Episode 120: Seven Pillars of Health

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
I've seen worse.

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Than the doctor.

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Just gave me a pill.

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Speaker 1 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years to support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for

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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every

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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
You are listening to the Alternative Healthcare Network.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health advocate, Mark Saban.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh, it's great to be back again, Dot Rick, and
today I wanted to ask you, or start off at
least our conversation and ask you, why does you call
your office Advanced Alternative Medicine Center.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
When I first left my partnership to build a practice
on my own, I was Richerd, a Huntune chiropractor, and
then one day a patient who was in the office
as a patient, been a patient for a little while,
asked for my advice on helping him to find, of
all things, a good alternative medicine practitioner, and I said

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to him, I know the best one out there, and
he said, great, what's the doctor's name. I said, I'm
an alternative medicine practitioner as a chiropractor, chiropractic is considered
an alternative to medicine. So I changed the name of
my office and created the heading in the phone book
for alternative medicine, and out of the words advanced based

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upon the thirty two different techniques that I use in
my practice and my craft, and so we went from
Richard A. Huntun chiropractor to wanting to communicate the name
alternative medicine, created the heading in the phone book, and
then because of all the techniques, it became Advanced Alternative

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Medicine Center.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Mm hmm, I mean thirty two techniques. That is quite
a bit. Is that what allows you to treat people's
overall health and not just their adjustments with what would
typically be done by a chiropractor.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Well, yeah, at the earliest stages of my career, I've
always been about trying to understand why somebody has an issue.
And so when somebody comes in and has a misaligned
vertebrae or what's known as the subluxation in the chiropractical profession,
And I adjust that bone and it goes back and
they feel better, but they come back two days later,
or three days later or a week later, and they

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need the same bone put back. And so for me,
I got frustrated doing the same thing over and over
and over again, because that's the definition of insanity. And
so I started trying to figure out, well, why does
that same bone keep going out as often.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
As it goes out?

Speaker 5 (03:56):
And so I had to start to understand the relationships
between what controls how the body functions with what controls
influencing how the body functions, and so starting to look
for the why a bone would go out of place,
and beginning to understand the relationships between let's say the

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first cervical vertebrae that's actually tied in with your gallbladder.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
So that's interesting because you would think that wouldn't the
bones just be related to the bones, But you're saying
there's a complex relationships.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Significantly more relationships. Every part of your body actually has
a consciousness to it, and when you understand the consciousness
and how that consciousness is expressing itself, it's going to
express itself when it's out of balance in a negative way,
and tracing it back to what it's trying to tell
you about what the body's dealing with, and then supplying

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it with what it needs so that it's no longer
quote complaining. You know, it's like when a three year
old has a temper tantrum, all you want to do
is get the kid to stop crying. So whatever it
is that they want, eventually the parent's just going to
give it to them so that, you know, here's the phone,
take the phone, play with the phone. Whatever it's like,
you just want to get the crisis to stop. And so,

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for me, my motivation has always been trying to understand
why people get sick, why people develop disease. What are
we doing as a society of people to where heart
disease is so prevalent, cancer is so prevalent, diabetes is
so prevalent, high blood pressure is so prevalent, autoimmune disease
is so prevalent, and trying to understand, well, why is that?

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Why do some people get sick and other people don't.
Why do some people develop disease and other people don't.
When they say that it's genetic but not everybody in
the family develops it. What's the difference between the family
member that has genetically the same material as another family member?
One develops it and one doesn't. What's the reason for that?
So I've always been motivated to try to get to

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the ultimate understanding of why somebody has what they have,
and it helped me to evolve in developing the name
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So are those techniques the thing that you used to
discover this answer to the question why? Or is there
some particular method that you use that gets you to
that answer.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Well, the combination of all the different perspectives associated with
all thirty two different techniques, they all approach a health
problem from a different perspective. Like neuro emotional technique is
primarily to deal with emotional imbalances. Contact reflex analysis is
primarily designed to deal with nutritional imbalances. Homeopathy is designed

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to deal with people who have toxicity imbalances. Developing my
own detox program, a twenty three day detoxification program helps
me clean all the garbage out of a person situation.
Having a technique specifically to address a person's allergic response
or sensitivity response, and so there's just all these different

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techniques give me different tools to approach the body and
assess the body in ways that go beyond what traditional
medical testing does. UH in an effort to get to
the underlying reason for why a person starts heading down
the wrong path.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Help Wise, Well, I guess you know.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Medical tests will look at what the problem is. I mean,
you can get an MRI, or you can get a
scan or an ultrasound and you can see, oh, I
see the problem. There's a growth that that shouldn't be there.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Yeah, but that doesn't you're looking for. It doesn't.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
It helps you identify what's wrong, but it doesn't tell
you why it's wrong. I want to understand why. Because
I can't do the medical interventions because I'm not a
medical doctor. I don't have the ability to prescribe medication. Okay,
but my philosophy tells me that taking a prescription medication

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should be your absolute last resort to address a problem
because you've exhausted all the other methods, natural methods to
bring balance back to a person's body. And when that
doesn't happen, okay, well good, now we need to take
out the big guns. But ideally you shouldn't start by
putting a person on medication. You should start by trying

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to understand this is the problem that we found. Now,
let's look for the reason why you have that problem,
because that's what the consumer wants. But that's not the
way that our healthcare system is oriented.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But how do you go about getting the answer to
that question? Why it seems like such a complex question.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Well, we rely on the body's nervous system and the
muscular skeletal system by using a tool that was developed
by a great, great man who's no longer living, one
of my mentors.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
His name was George Goodhart, and.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
He developed a tool called manual muscle testing, which is
the foundational way of assessing the body in the technique
that he developed, which was called applied kinesiology. So kinesiology
is a fancy term for muscle testing. So applied muscle

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testing is applying the muscle testing in a specific way
to help assess how the body's functioning. The challenge with
applied kinesiology is that it's not a very linear technique,
so it's unique to each practitioner because each practitioner has
their level of understanding. So the techniques that I use
in the office that were spawned off of applied kinesiology

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and started using manual muscle testing. They're all very direct relationships.
If we touch the area where your gallbladder is, and
that creates a muscle weakness. While you're touching the area
where the gallbladder is, you're essentially asking the body a
direct question about the function and balance and the health
of the gallbladder.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
You're touching the outside of the body where that organ
is located, correct, and then that actually changes what happens
with the muscular response somewhere else in the body.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
If there's a problem where you're asking the brain to
focus its attention, it's going to indicate that there is
a problem there by taking an indicator muscle, A strong
muscle test all in the clear by itself. If you
just hold your arm out and I put pressure on

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your extended wrist, we're testing a muscle that really doesn't
do anything other than just to determine if the muscle's
working the way that it's supposed to. Now if I
then take my other hand and touch the gallbladder area
or the gallbladder reflex, and now all of a sudden,
your arm weakens, what we've done is we created a

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circuit between the brain, the muscular skeletal system, and the
organ itself to see if there's balanced, harmonious communication within
that circuit known as the gallbladder circuit. And if there's
a weakness there, well good, Now we know there's a
problem with the gallbladder. Now we want to understand why.
So then we can get into ultimately what we're going

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to end.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Up talking about the seven pillars.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
So we'll look at emotion, we'll look at toxicity, we'll
look at nutrition, we'll look at allergy, we'll look at structure,
we'll look at physiology, and for those who are open,
we'll look at if there's a spiritual.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Relationship that goes on with it.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
And so those are the seven pillars, and that's ultimately
how I work with somebody when they come into the office.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
So you're taking this testing methodology to determine where a
problem is and whether there's a problem in a particular area,
and then you're looking further to find out which of
these seven pillars that you just described is actually what

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where you need to put your attention.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Right, So, when we're using the tool of manual muscle testing,
It's a method that relies on the body's nervous system
to communicate feedback to me as a practitioner, true whether
the muscle reacts with strength or with weakness. And since
it's direct feedback without any corruption from the nervous system directly,

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it has been and continues to be the most accurate
way of assessing an individual for weakness and dysfunction.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wow, but how do you tell those subtle differences? I mean,
I wouldn't think it would be like all the way
on or all the way off? Would it be ranges?

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Well, the wonderful thing about muscle testing is is that
if you compare it to how allopathic medicine works. Okay,
in the medical system that we currently have, health insurance
doesn't pay until you have a full blown problem. So
you're fully active with symptoms and the symptoms aren't going away. Good,
Now you have a legitimate reason to go into your

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medical doctor, and they have a legitimate reason to now
start running tests and driving up the bill in an
effort to try to assess why you have whatever the
problem is. But in order to have a problem that
produces a symptom, your body has to be functioning at
forty percent or less, meaning that you've already lost sixty

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percent of normal functioning in order to qualify for medical intervention.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
So you're already down the road of a problem.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
You're more be halfway.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Past the point of no return when you go in
to find the problem. Now, when you come into my
office and I use manual muscle testing, and the specificity
and the effectiveness of the muscle testing, I can find
a deficiency within the nervous system with as little as
three percent loss.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's a lot sooner than you're doing it if you're
getting a symptom.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Right, And so what you would want to know? I
would think what you would want to know when you're
house if a circuit in your house was going to blow,
you would want to know before it actually blew. Okay,
And in your house, what are you going to do.
You're going to go to the circuit board or the
fuse box. Okay, You're going to open up the covering

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of it, and you're going to look at all the
circuits that are associated, and you're going to see, well,
which one is not lined up like all the other
ones are, because that's the one that's got blown. And
what you do in your house, is you just simply
pull the switch back to where it's supposed to be,
and that resets the circuit within your house, and now

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the lights can come back on, or now you could
use your blender, and now you can use your trash
compactor or whatever the heck it happens to be that
was associated with that circuit. Well, in your body set
up the same way. You have a nervous system, that
is the electrical system within the body that runs from
the brain to every aspect and every cell and every

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issue within the body. And as long as the communication
is open and flowing, the body works the way that
it's supposed to. When a body isn't working the way
that it's supposed to, you want to understand. Okay, well,
let's confirm that your body's not working, and then let's
get into understanding why it's not working. So the first
muscle test will be so let's say correlate a particular

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organ or correlate a particular part of the body where
the person has a symptom, and let's get their nervous
system to indicate that yes, okay, we're focused on this
particular symptom. And now I get to go within the
seven different pillars and figure out, well, which pillar is
related to that particular symptom, and then what do we
have to do within each one of those pillars in

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order to correct the problem so that the problem goes away.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
And now that's no longer an issue.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
So that means that you can actually deploy the same
manual muscle testing that you do to find a problem
to actually also find and what the solution might be.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
It's trying to figure out, Okay, where is the problem,
what's the problem based in, and then what do we
have to do in order to eliminate the problem and
get the body to going back to functioning in a
normal level.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And what you're doing, if I understand it, is you're
supporting the body's ability to heal itself.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah, because that's the job of the body. The body
is a self healing mechanism. When it doesn't heal anymore,
there has to be a reason why. And in the
traditional allopathic medical system that is employed in this country
for a majority of every health problem that's out there,

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it's employed in a way where they're going to run
a whole bunch of expensive tests to try to figure
out what's going on with a person before they even
do any intervention, and then once they start doing the intervention,
it takes a much more passive approach. So you go
in and they figure out that you have high blood sugar,

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or you have high blood pressure, or you have high
blood cholesterol. And what are they going to typically do
in order to manage that condition.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well, they usually give you some medication that brings that number.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Down, right, So they're going to have you take medication
to manage your diabetes, manage your blood pressure, manage your cholesterol,
but it doesn't address the reason why you developed high
blood sugar, high blood pressure, or high blood cholesterol. So
my job, because I can't give you the suppressive medications
known to have harmful side effects, is I need to understand, okay,

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for high cholesterol, Well, what's going on with the liver?
Why is the liver manufacturing more cholesterol than is necessary.
There's got to be a reason why the body is
taking a defensive posture to produce cholesterol as they sell
repair product at high levels that potentially could lead to
clogging of your arteries you to have a heart attack.

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Why is the body taking that defensive posture as opposed
to the other side of the spectrum to where the
cells don't produce enough cholesterol, and now the cells fraction
eight and you can get strokes or you can develop cancer.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
This is I mean fascinating because you've basically flipped it
on its head and reversed the whole process to come
from why the problem exists, to unraveling what has caused
a problem, rather than to try to paint over the
problem and just put a patch over it.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
And go on right.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
And so everything in life is about balance. And when
you go in out of balance in one direction, in
the case of your blood cholesterol, if it goes in
the wrong direction too much, that's going to lead to
heart attacks.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
You're going to clog arteries, okay.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
And if it goes to the other side of the
spectrum where you're not producing enough, well, that creates cells
that are weak that are going to fractionate, which can
mutate and that's the definition of cancer. Or you can
break off a piece of whatever and end up getting
a stroke. And so, if we have a healthy level

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of cholesterol, which ideally is between one hundred and eighty
five and two hundred, if you go twenty five points
above two hundred, up to two twenty five or twenty
five points below one eighty five. Okay, now you're within
one standard deviation above and below.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Either one of those is going to come with a
medical intervention to whether either they higher end they want
to give you cholesterol suppressive medication, lower end they want
to give you some other kind of medication to help
deal with the consequences of your cholesterol being too low.
But it's interesting because they never talk about cholesterol being
too low they do. They only talk about high cholesterol.

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And so when a person comes into my office, I
want to evaluate and understand the reason why they have
whatever their symptom is or whatever their medical diagnosis is,
whether it's high blood pressure, whether it's diabetes, whether it's
hypercholesterol emia, or what have you. So my job is again,

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I can't medicate you, So I need to understand, well,
what's the mechanism of cause and how do we support
the body to bring all of those imbalances back into
balance so that the body can just do what the
birthright of every human being is, which is to be healthy.

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Speaker 1 (21:34):
So that was a really fascinating overview of how you
approach health. Now, one of the things that you said
is once you've done this first preliminary analysis or muscle testing,
then you go into the seven pillars of health. So
you describe them very briefly, But what is what are
the seven pillars and let's go into them a little
bit more in depth. What is the first pillar that

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you would.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Say, well, as a chiropractor, I would probably say the
first pillar is structure. Okay, because as a chiropractor I
work with people on their physical structure, their spinal alignment,
and how all their muscles and joints and how everything
is coordinated and working properly. And so lots of people

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think that you go to a chiropractor for low back
pain or maybe even neck pain. If all I was
was a chiropractor, possibly that might be true. But as
a chiropractor that specializes in holistic health, which is looking
at every aspect of your health, I want to figure

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out all the relationships with what it takes to get
your body to maintain itself in a normal balance fashion.
We are physical beings. We are subject to gravity and
other physical traumas, and so it would be important for
the listener to appreciate that it only takes seven days
of a bone being out of normal position for you

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to start changing the integrity of the bone and the
joint and all the relationships that are governed by that
bony joint.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Entity.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Interesting, So I mean, is a chiropractor is the manual
muscle testing that you've been using, is that generally a
part of being a chiropractor or is that something separate.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
It's taught in the school. I mean it was when
I went to school forty years ago. It was definitely
a class that we all had to take. I don't
know what they've done with it since then. I really
haven't kept up with paying attention to the differences in
the education today versus how it was forty years ago.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
But what I can say is that.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
For me, I was introduced to chiropractic by somebody that
practiced kinesiology, and so I was introduced in my first
office is it with him of the concept of manual
muscle testing, and for me, it just made perfect sense. Yeah,
you're literally asking the body directly for what's what. But
in school it's more of an elective. It's more of

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a club. It's you can go outside of school and
you can take seminars. But they don't make that a
focus in the educational process of schooling, or at least
they did forty years ago.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
So are other alternative practitioners using this type of manual
muscle testing that may not be a tyropractice, that might
be in a different type of press.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
I heard a number ones that there's as many as
two hundred and fifty different types of healthcare practitioners that
use manual muscle testing as their way of querying the
body to understand what's out of balance, and so.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It has a wide range of uses.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Then, well, what I've learned and applying it in my
office is the fact that I can use to ask
any question at any time. I can see what my
emotional congruence is with spending money on a particular thing.
I can see what my emotional congruence is with eating
something off of a menu before I even order it,

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so I can muscle test. I can ask the question
of my body for anything to help me navigate life
in a way that I'm more consciously involved and that
I know is not going to impact my body negatively.
It's interesting when people develop food allergies or food sensitivities

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to where their body basically doesn't allow them to eat
a wide variety of foods. They end up getting confined two,
three or four foods, and they're tired of eating those
same three or four foods, so they want to do
something to address that. They don't understand why their body
has limited them in such a way, and so coming
to somebody like me, I can actually help you understand

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why your nervous system has developed such a minimalistic approach
to life and making all your options very very few,
to the point where your life is completely limited, and
open things back up again. I mean, I used to
have food sensitivities. I don't have food sensitivities anymore. Why

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because I want to be able to enjoy life and
not have my nervous system tell me that something's a problem.
But like walking into the Yankee candle factory at the mall,
I can't even go within fifty yards of the Yankee
Candle factory just because the fragrance that comes out of
the store is too strong for my nervous system.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
And I'm okay with.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
That, But just think of the person that's in that store,
that works there six seven eight hours a day, five
days a week. They're being exposed to that level of
fragrance to a point where where their nervous system is
going to shut off, to where they'll tell you that
they can't even smell it anymore. I don't know that
not being able to smell something that is a strong

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fragrance is healthy.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
You know, you think of.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Primitive human beings used to rely on all of their
senses in an effort to survive nature. And you look
at different animals within the animal kingdom, you look at
different plants within the plant kingdom, and we have different
sensory perceptions that help us determine what's you know, healthy

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versus what's going to be you know, potentially damaging to
the the organism itself.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
And so.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
The intelligence that we all have and the intelligence that
that imbuse all of nature, We as human beings don't
necessarily think of trees having a consciousness while they do.
We don't necessarily think of I don't know bees of
having a consciousness.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
While they do.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
You know, every living creature in God's kingdom has a
consciousness to it, we just don't necessarily think of.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
It that way.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
And so trying to help human beings navigate their environment
in a way that they're being proactive and they're being
aware so that bad things don't happen. You know, the
most important rule in life is to pay attention. If
you're not paying attention, I promise you something that you
didn't anticipate is going to happen, and it's probably going

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to inconvenience you either a little or a lot. I
don't like inconveniences. I don't like when things don't flow
the way that they're supposed to. I don't like to
have to work extra hard. So I've already done all
the work that I need to do. Now it's just
about transferring that work to helping other individuals get back
into balance with themselves.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, it's very curious that you know, when we talk
about when you talk about intelligence and the intelligence of
every part of the body or every cell in the body,
one of the things that we need to recognize about
how that works is that your conscious ability to think
is very linear and very focused and very capable. But
your body is doing ten thousand things all at the

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same time without you having to think about it at
all at least, Yeah, and you're not having anything about it.
So back to the topic of these seven pillars we
talked about. This structure is the first pillar. What's the
second pillar that you apply to.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Well, we can just simply go in order. So as
a chiropractor structural the second thing would be starting from
the top of the head and working your way down
would be looking at a person's emotions. Huh Okay, we're
emotional beings, and how we see the world through the
lenses of our eyes influence how we behave what stimulates

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us in a positive way versus what's sti emulates us
in a negative way. You know, you say a low
to somebody and they look at you with a scowl
on their face, and it's like, I'm trying to be friendly.
Why would they have a scowl on their face. Well,
because you being friendly stimulated something within their emotional unconscious
that provoke them to express themselves consciously. But it's all

(30:20):
coming out of their unconscious They're not even aware of it, okay,
And so it's like, all right, so I would want
to help particular person. You know.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
One of the examples that they that.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Doctor Walker, the developer and founder of the technique, would
talk about in the seminars when I used to go
to the seminars, was he would talk about, you know,
you meet you meet some people and they always talk
about a period of time in their life that is
no longer going on, but they always seem to anytime
you see them, they always work the conversation back to
around to the thing that they're most comfortable talking about,

(30:55):
which typically has an emotional attachment that hasn't been resolved,
and so you want to do something to help that
person to move forward in life so that they're not
stuck at that particular stage in their life. Another story
that Scott shared was Scott used to chew tobacco and
it drove his wife crazy, and so she would always,

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you know.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
My word, harp on him to stop chewing tobacco.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
And then she went and got an understanding of why
him chewing tobacco bothered her so much, and she dealt
with that reason within herself, and then him chewing tobacco
didn't matter anymore, and that's when he stopped chewing tobacco. Interesting,
it was almost like he was doing it for her
benefit without even knowing that he was choosing to do it,

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that it was going to have a positive benefit on her.
But initially you get inconvenienced by it, and you know,
people's habits and behaviors, if they irritate you, you need
to look at the reason for why it irritates you.
And then a great majority of the time, once you
deal with that irritation, either you're good now and the

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behavior just stops. Because it was a stimulus to get
you to take a look at that aspect of yourself
or it.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
No longer bothers you.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
They can continue to do it and it doesn't impact
you any way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
So with emotions, how does that relate directly to your health?
Is it to your physical health? Is it to something
beyond just the typical thing we might think of, Oh,
I got a disease, I have high blood pressure. What
does that have to do with my emotion?

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Right, Well, let's take a look at let's use as
a standard for through this whole show. Let's use the
gallbladder as an example. So there's ten emotions that affect
the gallbladder. Those ten emotions are anger, resentment, pissed off, stubborn,
emotional repression, depression, decision, irrationality, frustration, and aggression. So when

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a person experiences I don't know, resentment, you know, they're
getting ready to go home. It's four fifty five on
a Friday, and the boss comes out of the office
and says, can you just finish this up before you
go home for the weekend? And they were already leaving
in their mind, and now the boss is giving them

(33:26):
something they can't say no. You know, the boss emphasized
the fact that it needs to be done before the
end of business, and the guys He's like, all right,
so crap, now I got to do that. So, under
the duress of resentment, under the duress of not wanting
to say anything, under the duress of the frustration, that
person's going to really stimulate to a high degree of certainty,

(33:50):
the gallbladder circuit. So they may get a headache, they
may get heartburned, they may get indigestion, they may get
you know, gas and bloating in the moment.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
So all that from the emotional stimulation of what happened
and how it actually then in turn affected your body.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Right affects the gallbladder circuit. So now they leave the
office and they have a low grade headache, and they
want to go try to enjoy their weekend. And so
the gentleman with a low grade headache is like, you
know what, I want to have a nice weekend where
I was an hour ago versus not where I am now.

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So I'm going to stop at my friendly neighborhood chiropractor,
and I'm going to ask them if there's anything that's
causing that headache.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Now, if they come into my office.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
I'm going to show them all the relationships, including the
emotion that came up as to why they lost control
of their emotional reality because they were enforced to do
something they didn't want to do, and how that blew
their gallbladder circuit and ultimately knocked their first cervical vertebrae out,
putting pressure.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
On the nerve that led to a headache.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
I could just simply adjust the bone, take the pressure
off the nerve, their headache will go away. But the
next time, maybe they go back to work on Monday,
they may still be stewing over that a little bit.
Why because the last time they were in the office,
they were in a frustrated state. So they go back
to their desk and all the papers were where they
left them on Friday evening, and now they're there's Monday morning,

(35:24):
and they're immediately brought back into that emotional reality. Why
because they're all the same components are there, but it's
all going on unconsciously. Persons not even aware of the
fact that how they're being stimulated by their unconscious emotions
that's causing their body to have imbalances. So looking at
the emotions is important because we're all emotional beings. So

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we looked at structure. We just looked at emotion and
how that impacts the body.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
Next step would be going down from the forehead, going
down to.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Both sides of your eyes next to you knows, okay,
and that's a reflex specifically for toxicity or for homeopathy,
checking to see is there any toxicity issue going on
within the body as a result of what's I don't know,
maybe what they ate, maybe what they breathed, maybe what
they were thinking, whatever the case happens to be. So
wanting to assess, Okay, do they have a toxicity reflex

(36:19):
that's out of balance, and what do we need to
do to address it? Okay, if we're going to use homeopathy,
we have homeopathic remedies in the office specific for all
the major elements the five elements that I use in
the office of the five element theory of health. And
so we have a homeopathic remedy that deals with liver,

(36:42):
gall bladder, we have a homeopathic.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Remedy that deals with.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Stomach spleen, pancreas, homeopathic remedy that deals with skin, lungs,
large intestine. So just depending on where the person's problem is,
we're going to ask the question, does it need some
way to detoc to five pretty quickly to take the
stress out of the particular organ, and if so, we
support them with the homeopathic remedy. Okay, so we've gone structure,

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we've gone emotion, we've gone toxicity.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Before you go to the next one, and I really
do want to get to it. We do need to
take another short commercial break to hear from our sponsor,
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(37:53):
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Speaker 1 (38:01):
Now, just before the break I cut you off, you
were just about to get into the next one. We
had gone through the structure, we had gone through emotions,
we've gone through toxicity, so now we must be up
to the.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Fourth right, So the next reflex is one that's typically
going to be positive of on every patient that comes
into the office, and that's for nutrition, and that's a
reflex in the center of your right chest. There's a
little depression there between a couple of ribs, and when
you touch that reflex point and you muscle test somebody,
they're typically going to have a weakness there that just

(38:32):
simply indicates that their body is missing something related to nutrition.
And at that point we can get into understanding. You know,
we've been using the gallbladder as an understanding. The primary
nutritional supplement that we use to help restore balance to
the gallbladder is a supplement called AF beta food, and

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AF beta food has ingredients that helps to stimulate and
promote the natural functioning of the gallbladder. So when the
person's gallbladder is constantly under stressed because they're constantly having
to take orders from a boss and they're constantly being
told to do things that they didn't know that they
were going to have to do, and they're getting their frustrations,

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but they can't express their frustrations, so they become emotionally repressed.
And that emotional repression is going to take a toll
on the gallbladder and it's going to weaken the gallbladder
over time. So what do we need to do to
strengthen the gallbladder. We can reset all the reflexes, but
ultimately everything in life, in order to maintain its strength

(39:37):
and integrity, needs proper fuel. In this case, it would
be food. So we look at the food nutrition specifically
for the gallbladder, and we'll locate that the particular supplement
that we will muscle test in association with the gallbladder reflex.
In direct question about the nutrition, is this particular supplement,

(40:02):
the AF beta food going to be the one that
helps to satisfy the gallbladder reflex being weak nutritionally?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So how did these supplements get determined that that's what
you need? I mean, why just a good diet should
be able to make you healthy. But here you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
A good diet back in the late eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Right, But so now we're dealing with the current conditions.
But also if you're talking about somebody that's putting stress
in that gallbladder in that particular area, and it's getting
weakened because of the continuous stress over time.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
Correct now that it needs some kind.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Of supplementation to be able to restrengthen it, to give
it the nourishment that it needs.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
So that it can rebuild itself and strengthen itself to
go back to being the highest level functioning lawbladder as possible.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
So I guess I'm asking the question, how or why
did you does a certain supplement get determined that it
was going to do that support.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
That's for the giants of the men that I've learned from. Okay,
in a particular technique called contact reflex analysis by Dick Wersendahl,
who's also somebody who's no longer living. He figured out
how to take George Goodhart's muscle testing and apply it
to various bodily reflex points and look at those reflex

(41:21):
points specifically for what are they missing nutritionally to bring
them back into balance. And so that's one of the
techniques that we use in the office, to contact reflex
analysis or CRA. And having studied that and having practiced
that for the better part of thirty five years. To me,
I know what nutrition is associated with which organ or

(41:43):
which gland because I've done it so much, probably millions
of times over the last forty years, and so for me,
it's I don't even have to think about it. I
know what the relationships are. I know what and that's
just the level of efficiency that I've trained myself to
have over the years. And so when we come down
and we look at the gallbladder, we're going to look

(42:05):
at hand on the forehead as emotions.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Two fingers in the canvas of the eyes, which is toxicity.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Two fingers in the center of the right chest that's
nutrition if that weakens in association with the gallbladder. The
primary food supplement is af beta food, but it could
be coaline to help the gallbladder drain itself. It could
be beta call which helps to maintain the relationship with
how the body produces bile and helping it to thin

(42:31):
in such a way so that the body can excrete
it do we need to support the liver, which actually
feeds the gallbladder. So there's a bunch of different things
that we can look at from a nutritional standpoint that
will impact how the gallbladder functions and what it's going
to take to restore that normal function. So, once we've
established what the nutritional protocols are, Okay, now I'll go

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to the next reflex, which is right at the inner
if you're looking at the right chest area as a
clock face, Okay, if you go to the five o'clock
area on the clock, Okay, that's a reflex point specifically
for allergy. Oh really, Now, gallbladder is a normal organ

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that's impacted when somebody develops allergies. Okay, any kind of
food intolerance is probably going to trace back to the
gallbladder because the gallbladder is what regulates the whole digestive system.
So when we look at allergy specifically to the gallbladder. Well, now,
we can have several different things that can create analergy.
It can be something that you're eating, something that you're drinking,

(43:40):
something that you're breathing. It could be heavy metals, it
could be chemical toxicities, it could be well, we mentioned foods.
So we'll look at all those different potential allergy provokers
if that allergy reflex is active, and then we'll pick
the category that seems to neutralize it, and then we'll

(44:03):
go within that category and find the specifics of what
it is. So it may come back as a food,
and then it may come back as a grain, and
then it may come back specifically as barley, or it
may come back as gluten associated.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
With all the grains.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Or it may be I don't know, it could be coffee,
or it could be decaf coffee, or it could be
processed cheese versus natural cheese, could be could be milk,
could be pasteurized milk, or it could be whole milk.

(44:40):
You know, it just depends on what's going on in
the person's life and what is causing the gallbladder to
have issues. So when a person is emotionally stressed out
and they sit down to eat, the nervous system doesn't
separate out the fact that the food is not related
to the emotion. Now, the nervous system just re responds

(45:00):
to all the stimuli going on at the same time.
So if a person is emotional while they're eating, they
can develop an emotional food sensitivity simply because they are
associating The nervous system is associating the food with that emotion.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Almost like when you have memories of some childhood thing
that your grandmother made for you or something like that.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Right, you always want to go to Grandma's house during
Thanksgiving because just the smell of all the food when
you walk into the house is associated with good things
are coming, and it's going to be a feast, and
we're going to have good conversation and good food and
good desserts and we're going to have to pop the
button on our pants and go pass out on the
couch and all of that. Yeah, that becomes That's one

(45:42):
of the reasons why our holidays are so important to us,
because there's a lot of emotion wrapped up in them.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Interesting. So, okay, so we've gone through what five of these, Well,
we went through one.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
So physiology is the bodily process of getting things done
like digestion and moving and thinking and talking, and so
that's the physiology. So when there's an imbalance within the physiology,
you want to make sure that we reset that so
that the body can continue doing things like digesting and

(46:17):
moving and thinking and sleeping and healing in those kinds
of things.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
So after you have I mean physicology, I mean, why
would the body stop working in this normal way.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Well, at the end of the day, it's all due
to stress that leads to overwhelming the nervous system and
resulting in blowing of the circuits. And depending upon how
you're stressing out the circuits, whether through any one of
those six ways, emotions, too many toxins, not enough proper nutrition,

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coming in contact with something that creates an allergic response,
whether you have a structural misalignment, or whether there's a
physiological disconnection. All of those things happen as a byproduct
of stress.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
So stress is the main bad ingredient, but it gets
manifested by all these different varieties of ways of improper
eating or your boss demanding you do something at work
at the end of the day, or relationships.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Or finances, or you know, being caught in traffic, you know,
just anything that stresses a person out and raises the
threshold of what it is that they're dealing with. What
is the natural response to stress in the body mark

(47:41):
to tighten up, right, to tighten up, And when you
tighten up, the muscles of your body attached to the
bones in your spine. And so if you tighten up,
let's say, on the right side versus the left side,
in response to your gallbladder being irritated.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
It could pull out the first cervical vertebrae at the
top of your at the base of your skull, at
the top of your neck and give you a headache.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
It could pull out the bones that.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Are just to the inside of the scapula on the right,
which is the referral spot for the gallbladder, creating tension
within the muscles known as your rhomboids, making it feel
uncomfortable when you move your shoulder. At that point, it
could locate to your low back, low back tension, creating

(48:29):
difficulty with sitting or standing, or walking or bending or
any of those things. So how we internalize our stress
and the organs and glands associated with the internalization of
the stress and the emotions impacts the muscular skeletal system,
causing things to go out of balance, putting nerve pressure.

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And until you restore a normal nerve communication, you're just
going to get stuck in a repetitive loop, and that's
ultimately what leads to chronic health issues.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's so interesting because you came all the way back
to structure, which is kind of where we began on
this journey through the seventh Pillars. Now I think we've
covered have we covered six of them? Now?

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Is there there is a seventh pillar? We we've covered
the sixth we did emotion, toxicity, nutrition, allergy, structure, physiology.
So the seventh pillar is one that is really really
important for me to help a person holistically. And I
want to preface that by saying that that is really

(49:34):
my only focus is to try to help a person
come totally back into balance, and I will only work
with a person to the level that they're interested in
working with me on. I have people that come to
me that don't want any chiropractic because they already have
their chiropractor, And I'm like, as long as you're getting
good results with them, I don't want to interfere. I
don't want to take business away from one of my colleagues.

(50:00):
But you're in my office and you're asking for help
with something else specific. So sometimes it comes up that,
all right, well, this issue relates to a spiritual issue. Now,
we're spiritual beings, we're physical beings, we're mental emotional beings,
and we're spiritual beings and it's the spiritual aspect that
is eternal. Our physical body has limited capacity in our

(50:24):
current renditions roughly seventy nine.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
Years, okay, but spirit live forever.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
And so when we have issues that seem to be
compounded because of a spiritual incongruence and that keeps coming
up within our relationship, as to why this circuit keeps blowing, Yeah,
you can go talk to your reverend, your pastor your rabbi,
you can go talk to whoever helps you deal with

(50:55):
your spirituality. That's totally fine. But if in having conversations
with your spiritual confidant, it isn't changing the outcome of
what's going on with you and why you're in my office,
then ultimately what I want to do is I want
to help to address that. And it's not that difficult

(51:18):
to address. We use the manual muscle testing, the same
we do to find different emotional problems. We just change
the question from being emotional to being spiritual and then
break it down into which particular category associated with the
spiritual aspect of the person in front of me, Which aspect.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
Of that is the one that's.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Being out of balance right now, and what do we
have to do to bring it back into balance.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Well, I think you've done a really brilliant job of
really sort of giving an overview of what it means
to be a holistic healer, to be able to be
somebody that is looking to all the aspects that go
on in a person's life that would affect their health.
I have a particular interest in being able to promote
people back into good health and to help them if

(52:06):
they have a health problem, if they don't have a
health problem, to maintain their health. There are I'm sure
people that are listening to the show that would love
to reach out to you, that would like to know
how best to contact you, because they are all individuals.
We're all individuals. We each have our own particular circumstances
and our own particular questions. What are the best ways
to come about?

Speaker 5 (52:26):
The best way to get a hold of me would
be to call my cell phone directly, which is area
code eight four five five six one two two two
five again eight four five five six one two two
two five. That is my personal cell I will be
the one answering the phone. Unless I don't answer the phone.
That just simply means I'm in with somebody trying to

(52:47):
help somebody, and I couldn't answer my phone.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
But you can leave a message, and.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
I would encourage you to leave a message with your name,
with your phone number, and why it is that you
would like to speak to me, and I will always
call you back. Our current society doesn't necessarily like to
talk on the phone and doesn't like to leave messages,
which I just find fascinating, so people will have a
tendency to text me. The challenge is with texting me

(53:16):
is I'm not very good at looking at my text
and not very good at getting back to people who
text me. But if you want to text me and
take the shot that maybe you'll be the one that
gets me to respond pretty quickly, I'm.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Happy to do that. But I'm old school, so I'd
rather you send me an email.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
My email is doc Rick DC Riick at spineboy dot com.
Spineboy dot com is my main website. It's a wealth
of information. I would encourage you to stop buy that
website and just do some research and looking around and
see if you can find what I've designed specifically to
help you with whatever your condition is. And so whether

(53:54):
you call me, whether you text me, whether you email me,
or whether you contact me through my website, at the
end of the day, I'm just interested in helping you.
And improve your health. This show is called When Your
Health Matters.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
It's not up to me.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
When your health matters, it's up to you, and so
I appreciate your time. I hope this has been compelling.
I hope if you're out there with a health issue
during the holiday season and you don't want to suffer
during the holidays, please reach out to me and give
me a call, and we'll do what we can to
get you back into the game of life as quickly
and as efficiently as possible.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
My position, he said, you're definitely ill.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Then to the nurse. I've seen worse. So the doctor
just gave me a pill. Take one of those three
times a day. You don't ever stop up till you're dirty,
dead or all the better keep out of the reach
of children, things that might be some side effects.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
You probably will.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
We come back