@WildWayne catches up with #NewOrleans own @_LahPat aka #MrRodeo

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Episode Transcript

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Wayne coming at you. You know, I always gotta bring it to you
Live and direct the home of thesuperstars, and you just never never know
where they came from. Sometimes thoseroles is jump out the concrete and you
find out the story to be like, damn, I didn't know this artist
did this and did this and didthis the road that they took to get

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the start them. And I haveyet another one of those examples right here
today and from New Orleans, fromthe hometown. By accident, I found
out we had a much deeper RelazyShilds on the show today. I got
leve Pat was hound, what's thedeal? I ain't man? Uh,

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Now you know we have been playingthe rodeo rackety little path flow melly boom
boom boom. Like then Jack thegenuine he gonna win with it, and
he gave me. He gave mea he said it's good. Okay,
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I know.
And then I did, uh,Julie's dining fast for his wife. I
was wanted that host for the NightmareRule Jude. It was an awesome event

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uptown. I got the einerary early. It was you know all people I
knew. I said, leave Pat, okay, how that's the Yeah,
that's the dude, we're playing.Okay, I ain't think none of it.
Then my man Da wants you tocome meet love Pat all right,
little paddler battle Patler, Pattler batuh. And then I walked up and
he said, what's up? AndI'm like, okay, okay, the

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wild Wayne has proceeded me coming outof he know the game. He hadn't
done his history. Said, man, I was at your summer care for
real, Like, I don't forgetthat, that's just right. That blew
my mind. Huh. I didn'teven know you're from New Orleans, Da.
I was going to range right here. I went the elementary out here
with the middle school I had withthe high school like here. Why and

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then for you to have been inmy camp that really was just the ultimate.
Uh. It was It was ahumbling prideful moment at the same time,
because I love to see our artistslike make it to that next level
from here, because I think there'salways so many things stacked against artists from
New Orleans, even though we're culturebearers of this whole thing. We got

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the rhythm to this whole thing,We got the syncopatient to this whole thing,
and everybody is someway utilize our sound, but we don't always get what's
justly due to us. So thefact that you win in bro, it's
so impressive and you come in frommy tutelage. At some point me and
says four five, we do anannual camp. I started this camp in
two thousand just to paint the picture, uh the Wildwain't summering Experience. And

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then after Katrina me and says conamed it the Black Love Summer Experience.
Then you were in it. Rememberthat wasn't what two thousand and eight.
So how do you go from uhin the wild Way summer experience to a
budding superstar? Uh? Well,after after the summer camp, I went
to school, like here, Ihad just moved back from Houston, Okay.

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During the storm and I moved tothe West Bank and not start getting
in trouble, and I got shippedright back to Houston. Okay, okay,
Now how much trouble did you getin? I got a lot of
trouble. I didn't up. Iain't up in prison. So you did
a bit, y'all did seven?Wow? Some people never recovered for something
like that. That place that waslike what's the what's the word? Like

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it's like that hell yeah, butit was. It was more so like
of it's time to get yourself together, like this the wake up call.
Yeah, it was my second chance. I could have never got another right
because I was living bad. ButI got a second test in, you
know, at sixteen, and Iwas sixteen years old. And you know,
that story is very similar to WallStreet Trapper. I don't know if

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you're familiar with Trapp, but fromNew Orleans, mid city, tempted murder,
charge went there and took it asa time out. Let's say that's
what I did. You know,get off the streets, get off the
hustle, get off the pressure.You know what I'm saying, Because there's
a lot of pressure in New Orleans, and that get it? How you
live mentality permeates the land. Youknow, Uh, what did you do

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while you was in the bank.I went to school, okay, like
the school school. Yeah, Igot my t we got my gd I
one got some trades. I startedgetting my social degree in business management,
okay, and I wrote music allthe whole time, the whole time.
So how I want to talk aboutthe music, but so fascinating to me,
Like, so, how did youavoid the foolessness in jail? Because

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they got a lot of dumb thatgoes on in there. So over the
years, like I learned, likethe things y'all taught me, like you
know, how to control my angerand how to you know, like I
told you earlier, Like sessions alwaystell me, like being tough ain't being
cool. You're just being tough.So I ain't going up trying to be
tough. Right, I'm finding mybusiness. They know where my head was
at, you know what I mean. They seen the dudes that's in that
business, in that business. Imean they see me. I went to

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school, I came back, Isaid, joke to phone my mom's them.
I to write my music. Iwas the coldest thing on every yard,
Okay, every yard anywhere I've everbeen locked up. I was the
hardest, Like, for real,there's no cap, they're gonna vouch for
it, they gonna stamp that,you know what I mean. So everybody
wanted, like back then, likethey wanted the feature basically, like they
wanted to tap in. They wantedto be my boy. So I just

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never really had issues, and Iyou know, I stayed in my studies
like I want it. I wantit better for myself. So were you
like strictly wrapped at that time orwere you like what in the beginning,
I was strictly wrapped, I thoughtI was. Yeah, I was who
who are you? Who are you? Who would you emulate? At that
period? Um, honestly I was. I was a Wayne fan of my

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life, Okay, But in jail, dudes be rapping, you know what
I mean. So I'm like,hi, So I was like trying to
go JZ like I thought I was. But I started singing to like these
female guards and yeah, and Ididn't want to quit rapping, even though
they're like you need to sing,you need to leave on that rapper,
And I was like I don't wantto quit, you know what I mean?
So all I did was I changedthe cadus of my singing like rap,
I did chop it up real fans, real nice and smooth, right,

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but I keep that butt on it. You know what I mean,
man, Because let me tell you, I didn't know what to expect when
I started performance. I never seenyou perform right until down the fest,
but it was like it was likea hip hop meets R and B.
Right. It was rough but smoothedall at the same time. And I
heard the song a million times,but seeing you performing gave me another feel,

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right, and then you popped offthe Kama Kazi behind, which is
a banger too. But how howdid you get into the singing aspect?
Because some people were like, singingwasn't really cool if you were spitting bars
like you know what I'm saying,except for like A can't go slim,
right, who always was melodic Nellymelodic type rapper. And then moving forward,

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people like Roddy Ridge. Yeah,Drake, Drake obviously made it cooler
to be emotional. You know,he's America's best R and B singer.
In fact, Drake, they lovehim so so you adopted that. Yeah,
So like I sung in church growingup, by him. You know

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what I mean, I sung thedrugs the same time, okay, but
I want the rap. I thoughtI wanted to do the cool thing.
Yeah, I still trying to betough. I'm like, I could be
tough guy, but not be toughright now. I can't strap, you
know what I mean. But uhit was dude named Superio. I used
to be singing to the guards andI like, yeah, I've been doing
doing too much and that was bad. So they let me. They challenged

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me to everything, okay, butlet me hear. And I just like,
nah, I did joking. Imean, I was real shot,
and I mean I was really afraidof my voice. I wasn't confident in
it. I was confident in myrap. I can rap for you,
real, I mean. And shetold me, Shi, buy me a
McDonald's mill and I'm in jail,but was like, I don't seen you.
Everybody got. I'm like, look, I got to come back tomorrow.
I'm gonna propere myself. I'm gonnapumping myself up. And even when

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she got that, was still scared. Took me like ten minutes to really
sing. But I saw that poundand you're like, I suh, and
she went got other guards and peopleto come here. Oh, you had
an audience. So I was like, all right, I wasn't that good,
Like I was trying to get thefood. But then I sung again
and it was like, oh mygod, you need to get out of
here and do so like no.So so the next visit, I sung

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for my mamma. She had neverreally heard you sing since, not since
I was a kid, kid likein church. And she cried and I
was like, all right, somethingthis little bit. If I could get
all these women to get some kindof emotional film, yeah, that's pretty
good because I really shot to talkto him stuff. I've used my voice
to do it. That's dope.I mean I never stopped saying. You
know, I think the measure ofgreatness in music is if you can evoke

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emotion, right, because a lotof the little flim flam stuff that's happened
now there now it's here today andgoing tomorrow, and it's always been that
way. There's there's little trends andfads or whatever. But songs that can
evoke emotion if it's uh, ifit makes you cry, it makes you
angry, if it makes you whatever, these of the songs that at last
that really resonate with people, youknow. So that's definitely what's up.

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So when you were here in NewOrleans when you were a kid, I'm
kind of going backwards a little bit. Where did you Where did you sing?
Like? What church did you goto? I went to the Way
at Jesus Christ? Okay. Iwent to Noah's Art Okay, and know
it's like my two church nowas Arkwas like the church where I really sung
lead and you know, they knewmy name, they knew who I was,
like the head of the youth.Yeah, like that definitely. I

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was the oldest kid at the time. I was the most kind of a
kid. Like it was like Iwas into everything, right, you know
what I mean. I could playthe piano a little bit. I wasn't
just know the code, but II sung and they love that. Okay,
Okay, little John Legend over there, I was him, um.
And then what's cool did you yougo to when you were here? I
went to so the first guy everwent towards Hoffman. Okay. Then I

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was one of the first kids toever go to EGAP Horney when they open
it up, because I stay rightthere, Hardy yeah. Um. Then
after that, I went to CrockettNow that's where I started my summer camp
cry. I was the first schooluptown that I did it. Mister Giles,
big shout out, too much love. He's the only one that had
faith in what I was gonna do. And twenty years later, you know
it was it was all good.And then where you went out to Crockett,

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um, the storm happened. Andthen when I came back and oh
eight after Black Love, I wentto Live Vote Okay. Then I moved
to the West Becket. What theLiver did is the West Jim. Okay,
I moved back to Houston. Soso what was the difference like from
doing your thing here and doing yourthing in Houston? Because let me let

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me tell you why I asked.It's a lot of artists feel like I
have to move away from New Orleansto make it big. Oh. I
was a kid at that time,so it was like following my mom award.
Okay, you had no choice,an nah nah. And then this
was like you're gonna end up therelike she's always telling me, like you
just you're just not getting it,And I wasn't she even brought me like
off of Tulane by the Juvenile Centerscat. It was just I just wasn't

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raising nating because the mentality the waterwas just so messed up. Like she
should have called me and says back, man real like I was just I
was marching and everything. Okay,I used to march sports up, but
I just I just I just reallydon't. So what was it that was
so attractive about the streets that drewyou to it? This is what everybody

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was doing, Okay? It wasthe conversation though we didn't talk about nothing.
Though we didn't talk about successful basketballplay. It was just more so
no being soldier, we are assumedmaking a big score and there wasn't and
there wasn't nothing right right. Itwasn't that. I'm here to tell you
that it was the biggest live I'veever been told. Wow. So once

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you figured out that it was alie, you got past Dad, did
your time ask forward to the goodness? You know when you got into this
game, and I think you hada song that was moving around a little
bit virally and on the web calledVoodoo. Tell me about that one.
So Voodoo is when I first firstcame home right, I should go to

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Protect Park and DJ House. Hewas there. That's my dog, that's
my dog. My dog and Iused to go that every day. You
know. We used to chill withthem a boy a drink, and that
was actually how I realized how topush my music out with DJ's go chill
with him. Eventually you know myname and you know my name kind of
got the friendship that just don't beaggravating around. Ain't gonna say sometimes you

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gotta tell people like you have tobuild a relationship. You can't just be
say I got forty seven records.I needed their head. But some people
don't understand. You got a littlefinesse. Gotta have a little finesse to
get in. You gotta know thetimes to bring out to the program.
Here he'll sent me to fly itlike pop out. You know what I
mean. I go not chill withlike you know, did you got there?

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Look group that chill behind him,right, it's chill smoke Woker.
Because I was on parole. I'mgonna ank him out. I'm really bucking.
I'm really bucking my parole just tobecause he I'm I just came from
t D. I said him onthe radio. I know you somebody,
yeah yeah, and I get tobe around you, like you just sent
me to fly, So it's likeI'm invited, you know what I mean?
What you're drinking? What you youknow what I mean? Cool?
And it wouldn't be during the party. It'd be like while he packing up.

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Hey, I got the song onon to the hip feed on my
smart move, you know what Imean, right, sending to my phone.
I sent it to him next day. Next week we had Project Park.
He played, right, and Ito tell you how DJ really feel
about your real he played, Heplayed, and so were you there when
he played? No? I wasn't, And he like, where are you
at? You're supposed to be here, you know what I mean? And

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I was like, man, I'mgonna I ain't gonna buck today because I
didn't buck last week. Like,just played the song. They love it
like I'm on the way, sowhat And then and made top twenty on
the go DJ. Wow, itwas number twenty, but I wasn't in
there. You know what I'm saying. Hey, some people don't get that
list. So I was on neverget to twenty one. Yeah, I
was on there. Okay, I'mlike all right, and then what did

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you do with the record? Fromthat point, I went to Holllight,
every DJ in Houston with it,Okay, DJ and Durrance was messing with
it. He putting on his mixtape. He actually picked up two of my
songs, one called by the Way, and I just you know, I
just kept making music. But Ididn't know the business. I didn't know
how to put out my music.I didn't know how to put them on
platforms or getting to the people.So I just made one YouTube video while
all my songs in one video andput it out, you know what I

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mean. But I didn't know.I was still trying to figure it out.
Yeah, I ain't had no realguidance, you know what I mean.
But I know I could sing,I could do some music. I
can make me some music. Didyou get any radio play off of Voodoo?
Nah? Just the YouTube and Instagramor whatever. Yeah, type thing
that's a performan everywhere. Okay,So and they called on yeah, yeah,
definitely Voodoo and by the Way itwas one of and the song I

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got called Cryptonite was like some ofmy songs that were hard at Houston.
Okay, I kind up getting caughtup because I ain't you know when I'm
gonna run, right, been buckingmy monitor to be outside. But I
went outside doing nothing bad. Iswear I was out, So you got
back in. Yeah I had,so I got violated from being outside all
the time bucking my curfews. Right, But I'm getting momentum in Houston.

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I'm actually I got a movement,like you know what I mean, We're
pulling up to the club deeply.I'm on flyers, like they know my
name right now what I'm saying.And I can't go back to the jail.
So I went on a run.But the whole time I'm doing my
music, I'm not doing nothing,and just one lucky that I got pulled
though Blue On and I'm like,but I was set down fifteen months like

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at this like at this point,it's like it's the end of my sentence,
like do all this and then you'lllike I got like three months left
on parole. But that's why Iwrote Rodeo at yeah, I was like
you know this, and then Iwas like I needed to sit down,
like I needed to focus. Ineed to get back because I'm doing all
this. I'm I'm paying to performI'm doing this. I'm not getting paid

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yet, like something not resonating thatI spent all this money and I got
this nice lubus when I'm not right, So I need to do something difference,
something I write, you know whatI mean. So that was your
stop pause right there. Yeah,my team was following the part who stuff
was going bad. I needed toregroup, so I came home. I'm
like, I need to focus onme, right, I mean, everybody
started telling me, like everybody can'tcome back. You're trying to right,

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you ain't strong enough to carry allthat yet, right, And I'm like,
man, I'm gonna do it.That's my team. Yeah, it's
my boys, right right. Butyou know I had some guys who understood,
Like I had some team members thatlike the deal thing, Like I
understand I ain't had something that didnot bet too. Yeah, but that's
on new and you figure out thecream gonna ride to the town, people
gonna know who's real with it andwho is just along for the ride.

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And you don't understand. And it'snot even just my guys, this family,
you know, girlfriends. You don'tunderstand this dream. I have this
vision I got like in this road. I'm on that what it takes to
get here that we ain't living thesame thing, you know what I mean?
I want something big, and I'mpretty sure at this point you're life.
You want some big two right,let me go get that fuss,

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you know, chimmey on. Ifyou can't beat that, at least cheer
me on. Right. And Ihad some people who really did understand,
like if feminis would understand, andgrandfathers who understood. And I went,
I went do low. So theparole violation satage. Still you wrote rodeo.
Yeah, I had a humeboard nameddead. He had the night one
man called him daily basis. He'sa big jay Z fan. Like I
tell you them, that guy's gotbars, right, So he like,

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you gotta talk about something. Seeyou got a little nice livoye, but
you gotta talk about all right?You want us to talk about something like
I can remix everything. He usedto be beat me and chance it.
He used to be like freestyling tolike songs. He used to wrap oh.
I mean one time he was rapping, oh oh, looking out of
my project, freestyling like second thechorus that freestyle about beating me a chance

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looking at the project when to seehow the desire here a rap about the
desire like he was so cold.I'm like, I'm gonna remix me a
song. He's always like comparing melike you ain't genu Wine. That was
one to stay with the singers.So I started writing a song. I
couldn't finish it, but I hadthe chorus style by that I want to
feel That's how I wanted to doit already, right. I started right

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in the beginning of the verse,but I could not finish because I'm like,
what what you want? Seeing thesong? What can I I used
to show the culture like this,this one, this will re vibe into
right right, I couldn't get it. I came home. I had put
out other music. It wasn't hitting. I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna
keep it a buck. It's notall our stuff hit bro. Some of

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them just saying it right now.I take that as good criticism. I'm
going back in the studio, andthat's not the hardest thing to do.
I'm going back to the drain board. I'm an artist, and you don't
like this pain, I gotta gorepaint something cool, all right. I'm
singing a chorus on live and agirl like you needed to make that a
song? It already yeah, likeit already is, but let me go

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finish it up. Like and butthat that at that time in my life,
I was really in the dark darknessspot. I lost a lot,
you know what I'm saying. AndI was like, I wrote that like
I said in the garage, andI finished that like I said in my
bed. And I finished, I'mlike, all right, all right,
at the find the beat, youknow what I mean. So, and
I really hit up a bunch ofpeople to we make that beat from me.
So like I don't like sampling becausethey don't get clear. I'm like

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this, make um d J.Payne one, he's like a big,
big producer. Okay, hit himup. He made the beat. I
actually sent him a video of mehitting it. Dude. He took my
vocals and put it on the beatand sit it back to me like like
this, and I'm like, yeah, that's it. That's it. I
wouldn't stood the card of that.I just put it out the district kid

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like that. So how do youprogress from Voodoo had a little way?
Boom got stopped, paused, comeup with this joint, finally find a
producer that that's gonna rock with it, put it on the distroke Kid,
But how do you get from thereto the Whyweezy Show to performing week on

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the break this club. I heardit look the next morning it I heard
it on Breakfast Club. After Isell you at that, I was like,
as soon as I turned the radioon, MV was mixing a joint
in the mixing the day, Iwas like, this is crazy, crazy,
So how did you get it frombeing a thought, an idea,
finished project to getting it here andgetting a deal with three hundred. I

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recorded it, I played it onLive Feel my local friends. Yeah,
yeah, they loved it. Iwant perform that lives after DJ birthday party
and then the group to talk aboutpack got a hit that was validation enough
not No. I used to alwaysgo to people like with this record,
anyone to else? But you basicallyjust told me I got a hit,
and y'all the guys who play hits, right, so I want to perform
that. Never one TikTok picked itup. It went crazy sleim call like

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I won't work. You did thedance? No? I did, so
I just did the song I wishI wish I had both. That would
be a double whammy right there,right right. I mean, but a
couple picked up and they went crazywith it. I hit him up,
like, let's go crazy with thisbecause I can't dance. I wish I
love it, Dad, I can'tdance, but I love people who dance,

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you know what I mean. SoI'm messing with this and this is
nice now. Yeah, so I'mposting. I got my whole team,
I got everybody posting or this iswhat we're doing. This song goes with
this day right right right, that'show we're merging it. It was crazy
to live call you like I seeit, like I hear you. And
I was like, how am myuncle? How do my manager? Like?
Hey, I feel comforta right likethis? I was shot? So

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did you do it singles deal withthree hundred or is it? Or yeah?
I did a single deal? Okay? No, man, he gave
me an option up to be free, like you like you feel me You're
not comfortable because I was you knowhow we get he's skept it. I'm
like, oh no, right rightand then and they'd be like the nobody
don't want to get played yeah,but to me, I feel like it's
the biggest fault. Like that's thething. Stay independent, you can I

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know, trying to tell those thisdon't really have the money to really do
it, really do that, norto connects, nor to management the connects
the biggest So this is the thing, do smart, smart shorter deals right,
and then you work together with thelabel and build a report right because
they're gonna spend more money on youthan you got to spend anyway, and

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then you can put hopefully even getto net zero and then you make money
on the next deal. Fact that'swhere it's at. That's how all of
that are. I don't get withthem like you you would. It would
take you to play like you twentyyears to get that bread and them connection
in those relationships to get it done, and that money will be far more
than you could ever lose with adeal. I honestly believe that in time

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when you can't get time back withthree hundred, they there their their love
and relationship for me. Like thethings they put me in, the positions
they put me in, were waymuch more money, you know what I
mean. Like I'm here, I'mat home because you know what I'm saying.
They walk me in like, hey, it was that. It was
the I hear what you want to. I hear your dream told when I

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first linked with it. I won'tgo home like I mean, like I
got to right there too. Igot you just gotta be smart, that's
it because like the person that racethe contract, don't rant it for you.
That's how the world revolves. That'show business revolves. It's not just
the breacting game. It's anything,right, So I'm glad you made the

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right decision. I greatly feel likeI did it basked and then uh got
another banger sitting right behind it,like I was ever to get another banger
right, And I heard that jointat Dona Vest because that's risky sometimes to
do too much on the stage right, sometimes less it's more, but that

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joint, like people was hurrying around, how yeah there was posting it like
yeah, it looked at Scott.I know it's hot. So a lot
of people was in and I didn'tthink a lot of people was recording to
start getting attacked them Like all right, they hurt me, you know,
let me tell you the tricker rationabout that that particular event they didn't have
that many people outside because it wasblazing hot, but they could see it.

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But they had closed caps in insideclose circus. Everybody could see and
it was h D four K quality. Yeah that's why I'm so I was
getting tagged on TV like they wasrecording me on then. Yeah. Yeah,
when I thought a lot of peopledidn't see me, they did,
right. Hey. But that's justanother lesson on always put a great performance

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out because you really never know whowatching. You just never know, right,
shout out to the vine man,Yeah, my boy helped me out.
He got me right, Okay,Okay, So when when? Okay
when where? Where we're moving towards? Now? I know, uh,
you got flow million on this joint. The video is rolling and everything.

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It's almost two million views and likeless than a month or whatever, um,
and you got about fifty million interviews. I didn't know you. I
didn't know you did all those interviews. When I last to get on the
interview, I wish you was thesecond, all right, because I know
the first one, first, firstout of jail, they got me.
Okay, okay, the dream cometrue was always come over right. So

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where you're going now? Man?What's next? For you. I gotta
show, okay, see um rightnow, I'm getting ready to do the
video for Kama Kazi. Okay droppedand had already you know what I mean.
Yeah, Rodeo still ride right rightright, Yeah, I just got
to a tinking John Queez and soundsOkay, it was the tink toy.
It was the real dope, veryexperience. We went to North Carolina,

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went to Minnesota for a law ofDale Baltimore, like right, yeah,
it was like it was crazy.So so when you're a little nervous,
that's some really seasoned artists, youknow what I'm saying. Yeah, the
first show I was, but Igot like so big of a gray.
Actually it was like they know myself. It feels better when they know my
song if I'm performing. Even whenI performed Karma Kazi, I was a

(25:48):
little skeptical, but like you say, even then they was dancing right songs
like I good. Like I sayless more, I ain't gonta performed on
the other new splay right, Igot their attention. They know Rodeo and
they feel a Karma Kaza and I'mfor the dropped that So I just kept
playing a simple but I'm like yousaid, I put on a good show
with it, and I got agood response, and I actually got put
on the extra show. I won'teven own a fourt lad of delth So
they hold me like, hey,she's doing good. Who put you on

(26:11):
the last? Come on back?You know what I mean? And it
was love and I really appreciated thatlife, you know what I mean.
They let me know I'm doing agood job and I'm on the right path.
Here you are, bro, You'redoing a great tension. It makes
me proud. It made me proudto see artists from here like getting they
signed on all across the country,because sometimes artists don't never let's not just
say artists, artists and some peoplefrom the words never getting a chance to
see that to the whole big oldworld out there. Yeah, and it's

(26:33):
big and it's love. Like I'mman to get my music tagged in places
I never thought about going right right, I'm might see how to Washington.
I just know the football team likeday out that jam and like Memphis in
Atlanta, and I'm I'm being ableto go and share my gift out there
with them places and with them people. And they showed me so much.
Love feels good, Like, youknow, without incident, they'd be real
dealing with like, hey, keepit up, I'm rocking with it.

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I'm riding the rodeo with you.So what would you tell to a little
young artist out there, man tryingto find his way in the game,
Maybe got uh some some good music, whether it be R and B or
hip hop, Like, what wouldyou tell them? Maybe they should do
um. Honestly, if you ifyou, if you like really believe in

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what you have, then that's that'sthe biggest thing right there. You believe
you have to live out that dream. Like you have this dream and you
don't want to execute it, right, go execute them plays and lock in
with the DJs. Right, that'smy man, That's that's the pipeline.
That's the heartbeat on the like youcan you can have your song on social
media and it's it could become justa song, right, DJ's is the

(27:37):
heartbeat. That's who connected with thepeople. Were gonna go party with the
DJ And if I'm parted with thesame DJA all the time and he played
your record, invention is gonna I'mgonna catch home? No, I mean,
and it's it's just me, likeI alway show up to you.
Now, you ain't your twenties,right, What would you tell to a
street dude out there that's trying tofind this way? Wake up? You
getting old brother, the biggest livethat they told you that you gotta whole

(28:00):
life ahead of you. That's nottrue, right, you know, I
mean you don't You don't know yourday, you know what I mean?
So I live for today and Imake sure today it's the best day every
day. I just put my mansionfrom out the night ward on my page
and uh, like he had gothis arm shot off right. Uh.
He said the best way to playthe game is not to play the game,

(28:22):
and that fated And it truly isa game because street money is is
short quick in a fallacy like thereain't no real money, like you know,
you gotta do a lot of thingsto make money money and most people
not wired for that. And it'scrazy because I tell guys like that,
like, you know, the effortyou put into being that street dude,
You didn't just wake up like,oh, I'm the hardest street doing I'm

(28:44):
the biggest dope board. You putthat work in. You do that with
your other dreams. It happens justyou become just a successful but less harm
and let's fall, you know whatI mean. And that's what I did.
I put all that same energy intothis right here, he sleep.
This is what I do. Idon't have no outside hobbits. I might
go tell go bullet if your invitement, but if you ask me what I
want to do, we'll go tothe student like hein, I want to

(29:04):
go have fun. I have funin now until smoke, vibe, dads,
laugh and play. But I canalso do what I love to do.
It that's make music. And Ihave to look over your should not
at all, not at all,and then like you become one of those
guys like I make music for thepeople, you know what I mean.
They'll they're looking over my shoulder fromme, like you know, watch your
back right right. They feel thatgood energy when you become that good person,

(29:26):
good people look out, you knowwhat I mean. They I don't
tell people man it feel good andI have to really just be like that,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you gotta watch out
for those guys who want to robyou and stuff like that. But to
feel like man, ain't nobody tryingto harm me, right, you know
what I mean. They come tolove me. These people can't because they
love me. They want to seethey coming for a show. And you
got some folks you love out there. You want to put it on the

(29:47):
map because you home. Yeah,and I know they wan't here. All
the collective names now, I'm notgonna say ou ya name for my family
from here and shout to my family. Shout to my brother a d Man,
that's my day one A one,okay. Shout out to Nacy my
day one two. And my mamaMan, I love her. She she
burnt me right here and motor.Shout to my pop out he passed away

(30:08):
a few years back. He taughtme the game. He gave me all
the qualities of being a man.And I wish he was here to see
it, but I know he watchedhim and he got me right now.
So le pat poling it down.Of course, got the rodeo joint banging
Karma Kazi on the way, doingit real big with three hundred but from
the five old fold from the signand I'm turning the build doing big things.

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Man. Congratulations, I appreciate itall right, And come back when
when when you get that big KarmaKazi and we dropped the album and all
of that good stam, I'm onthe way. All right, there it
is. We'll be back with more. It's Q ninety three.