Bossman DLow Exposed, Megan Thee Stallion Pops Off, Living Below Your Means & More!

Tone Kapone, KeKe, and Zach Boog talk Bossman DLow Exposed, Megan Thee Stallion Pops Off, Living Below Your Means & More!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
I love all right, y'all, welcome Chordren. One more.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Can I say, Podcast Rider? What number are we on?
Two twenty? Yeah, yeah, that's right man. I wanted your
whole uncle paulmy introduce you to the other members of
the Pod Pop Fami.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know them already, but then I new member. See.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
She is the first lady of the Pods. He's the
only lady of the Pods. She's got a gracie and
a purple hat on her name is.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hey, y'all.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah, y'all have seen this outfit last but two three
episodes ago.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I just rotated at this.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Point, ran it back. All right, I'm.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
A cartoon character. I might just rock this forever. Just
get you will get you a couple of different colors. Yeah,
like on the same outfit and just rock out. I'm
sick of getting dressed out four in the morning.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's tough and it's terrorists out here.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
This okay's terrift machine or.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Alright, man's a funny man at the pop my little brosid.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Boy, Woo woo woo woo.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Who who I like the Green the Man Greens act.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm not trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Be trying to I'm really not.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We need to celebrate that he doesn't have leather pants.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
On, and five in the morning he has leather pants
one day you forget.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's crazy. I had somewhere to go after work.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I'm sad to have four hours and leather pants and
leather pants you're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Stand up and do walk around. They were from fashion
over and breatheable you.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Get off work at today, m Where were you going
with leather pants on?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I had at the rest of my in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
The rest of you had a leather.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Last I had the rest of my outfit and the car.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
The car, what was you gonna hit him with?

Speaker 5 (01:48):
I looked I was supposed to be that's crazy. I
don't put hate on this level.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I hated. I couldn't move. Was like because what I saw,
I was like, oh you got a leather pants on.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Then what I thought about it at the time frame
and what you had him on was little weird. I
was like, leather pants are two our outfits? You got
to get edited out of the edit it out? You
said to A Yes he did. And the ride to
work and I guarantee you you best shower want killer.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Somebody got them nuts. Come you are leather pants. I
got it. I got about two Oh you only supposed
to been him for two hours.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
But I did see you and jeans yesterday for the
first time.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
That was new for me. What do you mean you
had on some jeans, I know, jeans like a toddler
because you think, yeah, yeah, okay, I don't see this
man in jeans.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
This is new.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I have blue jean's. I normally wear gray and black. Jeez,
I got a lot of those. I wore blue js.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
It was wild. Wait a whole episode. It was wild.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
It really was.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know, girl, wh faster, she got a big booty,
but you're trying not to look.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I was like, oh, that's yeah, yo, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Switching it up, dummy.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, let's go ahead and get to this Magan Stallion
all right, man. Uh, I actually talked to Gianno Calwell,
who's from Chicago. Uh. He does the Fox and he's
probably He says he's one of the people that are
leading the charge on this toy Lane is not guilty.
Now they're saying that they have new evidence to prove
that he did not shoot her. Uh, it's a it's

(03:53):
a long text. We don't have to bring it up.
But my thing is, Giano did say something that was
very interesting. He said, there's a lot of things in
this case that are not They didn't follow the lines
of logic like why did Kelsey have to plead the
fifth Why does she.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Get immunity if you didn't do nothing?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
If you didn't do nothing, and that right there is
a is a big statement right there, like why do
you need immunity if you ain't do nothing?

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Does that make sense? Zach? Why you blinking like that?

Speaker 5 (04:24):
I mean, I'm not saying it don't make sense. I
just thought it was more. Oh no, yeah, that was
kind of it.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
According to his sources.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
An to you that wouldn't know what you probably thought
it was. But I get it. I get it if
people get immunity sometimes.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
But if you didn't do nothing, Zach, Like if I'm
in a car with you, I'm in a car with you,
you do something wrong and they want me to testify,
and they got me an theer, Oh, I'm just telling
you what happened. I'm telling you what. Look this what happens.
Zach did this the keki, this is what happened. And
I'm out of it. When I asked for immunity. That

(05:05):
means I had something to do with it.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Well, I heard she asks for immunity because she was
getting paid off by Tory. So when she got granted immunity,
she was able to get on the stand and say,
I don't know what happened. I don't remember what happened.
I don't recall, I don't recall. Many people thought Kelsey,
being Megan's longtime best friend, that she would get on
the stand and speak for Megan. But allegedly people will
speculate that she was paid off by Tory to get

(05:29):
on the stand and with her immunity act as if
she doesn't recall anything from the night.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
That friendship was over once they found out that Toy
was Because this is alleged for what happened, you tell
me if I'm wrong, because I don't kind of remember
the story, but wasn't. According to Kelsey, Meg put Meg
put Kelsey on Tory, and Tory and her had day whatever,
and then Meg went right behind her back and was

(05:57):
smashing Toy right, So that friendship seems like it.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Was over anyway.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Absolutely So, then if I'm on the scene when a
man has shot you and you were no longer friends.
If that man comes to me and offers to pay me,
hey say, hey, you know allegedly you get on the
stand and you say you don't recall or you lie
whatever on From my behalf, that looks like what that
may have been?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
What Kelsey did?

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I think everybody wrong. I think everybody lying. It's a
little lie on both sides. I think it's some lie
in the prosecution, it's some line the defense. You know
what I'm saying, the lies and the prosecution things that
kind of didn't add up to me. The the no
gunpowder or those those certain things like if you shot

(06:41):
somebody and you fire off a gun, it should be
on you, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
The fact that the evidence went missing.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Now they're saying that there it wasn't bullet fraction fraction fragments,
it was actually glass.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
She stepped on a lot of stuff. From that side
is messed up.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
And then from the defense side, it's like, if I
didn't shoot you, guess what y'all gonna hear My side
of the story to not to not to decide to
have Kelsey only three people who's dead, three three people
who's dead and the bodyguard right, so bodyguard goes missing.
Kelsey needs immunity and act like she don't remember nothing.

(07:16):
She remember her Her testimony was wild. Tory don't talk
at all, and the only person who talking is the
person who said they got shot. This sain't right if
I'm trying to defend to it. What is going on?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It just this is terrible. All of this is bad. Okay.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
If I'm Kelsey, I'll ask for community too, because if
I can't trust him either, he's the guy I was
looking up where he's sleeping with my best friend. I
can't trust neither one of y'all, So I need immunity
because one y'all might get together and say I did
something to this girl. So that could have been another
reason why she asks for immunity. But I'm like that
because you can't trust neither party at this point.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
But why ain't nobody talk? You know what I'm saying. Okay,
let's happen here. Somebody gotta talk.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, if I'm happening here, I already know what's gonna happen.
Y'all are gonna lie for each other because this is
what y'all doing for Tory.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
And y'all gonna act like a ride her.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
He gonna go missing, and everybody gonna act like I'm
just shot and I don't know, nobody know how it happened,
because that's what y'all doing.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
A Magan.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
No, no, no, yeah, I know, no.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
No, no, no, not because because the money. If Toy
is paying off, let's say, Toy, give it up.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You can be giving you if I'm giving you money.
If I'm giving you money, you can say it for anything.
Me and Tory, we were dating and Toy was giving
me money to help me start my business. Toy was
giving me money to do this.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
And after not after the incident, you can't say that,
why not, because that's that's insane. I got what I got,
I got no name on it, no receipts. I got
a law degree from Waldgreens. And according to my law degree,
if we commit a crime and all of a sudden
cash after you a big amount of money, that can
be brought up in court and everybody gonna be found guilty.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
When they asked Kelsey, they said, who's paying for your lawyer?
She said no.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
I said, now come on, now, you know who's paying
for your lawyer. So whatever they were trying to wiggle out.
It came out and it ended up weird. You know
what I'm saying at this point, I don't know what happened.
I really don't. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
They saying they got all this new evidence that Tory
didn't do it, and then they turn around. If if somebody,
if somebody said, Zach, I can only talk speak for me.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
If somebody said, hey.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Zach shot Rider, guess what, Zach is gonna get on
the stand and tell you what really happened. Yes, at
some point, I'm telling you what really happened, whether y'all
decide to talk or not, whether tone disappear, or they
and Kiki got immunity. You know who talking me because
you need to hear my side of the story. You're
just not gonna hear from Rider that. That doesn't make

(09:42):
sense to me. It's like if you if somebody's accusing
you of something, you didn't defend yourself.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
At all exactly, and he's just gonna let it play out.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
New evidence he gets stabbed. Where is the new evidence
he gets stabbed? New evidence? Hey, I got new evidence
It says that I didn't do this, And it came
out next day stab fourteen times. This little dude survived
fourteen times of stabbing.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Where is the evidence and where are the stab bounds?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Because everybody wanted to see Everybody wanted to see Megan's
wounds and gunpowdered, shotshy bleed and this she is.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I want to see some.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Evidence we saw.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
You want to see the blood. I want to see
the stitches.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, i'll tell you what camera.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
He ain't got to be our toorking because he got
stabbed fourteen times. So I would like to see it.
Because everybody's screaming new evidence.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Where is it? Say something. If I'm in jail for
a crime and it's some new evidence that's.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Getting posted on my Instagram that day, okay, that day
he teasing new evidence like an album got.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Out, I'm so sad up, you know, like this like
a rollout. He's been a drop, the new evidence dropping.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
So like, give us the damn evidence, y'all y'all, so
you know, I legally inclined.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Where is evidence?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's actually an album?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Where's evidence? And where at the stabb move evidence?

Speaker 4 (11:11):
I need to see that too, because, like you said,
I'm not laughing to Lance, ain't got fourteen places on
his body to get stack. He's so damn little how
you stab him? Fourteen tame? And he survived. But y'all
want to question that Megan got shot in her foot
and she's a damn amazon.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
You're shot in her foot? Yeah, out of here, y'all see.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Me, didn't in her foot.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I'm still and look at me and let alone and
look at me.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You get shot, You ain't, You ain't targeting.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Let me take something.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Diddy and Biggie was in the car right and then
who what?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
What?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Brom here?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I just hold on you. You can't keep a moving
gold post. You kicked that whole over because I'm play
the new game. We ain't playing football no more.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
He shot me the evidence and I shut up.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh my gosh. All right, let's get to this man.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Dinzel Washington had a heated exchange with a photographer at
the Cans Festival.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Uh Denzel talking to his co stars.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
He was talking to actually the director and one of
his coat stars asat Rocky he was talking to Spike
Lee and then the photographer grabbed him and Dinzel had
a little heated exchange.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
We've never really seen Denzel lose his cool. What was
this like for y'all? Old black man do not like
to get touched.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Jock Damn crumb snapping all me.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
You touch your old black man, they go off. It's
just something about touching them, that is true. He said,
stopped any guy in his face that stop putting your
hands on me. Don't you touch me. You saw Denzel face.
Don't you touch you?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
When I tell you.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
That man turned around, That man grabbed his arm again,
turned around, grabbed him. He said, stop it stop and
he was dead serious. I'm dead serious. Okay, if you
touched them again, been some furniture move, let you know,
he give you too. He would have slapped that photography
slapped him, slapped.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
All men like to slap slap you first, he got
stabbed back.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
You got a little poker. The old man got a poker,
at least in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
They yeah, they keep a poker on them. I just
saw that, and it was funny because if you saw asap.
Rocky was walking up to him about to say what's up,
but he saw how mad Denzel was. Except just get
out of there. He just disappeared. He's like, yep, Kelly, yeah.

(14:23):
He started talking to Spike Lee yeah, and it was
just Dinzel had a moment. But honestly, Kelly Rowland had
a moment last year at the same festival where they
was touching her and she went off on somebody. So
I think they got like a personal space issue out
there where, because Kelly is the sweetest lady I've ever met.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yep, she come on, man, sweetest that lady is.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
If she going off, you did something wrong, Denzel Washington
ain't never had no issues with nobody. It's Denzel Washington.
He going off. You did something wrong. You can't touch
You got to stop touching people. No people, people don't
touch people.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
You can't not touch people. You got to get that attention. Hey,
excuse me. And I seen a lot of time that
touch comes from a couple. Hey. Hey, and people want
to touch sometimes you gotta left that. Hey, don't get
you just let us slide, slide, keep it pushing.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I wish I would grab somebody, and I'm not grabbing
thiszel Watch.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's one of my goals. I'll be freaked out I
met thiszel like, I'm not touching dizaeil Watch. I'm like, yo,
what up?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
What's that? My dog? Hands off me? Stop it?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Stop it, don't touch me. Hey, Ron, ain't no diney.
I just got so bad.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
That quick.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, he's narrow from He from New York. He from
Mount Vernon, New York, New York. He'll fight you.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, let's get it. Years old.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Don Richards was back on the stand yesterday and also
cassies best friend also took the stand and did his
former assistant testify that he heard did he call in
Cassie Young and mouldible? Also there's photos of the sex
workers did he use for the free costs that were released?
And also his stash of baby oil and drugs in

(16:16):
the hotel room.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
I feel so bad for those freak off members, the members,
the people who was freaking off.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Why didn't remember?

Speaker 5 (16:25):
I don't know, man, because because that escort service ain't
something they could live on forever, it wasn't. They probably
ain't freaking off no more, got regular jobs, just dropped
their kids off at work. And then now their pictures
is plastered all over the world, all over the place.
They ain't getting no money out of it, except the
little money they got from the freak offs that's been gone,

(16:47):
and now they're trying to rehabilitate and live regular lives,
and now everybody got to see them. We didn't see that,
We didn't have to see them. Friends, still, we didn't
have to see that. Bro.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
That mean even for a man, a pastor now.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Gave itself to the Lord and now everybody know you
was freaking off with freak alls. Like to me, it's
like when you hear about It's like when they catch
the rapper, we caught X y Z with drugs and guns.
Rappers are gonna all have drugs and guns. Those are
things that I just know you're gonna I'm surprised when
you don't have them, you know what I mean. But
when there is like a freak all, Am, I surprised

(17:27):
that did he had drugs and baby oil?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm not surprised by that. Bro.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's like at some point, I mean, we we know,
did he had drugs? Alcohol and baby oil? And escorts?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Again? Where are we seeing the sex traffic? That's all
I'm saying. Just let it all come out, Okay, I'm
not trying to fink.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm just saying, Bro, I think, yes, the BIGA is
a conspiracy.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Oh thank you, Let's just get it out there because
I'm tired of doing this every day.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
You know, my nigga's a conspiracy, don't head counsel. I
don't know what it is. We got Shannon did took down.
We got Smoky Robinson getting took down.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
We got man.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
They tried to take down Michael Jackson. They try to
take down all our heroes. Man, but it took him down.
I mean, some of it is well deserved, but I
mean it's just to me, just to me, it just
seems crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like Harvey Weinstein went to jail.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Ain't nobody even know about it. He was just all
of a sudden, Harvey was here in jail. They take
us and send us up on the national billboard, and
and and it just bring us down.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Agree, I agree with that aspect. Are you telling me,
ain't no white boys doing nothing? That's not what we're
talking about. I understand.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
You me tell me, no white boy got nasty. I'm
gonna ask you a questions. I'm sorry, had no parties, passion.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
In the room.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
No, I just you ain't making it Betters. I got passion, you.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Did, and I understand the passion. I just sometimes you.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Know how people are.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
I do think that sometimes they try to take us
down sometimes, but a lot of times we are taking
down and a lot of times we become the poster
child of whatever this crime is. Like, that's the issue
that I hate, is that we become the face of it,
you know what I'm saying, the face of freakings, the
face of pedophilia, the face of all these different things.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
They use us as the face. Totally agree with you
on that.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
But some of these niggas evil and and they and
some of them are really evil. And the stuff that
Diddy's doing, I know, we like, oh, it's a conspiracy
to take him down. Dog, You're threatening to kill people,
You're beating on women, You're having people pissing in the mouth,
all this type of outside of the outside of.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Even putting, putting people drugging people up.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
That's that's four days people having beaten, people having sores
in their mouth and people can't.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Do like that is evil. But it's evil. That's just evil.
But and then again I believe.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
And I'm not saying he's the only person being evil,
but it's still evil.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
There is I think Ki Ki Man said it.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
What we're doing is we're seeing so you're seeing a
person that and it's evil. I'm not it's bad. You're
seeing a person with extreme power. Hey, I got this
type of power, and I know that I can make
people do what I want him to do because they
want to be next to me.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
That that is the thing. It's the manipulation of power.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like a lot of times people are saying that Diddy's
forcing people to do.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
It, like, ah, no, they know.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Those powerful people know that there are people out here
that want to be famous so bad that they would
let that person, that powerful person, do anything just so
they can get next to him, just so they could
be in the room, just so they can be invited
to a party, just so you could text them and
they text you back. That's what we're seeing. A person
that is super powerful that manipulates it. And there is

(21:33):
people they do it all the time. But again, but again,
what I'm saying is, though, Zach, is that it just
seems like it just seems like and I wish I
could quote Bill Cosby on this.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Is like an old Bill Cosby.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
You want to you want today like today you want
to quote Bill Cosby on support of Diddy?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Is that what we're doing right now?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Should I not do that?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
All people you could quote I'm talking about Martin Luther King.
You know, Michael Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Somebody I thought he was say, I want to go ahead, but.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Drink he said, he said, when white when white people
do stuff, it's on the back page. When black folks
do something, it's on the front page. And that's all
I'm saying. It just seems like, like you said, to
your point is that we become to post a.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Child for all of these super bad things. That's all.
That's all. That's all.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
And and I'm not trying to Harvey want see to
catch a straight but he had.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
It was a whole movement. He deserves a straight.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Whole movement. But Harvey, whatever happened, he just ended up
in jail. They got real quiet everything. There are people
that all of a sudden they do these terrible things
when they're not black. They had a little court cases
and they just kind of end up in jail.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's awesome. We got dragged all throughout. Yeah, but it's
also the world that we live in.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
It's it's our Twitter and our algorithms and our in
the world that we live in because we're seeing it everywhere.
But guess what, my boy, No, my boy just did it.
My boy just did a joke, a diddy joke in
front of all white folks. They didn't know what he
had to get about that joke. They didn't know what
was going on. It was older white folks. They had
no clue, Cassie. They ain't know nothing about it. And

(23:28):
I think our world, I see. I think I think
sometimes in our world were like, oh, this is happening everything.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Every time I look up, I'm hearing people talk about it.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, in our world, but I guarantee you it's some
worlds where they not talking about it.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
You agree with.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
That, I think I actually feel what you're saying. I
just think that we pick and choose the wrong times
to highlight your point of view. So it's like, because
right now it sounds crazy when you try to say, well,
they don't do this, and you try to compare it
because did he or did he do not do the crimes?
It's really all people want to hear right now. But

(24:03):
when we move past this, then the next time a
white celebrity is found doing the stuff that they do,
we need to give the same type of attention to
their situation. I think that's the difference, Like, yeah, we're
not gonna talk about Harvey Weinstein like that because he
don't appeal to our demographic. We don't know him. I
didn't know the man until he came out as a freakazoid.
So it's like you have to give that same type

(24:26):
of attention. I'm not gonna talk about him a thousand
times on the radio because my audience don't care about him.
They don't know about him. Our people are people that
we care about, we feel connected to, so when they
do something, of course it's gonna be the topic of conversation.
But if we want to change that narrative, we in
the media. So let's give the same coverage to anybody
that's not black, that is committing the same type of crime.

(24:46):
And that's the only way you can kind of even
a plan field or use your power. But trying to
defend it right now with how things are coming out
about Diddy is swallowing on deaf ears because it's like,
how can you defend that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I ain't never say Harvey Weinstein records.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's different, you know, Okay, and they and then and
then honest, I mean they control this. I mean, you know,
Harvey Weinstein got friends in probably very high places that
can make things get quiet for him, the same way.
Did he has four years now. Don't act like this
stuff is just coming out about did he. It's been around.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Since we were children.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
It's also the same thing that we think. It's similar
to the thing that I was just glad.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
You want not part of the freak off when they
them pictures. Maybe I was on them pictures.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I was. I was zooming there.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
I said, I know tall ass bet not be on
this line up, and one freaking man, you kind of
favor him.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
I was like, oh that, I said that it was
they did have one.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It wasn't you. It was no freak off.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
It wasn't you outside that's outside, but it was close.
I'm looking at this Jude. He had on the red hat.
I always worried it was him. Yeah, yeah, I said,
I had one.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah him, that ain't me. Man? All right, Well, well
he is him, that's right.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Marcus Jordan, Michael Jordan's son, said he is now forty
days sober, but thank god, after his after his d
y rest. I don't like this for him.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
You don't want him to be I don't want him
to be true, you know, I don't want him to
be sober Jordan's son. You're supposed to be high. No, yes,
you're supposed to be You're supposed to live life lawless.
You You you're the person with should have a scandal,
not Diddy.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You got to go out like I'm Michael Jordan's son.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
You don't live a sober safe Like what's the point
of me and Michael Jordan's son.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
They say, they say, messel and now he's mess with
Nicole Murphy. He a cougar hunter boy, they said, They
say that, I didn't even know Michael Jordany said Michael
Jordan dated her, dated her.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Too, But Nicole Nicole Murphy.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
But that's what you were about to say, something about
to say about what she was about to do. I
just turned the call. She's dated her fair share of me.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Throwing that coolie cat all over the plain, been in
the been in the industry forever.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
She that bad.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Like I don't know, I don't know. It's just like
I don't know what. I just think about it. Like
women that I find and been around for a while.
Of course they're gonna date other famous men.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
What you're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
You're gonna go for me having a marriage with Eddie
Murphy and Dave Zach and Zay.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Tone absolutely not take me. Look, I'm telling you you
don't want no parts of that. You you don't want
to know. You don't want no I don't want I
don't want to go in this.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
That's been married to this, not she's famous because of
the guy. Not famous, not famous for doing my own
thing famous because of the guy.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
You don't want no part of that. I get it,
I get it. I want to make my own woman famous.
You're gonna make you a woman famous, Yeah, got to.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
That's a goal of mine. You gotta make a woman famous.
But it's gonna be well, it's gonna be in an
ice qe wife type of way exactly we see you
never see it, but you know, you know what I'm saying.
You know, ice cube wife is around and she been
there forever and she hold him down. You don't know
what she looked like, but then if you if like
she could walk in right now, we wouldn't know. But

(28:39):
if she told you she was ice cue wife, all
the respect in the world would come out.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
You be oh, I'm sorry, ma'am. You would get it
together because you understand Zach, you're gonna make a man famous.
Absolutely not, you should. I wish that's kei ky husband
right there.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
It ain't no, he's gonna be come around, grinny, come
around in the looks.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
He's gonna knouse who that.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Way looks the gallup.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Ud looks crazy at what's the theme working?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
And I want that highlight.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
A vest I ain't really want to do the theme.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I just came by and see if straight she's good? Oh,
g she good? Player? You got you ain't got. I'm
just here just in case some pop off.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Don't want my husband gonna get some punch or something.
I don't want my husband on the scene. I don't
want him to be a party, none of this.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
You don't want him next to you.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Suppose and maybe when I get old then he could
come outside.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
I don't bring about like that because then he ain't
gonna know how to act. You gotta bring him out.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I don't know. He's gonna be tired when you see that.
I don't want nobody to new you gonna make somebody famous, nude,
That's what I'm saying. Ain't nobody Ooh.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
You're gonna live a good life. Live a good life, baby,
live a good life. Let me go do this, get
his bread for us, and you ain't got to worry
about nothing. Sit back, sit back, like they gonna know.
She like the battery behind everything. Yeah, all your tone.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Wife be doing blah blah blah, but you're not gonna
ever ever.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
I like it like like like I say, like ice
Ce wife. I used to say, like Savannah, but now
she got stuff. She's doing a lot now.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I know it's a time though, so it's Savannah's time.
I don't know. I play forty. I like NBA and
it's no this Savannah.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
I know Savannah is an amazing woman, but I just
you know, now she's doing the podcast, got this out,
coming out on the rid.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I just it's cool. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Twenty years in the NBA and we have not heard
anything for Savannah James. She didn't come out now like
she didn't come out. She's Savannah. You didn't even see
her during the Miami years. You didn't see it much
in the Cleveland it's don't.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
You pop out with the kids. Now. Ain't about Savannah.
It ain't about Savannah or lebron. My fear is more
of what the haters like the people who hate on Lebron,
the people who really dislike their relationship. When you give
them your wife visibility, it's like they have more things
that they can come and shoot and attack and try
to create headlines and stories and all stuff around. I

(31:31):
don't like her being visible makes her vulnerable, and that's
what I don't like. That's why I'm saying now.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I think this is playing.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I honestly think I don't think this is I think
she probably wanted to do this and Lebron probably was
chilling because it's on Lebron's AKA Swan song.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
He just Lebron the way he moves.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
He seems like a person that plans, like, all right, cool,
it's the end of the year. You gonna get your
stuff cracking. I'm gonna have my stuff cracked. He just
always seems like he's keeping things business wise, like I
just I even though he's not my goat, I definitely
mess with how Lebron moves off the court, just everything, everything.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
And I think it was playing, all right. I ain't
mad at you, if that's what y'all want to do.
I just don't. I just think I like when she's protected.
I get that, all.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Right, let's do this two point seven million dollars. That
is Little Dirk's offer for bail, damn free dirt two
point seven. He has now been granted a June second
court hearing to review his third bail attempt.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Did they get a new judge on it? It doesn't
say that.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Here, okay, because that was the thing they were trying
to get a new judge.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
So I hope he gets it two point seven. He
hates jail. He's trying to get up two points.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
He can put up one hundred million dollar house, but
I mean this is two point seven mama house, and
they passports.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
You gotta everything you got, you gotta put it up
point to get out of jail. Two point seven is
it's a.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Lot of money. It's a lot of money, man. They
gotta let him out, man.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
And I get it.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
He want to get out, see his kids, his wife,
my you know what I mean, people, his family, his dad,
you know, people are his family as friends are. Because
you just, yeah, it's a crazy case. While you're not
just smiling over that. And I said, because if I'm dark,
I put up whatever to get out. Whatever happens after

(33:37):
I get out.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
It's a mean but I'm gonna put up to get
I'll tell you, I give you everything to get me out.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
After I get out, I'm out of here. You know
I'm the outfits.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm over there. You know which one I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah,
all the head wrapped.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I'm out out.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
That's the one thing. If they do let me out.
And this is why, y'all, I'm in the bottle of
that in the bottom.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Of a ship, wrapped in the bag. Y'all are not
helping her get.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I'm gonna take whatever what carnival crew going that way
straight rat is climbing on me the ship?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
How you in that? I ain't going back. I swear
five days eight. I'm okay. I'll be alright when water
down the water some crackers, I'll be alright. I eat
when I get to the land, oh man.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Boss Man Dlo seemingly respond to the allegations that he
tried to link with Timmy band Son as a trans
influencer all s and then Timmy dropped the alleged receipts
of their of their messages. Here's another chair, another thing.
Boss Man caught up in a jam. What we're thinking?

Speaker 4 (35:02):
I just think at this point, let's just everybody a
little gay, So let's just no, let's just at this point,
at this point, let's just why were sneaking around the dms,
Like it's I want every rapper who feel like they
gotta go and be on the low.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Just come on out, Come on now. These women accept
anything from y'all. They know you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
So just let's just let's just open the door and
let everybody be free and do what y'all want to do.
So y'all don't have to live and hiding and be
sneaking around because.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
You're not good at it.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
The thing of it is is like at this point,
like when I was coming up, this was a shock. Yeah,
oh no, it's like it's all over. It's we're talking
about it. It's like it's all a shock to.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Look at Luther Lutha. They had to live like that
all them years. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Before what puff she don't rob everybody from the anybody
who did on this part, he is bringing you up.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Sorry, I know you was out here resting. We were
talking about Boss.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Saying, I just I want everybody who and I'm not
being I'm being sincere from the bottom of my heart.
If you feel like you likes look at Diddy, these men.
They brought up him being a freak with a man
at all. They just telling you that he need to
be innocent. They're not tell they're not they're not on

(36:32):
the front.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
They don't care.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
About all the men that was released yesterday. They just
care that Cassie's a liar.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
And you know Cassie who said that these men.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Y'all y'all on this podcast one time, be shocked.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
That Diddy was with a man, because.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
You've been heard, been heard that Diddy been whooping ass
to yep.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
We have heard that.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
We also heard that Diddy was say giving you bad
business deals. We also heard all of these different things, right,
So a lot That's what I've said, so a lot
of it.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
We are all like, all right, we didn't know nothing
about the baby or in the piss though. But my
thing is four hours we didn't crazy.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
If you feel in your heart that you want to
try other things, live your truth, because guess what they
gonna talk about you. Either way, they gonna put the
allegations on you. Either way, you sneaking around here. Your
blood pressure is how you line to this one and
line to that one. You got women thinking that you
ain't when you is. Just come on out because there

(37:42):
are women who are down with it.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
I'm telling you. The odds are against us. It ain't
enough for y'all anyway.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
So somebody gonna get they gonna get with the program,
come out, be who you are, and stop having.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
It because it's what it's gonna come out anyway.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
And nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. That's really the thing.
I don't act like boss y'all think boss man. No,
I don't know what. That ain't my business.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I don't put that gay past nobody that.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Don't That don't make me know what. Damn king just saying, hey.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
It's one, two, three and one of y'all. Somebody in
here free, It's okay, are you are you a look?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I'm not, though, But if I.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
If I was, like I tell anybody, I think Savannah
James is the most beautiful woman in the world. I
don't want to have sex with her. But if I did,
know myself said but because that's just not what I like.
But if I felt it in my heart that I
had a little queen, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
What all the.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Rappers some out and be who they are because I'm
tired of y'all shaming them on podcasts and people being
able to out them and they gotta go and look
at what you happened to Khaleid?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, Khalid the thing y'all don't know him.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I know who Khalid is. What happened?

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Somebody came out out of him?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Why give somebody that power when you could just do
it yourself?

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Like yes, But I don't even think people have tried
to say sorry, be got I think that the shocker
with boss Man Dilo is he boss Man Dilo, is
that you think he you know, he has his image
of that this gangster, this gangster.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
You know how many gas y'all know what y'all end
up been in jail. You gotta go to jail.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
That's so many gay gangsters out here.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm telling even about what Boston Delo like to do.
I don't get I guess for me, I just don't
give a ship. I don't give a ship with boss
Man Dilo.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
We didn't.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Every time something come out, somebody saying something and it's like,
I don't give a ship.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I honestly I don't. I don't give it. I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I don't even show what anybody likes to do. I'm
I'm really and it goes for not just your sexual preface,
it go for everything. I am an expert in minding
my own business. This is the motion that I don't
mind my own business.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Man, say you need to knock it off. Two hundred episodes. No, no,
I know, I'm saying, like, don't mind our business for
a living.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
For a living, Kiki, stop it.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Your job is really to exactly when you leave up
out of.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
These walls, after you finished, after you finished minding everybody business,
you mind the hell out of yours.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yes, that's exactly that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
We mind our bi We don't mind our business here,
but outside you just don't give a ship. And I mean,
like for boss Man de Tho, it's like, okay, how
many times we didn't see people get outed.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
We we're in scary We're in really scary times where
somebody can have allegations and nobody says.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's exactly that's true. It was.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
He did not say it wasn't true. That's the problem, Zachary,
that's the problem. He didn't want did y'all read my
law statement.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Zachary still hold I'm scared.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
I'm actually nervous, and I feel like you're finna hit
me with that and I'm like, you know, I'm going.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Full Mega style that you shot me. If you hit
me with that stick, you shot me, and then it's
gonna go out and two steps afterwards. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
I just said, y'all need to let people be who
they who they are. Create a safe space.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Safe space. There's a safe space. The Smoking Black shout
out at Drew Hill commented on the post. Because Zach
wanted to talk bad and Kiki did not want to
get Smoking Black.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
They just do.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
I told y'all, y'all gonna learn to put some respect
on people. We didn't disrespect Smoking Black. We just said
we didn't know who they were and they are not
a part of the original members of Drew Hill.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
And that's all I that's just fact. I just said
they starting to add people that that's.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
All they did.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
And you can't do that at performance time. You got
to give us a live album or single or something.
Don't just trying to jump out there at the performance
like higg O drew here.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
With two niggas. We ain't never say, yeah, that is wild.
That's wild. That's a wild thing to do. Smoking Black,
my bag, bros. So funny. They know they're wrong.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
That men was so funny, Bro, they know they're wrong.
Oh people talking about some I thought that's just saying names.
But it's really a real smoking black real they are
real people, and.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
They brought them out of nowhere just during the performance. Yep,
you can't do that. Oh man, all right.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Kiki Parma says living below your means is key to
financial security. If you have one million in your pocket,
your rent should be fifteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Now she's tripping. She tripping. Your rent should not be
fifteen hundred. You can get up.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
If you a million dollars, you can do because fifteen
hundred dollars rent where you get what you're getting for
fifteen hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
She probably not paying literally fifteen hundred dollars, but it's
probably in that range.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
But I know it's probably about I would say, legit,
Kiki busy, she move around a lot. She probably about
like thirty five hundred. Yeah, because you usually pay a
thousand of bedrooms?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Is that how y'all do it? That's usually how it goes.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
If you just look at anything you're renting, think about
what your rent is, your rent, and now I talk
about mortgage. Most most times it's a thousand per bedroom
and then that extra five hundred. Like when it's here
rent it's like twenty five hundred. It's usually a combination
of bathroom, kitchen, living space. So if you got a

(43:36):
solid bad one bathroom, full bath, cool living space and
a decent size kitchen is about twenty five hundred to
twenty seven hundred, three thousand. You got one and a
half bath, you got one and a half bath, and
maybe like two bedrooms with a small living space. Look,
I'm trying to help you out.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
It's given.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Like watching face. I ain't gonna lie. I love real estate,
I love I love the way real estate works.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
But the fifteen if you gotta make a million dollars, Like,
let's just say if one day we all got five
hundred thousand dollars apiece, one day we all got five
hundred thousand dollars apiece.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Speaking to exist, you can get.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
You something to be comfortable in at about three grand
to four grand. You'd be all right four grand because
you got to think about what you be making a
month Kiki, you could build a complex in the South suburbs.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Because I ain't leaving, you know me.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I hear everything you're saying, baby, But I need to
be right on the cusp before heights in Indiana.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
I need to be so far out. I need my
taxes to be very low. I'm with Kiki all the
way on this.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
I'm gonna forever live below Miamians forever. I want you
to always think I'm broke. I never gonna tell nobody
I got no money. So yeah, I'm with her on this.
I feel like, as long as you live below your means,
you never have to ask anyone for anything anything. And
that's my that's been my My God has been good.
I don't I always want to be the Linda never

(45:09):
to borrow ever because a ball like that. Yeah, I don't,
I don't, I don't. I will live less, you know
what I'm saying. I drive, I sit in traffic every day.
To live below my means. I could, I could move,
I could do a lot of other things. For what
then I got to I got to struggle and and

(45:31):
may have to borrow something from tom one day or
call it.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
No, No, you ain't about to be down there telling
people I didn't I owe you money.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, I'll never do that if you didn't pay me
nom definitely telling Zach Ryder that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
That's the worst.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I was like, man, hit me back. So she called you.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah, you watching my Instagram seeing what I'm eat because
that's what I do when I love people.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I'm watching you.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I want to see how you doing, how you living.
You need to be struggling on all platforms. If you
asking me for we have a we have a we
have a cap of credit union. We have a Cavil
Credit Union.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Like if you you could borrow money from nookes all day, Hey, yo,
look I need a little Okay, here, I got you.
If you don't pay back on your time, oh that's
the worst. That's because the first ain't somebody that you
call another noup and they be like yo, brother, he
such and such ask you for some money. And if
you ain't get that money back in the right time,

(46:36):
your credit your credit man tell them no.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Bro, I hate to do it.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
But if you a good payback, now, everybody news gonna
be like, okay back. I mean, you know, off side
of the lending stuff. But me and Zach just was
talking about you with this.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Me.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, what when doing this?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Tom, Tim just talking about it.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
We said, if we ever get some money, me and
Zach moving to the Lincoln Park, Oh yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
We move with a Lincoln part.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
So okay, yes, let's you got to tell the whole story,
all right. So you know Tone calls with those. You know,
he liked the dream.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
And he don't give it.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Damn if you actually in the middle of a dream,
you don't care, and you know he gonna call you.
He a dreamer, he pays and he gonna tell you what.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
So he was having one of his like extravagant dream
story and I'll be with him sometimes on the dream.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
So we were out.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
This was one of them dreams. We had signed some
big deal. I've got how much we was making, but
Tone negotiated it. He walked in and told them we
all needed a meal a piece. Okay, So I was
spending the money that Tone had negotiated for him. I
was like, yeah, man, I'm being on link, I'm being
Lincoln Part from a rooftop deck. And then Tone was like, yea,

(47:48):
I'm gonna live right around the corner. I'm gonna walk
around my flip flops, Like what up, bro, I was
like yeah, and I was like yep. And then he
gonna have a mansion in the South suburbs. We said
he was gonna have this big ass crib in the
South suburb because you ain't leaving the South suburb.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
We did say that, you know, I have to go.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I'm just I'm gonna live below my means.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
I don't even know how else to put it, like,
I'm I just think he gonna have horses out there
land Like.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
You know, y'all will go buy a house that I
can renovate rather than just going smart because I can't.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
I cannot.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
And let kids just maybe watching they're gonna approve you
for eighty thousand when they know you can only afford
forty thousand. If you go and run it up to
eighty thousand, you will be in debt for the rest
of your life. Don't put yourself in those type of situations.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
That's all come on. Now, that's that's and that's money
talks with Kiki. Okay, there it is. You see them
things about kikiS do that Kiki Palmer And that's the
key thing. That's what's up though. That's smart? All right?
Oh last day, man, let's get to this. What a summer?
Do we talk about this before? Ryan? U? Up?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
There were some of the red flags in dating? What's
up of your red flags?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
And dating?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Cheap? Liar? M?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
What dating? Key? Key? If I'm supposed to get lied
to in dating? No, don't lie to me? Okay, don't
lie to me? What is a lie? What would be?
What would be a red flag lie? For you? Outside?
If you have somebody or you're living with somebody, those
are obvious lies. But I'm talking about a little lot

(49:32):
obvious lies.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
If those are obvious, like yeah, I ain't in in
a relationship, I ain't you know, I ain't living with nobody,
those obviously those who them lies.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
But I'm talking about a little white lie.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
What's a white lie? Give me an example of something
you feel is not?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
You go out all the time? Not really? So why
start see?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
And that's it's like, why start off like that? Why
start off like that?

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Because the women I'm trying to tell y'all, they they
will get with your program. It's hard out here. So
a lot of when we will we will delude make
some delusional decisions. If you be honest upfront, but lot
about going out and then we get together and every
night you in the streets.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Why you set yourself little man, you could have taught
me from the jump.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Well, if you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Get, you gotta breaking.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Baby yourself. Yeah, you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
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Speaker 1 (50:55):
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Speaker 2 (51:01):
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Speaker 3 (51:06):
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that's when entering.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Okay, red flags pick up right here, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Well, the thing is, well, the thing is your lie
when you Keiki saying just be up front from the beginning,
don't lie. Okay, And you know that's good advice, but
it's not good advice why because if you do not
if you if you're if you're up front, here's the thing.
If you're up front from the very beginning, she's just

(51:37):
gonna leave. She's gonna be like, nah, I ain't on that,
I'm gone. Now you have to get her to like
you a little bit. Yep, then you hit her with
the truth. Not you can't wait too long though, Okay,
so you gotta have been to I would say you've
at least done like one date, a lunch date. Then
you know what I'm saying, You've had some type of

(51:59):
inter action with her one on one where she kind
of likes you a little bit, and then you hit
her with the truth. If you come out at the party,
you just got a number, but you got a girl. Yeah,
mm hmm, she's gonna walk right away. You done took
her out. Once she kind of got your vibe a
little bit, then she'd be like, then y'all talking on
the phone, She's like, so, what you got going on?
She likes you a little bit. Then you tell her

(52:21):
and that's the way she would stick to your program.
But immediately, no, at it's gotta be it's gotta be
very very early where she likes you a little bit,
yet she's not too deep in.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
But the problem with lion, the problem with being a
liar with y'all both clearly the perfect way to lie. So,
because I have a hard time with lying, I'm a
very bad liar.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I will avoid you to keep from lying to you
because I have a very hard time with lying. So
the way you just explained it is, yes, you go
into it with that intention like, Okay, I'm gona I'm
gonna get her to like me, and I'm gonna tell her,
and then you never end up telling her that y'all
start sleeping together, y'all go together. She think y'all together,
and then she catch you because you never told. It's
like when you tell when you know you're doing something.

(53:10):
You did something wrong at school, You like, I'm gonna
tell my mama before you I am. I'm gonna go
ahead and tell her. You never you go home every
day like, oh, not a good day today, not gonna.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Do it today.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Oh you gotta tell her before you sleep with They
don't do that thought, y'all don't do that. Y'all sleep
with it make people feel like they're your girlfriend. And
then she start finding.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Out, well, why do you feel like a girlfriend once
we sleep with you? Well, women like.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Sex just as much as dude, I can only speak
for me, right, your girlfriend, I'm gonna yeah, but you
have enough friends to know that it does not always
you are of one of one and so my think
if that is, it's just like I can't I can't
think I'm your girlfriend unless you making me feel like
I'm your girlfriend? How do you feel like a girlfriend

(53:53):
where you've not been told your girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
That is also women's problem.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Stop feeling like a girlfriend, feel like I feel like
somebody that we have to think about women.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Dudes don't do it. We don't be like you know what,
I'm still like, I'm you.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Know what, another man or y'all fat actually talking to
another dude. Y'all out of there because y'all don't like that.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That's not that's not feeling like a boyfriend. That's just like,
you know what another dude is. It seems like this
is what happens. You were dudes will lose a competitive
edge because we, like I keep telling you, dudes already
know if you're a pretty woman, not even anything, most
chances you got dudes on your ass.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
If we feel like that that dude's ahead of us, Yeah,
we're gonna fall back. But other than that.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Most dudes ain't gonna care. We're not gonna care. No
new I was like, you know what, man I saw
I wanted with another dude, and I feel like her boyfriend.
No women do that, y'all feel like a girlfriend for what?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Because women are writers?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Like if like women are like, they create eight storylines
in their head while they date you. So when they
first meet you and you're going that first date, they
have created what you are and what you're gonna be
in their life already.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
And that's and that is why stop it.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
And that after they have, after they have created that image,
when you ain't done nothing to show them nothing else,
then that's when you can tell them the truth. And
guess what they're gonna do. Now they gonna make that
truth fit their storyline.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Does that makes sense?

Speaker 6 (55:23):
So?

Speaker 5 (55:24):
I don't know why they They're just very creative and
everything in their head. And this is why they end
up messed up in relationships because they create, They get
to one level and then they create something else that
they need to do, and then they go on and
they go on and they go on until they have
created their way up out the relationship.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's facts. Relax because you're not gonna you not.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
I want a certain thing out of life, and if
you're not able to provide it, I'm asking the wrong man.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
But that's fair. That's a fair thing.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Now that my thing is, hey, you want something you
you It didn't go to storyline, didn't go to where
you wanted to go, right, be a part of it.
And women don't get mad at me. It's just my storyline.
What you created in your head wasn't.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
No, it's not. If we are getting to know each other,
it's no helping. You did that on your own.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Man, you why are you going this way to the
table acting like you wanted the same thing? I feel
like a nice person acting like you wanted the same
thing that I want. Until you got what you wanted
from me, I never got what I wanted from you.
So once I realized I'm not gonna get what I
want from you, it's to me to go.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
It's the same thing. Like it's like if God say, hey,
I like her, we like I like spending time with her.
But then I go and all of a sudden, she
now we having a good time, but we spending more time.
Now I gotta figure out because you start messing with
my piece a little bit. Now I gotta Now I'm
hesitant and I got away because my piece is getting

(56:53):
rattled a little bit. But they make me rallying my
piece cage.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
That's because women. That's because women lie. What do we
lie about? Off?

Speaker 6 (57:00):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Let me tell you about.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
They tell me what they lie about.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Women lie in the beginning of the relationship too about
So here's what they lie about.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
They be like, I don't care like that. I'm not
the type to be tripping. I don't really be like that.
I don't go through the phones or nothing like just
do you till you hit them? And they start like,
all that is a lie, you don't The thing isgerators.
They check everything.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
You don't know a woman until she really really likes you,
and then the real heir comes out. And then then
they be like, you tricked me. I can't no, I
didn't drink you. You were a different person when we
first started dating, and now you've switched it up on
me and now I'm the bad guy.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Men are the same all way through a relationship. We
don't change what we don't change.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Oh my god, yeah, absolutely change. We changed, y'all.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Y'all love bomb in the beginning, okay, to get up, love,
your write notes, your send flowers, you go on dates,
you plan dates, you do all kinds of stuff. In
the beginning, you get the woman. Okay, now she likes you,
and now she's she's making the storyline and the plans
for y'all. Okay, and then you completely turn into another person.
You take your mask off after you got what you

(58:09):
want to and now it's a whole different thing. Oh,
you only used once the one to start expecting something
from you. Then it's all hell, y'all, y'all, lose y'all mask.
That's true because because once one, when it was no expectations,
it was I'm so peaceful, I'm so.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Expectations. Until there is expectations, how.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Long do you think I'm finna date you with no
expectations of you?

Speaker 5 (58:32):
You you gotta gotta have conversations. It's not exactly, it's
not expectations of me. It's just when I was buying
you flowers, you appreciating them absolutely, and you said thank you,
and they were nice and it was a new and
it made me feel good as a man. But then
when you started expecting flowers, I said, I'm not doing
that because now it became a chore. And if you
start turning our relationship into a chore, that's when we

(58:54):
start to separate.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
But why are you changing your behaviors?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
If you if you started the relationship with me gives
you want me that type of love and affection and appreciation,
sending me gifts and sending me flowers and widening down
to me, why once I start having sex with you
or we start getting serious, now you want to pull
back because you don't feel like you need to do
that anymore, because you feel like you got me where
you want me.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Sometimes Now it's as I think this happens on both sides.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Again, I always think from both sides perspective, not like
well of your friends on this podho and it takes
from one perspective.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
So I think that yo, like.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
A person could really like somebody, but then they also
got things and they that person you really like, that's
some personality, things that you got you worry about, you
worry about, so.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
You kind of in between.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I think that's why I say it'll happen, man, Kiki,
Ain't nobody walked up to you and say I want
to be their girlfriend. I want you to we want
you to be my girlfriend. Most times it just happens,
and you've been lucky. You wanted a few people that
relationships have kind of happened for. I think the relationships
that happen are the ones that work, the ones that

(01:00:04):
just well, I got some expectations. You ain't following my expectations, dude,
Like like I wanted to cook, I wanted to clean,
I wanted to do this. I wanted her to be
and you got all of these expectations and she ain't
never cooked.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I want you to clean up. You ain't never been clean.
Your apartment ain't clean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
But I'm mad at you because I come back to
the crib and the crib messier than when I left.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
And that's when you realize you have two people who
are on two different type of pages, right, And I mean,
I'm starting to have I'm starting to expect more out
of our situation.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
You are not, so then now I need to leave.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
That's it, because I mean, you're expecting something from somebody
who's just not willing and you're a You're more than able,
but you're not willing to give it to y'all be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Mad, But y'all be mad man, y'all we need to
cut Why y'all madoth for y'all need to cut the ship?

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
What's the ship?

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, both of y'all need to cut the ship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
What's the shit?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Y'all are in the ship? You need to cut? Knock
it off. Y'all don't like each other. You don't like
them women. Let me say something.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Men, when they don't like you, we keep you around
until you leave with the bare minimal.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yes we do. No, men, I don't do that. Let
me tell you something wouldn't. Here's the thing. Women be like,
I ain't gonna do all this for this man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
When she really like you, guess what she really do
She cooked, She cain't do it, and you ain't gotta
ask about it because she really fuck with you. When
when a man really fuck with you, you ain't got
to ask for his attention, You ain't gotta ask to
make sure he playing stuff. You don't have to do
that because he really messed with you. That if they
don't do that, then that's not the person. You really
don't want to be with them, and you're trying to
see if you can find something better. And that's the

(01:01:47):
one hundred percent truth. When the woman fades off and
she ain't doing all that stuff no more. She ain't
have sex with you don't know, she complaining all the
time she's doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
She really don't like you like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
And men when they when they stop doing stuff for
you like that, they just you just not that person,
because I guarantee you, if they got a call from
that person, everything would drop.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
He acting like he potton.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
But I just said that when we started expecting something,
I love, when the veins get to going and everything.
I just said that when we start expecting something from
somebody and they're not willing to give it, it's time
to go. That's what I think about what I just
you just said.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
I'm in the ship. No, that is what you just said.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
What they really don't like y'all was saying, like people
start doing this and then it's because of these expectations,
and I'm saying, it's just because they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
You don't really like this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
That's why it's time, y'all need to cut the ship.
Y'all need over there, y'all need. I just said that.
Not when I'm asking, and I got to keep asking, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Asking the wrong man. But my thing is don't get
it's cool. My thing is is women get upset about leaving.
You get upset about leaving because it's okay, because things
don't have to work out. That's what I'm saying. Don't
get mad at me because sh it didn't work out.
It's just because it just didn't work out. It didn't

(01:03:06):
work out. Don't be mad about it, be like, okay, cool.
I've had relationships with women and been in a relationship
and I was like, man, yeah she was fine, the
sex was good, or she was cool and she but
it was it was something that kept it from going further.
I don't know what it was, but it was something
that kept it from going further and not. But then
now you mad at me because you couldn't go further.

(01:03:28):
You wanted it to go further.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
I don't want to know what's made it not go further.
You ain't fuck with her like that? Thank you. No,
it wasn't No, it was something. It was something. It
was something. No, I ain't gonna say funck with her
like that. That's a hard harsh word.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
You might like certain things, but you just didn't see
your that's not your ultimate ango. You don't see yourself
with them long term. And that's why righting up for me,
I just I just want to see when they start
doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Don't want to I want him to lie. I'm going
through it. I got agreed, I got, I got a
lot of stuff. You know what I'm saying. You know
I want to be with you. But it's just I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Look I'm older than y'all. Man, I got I gotta,
I gotta pick one. That's another thing I'm in a
part of my life. My my choice got to be
my best choice. That's like I gave like y'all could
play like y'all can play around like y'all kind of
right there where y'all can still make one more mistake
I can't make.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
That's so I can't make. It's got to be a
flawless victory on the way out. Let me not.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
I hate to use him as an example again, but
do you think if when Asap got Rihanna, you think
he was like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
It might not, he was willing.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
But I guarantee, regardless if it worked out or not,
he was willing to go balls to the wall whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
It turned out to be.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
It ain't no hesitation with certain women it's no hesitation.
And for me, and on the same part, when women
get with certain men, it ain't no hesitation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
You got to put my point. You better put my point.
There are guys they have done that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
They're like, ooh, it's juz Rihanna, Oh ooh is Chris Brown?
Ooh is who at whomever? Of the one percenters that
want you, Like we're talking about one percenters that everybody
going to go ball to the wall for. But we're
talking about fuck that, We're talking about real life. Everybody
gonna go balls to the wall for fucking Rihanna, Come on,
are you crazy? But I'm talking about every day And

(01:05:27):
I'm just speaking from my perspective, Like for me, like yeah,
I'm gonna be willing in my end. But I got
what it is is is because I have too much
behind me where I've seen mistake at the mistake or
I made a mistake here, Damn if I had to
just maybe played this is a different way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
So one I got all of those thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
In my head and like I said, like, I ain't
got this got to be fallless for the way out
because personally, I don't the next long term relationship I
have I wanted to be my wife, so I'm going
to be cautious about who's going to get my wife
be my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
It is like because at the end of the day,
I gotta look at how long do you think it
takes to figure that out? Though I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I really don't know because I look at times, why
sit I'm gonna make a I'm doing it, but I'm
gonna date intentionally, and it got myself jammed up. I
look at a time where I said, hey, man, ah man,
she's bad. I like a week cool, jam myself up.
So a lot of times I'm just I gotta figure
it out because I really I don't know how y'all are,

(01:06:28):
but I'm real.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I got to be able to life. The personality got
to jail. It got it for me. It's got like
for me the person that it's got to jail on levels,
on all levels. So I'm just just cautious. So that's
what it is. You cautious.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I feel you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Hey, yes, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Valid.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Voice were made if they want to, they will if
you got to keep asking, you asking the wrong person.
Free yourself, final thought thoughts, Free yourself, that's my final thought.
Free and you you, free yourself, final thoughts, Free yourself,
sack book.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
What's your final thought?

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
Oh ship, it's a wrap, a rap, It's a wrap
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Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Whoop whoop?

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Yes, it's What More Podcasts at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Thank you, k Keith, you're very well. Thank you all right, what's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Your final thought?

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
I'm loving how the pause growing and now I'm looking
forward to this birthday coming up because I care and
it's really not I want to I want to see
how people react to all three of us when we're out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Like everybody always asks, where's that? Where's key key? Where
is that? Where's key key? So I'm looking forward to
y'all seeing all how much people enjoy the pot. Okay,
I'm looking forward to that. That's my final thought. Were here? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah, and yeah yeah we are pod. I've been looking
at the clips some of it, y'all pott in three
days a week. Yes, we are Kiki trying to tell someone, Yeah,
we had a little something. My grandma passed away. I
tell somebody, No, you told them that that we had
some stuff going on. We have some stuff going on.
My granny past was like my mama. Shout out to

(01:08:37):
my mama. Uh So they gave me a little little grace.
It gave me some time off. But we back potting.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Yeah, I try not.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
You know, Black people weird about death, you know, we
weird that you were scared to ask you like you
get cussed out. I don't know, like that ain't for
me to be telling everybody because black people is very
weird about like I wanted to send some flowers. I
was scared to ask you where her body was at
because I didn't want, you know, black folk swear you
trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
You know, yeah, you know it was. It was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Everybody they did, Kigy and Zach definitely off of their
condolences and they in they hand if I needed to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
But yeah, that's what it was. So but we do
appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Watch and remember share, share, share like like like comic Comment, Comment,
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Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
What more can we say?