Jeremiah Sirles Previews Black Friday Vs The Huskers | WUW 558 - Washed Up Walkons

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pretty self explanatory.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's the tradition every Black Friday, and I guess this
ends this year.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Sad.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
We'll play Nebraska in the future too, though. We'll bring
this guy on every single time we do. It's Jeremiah Searles.
He's great content, great times every time he comes on.
Even though he's got the Husker background, He's a good guy,
provides a great podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
You guys are gonna love it. As always.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Let's have a day, let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hey, We're back Black Friday, Thanksgiving week tradition. The Jeremiah
Searles every Hawkey's favorite Husker.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
He's a T shirt with that on.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Good to be back. I would wear that.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I would wear that every Hawkey's favorite, every Hawk.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Guy's favorite Husker. I would one hundred wear that.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Is there a Is there somebody that's actually given you
any competition? I mean not to say that our audience
in our reaches is fully program wide for on either side,
but UH, find me another Husker that that Iowa fans
would like more.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I don't know who that would be. I don't Scott
Scott frostmanck.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, maybe I think Scott would maybe go be up
there it was great to us. Yeah, he was really
good to you guys. Maybe a lot of people, to
be honest, Yeah, I mean probably anyone on the Husker
defense from the years of like twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty one, somewhere in there, like a couple of those guys,
you know, a couple of the safeties that didn't want
to tackle all those fun things. Let Smith Marsett run reverses.

(01:52):
Those guys are probably pretty pretty fun Huskers.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's so confusing because like, you guys always had, like
even in the bad years, you guys had good talent.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, and that was that was always part of the issue. Right,
We'd recruit, well, we'd have good talent, there'd be there'd be,
all the pieces would be there, and then it'd just
be dysfunction. And I'm not even gonna say, like we're
out of that yet. Right. We went on a big skit.
We went on a big skid here in the middle
ear and now we're going bowling and it's almost like, oh,
all it's forgiven. It's like, no, we can't. We can't

(02:23):
forget the middle part of the season. It wasn't good
like we're gonna we're gonna get there. It was It
wasn't great, but no, it's good to be back. I mean,
I text you guys last week. I was like, what,
no invite to the pod? Yeah? Yeah, this is tradition,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
For this, for the listeners out there who I who,
like everybody else like us included, assume that this was
probably gonna be the case.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Searles hit me up before I even had a chance.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
He goes, what no invite? I was like, dude, chill, chill, listen.
I'm a big calendar guy. Now, I got three kids,
I got shit going on. If it's not on the calendar,
it doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
It doesn't happen. Right. If it's not, If I can't
pull up my calendar and go, oh this is up
for this week, it usually doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
So are you and you and your wife sharing a calendar?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh yeah, oh you we get we're color codinated. Like right,
I'm sage, sheees banana, both kids as tangerine, full family
as flamingo. Right, my work my work stuff is blue,
and oh yeah, her work stuff is a different like
we have the full my calendar gives. If I showed
you my calendar, you just have anxiety, Like it's just

(03:27):
color coordinated out the ass all the way full and
oh yeah, but it's how we GE's the only way
we can find a way to like manage our lives.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Dude, you're dialed in.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
You have to be. As I get older, I'm like
I used to make fun of calendar people, but now
that I'm in my early thirties, I'm like totally about it.
All about the calendar.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I use it for my work like more like not
on a macro level, but like here's what I have
for the week, or here's what I have for the month.
It's helpful with like training clients too, like when when
do they need new training? When do they need certain
nutrition things? But my wife and I aren't to the
level where it's necessary yet. She keeps a cat, We
keep one like on the fridge. Coming in general.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
But wait, wait, way do you start adding kid activities? Yeah,
that's where that's where I mean. It's like Oliver has
basketball practice tonight from eight to nine, right, Oh my goodness,
Emma's taking him to Aylen has gymnastics on Wednesdays. Graham
has swim on Mondays. Right, Like, so once the kids
stuff starts, getting thrown in there and you got to
schedule around the kid stuff. That's when it starts going

(04:29):
off the rails.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
How much do you love it that you're in the
thick of.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Just it's great. I mean it's it's so funny, like
my mom will call me or like I was talking
to one of my clients dads the other day. He
gave me a call after one of the games on Saturday,
and we're Sunday and we were just chit chatting and
like it was just chaos in the house, like kids
are running and he's and and it doesn't phase me right,
Like it's just white noise, that's your life. Yeah, And

(04:53):
he's like, man, it sounds like sounds like you got
a lot going on over there. I was like, no,
it's just just a Sunday afternoon, just kind of how
things go right. And even my mom will like bo,
She'll call my mom and till she's like, it sounds
busy over there. I'm like, yeah, I've got three children
under five, I'm running a new company, I've got a
podcast that I'm launching. Emma's working like it's hunting season. Yeah,

(05:14):
it's it's a busy time of year.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's hun I love that one.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's hunting season, dude, if I my count And speaking
of the calendar, all of last week was just rifle
season through the entire thing just blocked out, blocked out.
How do you demo that was stage? Because it's my color?

Speaker 6 (05:29):
So okay, it's nice cles color.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
How do you how do you swing that one with
the wife? Like, hey, this week, I know.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I took her. I took her. So the way I
swung it this year was I was like, hey, I
want to take you out one night. I want to
take all of her out one night. I want to
take Aileen out one night, right, and then I'm gonna
go a couple of times by myself. Right, So there's
ways to mix it in there, Like Thanksgiving, I want
to go out and duck hunt Thanksgiving morning. So I'm like, hey,
what if I take the older two? Like, if I

(05:57):
take the older two, can I go out and like
take him out of the house. You can start prepping.
And she's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, because now you're presenting it at you know, yeah,
benefit to her.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's a benefit to her, right. And I actually, so
I shot a dough this year on Wednesday. I didn't
get a buck this year. But it was when she
came with me the wife, and so we're sitting in
the blind and she's like, you're not very good at this.
I was like, I was like, I just have to
wait for the deer to come, like I can't like
call the deer. And so we're sitting there. It's right
like five oh five, so like last thirty minutes. It

(06:25):
was when anything happens anyways, and she's like, look, and
I turn around, the two deer run across the field
and two does. So I get the gun all turned
around and I'm over there looking and I don't see him,
and I'm like, gosh, damn it. And then I turned
back to where I was looking. There's a dough just
walking like thirty yards away. So I'm like, oh, this
is happening. And so I turned around with the gun
and she's like, old on, let me put my earphones on.
I was like, you have two seconds, and then I

(06:46):
was like so I did the like and it turned
and I was like, oh, she's dead. And she ran
like twenty yards and died, and she was like, oh no,
I'm kind of sad. I was like, well, wait until
we go over there and the insides have to come outside, right,
And she's like, oh, so I made her like I
was like, come here and hold it. She's like it's bloody.
I was like, I need you to hold the legs.
So she's holding the legs as I'm cleaning the deer.

(07:08):
But she's been great, and she she wanted to make
the move of processing all our own meat. So and
like I bring it home, hang it in the garage,
skin it, cool it, and then we cut it up,
debone it, and process, grind the whole thing and do
it all at the house. So that's been really cool. Wow,
she wanted to dude, saves money like I. Also, I

(07:28):
don't trust meat lockers like I don't the.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
More the older we get, I don't know if I
trust anybody that's right any of our food.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I completely agree right like when I drop because I'm meticulous.
If I take care of my deer, like I get
it cooled immediately, like I make sure all the guts
are out, everything's hung dry, like and so if I
take seventy pounds of deer meat to the locker, and
I'm like, hey, I want sticks, or I want jerky,
or I want some roast or whatever it is, and
I don't get it back till like March. Because that's

(07:59):
that's why when I shot my first I was like,
how do I know this isn't some dicks deer that
shot it, didn't skin it, left on the back of
his truck for two days, and then brought it in.
It was like, hey, I want some meat sticks. I
don't want that. I don't trust that, so I'll do
it myself.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, did your wife grow up around honey?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh gosh, No, she's a California girl.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And she to be fair like, she didn't understand what
I said when I was like, no, I hunt a
lot until I was done with football, okay, right, Like,
because it was football season. All she knew was football season,
right she? All she knew was the months of August
through December was and you were busy. I was busy.
And so as soon as I was done with football

(08:41):
and the term of like it's September, I'm now going
to go a week long el cut in Colorado deer
seasons all of November, duck season's most of December. You'll
get the hang of it. And she has, she's gotten,
she's gotten on board a little bit more because it's
like my one outlet. But she's always like, you need
you have a lot of hobbies. Le looking on that
many hobbies, She's like, golf, you hunt, like that takes

(09:03):
up a lot of time. Yeah, it's fair.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm gonna start using you. I'm gonna start using you
as my It's not that bad.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Do you ever seen that? You ever seen that?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
That?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Uh, it's like a I don't know what you would
call it, but it's I saw a tweets one day
that was like, you just need one friend in your
friend group. That's worse than you.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I have one too, my buddy Sam, totally worse than I.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Now you can tell your wife, well, at least I'm
not this guy.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I'm not Sam right. Like Sam's on a four day
golf trip right now, I'm not Sam right.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So I'm gonna so now you're gonna be my Well,
you know, Cearl's right. He goes for a week and.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
He's got like three kids. He leaves her home with three.
Doesn't even like leave that.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
He doesn't even love his children.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
He loves kids. Who's out there hunting.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Because for me, it's the working out thing.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh, she's like, you know, it's like Saturday and that's
when you got out of time on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, right, So I'm like, well I need, I need.
I got two to three hours.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Of training today because I'm because I'm a non professional
CrossFit athlete that thinks he's good for sure.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
So it was like an hour on the pell ton.
We got lifting, we got some net.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And when are you going to ride the peloton with me?
All right? It with you?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I wrote it today.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
What's your what's your normal output on a like a
thirty minute class?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Nothing like yours? Probably? Oh oh, and I don't. So
that's the weird thing about me.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
So I have done classes, and ninety nine percent of
people who get on the peloton do classes. My wife
does classes when she's on it. I strictly ride it
for long, low steady state and I don't do classes.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh it's no fun.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's it's way more boring. But I'll throw a podcast
in at least. And I just like, if you go
to what's it called Experiences just and you just hit
the ride, just ride.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Don't you write the fake trail they give you.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
On the trail.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I've ridden through the wine, the wineries of Italy. I
was in beautiful.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Where was I?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I was in somewhere in Italy one time I followed
that ride. Those are cool.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
No, yeah, I just I have this thing about efficiency,
sirles where if I'm on the if I'm on the
bike for an hour, that is an opportunity for me
to listen to multiple podcasts at two x speed and
listen to two hours worth of podcasting. Whereas if I'm
doing a class, I don't. I don't really need I'm
not getting anything out of that.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh dude. The leaderboard is what I do it for.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
The leaderboard is grinding.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Dude, I'm all about like that was That is my
competitive outlook, and it's like one and my wife does
not understand how I can make myself vomit off a
thirty minute peloton. Oh yeah, but I mean I will.
I will push myself to be in like the top
two point fifty of the class every time, to the

(11:37):
point of like I'm in the backyard on hands and knees,
bike shoes still on.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh dude, I just I can't help myself. I love
the leader.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
And you probably you probably frequent the top of that
thing too, because what I've learned as I've gotten more
into like the bike riding for the sort of the
Zone two training is uh big, big guys just can
put out on that thing like Ike. Ike will put
He'll put up some of his Zone two rides and
like the the average wattage that he has, and I'm
just like, I can't stand a chance when he has

(12:08):
tree trunks coming down on those petals.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I mean when I was in my peak peloton form,
and I used to ride with like Danny Woodhead, Eric Wood,
a bunch of like the former NFL guys, uh Cole,
uh Cole Kublick, like the ESPN crew, Jeff Schwartz, and
we used to get on. We had we had our oscar.
We had a bunch of buns of anarchy was our klan. Right.
I was deep, dude, I was deep into the peloton.

(12:31):
But when I first retired, and I can remember, I
used to get like six hundred plus output on a
thirty minute class like regularly, like regularly, and my top one,
my top one being seven hundred and forty one on
a thirty minute class, and I me and the guy
were competing the whole class and ended up tying and
I was so pissed, like so pissed.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, yeah, like I'll do I'll do like sixty minutes
of zone two and it comes out at like six
forty Yeah yeah, so I think I think, yeah, that's
my best.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Forty five was like nine eighty nine. Like I wanted
to get a thousand one time. I think they've made
it harder though, because I can't I can't even scratch
those numbers.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Well, and like bike to bike, I don't know if
you've ever gone on a done it on a peloton
that isn't yours, but like we went down to Tighten
You two summers ago and the hotel that we were
at had a peloton and I hopped on and I
was like, huh, my numbers are better on this. So
like the calibration of the probably machine to machines a
little bit different, but yeah, it's a fun time. By

(13:31):
the way, for those that aren't listening, you haven't heard
Kevin's voice yet. He's going to join here in a second.
He just it's Kevin. You guys have come to expect
just he might not show up.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
He might travels.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, I mean he'll just call sus.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Him who knows he's the one, by the way, who said, uh,
to tuesdays ideal for me. By the way, I was like, okay, Tuesday,
this is an hour later than we normally go. What
could you possibly be doing on the night that you said.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Hey, I was five minutes early. If you're not five,
if you're not five minutes early, you're late.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
And that is the way we used to operate.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
No better. He it's coached allowed. Coach are allowed. My man,
isn't that.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Like Coughlin time or whatever? It wasn't that a thing
as well?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I don't. Yeah, I think that's just any successful football
coaches program time.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
When Frost was around, they showed up right.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, they just kind of hung out the meeting started.
I'm one of my favorite things to do to people
because I'm a big like, I'm a big on time guy, like,
we're not I tell my wife and she's a great
we're not late people like, because I think being late
is one of the most disrespectful things you can do
to another person because you're taking their time. Like if
I have a meeting that I need to be at

(14:39):
at eight o'clock and I don't show up till eight ten,
I can't expect that person if there's now a long
meeting to go till nine ten, because they might have
something at night, right, And so I don't know. It
just drives me nuts. And some of my friends are
notoriously late people.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
There are there are some casual social situations where being
like fashionably late is sort of works better, Like if
it's a a party or a get together and you're like,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I don't know, I'm gonna be there eight you said
started at eight seven fifty five. Let me I understand.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
The last one to leave right before, right before we
hit the record button, you said podcast was taken off.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Are we talking about old Line Committee stuff?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
We are, Yeah, dude, the Old Line Committee. So we
started this thing about I don't know, eighteen nineteen months
ago and just from scratch, like no idea what it
was going to be, just like, hey, you think anyone
would like this? Maybe? I don't know. And we're knocking
on the door of thirty thousand subs here coming in.
I think we'll, I think we'll. I think there's a
really good chance by the Super Bowl we'll hit thirty

(15:35):
thousand subs, which would be awesome. And starting to roll
around with that. Yeah, twenty So we've get work. We're
on average between like four and five hundred subs a
week right now, wow, which is pretty fun, and we
just do really silly things and talk. We found that
we have a very large Lions audience. Oh and so
whenever we hit Lions, whenever we hit Lions Window or

(15:55):
Lion's pieces, like right there, thirty seven thousand views, like
a couple of cases. Couple. So we've had a couple
of viral ones that have.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Gone guys, I've seen obviously when you mentioned it. The
first time I shoot it a year and a half ago,
I was on there and you can tell like whoever's
doing the the the thumbnails and the titles, like it's
a game that you have to play with.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
The alhole and he runs a huge media company up
in Minnesota called Score North and he's the number one
like Minnesota podcast up there, and so that's how I
ran into him. But yeah, it's been a ton of fun.
The film Breakdowns is super fun. Getting the Taco line stuff.
So yeah, if you're starved for O line content, go
check out the Oline Committee.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
We so badly want to basically do what you guys do.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
With college films. Tough.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's impossible, It's tough. We we tried this this summer.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
We had two of the coaches on two of our best,
our most connected coaches that we still talk to as
far as me and Kevin and Drake, and we were like, hey,
we need the all twenty two.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
We need it.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You got to give it to us. And he was
and he was, he kind of danced around. He's like, well,
how many plays you need? I was like, we did.
We give us two plays?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Give us the game, man, give us just two plays
a game and we'd take we'd take that, which we
can make a video out of that. And uh.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Then it got to be end of the season and
we I'm not going to bother them for it because
it's just not that important.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
But it's great for the off season because that's where
that's where the content is, right when you're just trying
to make shit stick and you're like, well, maybe we
can do this game or that game or whatever it is,
and you just be like, hey, let's pull something up, right.
Who knows what we got here, so keep at it
because it definitely we would not be anywhere where we

(17:34):
would be if we didn't have the film.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Breakdowns, and you guys are primarily a YouTube show.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, like we're all YouTube.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Do you get like, do you guys even post to
a we do? We post a Spotify Apple, We do
all that.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
And that's where we need more numbers to come up
there because, as you guys know, that's where the ad
revenue is, right. So the more the more AD revenue
you can get. It's based off that thing. Let me
see if I can do something here.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I mean, you guys, there's I don't know exactly how
it would work, but you could still add it. You
could still get a lot of that AD revenue and
sell sponsors to your YouTube show too.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well. So we actually had a shit We had a
sports betting company that wanted to like throw like a
twenty grand sponsor at us. But with me being in
my profession that I'm in, probably not the best thing
to do.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
We're looking for a sponsor.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
All right, They were like, yeah, you can promote sports betting.
I was like, in my NFL agent regulations, if I
get caught sports betting, some bad things could happen, right, So,
but you know, think that's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You should be able to throw so much money down
on your guys.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Where did you know we what we always could to though? Boys?
You know what we always we can always look at
some Iowa film. I mean we could always pull some
Iowa film up. This is how I have to watch
film with my clients now right, and you just talk
through you just get a separate camera. You know, we
want to watch it. Hey, now watch some of the
boys here?

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Where did we acquire this from?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
You have?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
I have?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
So just a quick sneak peek for you boys here
I have a wonderful, wonderful thing here where I have
access to every single.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Doesn't that look familiar, keV?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Every Yeah? This you should you should know what this is.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
Now that looks exactly what I mean?

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Do you want to watch some UC Davis film?

Speaker 7 (19:22):
So, so you have access to.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Little Nebraska film?

Speaker 7 (19:28):
Do you have access to everything that's on Nebraska servers?
You have access to.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's not through Nebraska, actually really it's not. No, it's
through a guy, a friend of a friend type of
thing that I pay a ridiculous amount of money for
for your agents for the agency.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I see, so like you guys, So all we have
to do, keV is become an NFL agent.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
We can get college film. It seems worth it.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
You could.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
You just got to pass a test, right. You don't
have to actually sign any clients.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
You have to sign a client to a ninety man
roster once every three years. You'll get your agent regulations.
You have to do three years. You got three years.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
We can figure that out, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I mean it just a ninety man, right, It doesn't
have to be the active roster. I think it should
be active roster personally, right, it would cut it would
It would limit the bullshit that I have to deal
with on a daily basis. But you know, yeah, only
every three years getting an undrafted free agent on a
ninety minue roster reset the clock.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Meanwhile, we're just making videos of Iowa film and that's
why we're doing it. Uh No, that was It's it's
been a long time since I've looked at a look
at a film like that.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Dude. It's it's addicting. It's addicting to get back and
like immediately you're like, man, I need to put a
dip in. I gotta put some music in. Like you
just feel like you just get back into the meeting
room ground, like who's got the seeds? Right? I'm trying
to find a like one of the clickers, like I
want to find one of the old Cowboys cowboy remotes.
Oh yeah, and just put it like cast it to
the TV and just sit there like, I mean, you

(20:58):
may never see me again.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
There's nothing better. It's it's insane the amount of time
you can spend on one play.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Your wife would really hate you then, Oh dang.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, I mean the when we do that at the
Olion committee, we pick like four plays and we spend
twenty minutes on it. There's so much to talk about it,
and you look at it and people people love it
that never played football before or like never have understood
why you watch in all twenty two and you start
explaining like, no, I'm watching the safety topped over number
two because I know that means the d lineman's gonna
slant this way and that linebacker is going to push.

(21:27):
And they're just like, oh, I thought you just big
dumb football player, right, Like all that stuff is so
ought there, just.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
Like the plays on Madden where the guy couldn't leave
his zone. He's stuck there.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Like we explained to someone the other day, like what
the check with me system is like how there's three
different like because they were like, why why did quarterbacks
come up to the line and say, like hey can
can or alert alert or zoro zoro or whatever it is.
It's like cause there's three different plays that are called. Right,
there's the first play with an alert to it to
go to the three technique whatever, and then if you
get single higher two either there's a kill that goes

(21:58):
to a completely different play that might have a check
to it. It's just so much fun. The chess match
that is football is so much fun to get into
on a play in a playout basis.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's funny you mentioned the seeds or the dipcan early
in our career. Our new facility was built during Kevin
and I's time, and so there was still an older
building in use when we came in in thirteen in
the first half of fourteen, and the specialists didn't have
a meeting room in the old buildings. So what they

(22:26):
would do is they would go into the special teams
coach's office, who also at that time did not have
special teams as his only gig. He was the running
backs coach and then did special teams. So what we
would do is we would steal the chairs everybody else
was in meetings, in the actual meeting rooms, we'd steal
the chairs from every coach's office, you know, we'd linebackers, coach,

(22:48):
offensive line, everybody go get a chair, You wheel them
to the running backs room. You cram your asses in there.
One guy is back behind the computer. These offices were
not as big as they were in the new complex.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Eventually, and you just run through everybody. It was a
it was a shit show.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
But I specifically remember our kicker at the time, Mike Meyer,
Casey Krider, who's still in the league. They you know,
you'd get the dip can would come out of the
sunflower seeds would come out, and you'd be like, all right, boy,
settle in.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, there's nothing more natural.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Man. Maybe you can answer this, what the fuck's going
on with the kickers in the NFL this year? Why
are they such fragile human beings? Why? Why are the
kickers the most fragile human beings on the team. Uh, well,
I mean that's I think that's a pretty easy that's
a bold statement, I know. But at the same time,
like it, don't miss a kick, dude, you're picking in

(23:39):
the NFL, especially like the Washing Commanders game, How are
you going to go down there? Let Terry McLaurin score,
And they dropped ten and then botch the extra point.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I've seen a lot of long snapping that's been suspect.
I've seen a lot of holding that's been suspect. People
really don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
People watch NFL.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
People watch NFL games, not not even useerls, but the
common man will watch an NFL game and just be
like they don't even think about.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
The operation on a pat or a field goal. They
just assume that it's good.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I've seen some stuff and this has been since
we came out, and I never got a look.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
And in the beginning it was just spite because of twitterness. Yeah,
it was like, I'm I'm better than this guy. I'm
better than this guy. But now it's just like pure
objective fact.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I just watched things and I'm like, that's not good
like to be You're supposed to be one of the
thirty two best in the world at this and you
just rolled it back there.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
What's going like?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Then?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
The kicker thing is I can't speak directly to it.
There has been some wild miskicks this year. The only
thing I can say is you're usually gonna find some
of the most heady, overthinking, nerdy guys at the special
team's position.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
It is so much a mental position. Every guy in
the NFL has the physical capability to do whatever, you know,
kick a field goal sixty yards and then snap a
football the way he needs to after that, it's just
how do you mentally lock in and make this as
consistent as you can possibly be? And like, I don't,

(25:08):
for lack of a better way to describe.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
It, you got golfers playing football, is what are you
saying exactly?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
And guys are just they just they just fucking suck.
I mean, there's no other way to put it.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
It's brutal. Dude. I can't handle it. I mean I
I love, I love kickers. I also can't stand them.
Like nothing was worse than you go on like an
eighteen play ninety yard grind fest, right, and you get
down there and you score the touchdown, You're like, oh god, yes.
Then you line up for the extra point and he
pushes it wide left or something, and.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
You look, you're still playing when they moved the extra
point back? How long it was?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
That? Yeah, I was that was twenty fifteen, sixteen, twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Sounds about right.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean you'll like you stand up
in the kicker hits you with one of these like,
oh my bad, yeah, excuse you, Like I just grinded
my balls off for eighteen plays and you come in
here and it's your bad. Like I'll stab you, little man.
You look like you should be delivering food.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
And I will say, in the specialist defense, like it
is hard, Like what they do is hard.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
People think kicks.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's not easy, I trust me. But if you're paid
a million dollars to make a kick, make.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
The kick, you got to make him at some sort
of frequency.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I don't have any better answer for you.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I do.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Are you fan of the Pat McAfee's segment on college
It's fantastic. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Dude. That one guy that like towards ACL warming up hysterical.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh that video was brutal.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
In in fact, they're just doing some warm up kicks. It
just absolutely just rips his ACL.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
He's always like, have you ever bad mouthed a kicker?
And he's like, oh yeah, I talked about him all
the time.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Stuff.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
I just love the guy misses one. Pat offers double
the money. So he's like this this kid who's like
probably not got like eighty dollars in his bank account
for the first here that night, exactly right and pass
offering the opportunity to kick for a two hundred thousand
dollars kid shanks it and pets immediately in his face,

(27:06):
like this kid is devastated, but you are terrible.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh good mess was like this guy sucks, Like they'll
just walk away. McAfee, in my opinion, has saved game day,
Like I really, I think before McAfee came on, people
were migrating more over to the big new kickoff, like
and I feel like he is kind of re revamped
and brought a new audience and like kind of revitalized,

(27:30):
you know. I think that he does. He brings such
a fun energy to game day now compared to just
what you got used to with rees. I mean, Desmond
Hower can go. I'm done with him.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
I'm also I'm also done with Desmond.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I'm done with him. He's not good. He doesn't he
doesn't bring values. Saban has been great.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Saban's great, Reese, Saban, Herbstreet and pat Are and it's
sort of weird because obviously Corso is they're just hanging on.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Oh he needs to get the Biden treatment soon, like
just put on.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
I mean they will bring him out for like every
other week ends like fifteen to twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, I know. And he's Kirk like taps his hand
every now and then two like, hey, we're still here
with you.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
He's gonna he's gonna phase out eventually, but I would
agree you. You know, you look at some of the
commentary online and there's always going to.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Be the I hate McAfee. I just can't deal with him.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
But then I think, I think the bigger contingent is
kind of where you are and where I am, and
that is he brings an energy that's hard to match,
and it makes it fun and sometimes it's cheesy.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's it's shicky sticky, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
But dude, when he's saying the the entire Georgia song
last year at the SEC Championship and then hit him
with a role tide and then he goes give me Bama, unbelievable, the.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Best setup of all time. He really has a I
think he's I think he's good on there. Yeah, he's
he's elite. You know, that's a special special teamers dream
right there, he's he's top of the mountain.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
Well, he's made like what fifty times more money post
NFL than he did in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
He's also like he I mean, he's kind of like
the he's like the version of Joe Rogan of our generation, right,
the renaissance man. Right, he's doing everything right, Joe was
on Fear Factor, and then he's the podcast and then
he's UFC like Pats everywhere. Right, it's wrestling, it's game Day,
it's podcasting, it's it's a little bit of everything.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
He's just eleven o'clock ESPN every day now every day.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's wild. And I love how he just brought his
college friends with him, like like just jump jump on
the coattails. Boys, We're going it's the dream.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
This year, we got one of our one of our
shirts on the Pat mcfish.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I saw that. I did see that. That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
The Iowa guy, I sent him sent him a DM
after we dropped our Kirk's Dogs T shirts and I
was like, hey, we got a shirt coming out. It's
a collab with Kittle and he's a big kittle guy obviously,
and we're like, we'd love for you to have one.
Didn't ask him to wear it on the show or anything.
And then a couple of weeks later they we're in
West Virginia, you know, preview in that first game against
Penn State or whatever, and he's like, hey, shirt's going
on the show tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I was like, oh, hell yeah from six to midnight. Yeah,
helped us sell a couple. Welcome to the show, keV.
We're glad to have you here.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
Good to be here. Sorry about that, boys, No, you're okay.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Replacing your own ankle or hip or something. I'm sure
if I could, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Make a lot of money on that.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Nebraska, let's do it. We talked earlier this year. We
had you on as a little big ten preview. We
went through some schedules, mostly the eye when the Huskers schedule,
we pontificated, tried to play out those schedules in our head.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Hey, worst case scenario, best case scenario. I think we
landed somewhere.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I'm still on track with the seven wins.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, and Cyles and I should have pulled the clips
and if I was a better podcaster, that's what this
would sound and look like, but you were somewhere around
a little bit more of a down to earth Husker
fan or or uh a real a realist, you know,
some of these some of these people out there had
you guys.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think we can undefeated. It's possible here. Yeah, we
can do right there, run the table. If Rayola is
good enough, I think we can go twelve and zero,
eleven and one easy, ten and ten win floor.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean we went through with you guys, and we
were staring at ten wins, right, ten wins in the
face was what I believe we finished with you guys.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
Yeah, that was the most likely scenario in our heads.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, that was Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And to be honest, you know, if if Friday goes
our way, eight is it's just two games, right, but
it's it's two games. And those two games for us
were two bad games Michigan State and UCLA. We just
there's no it's the conference record that's alarming for you guys. Yeah, right,
five and if you go if you if you go

(31:57):
the other way, it goes if it goes my way
on frid and you guys had conference five and four,
that's not a good year for you.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Bad right, that's a bad year for you guys. Right,
we finished on Saturday, and it flips our way and
we end up going in the Conference six and well,
we would end up going four and five. That's a
win for us compared to what it's been in the
last few years.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, And it goes back to what I said when
we had that conversation back in August. I thought that, hey,
you know, year one, you want a couple more games,
and would you win five five?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Year two, let's just get to that next step, go
to a bowl game, go bowling, right, And then for
a while there y'all were like, oh, six is not enough,
you know, and now here we are.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
I mean, it's just hard when you start five and one. Yeah,
and then you're having the conversation towards the end of November,
of maybe we aren't going to a bowl game. Right,
That's that's just a tough place to be as a
fan base when you're starving for one and is as
much as people and you guys know, as players, people like, oh,

(33:03):
we don't think of it as getting Bowl eligible. It's
just go want to know this week, Like, dude, that's
a monkey on a back, Yeah, right, Ape into a
bowl game in eight years, like Matt Rule's jobs gets
to a bowl game, and all these seniors came back
because we wanted to go to a bowl game and
just have that sitting there. Like, I thoroughly expect the
Huskers to come out and play more free against you

(33:24):
guys than they have in the last month, right, because
they've got that monkey off their back of Hey, I
don't care if it's the Idaho Potato Bowl, I don't
care if it's the whatever. We're going bowling for the
first time and ever like that's no longer in the conversation,
I'm excited to see it.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
You think advantage Huskers because they have the monkey off
the back, because I do.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I thought potentially you don't want.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
As the Hawks to go into that game knowing the
Huskers are they've got this. You know, say they lose
last week, they're five and six, and now their last
game of the year in Iowa City is to make
the bull game.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
See, I think it's the other way around, right, because
I felt like for the last month, right, since we've
been five and one, we've played really tight, right, really tight,
and you get to those end of the game moments
that we've had, and things start to get high pressure
situation and even just a little bit more of a
pressure of like, let's just win this and go to
a bowl game, right, let's just win and get to
a bowl game. Like things get tight, things get sticky,

(34:21):
and we kind of fall versus Now it's like, boys,
we got the ball game, right, let's just go beat Iowa.
Nothing but nothing to lose here, Like they're not having
the greatest year. Let's get to seven wins for the
first time since twenty fifteen, Like, we have a lot
to play for. And I love our new offensive coordinator
and it makes me wonder, Hey, if we didn't have

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sadderfield for an entire year, what could we have been
because our offense was abysmal? Dude from the word go,
I've never loved our offense this year. And Dan Holgerson
comes in and doesn't even know players' names, You just
called them by numbers, Like it's incredible. I love it.
I love it so much.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
One of the more interesting moves in all of college
football probably is you're over halfway through the season and
rule just says we gotta.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Do something here, yeah, which I was available credit to him, right,
I've never I couldn't have. I have never in all
my years of watching football being involved covering it, have
heard of you grab a guy from the street, bring
him in as an analyst on your bye week, and
by the next week you've named him offensive coordinator. Like

(35:30):
this dude hasn't been there at all, knows no one knows,
no terminology, doesn't even know where to park, and then
you've got him calling plays like unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Has to google his way to the facility.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
His first press conference, he was like, yeah, we really
liked that that receiver number four, number eighteen, Like we'd
need a little bit more out of thirteen. Like he
didn't even know their names, dude, Like it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Probably still doesn't.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
He just watches the tape. He knows who can played
who can't.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Which you know, he was like, yeah, I think some
coaches he's like. He came in and just started taking
the scythe down the hallway. He was like, oh, passing
game coordinator gone, running game coordinator gone. I was like,
oh my god, this dude's in here just popping heads.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Nothing to lose for him. No, I mean he literally
walked in there.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
You guys Entourage people, and you guys watched Entourage, dude,
Like the picture is the r scene where he came
to paintball, Like tell me what you do here? Oh, okay,
you're fired, fired, Like that's exactly what Dana Holgerson came
in and did, and he put new life because you
can't just assume like, oh, this team was bad. When
they went and put forty points up on Wisconsin, who

(36:42):
they held, they almost took down the number one team
in the country the week before, Like the same players,
it's the same guys. It really is incredible. Sometimes you
just change a coach, it can reinvigorate an entire team.
Look at the Browns, look at the Saints, Like sometimes
it is just getting one guy out of the way, now.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
Is he calm? Like and they installed new offense or like.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
What like so what so? The word I keep hearing
is simplified, right, they simplified. And that's an interesting word
when you say football, because you can't just simplify an
entire playbook. But what I think they did is they
just cut down and just went back to like, hey,
we're only gonna we're only going to practice twenty five.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Plays, twenty best plays.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Right, these are our twenty five best plays. We're not
going to go into the game plan with a giant
card sheet and hey, we have twelve third and fives,
twelve third and seven pluses, and like, hey, here's what
we're gonna do. And that's what I saw against Wisconsin
was just it was just simple. It was a lot
of the same same concepts, but just different window dressing. Right, Hey,
we're running inside zone, but this time we're gonna run

(37:44):
out of a two by two set and we're gonna
motion a guy across. But it's the same concept as
we line up in three by one.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Right, informations are cheap, exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Right, And I think we saw a little bit more
of that, which allows some of our younger guys and
allows our freshman quarterback then I have to do so much,
put so much on their shoulders, and then we got
some game going which we haven't had all freaking year.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I saw Kurt Warner posted a tweet this past weekend.
It was just like I think it was actually handwritten out,
like you're, you know, eight an eight square of eight
different plays, and he was like, if I was going
to start a team right now on offense, I would
install these eight plays and get really good at him,
and I just thought, like, man, I love the concept
of just do a couple things really really well.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I mean, it's how Wisconsin won all their Big Ten championships. Yeah,
right when I was in school, when you guys were
in school, what they do, Oh, they're just gonna line
up and run power a bunch of different ways. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
Yeah, they're just gonna line up this way, shift a
guy motion back, and then his power.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
It's just like, yeah, just a bunch of window dressing
is to confuse you about where they're running the power.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
And all it takes was one linebacker to get out
of his gap, and there goes money Ball, there goes
Melvin Gordon.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Didn't hurt that they had all American backs.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I mean, but it also like every offensive lineman was
from like a four hundred mile radius and they were
all six seven, three and thirty pounds.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
They had literal beef cattle.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Just monstrous line. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
So talk to me about Roola, Yeah, because you came
on the show and out of your mouth was I
haven't seen a young kid spin it like this, And
that's I would say for the most part, like in
a in a vacuum. He's he's proven that he's talented.
Kid can throw it, He's built already to play at
this level. He's boy, he's taking some hits that I

(39:31):
would say are ill advised, but yeah, he's he's for
the most part past the test as a freshman. I
think Kirk Farance today in his press conference, who you know,
is just well, yeah, king of just slurping the other.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, no bolletin board material coming out of Iowa City.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I think he, I think word for word, was like
I can't imagine there's a better freshman quarterback in the
country than Dylan Roola, Right, but to some extent like yeah, probably,
So tell me, what do you guys think?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, you know, the more I've watched him, the more
I've really come to respect what he's done. Because most
freshman quarterbacks that play early are athletes. Right. If you
look at the guys that come in and play early,
they're crazy. Like the kid down at Florida. I can't
think of his name right.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Now, DJ Lagway.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, like crazy athlete, right, can run and spread the
field and create with his legs and do all kinds
of crazy stuff. Dylan is a true quarterback freshman passer
where like he's he can't really run, like he can
scramble and fall down for five, ten, fifteen if he
has to, but he is in no way say or
form a threat to if you're running man coverage, he's

(40:42):
going to take it fifty yards and score. And so
the way that I've got to watch him develop as
a passer this year has been really fun to watch
because he has the touch passes that very few quarterbacks
in all of college football have. Right, he had a
play against it was against a CEEU early in the

(41:03):
year where it looked like a very casual throw, like
he caught it, he goes, but it was one of
those where it was from the far hash to the
other side of the field, up and over the linebackers,
but actually got the ball down before it reached the
cover to safety. And I looked at people, I was like,
I don't think you understand how hard but pass that
actually really is. Like it was only like a seventeen

(41:23):
yard like.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
Out route, but he threw the ball like fifty.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
But he threw the ball fifty yards, threw the ball
before the guy was out of his break, and it
was up and over and dropped in and so those
are the kind of plays where you watch him. Okay,
we've got something here, right, But I do think he
still hasn't quite got out of the Hey, I gotta
get this ball out of my hand right like, because
those are the hits you're starting to take, and that
comes with being a young QB of you're used to
high school of, Like I can just run away from

(41:48):
this sixteen year old. Like, No, that dude's a twenty
two year old kid from Ohio State that's gonna get
drafted on a Thursday night next year. You better throw
the football before he gets home.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
He's gonna kill you.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
He wants to hurt you physically hurt you. And so
he's got to get some more of that stuff going.
But I mean, he's as advertised. I think he has
a chance to be as good of a quarterback that's
ever been through Nebraska.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
Thanks stan Is Cyril's goodback.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
True quarterback. Okay, I'm not saying best athlete like Eric
Crouch and Taylor Taylor Martinez and Adrian Martinez all these
like dual threat guys, they're great, but you're talking about
true quarterback play. He has the chance to be the
best to come to Nebraska. It's cool.

Speaker 7 (42:26):
How are you gonna break your lineman mold?

Speaker 3 (42:28):
And he already has an agent? Dude? You kidding me?
That dude, that dude's already got an agent. Lock seal
delivered so that these dudes have Dude, those big time
recruit guys have those guys have agents in sixteen year olds.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
Now, yeah, that's so wild.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
How do you you think that guy from Michigan that
just signed for ten and a half million doesn't have
an agent helping negotiate those deals? Wild?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I just saw the clip of Dave talking about how
it happened.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
Larry freaking Ellison, Right, what does he do?

Speaker 6 (42:55):
By the way, he's oracle.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
He's a CEO for a yeah, massive tech company.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I mean that's two hundred billion, that's how and his
wife and Dave just decided we're getting the best goddamn quarterback.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I mean, he's not even a Michigan guy, right, That's
that's that's happy wife, happy life.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Yeah, it's just right. Make you happy and like not
miserable on Saturday?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Is this gonna make my life easier? So I have
to hear you whin about Michigan losing. Here's ten and
a half million. Figure out what you.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
Wanted to a third marriage. He's pretty determined to make
this work.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
How insane is it that ten million is just throw
away money to.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
It matters, not to him. Unbelievable. But that's the same
thing with like Texas, Texas, A and M like those dudes. Now,
you don't think Matthew McConaughey is slipping slipping money to Texas.
Of course, yes, the oil money down there.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Is all right, all money at the A and m coults.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
You got to worry about it. That's not McConaughey.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
It's it's wild, dude. College football is heading for a
crazy spot.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
Well, it's called good change next year.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
No, well the rev share model, Yeah, the repshare model
is going to start August twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
What's crazy to me is I just saw and keV
this is gonna be a big off season podcast. Uh,
maybe multiple ones, this whole like team's gotta cut guys, yep.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Nebraska said, we have one hundred and fifty guys on
roster right now, and you guys have one of the
bigger rosters in all of college.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
We always have we always have like the walk walk on,
the walk on tradition, here has been anybody, Yeah over
like they we kind of started the walk on movement
like that was kind of Nebraska's state.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, big fry with too obviously hmm.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
And but but roster size is huge at Nebraska, and
and nobody's gonna have to cut this many. But they
said they're gonna have to cut between forty and fifty guys.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, because it's got to get one and most teams,
I think, keV, would we roll around with one twenty one.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
Usually round one twenty maybe one twenty five.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
So I mean that's that's twenty guys that are getting next.
And keV, keV if it's twenty thirteen or twenty.

Speaker 8 (44:58):
Fourteen, wouldn't have been very comfortable. keV see it, Bud Well,
I mean no, no, no, I was part of the
one o five. I was gonna say you you really
would not have been on this podcast.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Who made it to camp? Right, That's that's the way
you have to look at it. That's true. Who made
it to camp? Who didn't? Those who weren't at camp
probably aren't on the team.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
It's a crazy thing to think about I should not
have been here. You know why they're doing it, right?
Have I explained to you why they're making the why.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
They It's just they can't have endless amount of guys
on scholarship that they like just pried with nil.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I tried to explain it to my wife like this,
like right now, if you have one hundred and thirty guys,
Oregon with Phil Knight can just say okay, one hundred
and thirty full scholarship where that's will fund that. And
so now you cut it to one o five and
you add the revshare model in, and now you kind
of level the playing field. But like in a way,
you also aren't ever going to be able to level

(45:57):
it because the collectives are still a thing. And so
now so now Oregon can just pay their one oh
five whoever they want those one oh five to be.
They're all going to get five ten x what they'll
get at another school.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
Still, so I've heard rumors that they're going to try
to set up some sort of NL clearing house that
like they're going to try to eliminate the pay for plays.
Like you can do ads, you can do NL agreements,
but it has to be like if you're doing an
ad for a local car dealership, it's not going to
be a million dollar deal, right, you know how it is,

(46:28):
like how how have you no idea?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
How?

Speaker 7 (46:31):
I just know I've heard?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Because the problem is you start trying to take right,
you start trying to take rights back, you're gonna get sued.
Like it's gonna be litigation out the ass, right, Like
you can't as as my business partner, right, he's been
an age for twenty seven years, he started a law firm.
He's like, dude, the NCAA's toast like they you can't
put the toothpaste back in the two. Right, you let
this monster out, you let it go. You're not gonna

(46:54):
be able to start stripping rights back off of the
of the case. They want to go make money. It
is their name, image, likeness, How they make kid is
not your problem. You don't have you don't have a
stay in this anymore so.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
How so then and I don't want to make it
this podcast because I think again, like we had you
on the last offseason, we got lots to go there.
We will, Yeah, we'll have plenty to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Plus draft, like all of your NFL stuff love it.
By the way, good year for you. I got some prospects.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah, uh so I got a top hundred kid out
of Kansas, uh, an old lineman there. Uh, working on
another one out of North Dakota State. And then I
got a kid from Michigan, kid from Minnesota, kid from
Iowa State, and a kid from Vanderbilt that all have
potentials to be drafted. So that's good. And then working
on a kid of running back out of Sincy. So
working there, I was. I was talking to your boy,

(47:36):
Logan Jones there for a while the center, but I
think he went a different direction. So that's all right.
Things happened. He seems like he's having a great year. Yeah,
he's having a really good year.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
But yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
God, it's there's a lot going on. How how in
short in your mind, sirles, how do you fix it?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Like they have to just become you just yeah, you
become You can't become employees, right because if become employees,
you're now talking about employee employer relationship. Right now, you're
talking about benefits. You're talking about workers comp right, Like,
think about workers comp every single one of us. Maybe
not my small friend here, but like the rest of
us all got hurt while playing at Iowa. At one

(48:17):
point in time, something right, Something got hurt right, whether
it's a finger or a hamstring, a back and neck,
whatever it might be. If you're an employee employer relationship,
I can now come after you for workers compensation because
I was hurt on the job. So I don't think
that'll ever happen. I think the revshare model is going
to fix some of this, but I really don't think
until you become until you separate yourself fully from the

(48:40):
NCAA and you set up your own type of collective
bargaining agreement between players and the whole bit, there's really
no fixing it. In my opinion. It's just adapt and
the good teams will adapt and take advantage and win,
and the Clemsons.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Will not und He Dabbo refuses to.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
He was gonna cost him his job. It's gonna cost
him his job.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
I don't think he cares.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, I don't think he does either. He's made enough
money to do whatever he wants. But it's the reason
Saban got out, It's the reason college coaches are going
to the NFL faster than ever before. It's a lot
to deal with.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
Yeah, it's gonna be a headache.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I mean, you're recruiting your own guys after they're already there. Huff.
It's not good.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
At least at hey, at least at one oh five,
you'll have to recruit twenty less guys.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
No, there you go.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
It's all counts, y'all go five and one. You're feeling good.
Where did the issues start to come out?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
What happened? Yeah? The biggest The biggest issue was people
figured us out on offense, our tendencies, right, we were
very simple, in my opinion, under Sadderfield with our offense
as far as people couldn't believe that. I would watch
the game with like friends and stuff at home, and
I would call out what play we were running before

(49:56):
we snap, and I'm like, it were so tendency driven
it's insane, Like, hey, yeah you have, but we didn't
have the personnel that it didn't matter, right. We weren't.
We weren't Wisconsin where it's just like, you know, we're
running power, we have the personnel to do it. You
ain't gonna stop it, right, We didn't have that. We
don't have that offensive line, we don't have those type
of skill players where we're just gonna be a line

(50:16):
up and run. So we became very tendency and defenses
figured it out, started playing to our tendencies, and we
couldn't come over the hump. And the biggest thing that
happened was there was our At one point when we
were five and one, I believe we were like plus
nine in the turnover differential. When we lost to UCLA,
we were back to zero on the turnover differential. Right,

(50:36):
So you start talking about your minus nine turnover differential
through five games, it's not surprised why you lost so
many games, right, So that was a big reason we
started fumbling, turn the ball over, not taking the ball
away on defense and then and put Daniel Holgerson. Even
against usc we started to find some more life, started
to find some more rhythms, starting to find ways to
get the ball out of our hands running football again,

(50:57):
which then inspired our defense again. Right, Because I don't
know if you guys have ever been a part of
a team, but I've been part of a team where
like the defense. And when I was on the Vikings
in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, our defense was lights
out right, like number one scoring defense, number one in sacks,
like the whole bit. But our offense couldn't piss a drop, right,
we were winning games like seventeen to ten.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
You're talking to too.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
It wasn't nearly as dramatic for us during our tenure
as it was for the Iowa guys like the last
two years.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Correct, And eventually it wears the defense out. Eventually they're
just like, oh my gosh, dude, we let up fourteen
points and we lost, right Like, it just wears those
guys out. And so I think we got a little
bit of that defensive fatigue going on where guys were like,
we let up seventeen points, like we should win a game,
moralizing we should. If you hold a team in college

(51:48):
football today's air college football under three touchdowns, you should win. Yeah, right,
And so I think we lost a little bit of
juju going there and then get a little bit of
life against USC we lose it at the end, come
back and whack Wisconsin. I mean, there's a lot of
confidence in that building in Lincoln right now, for the
first time in a couple of years, I mean, to
be honest, maybe the most confidence under Matt rule ever.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
Do you think you know obviously they're going to a
bowl game. Do you think, given that big time program
hasn't been to a ball in eight years, you think
you'll see any opt outs whatsoever from this Nebraska team?
Or I don't think someone's playing.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I think everyone's playing. I mean, the only guy in
my opinion that would maybe opt out is Ty Robinson, right,
the D lineman. But he came good. He's a top
one hundred and fifty player. He came back to go
to a bowl game, right, like that was his goal,
and so for him to sit out would make no
sense to me whatsoever. I bet you Tommy Hill probably

(52:44):
sits out, but because he's hurt. Right, But that's a
little bit of a different like, hey, you're doing you're
getting ready to go into the NFL.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, we have one of those two.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah right. It's like, if you were fully healthy, would
you play, Probably, But when you already have a risk
of injury, you don't want to re injure yourself late
in December because you can put yourself back. So I
think those would be the only two guys that I
think would be considered draftable. You know, but I still
think that unless you're a lock for a top three rounds.
You should always play in your bowl game.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
The bowl games are just it's tough.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
But the other for a program from a program builder, too,
is those practices are so important.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
They stack up over a course of five years.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I mean when you're talking about young guys getting development
and and that piece to it, and I mean it's
a huge thing. And we were talking about with Dana
Holgerson being the OC for Nebraska, now like those those
three four weeks of practice are gonna be able to
springboard us into spring ball so much more from an
offensive side than if we just cut it after Thanksgiving.
You don't put the pads back on until late March.

(53:43):
Big time.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Huge young guys just come along so much faster.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, I mean in bull practice for an older guys,
pretty much nothing right. You kind of just keep everything
going again and then you really ramp up again, like
ten days before the game.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
The seniors are unlike, there's like retirement.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, I got put out the pasture my
senior year. Drake Drake nine on sevens, Right, you're done, Drake.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Our senior year was like he was one year out
of the injury playing Nebraska the previous year and they're like, hey, buddy,
let's you got four good reps in you.

Speaker 7 (54:16):
Let's just we're gonna put you out the pasture.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Enjoy your time.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
You do stretch and punk punt period and hey, you
stand over here, put.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
That beanie on. For Scout team was up was bol
games for you guys as you got older, you guys
get to go out party, do all the fun things
or to kirk have you guys on lockdown.

Speaker 7 (54:34):
So we usually got down there pretty early and they
gave us like the first two nights to kind of
go runut around, get out of our system, and then
it was game week mode after that. And then obviously
there's literally no rules after the game, like, oh yeah,
good out the door. There's no rules whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah. My Emma, My, she was my girlfriend at the time,
my senior year. I was like, hey, she's getting on
the bus with us to go the airport. We're gonna fly.
They're like, you're a senior dude, You're done. I'm like, yep,
sounds great. Come on, as we're like puking in the
back because we're all still drunk from the night before.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Oh the I think the bowl trips, you know, obviously
like you gotta any group of college guys is gonna
have their fair share of like college stories, right that
they take with them. The bull trips produce some of
the legendary, some of the most absurd just debauchery.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
It's and that's part of what I'm so happy for
these like this senior class Nebraska, like strip the football
side away from it, Like that shit is the stuff
you carry with the rest of your life. Yeah, right,
and that stuff these guys have never had, Like I
think about like Ty Robinson, Nash hut Maker, guys that
have been here with Scott and threw it and rule
and the whole bit. And to have them be able
to go to these bull trips and have that, I mean,

(55:54):
that just makes me really happy for them as college
players and guys that are maybe never even gonna smith
the NFL, but they're gonn to get to go have
a week long hopefully in somewhere that's not terrible.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
Yeah, Like, how does the fan base as a whole
feel about this season? Like, are they generally like, Yay,
we made it the next step we went to a
bowl game? Or are they disappointed they wanted more? Is
it gonna hinge a lot on what happens on Friday.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
You know, if you asked me that a week ago
before th Wisconson game, I'd say people are upset, like
really like they're just really upset because the we they're
the delusion that we were going to be a nine
to ten win season this year was very high. Right,
you go knockoff CEU week two, right, you build, you
go good win by the way, a big win for us, right,

(56:37):
and that was kind of a like, holy shit, we've
turned a corner. But I mean, look, I didn't think
see it was good though, Like when I watched the
U play, I was like, I don't think this is
a very good football team, and they've made it great.
But like as you progressed and as we got into
conference play and then when you get just dog walked
by Indiana, the question marks start to really come up,

(56:59):
like how close actually are we to che right? And
then you go battle Ohio State right to the end
and you're like, what the the fuck is going on?
It was kind of that feeling of like what are we?
Are we good? Are we bad? Are we somewhere in between?
There was just a lot of unease as a fan
base because we were so close to turning a corner
to be really good, and we were so close to
oh my god, we're five and one, we're not going

(57:20):
to a bowl game again.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, very confusing year actually for both teams for.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Sure, similar to Wisconsin and then just drop an egg
versus u c l as just like we we we
don't know what to make of this year.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
On I mean, you guys drop the one up in
East Lansing. Yeah, one, that one was if there's a
surprising and that.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
That that game was a lot further apart than it
looks on papers.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
I watched that. It was a Friday night game, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah,
Saturday night game. Yeah, it was under the lights of
East Lansing.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, it's it's if there's any.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Consistency or something to pull from, it was that we
were better at home than on the road.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
But like, I don't really think.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
That tells the tale of why we lost to Michigan
State or why, like there's no reason you just tackle
worse on the road, Like I don't, I don't know,
But yeah, definitely, I would say disappointing here for a
lot of Iowa fans. If if Nebraska pulls us off
in Kinnick on Friday. It will be a failure of
a season for sure, and the majority of Iowa fans

(58:28):
eyes and I can't even really, I don't know if
I really have an argument against that. Seven and five,
you'd be two out of four on the trophy.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
Games, and depending on your bigger rivals, you know, and
just the expectations coming into the year with the schedule
that we had, is like we were really expecting to
be like a fringe playoff team, right, yeah, so yeah,
could we make it in.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
So quarterback plays have been the problem.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Well, it didn't hurt that we're down to it.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
You're down, you're down to I mean, if you guys
didn't have to walk on program, you don't have a
quarterback right now.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
I don't know what we'd be doing. I really don't.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
And it's not to say that like if we had
I think the I think the best version of us
potentially this year would have been if we somehow started
Sullivan from the beginning and we had him consistently and
he wasn't injured for all twelve games.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I think that's probably our best option.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Yeah, I'd agree, Well, is.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
That a that's sort of a fairy tale with the
way that he sort of played when he got in
because he was like I'm running this thing, I'm gonna
take shots, and like was the injury, like he was
probably gonna get banged up, especially over the course of
twelve games.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Kit we started three or two, two and a half
three games, so who knows. Now we have literally Shaggy from.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Scooby doo h it's his Shaggy is his nickname, and
he's our quarterback and we're.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Kind of at this point literally sirls, this is where
our fan base is at. We're like, fuck it, baby,
he's our QB.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Let's go rally, rally, we love it. Okay, gun to
your head him or Deacon from last year, people can
him by long.

Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
The crazy thing is is that this guy's our fifth
string this year. That our second string last year was
that freaking bad, right, we had apparently no one behind
him that was better. No, So the story with this kid, Yeah,
our QB play hasn't been great this year, but we
had some significant depth over last year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
The story with this kid, from what I've heard a
couple of comments from around is that this kid had
like a scholarship opportunity to Washington and then the coaching
change happened and all of that turnover went around, and
his scholarship was not upheld, and so he ended up
going to or or maybe it was the year before that,

(01:00:54):
and for some reason something didn't work out. He ended
up going to Colorado State. He just didn't have a
landing spot really and spent a year there and our
new guy, Lester, found him. And the way Lester's talked
about him is like, Yeah, I didn't recruit this guy
at a high school, but I looked at him in
the transfer portal from Colorado State like a guy who

(01:01:16):
I would have recruited based on what I've seen. And
he's come in and he can sling that thing and
he's pretty damn accurate. I don't know what he can
do with his feet. It's hard to really assess him
at all. With two or three weeks of like, hey,
this is the I WILL playbook, and it's late in
the season, you're trying to just I think he even
had a quote in the media that said he's felt

(01:01:36):
like he's been drinking through a fire hose, for sure,
So that's impossible, right, And he's still decently young, who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I think he's got I think we'll go to the portal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
That's another topic for the podcast this offseason. But I
think him and Sullivan, along with whoever they can find
in the portal, will all have like a decently even
opportunity to compete for the starting gig.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Which is crazy to say about somebody who's like a
fourth or a fifth string quarterback, but it's a little
bit of an odd situation, how.

Speaker 7 (01:02:07):
Do you, Yeah, the saving grace for our team this
year is that we haven't asked our quarterbacks to do
a whole lot just because our run game has been
I mean, you never do a blessing to have this year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I mean it's it's why guys like Stanley get drafted
in the seventh round, yeah, and don't do anything in
the NFL because it's like, no, no, we actually ask
you to do things here as a quarterback, right.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Stanley caught a lot of hate during his day, but
he actually.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
He played within the system.

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
He played through the system. But every now and then,
like we asked him to throw the ball forty times
a game. Yeah, like he more so than any other
quarterback that we had even benther like we probably asked
the most out of him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Stanley's currently the most retroactively respected.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Quarterback like quarterback in Iowa history.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Probably like so many people this year have been like Nate,
I'm so I've seen so many tweets like Nate Stanley,
I'm so sorry. I apologize for everything I said about
you you were It turns out you were actually a
pretty damn good quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
He's the guy that like he was the guy that
nil was created for. Oh yeah, I go make it
in the NFL. Not gonna make millions, Like, but you're
a damn good college quarterback. Make a couple of million
while you're in school. Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Right, how does Friday turn out? What's it gonna look like?
It's gonna be cold. It's gonna be cold. It's gonna
be a cold game, man, I mean I think it's
gonna be I can't give it to Iowa just.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
The cold weather. Does that give that Iowa advantage? Oh
we can't throw the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Ball for shiit? No? I mean I think I think
it gives you guys the advantage to this being at home,
just being in Kinnick, right, I mean, naturally, you talk
about Memorial Stadium versus Kinnick, Like, you know, the fan
bases are going for it. It's gonna be loud, it's
gonna be crazy. Like it's hard to play in Kinnick.
I played there twice. It's a tough place to play,

(01:03:57):
just as it's hard to play a Memorial when that
place is rocking. And so you got to go there.
But I think our defense matches up really well against
your guys' offense, right, Ty Robinson, Nash hutt Maker, John Bullock, right,
those type of players, And we can throw some of
our younger guys in there now with the red shirt rule, right,
Some of our bigger guys that we've put in the
last couple of weeks, which has been part of the

(01:04:19):
reason we've had some more success on defense, in my opinion,
is guys like Riley Van Poppol, who we've played him
last year, red shirted him this year, so we've been
using in the last four games, Like that's a guy
that you're gonna be able to put in there now
and get thirty snaps out of and he's fresh sure, right,
And so we have some of those young guys that
are bigger guys on the front end of our defense.
I think we match up well against your guys' style

(01:04:41):
of play. You know, the guys, the guys we've struggled
with lately are the quick passing games, right, the USC's,
the UCLA's, the guys that are getting the ball out
of their hands quickly, because we're built to get to
the passer, right We're a stunt, a blitz, create chaos
in the middle, get to the passer. The quick game kill,
and you guys just don't have much of a quick game.

(01:05:02):
So I do think that you know, that side's going
to be a pretty good matchup going Nebraska vice versa.
You guys, defense is always really good. I mean, it's
so solid, is the way it goes. We're struggling with
on offense. I'm not sure we're gonna be able to
put up twenty five points, twenty eight points in that
kind of weather against your guys' team. But I have

(01:05:23):
optimism that we're gonna be able to score seventeen plus,
you know, And that's kind of where I'm looking at
this game, being a seventeen to twenty one type of ballgame.
It's always close, I mean, I mean, yeah, it's always
gonna come down to a fourth quarter possession. Right, That's
that's where it's gonna come down to.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
Well, what you're telling me is that the under is
lock for it. It's at thirty nine and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
I mean I'd be shocked if both teams scored over
twenty points. I mean it would feel I'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Shocked, Honestly. Hot takes. Maybe not hot take. The Bob
has a better home court advantage than Memorial Stadium does.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Not a hot take.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
The Vanny Center is rocket Yeah, not a hot take, dude.
I was there for Wisconsin game the other night.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah, dude, call me if you're in town.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
I know, I thought about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I was looking fifteen we were there, and I was like,
damn it, I should have said something to Cearles.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Grab a beer or something. Bro. Well, yeah, it was
is awesome though, isn't it. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I'm the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I'm just a fan of like volleyball in general. And
that's the Mecca, right Jesus Christ. Is that a sick environment?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I mean it was electric.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Yeah. No, that that place is absolutely nuts. And I
mean we used to play in the coliseum when I
was in school, and I'd go to all the games.
And I mean my wife and my my mother in
law love it, and so we go. But man, the
seats up there tight. I do not fit in those seats.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
No. They put Wisconsin in an absolute.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Coffin the other night, so blendered.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be weird. There's gonna be a
lot of running the ball. Hopefully it's a quick game, cause.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
I think, I mean, yeah, this is I mean. The
problem is it's gonna be a lot of TV timeouts.
You see a lot of that orange hat guy going
like this corner, like, hey, it's been a nine minute drive.
We got to fit in two TV timeouts in here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
My favorite is the back to back. They go to
a TV timeout, they come back, they kick off touch
back TV time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Fuck. Oh are you guys going to the game? I'm going. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I'll be doing a Thanksgiving with my family that night,
and the game will be the highlight we'll be watching
on the TV.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
I'll be in Cincinnati, so I will be out to
I'll be out to dinner with a client during the game. Unfortunately,
but you do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
So you're gonna beat in a ribbi.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Oh yeah on the company card, baby love jealous. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
I don't have a lot of analysis.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I think it's this thing has come down to a
I mean last year we beat you guys with like
a walk on kicker to like thirteen to ten.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Racina hit one, Duncan hit one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
We've beat you guys on like walk off field goals
three of the last five times we've won. Yep, We've
got another great kicker in Drew Stevens, and he can.
He's got the biggest leg probably since Marshall Kane, which
is over ten years now, So I got a bigger one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
It's damn close. I'd love to see it in person.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
He is weapon for you guys, just like I think
our punter is a weapon. Yeah, Brian Bushini is a
major reason why we've been able to stay in games.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I mean, Buskini is h he's winning, spreading across the Midwest. Yeah,
he's a He's a top ten punter in the in
college for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I completely agree.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
And our guy's close as a freshman too, Dakin's been
really good. But Buskini. The other day we're listening to
the game, I was like, Dude, this fucking Bouskini guy.
He can, he can boote it now could be a
lot of punts.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Oh, I would I would assume what do you want
to say, ten punts total?

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Oh yeah, over over over over, Yeah, I would say
closer to twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
I like it, Yeah, I like it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
We don't really give predictions on this show, but my
prediction is gonna be a three point game.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Yeah, that's a safe prediction. I mean because even if
even I mean even when we were in our lean
years and you guys were in your good years, it
was always a game still, right, Like that's the great
thing about college football is when you get two weeks
like this, I mean rivalry week, everything's out the window. Right.
Auburn could beat Alabama this week, one hundred percent. Can
happen their stride, they're feeling good off coming off the

(01:09:31):
A and m oh yeah right they go there. I
don't think Michigan has a chance to get so have
State this week. I mean, I think Ohio State is
rock and rolling, but you never know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Twenty point line on that tame the way we're going
to get to the who we're gonna get to the
world famous awards winners here in just a second world.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
But h yeah, so what so what is what is Iowa?
Do How does Iowa win this game? Right? If Iowa,
If Iowa beats Nebraska on Friday, how do they do it?

Speaker 7 (01:10:00):
They don't beat themselves and let Nebraska beat themselves. It's
how we've won this game. I feel like the majority
of the time of the past decade. Yeah, win penalties,
win field position.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
We grab a couple dumb throws from Reyola and snag him.
Dakin and Stevens are great on special teams. We probably
kicked two or three long field goals on drives where
we just can't get inside your thirty. We play field position,
and we probably require and have the ability to put

(01:10:31):
one long drive together where Caleb Johnson gets in the
end zone or just maybe he just brings one, breaks
one tackle and he's off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
There one explosive Yeah, and then our defense has really
one of their It's been a tale of two games.
We have one of our good games versus one of
our two or three bad games this year, and I
think I think we come out on top of that
five and a half points spread. As I look at
it here, you know, two or three of those points
are probably Kinnick Stadium, and yeah, there you go. So,

(01:11:00):
how does Wisconsin win if they're the ones that come
out on top.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
You mean Nebraska or Wisconsin. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Yeah, I mean
I think I think for Nebraska, in order for us
to win, we have to win the turnover battle. Yeah, right,
because we're not gonna go seventy five eighty yards on
your defense time and time again. Right, we need to
get a turnover at the forty and we convert that

(01:11:25):
into seven points. Right. That's the recipe for which Nebraska
has a chance to come out in this game. And
I agree with you. We can't have a disaster on
special teams. Right. We've had a couple of punts blocked
this year, right, as we put that on tape. You
guys are great at special teams. They're gonna test us
on our pump protection. We've had some kicks blocked this year, Right,
Those are the kind of disaster type plays that we

(01:11:46):
have to avoid. And then offensively, we have to find
ways to create explosive plays, right, which against you guys,
it's tough, and really we haven't been able to do
it really all year. Right, whether that's a twenty five
yard plus throw or you know, a twelve plus yard run,
that's kind of how I look at explosive plays.

Speaker 7 (01:12:06):
That's how we've always graded them as well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Right, And we just have to have two or three
of those throughout the game to get ourselves into scoring position,
because this isn't gonna be a game where we can
just go, hey, first and ten second and six third
and four convert. It's like, that's not gonna happen. It's
not gonna skip. We have to skip some third downs
in there and get the ball pushed down the field.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
And it's not gonna be a game like you guys
had worse Wisconsin last week either, because I gave up Yeah,
it well, and it's even even on a team that didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
If you beat them that way, IO would just never
loses that way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
No, And I don't think that we're not that team.
We're not that team that's gonna scare you to go
put forty on you. We're not there yet, right. I
think that we did enough last week to make Iowa
go okay. If we let them get hot and let
them get in a rhythm, Dana can cook some stuff up, right,
But I think you guys come after us because UCLA
put it out there. Hey, they went cover zero multiple

(01:13:02):
times and we had no answer for it. I would
be shocked if you guys don't come after Raila early
in this game and try and get him rattled.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
It'd be interesting to see.

Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
We're not typically a heavy blitzing team.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
You're not, But why that? It's kind of but what
you guys are really good coaches, and you guys understand
how to how to rattle young quarterbacks. Right, So why
if hey, they're not a heavy blitz team all week long? Hey,
we're they're gonna send four maybe five first third down?
Here comes six? Right, Like there's some panic in a
young kid's eyes on a major stage. That's what I do.
If I played rel I would try and get after

(01:13:34):
him early, because you get him on the ground a
few times. Kids from Arizona. This is gonna be the
first cold game he played in, right, I mean we
haven't had a cold game yet this year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yeah, our guy, our guy Dylan has not experienced what
he's said.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
You were in you were in bra you were in
Nebraska on Saturday last week. It was gorgeous, beautiful. I
mean it was fifty eight degrees, sixty degrees. I was
sitting a deer stand, pissed off because it was so hot,
right like, but he has not had what is its
supposed to be like twenty eight thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
It's gonna be a high of thirty. Window is gonna
be in the teens.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Right, he has not played in that yet. That's that's
a whole new experience for that young man. So if
I'm IOWA, I'm gonna try and get him on the
ground a few times. We're like, this ground's really hard
and cold, right, Like, I really enjoy this, and I've
got a bruise back, right, he's got a little banged
up back. Miss some time. I think that if they
get if they get to him early, it's gonna be
a long day for the hot spring in Heinrich Harberg, Yeah,

(01:14:27):
come on in Heinrich.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Hey, when he comes in by the way, they run.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Yeah, it's a pretty good tendency that we're not gonna
let him put the ball in the air, because we
watched that movie last year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
And we know how it ends every time every time
he comes into the game, because they will use him sparingly.
I'll just yell Harper because he's dating Harper Harbor Permurray
uh And my wife.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Gets a kick out of that. So are major come
up for him? Oh yeah, major punt punt coverage there,
she might make more money than he does. Good for
my boy. Uh that's how there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Listeners to the pod. Two sides of the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
If the Huskers a gonna win, if the Hawks are
gonna win, that's how it's gonna look.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
It is exciting that you know it's gonna be like
a competitive game. Right, There's been multiple years I've done
this show where I'm just like fake juicing it as
I got through it. Right, But I mean, I think
both of us really do feel that our team has
a chance to win this game.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
If you guys win the game, they finished with the
same record, right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
And talk about I mean seven wins for Nebraska and
a second year under Matt rule, fucking huge win.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Yeah, I do worry.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
A huge win for recruiting. Right, that's a huge win
for going into the off season, and then you get
to a bowl game with a chance for eight Come on,
I mean, what more do you want from a guy
in year two?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Sure, I do worry about expectations and the way that
college coaches don't get a lot of time nowadays, Like
we're in the offseason we're gonna have We're gonna have
a conversation about rules ceiling and where this thing can
go and what what Nebraska fans can realistically hope to
expect long term. But that brings us Jay to our
favorite segment. It's world famous. Everybody knows it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Can I can I say one thing to that real quick?
You guys underestimate the money that's in this state. Oh no,
we know you have the money that is the state
that is willing to pour into the program. Makes me
think that the rule ceiling is actually very high because
I mean, Larry the cable guy has a box suite

(01:16:22):
in the stadium. Committee thirty thousand subs win, you know,
and the n I L, the n I L space
Nebraska is very good, and I think that is going
to help us tremendously as things continue on here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
For sure, I would agree with shy Kevin. All I
do is we No, that's a throwback to Jay's time
right there?

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Oh absolutely was Wayne Wayne. When I mean every don't
every high school, every every single high school halftime, varsity
warm up during the JV game, Yes, out there the
lay up lines, but the one guy that could dunk
and you're in the shorts are so long, so long,
so bad. You got the full warm up sweats onto
the snap away pants.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
And you have no idea how actually bad you are.
So unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
I've got some games I didn't do well last week,
and I've I've kind of had a tough little skid
here at the end, I'm gonna stay positive both.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
In uh attitude and record. We are going to start
this week.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
I usually start this segment Jeremiah, I'm gonna go to
the Minnesota Wisconsin game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
I see it two and a half. It's early in
the week.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
By the way, for those listening, I'm gonna drop this
podcast sometime on Wednesday. I think, uh, so you're gonna
get a little earlier than you would because we got
the Friday game. Minnesota is not a bad football team,
not at all. Wisconsin's not a good football team. Wisconsin's
favor here two and a half points. I'm taking Minnesota
in camp.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
I don't understand that at all.

Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
Wisconsin is another one of those teams just can't figure out.
It's like, yeah, they go toe to toe with Oregon,
they get blown out by Nebraska and Iowa.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
It's like it's confusing no idea what's going on? And
maybe the books know more than me here they usually do. Uh,
their mind is two and a half. But I'm taking Minnesota.
Give me the points there two and a half, Gophers cover,
maybe win that outright, and that's a trophy game, right
what do they play for?

Speaker 9 (01:18:24):
That is the ax I believe a comically large acts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Yeah, keV I, you influenced me earlier. Like so, the
lock of the week is the under. It's thirty nine
and a half on draft gas right now. I'm going
to take that under cold ball game Iowa Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I think it was thirteen to ten last year. There's
been so many outcomes like that. Give me the under.
Friday in Kinnick Stadium. Where's my team?

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Army just tough one, tough one last week Oat Raised
Boat Race, and it's time for the troops to stand
up and fight.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
They got to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
They gotta have a good comeback this week. Ut s
A at home, Uh minus seven, Army minus seven. I'll
take that to cover and then I'm gonna do one more.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
It was in the se c.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Yeah the dude. Auburn Alabama Auburn plus eleven and a half.
Bama's struggling. Give me that one.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Jaden Millros, not an NFL quarterback, can't convince me otherwise, you're.

Speaker 7 (01:19:26):
Like objectively terrible year throwing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
The ball.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I'm taking. I'm taking Auburn as my last pick.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
They're gonna cover. It's gonna be a it's gonna be
a fun rivalry game. Close, maybe not as close as
I went Nebraska, but it will be a close one.
It'll keep it within ten.

Speaker 7 (01:19:44):
I'll go here before you list off every game of
rival a rican here, grant we have a lot. I
got n D minus seven and a half at usc
They you need an impressive win to they're seating.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:20:03):
I think they stay hot and they make short workout
of the Trojans. I've got South Carolina plus two and
a half at Clemson. I think South Carolina is one
of the sneaky good teams of college football this year,
Like they should have won that LSU game and they
might have been on the fringe for a playoff run themselves.
I've also got ASU minus eight and a half at Arizona,

(01:20:26):
one of the hotter teams in the Big twelve, looking
to cap it off and cure a spot. So I
think they play well.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Which is an atrocious it's a travesty. It's crazy. The
Big Twelve should not get a seat at the table.
Not this year. No, yeah, no.

Speaker 7 (01:20:40):
If Army had only lost by two touchdowns last week,
they probably wouldn't have because Armory and boys, he would
be ranked ahead of the Big Twelve champion.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
You said him, tu Lanan instead if they win the American.

Speaker 7 (01:20:51):
Sure, sure, Kansas State and some sc seat team Oklahoma.
That's right, And then I got the Islander as well.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
There we go. Buckle up for this one day.

Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
Buckle up?

Speaker 6 (01:21:03):
Oh no, okay, I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 9 (01:21:05):
I think Ravellry Week means dogs are barking, and I
picked several of them except for this one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Though.

Speaker 6 (01:21:11):
I like Clemson to start against South Carolina.

Speaker 9 (01:21:14):
I know we do trash dabble a lot, but I
don't know if you guys say the rankings came out
when we started the show, they're the first team out
right now in.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
The South Carolina.

Speaker 9 (01:21:22):
No Clemsoness Clemson is the first team out, and that
just just tell me. I think that they're they're still
in contention for the playoff definitely. And also I didn't
even realize until this week that they can still make
these C championships.

Speaker 6 (01:21:33):
So a lot on the line.

Speaker 9 (01:21:34):
I'm taking Clemson minus two and a half and also
the under forty nine. I like both defenses a lot.
Kentucky plus four and a half versus Louisville, I'm gonna
take Kansas minus one and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
I think they go to a bowl game.

Speaker 9 (01:21:44):
I think they're gonna go to the Liberty Bowl and
play another fantastic game like they did the last time there.
Cal plus thirteen and a half. My soul just says
that they beat SMU this week, and I don't know why.
Kind of a weird spot, like they've had it clinched
for two weeks now SMU, so I feel like it's
just destined for something bad to happen there. Arkansas plus
three and a half. I have USC also, Kevin. I

(01:22:06):
feel bad. I think I have the opposite of a.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
Lot of these on your us.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Kevin. I feel a little bad about it.

Speaker 7 (01:22:11):
Because I like this.

Speaker 9 (01:22:12):
I like this to be a team thing, you know,
where we all work together, where we can all win
for each other at least.

Speaker 7 (01:22:16):
At least somebody's gonna win, so someone will win.

Speaker 9 (01:22:19):
But I took USC there. I just like, I feel
like seven and a half is just screaming. I also
took Texas A and m plus five and a half,
Bowling Green minus two, Ohio State minus twenty one, Arizona
plus eight and a half. I'm sorry, Kevin, I truly
am UTSA plus six and a half, and then Michigan.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
State minus one, and then I'm done. There's a lot
going on.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
There, but.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
It's hilarious because you roll through that and you say,
I'm sorry, Kevin, I truly am, and I believe you.
I really like it used to be.

Speaker 9 (01:22:48):
I want us to I wants to have a rooting
interest together, like I want us to work together on
this and we all can win.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
That's what I want.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
I know you might have a gambling addiction, Grant.

Speaker 6 (01:22:59):
I think the word is hobby.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
Are you profitable?

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:23:05):
You're profitable here, right, that's profitable.

Speaker 9 (01:23:06):
You're going to get the we can get the records.
You want the records.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
Okay, what do you think you give it? Problem? We
give us your pick on thirty nine and a half
on Friday. I'll take the under under and I assume
you're going to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Take Altbraska to cover five and a half Yep, I'm
Takingskers to win straight up.

Speaker 7 (01:23:28):
That dine is a lot bigger than I thought.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Yeah, I mean I think, I mean, I think that
Heavan's right. I think if it's in I think if
it's immemorial, it's probably Iowa minus two and a half grant.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Is this a situation where Vegas is begging you to
take Nebraska and they just know something that I was
going to come out and win by I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:23:49):
I don't really think it's like that, but because I mean,
what records are like one game apart. Maybe it's like
if Nebraska was fired.

Speaker 6 (01:23:56):
By like three points somehow. What Hey, we have we
have a system.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
We have to trust.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
There's a formula, all right. We only have so many
games in a season. We have to use them wisely.

Speaker 6 (01:24:18):
We cannot waste games.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Squeezes every every little drop of toothpaste out of that squeeze.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
I love it. I love it. That's it. Hey, if
I lose, if Nebraska loses, I need I need a
Hawk shirt and I will wear it next time I
come on the pot we can get. If Nebraska wins,
I will send all of you big red shirts. Every
single one of you will get a nice, go big
red Shirt, and we will all joined together in the

(01:24:47):
off season. Pot. That's how we did. That's we did
the NFL locker rooms.

Speaker 7 (01:24:53):
Yeah, well that's a good bet.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
T shirt bets are good bets.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Well accept that you have.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
Like a mascot head. We could instead you have those
line around.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
We do not want you think I got I think
there's a guy running around Here're not what little Red?

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
That creepy motherfucker can stay?

Speaker 7 (01:25:10):
What about one of those hats that has like the corn.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Corn the corn hats wear, I would wear that. Those
are good, the cop hats, sirs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Oh, it's always good to be on my man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
As everybody listen, we hope you enjoyed the episode Black Friday,
enjoy your Thanksgiving, the turkey, the football game, Stay inside,
stay warm. We'll be back to recap this game on Monday.
Until then, go Hawks and don't listen to what Jay
is about to go Red.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
See you boys and girls.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
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