February 15, 2024 • 53 mins
Conversation on Budmayr starts at about 35 mins into the show
On tonight's show we discuss the shows brief attempt at getting Walkons the restaurant to sponsor the show, and the recent poll we ran on Twitter to help prod at Kevin to take over with more mic time on the show. We discuss the optics of the Kelce/Swift relationship and some of Kelce's sponsors in relation to drawing attention to the NFL and other causes. We break down the Super Bowl, talking about the punt return mishap, Kittle's lack of targets and usage, and the 9ers not running the ball in the second half. Leonhard was hired by the broncos and and some teams odds for '25. Then we mull over the idea of the Super Bowl happening in Vegas every single year. We discuss 5k sub ideas, and guessing Kevin's salary. We then get into the Budmayr hire for the Iowa WR coach position. The immediate negativity surrounding the hire on social media and why people aren't happy.. does a guy need to have played/coached a position to be credible? How easy is it as a football guy to adapt and learn to teach a position at a high level? Was this a lazy hire by simply elevating someone within the program? And does this guy deserve the negativity when he hasn't even gotten a chance to prove himself yet? We finish by touching on the scoring record that Caitlin will break the day this pod releases, and if we would sell our hypothetical floor tickets to this game..
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(00:00):
A lot of people are gonna betuning in for the John Budmeyer conversation.
We start that discussion around the thirtyfive minute mark and that kind of plays
out the second half. On thefirst half, we talk about the Super
Bowl, Should it be in Vegasevery single year? Why was Kittle not
more involved? Should Kevin talk moreon the podcast? And is the Chiefs
fatigue starting to set in? Let'stalk about it, Let's have a day,
(00:23):
Let's go. That's are true,that's your stats. You're right.
(00:55):
Welcome into the to the washerupwalk Onspodcast slowly becoming just the Washup walk On
pod? Is dying or dying Grant? I don't think so's it's going to
become the washed Up walk On andthe intern walk On an intern podcast?
Well, I hope at that pointit's former intern current different title. Oh
yeah, if it came to that, which I don't think it will,
(01:19):
but if it did come to that, I would hope to be. I
kind of hope it does. Ikind of hope it does. I think
we think we can get Kevin andDrake to sell their good buy them out
of their portion of the company,give that to you, and then you
and I then I finally have somebodywho could go, who could go full
time with me. We could goall in and just do this. Yeah,
(01:40):
I guess also at some point thoughthen it doesn't it's not the same
show anymore. Then it's just somethingcompletely different. It certainly would be a
different show. Yeah, it wouldbe the I've been thinking for a long
time, and we might even dothis anyway eventually. But you know,
a good rebrand is always helpful forcompanies sometimes, like a new logo.
(02:01):
Well, we kind of did anew logo last year with the with the
words not just the w W withthe football arrow in the middle, but
shifting it from the washed up walkOns, which would still maybe be the
title of like the company, It'sobvious it's the title of the llc uh
(02:23):
maybe what we'd put our name onthings as. But turn the podcast into
just the walk On Podcast, andthat's just the same format, just just
the name. It kind of professionalizes. That makes the name a little bit
more succinct, a little bit morepoppy. Are you going? Are you
(02:44):
gonna get sued by walk On's therestaurant? I don't think so, unless
they have a podcast called the walkOn Podcast. I actually reached out to
that guy. Do you know thestory behind that? No? So the
walk on the walk on, Uh, what's it called? Like something bistro?
(03:04):
Uh? Let me is a stretch, isn't it? Like to my
understands, it was TGI Fridays butfootball themed. I think it's TGI Fridays
but like Cajun themed. And Ibelieve that they're opening or more recently they
like bought land in Nebraska and Kansasand Iowa. I'm pretty sure they were
expanding into the Midwest. Oh,it is a b stroke, My apologies
(03:27):
bistro with instead of like oh atthe end, it's uh, it's l
s U styles. Yeah, auyep, yep, yep, yep,
yep. So that chain was startedby an LSU basketball walk on checks out
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just you know, you're token whitedude, not sure you played at all,
but has been very successful in thebistro business. You know what it's
Sometimes hoops isn't for everyone. Sometimesyou gotta go bistro. The hoops to
bistro pipeline is a common one.I guess, uh down there in the
(04:10):
South. So I reached so obviouslywe started this brand. It became a
thing and then like a couple ofyears in I started to like see advertisements.
I think they had a I thinkthey had a bowl game. I
think they sponsored a bull game.Really yeah, I'm pretty sure the walk
Ons Bowl Game was a thing,And you know, I feel like I
remember that now. Yeah, Andthis was like and they were they maybe
(04:33):
even had like a Super Bowl ador something something crazy, like something very
national and popular a few years ago. And people kept like saying like,
hey, you need to Wow,you need to uh, you need you
need to get these guys out asa sponsor. And so I I DM
the guy on Twitter and he's youknow, he didn't have like some millions
(04:54):
of followers, Like I think hehas like maybe seven or nine thousand followers.
So it's it's not like his dmare flooded, right, And I'm
like, hey, I think there'spotential here to have like a pretty cool
sponsorship opportunity. The problem is isthat it would make zero sense for them
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to sponsor us because ninety percent ofthe people who listen to this podcast don't
live within five hundred miles of awalk On spistro. Oh it's only in
the South. You could pull upthe map I'm sure of their locations.
They're not close to Iowa. Shoot, oh it was the Independence Bowl in
twenty nineteen they sponsored. Because Yeah, it's still larious. Kevin, Welcome
(05:39):
to the show. Hey, what'sup, guys? How you doing?
I'm doing just sign Sorry, sorryI'm late. Oh you're good. Do
we have a fun from Yeah?Do we have turn signal? keV?
Do we have business dinner? keV? What do we have tonight? We
have walking down the street, keV? I am what the out out of
(06:01):
out of the state right now?Oh? Interesting out west mysterious, mysterious.
Yes, I like it. Anythoughts on uh, any thoughts on
the poll that we ran on ouron our twitter Kevin that I can pull
it up here. Uh came in. Results are that forty over forty percent
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of people think that Kevin Ward shouldbe the one to speak the most on
this podcast forty point eight percent.You know what I take from that is
sixty percent don't want me to speakthe most. So I'm going to honor
the wishes of those sixty percent.That is, well, according to your
logic that this should be a mutehour, Yeah, no one, no
(06:47):
one should. Yeah. According toaccording to out p that's prior for the
best, Grant, that's Priede forthe best. We should probably pack up
this podcast and go home. Wealmost got a thousand people to vote on
the pull, and by that logic, over eighty percent don't think that me
or Grant should be the be thefirst ones to uh or be the most
(07:12):
to speak. Drake came in atsecond at twenty one point six percent,
then Me at nineteen, then Grantat eighteen point six. I want you
to know I voted for you.That's crazy because I voted for you,
Kevin. I voted for Grant aswell, so the date it might be
in fact that Tyler voted for himself. No, I voted for Grant.
(07:32):
I swear to god, I don'tbe a second. How do you I
wish I could show it. Icould show literally who I voted for.
Kevin didn't like that. On Twitter, he arked, someone was like,
yes, this is what we need, and Kevin responded with like a like
this is not like I'm good somekind of meme like shaking their head or
something. Anyway, Happy Valandie Valentine'sDay, Kevin, Oh, thanks man,
(07:59):
did you time? Yeah? Yeah, I'd say so I'm wearing pink
for the show today. Did youby chance see the repost from last year
the little Valentine's card that I postedto our Twitter and Instagram? Oh?
Yeah, that's always a classic.That's uh was that year the first time
we ran that one? I thinkit was last year, and I'm going
to make it a an annual thing, although the design of the card might
(08:24):
it might upgrade in future years.I think that the ku Lick my Nuts
is a great little it's very it'sit's punchy to the point. I think
if you give that year, Ithink we need updated Drake on there.
He don't look like that no more. You're right, I made it.
I think a twenty twenty four versionof Drake with the long hair, the
(08:45):
the facial hair would be uh,a little more fitting. I think,
yeah, I think it's right tothe point. I think you know you're
any anybody you give that Valentine's cardtoo, they're going to understand what you're
looking for and romantic honestly in myin my view, but who knows.
Uh, not too many topics heretonight. The poll was one of them.
(09:09):
Shout out to everybody tuning in forus through a whole three minutes.
Yeah, I got us through threeminutes. Super Bowl recap and John Budmeyer
being hired as a wide receiver coach. Those are our two big topics today.
Uh So, I'll probably direct youguys to whatever moment this pod,
This uh minute mark is in thepodcast if you want to hear the real
(09:31):
stuff, Grant Kevin, either oneof you can go. Super Bowl thoughts.
The Chiefs are back to back championsIs it rigged by the government?
Is this a is it scripted?What do we think? Are they just
great? I mean the whole TaylorSwift narrative. Yeah, it's probably It's
(09:54):
probably rigged at some point. Yeah, yeah, it's rigged. Yeah,
it definitely feels a little bit.With Travis being uh sponsored by Pfizer,
feels a little bit. I don'tknow, I can I share the NFL
really wants to sell a storyline.They should have Taylor st state some new
football player next year on different teamthat would be, and then the Chiefs
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will play that team in the SuperBowl next year. Oh wow, wow,
the NFO should hire you right now? Yeah? Kat wait, I
mean is that where you are Kevin? Are you writing the script for twenty
twenty four, twenty five. Youknow, I'm not going to confirm nor
to design that say, but oh, that's that's breaking news. Can I
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share a stat though, Yeah.Absolutely. In the past three Super Bowls
the Chiefs have been in, therehave been zero holding calls on the Chiefs.
Oh, and there's a lot ofevidence on it, and there is.
I'm just you know, look,draw your own conclusions. There's some
videos out there that it looks alittle bit like holding. You know,
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there's some implications. I'm just gonnasay it, right, I saw the
one on Bosa. It's not good. That was bad. Oh. I
think I think we have elevator Kevin. Right now, I'm so losts as
to what's happening, which is probablywhy he's not responding. It's okay,
zero holding calls in three dude.You know how hard it is to go
three games without a holding penalty ingeneral? And it's the Soupye, it's
(11:26):
the it's the Granddaddy. How areyou going to go three? I mean,
draw your own conclusions, but yourown conclusions. I'm just I.
All I'm doing is presenting a fact. I Kevin, I I don't know
if are you there. Yeah,I'm here. What's up? I assume
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you watched the full Super Bowl?I did? Yeah? How much?
How much do you cringe? Therewas an Iowa moment on the punt return
where it hit the guy's foot.That happened to us at Penn State this
past year. If not, let'snot pretend like that would have changed the
outcome of that game. Well no, but it doesn't make it suck any
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less. As a former guy onthe punt return unit, can I can
we get some insight on how onhow that should be played? How how
a guy's supposed to get out ofthat situation. How hard is it to
realize where the ball is in theair and get away from it? Well,
I mean usually unless it's like criticallyshort. I don't you know,
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the punt returner is not making thatcall until he realizes he can't get to
it. Right, So the guyprobably got late. No, again,
this was sick at the Super Bowl, right, like fans are going crazy.
It's loud, It's in an indoorstadium. It's very possible that that
guy never even heard that call.Part returner can be screaming as loud as
he wants to. This toss ofthe guy never heard that call. Probably
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Unfortunately sometimes that right, Like,sometimes you do get a Peter call,
right, and the thing is youdon't know what all is that, So
you could think you're getting out ofthe way and you're moving right into the
past, right, It's like it'svery hard to identify where that ball is
at. So, I mean,that's a tough play. That's uh something
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I don't really fault the uh theuh the return team for in that situation.
You know, there are some whereit's a little bit more blatant that
somebody wasn't listening, but that one'sjust a shit happens kind of play.
The best scenario on a Peter callreally is just to run to the out
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of bounds like because then if youcan get out of bounds, then it
hits like at least it doesn't matterat that point. But yeah, it's
kind of unfortunately that was like inthe middle of the field and out of
bounds around. But yes, wewere taught that if if you hear Peter
in your new sideline, just geta bounced Yeah, yeah, what do
we think about? And this ismore for you. keV again on DHD
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yesterday, anybody who joined me inGrant and Drake for that one. Drake
is I mean shout out to theguy for being potentially the most loyal I
mean he's like a dog. Heis like a dog. He's the most
loyal person ipe I know, butloyal to a fault. Maybe he blames
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entirely the loss for the forty nineers on Kyle Shanahan and more specifically not
getting George Kittle the football. Imean, they went to overtime, So
I wouldn't exactly say that the lackof George Kittle catches was the reason they
lost. Would I would like tosee George Kittle involved in the game plan
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a little more certainly. I mean, it's an all pro tight end in
the NFL, like you got,you have all these weapons, you should
probably use them. But is thatthe sole reason why they lost? I
would say that would be uh no, But yeah, I tried to bring
up like the fact that like theother team also has some some part in
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taking him away, Like who knows, maybe that was one of their main
focuses, Like we're not going tolet Kittle bully us on offense, you
know, by doing what he does. I don't know, and also Brock
Purdy has to throw him the ballto get him like for him to get
catches. So I'm sure there's afew plays, maybe more than a few
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plays where you could go back tothat Super Bowl if you're watching the All
twenty two film and say, oh, Brock could have thrown it to Kittle
on this one. He just decidedto go to Ayuk or somebody else.
I don't know it, you know, Drake. I would argue that the
bigger point was coming out of thatsecond half is well, and they couldn't
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get the ball move and it seemedlike they lean on the run game as
much as they should have coming likeinto a third quarter. I would say
that was kind of you know,my hindsight twenty twenty deal is probably could
have come out of the half runningball a little bit more and not let
Casey get back in the game asquickly as they paid. Yeah. Uh,
(16:17):
Patrick Mahomes happens to be very goodat football too, by the way,
like a little bit. Yeah,I know it's the sore subject for
you, Grant, because it's aninterdivisional thing, which by the way,
Broncos hired Jim Leonard. I sawvery good news to me. Do you
hear about that, keV he's agreat coach. No, but he's the
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DC or what I believe DB's coach. Yeah, yeah, that's a good
high. I mean, the guyknows how coach football. It seems like
a pretty good, pretty decent defensivemind. So you'd think that he,
uh, he would know what he'sdoing. So Riley Moss now going to
be under the tutelage of Jim Leonard. Just fun to see. Yeah,
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No, I think it's a Ithink it's a great higher for the Broncos
Super Bowl twenty twenty five. Itold you maximum value right now, go
put your futures in all right,little heads up? What are our odds
for twenty twenty five Super Bowl rightnow? I think it's one hundred and
fifty one to one something like thatfor the Broncos. Really, Oh,
it's yeah, we don't know whoa quarterback is right now as well,
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like it's going to change. Brothere's thirty teams, thirty two teams in
the league. You're one hundred andfifty one to one. Well wait till
you see the Panthers odds, becauseit's much worse. Is that one thousand
to one. I think there's it'snot like we're like the Broncos were a
five hundred ball club last year.It's not like we're taking the one in
sixteen teams with he's going to havelike the first overall draft pick. I
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mean, yeah, I think,like I said, I think there's a
lot up in the air kind ofwith the Broncos right now. But well,
it's also too like realistically, whenyou go when you went to this
season, how many teams did youthink we're gonna win the Super could win
the Super Bowl? Maybe six?Like four? Five? You're right,
But I mean, but like itis pro it is like it's the NFL.
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Everyone's really good. But it's alsolike I didn't think the Cardinals were
gonna win the Super Bowl this year. I think the best part about the
NFL is the the gap from thebest team to the worst team, especially
in the regular season, is likepretty thin. Oh yeah, comparatively to
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a lot of other sports, definitelycollege football, right like for sure,
Well yeah, I mean, youhave the best team in the NFL playing
the worst team in the NFL spreadsusually within two touchdowns. Yeah, it's
it's rarely outside of like twelve orthirteen points, which is really fun because
then you get games where you knowa bad team could beat a generally good
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team and nobody really freaks out toomuch because they're just like, well,
yeah, there's you've got the topfifteen hundred NFL football players, like best
in the world. Like there's goingto be a day where one team that's
not so great has their day andtheir guys just go off because they're also
elite athletes. But like compare thatto like when Alabama plays like Chattanooga,
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and it's like there's just nothing thatcould possibly happen today, Like they would
have to run their bus off ofthe side of the road for Alabama to
not win by three touchdowns here,Like, I gotta put some respect on
Chattanooga. I don't think I do. What did they do last year something
that's for sure? They definitely theydefinitely played at least twelve football games.
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We know that they participated. Weknow that keV maybe a topic that's closer
to your heart. I saw Ikeactually tweet about this. He's not very
active on the on the on theX platform, but he responded to somebody
I had this thought as well,with how much. And I don't know
how much U coverage you saw outof Vegas. Obviously, it's it's a
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it's a hub, it's a mecca. Everybody, no matter where the super
Bowl is, everybody in the sportsworld sort of converges down on that place
for two weeks and it becomes justa content city and there's coverage of every
team. Every player has a storywritten about them. But Vegas. For
the first time, it almost seemslike the Super Bowl should just be in
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Vegas every year. Like that's whatit felt like to me. I mean,
I wouldn't be terribly opposed to thatidea, right, I mean,
brand new stadium, it's brand newstadium. It's like entertainment capital of America,
and like they just know how toput on a show in Vegas,
right Yeah. I mean it's reallynot a terrible idea. I like that
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it tours around though. I likethat. I'm with you, Grant,
like, I think I'd still leanon moving it from city to city,
just like the Final Four moved citiesall the time. I think that's that's
it's good for the sport. Butif you had to choose one city,
Vegas would definitely be in the topthree. It would have to be,
right. I mean, I thinkhere's the other factor. I guess,
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No, they don't do. Theydon't they do super Bowls in outdoor stadiums,
right, yeah, but for Miami, like it's all the South though,
Yeah, well they actually they justdid. They didn't MetLife not that
long ago. I think they did. I think they for the most part
try to stay away from like acold super Bowl though. Yeah. Yeah,
for some reason, they don't wantweather to be a factor in in
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the super Bowl. Well, yeah, they have the entertainment and money they
don't want they don't want Buffalo tohave it. And there's gonna be six
inches of snow on the ground.They're gonna be like a nine to seven
ball game. They want tough torun usher out there as well with the
nine the ground. Other than NewYork too, should you imagine him taking
his shirt off, it's like MICUsseven. Well, those rollerblades aren't working
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on ice. That's wow, that'dbe tough. Uh. For the most
part, other than New York andBoston, Ish, you're not really looking
at a whole lot of like majormarkets to like host this, you know,
super Bowl Week and all that medialike to do that in Green Bay.
There's not a lot to hould youto Green Bay other than if they
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were to have the Super Bowl andLambeau, which would be sick for the
game. But what is everybody goingto be doing for the ten days that
they're there ahead of time? Youknow? It's like they want to they
want to make like a week longevent out of the Super Bowl. Yeah,
I mean the city that hosted istrying to make upwards of billions of
dollars on that on that timeframe.So uh, I mean, I don't
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know, watching Will Compton and TaylorLewan gamble and play blackjack with Thom Sakura
and Burt Kreischer and all those guyson like the podcast this past week,
Like Vegas provided a pretty good spotfor entertainment outside of the football content.
So I was a big, bigfence. So does like I mean,
they go to New Orleans all thetime. Like, It's not like there's
nothing to do in New Orleans nextyear, right, Yeah, the super
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Dome, yep, New Orleans isa popular location. I imagine that LA
will get it pretty frequently moving forwardwith so far, Yeah, for sure,
I think they're just going pretty muchback and forth between New Orleans,
Miami, l A. And thennow probably Vegas as well. I think
those are four they had in Tampawhen when the Bucks went in Tampa was
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was the host city? Right theydid? Yeah, probably did have a
handful of years ago. Yeah,Minnesota had it very recently they had it
in because I remember Minnesota got tothe I think they got to the NFC
Championship game and I was like,Oh, shoot, they're going to play
their own stadium. That's super cool. Uh. I don't remember what year
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that was though, I don't know. I like those four CDs for it
though. I want to take aquick second to everybody listening to follow us
on the TikTok follow us on theYouTube. YouTube's going crazy. Not sure
what happened. We caught the algorithm. George going to the Super Bowl and
getting a lot of media attention thesepast few weeks definitely helped. But the
(24:14):
George Barne Jim tour is up tolike, I don't know, it's chasing
fifty thousand views I think, right, Grant and uh like that. Yeah,
the Joe Evans podcast on YouTube isupwards of five thousand views. Petris
episode doing well two, So thankyou guys. We were just at the
turn of the year begging for threethousand subscribers. We're trying to push towards
(24:37):
like thirty five hundred. Now thatfive thousand that Grant you joked about,
I don't know, like, Idon't joke six months ago you were.
It's we're coming for it. HI just I like setting I like setting
high goals the Instagram and this ismostly thanks to Grant. Also just crossed
four thousand followers, so that's huge. And uh, cav I know you.
(24:59):
You sent me a message on theInstagram that you know we're making like
one hundred dollars a month on onYouTube now, so we are Oh that
was I thought that was accumulative.No no, no, no, no,
that's one hundred. It was onehundred and nine dollars a month.
Uh, is what we're averaging overthe last twenty eight days, So that
you know, twelve hundred dollars ayear off off our YouTube. We're gonna
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get Grant to post the clips ofour our our clips that we put out
onto the shorts, so that shouldbring in a small amount of revenue as
well. So we're just you know, slowly climbing to the point where you
can retire from Striker and we couldjust podcast full time, build the studio
out, you know, do thewhole thing. Men. Yeah, we're
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only like, uh half of onepercent of the way there, but that
works? Is that a Was thata Kevin's salary reveal we just did?
No? I don't think. Ithink. I think he also knows.
Let me do the math. Ijust kidding. Kevin's carry the one.
I mean, we make one hundredand fifty thousand times more than what we
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made that month. And yeah,we're good. Let's get those comments,
go and drive the algorithm. Guesshow much Kevin mixed down below. If
someone guesses the exact number of myW two, I'll post it. Okay,
maybe maybe don't guess that post belowexactly what you think kevin salary is
(26:29):
to the dollar? How make usto the cent? To the cent?
All right? Yeah? Because whoknows? Maybe maybe you made some change
on the dollar. Who knows?Uh, I will say this. There
was one guy who grant your suggestionwas comment below on the last video.
What should klover have to do ifwe hit five thousand subscribers? Yes,
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there was only one person who reallyput out legitimate challenge, and it was
a five thousand calorie challenge, andhis suggestion for the calories were either five
thousand calories of Jack's pizza, fivethousand dollars of crumble, or five thousand
dollars five thousand calories of Crumble orfive thousand calories of Jenny's ice cream.
You see. Here's my thing isthat the two problems. One, I
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think you're gonna like that too much. I don't hate it. And then
two is that I think it's gonnabe hard to like. Are we just
gonna film a four hour video you'rejust eating? Oh? Yeah, I
would like I'd get on here andI'd live stream it. Oh you would
just live stream okay, I'd livestream it to the to the YouTube channel.
I don't know if you want tolike now it turns into like ASMR
if you just drinking ice cream,kind of gross, but it's slur slur.
(27:41):
Actually we're gonna lose subscribers, sothe pizza would be really hard.
I think a Jack's pizza is somewherearound like fifteen hundred calories, so I
would have to eat over three fullJacks pizzas. Uh, that that would
hurt. However, five pints ofJenny's ice cream, and let actually like
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four pints, maybe four and ahalf pints of some of the flavors of
Jenny's ice cream. I don't thinkI would struggle with that even a little
bit. And I and that mightsound aggressive to some of the listeners,
but I've talked about my ability toeat ice cream before the time where I
slug down half a gallon of Oreomilkshake in seven minutes. It could be
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done. So now do you turnit into five thousand calories plus five k
so you have to go run afterwards. I got to run three miles afterwards.
That that would hurt. That wouldhurt really bad. Oh god,
I mean we could do it.It's gonna be harder to live stream the
running part, but I guess youcould. We could flip to uh I
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could I don't know. I don'tknow what I could have you come out
to the mongrant and you could likedrive the car next to me as I
ran the three now and then Iand then I crashed because I'm looking out
the window and said it in frontof me. Yeah, you run me
over. As we try to makea turn. Yeah, so I five
five K calories. That's one idea. Maybe some other ideas. Maybe we
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can bounce some around, we canbrainstorm, we can pros and cons some
things. I don't know. Iwas I thought you were just gonna do
like, oh, T shirt giveawayor something. That's what I had in
mind. I don't want this tobe painful to me. I think it
should benefit the listeners and the followers. But yeah, that's what I was
picturing. It's like, oh,if we get to five k, I'll
do I'll give her something away.Five thousand. We're not We're definitely not
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going to give away five thousand dollarsin merchandise. Can we give away?
Gosh? I could think of something. You got an idea, keV.
No, this is not my reportee, the marketing and social media management not
not Kevin spot All right, well, well we'll keep workshopping that Super Bowl
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Chiefs win again. I will say, I think I think I'm sort of
in the in the bandwagon or theboat of the Chiefs are getting that just
a little bit. I'm over it. You know. The bandwagon would be
the opposite. That would be likeyou buying a Chiefs jersey and you grow
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out and Andy Reid mustache. Isuppose you're right. I do like Andy
Reid. I like Andy Reid alot, and I don't really have like,
well, I don't have anything againstPatrick Mahomes other than the weird ways
that he walks on and off thefield and like walks around like he's just
got his nails done or something.It's very odd. He's some odd sort
of weird demeanor. Kelsey I bothlove and hate, which is sort of
(30:48):
a lot of polarizing figures and sportsare like that. He's he's very much
so has like the d bag genein him, but he's also like,
I mean, we we were downwith him at tight En you like he's
a he's a brush, he's oneof the dude. He's a guy.
But the just the chiefs in general, like I don't I don't know.
Says something about people start winning toomuch and you're like, yeah, I'm
(31:10):
over it. I don't like oned agree. And my thing always is,
if Patrick Mahomes became of the Broncosquarterback tomorrow, I would be the
biggest Patrick Mahomes fan of all.You would have a Mahomes jersey on Yeah,
on Saturday. I'd have to deletea lot of podcasts, but I
would be the I would be thebiggest Mahomes fan of all time. It's
just the team that I really don'tlike. I have nothing with. I
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have no issue with them as people. I don't think. I don't think
Mahomes are Kelsey are bad people atall. But no, they unfortunately play
for a team I disliked very much. Yeah, that's the uh. I
feel like the case, unfortunately witheverything is that I just I don't know
why, but I just wake upand anyone that's having like remotely like a
ton of success, I just wakeup and I disliked them. That was
(31:52):
my thing with Coach k forever,Like did you do anything to me?
No, I just decided one dayI woke up when I was like eleven,
I was like, I don't likethis guy. I don't. I
don't think you're alone in that.But I don't know that I don't understand.
I guess I do understand maybe thebiological inclination towards that. It's like,
oh, somebody's somebody's figured this out, somebody's doing better than everybody else.
They why do they deserve that?Like I don't like the Warriors or
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like any like small nasty the forumsthat might come out. Kevin, I
do you feel that as well?Are you? Do you have Chiefs fatigue?
No, that's a good question,right, Like people like to see
people win until they start winning toomuch, but if they're doing it the
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right way, man, I thinkat the same time, you kind of
just got to appreciate greatness, right, I would agree. I always loved
watching Tom. It's weird because Iliked watching Tom win and it's it's not
that I don't dislike the Chiefs.I don't think. I'm definitely not a
Chiefs hater. There's a lot ofpeople out there who are, like they're
full on, like I hate theChiefs, like the Chiefs suck, they're
the current, like villain, badguy. I'm not that far. I
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just I think I like to seea variety of winners, like when it
went, what did it go?Chiefs Rams or Chief's Chiefs Bucks, Chiefs
Bucks Rams, Like three years ina row, you get three different teams.
I like that. Yeah, well, I mean it's like that for
a while. It's incredibly hard towin back to back. It's the first
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one in twenty years. I know. That's so yeah, and you know
they did it in a much differentway, like their defense is what carried
them this year. True from thecity, Hey, twenty five points all
you need to win a Super Bowl. Yeah. I think part of the
fatigue though, too, is likeregional, like where you live in Des
Moines. True, way more Chiefsfans than Erectriots fans. Right, So
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I think it's just around you morethan like you had a Boston guys around
You're probably right, You're probably right. It's a little bit of a regional
sort of location thing. Let's shiftgear here. Big news of the day,
not necessarily unexpect did I think alot of people saw this coming.
A lot of people. This iswhat they were projecting. Calton Copeland obviously
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parted ways. Io went him partedways as the wide receivers coach about a
month ago, probably at this point, and the analyst John Budmeyer, who's
been with the team for the lastyear or two, has been elevated to
the wide receivers coach. And Ipulled a little posting. Well I didn't
(34:27):
fully post in ghosts, but aftera couple comments, I was like,
I got to get out of herefrom my mental health on Twitter this afternoon
with the Bud Meyer thing, it'speople are not happy about it. They
don't like it. I could seewhy, But a lot of the people's
opinions are that he's a bad widereceivers coach and you just don't simply know
(34:47):
that yet. Is it a badhire? A questionable higher? I think
there's maybe there's a side that youcan certainly make an argument for there.
The one that comes, the onethat everybody points to, is like,
we hired a guy to coach widereceivers that has never coached or played wide
receiver before. I understand that validvalid, especially if really only if it
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turns out to be a bad situation. But I mean, we have two
really good examples on staff right nowof coaches who are doing pretty good at
positions that they never coached or playedbefore they were there. In Coach Wallace
as a linebacker's coach. He wasa wide receiver in college. And Abdul
Hodge, linebacker went across the balljust like Coach Wallace, and he coaches
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tight ends now. So, Kevin, my question to you is, what
do you think about that? Andwhat do you think about guys, the
concept of coaching the position you played? Do you need that at the Big
ten level? Is it? Isit good enough to just elevate a guy
on your staff or should we havegotten somebody better here? What do you
think I would echo your your kindof opinion on Like you don't need to
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play the position that you coach,like Coach Wallace is a world class linebacker's
coach, like he is highly soughtafter linebacker coach and dB at DC.
I played wide receiver in college.Right, it's like you can you And
we said this before. The abilityto coach a position and the ability to
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play position are not the Uh sorryI got called him. You're good.
I'll take over Kevin's making my pointhere, But grant, what do you
think from the outside, from thefan perspective of this thing? Do you?
I think I agree that you coulddefinitely criticize this higher. I think
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more so from the fact of thatwe hired from with Inn is more criticizable
in my mind than the fact thathe's I just don't buy into the hole
like he's never played or coached theposition before. And that's no, you're
good. I'm biased because I playedfor two coaches who coached special teams and
(37:17):
dealt with the specialists who didn't knowanything. Coach Coach Woods, he knows
a lot more now, but CoachWoods when he stepped into the this special
teams coach our senior year, hedidn't. There were so many times where
he was just openly like, hey, you're the guy who knows you know
(37:37):
more about snapping than I do.Coach Woods dabbled and snapping as like a
backup thing to his linebacker career inthe NFL. But he didn't know anything
about kicking. He didn't know anythingabout punting. He was just like,
you guys know the fundamentals, youguys, I'll help you. Get somebody
to help us figure this out.He would bring in Nate Cating, he
would bring in Jason Baker to helpthe punters and kickers. But he would
(38:01):
be very upfront with like, hey, I don't know specifically your skill,
but I can coach you through theposition of how you need to help our
team. And you know, maybespecial teams is a little bit more of
a unique example, but I meansame thing with Coach Wallace. I don't
know, I just it doesn't seemlike as big of a deal to me.
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The one criticism I would put outthere is it does seem like the
easy higher, like I'm not questioningcoach Farence again another bias. I love
these people on social media that arelike it just you guys are always boot
licking the coaches at IOWA, andyou guys, you can never you never
see that they do anything wrong,that they actually can make bad hires,
(38:44):
and that they do make bad decisions. It's just like, sure they can,
but we don't know if bud Meyeris a good hire or not until
the receivers have a chance to goout there and play and we see like
two years worth of production, Like, how do you judge this higher other
than just complete like conjecture of like, uh, I think he'll be a
(39:08):
bad coach because this, this andthis. It's just I don't like when
people do that. It just doesn'tmake any sense logically anyway. keV,
what were you gonna say, Yeah, sorry about that, boys, No,
I was just gonna say, coachingand playing our vastly different skill sets.
Making you good at one doesn't makeyou good at the other. I
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think we said that multiple times onthe podcast, and to your point,
Koeber about like coach woods coaching thespecialist. Being a specialist is a highly
technical position, right for the mostpart, receiver obviously there's technique and everything
(39:49):
you do on the football field,but you can you can learn very easily
how to coach the coaching points ofplaying wide receiver. It's like, as
I'm sure LeVar got to the pointwhere he is now coaching the technical aspects
of the specialist, right. Yeah, a lot of the bill need to
bring in Nate King or Jason Bakeranymore. I'm sorry he still does on
(40:10):
occasion, just because they're a greatresources they have. Why wouldn't she use
him? But you know, justlike anything else, if you are a
good communicator and a good leader,you can learn how to be a good
coach. And you know, it'sbasically like being a teacher, right,
Can you learn the material and canyou teach it to others? That's that's
(40:35):
the essence of coaching right there.So yeah, I don't care that the
guy's never played wide receiver. Hewas a quarterbacks coach. Yeah, he
was a here's a quarterback. Hewas the offensive coordinator in quarterbacks coach for
Colorado State in twenty twenty one,and then that's when he came. I
(40:58):
think for twenty two and twenty threehe has been with Eyes Iowa as like
an analyst slash like I don't know, helping with the QBS. And that's
where he takes a lot of hisheat too, is like I think he
somehow is credited with the before ColoradoState, he spent six seasons at Wisconsin,
So the final three he was quarterbackscoach quality control in sixteen and seventeen
(41:21):
and an assistant at GA in fifteenand so he knew Deacon before he left
Wisconsin. So I think he's creditedwith like getting Deacon to come to Iowa.
And then also he's attached to Deacon'sperformance and ability at the quarterback position,
which is just like okay, butlike if you go and look at
(41:42):
the quarterbacks at Wisconsin, you gottago both ways. Like if you're gonna
fault him as a quarterbacks coach oras a coach in general for Deacon's performance
and Deacon's ability, then you haveto you have to give him the credit
for recruiting and developing like Graham Mertzand who else were the other quarterbacks there?
Jack Coleen I wanted to exactly panout either, so, but they've
(42:07):
had great games. Like what I'msaying is it's not just so easy to
look at a guy's performance in agame and say, oh, yeah,
it's because of the coach, youknow, like who else? Jack.
My general point is, like theguy, the guy knows the structure of
offenses, and he can teach theexcell and o's point portion of a wide
receiver probably just right off the bat, right, there's nothing not gonna be
(42:29):
a whole lot for him to learnthere. It would just be about technical
coaching points, right, So youcan coach the excell and o's of a
quarterback, you can coach the x'sand o's of receivers, fucking the same
thing. You're you're you're teaching themhow to diagnose defenses and teaching route concepts.
It's uh, it's it's more orless the same thing, just on
(42:52):
the other side of it. Andthen I have no doubt that if you're
a good coach, you can learnthe technical points of how to coach the
position, right Yeah, And maybethat's just maybe that's yourself is a good
hire, right, And you know, people are saying that we settled for
a guy in our staff, Like, well, there's probably a reason that
(43:12):
we got him on our staff,you know, it's probably a reason that
KF won to him around in thefirst place, and probably because he thought
he was a good coach. Anda lot of people take those like analyst
positions, waiting for a coaching positionto open up, whether it's beyond that
staff or elsewhere. Right, it'sh instead of like we saw Jim Leonard,
(43:35):
Like it's that was a freaking headcoach and he took an analyst position
with the University of Illinois. Yeah, yeah, I could go down and
coach any D one double A schoolI wanted to right now. But I'm
just going to hang out here atthis staff for a year until something opens
up. That is the sitting ofmy skill set. So that's more or
less my opinion of what this hirewas. And like you, I don't
(44:00):
know if it's going to end upbeing well, no clue working out very
well. We have no idea.I don't It's just wrong. It's just
wrong to indict him on stuff thathasn't happened yet. Like, I just
don't at it, you know,can't he recruit, right, Yeah,
that's a huge part too. Ihave no idea WE remains to be seen,
(44:21):
So I just I just hate that. Uh, and maybe it's my
fault. Yeah, I put myselfin this position. Uh. Some people
are just too dense to see iton on social and they're just always going
to believe what they believe. That'sfine, but like I slash, we
the podcast can't stick up for anythingthat the program does without getting called like
(44:45):
like program apologists and boot liquors andlike Homer's bias, Like can can nothing
be positive about that? That's allI try to do, and sometimes I
do it on purpose in lieu ofwhatever this speci opinion or situation or like
news event is. I just putpositive stuff out there to be against all
(45:07):
of the negative crap that comes out, because every single time something happens like
this, it's just people are justready to jump off the cliff into the
negativity cesspool. It's like, Icannot one person just be like, well,
I don't know, maybe he willbe a good coach, Like I
don't. A lot of the peopleare just circulating and re re uh churning
(45:31):
the stuff that they've heard people onpodcasts say, or they've heard other people
on Twitter say, they're just likeI heard that we shouldn't be happy about
this, so I'm not happy thatBud Meyers are. He's just like,
create your own opinions, Like don'tI don't know that that shit gets on
my nerves? Wild ask a question, Yeah, who makes who makes this
(45:54):
decision? Does Kirk? Did KirkI pick this upgrade? Or did does
like Lester have a saying it atall? Like do you know? It's
a good question. I would haveto imagine that Lester is at least confronted
about it, you know, likeit's his offense. At the end of
the day, Kirk decides who's onhis staff. Yeah, with the one
(46:15):
exception of when his son was onhis staff because of conflicts of interest that
had to be reported to the AD. But to my knowledge, Kirk has
one autonomy of who's on his staffand he had the final say so.
And I'm sure that he had thoseconversations with with Lester along the hiring process.
(46:37):
It's like, I'm sure he wasn'tjust told this guy is going to
be your wide refuge coach. ButI'm sorry tough discussion that it would be
interesting to know the process. Imean, I think people just see it
and they in the end, peoplejust see it and they go, oh,
we took some guy who's on ourstaff who's not some sexy higher from
(46:58):
outside the program, go and getwe can go and high Like you guys
got to think like we can.Only we're only working with so much too.
Like the Iowa wide receiver position,we've dug ourselves a hole, not
just in the last few years,but like over the last twenty years.
It's just not a spot that's likea very sought after coaching job. So
(47:22):
you know, it's not like wewere gonna have, Yes, it's not
like we're gonna have the best widereceiver coaching candidates in the country lining up
for that job. It's just notgonna happen. So you got to build
it from somewhere. And in theend, call me a homer. You
would be too if you've seen whatI've seen and and got the head the
relationship with the coaches that we've had, Like I until something goes horribly bad,
(47:46):
I just trust chaof I just trustthem they know what they're doing and
the like. And then yeah,like if something like Brian happens and it
goes two three years and it's likethis isn't working out, then I'm totally
fine, even though some people willdeny that. I've said this a million
times, like, yeah, wegot to move on from Brian, but
(48:06):
like, let's let the decisions playout. We'll leave it with this.
Caitlin Clark will break the record onthe day that this podcast comes out.
She's eight points shy. I don'tthink she's ever scored less than I don't
know if she's ever scored less thanten points in a game. I think
maybe like once in her career atIowa she's had less than ten points.
Maybe not. That's pretty cool,keV. Did you see what the ticket
(48:30):
prices were in the thousands of dollars? Aren't there? I think a minimum
like sit at the very top nextto the Carver Cone stand is like five
hundred bucks and a court side seatis ten. Jez's unreal. I mean,
(48:52):
it's witnessing history, right, youcan't That's the only way to experience
it. And if you had,if you if you had two, three,
four of those court side tickets,keV, would you sell them and
then just buy buy one of thefive hundred dollars tickets at the top of
the stadium. You still are inthe building, you still witness it,
(49:14):
but you get to make quite literallya poverty salary off of selling a couple
tickets. Can you tell me doI sell how many court side tickets?
Do I get? You have fourcourt side tickets? What do you do
with them? Yeah? Yeah,absolutely sell them. Yeah I would make
Yeah, I would sell them.At heart, Grant, that's thirty five
(49:35):
thousand dollars. But why do youhave court sid tickets in the first place
if you're not going to be therefor the big moments, Like I'm assuming
if you have because this is likewatching the game. This is such an
anomaly that you have. I thinkyou have to sell them, man,
I think you have to. No. This is also coming from a young
(49:55):
person who doesn't have, like,you know enough, Like, you know,
thirty five thousand dollars is like notlife changing for me, but it
would be pretty freaking significant, youknow. I mean, like Jack Nicholson
wasn't selling his tickets when Lebron brokeit. Jack Nicholson has how much money?
Grant, I know, but it'slike it's like we're in this situation.
(50:16):
Kevin's good for four courtside tickets itsseason. Yeah, I guess you're
right. I mean you might be. I don't know. Guess below again
again, droughout that salary prediction whatit will say. I think I just
gave you a hint, right,Like forty grand still means something to me?
(50:37):
Yeah, I mean I don't know, it's crazy. I absolutely sell
tickets forty I would, I woulddo Grant's watching the game court side,
and I don't. I don't blameyou, but for me personally, think
all that. Think of all thatleg room you got with three open seats
next to you, dude, youmuch leg room I could have on the
(50:59):
couch to watch a layup go into break the record, like you know,
like we got three open seats.Sounds like you can bring a couch
if you wanted. I mean,business is also assuming you can buy the
five hundred dollars ticket right next tothe carbon cone, which honestly might be
an added benefit. Yeah, lowkey, you just reached back grab yourselft
cone. Yeah all right, Wellthat's a that's about it for us tonight.
(51:21):
Uh appreciate you hopping on keV late. Uh keep doing your thing over
there right in that twenty twenty fourto twenty twenty five NFL script. I
think you've got some great ideas,and I think, uh, comment below,
what do you want me to throwin here? Any any little pineapples
for the fans? But yeah,what needs to be in the NFL script?
And what is Kevin's salary from twentytwenty three that's going to show up
on his taxes here in a month? Sean Payne, Coach of the Year
(51:45):
PRONCOS super Bowl. You really wantjust to go just to just to throw
some out there. We already hashedout all the main themes. It's just
I want what a little wrinkles besidestorylines At this point, Josie Jewelv elected
president, can't finish season. He'selected in November enough to qualify. He's
(52:08):
not forgot about that take. Giventhe age of our presidents that we have,
Ronnie, yeah, the whole othersituation. Maybe we can get Josie
on this offseason and ask him ifhe ever wants to run for office.
I think I know the answer anyway, Thank you guys for joining us.
Not even sure what episode this isKevin salary. Your Budmeyer thoughts and NFL
(52:30):
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A lot of people are gonna betuning in for the John Budmeyer conversation.
We start that discussion around the thirtyfive minute mark and that kind of plays
out the second half. On thefirst half, we talk about the Super
Bowl, Should it be in Vegasevery single year? Why was Kittle not
more involved? Should Kevin talk moreon the podcast? And is the Chiefs
fatigue starting to set in? Let'stalk about it, Let's have a day,
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Let's go. That's are true,that's your stats. You're right.
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Welcome into the to the washerupwalk Onspodcast slowly becoming just the Washup walk On
pod? Is dying or dying Grant? I don't think so's it's going to
become the washed Up walk On andthe intern walk On an intern podcast?
Well, I hope at that pointit's former intern current different title. Oh
yeah, if it came to that, which I don't think it will,
(01:19):
but if it did come to that, I would hope to be. I
kind of hope it does. Ikind of hope it does. I think
we think we can get Kevin andDrake to sell their good buy them out
of their portion of the company,give that to you, and then you
and I then I finally have somebodywho could go, who could go full
time with me. We could goall in and just do this. Yeah,
(01:40):
I guess also at some point thoughthen it doesn't it's not the same
show anymore. Then it's just somethingcompletely different. It certainly would be a
different show. Yeah, it wouldbe the I've been thinking for a long
time, and we might even dothis anyway eventually. But you know,
a good rebrand is always helpful forcompanies sometimes, like a new logo.
(02:01):
Well, we kind of did anew logo last year with the with the
words not just the w W withthe football arrow in the middle, but
shifting it from the washed up walkOns, which would still maybe be the
title of like the company, It'sobvious it's the title of the llc uh
(02:23):
maybe what we'd put our name onthings as. But turn the podcast into
just the walk On Podcast, andthat's just the same format, just just
the name. It kind of professionalizes. That makes the name a little bit
more succinct, a little bit morepoppy. Are you going? Are you
(02:44):
gonna get sued by walk On's therestaurant? I don't think so, unless
they have a podcast called the walkOn Podcast. I actually reached out to
that guy. Do you know thestory behind that? No? So the
walk on the walk on, Uh, what's it called? Like something bistro?
(03:04):
Uh? Let me is a stretch, isn't it? Like to my
understands, it was TGI Fridays butfootball themed. I think it's TGI Fridays
but like Cajun themed. And Ibelieve that they're opening or more recently they
like bought land in Nebraska and Kansasand Iowa. I'm pretty sure they were
expanding into the Midwest. Oh,it is a b stroke, My apologies
(03:27):
bistro with instead of like oh atthe end, it's uh, it's l
s U styles. Yeah, auyep, yep, yep, yep,
yep. So that chain was startedby an LSU basketball walk on checks out
(03:49):
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but has been very successful in thebistro business. You know what it's
Sometimes hoops isn't for everyone. Sometimesyou gotta go bistro. The hoops to
bistro pipeline is a common one.I guess, uh down there in the
(04:10):
South. So I reached so obviouslywe started this brand. It became a
thing and then like a couple ofyears in I started to like see advertisements.
I think they had a I thinkthey had a bowl game. I
think they sponsored a bull game.Really yeah, I'm pretty sure the walk
Ons Bowl Game was a thing,And you know, I feel like I
remember that now. Yeah, Andthis was like and they were they maybe
(04:33):
even had like a Super Bowl ador something something crazy, like something very
national and popular a few years ago. And people kept like saying like,
hey, you need to Wow,you need to uh, you need you
need to get these guys out asa sponsor. And so I I DM
the guy on Twitter and he's youknow, he didn't have like some millions
(04:54):
of followers, Like I think hehas like maybe seven or nine thousand followers.
So it's it's not like his dmare flooded, right, And I'm
like, hey, I think there'spotential here to have like a pretty cool
sponsorship opportunity. The problem is isthat it would make zero sense for them
(05:15):
to sponsor us because ninety percent ofthe people who listen to this podcast don't
live within five hundred miles of awalk On spistro. Oh it's only in
the South. You could pull upthe map I'm sure of their locations.
They're not close to Iowa. Shoot, oh it was the Independence Bowl in
twenty nineteen they sponsored. Because Yeah, it's still larious. Kevin, Welcome
(05:39):
to the show. Hey, what'sup, guys? How you doing?
I'm doing just sign Sorry, sorryI'm late. Oh you're good. Do
we have a fun from Yeah?Do we have turn signal? keV?
Do we have business dinner? keV? What do we have tonight? We
have walking down the street, keV? I am what the out out of
(06:01):
out of the state right now?Oh? Interesting out west mysterious, mysterious.
Yes, I like it. Anythoughts on uh, any thoughts on
the poll that we ran on ouron our twitter Kevin that I can pull
it up here. Uh came in. Results are that forty over forty percent
(06:27):
of people think that Kevin Ward shouldbe the one to speak the most on
this podcast forty point eight percent.You know what I take from that is
sixty percent don't want me to speakthe most. So I'm going to honor
the wishes of those sixty percent.That is, well, according to your
logic that this should be a mutehour, Yeah, no one, no
(06:47):
one should. Yeah. According toaccording to out p that's prior for the
best, Grant, that's Priede forthe best. We should probably pack up
this podcast and go home. Wealmost got a thousand people to vote on
the pull, and by that logic, over eighty percent don't think that me
or Grant should be the be thefirst ones to uh or be the most
(07:12):
to speak. Drake came in atsecond at twenty one point six percent,
then Me at nineteen, then Grantat eighteen point six. I want you
to know I voted for you.That's crazy because I voted for you,
Kevin. I voted for Grant aswell, so the date it might be
in fact that Tyler voted for himself. No, I voted for Grant.
(07:32):
I swear to god, I don'tbe a second. How do you I
wish I could show it. Icould show literally who I voted for.
Kevin didn't like that. On Twitter, he arked, someone was like,
yes, this is what we need, and Kevin responded with like a like
this is not like I'm good somekind of meme like shaking their head or
something. Anyway, Happy Valandie Valentine'sDay, Kevin, Oh, thanks man,
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did you time? Yeah? Yeah, I'd say so I'm wearing pink
for the show today. Did youby chance see the repost from last year
the little Valentine's card that I postedto our Twitter and Instagram? Oh?
Yeah, that's always a classic.That's uh was that year the first time
we ran that one? I thinkit was last year, and I'm going
to make it a an annual thing, although the design of the card might
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it might upgrade in future years.I think that the ku Lick my Nuts
is a great little it's very it'sit's punchy to the point. I think
if you give that year, Ithink we need updated Drake on there.
He don't look like that no more. You're right, I made it.
I think a twenty twenty four versionof Drake with the long hair, the
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the facial hair would be uh,a little more fitting. I think,
yeah, I think it's right tothe point. I think you know you're
any anybody you give that Valentine's cardtoo, they're going to understand what you're
looking for and romantic honestly in myin my view, but who knows.
Uh, not too many topics heretonight. The poll was one of them.
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Shout out to everybody tuning in forus through a whole three minutes.
Yeah, I got us through threeminutes. Super Bowl recap and John Budmeyer
being hired as a wide receiver coach. Those are our two big topics today.
Uh So, I'll probably direct youguys to whatever moment this pod,
This uh minute mark is in thepodcast if you want to hear the real
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stuff, Grant Kevin, either oneof you can go. Super Bowl thoughts.
The Chiefs are back to back championsIs it rigged by the government?
Is this a is it scripted?What do we think? Are they just
great? I mean the whole TaylorSwift narrative. Yeah, it's probably It's
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probably rigged at some point. Yeah, yeah, it's rigged. Yeah,
it definitely feels a little bit.With Travis being uh sponsored by Pfizer,
feels a little bit. I don'tknow, I can I share the NFL
really wants to sell a storyline.They should have Taylor st state some new
football player next year on different teamthat would be, and then the Chiefs
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will play that team in the SuperBowl next year. Oh wow, wow,
the NFO should hire you right now? Yeah? Kat wait, I
mean is that where you are Kevin? Are you writing the script for twenty
twenty four, twenty five. Youknow, I'm not going to confirm nor
to design that say, but oh, that's that's breaking news. Can I
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share a stat though, Yeah.Absolutely. In the past three Super Bowls
the Chiefs have been in, therehave been zero holding calls on the Chiefs.
Oh, and there's a lot ofevidence on it, and there is.
I'm just you know, look,draw your own conclusions. There's some
videos out there that it looks alittle bit like holding. You know,
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there's some implications. I'm just gonnasay it, right, I saw the
one on Bosa. It's not good. That was bad. Oh. I
think I think we have elevator Kevin. Right now, I'm so losts as
to what's happening, which is probablywhy he's not responding. It's okay,
zero holding calls in three dude.You know how hard it is to go
three games without a holding penalty ingeneral? And it's the Soupye, it's
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the it's the Granddaddy. How areyou going to go three? I mean,
draw your own conclusions, but yourown conclusions. I'm just I.
All I'm doing is presenting a fact. I Kevin, I I don't know
if are you there. Yeah,I'm here. What's up? I assume
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you watched the full Super Bowl?I did? Yeah? How much?
How much do you cringe? Therewas an Iowa moment on the punt return
where it hit the guy's foot.That happened to us at Penn State this
past year. If not, let'snot pretend like that would have changed the
outcome of that game. Well no, but it doesn't make it suck any
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less. As a former guy onthe punt return unit, can I can
we get some insight on how onhow that should be played? How how
a guy's supposed to get out ofthat situation. How hard is it to
realize where the ball is in theair and get away from it? Well,
I mean usually unless it's like criticallyshort. I don't you know,
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the punt returner is not making thatcall until he realizes he can't get to
it. Right, So the guyprobably got late. No, again,
this was sick at the Super Bowl, right, like fans are going crazy.
It's loud, It's in an indoorstadium. It's very possible that that
guy never even heard that call.Part returner can be screaming as loud as
he wants to. This toss ofthe guy never heard that call. Probably
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Unfortunately sometimes that right, Like,sometimes you do get a Peter call,
right, and the thing is youdon't know what all is that, So
you could think you're getting out ofthe way and you're moving right into the
past, right, It's like it'svery hard to identify where that ball is
at. So, I mean,that's a tough play. That's uh something
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I don't really fault the uh theuh the return team for in that situation.
You know, there are some whereit's a little bit more blatant that
somebody wasn't listening, but that one'sjust a shit happens kind of play.
The best scenario on a Peter callreally is just to run to the out
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of bounds like because then if youcan get out of bounds, then it
hits like at least it doesn't matterat that point. But yeah, it's
kind of unfortunately that was like inthe middle of the field and out of
bounds around. But yes, wewere taught that if if you hear Peter
in your new sideline, just geta bounced Yeah, yeah, what do
we think about? And this ismore for you. keV again on DHD
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yesterday, anybody who joined me inGrant and Drake for that one. Drake
is I mean shout out to theguy for being potentially the most loyal I
mean he's like a dog. Heis like a dog. He's the most
loyal person ipe I know, butloyal to a fault. Maybe he blames
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entirely the loss for the forty nineers on Kyle Shanahan and more specifically not
getting George Kittle the football. Imean, they went to overtime, So
I wouldn't exactly say that the lackof George Kittle catches was the reason they
lost. Would I would like tosee George Kittle involved in the game plan
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a little more certainly. I mean, it's an all pro tight end in
the NFL, like you got,you have all these weapons, you should
probably use them. But is thatthe sole reason why they lost? I
would say that would be uh no, But yeah, I tried to bring
up like the fact that like theother team also has some some part in
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taking him away, Like who knows, maybe that was one of their main
focuses, Like we're not going tolet Kittle bully us on offense, you
know, by doing what he does. I don't know, and also Brock
Purdy has to throw him the ballto get him like for him to get
catches. So I'm sure there's afew plays, maybe more than a few
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plays where you could go back tothat Super Bowl if you're watching the All
twenty two film and say, oh, Brock could have thrown it to Kittle
on this one. He just decidedto go to Ayuk or somebody else.
I don't know it, you know, Drake. I would argue that the
bigger point was coming out of thatsecond half is well, and they couldn't
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get the ball move and it seemedlike they lean on the run game as
much as they should have coming likeinto a third quarter. I would say
that was kind of you know,my hindsight twenty twenty deal is probably could
have come out of the half runningball a little bit more and not let
Casey get back in the game asquickly as they paid. Yeah. Uh,
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Patrick Mahomes happens to be very goodat football too, by the way,
like a little bit. Yeah,I know it's the sore subject for
you, Grant, because it's aninterdivisional thing, which by the way,
Broncos hired Jim Leonard. I sawvery good news to me. Do you
hear about that, keV he's agreat coach. No, but he's the
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DC or what I believe DB's coach. Yeah, yeah, that's a good
high. I mean, the guyknows how coach football. It seems like
a pretty good, pretty decent defensivemind. So you'd think that he,
uh, he would know what he'sdoing. So Riley Moss now going to
be under the tutelage of Jim Leonard. Just fun to see. Yeah,
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No, I think it's a Ithink it's a great higher for the Broncos
Super Bowl twenty twenty five. Itold you maximum value right now, go
put your futures in all right,little heads up? What are our odds
for twenty twenty five Super Bowl rightnow? I think it's one hundred and
fifty one to one something like thatfor the Broncos. Really, Oh,
it's yeah, we don't know whoa quarterback is right now as well,
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like it's going to change. Brothere's thirty teams, thirty two teams in
the league. You're one hundred andfifty one to one. Well wait till
you see the Panthers odds, becauseit's much worse. Is that one thousand
to one. I think there's it'snot like we're like the Broncos were a
five hundred ball club last year.It's not like we're taking the one in
sixteen teams with he's going to havelike the first overall draft pick. I
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mean, yeah, I think,like I said, I think there's a
lot up in the air kind ofwith the Broncos right now. But well,
it's also too like realistically, whenyou go when you went to this
season, how many teams did youthink we're gonna win the Super could win
the Super Bowl? Maybe six?Like four? Five? You're right,
But I mean, but like itis pro it is like it's the NFL.
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Everyone's really good. But it's alsolike I didn't think the Cardinals were
gonna win the Super Bowl this year. I think the best part about the
NFL is the the gap from thebest team to the worst team, especially
in the regular season, is likepretty thin. Oh yeah, comparatively to
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a lot of other sports, definitelycollege football, right like for sure,
Well yeah, I mean, youhave the best team in the NFL playing
the worst team in the NFL spreadsusually within two touchdowns. Yeah, it's
it's rarely outside of like twelve orthirteen points, which is really fun because
then you get games where you knowa bad team could beat a generally good
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team and nobody really freaks out toomuch because they're just like, well,
yeah, there's you've got the topfifteen hundred NFL football players, like best
in the world. Like there's goingto be a day where one team that's
not so great has their day andtheir guys just go off because they're also
elite athletes. But like compare thatto like when Alabama plays like Chattanooga,
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and it's like there's just nothing thatcould possibly happen today, Like they would
have to run their bus off ofthe side of the road for Alabama to
not win by three touchdowns here,Like, I gotta put some respect on
Chattanooga. I don't think I do. What did they do last year something
that's for sure? They definitely theydefinitely played at least twelve football games.
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We know that they participated. Weknow that keV maybe a topic that's closer
to your heart. I saw Ikeactually tweet about this. He's not very
active on the on the on theX platform, but he responded to somebody
I had this thought as well,with how much. And I don't know
how much U coverage you saw outof Vegas. Obviously, it's it's a
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it's a hub, it's a mecca. Everybody, no matter where the super
Bowl is, everybody in the sportsworld sort of converges down on that place
for two weeks and it becomes justa content city and there's coverage of every
team. Every player has a storywritten about them. But Vegas. For
the first time, it almost seemslike the Super Bowl should just be in
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Vegas every year. Like that's whatit felt like to me. I mean,
I wouldn't be terribly opposed to thatidea, right, I mean,
brand new stadium, it's brand newstadium. It's like entertainment capital of America,
and like they just know how toput on a show in Vegas,
right Yeah. I mean it's reallynot a terrible idea. I like that
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it tours around though. I likethat. I'm with you, Grant,
like, I think I'd still leanon moving it from city to city,
just like the Final Four moved citiesall the time. I think that's that's
it's good for the sport. Butif you had to choose one city,
Vegas would definitely be in the topthree. It would have to be,
right. I mean, I thinkhere's the other factor. I guess,
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No, they don't do. Theydon't they do super Bowls in outdoor stadiums,
right, yeah, but for Miami, like it's all the South though,
Yeah, well they actually they justdid. They didn't MetLife not that
long ago. I think they did. I think they for the most part
try to stay away from like acold super Bowl though. Yeah. Yeah,
for some reason, they don't wantweather to be a factor in in
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the super Bowl. Well, yeah, they have the entertainment and money they
don't want they don't want Buffalo tohave it. And there's gonna be six
inches of snow on the ground.They're gonna be like a nine to seven
ball game. They want tough torun usher out there as well with the
nine the ground. Other than NewYork too, should you imagine him taking
his shirt off, it's like MICUsseven. Well, those rollerblades aren't working
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on ice. That's wow, that'dbe tough. Uh. For the most
part, other than New York andBoston, Ish, you're not really looking
at a whole lot of like majormarkets to like host this, you know,
super Bowl Week and all that medialike to do that in Green Bay.
There's not a lot to hould youto Green Bay other than if they
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were to have the Super Bowl andLambeau, which would be sick for the
game. But what is everybody goingto be doing for the ten days that
they're there ahead of time? Youknow? It's like they want to they
want to make like a week longevent out of the Super Bowl. Yeah,
I mean the city that hosted istrying to make upwards of billions of
dollars on that on that timeframe.So uh, I mean, I don't
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know, watching Will Compton and TaylorLewan gamble and play blackjack with Thom Sakura
and Burt Kreischer and all those guyson like the podcast this past week,
Like Vegas provided a pretty good spotfor entertainment outside of the football content.
So I was a big, bigfence. So does like I mean,
they go to New Orleans all thetime. Like, It's not like there's
nothing to do in New Orleans nextyear, right, Yeah, the super
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Dome, yep, New Orleans isa popular location. I imagine that LA
will get it pretty frequently moving forwardwith so far, Yeah, for sure,
I think they're just going pretty muchback and forth between New Orleans,
Miami, l A. And thennow probably Vegas as well. I think
those are four they had in Tampawhen when the Bucks went in Tampa was
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was the host city? Right theydid? Yeah, probably did have a
handful of years ago. Yeah,Minnesota had it very recently they had it
in because I remember Minnesota got tothe I think they got to the NFC
Championship game and I was like,Oh, shoot, they're going to play
their own stadium. That's super cool. Uh. I don't remember what year
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that was though, I don't know. I like those four CDs for it
though. I want to take aquick second to everybody listening to follow us
on the TikTok follow us on theYouTube. YouTube's going crazy. Not sure
what happened. We caught the algorithm. George going to the Super Bowl and
getting a lot of media attention thesepast few weeks definitely helped. But the
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George Barne Jim tour is up tolike, I don't know, it's chasing
fifty thousand views I think, right, Grant and uh like that. Yeah,
the Joe Evans podcast on YouTube isupwards of five thousand views. Petris
episode doing well two, So thankyou guys. We were just at the
turn of the year begging for threethousand subscribers. We're trying to push towards
(24:37):
like thirty five hundred. Now thatfive thousand that Grant you joked about,
I don't know, like, Idon't joke six months ago you were.
It's we're coming for it. HI just I like setting I like setting
high goals the Instagram and this ismostly thanks to Grant. Also just crossed
four thousand followers, so that's huge. And uh, cav I know you.
(24:59):
You sent me a message on theInstagram that you know we're making like
one hundred dollars a month on onYouTube now, so we are Oh that
was I thought that was accumulative.No no, no, no, no,
that's one hundred. It was onehundred and nine dollars a month.
Uh, is what we're averaging overthe last twenty eight days, So that
you know, twelve hundred dollars ayear off off our YouTube. We're gonna
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get Grant to post the clips ofour our our clips that we put out
onto the shorts, so that shouldbring in a small amount of revenue as
well. So we're just you know, slowly climbing to the point where you
can retire from Striker and we couldjust podcast full time, build the studio
out, you know, do thewhole thing. Men. Yeah, we're
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only like, uh half of onepercent of the way there, but that
works? Is that a Was thata Kevin's salary reveal we just did?
No? I don't think. Ithink. I think he also knows.
Let me do the math. Ijust kidding. Kevin's carry the one.
I mean, we make one hundredand fifty thousand times more than what we
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made that month. And yeah,we're good. Let's get those comments,
go and drive the algorithm. Guesshow much Kevin mixed down below. If
someone guesses the exact number of myW two, I'll post it. Okay,
maybe maybe don't guess that post belowexactly what you think kevin salary is
(26:29):
to the dollar? How make usto the cent? To the cent?
All right? Yeah? Because whoknows? Maybe maybe you made some change
on the dollar. Who knows?Uh, I will say this. There
was one guy who grant your suggestionwas comment below on the last video.
What should klover have to do ifwe hit five thousand subscribers? Yes,
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there was only one person who reallyput out legitimate challenge, and it was
a five thousand calorie challenge, andhis suggestion for the calories were either five
thousand calories of Jack's pizza, fivethousand dollars of crumble, or five thousand
dollars five thousand calories of Crumble orfive thousand calories of Jenny's ice cream.
You see. Here's my thing isthat the two problems. One, I
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think you're gonna like that too much. I don't hate it. And then
two is that I think it's gonnabe hard to like. Are we just
gonna film a four hour video you'rejust eating? Oh? Yeah, I
would like I'd get on here andI'd live stream it. Oh you would
just live stream okay, I'd livestream it to the to the YouTube channel.
I don't know if you want tolike now it turns into like ASMR
if you just drinking ice cream,kind of gross, but it's slur slur.
(27:41):
Actually we're gonna lose subscribers, sothe pizza would be really hard.
I think a Jack's pizza is somewherearound like fifteen hundred calories, so I
would have to eat over three fullJacks pizzas. Uh, that that would
hurt. However, five pints ofJenny's ice cream, and let actually like
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four pints, maybe four and ahalf pints of some of the flavors of
Jenny's ice cream. I don't thinkI would struggle with that even a little
bit. And I and that mightsound aggressive to some of the listeners,
but I've talked about my ability toeat ice cream before the time where I
slug down half a gallon of Oreomilkshake in seven minutes. It could be
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done. So now do you turnit into five thousand calories plus five k
so you have to go run afterwards. I got to run three miles afterwards.
That that would hurt. That wouldhurt really bad. Oh god,
I mean we could do it.It's gonna be harder to live stream the
running part, but I guess youcould. We could flip to uh I
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could I don't know. I don'tknow what I could have you come out
to the mongrant and you could likedrive the car next to me as I
ran the three now and then Iand then I crashed because I'm looking out
the window and said it in frontof me. Yeah, you run me
over. As we try to makea turn. Yeah, so I five
five K calories. That's one idea. Maybe some other ideas. Maybe we
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can bounce some around, we canbrainstorm, we can pros and cons some
things. I don't know. Iwas I thought you were just gonna do
like, oh, T shirt giveawayor something. That's what I had in
mind. I don't want this tobe painful to me. I think it
should benefit the listeners and the followers. But yeah, that's what I was
picturing. It's like, oh,if we get to five k, I'll
do I'll give her something away.Five thousand. We're not We're definitely not
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going to give away five thousand dollarsin merchandise. Can we give away?
Gosh? I could think of something. You got an idea, keV.
No, this is not my reportee, the marketing and social media management not
not Kevin spot All right, well, well we'll keep workshopping that Super Bowl
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Chiefs win again. I will say, I think I think I'm sort of
in the in the bandwagon or theboat of the Chiefs are getting that just
a little bit. I'm over it. You know. The bandwagon would be
the opposite. That would be likeyou buying a Chiefs jersey and you grow
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out and Andy Reid mustache. Isuppose you're right. I do like Andy
Reid. I like Andy Reid alot, and I don't really have like,
well, I don't have anything againstPatrick Mahomes other than the weird ways
that he walks on and off thefield and like walks around like he's just
got his nails done or something.It's very odd. He's some odd sort
of weird demeanor. Kelsey I bothlove and hate, which is sort of
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a lot of polarizing figures and sportsare like that. He's he's very much
so has like the d bag genein him, but he's also like,
I mean, we we were downwith him at tight En you like he's
a he's a brush, he's oneof the dude. He's a guy.
But the just the chiefs in general, like I don't I don't know.
Says something about people start winning toomuch and you're like, yeah, I'm
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over it. I don't like oned agree. And my thing always is,
if Patrick Mahomes became of the Broncosquarterback tomorrow, I would be the
biggest Patrick Mahomes fan of all.You would have a Mahomes jersey on Yeah,
on Saturday. I'd have to deletea lot of podcasts, but I
would be the I would be thebiggest Mahomes fan of all time. It's
just the team that I really don'tlike. I have nothing with. I
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have no issue with them as people. I don't think. I don't think
Mahomes are Kelsey are bad people atall. But no, they unfortunately play
for a team I disliked very much. Yeah, that's the uh. I
feel like the case, unfortunately witheverything is that I just I don't know
why, but I just wake upand anyone that's having like remotely like a
ton of success, I just wakeup and I disliked them. That was
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my thing with Coach k forever,Like did you do anything to me?
No, I just decided one dayI woke up when I was like eleven,
I was like, I don't likethis guy. I don't. I
don't think you're alone in that.But I don't know that I don't understand.
I guess I do understand maybe thebiological inclination towards that. It's like,
oh, somebody's somebody's figured this out, somebody's doing better than everybody else.
They why do they deserve that?Like I don't like the Warriors or
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like any like small nasty the forumsthat might come out. Kevin, I
do you feel that as well?Are you? Do you have Chiefs fatigue?
No, that's a good question,right, Like people like to see
people win until they start winning toomuch, but if they're doing it the
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right way, man, I thinkat the same time, you kind of
just got to appreciate greatness, right, I would agree. I always loved
watching Tom. It's weird because Iliked watching Tom win and it's it's not
that I don't dislike the Chiefs.I don't think. I'm definitely not a
Chiefs hater. There's a lot ofpeople out there who are, like they're
full on, like I hate theChiefs, like the Chiefs suck, they're
the current, like villain, badguy. I'm not that far. I
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just I think I like to seea variety of winners, like when it
went, what did it go?Chiefs Rams or Chief's Chiefs Bucks, Chiefs
Bucks Rams, Like three years ina row, you get three different teams.
I like that. Yeah, well, I mean it's like that for
a while. It's incredibly hard towin back to back. It's the first
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one in twenty years. I know. That's so yeah, and you know
they did it in a much differentway, like their defense is what carried
them this year. True from thecity, Hey, twenty five points all
you need to win a Super Bowl. Yeah. I think part of the
fatigue though, too, is likeregional, like where you live in Des
Moines. True, way more Chiefsfans than Erectriots fans. Right, So
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I think it's just around you morethan like you had a Boston guys around
You're probably right, You're probably right. It's a little bit of a regional
sort of location thing. Let's shiftgear here. Big news of the day,
not necessarily unexpect did I think alot of people saw this coming.
A lot of people. This iswhat they were projecting. Calton Copeland obviously
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parted ways. Io went him partedways as the wide receivers coach about a
month ago, probably at this point, and the analyst John Budmeyer, who's
been with the team for the lastyear or two, has been elevated to
the wide receivers coach. And Ipulled a little posting. Well I didn't
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fully post in ghosts, but aftera couple comments, I was like,
I got to get out of herefrom my mental health on Twitter this afternoon
with the Bud Meyer thing, it'speople are not happy about it. They
don't like it. I could seewhy, But a lot of the people's
opinions are that he's a bad widereceivers coach and you just don't simply know
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that yet. Is it a badhire? A questionable higher? I think
there's maybe there's a side that youcan certainly make an argument for there.
The one that comes, the onethat everybody points to, is like,
we hired a guy to coach widereceivers that has never coached or played wide
receiver before. I understand that validvalid, especially if really only if it
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turns out to be a bad situation. But I mean, we have two
really good examples on staff right nowof coaches who are doing pretty good at
positions that they never coached or playedbefore they were there. In Coach Wallace
as a linebacker's coach. He wasa wide receiver in college. And Abdul
Hodge, linebacker went across the balljust like Coach Wallace, and he coaches
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tight ends now. So, Kevin, my question to you is, what
do you think about that? Andwhat do you think about guys, the
concept of coaching the position you played? Do you need that at the Big
ten level? Is it? Isit good enough to just elevate a guy
on your staff or should we havegotten somebody better here? What do you
think I would echo your your kindof opinion on Like you don't need to
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play the position that you coach,like Coach Wallace is a world class linebacker's
coach, like he is highly soughtafter linebacker coach and dB at DC.
I played wide receiver in college.Right, it's like you can you And
we said this before. The abilityto coach a position and the ability to
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play position are not the Uh sorryI got called him. You're good.
I'll take over Kevin's making my pointhere, But grant, what do you
think from the outside, from thefan perspective of this thing? Do you?
I think I agree that you coulddefinitely criticize this higher. I think
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more so from the fact of thatwe hired from with Inn is more criticizable
in my mind than the fact thathe's I just don't buy into the hole
like he's never played or coached theposition before. And that's no, you're
good. I'm biased because I playedfor two coaches who coached special teams and
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dealt with the specialists who didn't knowanything. Coach Coach Woods, he knows
a lot more now, but CoachWoods when he stepped into the this special
teams coach our senior year, hedidn't. There were so many times where
he was just openly like, hey, you're the guy who knows you know
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more about snapping than I do.Coach Woods dabbled and snapping as like a
backup thing to his linebacker career inthe NFL. But he didn't know anything
about kicking. He didn't know anythingabout punting. He was just like,
you guys know the fundamentals, youguys, I'll help you. Get somebody
to help us figure this out.He would bring in Nate Cating, he
would bring in Jason Baker to helpthe punters and kickers. But he would
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be very upfront with like, hey, I don't know specifically your skill,
but I can coach you through theposition of how you need to help our
team. And you know, maybespecial teams is a little bit more of
a unique example, but I meansame thing with Coach Wallace. I don't
know, I just it doesn't seemlike as big of a deal to me.
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The one criticism I would put outthere is it does seem like the
easy higher, like I'm not questioningcoach Farence again another bias. I love
these people on social media that arelike it just you guys are always boot
licking the coaches at IOWA, andyou guys, you can never you never
see that they do anything wrong,that they actually can make bad hires,
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and that they do make bad decisions. It's just like, sure they can,
but we don't know if bud Meyeris a good hire or not until
the receivers have a chance to goout there and play and we see like
two years worth of production, Like, how do you judge this higher other
than just complete like conjecture of like, uh, I think he'll be a
(39:08):
bad coach because this, this andthis. It's just I don't like when
people do that. It just doesn'tmake any sense logically anyway. keV,
what were you gonna say, Yeah, sorry about that, boys, No,
I was just gonna say, coachingand playing our vastly different skill sets.
Making you good at one doesn't makeyou good at the other. I
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think we said that multiple times onthe podcast, and to your point,
Koeber about like coach woods coaching thespecialist. Being a specialist is a highly
technical position, right for the mostpart, receiver obviously there's technique and everything
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you do on the football field,but you can you can learn very easily
how to coach the coaching points ofplaying wide receiver. It's like, as
I'm sure LeVar got to the pointwhere he is now coaching the technical aspects
of the specialist, right. Yeah, a lot of the bill need to
bring in Nate King or Jason Bakeranymore. I'm sorry he still does on
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occasion, just because they're a greatresources they have. Why wouldn't she use
him? But you know, justlike anything else, if you are a
good communicator and a good leader,you can learn how to be a good
coach. And you know, it'sbasically like being a teacher, right,
Can you learn the material and canyou teach it to others? That's that's
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the essence of coaching right there.So yeah, I don't care that the
guy's never played wide receiver. Hewas a quarterbacks coach. Yeah, he
was a here's a quarterback. Hewas the offensive coordinator in quarterbacks coach for
Colorado State in twenty twenty one,and then that's when he came. I
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think for twenty two and twenty threehe has been with Eyes Iowa as like
an analyst slash like I don't know, helping with the QBS. And that's
where he takes a lot of hisheat too, is like I think he
somehow is credited with the before ColoradoState, he spent six seasons at Wisconsin,
So the final three he was quarterbackscoach quality control in sixteen and seventeen
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and an assistant at GA in fifteenand so he knew Deacon before he left
Wisconsin. So I think he's creditedwith like getting Deacon to come to Iowa.
And then also he's attached to Deacon'sperformance and ability at the quarterback position,
which is just like okay, butlike if you go and look at
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the quarterbacks at Wisconsin, you gottago both ways. Like if you're gonna
fault him as a quarterbacks coach oras a coach in general for Deacon's performance
and Deacon's ability, then you haveto you have to give him the credit
for recruiting and developing like Graham Mertzand who else were the other quarterbacks there?
Jack Coleen I wanted to exactly panout either, so, but they've
(42:07):
had great games. Like what I'msaying is it's not just so easy to
look at a guy's performance in agame and say, oh, yeah,
it's because of the coach, youknow, like who else? Jack.
My general point is, like theguy, the guy knows the structure of
offenses, and he can teach theexcell and o's point portion of a wide
receiver probably just right off the bat, right, there's nothing not gonna be
(42:29):
a whole lot for him to learnthere. It would just be about technical
coaching points, right, So youcan coach the excell and o's of a
quarterback, you can coach the x'sand o's of receivers, fucking the same
thing. You're you're you're teaching themhow to diagnose defenses and teaching route concepts.
It's uh, it's it's more orless the same thing, just on
(42:52):
the other side of it. Andthen I have no doubt that if you're
a good coach, you can learnthe technical points of how to coach the
position, right Yeah, And maybethat's just maybe that's yourself is a good
hire, right, And you know, people are saying that we settled for
a guy in our staff, Like, well, there's probably a reason that
(43:12):
we got him on our staff,you know, it's probably a reason that
KF won to him around in thefirst place, and probably because he thought
he was a good coach. Anda lot of people take those like analyst
positions, waiting for a coaching positionto open up, whether it's beyond that
staff or elsewhere. Right, it'sh instead of like we saw Jim Leonard,
(43:35):
Like it's that was a freaking headcoach and he took an analyst position
with the University of Illinois. Yeah, yeah, I could go down and
coach any D one double A schoolI wanted to right now. But I'm
just going to hang out here atthis staff for a year until something opens
up. That is the sitting ofmy skill set. So that's more or
less my opinion of what this hirewas. And like you, I don't
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know if it's going to end upbeing well, no clue working out very
well. We have no idea.I don't It's just wrong. It's just
wrong to indict him on stuff thathasn't happened yet. Like, I just
don't at it, you know,can't he recruit, right, Yeah,
that's a huge part too. Ihave no idea WE remains to be seen,
(44:21):
So I just I just hate that. Uh, and maybe it's my
fault. Yeah, I put myselfin this position. Uh. Some people
are just too dense to see iton on social and they're just always going
to believe what they believe. That'sfine, but like I slash, we
the podcast can't stick up for anythingthat the program does without getting called like
(44:45):
like program apologists and boot liquors andlike Homer's bias, Like can can nothing
be positive about that? That's allI try to do, and sometimes I
do it on purpose in lieu ofwhatever this speci opinion or situation or like
news event is. I just putpositive stuff out there to be against all
(45:07):
of the negative crap that comes out, because every single time something happens like
this, it's just people are justready to jump off the cliff into the
negativity cesspool. It's like, Icannot one person just be like, well,
I don't know, maybe he willbe a good coach, Like I
don't. A lot of the peopleare just circulating and re re uh churning
(45:31):
the stuff that they've heard people onpodcasts say, or they've heard other people
on Twitter say, they're just likeI heard that we shouldn't be happy about
this, so I'm not happy thatBud Meyers are. He's just like,
create your own opinions, Like don'tI don't know that that shit gets on
my nerves? Wild ask a question, Yeah, who makes who makes this
(45:54):
decision? Does Kirk? Did KirkI pick this upgrade? Or did does
like Lester have a saying it atall? Like do you know? It's
a good question. I would haveto imagine that Lester is at least confronted
about it, you know, likeit's his offense. At the end of
the day, Kirk decides who's onhis staff. Yeah, with the one
(46:15):
exception of when his son was onhis staff because of conflicts of interest that
had to be reported to the AD. But to my knowledge, Kirk has
one autonomy of who's on his staffand he had the final say so.
And I'm sure that he had thoseconversations with with Lester along the hiring process.
(46:37):
It's like, I'm sure he wasn'tjust told this guy is going to
be your wide refuge coach. ButI'm sorry tough discussion that it would be
interesting to know the process. Imean, I think people just see it
and they in the end, peoplejust see it and they go, oh,
we took some guy who's on ourstaff who's not some sexy higher from
(46:58):
outside the program, go and getwe can go and high Like you guys
got to think like we can.Only we're only working with so much too.
Like the Iowa wide receiver position,we've dug ourselves a hole, not
just in the last few years,but like over the last twenty years.
It's just not a spot that's likea very sought after coaching job. So
(47:22):
you know, it's not like wewere gonna have, Yes, it's not
like we're gonna have the best widereceiver coaching candidates in the country lining up
for that job. It's just notgonna happen. So you got to build
it from somewhere. And in theend, call me a homer. You
would be too if you've seen whatI've seen and and got the head the
relationship with the coaches that we've had, Like I until something goes horribly bad,
(47:46):
I just trust chaof I just trustthem they know what they're doing and
the like. And then yeah,like if something like Brian happens and it
goes two three years and it's likethis isn't working out, then I'm totally
fine, even though some people willdeny that. I've said this a million
times, like, yeah, wegot to move on from Brian, but
(48:06):
like, let's let the decisions playout. We'll leave it with this.
Caitlin Clark will break the record onthe day that this podcast comes out.
She's eight points shy. I don'tthink she's ever scored less than I don't
know if she's ever scored less thanten points in a game. I think
maybe like once in her career atIowa she's had less than ten points.
Maybe not. That's pretty cool,keV. Did you see what the ticket
(48:30):
prices were in the thousands of dollars? Aren't there? I think a minimum
like sit at the very top nextto the Carver Cone stand is like five
hundred bucks and a court side seatis ten. Jez's unreal. I mean,
(48:52):
it's witnessing history, right, youcan't That's the only way to experience
it. And if you had,if you if you had two, three,
four of those court side tickets,keV, would you sell them and
then just buy buy one of thefive hundred dollars tickets at the top of
the stadium. You still are inthe building, you still witness it,
(49:14):
but you get to make quite literallya poverty salary off of selling a couple
tickets. Can you tell me doI sell how many court side tickets?
Do I get? You have fourcourt side tickets? What do you do
with them? Yeah? Yeah,absolutely sell them. Yeah I would make
Yeah, I would sell them.At heart, Grant, that's thirty five
(49:35):
thousand dollars. But why do youhave court sid tickets in the first place
if you're not going to be therefor the big moments, Like I'm assuming
if you have because this is likewatching the game. This is such an
anomaly that you have. I thinkyou have to sell them, man,
I think you have to. No. This is also coming from a young
(49:55):
person who doesn't have, like,you know enough, Like, you know,
thirty five thousand dollars is like notlife changing for me, but it
would be pretty freaking significant, youknow. I mean, like Jack Nicholson
wasn't selling his tickets when Lebron brokeit. Jack Nicholson has how much money?
Grant, I know, but it'slike it's like we're in this situation.
(50:16):
Kevin's good for four courtside tickets itsseason. Yeah, I guess you're
right. I mean you might be. I don't know. Guess below again
again, droughout that salary prediction whatit will say. I think I just
gave you a hint, right,Like forty grand still means something to me?
(50:37):
Yeah, I mean I don't know, it's crazy. I absolutely sell
tickets forty I would, I woulddo Grant's watching the game court side,
and I don't. I don't blameyou, but for me personally, think
all that. Think of all thatleg room you got with three open seats
next to you, dude, youmuch leg room I could have on the
(50:59):
couch to watch a layup go into break the record, like you know,
like we got three open seats.Sounds like you can bring a couch
if you wanted. I mean,business is also assuming you can buy the
five hundred dollars ticket right next tothe carbon cone, which honestly might be
an added benefit. Yeah, lowkey, you just reached back grab yourselft
cone. Yeah all right, Wellthat's a that's about it for us tonight.
(51:21):
Uh appreciate you hopping on keV late. Uh keep doing your thing over
there right in that twenty twenty fourto twenty twenty five NFL script. I
think you've got some great ideas,and I think, uh, comment below,
what do you want me to throwin here? Any any little pineapples
for the fans? But yeah,what needs to be in the NFL script?
And what is Kevin's salary from twentytwenty three that's going to show up
on his taxes here in a month? Sean Payne, Coach of the Year
(51:45):
PRONCOS super Bowl. You really wantjust to go just to just to throw
some out there. We already hashedout all the main themes. It's just
I want what a little wrinkles besidestorylines At this point, Josie Jewelv elected
president, can't finish season. He'selected in November enough to qualify. He's
(52:08):
not forgot about that take. Giventhe age of our presidents that we have,
Ronnie, yeah, the whole othersituation. Maybe we can get Josie
on this offseason and ask him ifhe ever wants to run for office.
I think I know the answer anyway, Thank you guys for joining us.
Not even sure what episode this isKevin salary. Your Budmeyer thoughts and NFL
(52:30):
script suggestions down below. Thanks again, for watching. We'll talk to you
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