Wars, but no,
I think that there was Seriously, I think they concluded that. No, dude,
I thought his heart was just bigger and he was
just literally the perfect biomechanical horse.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It could be the perfect bio mechanical horse. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
But he could be on steroids too, most of the best.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
But you know what, I still say, Lance Armstrong's gris
cyclist ever, And well.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
That's because literally everybody was on steroids.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
And I also can't He's the only cyclist I can name,
so uh.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Uh, let me let me name you one. Can you
name Paul gotcha, uh, Teddy.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I have no way of correcting you on this, so
all my.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Cycling pol gotcha. But his last name is actually spelled
like Pogo car. He was the winner like three of
the last four or five years in the Tour de France,
and he was like this kid that just had an
unbelievable vo two Max. He's like insane.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
He's got a great documentary too on I think it's
on Max. I want to say, really it's just called Lance.
Oh yeah, awesome documentary.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Lance.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
It's crazy too because you it's one of the few
documentary Like this is the whole Lance Armstrong thing and
we don't have to talk about for very long, but
we can't. You watch that documentary. You watched them documentary
of the movie whatever you want to call it. You're like, wow, Lance,
the way he explains it, he's actually he's right, Like
he makes a lot of good points as to why
he had a good case for taking the steroids, and
he had he had the best case. But he's such

(32:13):
an ass. Oh yeah that You're like, I don't want
you like, I still feel like you should be pun dude.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I kind of like that he's an ass.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I like, you're just like, it's just it's such a
weird thing. It's like, you're right, but I don't like
the way that you are right.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
So yeah, So for anyone who's unaware, like at the time,
there wasn't a guy in the top one hundred in
the world that wasn't doing e po and steroids. Still yeah,
likely still they're they're finding ways better at it. And
so like, if Lance didn't do it, no one would
know who he was because he wouldn't have been.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh, people knew Lance before.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was strong, dude, everybody had to live strong. How
much I'm gonna search it? You take a guess.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Let's say still, Actually, you know what, I'll still rep
Live Strong.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I'm gonna buy it too.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'll buy a two shirt. I don't care it's for
a good cause. I don't care. I'll rep it anyway.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Could you give me a guess, your best guess at
how many Livestrong bracelets were sold?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, you gotta think there's a lot of repeats, and
in bulk, there's definitely a bunch of them sitting in
the bottom of a dumpster too. Sure, I'd like, there's
going to be a dumb guest, like fifteen million.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
One hundred million.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
That's insane. That's that's one in three Americans had a
there's a lifstrung bracelet for him. Correct? Correct, I was
probably doubled up on live strong bracelets.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh, I had two for sure. And at one point
I remember those when when bracelets were big. Not this
would have been oh god, this would have been like
two thousand and you were it was like your birth
year probably when it was really really big.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I feel like I remember like livestrung was kicking U
when I was in elementary school.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
So okay, So was it more middle school? I think
that I think that it wasn't high school. It was
definitely middle school.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
What was lance armstrung popped? I could tell you what
when did exposed? Oh he wasn't exposed to twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh yeah, dude, it was now in a while I
was in middle school.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, so this it was kick okay? Wow? Then okay,
I was like, I was like livestrong meant something. When
I was in elementary.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
There was a there was a phase that we went
through as I think late elementary kids maybe early middle school,
where you wore as many bracelets as you could you
basically wore your entire collection? And I think between the
two arms, I think I wore thirty of those rubber
wristbands to school.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, Like, I mean, this is not to make me
sound like I was better than everyone, because I did
a bunch of dumb stuff too. I always thought that
that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I looking back, I should have been beat up and
left at the playground I did.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I did a bunch of dumb stuff when I was
growing up, don't get wrong.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
The only thing I one of the only things I
never got into it was like, why do I need
eight hundred brislets right now?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Did you ever get into yo yo's?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
No? I remember at elementary school they would do like
an assembly and it was just an ad advertisement for
yo yos. Some dude would come in and be like,
I'm selling you yo yos, like.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
You think you're like I do elastic book.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I'd do cold calls all the time. I can't imagine
cold calling for.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yoos to.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Hundreds of nine year olds and well, no, that you're
doing it in person. It's yoyo demonstration. And then those
you're cold calling to these kids who are then have
to go tell their parents about it.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
And you have no money, You're for a secondary cold call.
It's like, hey, here's why you should. But that's actually
easier though, because the there's a disconnect. You create the hype,
you create the here's why you need this. Then the
kids are like, dude, fuck yeah, we're gonna be awesome
at yo yo ing, Mom, get me a yo yo.
And then because parents do anything for their kids, like okay,

(35:50):
I'll buy you a twelve dollars yo yo. And that
guy probably made bank. I'd love to I'd love to
get a hold of the guy that came to your
school and was selling yoyo's and see how much money
he made.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I don't think a lot. I'm gonna be honest, he's
a millionaire. I kind of hope not if. I kind
of hope he's not. H But I remember I had
the I'm pretty confident this is gonna be this is
the most like twenty eleven thing that a man could do. Okay,
I'm pretty sure I had the rebox? What did like

(36:22):
the zig zag rebox? Do you remember those? Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yes, Oh man, those were good shoes.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
What were those called? I don't know, awesome shoe.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
They were an.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Awesome shoe I see like and I'm an on cloud
guy personally, but oh you're an on guy. Oh I
like him a lot, Swiss brand, Roger Freederer. But those shoes,
I see them now, I'm like, the this is just
the modern version of the rebox zag. But I had
the rebox.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Zig zag, the pulse, the zig pulse.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm pretty sure there was a Lance Armstrong one. There
was like a live Strong one and had a yellow
bottom to it and a black and a black like
I don't know whatever the rest of the shoe is
called the mesh, and I'm pretty sure I convinced my
dad to buy. She was like, cockeye colors. Boom, we're in.
We'll take you, got it, don't We'll take three of them.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
They are showing up.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
So these are just gonna be well, buy the next
shoe sized up to. These are just going to be
the rest of your shoes.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
But this is now your school shoe until you're out
of school.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
This is you're going to keep buying these ones. Uh
but yeah, that was how much I can't That just
shows you the point of how big Lance arms from
God was. School children were buying his shoes a cyclist's
shoes that he doesn't even wear when he's competing.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
He was massive, dude.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
He was just huge, super huge, Like it was first insane.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
He might have been the most popular athlete in the world,
to be honest, I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Mean, there's no way he was biving them like Ronaldo.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
But was Ronaldo playing when he was at his peak?

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yes, Renoldo has been playing forever. Ronaldo's Ronaldo might be
forty Okay, but and I guarant you started playing professional
soccer and it was like seventeen.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
All right, Well, I'm actually curious now this is just
so Yeah, he was born wow. Uh yeah, he's thirty
nine forty is definitely playing.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
He was in the prime of his career.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
You're right, I feel like he's in the prime of
his career. Now what an attractive man.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
He's pen Aldo right now, he's cherry picker.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Cherry Okay, So the the Avalanche and the Nuggets are
going to take home a Game seven. You're gonna advance. Uh,
it's gonna be great. This just comes out on Monday.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Now you're jinxing. This is not very supportive. You can't
do that. It's a game seven, dude, all right, can't
be doing this. And then and then this was a
regular season game, I'd maybe allow it. This is a
game seven. This is my life is on the line
right now. This is all I have until the football season.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
This is all uh, it's all I got is is Lebron?
Is Lebron done? Forever? Is he washed? Ant Man took
down Luca and Lebron.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
On Well, then lucas still going. Lucagarza, He's still he advanced, He's.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Fine, You're right, Luca Garza is still going.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I got a text from a buddy like this was.
It's like eleven pm on a Monday night, and it
was I wonder if I could get a word for word,
if I helped the message save it didn't shoot.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
It's just like unpracticed, don't save. What kind of phone
do you ad?

Speaker 2 (39:22):
It was on Snapchat? Oh okay, he just sent me
a messages. Is Luca Garza the best bench hype guy
around right now?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Got to be?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I was like, he knows his job, he knows what
he's got to do. But no, it was, and this
was where I love it. I think every ESPN analyst
picked the Lakers to advance and get by the timber
Wolves and it was for to one Wolves. And I'm
not even really a big timber Wolves guy. I love
an Anthony Edwards, loved Lucagarza, but I'm not sitting around

(39:54):
twiddling my thumbs and getting all giddy because the Wolves
want a series. But it was It's a little satisfying
to be see them just completely flip it on the
narrative on its head. It was fine.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I think Lebron is washed. It used to be a
big Lebron guy.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Well, here's the deal with Lebron. Is that the like
he's in the greatest of all time debate?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Right? Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
It's really only I know some people are like, well, actually,
Larry Bird, shut up, no one cares. Okay, it's definitely.
It's on mj or and this did you see that
like skip Bayless video by the way, where it's like
him versus twenty five other people.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
He does one of those freaking sitdowns where they like
run to the middle of that.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I can't stand those videos to begin with. One there,
Steven a one is the best one they've ever made.
And then some kid comes up He's like, I don't
think Lebron's the goat. I don't think Jordan's the goat hever,
He's like, I think Steph Curry is the go And
I'm like, get out of here, dude. And here's the
thing too, I think Curry is the greatest point guard
of all time too.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I would agree.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Do I think he's the greatest player of it? No?
I just don't you see probably top ten ever? Yeah? Sure,
but the difference between like four on two it's so big.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Then I'm like, you get this to like, no, we
don't need your creative takes, all right, we don't need
this right now.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
You're doing this because we're shooting a video right now.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
You just you just want to be different, all right,
And that's fine in a lot of other spaces, but
right now we're discussing some ball, all right. We can't
be having this all right. This is there's only one
person gets the debate at one time. You're wasting Skip
Bayless's time right now.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
What's the uh? Got those twenty those twenty with V
one videos that I see? I always I always get
the ones on my feet and I don't know why
because I'm the least political on earth. But it's always
like Ben Shapiro or what's the freaking uh, what's the
conservative guy that he goes to college campuses and like

(41:45):
there's crowds everywhere and like these these kill That's that's
Nick Saban.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
He's on the college. Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
It's not Matt Walsh, it's the other guy. Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Oh, I think Herbstreet did a thing with Trump one time.
That is that who it is?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Herbstreet did something with Trump?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I thought he did well, No, right, who knows. But
what I was saying with the Lebron, here's the thing
about him lately, he's in it's him and Jordan is
the debate in the conversation always with Lebron? Right, Yeah,
So your expectation for him a little bit is that
he has to be the best player right now. Yeah,
and he's forty years old. He's just not the best

(42:22):
player in the world right now. Sure, for a long
time he was right, and it's incredible that he's even
doing what he's doing right now at forty right, right,
that's how you have to put it in person, and
like realistic, he's probably like the tenth best player in
the NBA right now, but that's still at forty is incredible.
I would, Yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I don't know NBA like that, but that would. If
he was top ten right now, I'd be shocked.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
But he had another year this year. I mean, he
looked a little he looks a little weathered at times now,
like he's definitely not as good as he was five
years ago.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Because he's forty.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
But it's because he's forty years old. Like we've seen
for he's the easily the greatest four year old we've
ever seen.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
The NBA audio. Just just picture and this is no
this is no shot. If you're sitting at home listen
to this thing and you're forty, like it's no shot.
But picture the average forty year old that's sitting there
listening to this right now.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Picture the average twenty three year old, yeah yeah, forty
or under.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Picture somebody that's forty years old or younger.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Picture the average person that's not Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
It's just like he's such such an anomaly, and you're right,
like we're where everybody's having the debate right now and
it's fresh in their head like the current years. But
what you're comparing to is like, okay, but do you
remember Michael Jordan on the Wizards.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, I mean he had a short stint on the
on the I almost called them the Lizards. But on
the on the Wizards, then Lebron has even been on
the Lakers. But and this is the whole thing too,
is everyone's like, oh, and this is coming from a
Michael Jordan guy personally, even you a Lebron fan. But
it like there's nothing Lebron could do right now to like,

(44:06):
like on the court wise, like he could get he
could miss the playoffs the rest of his career. His
legacy is already cemented. Yeah, yeah, like he can't go
any lower than one b of all time. Correct, you
can't go any lower right now, Like he could lose okay,
and and eighty two season would be pretty remarkable, but
you could saying like you can lose out would be wild.

(44:28):
It would be a stain on his career maybe, But
like I'm saying, like you could have no more like
uh accolades, Yeah, yeah, no more crazy moments and his
his legacy cement already so and now it is some
people are glossing over the fact that he's two and
twelve in his last fourteen playoff games. Not great. Many
of those losses to the Denver Nuggets. People glossing over

(44:51):
people forget eight of those losses to the Denver Nuggets. People,
people are forgetting, But hey, it's hard to be hard
to be the Nuggets these days. But hopefully we'll get
it this weekend, Lebron. As long as Lebron keeps doing
funny stuff, I'll allow it.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, I agree. What was the tweet right before this podcast? Again,
this is recorded on Friday, so a little late for some,
but you just you tweeted. Still amazes me that Iowa
is the only state that investigates college athletes on gambling.
It's something else that's true.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Then I stand by that.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yes, glad, you're sticking to your guns.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, And twenty minutes later, Yes, I stand by that tweet.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
What was it about?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
There was just a and this is where I didn't
get a chance to read into it, but Iowa State
had like five staff members and it just said like
five staff members and football players, so a combination of
the of the few were bet over like one hundred
thousand dollars on Iowa sporting events.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
And this is recent. This is I sorry, this is
new and different than there.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I don't think it's different was the thing? So this
is just yeah, this is from on three an hour
ago five current slash former. I would say football staffers
placed more than sixty two hundred bets totaling over one
hundred thousand dollars unprofessional in college games including cyclone men's
and women's basketball. Which game you should be gambling on? Sports?
But I and even it's Iowa State, it's not my favorite.

(46:18):
I'm gonna be honest. Do I like, do I feel
bad for them? No? Do I think it's weird that
i was the only state that investigates the stuff. And
do I think how that there's a hundred percent chance
that there's other people gambling outside of just Iowa and
iowast eight?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
I bet on sports last night.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I mean your is your truth?

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yes? Or yes?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Is your football career over?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah? And I was actually the PFL Drake Drake's training
partner Sully Culli. Sullivan Culli was in the he knocks
some guy out in thirty seconds?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
That's insane? Did you see Drake? And has been posted
videos lot of stories. Drake is up there for my
pick of one Universe.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Gorilla Drake would be a great he looks like a monster.
Drake would be a great pick if you were gonna
try and find an individual too to take that on.
I mean as psychotic he sent us and maybe this
is TMI, but he sent us a like a shirtless
mirror pick and it just said quote, I was feeling jacked,

(47:25):
wanted to show the boys nothing off that, and he
was he's he's looking lean right now. Man, he's he's
he's I think he's two fifteen and like lean. I
mean he is on testosterone.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He's juiced up because naturally his testosterone was absolutely in
the toilet.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Well he's I mean he's six three too.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
He's oh he's not six y three, he's six one
and a half. Really, yeah, he just his presence is
six three, feels like a big dude. But he's one
of those guys where you're around him and you don't
really take notice, and then you go home and it's
like the first time you've ever been around Drake and
you're like, yeah, Drake is like six three six four,
and you're like, not really, but he's kind of scary,
like a six three six four guy. I looked back

(48:06):
at the Connor Colby pod. By the way, sure he
does look like drinks exactly like Drake my got he
like when he got drafted. I saw a picture of
him and I was like, yeah, holy shit, one baby.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I mean, I was thinking it the whole time. I
thought you were gonna bring it up. And then it
was like it was it would be weird if like
forty minutes and I was like, hey, dude, you look
like Drake Kolick.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
A little never crossed my mind once. I was like,
and then you said it afterwards, and I was like, yeah,
I guess. And then I've seen pictures of him like
two or three times since then. I'm like, holy shit,
that is Drake Kolik. Uh. So, for everybody who's there,
go over to the Connor Colby episode and just take
a look at that and give us some more view
numbies over there, Yeah, it's uh, Drake would be great

(48:47):
against the gorillas. I don't you know. He's doing his thing.
George got paid, by the way, he paid.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
A significant amount. He could build that a wrestling ring
that he wants in his backyard.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Well, I think I think the ww is in his future.
I agree, I would guess I think he probably could
have built the ring before this contract. He was on
like a fifteen point six a year contract before this,
the biggest contract at the time, I believe when he
when he signed that deal four years ago, and then
he just did it again. The Niners forked up money. Now,

(49:21):
I don't know the ins and outs of the financial
side of NFL. I know this that for a long
time there, outside of Patrick Mahomes, the best teams in
the in the NFL were all teams that had like
really good quarterbacks on their rookie deals. Sure because they
were not having to pay as much money to the quarterback,
which sucks a lot of your cap. Saw a lot

(49:45):
of comments like, wow, we're so happy Georgia got paid
all this stuff. Is this going to tank the Niners
because they're now paying him twenty million a year?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Like, no, I don't think, so, okay, that's good. They're
just money's going somewhere else. I mean, they've also like
the roster is going to look different this year. They
lost it. There's many of the key faces of the
Niners not there anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
So you're nineteen point one a year to beat out
the titand that I had never heard of that, got
that signed for like nineteen even I.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Thought it was I thought Hopkinson was the highest paid titand.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
No, no, just like a just like a month ago,
a different tight end he got.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
He got beat out already.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Oh yeah, George came through. It was and it's so
Trey McBride.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Oh you never heard of Trey McBride.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
No, who does he even play for the Bank Cardinals? Okay?
Is he that good?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I don't know. I think it just goes up every year.
Like I think if Kelsey wanted a new contract, he
would be the highest paid player.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
So as of I don't know how that works because
it says George now averages twenty two eight a year.
But I just searched tight end contracts and then this
is overthecap dot com. It's George Trey McBride and he
signed literally like I don't know, a month ago, Travis Kelcey.
Then TJ. TJ is at six point five sixteen point

(51:02):
five a year, which is so nice, it's so much,
And then was it ten to five a year? He's
in like tenth or eleventh.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think he'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
God, dude, think about Laporida.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
He keeps.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Laporta keeps balling.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
He's got contracts gonna be huge, He'll get some he'll
get financially rewarded, for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I have a tight ends just dominating we We are
quite literally one eighth.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Of the league. I'll take it. Well, the all the league,
well all the players four at a third, well, no,
just the tight just the tight ends. So I don't
know if that that math doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
George TJ Noah and and Sam Hey, watch out Eric,
watch out for Eric Halls. I was just gonna say,
Eric All's probably in there, in there too with a
with a contract. And now we got uh Doude. Luke
is gonna he's gonna turn heads. Luc Las is gonna
be underrated.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, I mean he's injuries killed all of his draft stock.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna build himself back up. He's
gonna he's gonna do well. This is a week and
further out even, you know, like eight days out from
when the draft ended. But a lot of that, I mean,
we never did a draft episode. This isn't a draft
episode obviously, but shout out to the boys couple staying
in the Black and Gold Caleb Johnson y a Black.
Sabasha Castro signed as a Uda. Shay got drafted. At

(52:26):
the end, Colby did the Niners. Towards the end, Mason Richmond.
We had Richmond there going out to Seattle. Mari Harris,
I mean, Luke Elkin is a Bear.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I had a first round grade on I thought that
was a big steal.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, you did have a first round grade. I didn't
third round for me. But uh, I mean, Doctrment said,
And I don't know how much Document knows or not,
but Doctrman thinks that the Bears will keep him as
their They'll keep him as their guy.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
All out.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Bears wanted him because he has that connection with Tory Taylor.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Makes sense.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
The Bears are about to be the Bears are about
to I'm now a Bears fan essential because the Bears
special teams are about to be two thirds Iowa Hawkeyes.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, you can be a Bears. I'll allow you to
support the Bears.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Okay, thank you all out.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Not that I I don't think you're gonna listen to
me regardless, but uh, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Towards the end of this, I did this is the
one thing I wanted to bring today's show very important.
So we've talked about how we want to get Rain
as a sponsor. I've started a list on my phone
personal list. Sure, I'm gonna. I've never been an energy
drink guy. Like the last energy drink I had before
I tasted Rain. Earlier this year, a CrossFit competition was

(53:39):
a red Bull in like two thousand and nine. Ok,
maybe a five hour Energy in two thousand and nine.
And then I saw that some kid died from drinking
four of them, and I was like, Okay, never touching
energy drinks again.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Well, yeah, four, it's kind of stupid, I'll be honest.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, So I think some kids died. I think some
kid in Iowa died from drinking four of them at once.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
And I do believe the guy who brought Red Bull
to the United States is also an Iowa.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
A gret that's incredible. The fire he drank five hour Energy.
The guy who died not red Bulls.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
But I've never had one of those.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I mean people have died from red Bulls too.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Did you have people when you were in were people
doing the nine Locos when you were in college?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Excuse me, it's like you do a nine Locos It's
like you.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Get a four loco, but you pour oh no, the
five hour energy into it.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Oh that's a death track. Who the fuck would do that?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
You've never seen?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
That is the most college dude thing you would ever do.
A nine loco, that grant, that would kill me, That
would kill me today.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I didn't. I didn't say were you doing them? I said,
did you ever see people do that?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Because the four loco formula had to get changed, didn't it?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yeah, four locos Like drinking a grenade, you literally explode
from the intact time adding five hour energy to it.
Like I'm not the I'm not the pinnacle of health,
but I can't exactly U even I could deuce just
looking at like the design of the can, Like there's
just no way that's.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Like, this is this is radios.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
This is taking off two months off your life every.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Time you have, every time you have one of those. Anyway,
the whole point of this was, I've started a rankings
list on my phone of energy drinks, all all brands,
but it'll also be by brand ranked flavors. And I
know the Ilani News are kind of the they're kind
of a girly drink female demographic there.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I think I follow. I think they're just more. There's
the sweetest one possible, very sweet.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
The cherry slush very good, but not as good as rain.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, it's just the cheery slush. I've had it. It's good.
It's just a little sweet for me.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
It's sweet. They're sweet. But I've started a list and
I'm currently still white. Gummy Bear Reign Supreme is very good,
big big on that flavor.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Cumbers fantastic. We got to get a We've to consult.
My other energy drink expert is Ben Willmas from the
Iowa baseball team. He's a big is he an expert? Yeah,
he's a big rain energy drink guy. If I remember,
will have to consult him. There's a couple of new
flavors since I last talked to him.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
So that what's that? The blue flavor?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
The white Yeah, there's one is like a white storm.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, need need to get need to get the lips
on that.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, I'm I'm assuming that's some like cherry white cherry flavor.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I need a suckle of that.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
New rain flavor is what I'm I want them to
and this is maybe just a rain advertisement. I kind
of want them to make caffeine free ones.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
So I could just oh, no, I want the caffeine,
Well I can.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You can't have more than one rain to day. I'm
gonna I'm gonna set it up right now.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
But what you're what you're saying is you'd like to
be able to drink two or three in a day.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
But yeah, like I want to be able to drink
it like it's a diet.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Coke, but n nine hundred milligrams of caffeine just won't
do it. It's not that's gonna be a problem. It's gonna
border it's gonna be an.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Issue right exp Like I don't know, and this is people,
It's it's a real issue. Like people don't understand how
much caffeine is and these things. Sometimes they'd be like, oh,
I'll just have six of these today.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Well, even two puts you at six if you're drinking rain.
Most of most of the energy energy drinks have like
two hundred, but rains have three, and so the big cans,
And so if you drink two rains, you're at six
hundred milligrams of caffeine. You are already floating on the
on the line of danger, especially if you.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Have like no tolerance for caffeine, you know, I mean yeah,
especially like sure I know this stuff, like, oh yeah,
I had a rain this morning and then I had
to two diet cokes with dinner, right, dude.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
The diet coke cult, the cult of people that love
diet coke, that is.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I'm their champion.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Oh no, dude, you you are not their champion. There
are people that are way more dedicated than you.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Don't hang out with don't. We don't hang out that often.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
You know it's seen me put in my work on
diet coke.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
You're right, I haven't breaking news, not really. Doctor Man
just tweeted an hour ago that men's basketball coat Ben
McCollum six year deal starting with three point three five
million in guarantees, climbing to four point one in year six.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
That's what I was talking about. News just extremely late.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
McCollum has a salary.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
You'll get news on his contract on Monday, was first
reported by Watchable walk.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Ons an hour after it came out on the previous Friday.
Annual buyout starts at five million and twenty twenty six
decreases a million dollars after that. Pay them all. I'll
pay him everything sure was speaking up a lot of
great response on our episode with Zach. Several people have
already mentioned, Wow, if you guys do any more basketball podcast,
it'd be great to have him on again. So I'm

(58:40):
gonna have to tell him that maybe he'll hear this.
He's good And and then another comment on the YouTube was,
let's not save the g bone questions for the end
because they're always the best, So kid, like, can we
just get those in the middle. So, Grant, you're being
requested to just become a a true second co host
here when it's just you and me, And I'm all

(59:00):
for it, but you're gonna have to You're gonna have
to step into that. We can we can talk that
off Grant Grant for those listening, the Grant is very
highly against that. And I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I'm not highly against. I just I'm hiding against what's
game plan. How we do interviews while recording an actual
episode is what I'm dude. Don't you don't understand People
love the inside baseball. They love to hear this stuff
that the brainstorming, the inner workings. The Rockies.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
By the way, we're back all two game win streak,
I'm going to the Rockies or dog shit, I'm going
to try and support you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
You should, can we know? I know you want to
wrap up the episode. There's something crucial, oh okay that
we still talk about. Okay, and I don't know if
you have like ten fifty more minutes to discuss this.
But not really, but so you just you just hate
the listeners.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
No, but I actually I kind of need to go.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
We started early.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I know we did, but what were you going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
We started on top.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I was gonna maybe cut us off early.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Okay, I'm gonna If Bill Belichick is in trouble, oh okay,
here we go. I just want him to blink twice blink.
He needs to blink into Morse code into the camera,
and I'll I'll fly to North Carolina myself and Sama,
I will, I will help him. You just gotta give

(01:00:24):
us a signal. Let me tell you if you're just
having a great life like they do seventy two or
twenty four year old girlfriend, you're just enjoying it. Fine,
I won't say anything. If she's like now, like the
puppet master of potentially the greatest coach of all times life,
just give us the Morse Code. This will be done
by July. This will be all forgotten about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
All right, let me tell you this right now, whether
he knows it or not, he is in trouble. He's
in trouble. He is in danger.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Now I'm a little upset she apparently acts hard Knox
with North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Dude, he needs to run and it's almost it should
be the NC.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
It can't mandate it like the NFL car It should
be mandated that they have to have cameras in there
all the time and everyone gets to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
What is a dude? Is it wrong that my opinion
of Belichick is waning? It is deteriorating as a day
goes by right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Because I mean, he's not breaking the law. Oh I
don't care that he's not breaking his coaches that have
done far worse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
He's just becoming a much more odd duck in my opinion.
And I'm starting to question was it just Tom Brady?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Unlikely? I think they're both equally.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Was it mostly Tom Brady and Randy Moss?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I mean, Randy Moss was there for a very short
period of time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
He was, but there's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Eighteen other years of success outside of Randy Moss.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Mustn't even won.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
A Super Bowl with people I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I just super Bowl Lis, I just use Okay, by
the way, we never got an update on him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah he was he had like cancer or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah he he he had cancer, and he stepped away.
Obviously understood, but I would. I haven't got an update
on Ready Mos Squad. Just hope he's okay. Oh yeah,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Is that too much to ask for?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I just hope you But you have used up all
your favorites. I'm gonna text Randy and I'm gonna watch
at least part of I will watch one period of
the Avalanche game and I will watch one quarter of
the Nuggets game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
At the same time. Well, maybe do you YouTube TV still?
Are you gonna go quad Box?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I have Hulu? Uh No, but I have a phone
that I could just double screen it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Okay, you can cust it my years of complaints.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
I know they finally did it. They finally did it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Now I can watch college football and Seinfelden uh like
MythBusters at the same time. It's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Do you know, like half the people on Mythbuster's cast
are dead?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
What happened to him?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I love how on three did their thing where they're
like sixty two hundred dollars wager they just like they
put the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
One Speaking of which on three. Yeah, they bought Rivals.
This sweep that the way laid off a bunch of
people because they bought Rivals. Right, you can't just post
a normal graphic. Now that you're talking about yourself, you know,
I need something. One of those ridiculous cornball graphics you've
been thrown out should have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
We'll see then, pease.

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