Episode 122: Water

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 4 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
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Speaker 5 (00:36):
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Speaker 4 (01:23):
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Speaker 6 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health advocate Mark Saban.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, I really have arrived in winter now, and according
to Chinese medical theory, this is the season when we
focus on the element of water. So can you explain
for our listeners why now is the time to discuss water?

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Absolutely, But I first want to start off by saying
happy New Year to you, Mark, and happy New Year
to our listeners.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Year to you, Doc.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
So yeah, according to Chinese medical theory, this season is
to focus on the element of water. Water is maximally contracted,
which is what happens in the dead of winter. Things
are maximally contracted due to the cold nature of our environment.
Water is already maximally contracted, which is why it's part

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of the water element. That's where the element gets its
name from. And it's it's because of the time of
year where everything is shut down for hibernation. Nature shuts
down because it's already shed all of its leaves. It's
getting ready to go into a winter sleep before it

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wakes up in the springtime and starts blooming, et cetera.
The energy is highest in our kidneys. That relates to
our processing of water with the help of the bladder,
which will get to next month. And so it's just
it's tied up in nature and how nature runs through

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its cycles, and so the cycle of winter is associated
with water, and water is associated with the kidneys, and
kidneys are most active this time of year in terms
of helping maintain the balance and integrity within the body.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
It may it makes sense. I mean, it's the winter
time when you know, things freeze, and when water freezes,
it forms ice and then it really it stops moving.
So I guess when you're talking about the fact that
your kidneys are constantly flushing and filtering the water and
the liquids in your body. This is really important to

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keep that flow going.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Yeah, it's very very important to keep the flow going.
It's very very important to consume water. It's very very
important to focus on the water element this time of year.
So if anybody that's listening has kidney issues, you want
to focus your intention on trying to support your kidneys
this time of year, because this is the opportunity during

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this time of year for you to create the greatest
amount of change in your kidney function and kidney health overall.
You know, according to the Kidney Federation of Sorts, they
say that you know, anywhere from sixty to eighty percent
of the people that live in this country are going
to develop some level of kidney disease. So this is

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an opportunity for you to avoid that. Your kidney is
your most important organ in the body. So again, it's
important to just really focus on keeping your internal water
flowing and making sure that your kidneys are getting what
they need. And I'm sure we'll get into understanding how
you as a individual can understand the functioning of your

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kidneys as we through this show.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I kind of wonder about you know the fact
that you say it's the most important organ in the body.
And is that because of how much of your body
is actually made of water.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
I've never really thought of it that way. I guess
there is that kind of relationship. I mean, kidney's being
the most important organ of the body. And yes, it
is the part of the body that filters the fluids
and gets rid of the fluid toxins as opposed to
the solid toxins. So it is the primary organ that

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helps the body process water. Our bodies themselves are essentially.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Seventy percent water.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
And then more important than that, we need to appreciate
that our brain is actually.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Eighty percent water. Wow.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
And so when one has difficulty consuming water because they're
drinking other things that are other than water, then you're
going to have issues related to your body's ability to
process water and maintain proper fluid balance.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, you got to I mean what you're all often
talk about how important it is to stay hydrated.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Yes, it's very, very important to stay hydrated in winter
because we can all appreciate that when it's cold outside
and you go outside, you can see your breath every
time you exhale, right, and all of that is moisture.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So you're losing that moil you're.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Losing water every time you breathe out. Now it's not
a large amount of water, but you can actually see
the water vapor that comes out of your body when
you exhale when you're standing outside when it's cold out.
So it's important to make sure that you stay properly hydrated. Again,
the body's roughly seventy percent water and your brain is
eighty percent water, and so if you're not staying properly hydrated,

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the first place that's going to suffer is going to
be the functioning of your brain, which ultimately controls how
everything else functions.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
So well, you know, it's interesting because for the work
that I do teaching tai Chi, the kidney meridian, which
is what is connects to the organ, to the extremities
of the body, actually starts at the bottom of your foot,
So it really is the thing that kind of connects
you to the earth in that way.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
It does, and that's that's an important relationship for our
listeners to understand, and it's important for people preferably not
during the cold months, but it's important for what's gaining
momentum now in society. As society is aware of it.
It's been around for thousands of years, but it's becoming

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popular again, which is this concept of earthing, which is
about walking on the planet with no shoes on and
actually having the exchange of energy between your body and
the planet Earth itself. And that comes in right through
that beginning of the kidney meridian.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Now, is there a fundamental way that you need to
deal with your health in the winter time because of
the coldness of the season that's different than say other times.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Well, yeah, the energy's highest in your water element, which
again is your kidney in your bladder. So that's the
time when you really want to focus on improving their
health and maintaining their health. You certainly want to maintain
it throughout the year, but there are times of year
where it's not necessarily appropriate to be putting so much

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effort into a particular organ because it potentially will backfire
on the individual. And so the importance of what I'm
trying to communicate to the people listening is is how
not to manage the problems that you have, but how
to avoid having problems altogether, and so understanding the importance

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of staying properly hydrated and making sure that you take
care of your kidneys so that you're not one of
the sixty to eighty percent of people that are going
to develop kidney disease according to the Kidney Foundation. You know,
it's just important. Prevention is so much more important than

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managing and treating, which is typically what health the healthcare
industry does.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well and a lot of your work. I mean, if
somebody comes to you with issues around their kidney health
or their ability to deal with the amount of water
they're drinking, that's something that you address kind of at
the causal level, not at the level of just treating
the symptoms.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Right, And so when a person comes to see me,
we evaluate their kidney health as part of our initial
examine consultation, and we give them instructions in terms of
the importance of drinking water. The importance of drinking water
over and above whatever else is it is that you're drinking,

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because water is water, and anything that's not water actually
causes you to lose water through the metabolic process of
processing whatever that liquid is.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, that was going to lead to my question, because
can't you get enough liquid from the other things that
you're drinking, whether it's juices or coffee.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Or well, you can get enough liquid, but you're not
necessarily getting enough water, because when you're drinking something that's
other than water, it may have water as part of
its ingredients, but in order to extract the water from
whatever it is that you're drinking, it has to go
through a metabolic process and run through the Creb cycle,

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which is what turns.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
The ingredients that we're.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Ingesting into energy for the body to use to maintain itself.
That Creb cycle that turns food into energy loses water
every time it cycles through, because water's part of what
is needed in order to break food down into energy.
And so if you're giving off three molecules of water

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for every one molecule of water that you feed into
the cycle, okay, you're losing two molecules of water with
every cycle, more than what you're taking in. So taking
in water, which is more than juice, which is more
than coffee, which is more than you know, any of
the other liquids that we consume that may have water

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as an ingredient, but it's not water. Water is water,
and anything that's not water is something that the body's
going to have to digest. So you want to make
sure that you get enough water in order to maintain
how your body performs this normal function.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
But don't you also say, as I recall that you
don't want to drink that water when you're eating. So
what are the what's the rhythm of consuming the correct amount.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Of well, well, the challenge is is when you're drinking water
while you're eating, what you're doing is you're helping to
wash the food down and through. But what you're also
doing is you're diluting the digestive enzymes and the digestive juices,
which then hinders your body's ability to break food.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Down so that you can get value out of it.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
So ideally, not drinking with your meals is what's going
to allow you to better get more value out of
your food through digestion. So you want to give your
body ample amounts of time in order to digest the
food and then once it's done that, now when it
comes to being absorbed into the bloodstream for utilization by

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the body for whatever the body needs done with the ingredients,
now you want to enhance that absorption by drinking water.
So you don't want to drink water with your meals.
You want to drink water. You know, roughly two hours
after finishing your meal.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now would it make differences to things like age and
gender and how much weight you have.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
Well, the more you weigh, the larger your body is,
the more metabolic processes that are going to go on.
So you need to drink one quart of water for
every fifty pounds you weigh, and you want to do
that every day. So if you weigh one hundred pounds,
there's your eight eight ounce glasses of water or sixty

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four ounces of water. As for somebody that weighs one
hundred pounds, since most adults in this country weigh more
than one hundred pounds, you want to add a pint
of water for every twenty five pounds, or a quart
of water for every fifty pounds. So if you're already
drinking two quarts for the person who weighs one hundred pounds,
if you weigh one hundred and fifty, you need three

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quarts of water. If you weigh two hundred pounds, you
need a gallon of water. If you're an excess of
two hundred pounds, then you're going to need to be
an excess of at least a gallon or more every
single day. And again that's not coffee, that's not juice,
that's not soda, that's not any other liquid that you

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may be consuming. Again, water is water and anything else
isn't water because your body's going to expend water in
order to digest it.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
So are there specific signs that you would have that
would give you an indication that you're not drinking enough water.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Well, a simple sign that you can do for yourself
is is when your hands are hanging at their sides,
most people can actually see the.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Blood vessels on the backs of their hands.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Now, when you raise your hand up to shoulder level
holding out in front of you, if you're properly hydrated,
your blood vessels are still going to be able to
be seen. If you're under hydrated, then your blood vessels
are going to pretty much immediately disappear. So just simply
seeing if you can see your blood vessels versus if

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they disappear when you raise them from your waist height
up to your shoulder height is a simple test that
anybody can do at any time that they want, whether
they're standing or whether they're sitting, and so seeing if
the blood vessels disappear, we'll give you a direct indication
that you need to be consuming more water, and you
might as well go get the water now, since you

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just acknowledge to yourself that the blood vessels didn't stay distended.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
So being thirsty isn't necessarily the correct indicator that you
need to drink more water.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Being thirsty is already after the fact. If you're thirsty,
that your body has already decided that you don't need
water as a luxury, you actually need water as a requirement.
You should definitely go get water because your body's telling
you that it needs more water by giving you the
stimulus of being thirsty.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, would seem that one of the things we're
dealing with in today's more world is that not all
waters are equal, and that that's true, that we actually
have to determine what the best water is for you
to be.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Drinking, right, And so we can certainly do a whole
show on that, but I can just summarize it for
the listener. You want to get water that was ideally
made from nature, that has the less man gets involved
with taking the water from its natural source and getting

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it to you. The less that man is involved in
that process, the healthier the water is going to be.
So the healthiest water is our ties in well water,
and that comes from a confined aquifer that has all
the minerals, et cetera in a most importantly calcium. Then
you have mineral water, which is what they drink in Europe.

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And then we have spring water, which also comes from
a confined aquifer, and any water that comes after that
is not going to be ideal for you to consume
because it's been processed, and the processing of itself changes
the healing abilities that exist in water produced by nature.

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Speaker 2 (18:08):
So we're getting back Doc Grick to this conversation on
water and so many things that are going on with
water now. You know, if you go to the store
to buy water, it's typically coming in plastic, and it's
actually causing more now to buy a bottle of water
than it is to buy gasoline for your car these days.

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But I wanted to find out from you if there
are any considerations that you need to have for what
the containers are that you're getting your water in.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Well, ideally it would be nice if you were able
to buy water in glass bottles or glass jugs. They've
gotten away from that now. They're all in these very thick,
blue tinted plastics that have been treated in such a

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way to not leach all the potential issues that plastic
bottles have. You know that little triangle that has a
number in it that's on the bottom of every piece
of plastic that we have that is related to our food.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Supply or our water supply. Recycling for the recycling and
all of that.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
If there's a number one in that triangle, then you're
only supposed to use that container once.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
You shouldn't refill it.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
So you shouldn't refill it. So people who refill their
plastic bottles, maybe because they like the bottle, maybe because
they don't have any other way to transfer their water,
et cetera. If you're filling up a bottle that has
a one on it more than once, you're actually going
to create issues related to the plastics that are being

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used to hold the water. And so plastics is a
chemical that interferes with how the body functions. I treat
people who have a plastic sensitivity all the time. It
definitely reaks havoc with hormones and their endocrine system. And
so it's our plastic water bottles safe. Yeah, they're safe

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if you use them as they were intended based upon
looking at the bottom and finding that little recycled triangle
that's there and understanding how many times you're supposed to
use that bottle. There are some that have a seven
on it, which means that you can use it without
having any issues related to leeching of the chemicals that

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make up the plastic into the water. But again, if
you could drink out of glass, or even if you
could drink out of a sealed metal container, there's a
bunch of metal containers out there now that people use.
That's better than using plastic for sure.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah. Well, I mean now I'm reading, you know, as
prepping for the shows, about all the microplastics that people
are now even being discovered in people's.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Lungs, right, and so the we just need to understand
what it is that we're doing to ourselves so that
we can avoid the potential dire consequences that will have
a huge impact on our overall health.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So in that light, would you need to filter your water?
Would the filtering help the water be more healthy for you?

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Well, again, that depends if you're getting water from a
confined aquifer, which is the artesian well water type, or
even the mineral type, or even the spring water type.
Just it's just going to depend upon the levels of
calcium bicarbonate that are found in the water along with

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you know, the local immune building properties that you find
in local water. If you're drinking water that has had
all of that stripped out of it, that potentially is
going to create imbalances in the body and create mineral imbalances,
et cetera. So, you know, one of the main waters

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that everybody goes to the store and ultimately ends up
buying is purified water. Purified water is not really water
that people should be drinking. But since we're all germophobes,
certainly as a result of COVID, but certainly was going
on before COVID, most of the water companies sell purified water,

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and that's not a healthy water to be drinking regularly
because it's going to cause your body to leach minerals
and trace minerals out of its own tissues in an
effort to process that water. When you drink water from
a confined aquifer like an artesian well water or a
mineral water or even a spring water, there's going to
be concentrations of minerals in it, and they're known as

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what are called total dissolved solids. And so having adequate
amounts of that is what actually makes a difference to
support your immune system with maintaining proper integrity.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, I suppose a lot of it are living and
drinking municipal water that's been treated and then brought to
your home through pipes through the city. So are you
getting the right kind of water for your health if
you're if you're drinking municipal.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Water, well, that all depends.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
I mean, we just had an incident in Savannah where
we were told that there was a issue related to
the water processing plants that had gotten into the public
drinking water, and we were told that there was potentially E.
Coli in the water supply and that we weren't allowed
to drink water directly from our tap without boiling it.

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And it took a couple of days in order for
them to get that all in order. So, you know,
are there consequences to water treatment facilities In a perfect world,
the answer would be no, But this was certainly a
situation that happened, and I personally don't know what the
rest of my community living just outside of Savannah was

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doing as a results. Were they boiling their water, were
they drinking bottled water?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
You know, what were they doing?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah? I mean, you hear about these ecological disasters in
places where you can't drink the water anymore because there
are toxins that get into it, But it would seem
to me that there's not necessarily a lot of really
oversight on what's going on with public water.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Yeah, and it's just a sad situation that we live
in such a developed world that we still have issues
with some of the basic requirements. I mean, water is
a requirement for maintaining how a body functions.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I mean, and even if you're getting well water, wouldn't
you need to test that to make sure that it's safe?

Speaker 6 (24:47):
In an ideal world, you would before you consider taking
ownership of a new house that gets their water from
a well, you're definitely part of that. You doing your
due diligence before you buy the house is to have
the water tested to see if it's potable and see
if there's any potential microbes in there that would create
a problem.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Now, getting back to other health problems that you might have,
I think you've said this before that you can improve
a lot of health conditions simply by drinking enough water
and being properly hydrated. Is that something you stand by absolutely?

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Like we said in the first section of the show,
your body's seventy percent water, your brain is eighty percent water,
and so if you're not getting enough water, the first
thing that's going to happen is your ability to have
your brain function properly is going to become problematic, and
that's going to lead to errors in terms of what
you're thinking, what you're doing, your ability to perform, et cetera,

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as a byproduct of being dehydrated and directly impacting how
your brain functions. And so the biggest health problem that
every person has on at least in this country is
the fact that we're all walking around functionally dehydrated. And
you might say, well, what does functionally dehydration mean. It
means that you're still functioning, but you're dehydrated in terms

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of the amount of water that the body should have.
So your body is like a marine. It has an
ability to adapt and overcome, but at the end of
the day, you want to make sure that it's got
everything that it needs, and water being the second most
important element that the body needs on a regular basis,

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other than air that being the most important. Obviously, water
is the second most important ingredient. When you don't have
enough of that, then your body's going to start to
break down and have issues.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Now does it matter what temperature water you're drinking. I mean,
I remember hearing a news report one time of it
was actually it was a newscast sportscaster who had had
a very intense workout in the gym and drank a
quart of cold water, ice cold water and had a
heart attack as a result of that. I mean, that

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seems rather anomalous that something like that would happen, But
you know, is that something that you need to be
aware of what temperature the water is?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Well at the end of the day.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
It's fascinating because if you go into any restaurant, the
waiter or the waitress is gonna the first thing they're
gonna do is they're gonna put water on the table,
and the water.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Always has ice in it.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
And I always apologize to the way or a waitress
and I'm like, I'm so sorry you did that, and
they're like, no, we need to bring water. I said, yeah,
but you brought me ice water and I just won't
drink ice water. Is it possible for me to get
room temperature water? And sometimes the person looks at me
with an inquisital, you know, confused look on their face
because they're like, room temperature water. Where would I get that?

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Because the water that comes out of the fountain, so
to speak, is always ice cold. I'm like, well, you
just you know, halfway with the cold water, and then
if you have any warm water, put some the water
that you use for making tea or whatever, just pour
some on top of that, and then it'll neutralize and

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it'll basically come to room temperature. And so I've had
to teach lots of waiters and lots of waitresses how
to do that. But what's really important is that when
you drink cold water, you literally shut off your stomach's
ability to function normal. And so if you're going to
be putting food in and the food is going to

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need to be broken down in your stomach, you don't
want to throw cold water in there, because then you
actually hinder the stomach's.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Ability to do his job and digest the.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Food, and that could lead to issues. Now, thinking about
people drinking cold water and ultimately leading to a heart issue,
what I can imagine is is that if you drink
the cold water and the stomach has a response, one
of the things that may happen is you create a
hydl hernia where the stomach push up through the diaphragm

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and is now sitting in the same part of the
body where the heart sits, and it's going to cram.
It's going to crowd the heart, and it's going to
cause the heart to function irregularly. Could that potentially ultimately
lead to a heart attack. I imagine that it's possible. But
you know, at the end of the day, we should
all be drinking room temperature water, and any other water

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that we drink that's not room temperature is going to
have its pluses and minuses depending upon if it's hot
or cold.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
No.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I mean you mentioned before that you had a scenario
there in Savannah where you had to boil the water.
Is boiling water a generally good idea or does boiling
water actually diminish some of the value you might have
out of good water.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Boiling the water is going to cause the calcium that's
naturally in the water that helps to stimulate and maintain
a healthy, strong immune system, that calcium going to precipitate out.
Sometimes you can get you know, calcium deposits in your
tea kettle because of boiling it and using it and

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never pouring the.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Water all the way out.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
And then what ends up happening is the calcium that's
naturally in the water precipitates out due to the boiling.
If you want to kill pathogens. Boiling water is fine,
but if you don't need to do that, you know,
it's okay to do that for a short period of time,
but it's not something that you should do regularly.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Now, is it possible We were talking about drinking enough water,
but I wonder on the flip side, is it possible
that you could have too much water? You could drink
too much water?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Well, it is possible. It's interesting.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
My youngest brother, he and his friends in college not
the smartest tools in the shed, if you will. They
used to do a drinking game where you weren't allowed
to leave the table, but every time you lost the
hand of cards, you had to drink sixteen ounces of water.
And so after several hands, if you'd lost every hand,

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you pounded, you know, over a gallon of water in
a short period of time. And yeah, if you drink
too much water, you're gonna it's going to back up
and create pressure on your kidneys, which.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Is the worst thing that you would ever want to do.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
And you can actually drink enough water it cause a
person to have a sick response to where they're throwing up.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Now, it's all going to be clear because it's all water.
But yeah, you could. You could drink.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
More water than your body is capable of processing, and
your body's going to let you know that you consume
too much water, and it's probably gonna make you throw
it out.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I mean, a lot of the issues that people have
around things like hypertension, and one of the things that
they try to do with people that have those kind
of problems is get on low salt dice because the
salt actually causes you to retain more.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Water, right it does.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
And so what's important to appreciate is the fact that
your body has an ability to There are mechanisms in
the body that help to regulate your sodium potassium balance
through a gland that regulates your stress response, which is
called your adrenal glands. They produce a hormone that helps

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to regulate the proper amounts of sodium and potassium in
the body.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
And so that.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
Hormone is called aldosterone. And when you're under stress and
you need to maintain your electrolytes, aldosterone is going to
be excreted, which is going to cause you to conserve
and hold on to sodium, which is going to increase
the pressure within your vascular system. Your blood system, and

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it's going to drive your blood pressure up, which is
what you need in order to get more blood into
your muscles so that you can respond appropriately by having
enough blood in your brain and in your muscles so
that if you have to fight your way out of
whatever the circumstance is, you'll be prepared for that. But
when the stress of the circumstances subsides, you're going to

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get a second hormone that helps with aldosterone escape, which
is going to cause your body to get rid of
the excess sodium. So having an imbalance with your sodium
and potassium, which is what a lot of the cardiologists
got into, and a lot of the general practitioners talked

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about you have to have a low salt diet. They
were talking about one half of the equation. They weren't
talking about both has of the equation. Sodium is a
vital mineral that the body needs in order to function
and in order to move things from the outside of
the cell into the cell. So if you don't have
enough sodium, then you're going to have cellular imbalances, which

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ultimately is going to create other problems. So sodium and
potassium are vital nutrients for maintaining cellular integrity.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So once again, I mean, I think every conversation that
we have talking around the issues of health always comes
back to this idea of bringing things into balance. Right.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
It's interesting because what just struck me about having enough
water and being dehydrated and all of that. Anytime a
person is admitted to a hospital, the first thing they
do is they hook them up to an IV because
they want to get their fluid levels at an appropriate
level before they do anything, because ninety five percent of

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people that walk into a hospital are typically dehydrated.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
And that water that they put into you through that
has a salt content to it.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It does. It's not it's a sailing, it's a saline yah.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
But what they're trying to do is they're trying to
increase your fluid levels, and by adding a little bit
of salt to the water that they're injecting into you,
that's going to help you retain more water so that
you're no longer functionally dehydrated.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Which is typically the reason why you ended up in
the hospital to begin with.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Well, fascinating conversation, Doc Grick. It's time for us to
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Speaker 2 (36:11):
Network and we're back, and we were talking earlier in
the show about the different types of water, what types
of water best for your health, and why they're better
for your health. So i'd like to get into a
little bit more detail about that and why it's important
to know what kind of water you're ingesting and what

(36:31):
the values you might be getting from it.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Absolutely, so what so is one question?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
My first question really is is sort of a departure
from that a little bit, because when you travel and
you go to different regions, oftentimes people are told that
they're going to get sick from drinking the local water.
But it would seem that it's water is water, So
why would that suddenly change? And if it was well

(36:59):
water that you were getting in a different country, why
would you get ill from that well?

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Because in different parts of the world, there are different
microbes associated with the different parts of the world. So
the microbes that are found in New York City are
different from the microbes that are found in say Savannah, Georgia.
The microbes that are in California are different from the
microbes that are on the East Coast. Certainly, if you
go to Mexico, the microbes in Mexico are different from

(37:27):
the microbes here. The microbes over in Europe are different
from the microbes that are here. So depending upon where
you go, all the microbes indigenous to the area, local
to the area are going to find their way into
the water supply and So one of the ways that
and the research that went on is if you want
to develop immunity to what's going on in the area,

(37:49):
you want to consume the water in that area. But
the difficulty is if you travel. Because we can travel now,
we can travel around the world, we can travel across
the ocean, we can travel from north to south, and
if we're drinking water that is unique to that area,
it's going to expose us to microves from that area

(38:09):
that our body doesn't have any ability to understand because
it isn't local.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
To the area that we normally live in.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
So by consuming water from a different country, you're going
to get exposed to the microves that are normally found
in that country, which may overwhelm your system and create
some level of stomach upset.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
So you can't strengthen your immune system to be able
to handle the different waters.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
If you're traveling, well, you can, but when you're traveling,
you want to make sure that and this is an
opportunity for one to promote and push which is the
type of water that I don't necessarily recommend to people,
which is why companies started purifying water because they wanted
to make sure that there was nothing in the water,

(38:57):
and they were going to capitalize on that as a
brand basically distributed to all the people that are coming
to that particular area.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
And so.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
But at the end of the day, there's downsides too,
which we just touched on briefly before the last commercial break.
There's downsides too purifying water because now you're taking out
the properties that are necessary in order to stimulate and
promote normal immunity.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Was that purification process like pasteurizing dairy products? Is that
similar to what?

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Interesting that you would say that, Yeah, it's very similar
to that.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
So because I mean, if you're going to a foreign
country and you're drinking bottled water which has been somehow treated,
you may not be suffering the consequences of drinking say
the local water from a.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
Well, right, and it's better for you to drink bottled
water when you go to another country because then that
water has been treated in a way that it's not
going to create a problem for you. My suggestion would
be to go with the higher end waters, your artigen
well water like a Fiji or your mineral water, which

(40:07):
is really all they drink over in Europe, and you
can get it with gas or without gas, But mineral
water has got higher concentrations of total dissolved solids, meaning
the minerals or the local spring water. There's going to
be an adjustment period for your body to whatever the
local water is that you may get out of a

(40:28):
tap when you're brushing your teeth, or you may get
in the restaurants. Most restaurants now have some kind of
water treatment system in the restaurant itself, because the last
thing restaurant people, the people that own restaurants want to
do is have people get sick because they ate and

(40:48):
drank at their restaurant. So for the most part, have
water solved as far as worrying about getting sick when
you go to a different kind tree. But you just
need to understand what it is that you may be
doing to yourself by taking on a purified water as
your main water source going forward in your life.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Now, there are other types of water. I mean, you
mentioned artesian well water and purified water spring water, So
I've also heard about things like alkalin water and reverse
osmosis water. Can we at least address what those are
and why they would be beneficial or they would be harmful?

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Well, Alkaline water is water that increases the pH above seven.
There are machines out there. There's actually a company called
Kangan which produces alkaline water. It produces akal and water
at the same time while it produces acidic water. But
the ascidic water goes out as a waste product and

(41:52):
the alkalin water goes out the type of water that
the machine is actually trying to create. The challenge with
drinking alkalin, whether it's a pH of eight or eight
point five or even nine or higher, is the fact
that that's not the pH that the body actually needs.
The body needs the pH of the water to be

(42:14):
pretty much right around seven, which is neutral. It's not acidic,
and it's not alkaline. It's right spanking in the middle
of the pH scale. And that's ideality what human beings
should be consuming. But for a short period of time,
you can create a pushing response or a pulling response
by changing the acidity or the alkalinity of the water,

(42:36):
But you don't want to be drinking it all that much.
You know, you use acidic water that comes out as
the waste product of that cagan machine I just mentioned,
You can use that as a cleaner because the acidity
of it is going to act as a cleansing ability
that you can get just simply from water with no
chemicals or anything in it.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
But again, ah, that's above eight eight and a half nine.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
Now you're going to be leeching minerals out of your tissues,
which is going to lead to other problems going forward.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
And so I mean this is something that I've heard
that people's bodies are too acidic, or that our diets
are too acidic, or we aren't alkaline enough.

Speaker 7 (43:21):
Well, they do talk about that, and no disrespect to
those people at all, because they're on a quest for
knowledge and they learn a piece of information and they
think that that answers.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
The be all end all.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Suffice to say that God is smarter than human beings,
and God produced a buffering system within the body. And
so there are different parts of your body that are acidic,
like your stomach. There's other parts of your body that
are alkaline, like different parts of your intestines, And so
your body has a buffering system that helps to maintain
the proper pH in the different parts of the body.

(43:54):
And that's something that you really can't mess with. Yeah,
you could put in alkaline water and you could drink
alcol and water for long periods of time, and ultimately
what's going to end up happening is you're going to
start leaching some of the alkalin ash minerals out of
your system, which is ultimately going to create a mineral imbalance,
which is going to lead to problems in terms of
your body being able to perform normal physiology. So it's

(44:17):
it's there's a lot of information out there. There's a
lot of gimmicks that are out there. There's a lot
of half truths that are there to sell products and
create businesses and that kind of stuff. And you know,
that's one of the reasons why I have such a
passion for doing this show is I want to cut
through all the rhetoric that's out there. You know, you

(44:39):
get a good marketing plan for a particular company selling
a product, and pretty soon everybody has that product. You know,
I watched there are water bottles out there now, specifically
specific types of water bottles that people are paying upwards
of thirty forty fifty dollars for a water bottle to
carry their water in. And it's like, okay, why Because

(45:02):
if you're in the know and you get you know,
then people are going to think that, Wow, look at
that person with their cool, expensive water bottle.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I'm not that person.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
I'm going to keep things real basic because when we
get away from the basics, we have a tendency to
create unintended problems that we're not smart enough to understand
how we're creating them.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Now, that type of water I mentioned was is reverse
osmosis water? What is reverse osmosis and why would that
make water better or not as good for you?

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Well, reverse osmosis is a is a process of it's
it's a filtration that puts it through a filtering barrier
and it collects the water that comes out.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Through the filter.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Because it's put through that process, it's not ideal because
all these filtered waters are filtering out the total dissolved
solids that A is necessary in order to support healthy
immune function and physiological function within the body. And so
when you're putting it through any kind of filtration system,
what you're doing is you're removing those vital minerals that

(46:11):
you should be getting, which is why artes in well
water is probably the best water to drink because it's
got the highest concentrations of total dissolved solids. So any
kind of other water treatment process, like a reverse osmosis
is mucking with minerals that are naturally contained in water

(46:31):
made by God, if you will.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Now there's another one where you could treat water with ozone,
and I know you can use that for hot tubs
and pools and things like that. Would you ever drink
water that's treated with ozone?

Speaker 6 (46:48):
I wouldn't suggest doing that because unless it's been filtered
after it's been treated with the ozone, Because the ozone
is there to kill pathogens and that's why they use
it in hot tubs and that kind of stuff. But
if there's nothing to collect the carcasses of those pathogens
that the ozone is killing, then yeah, now you're consuming

(47:12):
microbes that you probably wouldn't want to be consuming.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Now there's there's another thing that I also read about
which sounds dangerous to me, which is irradiated water. Have
you had any experience of finding out information about that.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
Well, the irradiated water is water that happens in these
energy plants that are using you know, I hesitate to
use the word nuclear, but in the nuclear power plants,
et cetera that they use to generate electricity, it's and
and that kind of stuff. Irradiated water is found there.

(47:52):
There are people who will take a cup of water
and put it in the microwave and they will microwave
it in an effort to try to heat it up,
and there's been some pretty interesting injuries associated with that
because by putting a tea cup of water in the
microwave and heating it up, the charge within the water

(48:14):
is very, very unstable, and when you touch the water's surface,
it may create a chain reaction that literally causes the
water to explode, and so you'll burn yourself and that's
not a pleasant thing to do. So, but yeah, irradiated
water typically is associated with water that's been treated in

(48:37):
such a way that it's it's a waste product that's
not really water for consuming.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Now, what about having electrolyte water where they've been electrolytes added.
Isn't that something that's important for your body?

Speaker 6 (48:51):
Well, electrolytes are important, So when they add electrolytes to
the water, they're trying to increase the value of the
water and try to help you out. If you're somebody
that exercises and sweats a lot and you're losing a
lot of your electrolytes. Well, here's the water that helps
you replenish those electrolytes. You know, I'm not a big
fan of Gatorade or power Aid or any of those

(49:12):
other drinks because my perspective is, and what I've seen
is that they're entirely too concentrated. So my thought is
is if you're going to be drinking any of those
types of waters that have electrolytes added to them, that
you're going to want to dilute them so that the
electrolytes aren't so concentrated that ultimately creates problems when you

(49:33):
consume them.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Now, you mentioned water that's you know, bubbly water, you
know carbonated water. There's naturally carbonated water that comes out
of the ground with carbonation, but then there's carbonation that's added.
Are those two different things? And does it make a
difference to the water you're drinking whether it's carbonated or not.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
Well, one is nature made, one is man made. There's
going to be subtle differences to that. But you know,
carbonated water is just adding more carbon to the water
to carbonate it and give it bubbles, and those bubbles
ultimately want to escape. And so when you add air
to it. When you release the pressure on the bottle

(50:17):
that has the carbonation in it, you're going to hear
the gas releasing. And as you drink that water, it's
you know, people may like the fizziness of it and
the bubbles associated with it. But in the carbonated waters,
they're typically high in phosphorus, which is going to leach
some of the calcium out of the system to maintain

(50:38):
the proper calcium phosphorus ratio ratio. And so if you're
drinking waters that are high in phosphorus, you're actually potentially
causing demineralization of your bones.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, I think I heard that, Like with sodas and
things like that, which I know is not something you're
particularly in favor of people drinking, but people do drink
sodas that that can be a consequence of those kind
of carbonated beverages.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
Yeah, and with the things like coca cola or pepsi
or what have you, you have a higher concentration of phosphoric acid,
and again that's going to help to impact how your
body processes and maintains calcium levels within the body. So

(51:25):
we know that calcium is the most abundant mineral in
the body, seventy percent of your body is made up
of calcium, and so anything that's going to lower that
threshold is going to create problems in your immune system
and your muscle skeletal system, and your nervous system and
all the different physiological properties that go on in the
body that are dependent upon calcium.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Well, this has been a good conversation, Doc, Greg. We're
just about out of time, but before we go, I
want to give you a chance to just let people know,
if they have their own personal questions, what are the
best ways to reach out to you.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
Well, the best way would be to call my cell
phone directly. I'll give you my cell phone number, which
is area code eight four five five six one two
two two five Again eight four five five six one
two two two five. I'm the one that will answer
that phone. So if you want to speak to me,
that's the best way to do it.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
There are people who are a little bit reticent to
want to talk to the doctors directly.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
They will sometimes text me. I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm not a good texter. I don't really pay attention
to the texting aspect of my phone because I didn't
grow up texting. Uh, So it may take me a
little while to even realize that I got a text
and to get back to you. But a better way
to get a hold of me would be to email

(52:44):
me directly at doc Rick at spineboy dot com, d
O c ri c k at spineboy dot com. I'm
constantly checking my email. I'm constantly getting back to people
because that's essentially how I was raised as an adult,
is through email. But calling me, texting me, emailing me.

(53:06):
You can always stop into the office any day that
I'm there. I would be happy to meet you. I'd
probably give you a brief evaluation based upon your questions,
just because I'm a curious individual. So those are the
best ways to get a hold of me. If you're
out there suffering with any kind of health imbalance, I
want to help you don't suffer any longer than you

(53:29):
already have. It's a new year, It's time to turn
over a new leaf. Let's get your health in order,
and let's do what we have to do in order
to make your health better. So I want to thank
you for tuning in. I want to wish everybody a
happy new year. I askual you a tune back in
next week, same health time, same health station. This is
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I'll look forward to supporting you when you're health mattered.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
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Speaker 1 (54:01):
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Take one of those three times today.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
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keep out of the reach of children.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
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Speaker 7 (54:14):
Probably will well limits of facts.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
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of the film. On top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, on top
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Speaker 2 (54:24):
That, and ready showed me a bill.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
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Speaker 1 (54:33):
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What was just an itchy finger.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Now is the swollen put doctor ripeing out of breath.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
And I've never walked up a hill.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Avoid all die from exercise.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I'd rather give you a pill.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
The things that might be some side effects