Episode 128: Liver

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician. He said, you're definitely ill. Then to
the nurse, I've seen worse.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Than the doctor.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Just gave me a pill. Take one of those three
times today. You don't never stop on till you're really dead. Er,
alf better keep out of the reach of children. The
thing is that some side effects, you mean, the probably
will well limits of.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Fact you can't come.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'll give you another film. On top of that, on
top of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, and then
he showed me his bill.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years to support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for

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Speaker 5 (01:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Huntun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health Advocate, Mark Saban.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So, now that we enter March, we're going to be
talking about the liver. And I wondered why this is
the season or the time of year that we focus
on the liver.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well. According to the Chinese theory of health, the springtime
is the time for liver energy, new growth, and the
body's abilities support new growth that mimics nature's new growth
in the months and the season of spring. And so
liver being what all all things get processed through the liver,

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and as you know, we want to make sure that
the liver is functioning well and since the energy is
shifting into the liver the first day of spring in
a you know, about two three weeks, we want to
appreciate and support that energy so that you can create
the greatest amount of change within your health by supporting

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the liver.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And liver is part of the in the elements. It's
it's a wood element, and so that's like plants and
trees are growing at that time of year as spring
comes around and the leaves start to turn green. It's
that sort of energy that we're talking about is also
paralleled in the body.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
In the body, Yes, exactly, it's paralleled in the body.
And the part of the body that houses is that
or supports that energy and supports that energy contained within
the body is through liver function.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now, one of the things that you have referred to
sort of takes us back to your New York days,
is you call the liver the Grand Central Station.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Why is that because like Grand Central Station, all things
pass through the liver on their way to their final
destination in the body, either for health or for excretion.
And if you've ever stood in the center of Grand Central,
it's a very busy place where people are coming in
or people are going out, of the city through the

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you know, the trains and the subways, and you can
get a taxi or you can catch a bus, and
so it's a hub for all things passing through on
its way to its final destination. And so the liver
is the same access the same thing within the body.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So interesting. I mean, when you ingest food, it goes
through your mouth and to your stomach, through your small intestine,
and that's where it actually gets absorbed into your bloodstream,
and from your bloodstream, the next stop is really the liver.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Correct And so when the food gets into the bloodstream
after it going in through your mouth, and hopefully you're
chewing it well enough and sending messages to the other
parts of the digestive system and giving them a heads
up in terms of what's coming. And that's a byproduct
of chewing your food well. If you don't chew your

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food well, then you're probably going to suffer from digestive
upset and indigestion and poor assimilation. But if it's working
the way that it's supposed to when it gets to
the stomach, the stomach is where the strongest acid in
the body is to help burn up anything including pathogens
as well as help to break down proteins. And then
when it leaves the stomach, it goes into the first

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part of the small intestine called the duodenum. And in
the duodenum we have the entrance of the bile ducts
that takes the liver contents, concentrates them in the gallbladder
and then dumps them into the small intestine to help
them ulsify and break up fat. And then you get
some other digestive enzymes that come out of the pancreas
to help to break down your sugars. And once it

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gets past that first part of the small intestine, in
the central part, the jujunum part of this small intestine,
that's where most of the absorption takes place into the
blood before sending it all the food material to the
liver for future assignments, if you will.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And it's interesting because like the digestive organs are basically
tubes or or hollow. The stomach is, you know, as
it holds things, but the liver is a very dense organ,
all right, because it's a filter, right, That's what I
was going to ask about. So what is the filtering
function and how does that? I guess your blood passes
through the filter and some thing's stick in the liver

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or liver. What does the liver do at that point.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, So, the liver supports detoxifying the body and coordinates
hormone production and muscle joint and tend in health and
the health of your eyes and your vision. And so
when you have the filtration that's going on, it acts
as a filter to do just that. It filters through
the incoming blood that came from the intestines to discern

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what it is that finishing up the discernment. The small
intestines chief job is to discern what it holds onto
versus what it doesn't hold on to. And if it
has issues with that level of discernment, then the liver
is a second opportunity to filter out what the body

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needs to hold on to versus what it can dump
back into the intestines for excretion. And so that's essentially
what the main filtering aspect of the liver is is
to consider everything that comes into the liver and determine
what it needs, what ingredients are needed by the body
in order to maintain, in order to repair and rebuild

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aspects of the body and hormone production and whatever other
ingredients that come in through the completely refined and processed
foods that we're eating, et cetera. The dirty air that
we breathe in, the things that come in through our skin.
All of that gets sent to the liver for inventory

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and understanding whether we're going to hold it on and
use it or whether we're going to just discard it
because it's not useful.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So if it's discarding from the liver, I mean, I
understand that you were talking about the large intests or
small intestine being discerning, so because that's where things cross
into your blood in the digestive right.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
That's when it first actually gets into the body proper.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Right, But other things are getting in, as you were saying,
through your breath, through your skin. So I understand how
it gets from the small intestine and then to the liver.
Now that it's in your blood and it goes it
goes through the liver. Now that filtering process, there are
gonna be a lot of things that are in your
blood that you don't need. Where do they get eliminated too?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Back into the intestines, and they go through the small intestine,
they no longer need to be absorbed. Then they go
into the large intestine, and the large intestine basically concentrates
them all into your fecal material and then you dump
it out and into the bowl.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, all right, Now, clearly with any filter, the filters
eventually start to get dirty. What happens when the liver
filter starts to get dirty.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Well, the first thing that's going to happen is you're
going to get inflammation and inflammation of your joints. Because
the liver controls all muscles, joints, and tendons. So when
you get inflammation of your muscles, joints, and tendons, they
call that a condition known as arthritis. You're going to
develop eye health issues, and you're going to have poor
function due to hormonal imbalances, and you're going to have

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poor healing as a result.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Okay, So now with that idea of inflammation, because my
next question is about you call deliver the angry liver,
and I guess if things are inflamed, that is and
this essentially what angry is, what anger is.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Right, and so when a body doesn't get what it needs,
it essentially acts like a three year old and has
a temper tantrum, and that's the inflammatory response. And so
the chief emotion that's stored in the liver and this
process through the liver is the emotion of anger. And
so I call it an angry liver simply because that's

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the chief emotion that speaks to you when your liver
isn't working properly.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know, one of the interesting things is that anger
is an emotion that is most easily accessible. I was
watching a film the other day about prisoners who are
doing theatrical work, and the one of the inmates who
was playing a part was very was only being able
to portray anger. And they told the me, you know,

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anger is easy, and it seems like anger is one
of those things that we see just ubiquitously around us everywhere.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, it is because when a person doesn't understand what's
going on in their environment and they become confused, the
natural response to the confusion where they don't know what
their next step is. The first emotion that somebody is
going to experience when they lose control is anger.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Interesting. Interesting? I mean, everybody gets angry in it. I mean,
so what differentiates it becoming a problem versus just being
something that passes through you.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, that's when you lose control of it. Expressing anger
is not a problem as long as it doesn't affect
others negatively. Anger actually creates movement. Anger actually creates, you know,
progress within the process that one is experiencing because anger
promotes taking action.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mm hmm. So what can anger do in terms of
your health?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Uh, Suppressing it creates internal damage and externally expressing it
creates damage as well. So it's it's.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I mean, that's that's a that's a narrow range. If
if it's too much is no good and not and
not expressing it is also problematic.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Right, So you need to have an outlet for expressing
those types of emotions that come up in the course
of your day. And when you have a good outlet
for it, whether it's exercise, whether it's talking, whether it's reading,
whether it's uh, something that is actively allowing you to
process the emotional reality that's going on within your head

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in such a way that you're able to process it
to its completion. A lot of people don't have the
tools in our society to process it to completion, and
if they find themselves in a difficult life circumstance like
all of us, like I went to the grocery store
the other day and a dozen eggs was over ten

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dollars when I used to pay a dollar and a half.
And it's just okay, So what's the emotion. I guess
I'm not getting eggs today, but I like to have
eggs every day, and so I'm not getting my eggs.
So now my whole world has been disrupted because my
normal habitual pattern that has kept me healthy and level

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headed and stable and able to focus on helping other
people instead of worrying about my own issues. Well, now
I'm a little bit more aware, hyper aware if you will,
the fact that I have to change the way that
I deal with things. And most people don't like change,
which is ironic because life is perpetual change, and so

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the fact that we don't like change depending upon how
you process that. Do you express it in an angry
way or do you express it in a pollyanna ish
sort of way to where you're like a screen door
and it just passes through you. You don't get attached
to it. You know, that's a much healthier response. But

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when we've taken a lot of time, energy and effort
to invest in what it is that we're creating, and
it doesn't go the way that we want to. Anger
is a natural response, but you just have to know
how to temper it in a way to where it's
not hurting you and it hopefully definitely shouldn't be hurting others.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
So I mean this raise is the question does the
do the liver imbalances lead to anger or does the
anger lead to the liver imbalance?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
And I'm going to say yes, a clogg liver will
create anger, and being angry is the functioning of the
liver leading to it being clogged.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh so both ways, it can be either way.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, you'll get it coming in going.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
So what I know when you get your blood tested
that must show you certain things about your liver function.
What does that actually tell you?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Well, if you order the right test called the complete
Metabolic panel or what's known as a CMP, you will
get the liver functions of the three liver enzymes. You
will get cholesterol, it's breakdown into the good and the
bad and the undecided. You'll get your triglycerides and your
blood glucose and all of these measures tell us about
your liver function and the stress that's actually going on

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in the liver. And so taking though, that complete metabolic
panel is very, very important, And when when I feel
it's important to send any one of my practice members
for blood work, I just always order the same two tests.
I order a complete blood count or what's called the

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CVC with a differential that's all your red and white
blood cells and the different fractions within it tells about
the transportation system and the immune system. And then I
order a complete metabolic panel, which tells me how the
body's processing food if it's having problems. Is the type
of food that the person's eating that isn't real food?

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Is that's starting to manifest in stress on the body
and on the liver. Is it driving up the bad cholesterol?
Is it driving up the total cholesterol? Is it leading
to too much inflammation within the body. And so I
get all the information that I need just from those
two simple tests, and I just find it fascinating that

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you know, once health insurance gets involved, they will parse
that out. I remember early on in my career, when
I established a relationship with a local lab local to
where my office was up in New York, I could
get a complete metabolic panel and the complete blood count

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with a differential for thirty eight dollars.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
That's not a bad price.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
And then insurance got involved and it became more about
making money, and so now you can't get a complete
metabolic panel. You have to order it in parts. So
you have to order the liver panel, you have to
order the lipid panel, when realistically those are the same tests.
But if it allows the insurance carrier to charge for

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each particular aspect of what used to be involved in
a complete metabolic panel, now they've separated out into a
bunch of different fractions, and what used to be involved
in the thirty eight dollars is now up over five
hundred dollars, and in some labs it's going to be
up over one thousand dollars. And it's just it doesn't

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need to be that way. But that's another thing that
can create anger in our societies. Mean healthcare, certainly.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
If you look at healthcare costs, because I get you
know things that come back, and what it will show
you is that the amount that they charge for it
to the insurance companies and the amount the insurance companies pay,
there's a big gap between what the insurance company pays.
They pay a lot less than what you would be
billed for as a client, and so if you were

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the patient and you wanted to pay for it out
of pocket, you actually end up paying substantially more than
the insurance companies will pay for the same exact test
or treatment.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Right, And realistically, that's just ridiculous. My wife was having
some bowel issues, and she always seems to have these
issues when I go out of town. So I get
a phone call and she's telling me this, that and
the other thing, and I'm like, well, you need to
go get an ultrasound. So she goes to the place

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where I refer people to to get ultrasounds or X
rays or whatever, and they're just like, no, we need
a doctor's note. Well, my husband's name is doctor Ontune.
He refers patients here's all the time. And they're like,
we don't care, we need a doctor's requisition. And she's like, well,
I'm paying for it myself, doesn't matter. We still need
a doctor's requisition. So she had to go pay two
hundred dollars at an urgent care center just to get

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a sheet of paper so that she could go get
an ultrasound, which you had to pay the two hundred
dollars for the doctor visit, which was retarded. Then she
went to the ultrasound and they did the ultrasound, but
they didn't do the ultrasound over the area where she
had the problem. They said, oh, if you wanted that
area done, then we had to order a completely different study.

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And she's just like, well, why can't you just do that? Well,
you would need a doctor's requisition in order for us
to do that. And so ultimately they found that she
had this little irritation. So now she had to go
for a colonoscopy to understand exactly what it was. Well,
we don't have health insurance because I don't believe in
paying for something. But my health insurance is just the

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way that I live my life. You know, I haven't
been sick in over thirty eight years, and so I
don't believe that I should be spending eleven hundred dollars
a month for something that I'm never going to use.
So we go to get the colonoscopy. We go sit
and meet with the doctor and he's just like, so,
let's schedule you for that. And so my wife is like, well,

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I need to understand something. We don't have health insurance,
so I need to know what it's going to cost.
He's like, oh, well, I'll sit you down with a
financial person and they'll tell you this, that and the
other thing. And at the end of the day, my
wife had to make a value judgment did she want
to spend that much money in order to have a
simple procedure. And what you were just alluding to is
the fact that if we had health insurance, the health

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insurance probably would have negotiated less than a third of
what we paid.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
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Speaker 2 (20:50):
As we're talking about the liver health, I wonder you
know one of the things that you do is in
your practice is that you are able to identify people
who may have an imbound Well it's long before any
kind of symptoms show up that you could really tell
that you had something wrong with you. So I wondering
what type of issues might you be heading towards. If

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you have a liver.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Imbalance, well, you're definitely going to start to develop eye
health issues. Your vision's going to change, your prescription for
your vision may get stronger as you get older, and
your vision the eyes tell you about the health of
your liver, and the functioning of your eyes tells you

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what's going on in your liver. And so when you
have ie health issues, that's going to ultimately trace back
to the liver. So anybody that has glasses or has
night vision problems or blurry vision of any sort, or
they got to have one pair of glasses for seeing

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things close up, one pair of glasses for when they drive,
and that kind of stuff. All of that is a
byproduct the liver stress. The primary thing that is a
result of liver stress is arthritis. All arthritis is too
much garbage in your liver. And when you consider all
the things that we put into our mouth that ultimately
creates problems in the liver. I guess the thing that's

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most ironic is the treatment. The medical treatment for arthritis
is what medicine? Medicine and where's that medicine need to
be processed? Right? So what they're doing to solve your
arthritis is actually growing more arthritis.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
So is the arthritis the accumulation of that those toxins
or that unwanted material in your joints.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's certainly one way to consider it. So when the
liver is overwhelmed with what it is that is trying
to deal with, it's going to send it out to
its storage depots. It's storage depots are your muscle, your joints,
and your tendons, and so the muscles attached to the
joint through the tendon. And so if the liver is

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sending out all of its residual frustration, all of its
residual resentment, all of its residual anger, all of its
residual depression. Those are all emotions that affect the normal
functioning of the liver. The person who has depression is
going to start to develop muscular scaleteal issues. And what's

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interesting for me is the diagnosis of fibromyalgia. I promise
you the person who has fibromyalgia has depression, and if
I help them express their depression, then they will no
longer have fibromyalgia. But the challenge is is the medical
profession has done a Jedi mind trick for all the
people that come in with fibromyalgia. There's no test that

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they can do to diagnose fibromyalgia. It's a diagnosis based
upon exclusion. It's not any of these things. But this
is what explains it, even though we don't have a
test for it. So we're going to give you the
diagnosis of five miriangia. And the sad part is is
I had a conversation with a woman on the phone
the other day who called me because she saw an
ad that I had and she wanted to know a

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little bit more information. And then she shared with me
that she has fibromyalgia, and I said, well, I'm very
sorry that you have that. I said, if you ever
want to get it truly fixed instead of suffering and
taking medication for the rest of your life, I would
be happy to help you understand how that goes about.
And she's like, fiber momialoga can't be fixed. I said, well,

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I understand that's your understanding of it. I said, but
I fixed it all the time. And when you're ready
to open yourself up to seeing that there are alternatives
to what it is that you've been led to believe
is to be all end all, I said, I could
probably change your world and change your outcome, but I

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could just hear on the phone that she wasn't. I
was offering her a reality that was so anti what
she already believed that there was never going to be
a day in the next thousand years that she was
going to come around to even being willing to just
see if there's an opportunity for a different outcome.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Well, it would seem to me that somebody who has
that kind of a closed minded idea of what's possible
in speaking to you, or someone that might have an
alternative way where you're saying, here's something that the world
of medicine tells you is incurable, and you're saying, no,

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I can do things to fix that. How do you
cross that bridge if somebody is that reluctant to even
open themselves to the possibility.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Well, that's just said I have to be able to
continue the conversation. She wasn't even willing to have the conversation.
So I don't do anything at that point. I'm not
going to bang my head against a wall. You know,
my job is to offer people an opportunity for a
different outcome related to their health. And since I know

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all the things that are wrapped up into creating a
health problem, if I address it at its source, then
the effect will change. All of medicine is focused on
the effect, So when they get everybody myopically appreciating their
condition from the end results and they don't even think

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about what's causing it because they're brainwashed to believe that
if my doctor knew that the cause of it, he
would have shared it with me. No, your doctor will
never share with you the cause of anything because that
undermines their ability to treat you. And since everything in
healthcare is about management and treatment. They're not interested in

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helping you get well. A patient cured is a patient lost.
They don't want to lose you as a patient. And
that's kind of along the lines that when you go
in and you say, I've got these vague symptoms and
I'm concerned about it getting worse, and they're like, we
can't find anything come back when it gets worse.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's a common That is a common thing that you hear.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
What kind of logic is that. That's ridiculous, that's retarded,
that's like, that's stupid.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, I mean you have to be able to look
deeper into what is underlying the problem exactly before it
becomes actually a problem exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
And that's just it. We were all born to be healthy,
that was a right that was given to us by
our creator.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
But the sensitivity required to be able to register something
that's not manifested as a symptom is really kind of
central to what you're doing in terms of being able
to address somebody who has a problem.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Right through the tools that I use in the office,
we can find a three percent loss in normal function.
Three percent loss You have to lose sixty percent in
order to qualify for medical care. And all the TV
commercials talk about with people dancing around and smiling and
singing and all the wonderful things about when they take

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this toxic chemical known to have armful side effects. That's
even mentioned in the commercial. It's a Jedi mind trick,
and people are being brainwashed into thinking that they only
get better health by taking these toxic chemicals that come
with side effects.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, one of the things you know, that I've experienced
working with you that I found very fascinating is that
when you go through the testing, because you use manual
muscle testing as your main.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Way of looking away with accessing as.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Nervous systems, So when when you have a problem, and
so a muscle will test week. But then after going
through the process the protocols that we have done and
the correction and start to make the correction, it's not
like it gets back to one hundred percent right away,
but it's noticeable that the muscle that was tested last

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time is a little bit stronger than it.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Was right and that's moving up that scale above the
forty percent to fifty percent to sixty percent to seventy
five percent to eighty percent. You know, when you get
up above ninety percent, one of two things happens. People

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are like, okay, good, I'm close enough to being done
because they don't understand change is constant. You're never done
as a spirit. You will never be done learning about
what it means to be a spirit. And that's just

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the thing that it's Again, it has to do with
how open is somebody, how forward thinking are they, how
much do they understand about this process that we live
called life, and are they investing in it? Are they
a passive observer or are they completely clueless? And those

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that are completely clueless will invest in our allopathic medical
system of signing up for multiple chemical toxic medicines and
they'll take them like clockwork every day because that's what
their pharmaceutical doctor has told them that they need to do,

(30:50):
without recognizing the fact that you're not fixing anything by
going on those toxic.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
But you're delaying the problems outcome.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
You are delaying it and setting yourself up for a
more severe intervention down the road to where now they
get to do surgery.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Which is very interesting because your approach is to reverse
the process of going downhill into the dark places that
you might with a health problem right, and then bring
you back into the light.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Bring you back to expressing the life force that was
given to you by the creator m and doing it
in a way that you're in charge of it and
you're using it in an effort to live your best
life while supporting others to live their best life.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Let me ask you about that, that you having the power,
you having the choice, how does that function? Because typically
if I go to the medical doctor, the medical doctor
has sort of the god complex that they have all
the answers and that they can then let me know
what you know, guide me on the journey right.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
And to a certain degree, that's correct. When a person
comes to me, they're coming to me from my expertise
in order for me to help them understand what's going
on in their body, what's causing what's going on in
their body, and what they have to do to eliminate
the cause so they can just go back to being
a normal, healthy person. And so there's a certain amount

(32:26):
of trust that has to be established, and there's a
certain amount of Okay, I'm going to get in your
taxi and you're going to drive me far enough down
towards my destination to where I can get out of
the taxi and finish the destination on my own. And
you know, it's it's just a question of let me

(32:47):
get you out of your crisis into a better neighborhood.
And then once you're in that better neighborhood, you decide
how far you want to go into that better neighborhood.
And you know, there are some there are pis of
mind that I see every single month like clockwork, and
that's the relationship that we have. And we talk about
their lives. We talk about what's going on. We talk

(33:09):
about the winds of their children, we talk about the
winds of their grandkids, We talk about their own personal wins.
I had a patient in my office this morning who
it's very difficult for her because she's maintained her health
and even though she's sixty six years old, she doesn't
have any of the aches and pains and any of
the health problems that all of her peers do. So

(33:31):
she went to a reunion for her high school and
all the people there were significantly more health problems than
she was. And she and her husband they dance all
night long. They do you know, dance contests. They go

(33:54):
to dances all the time, and they just love being
out there. They go for walks every day, they go
for hikes, they do all sorts of stuff. And so
to look at her and compare her to her peer group,
a lot of her peer group they don't even go
out anymore because their health won't allow them to even

(34:14):
leave the house, whereas she and her husband are always
going out and going for eight mile walks on trails.
They're dancing every weekend at different dance places and this
and that, and it's just like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
What kind of outcome? What path are you on?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
And where's your destination? Where is it taking you well?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
And I think that everybody comes in with their own
particular situation and their own heredity, their own whoever they are,
absolutely and now it's a matter of being the best
outcome for you, correct, Right, It's not like there's one
generic outcome that's going to be the same for everybody.
And everybody's gonna feel the same at sixty six or

(34:59):
ninety six as that person does. You're going to feel
the best of your own condition that you can feel.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Right, And there are people you told me the story
of your mom who she's howled ninety five and what's
her cognitive abilities.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's amazing to me that she has a better short
term memory I think than I do.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Right, Yeah, and she's ninety five and she's ninety five, okay,
And how is she physically physically?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
She's still in decline. You can feel that she's slowing down.
It's harder for her to walk. She needs a cane
or or sometimes she'll use a walker.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Right, So her mental emotional world is spot on, spot on,
and her physical world is in decline, is in decline,
and it's like, yeah, that's going to happen to all
of us, because the law of gravity is absolute and
we're all subject to it, and if we don't live
a balanced life, then we're going to develop different problems
and we're going to eventually decline. The best thing, though,

(36:00):
is the fact that she's still there mentally emotionally as
sharp as attack. Okay. And that's the way a person
is supposed to age. And my wife is reading a
book and starting to feed us in the way that
there's areas in the world known as blue zones, and
these are people that all live greater than one hundred

(36:22):
years and they're all still very physically active, and so
my wife is reading about all that, and she's trying
to feed us that way, and she's trying to feed
our dog that way. And we want to go visit
these different areas in the world and just see what
the community's like and get more of a sense of
that and either bring it back to our home or
even consider moving to the area. You know, it's just like,

(36:43):
you know, because I've told people at least for the
last I don't know, at least the last thirty years, Okay,
I'm going to live to be at least one hundred
and fifty. And people say to me, why would you
want to live that long? And I'm like, why wouldn't you?
If you're still active, if you're still productive, if you
still enjoy what you're doing, why wouldn't you could want

(37:05):
to extend that as long as possible. Why would you
give up on life when that's the one gift that
we've all been given. And so it's just how do
you set yourself up for success and how do you
set yourself up for failure? And relating this back to
what our initial conversation was related to liver health. Okay,
your liver is your main processing plant, and when your

(37:27):
liver is struggling, You're going to age faster than if
your liver's not symbol right, and so you want to
make sure you keep your liver clean. And it's a
byproduct of what you're putting in. It's the amount of
water you drink, the air that you breathe, the food
that you eat, your sleep, your exercise, your relationships, your

(37:48):
sense of happiness versus misery. And the more anger and
frustration that you have in your life in dealing with
how you've run your life, the more stress you're going
to put in your liver, and the more effects of
that are going to show up, whether it is through
our fritus or whether it is through needing stronger glasses
as you get older, whatever the case happens to.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Be well, this is a fantastic way for us. In
the second sequestion of our show, we need to take
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Speaker 2 (39:10):
You know, as we're talking about the liver and liver health,
and I really appreciate the perspective that you bring to this.
Isn't the main job of the liver to help break
down fats that you're ingesting?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
I guess that's part of it. I mean, yeah, it
helps to break down the fats. It sends signals to
the gallbladder, which you know, it produces bile which then
gets concentrated within the gall the gallbladder and then when
properly stimulated, the gallbladder excretes the bile that helps to
emulsify or break down the fats so that you can

(39:46):
then absorb them and send them back to the liver.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Now, but I understand that the fats that your body
stores aren't necessarily the fats that you're eating. They actually
is a way of part from some of the things
that really you you shouldn't have in your diet.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Right at the end of the day, when your body
is ingesting things that it shouldn't have, whether there's toxins,
whether there's chemicals, whatever the case happens to be, those
will ultimately the body has to do something with them.
So the body will have a tendency to try to
isolate it from the vital organs. And then what the

(40:25):
body will do in an effort to insulate the vital
organs from the toxin itself, then it'll cover the toxin
in a layer of fat and move it into your
external tissues as opposed to your internal tissues. And so
that's primarily one of the reasons for obesity.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Mm hmm, because you're storing the fat.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
You're storing the fat because.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
You're protecting yourself from the things that don't belong.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Well, at the end of the day, what you're doing
is you're making poor choices food wise because of your
self este em, and then the food doesn't have any
nutritional value. So the body tries to solve that equation
by storing it until you get the rest of the ingredients.
But because of what they're doing to our food, we
never get the rest of those ingredients, So the body's

(41:14):
always in storage mode instead of burning mode. If you're
in burning mode, then you don't store anything, and you're
a pretty lean functioning individual. If you're always in storing mode,
then you're going to develop obesity, whether it's internal obesity
or external obesity. And one of the ways that the
body deals with the lack of proper nutrition in you know,

(41:39):
parsing out and protecting the body from the toxins associated
with that food, is it's going to isolate it away
from the vital organs and it's going to surround it
in a layer of fat.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Now you said there's internal obesity and external obesity. I
mean the external one. You kind of know you see a.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Person, You see a person and they Internal obesity is
where you've created a fat layer around all of your
vital organs, and that serves two purposes. It isolates the
vital organ from the things that potentially would create damage
to that vital organ, but it also insulates the organ

(42:19):
and acts as a layer of protection.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
So how would you know that you had that problem.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Well, you could have a liver function test. You might
see your liver enzymes are slightly elevated. You could have
your cholesterol taken, and even though you're thin, you have
high cholesterol. You have high bad cholesterol. Bad cholesterol. The
LDLs are a measurement of the amount of damage that
you're creating in your body. So it's a good number
to know. But once you know it, then you need

(42:47):
to change what you're doing so you stop causing internal
damage and driving up your bad cholesterol.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
So what do you recommend for somebody that may be
having some kind of liver imbalance or have a cholesterol issue.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I would ask if they can answer this question for
themselves right now? Are you interested in taking more toxic
chemicals known to have horrible side effects in the way
of medication. You know, if you have high cholesterol and
they're going to put you on a statin, the chief
side effect of taking a statinus diabetes. So do you
want to sign up for diabetes to go on top

(43:22):
of your high cholesterol and just watch your body deteriorate
over time, or do you want to do something actually
to address the underlying reason for why your body is
producing a whole bunch of bad cholesterol. If you want
to fix the problem, you want to pick up the
phone and call me. If you're interested in just dealing
with the status quo and eventually suffering a older years

(43:46):
in your lifetime miserably because you can't do the things
that you want to do because you didn't take the
time to invest in correcting problems. Ultimately, it's your choice.
I want to help humanity, to help my neighbors. I
want to help them, my community members, to all be healthy.
And that's why I do this show every week. It's

(44:07):
called When Your Health Matters. And it's not up to
me when your health matters. It's up to you right
now who are listening. If your health matters. And if
your health matters, then I want to help you. If
your health doesn't matter, I'm sorry that it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Well, you know when you're talking about liver, and isn't
the liver and organ that it can actually heal itself.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Liver replaces itself every seven months, so yes, the liver
has an ability to repair itself, assuming that you stop
abusing it. Once you sirosa liver, it's probably not coming back.
How long does it take to siosa liver? I don't know,
roughly twenty years. So if you've abused it for twenty

(44:50):
years and now it's crosis, okay. You know one of
the newest things that doctors like to talk about, which
is just another way to say that they have no
idea what's going on. Still tell people that, oh, you've
got fatty liver's disease. We took a little skin and
your body seems to have fatty deposits in your liver,
and you want to blow your medical doctor's mind. Ask

(45:12):
them why, let me know if they give you an answer.
I'm pretty sure they're not going to give you an
answer because if they did, then they would put themselves
out of business.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
M So is there a way to get over that
fatty liver? Oh?

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Absolutely, start doing the right thing instead of doing the
wrong thing. So not changing your habits.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
But I mean other than changing your habits, don't you
have other programs like IF to accelerate that recovery.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Of course, we do our spring cleanse.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
What is that.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
It's our doctor supervised detox program designed to get rid
of all the toxins and your six main filters. Get
your three external filters your lungs, large intestine, in skin,
and then you got your three internal filters, which is
your liver, your kidneys, and your spleen. And so this
twenty three day program set your body up for success.

(46:10):
Then you purge all the toxins out of all the
six filters, and then you reintroduce food in a way
that allows you to just maintain the cleanliness of what's
going on inside your body.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
So when you do that and you come back out
of that program, have you resolved your fatty liver or
is that something.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
That's depends upon how chronic your fatty liver is. It's
going to definitely start moving in the right direction. And
if you continue to live that clean life that you
learned in the twenty three day process, then yeah, your
fatty liver will go away.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
So what about if you're a healthy person, would you
still get a benefit out of doing something like a
doctor supervised.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
You helped me appreciate how many toxins are we exposed
to through the air, right, you know, We're exposed to
eighty six thousand different chemicals on a weekly, weekly basis,
and if your liver can't process them in an efficient way,
then what happens They accumulate within the body. So even

(47:16):
if you are living a healthy life, you're still being
exposed to eighty six thousand different chemicals on a regular basis,
and so your filters are going to get interfered with
at least at some level. So doing the doctor supervised
detox program, the people who are already investing in themselves,
this would be a fantastic program or program for them

(47:38):
to do because they're just going to be investing at
a much deeper level than they're already aware of.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Mm hm. So I mean you're saying there's six filters
that you're actually cleansing, so you're doing more than just
your liver. Would your benefit I mean, would you be
able to just fix your liver or would you really
need to do this full system cleans that incorporates all
those filters.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
You could just focus on the liver, but it's not
going to help the rest of the body. And if
the other filters are clogged, then what's going to happen
to your liver over time, it's just going to clog
back up again. Why because the efficiency of the whole
filtration system is screwed up. You know you have in

(48:24):
your car, you have an oil filter or a gas
filter and an air filter, and when you go to
get your oil change, they should be looking at all
three of them to make sure that they're good. And
when one needs to be changed, you should make sure
that the other two are working in the way that
they're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
It makes it. I mean, what you're saying is almost
purely common sense. It's not like subps.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Common sense in our society isn't very common. Just look
at our health and then you'll see that the sense
that I'm sharing with everybody today isn't something this practiced. Now,
what's the definition of insanity?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Mark doing the same thing over and over and expecting
a different result.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Right, And so how much of our society is insane?
Every time they take their medication, every single day that
they take their medication. I'd say, anybody that's on medication,
ask the doctor this one very very important question. I
understand you want me to be taking this medication. I'm
even willing to do it, but I need you to

(49:32):
answer this one question prior to me starting, how does
this medication fix my problem? Not manage my problem, but
fix my problem. So if I go on this medication,
it's going to fix my cholesterol problem and then I
won't need the medication, Or it's going to fix my
blood pressure problem and then I won't need the medication,

(49:55):
Or it's going to fix my diabetes and then I
won't need the medication. It's not the way that the
allopathic healthcare system is set up.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Now.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Once you go on a medication, they expect you to
be honest for the rest of your life. And then
that begs the question, how's it actually helping me? And
if it comes with side effects, then you know right
up front that it's not helping you long term.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah. Man, the side effects are sometimes worse than the
condition that you're treating in the first place, right, I mean,
death is a side effect of how many drugs that
you'll see advertising.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Begs the question are they really helping you or are
they just kicking the can down the road and setting
you up for bigger interventions that cost more money somewhere
down the road.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Mm hmmm, Well, these are I mean everything that we're
talking about today. Everything we talk every week on the
show is really about gaining people a different perspective on
what they could potentially do for their health by taking
a different approach, by opening their mind to the possibility
that perhaps there's a different way to approach health. And obviously,

(50:57):
I think health is a very personal thing for each
of us. We're all different and we're all unique, so
we all have to have our own particular approach to
solving our health problems.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Hopefully, And that makes a very very good point because
what's the treatment for blood pressure mark?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Well, taking blood pressure medegains right.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Is it unique to each individual or does everybody get
the same formula?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Well, they're probably half a dozen or something formulas that
they might give you a different drug, but that's it,
and everybody gets one of those. Right.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Same thing for cholesterol, same thing for diabetes, same thing
for autoimmune disease, same thing for thyroid dysfunction, same thing
for any health problem. Is that everybody gets the same solution,
And that kind of goes against the fact that we're
all different, we're all individuals, we all have our own experiences,
we all have our own way of looking at the world.

(51:53):
We all dress differently, we all eat different foods, we
all live subtly different and it's like, Okay, when you
come to my office, you get tailored care specific to you.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
So if somebody's out there listening to our show and
wants to get that tailored care specifically for them, what
are the best ways to go about getting in touch
with you?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
The simplest way would be to call my cell phone
directly at airy code eight four five five six one
two two two five again eight four five five six
one two two two five. Uh. I would appreciate it
if you don't text that phone, because until I've had
a conversation with you, I don't know who you are.
And if you just simply text me and want to

(52:33):
start a conversation, it's not going to go anywhere. So
call me first, and then once we establish who you
are and I put you in my phone, then when
you text me, I'll know who I'm communicating with. But
I don't like to text what might take me a
couple of days to get back to you. If you
want to do that same kind of technique, you can
email me at doc rickdc Riick at spineboy dot com.

(52:57):
Doc Rick at spineboy dot com. You can go to
my main website, which is fineboy dot com. It's a
wealth of information that educates you on how to help
yourself and when you need the help. After we've had
a conversation of soorts, I'm going to invite you into
the office so that we can figure out what we
need to do in order to help you. So call me,
text me, email me, come into the office and let's

(53:20):
just help you get back into the game of life
and restore your health. And I would appreciate the opportunity.
So Mark, I want to thank you for leading this
show and giving us good conversation and hopefully helping our
listeners and just appreciate you well.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Thank you, Doc Rick, and I look forward to getting
back together with you next week and we can do.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
This again absolutely, so please tune back in next week,
same health time, same health station. This is doctor Richard
on tune from Advanced Alternative Medicine Center saying I look
forward to supporting you when you're health manager.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
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seen worse than the doctor.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Just gave me a pill.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
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stop on till you're nearly deader almost better keep out
of the reach of children. I think that there might
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limits of facts. Just come back and I'll give you
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on top of that, on top of that, on top
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(54:24):
me his bill. I put another pillar head out of
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Speaker 2 (54:44):
I'd rather give you a pill.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
The thing is there some side effects?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Baser probably will