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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, you're definitely ill. Sands to the nurse. I've
seen worse than the doctor.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Just gave me a pill.
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Take one of those three times today.
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You don't never stop on till you're really.
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Dead er all with better keep out of the region children.
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The thing is that some side effects, you mean, the
probably will well.
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Limits of fact, you can't.
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I'll give you another film.
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On top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top.
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Of that, and many showed me his bill.
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I've popped another pill.
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Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years to support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for
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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every
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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You are listening to the Alternative Healthcare Network.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health advocate, Mark saban Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Doc Rick, can you help somebody who has tried every
conceivable medical intervention or solution and nothing is helped.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Absolutely. Anyone who comes to me to address their health
concerns will get an education on the reason why they
have their health issue, which is different from the medical
perspective who treats what the conclusion of the person instead
of addressing the reason for why the situation developed. I
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am the why guy, not the what guy. With toxic
chemicals known to have harmful side effects, let's address the
cause of your condition once and for all. So that
you're no longer at the end of your rote with
your situation because every medical solution didn't do a darned
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thing for you, and nothing seems to be helping.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So what do you tell somebody that has tried all
the different medical solutions.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Come speak with me and let's see if we can
answer the unanswered questions of why you are continuing to suffer,
what is causing you to suffer, and then what do
we need to do to address that cause? And I
promise you that you'll be happy that you took the time.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, I remember a couple of weeks ago you
were talking about the fact that you were on a
conversation with a woman who called you about her health,
concerned that she wasn't able to get addressed and was
really closed minded to the possibility that maybe what you
had might help. I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean that
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you have to be convinced that at a go see
doc work, it's going to solve my problems. But at
least you need an open mind that there may be
something that you hadn't tried yet that could help you.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Right, And at the end of the day, if you
don't have an open mind please don't pick up the phone.
But if you're sitting at home and suffering and you're
frustrated with the lack of results from everything that you're trying,
if you don't try something new, then you won't get
a different outcome. But if you do try something new,
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you will get a different outcome, and maybe that different
outcome is going to be your savior in terms of
how you feel and how you function and ultimately what
your health is doing.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That'd be true if somebody has a serious condition and
it's pretty far down the road with it.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I don't know of anything more severe or serious than
stage four advanced stage four pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's pretty much at the end of the line there.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
And the gentleman that was referred to me by his
endocrinologist oncologists basically referred him to me, probably to get
him out of his office so that the patient wouldn't
die on his watch. When he went back to visit
his oncologist three months later, having put on twenty six
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twenty eight pounds and was no longer confined to a
wheelchair and walking on his own without even the use
of a cane, his oncologist did a happy dance because
in his world, people don't live that long, So to
see somebody live that long really opened his eyes to
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what's possible. And now it just becomes a question of
what is it going to take on his end to
convince his patients to actually come see me.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But I mean, it's a pretty brilliant thing that he
was open enough to send his patient to you and
find out for himself and actually to do a happy
dance when he found out that he survived that much longer.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And that was a byproduct of two things.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The patient's son.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Probably the best non healthcare researcher that I've ever met.
He knew more about his dad's condition then I'm going
to guess that anybody did until he came to see me.
And then I gave him new understandings that added to
what he already understood. And anytime the medical professionals wanted
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to say something, he already had an understanding of what
they were saying and why they were saying it. Nine
times out of ten, when the doctor comes in to
talk to you about their condition, they're going to talk
a little bit above your understanding, and that's in an
effort to move you down the hallway to doing whatever
it is that they want you to do.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I had a patient.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I had a patient two weeks ago call me from
the hospital. They had been admitted to the hospital while
they were in the emergency room and they were looking
for a bed that they were going to admit them.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Into the hospital.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And so when they finally admitted him to the hospital,
I said, well, call me when you finally get in.
So they called me and they were asking me questions
about how they should navigate the minefield that they were
now in the middle of. And as they were talking
to me on the phone, the doctor came in. So
my patient's sister handed the doctor the phone and now
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he's on the phone with me. He knows that this
is my name is doctor huntun. He has no idea
what kind of doctor I am. But he didn't ask
what kind of doctor I was. He just wanted to know,
you know, this is what's going on with Frank. These
are the tests that we need to order. We're not
going to have test results for about three days. He
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wants to go home. We just assume keep him here.
Is there anything that you could say to him that
will help him to stay? And I said, well, you
need to understand Frank is a very stubborn person. If
he makes up his mind that he wants to do something,
there's nothing that you're going to do. This's going to
change his mind. So that's the first thing that you
need to understand. If you can't articulate to him in
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a way that he's going to understand exactly why you're
telling him what you're telling him, and it's if it
doesn't make sense to him, you might as well go
bang your head against the wall. But if you can
break it down to a five or six year old
mentality where you're explaining to him why you need him
to stay while you're waiting for results instead of allowing
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him to go home and wait for results in the
comfort of his own home in his own bed.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Good luck with that.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
And so at the end of the day, he stayed.
He was there for five days, and when he got discharged,
he came to see me and we took care of
what we needed to take care of that they didn't
take care of at the hospital because they didn't even
understand what was going on with him. Even after the
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five days, Even after the five days and the test results,
they still didn't do anything to help him. They just
ran expensive tests and they got paid a handy amount
for the expensive tests, but they didn't really do anything
for him.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So what How often is it that people like that
come to see you when all hope is run out elsewhere?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Well, it depends upon them not giving up hope. I've
had lots of patients over the years who the doctors
discharged them saying there's nothing more that we can do
for you, and the patient's like, well, there's I want
to live. There's got to be something that can be done.
So I'm going to start looking. And they start, you know,
shaking the trees and kicking indoors, and they eventually come
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across my name, and you know, I'm somebody that you
can talk to. I'm somebody that's going to talk with you.
I'm not going to talk at you. I'm certainly going
to talk down to you. And i just want to
simplify things for people because I've spent the last thirty
seven years of my life looking for the whys, and
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so I'm pretty wise in terms of understanding the why,
so that I can help you understand why you have
what you have. And so I want to have that conversation.
I want to explain to you in simplified terms, what
your condition is, what it means, what that means for
your long term health, and what we can do in
order to remedy the why of what it is that
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you have, and then what you have tends to go away.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So once you get past that why and you understand
what's going on with the person, can you apply I
know you're very big advocate of proactive health care. Can
you apply those proactive approaches to somebody who has perhaps
got and already failing health.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I apply proactive health solutions to people who have been
told that there's nothing that can be done to help
their condition. And what we do is we change the
outcome of that, so.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You actually affect the trajectory of their illness and what
was anticipated to be something different, just like this pation
you talked about with pancreatic cancer, right.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And so the thing of it is, it's always my
intention to change the trajectory of the disease to help
restore their normal health. And it begins with an understanding
of why they have what they have, and then addressing
that why, which is the cause of the condition. And
we see that the condition goes away.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So does the only thing that you treat for people
if they have some kind of long term health condition.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I treat all disease because all disease is long term
if not properly addressed. So regardless of when a person
comes to me where we're interested in addressing the cause
and resolving their condition once and for all. And so
it just becomes a question of I can take a
long term disease and get rid of it, or I
can take a short term disease that's going to become
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long term and it never ends up becoming long term.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So how do you help somebody? Since you can't use medications,
how are you able to help somebody? I mean, what
do you actually use this going to help somebody improve
their health?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, it's simple, Mark.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
You need to understand that health is not based on
having or not having medication. Health is the absence of
disease and the lack of a need for medication. And
so how do I help somebody without using medication. I
don't focus on their disease. I don't focus on their medication.
I focus on well, why what is the story of
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the name that they've been given?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
That quote?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
The medication is supposed to help pacify for a period
of time as long as the medication is effective, and
for blood pressure the medication is effective for roughly twenty
four hours. Most medications are effective for only twenty four hours,
so that you're going to have to take a pill.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Every day and how long are you going to.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Have to take that for typically for the rest of
your life? And that begs the question, so, how is
the medication truly fixing my problem? And the answer is
it's not, but it is helping to create new problems.
And that's an absolute because those are the side effects
of the medication. And so how do I help somebody?
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I focus on treating the person and what's out of
balance for them and restoring health so that what was
out of balance now goes back into balance and then
the condition magically disappears just the opposite of the way
that it appeared.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So, once you have helped somebody back to balance in
that way, what do you need to do to help
somebody maintain their optimal health?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Well by being proactive and having addressed their health and
balance and removing them from existence. Then over the course
of that they start to learn how to take responsibility
for their health. They start to change their habits and behaviors.
They develop a new lifestyle and a lifestyle that promotes
health and wellness as opposed to a lifestyle there promotes
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sickness and disease.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You know, one of the big frustrations I think that
goes on with going to the medical profession is that
if you have vague feelings that maybe not be at
the level of really a symptom or a condition, but
you notice that you know, this doesn't feel right, and
it's even maybe hard to articulate what's going on. Is
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there a way around that kind of frustration? If I
see come.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
To see you, well, when you come to me, we are.
All we're doing in the office is we're evaluating function
based upon what you're indicating that isn't functioning properly. So,
as a functional healthcare practitioner, I use function to determine
what's working and what's not working, and then based upon
what's not working, we.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Expose them to.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
A whole bunch of different potential causes to find out
which one resonates with their particular problem, and then good,
now we understand what the cause is, and then we
come up with what are the tools and techniques that
we need to do in order to eliminate the cause
and restore balance and return the person back to health.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So do you ever telepatient has come to you? Well,
just come back when it gets worse and we'll deal
with it.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Then that's funny. I know that goes on, but that's
just retarded.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
If you're not willing to help the person, then just
stop practicing healthcare.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
If you don't understand the mechanism of cause in the
field that you're supposed to be an expert of, then
just stop practicing because that's just ridiculous. Come back when
it gets worse. No, what is the state of my
condition and you say it's not bad enough for medical intervention,
well good, then inform me what I should do so
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that it doesn't get worse. I understand that threatens your
future wellness as a healthcare provider. But the hippocratic goal
says to first do no harm. Well, I'm going to
ask you to go one step further. I'm going to
ask you to actually offer me advice and information that
I can apply to much my situation to make my
situation go away. And that's the way health care should be,
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and in my office, that's exactly how it is.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Well well, I mean in that regard, I mean, how
long does it take between the time you start to
notice a vague symptom and when you've actually got something
that registers as a full blown disease.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Well, you have to lose sixty percent of normal functioning
in order to have a symptom, just to have a symptom,
just to have a.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Symptom, not even a disease at that point.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Well, you have a disease at that point, you do.
You had a disease even before you had a symptom.
And that's the misunderstanding and the disconnect that we have
in the health care industry is diase. When you lose
one percent of normal functioning, you're not healthy. You don't
necessarily see yourself as not being healthy. You're functioning at
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ninety nine percent. And for a lot of people, ninety
nine percent is acceptable. For a lot of people, seventy
five percent is acceptable. Hell, for a majority of the
people in our country, forty percent is considered acceptable because
they will go to their doctor when they have full
blown symptoms, which means their body's functioning at forty percent
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of its ability, and they're willing to go listen to
the doctor say, well, you're lacking this toxic chemical that's
preventing your body from doing what it's supposed to do.
So let's outsource what your body should be doing by
giving you this toxic chemical, and it's going to lift
you out of the forty percent at least in terms
of how you're feeling. But we're going to have to
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manage you because we know that you're functioning it only
forty percent or less, and we want to make sure
that it's not getting worse. So you're going to have
to come back in regularly to make sure that the
medication isn't killing you and to make sure that your
problem isn't getting any worse. Even though it's going to
get worse based upon how we're treating it, we're actually
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counting on it getting worse because that's when we get
to bring in the other half of our healthcare industry,
and that's where we get to do surgical intervention.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So in order to be able to get through this
whole process, what you really want to be able to
do is address the situation before it becomes a full
loan disease, and I mean this is this is why
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Speaker 5 (18:37):
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Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know dot. One of the questions that I think
plagues me about this whole issue of coming down with
diseases is why can't your immune system fight off the
encroaching disease before it ever gets into your system.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Well, for most people in our society, unfortunately, the immune
system is too weak to recognize the problem, and that
is the main reason why the person gets sick. Your
immune system is supposed to identify something wallet off and
get rid of it before it replicates and becomes overwhelming
to the system. The average person in our country isn't
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anywhere close to being able to do that. So what
ends up happening is things get into the body, they
set up shop, they create a disease process, and then
that disease process expands and eventually leads to full blown disease,
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and the doctors their hands are tied because of the
health insurance industry, who won't pick up the cost of
any care involved until the person is in full blown disease.
So doctors don't look to help anybody because they can't
get paid until the person's in full blown disease.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So there's no.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Impetus, there's no desire, there's no focus on keeping people
well because once the person's out of symptom function where
they're above forty percent of normal, once they're at forty
one percent of normal, functioning. Insurance won't pay for any intervention,
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so doctor's hands are tied. If they want to get paid,
they have to do what the insurance company will pay for.
And so the whole healthcare industry has been turned ass
over tea kettle to where nobody's actually focused on health.
They're just managing disease and sickness.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, it's kind of like if you go to the doctor,
they're spending most of their time staring at their screen
and hardly looking at you, the patient in the same
room right now. I mean, if you get sick a lot,
are there ways to strengthen your immune system to start
reversing that process?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Absolutely, you need to feed it during and after eliminating
cause for the weak immune system. I take an immune
building actually quite a number of immune and building supplements
every single day, and that's what keeps my immune system
in tip top shape, so that when people bring me
their sickness and they cough, breathe, sneeze and mucus on me,
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I don't get what they have. I'm never concerned about
getting what they have because I know my immune systems
at its highest level that I can keep it at
because I just do it all day, every day.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
M h. Now, why is it that? And I think
you said this before, but why is it that medications
won't help you fight off a disease?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
The medication stress the bodies and does nothing to correct
the reason for the problem to begin with. Therefore, medications
don't They're not designed to fight off disease, They're designed
to reduce the symptom.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
So would it be fair to say that you're anti medicine.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
No, I'm not anti medicine. I'm anti stupidity. If you're
going to solve a problem, solve the problem. Don't temporarily
solve the problem and then make people depend upon your
temporary solution. If you're not gonna fix it, don't get involved.
If you're gonna fix it, good, fix it, be done
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with it, and allow the person to go on with
their life.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So, if I'm under a doctor's care and using medication,
you don't prescribe medications. But if I'm under a doctor's
care and I'm using medications, can I still come and
see you and get help?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Absolutely, Because what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna find
out the reason why you need the medication. I'm going
to address that reason, you're no longer gonna need the
medication and your health is going to be restored.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, what I don't need the medication? What do I
do then? I mean, my doctors prescribe the medication. Do
I just stop?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Well, you shouldn't just stop without proper supervision. You need
to go have a conversation with a guy that prescribed
the medication or the gal to show them that you've
improved your health and that you no longer need it.
Because when you take it, you don't feel good, and
when you don't take it, you feel better. Therefore, you
think you should stop. But I want to do it
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under proper supervision. And if your doctor won't allow you
to come off your medication because they're too insecure to
make a living without you, you know, basically paying into
their retirement account by buying their medication, go talk to
the pharmacist and tell ask the pharmacist what it takes
to reduce the use of the medication. Can you just
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stop it? Can you slowly reduce the amount over time
to where then you no longer need it? Because you're
either going to do it in a controlled, supported way,
or you're going to do it flying by the seat
of your pants.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But either way, you're going.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
To do it now before you get to the point
where you're serious in trouble. How do you know if
your health is going in the wrong direction?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Check in with functional tests, which can cost a lot,
or come to me and we'll find your functional illnesses
based upon my evaluation. And the cost of that is
minimal compared to what there are simple tests that medical
doctors perform which can add up to as much as
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fifteen hundred dollars. I can probably get you well for
under fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Dollars, not just find out, but get you well.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Get you well.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
For the same cost of that one test. That's going
to let them, with their lack of understanding, understand what's
going on with you. They order the test because they
don't have the brain capacity to actually tell you what
your problem is, So they need some validation that the
insurance company is going to pay for, and that's going
to increase the amount of money in their coffers so
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that they can continue to order the expensive equipment and
maintain the hotel that is now the hospital.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, you you don't have a lot of expensive equipment
in your practice, do you?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I really don't have any expensive equipment in my practice
other than the things that I use to evaluate people,
which has been paid for so one time payment and
it's a couple maybe even a few hundred dollars, and
once that's paid for, it just that's the only tools
that I need mm hm.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So I mean going to you is more like what
it used to be going to the country doctor back
maybe one hundred years ago, when you would see that
you're the guy that knew you, that maybe helped you
know your mother give birth to you, and we'll see
you all the way through your your adulthood.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
All right, hopefully, And I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And there was a movie a number of years back
with Michael J. Fox called Doc Hollywood, and you know,
he was an arrogant young doctor who was leaving medical
school to go out to the West Coast where he
was going to step into his big, beautiful practice and
make all sorts of money and deal with all sorts
of famous people. And over the course of doing that,
he had a car accident where he took out the
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white picket fence of the town judge. So the judge
basically find him. He had to stay and help out
at the health center because the doctor, the old time doc,
he was either sick or out of town.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't remember what the story was, but.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
So Doc Hollywood ended up doing what he was doing,
and he was all into the gadgets and gizmos and
things being expensive, and this one particular kid had a problem.
And the nurse who was the nurse of the town doc,
was trying to tell the Doc Hollywood guy that what
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you're recommending for this for our patient here, I don't
think it's the right solution. And he's just like, you know,
your guys are stuck back in old school days and
you don't have the technology or the understanding, and you
just don't understand what's going on. And so she called
the town doc, and the town doc said we'll do this,
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that and the other thing, and the kid will be fine.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And Michael J.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Fox's character got all enraged over the fact that that
just is insane and that, you know, he shouldn't be
practicing anymore of this, that and the other thing.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
And so the nurse called the doctor back.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
So now the doctor gets off of his duff and
he comes into the office, cracks open a can of coke,
has a kid drink the can of coke, and the
kid feels better immediately, and then he goes over and
he slaps Michael J. Fox in the face and says,
don't ever tell me how to fix my patient with
any of the crap that you're bringing here. And for me,
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it was very eye opening in the sense that we've
moved so far away from what doctors have known for centuries,
and we've become so enamored and influenced by something that's
been around for at this particular juncture, it's only been
around for about one hundred years, right, Well, what were
people doing before we had this one hundred years of
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toxic chemicals known to have harmful side effects. We were
doing naturalopathy. We were doing homeopathy, we were doing chiropractic,
we were doing you know, Native American healing. We were
doing whatever we had to do, and all of it
was natural because there wasn't a thing promoted by Rockefellers
and Carnegiese that made them a crapload of money using
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petroleum products and basically moving our health in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It didn't move our health in the right direction, that's
for sure. Now. One of the things that is kind
of at the forefront of disease states. One of the
early signs and probably the universal sign is inflammation causes inflammation.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
The bodies, letting you know that there are nutritional efficiencies
by becoming in flame. Lack of necessary nutrition to maintain
normal and healthy function results in inflammation. And that's the
first indication that a person is heading on the path
to sickness and disease. And what was the reason why
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they have inflammation because they lack the proper nutrition. Lack
of normal nutrition puts you on the slippery slope that
ultimately ends up in disease.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
But I thought the inflammation of that to your body
fights off like having a fever. It means your body's
in immune system is fighting off what's wrong.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Right, and when you have a fever in your body
has to boil off the infection instead of preventing the
infection from happening.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
To begin with.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
If your immune system gets activated, it's because your border
wall is permeable. If you have enough vitamin C and
enough calcium, then pathogens don't get into the body activating
the immune system. So if you have enough ingredients to
help maintain the integrity so that infection doesn't actually get
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into the body, then you don't need all the anti
inflammatories and the other medications. But inflammation is the first
indication that you're suffering from nutritional deficiency.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So is there a problem at that point with taking
anti inflammatories? Uh?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
No, that'll end the crisis of inflammation, but it's not
fixing the deficiency.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Uh huh. So what happens if you don't do something
about the cause of your inflammation? What happens next?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
It becomes a chronic condition and then you're managing it
for the rest of your life, which makes a lot
of money for the healthcare industry, but it doesn't allow
you to enjoy your life the way that God intended
for you.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So if you want to detour off that path and
get back on the road towards health, how long does
that take?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Everybody's a little different. Some people are stubborn, they're not
willing to look in a different direction, and they're you know,
dare I say brainwash to think that medicine is the
best solution. And the simple thing that I want everybody
to consider is is if you take toxic chemicals and
you put them in a stream, they call that what right?
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If you take those same toxic chemicals and filter them
through your liver and your kidneys. What do they call
that modern medicine? What's the difference the way that it's
being applied. If it's outside the body, it's harmful. If
it's inside the body seems to be acceptable, and that's
just retarded.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So how do you know you're ever going to get
healthy if you go down on the alternative healthcare route?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I can't speak for all of them, but in my office,
we actually monitor your progress. We see the change, We
see the health returning, We see the muscle response becoming stronger.
May not be at one hundred percent, but if it's
was it fifty percent and now it's at seventy five percent,
there's still a weakness there.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
We're not done.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
We want to keep supporting it, but we want to
support it until you get all the way to the
top of the mountain, and then at that point we
make adjustments into what we're doing in order to maintain
you being there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now, can you help a person who is already immuno compromised?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Love helping people who are immunal compromised? What do you
think The first thing I'm going.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
To do is.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
To strengthen their immunes.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
I'm going to feed their immune system exactly, their immunal compromise. Well,
what do we have to do to restore balance to
their immune system? We got to feed it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So is there a to using alternative medicine? I mean
with drugs, there's always side effects, that's a downside to it.
Is there a downside to using alternative medicine?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Lack of faith, lack of understanding. If you go to
a practitioner that knows what he's doing, and he or
she has a system that they use that has its
own checks and balances to see the progress that's going
on within the individual that you're helping, then you don't
have bad responses. There's a thing that's involved in homeopathy.
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It's called a Herkimer response, and it's a negative response
to the proper solution. And all that means is is
this the right solution? It's just too concentrated, deluded a
couple thousand times or ten thousand times, or even one
hundred thousand times and apply it in a much smaller
dilution and you'll get the better response. But Herkimer responses
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is too much, too fast mm hmm. Even though it's
the right solution, even.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Though it's the right solution. So they're too much of
a good thing could be a problem.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Too much of a good thing when the body doesn't
have the pathways in which to process that good thing
is just going to lead to other problems.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So how do you go about if you want to
find an alternative healthcare Obviously we can find you because
we're going to tell you how to find you on
the show. But what if you're not, say, in the
area that you service, how would you find the right practitioners.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Well, you've got to start doing a Google search, and
you've got to look for alternative healthcare practitioners. And you know, however,
the non specific search is in Google, it may give
you people all over the country. If it's in a
particular area, then it may only give you the people
associated with that specific area. If you're looking in your
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town and there isn't one, then you're going to get
no results. So let's just a question of you having
to do your homework and do your research. Do your
homework in terms of what kind of practitioner you looking for,
and then do your research to find that kind of practitioner.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Mm hmm, Well, this is a this is a fabulous
conversation to be having with you. Doc. We need to
take the short commercial break to hear from our general sponsor,
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Speaker 5 (36:20):
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Speaker 1 (37:02):
So Doc, can you describe for us what the stages
are going from being healthy to actually becoming ill.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well, there's five stages.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
First one is inflammation and that's where the body is
letting you know that it's lacking the ingredients that it needs,
and it's having a temper tension to let you know
that it's not getting its needs met. That's the inflammation.
The second phase is called deposition, and that's where you
start to deposit within the cell itself the ingredients that
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you do have that isn't sufficient in order to produce
the normal response. So if you need ten parts of
something in order to function properly, and your diet is
only supplying you with seven and you're missing the vital three,
you're going to get deposits of those sevens. And what
that ends up doing is it ends up clogging the cell.
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So the cell moves all those things out to the side,
which is then forced into the cell wall. And that's
the third phase a body breakdown, which is called impregnation.
And then once you deposit those things into the cell wall,
the integrity of the cell is going to be compromised,
and that leads to the fourth phase of the body
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breaking down, which is the first physical indication that you
have a problem, and that's called degeneration. That's the first
physical sign that you notice that things aren't aging the
way that they're supposed to. And then finally the process
continues to degenerate and that leads to the cell mutating
or changing the way that it functions all together, and
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that's called d differentiation, and that typically results in things
like cancer or an autoimmune disease. So those are the
five stages of breakdown from going from health all the
way to illness, and it all starts with nutritional deficiencies.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Now is it the same thing when I catch a cold,
which is a short term illness versus the long term
conditions like diabetes and heart disease.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Well, on one level, the answer is yes. You've gone
from being normal to being out of balance and out
of normal certainly having a cold versus a diabetes or
a heart disease. The whole mechanism is different ones caused
by a pathogen. The other ones are the effects of
nutritional deficiencies. But either way, you're having an abnormal situation
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that you shouldn't be having.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Now, what is it that's actually causing your body to
break down? I mean, is it simply because you're getting
all these toxins in and pollution in and are there
a whole series of different things that cause that breakdown?
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Well, yeah, I mean The primary reason is you have
crappy ingredients. You're trying to build a building with sand
instead of building a building with cement. What's the integrity
of that building and what's the difference in the integrity.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well, those sand castles by the shore get washed away
by the.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Waves, they do pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
But you put a few cinder blocks in there as
a defense mechanism from the sea that keeps coming in
and going out. Then you can build a sand castle
behind it and it'll stand very well when the sand dehydrates,
and then it almost sets up like a brick.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
And so at the end of the day, we need
to understand if you don't have the proper nutrition, your
body's going to break down. And if you compound that
with stress, the stress is going to make you go
through resources faster than if you're not stressed. So, if
you're stressing your body out and going through resources that
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you don't continue to replenish with high quality ingredients, then
that's the base for disease right there.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
And is that going to be the kind of thing
you can do for yourself to avoid catching some kind
of contagious disease.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Well, that's what I do I maintain a strong and
healthy body with a strong and healthy immune defense system,
and then I don't have to worry about getting sick
or catching quote something contagious.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Now, in your practice, you know, you talked a lot
about doing things where you're helping people get better and
improve their health. But what about somebody that came to
you that had a terminal disease? Can you help somebody
in that situation where they've already been sort of given
their you know, eviction notice off this planet.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Absolutely going to help them for as long as they
desire health and are willing to do the work, and
the terminal diagnosis will always win. Everyone dies at some point,
mark and at least for now. And you know, we
we've talked over the last several months about the patient
that was referred to me by as oncologists with advanced
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stage four pancreatic cancer, and the oncologist, in my belief,
I think that he referred him to me because he
didn't want him dying in his own office and under
his own watch, so he wanted to give it to
somebody else to deal with that. And if he didn't
know anybody else in the medical profession to refer them
to because they all have the same mentality. Well, let
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me refirm to somebody outside of the medical professional, let's
see what they can do. And we did a lot
for him and he lived very very well and very
very successful until medicine actually killed him by doing a
surgical procedure that he never recovered from.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Uh huh. So is there a survival point to medicine
and just trying to get you to stay alive? I
mean that sounds so different than what you're talking about,
which is to try to bring somebody back into health
and to improve their well.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Medicine's perspective is is using whatever measures are necessary to
keep the person alive for his long long as possible,
and sometimes it will violate the hippocratic oath to first
do no harm. And that's ultimately what happens in a
lot of cancer treatments. You know, when they're using chemotherapy,
they've disavowed us of the toxic nature of it, and
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that violates to hippocratic oath. But since the whole industry
is doing it and they get some level of results
where they think that they have some level of success,
the mentality is is that we give you these toxic chemicals,
and your body's spirit is stronger than cancer's ability to
withstand the toxic chemicals, then you'll live. And if your
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spirit isn't strong enough to withstand the toxic chemicals, then
you'll succumb to the diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
And so.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I don't think putting toxic chemicals into a person's body
in an effort to promote more health is the smartest
way to go about helping them.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
But there are cases where people have remissions from doing chemo,
and so there are.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
My question is is what they were treating them for?
And this may be a little bit controversial, but what
the hell, I'll say it. Maybe what they were giving
them chemo for wasn't actually cancer, so they could say
that they were in remission. But if they never had
cancer to begin with, and then they say that they're
in remission, if that's what the story is, that's what
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the story is.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Well, that seems like that's that would be pretty suspect.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
If that was actually it would be suspect. But who's
going to question the doctor.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Nobody questions the doctor. I'll give you a completely different example.
I had a gentleman that was referred to my office
by his mom because unfortunately, he went out with one
of his friends and he was talked into smoking some marijuana.
The marijuana had something in it and it caused him
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to have a seizure, so they admitted him into the hospital.
They admitted him under the diagnosis of drug addict. He
took one puff one toke if he will, of marijuana
that was lace with something that caused him to go
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into a seizure, and the diagnosis when he was admitted
to the hospital was that he's a drug addict. So
what kind of misdirection are we already talking about?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Now?
Speaker 5 (45:40):
The story gets better in the course he gets admitted
to ICU. In the course of staying in ICU, guess
what they administered to him in an effort to quote
help him feel better?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Drugs morphine.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
Let's talk about what drugs were administered to him. Okay,
what's the worst drug in the world right now that
they're trying desperately to keep from coming into our country.
That was given to him. If that wasn't enough, they
also gave him oxy codo because he had an adverse
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response to smoking pot for the first time in his life,
so they compounded They called him an addict, and they
compounded the diagnosis of being an addicts by giving him
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two of the most toxic, highly addictive drugs possible to
treat the diagnosis of him being an addict after having
smoked pot one time. What do you make of that scenario, Mark.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I mean, that's just kind of what make me crazy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
And that's exactly why his parents came with him and
sat in my office and we spent two and a
half hours together helping them to understand what's going on
with him, why it's going on with him, and why
the circumstances of what had happened to him would have happened.
And we're in the process of fixing everything that's out
of balance with him so that he can just simply
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go back to being a normal twenty something year old.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Wow. I mean it seems like, you know, one of
the things that with people who are ill. I mean,
it's obviously different than the example you just gave, but
people who are ill and maybe given a terminal sentence,
but it seems like the death I don't know which
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is scarier, death or dying. I mean, can you help
somebody who was afraid of dying? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:58):
Help them focus on living while they and supporting the
understanding of what death means from a soul's perspective versus
the physical perspective. That's why I always encourage people to
appreciate what they have, as it can change quite quickly
at any moment, and so appreciate where you are with
what you have. Appreciate family, Appreciate friends, Appreciate whatever lifestyle
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that you have. Focus on what you have, don't focus
on what you don't have, because all of life is
ultimately terminal, and you could focus on the fact that
that's coming, or you could focus on living. So and
the final scene of Shawshank Redemption and throughout the course
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of Shawshank Redemption, Morgan Freeman's character was quoted as saying,
you either get busy living or get busy dying. And
he decided that he wasn't going to die in prison,
so he was able to get out and go find
his friend on some beach on the southern part of
Mexico and whatever. And it's just, you know, it's just it.
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You know, how do you choose to look at life?
Is the glass half full or is it half empty?
And are you already halfway there? Are you only halfway there.
It just depends upon your perspective. And you know, God
gives you free will to define your life. The way
that you define your life and based upon how you
look at the world and what your perspective is, whether
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it's positive or negative, is.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Going to be. You know, you're going to.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
Demonstrate to the world how you think and how you
feel based upon how you present yourself to the world.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, I'm do you know, is there a reason why
some people lived to be one hundred you were talking
about the the blue zones, and some other people might
die in their sixties or even thirties.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
Well, it just depends upon the lifestyle that they live.
My perspective is the quote contractual agreement that you made
with the creator in terms of what kind of life
you want to have and what you want to experience.
And you know, there are people who live life hard
and there are people who live life easy. And when
you find something that works, if you keep doing it,
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it'll continue to work. If you don't know what works
and what doesn't work, and you're just flying by the
seat of your pants and you know outcomes are going
to occur. But it all comes back to intention and
it all comes back to what your internal, unconscious, subconscious
story happens to be.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
And so.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
My intention is to live to be at least one
hundred and fifty at least okay, And people look at me, well,
why would you want to live that long?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
If I'm enjoying what I'm doing, why would I want
it to come to an end? And that's the thing
that people have to confront at the end of their lives.
It's just like, Okay, I don't want my life to
end so good, then what are you willing to do?
And medicine will sometimes have you do a whole bunch
of ridiculous things in an effort to quote extend your life.
And the question is is do you extend it by
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six months with no quality or do you extend it
more than that by doing the right thing and coming
from the right perspective and having the right mindset.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
That's right. So is there one thing that you could
recommend to the listeners who've stuck with us to improve
your health?
Speaker 5 (51:34):
If I had to say, I would say drink enough water.
That the biggest problem that we have and the first
thing that happens anytime you're admitted to a hospital. This
first thing they do is hook you the fluids because
they know, if it's just simply by you being there,
they know that you're dehydrated. And so if dehydration is
the one thing that we have the most amount of
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control over, that's going to create the largest amount of difference.
Other than breathing properly breathing, you're breathing, whether you're breathing
right or breathing wrong, you're still breathing. But whether you're
consuming enough water or not consuming enough water, that's something
you definitely have control over. So my advice to be
to the listener would be if you start to increase
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the amount of water that you drink over the course
of the day, and you become consistent with doing that,
and water is water, and anything that's not water is
not water. Anything that's not water is going to actually
cause you to lose more water. So I would ask
for you to just increase your water intake, and as
you get up to the levels that your body needs,
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then you will eventually just start to feel better, because
in my experience, when you're properly hydrated, ninety five percent
of your symptoms go away.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Doing nothing else.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Well, this has been a fantastic show. RICKM just happy
to have been able to go through all of this.
I want to give you an opportunity in our last
minute or so here to offer thanks for the best
ways to reach out to you, to make contact with you,
and to ask whatever questions one of our listeners might have.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Absolutely so, if you're a listener sitting at home and
you're on the fence about anything, or even if this
is the first time you hearing my show, I would
ask for you, if you have any questions at all,
to call me directly. I give you my cell phone
because I want to talk to you. I want to
answer your questions. I want to guide you to better health.
And my cell phone number is area code eight four
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five five six one two two two five Again eight
four five five six one two two two five. Yes,
that is a New York state area code, because that's
where I came from originally. I now live down in Pool,
or Georgia, and I keep the same cell phone because
I still have patients from New York. But my cell
phone number last time is eight four five five six
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one two two two five.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
You can text that phone. Uh, it may take me
a while. To get back to you because I'm just
not the text type. But if you want to do
the text thing, I would ask you to do it
in an email at doc Rick, doc ri c K
at spineboy dot com, and I would encourage you to
go to spineboy dot com and uh, just poke around
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the website and figure out what you need help with
and then give me a call. And so I want
to thank you again for tuning in, ask you to
tune back in next week, same health time, same health station.
Is doctor Richard on tune from Advanced Alternative Medicine Center,
saying I look forward to supporting you when you're health medic.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
See my physician, he said, you're definitely ill.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Sent to the nurse.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I've seen worse of the doctor just gave me a pill.
Take one of those three times a day.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
You don't ever stop until you're dirty, Dan or
Speaker 5 (54:46):
All the better keep out of the reach of children,
the things that might be
Be my physician.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, you're definitely ill. Sands to the nurse. I've
seen worse than the doctor.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Just gave me a pill.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Take one of those three times today.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You don't never stop on till you're really.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Dead er all with better keep out of the region children.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
The thing is that some side effects, you mean, the
probably will well.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Limits of fact, you can't.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'll give you another film.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
On top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of that, and many showed me his bill.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years to support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for
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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every
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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You are listening to the Alternative Healthcare Network.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health advocate, Mark saban Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Doc Rick, can you help somebody who has tried every
conceivable medical intervention or solution and nothing is helped.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Absolutely. Anyone who comes to me to address their health
concerns will get an education on the reason why they
have their health issue, which is different from the medical
perspective who treats what the conclusion of the person instead
of addressing the reason for why the situation developed. I
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am the why guy, not the what guy. With toxic
chemicals known to have harmful side effects, let's address the
cause of your condition once and for all. So that
you're no longer at the end of your rote with
your situation because every medical solution didn't do a darned
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thing for you, and nothing seems to be helping.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So what do you tell somebody that has tried all
the different medical solutions.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Come speak with me and let's see if we can
answer the unanswered questions of why you are continuing to suffer,
what is causing you to suffer, and then what do
we need to do to address that cause? And I
promise you that you'll be happy that you took the time.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, I remember a couple of weeks ago you
were talking about the fact that you were on a
conversation with a woman who called you about her health,
concerned that she wasn't able to get addressed and was
really closed minded to the possibility that maybe what you
had might help. I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean that
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you have to be convinced that at a go see
doc work, it's going to solve my problems. But at
least you need an open mind that there may be
something that you hadn't tried yet that could help you.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Right, And at the end of the day, if you
don't have an open mind please don't pick up the phone.
But if you're sitting at home and suffering and you're
frustrated with the lack of results from everything that you're trying,
if you don't try something new, then you won't get
a different outcome. But if you do try something new,
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you will get a different outcome, and maybe that different
outcome is going to be your savior in terms of
how you feel and how you function and ultimately what
your health is doing.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That'd be true if somebody has a serious condition and
it's pretty far down the road with it.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I don't know of anything more severe or serious than
stage four advanced stage four pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's pretty much at the end of the line there.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
And the gentleman that was referred to me by his
endocrinologist oncologists basically referred him to me, probably to get
him out of his office so that the patient wouldn't
die on his watch. When he went back to visit
his oncologist three months later, having put on twenty six
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twenty eight pounds and was no longer confined to a
wheelchair and walking on his own without even the use
of a cane, his oncologist did a happy dance because
in his world, people don't live that long, So to
see somebody live that long really opened his eyes to
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what's possible. And now it just becomes a question of
what is it going to take on his end to
convince his patients to actually come see me.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But I mean, it's a pretty brilliant thing that he
was open enough to send his patient to you and
find out for himself and actually to do a happy
dance when he found out that he survived that much longer.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And that was a byproduct of two things.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The patient's son.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Probably the best non healthcare researcher that I've ever met.
He knew more about his dad's condition then I'm going
to guess that anybody did until he came to see me.
And then I gave him new understandings that added to
what he already understood. And anytime the medical professionals wanted
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to say something, he already had an understanding of what
they were saying and why they were saying it. Nine
times out of ten, when the doctor comes in to
talk to you about their condition, they're going to talk
a little bit above your understanding, and that's in an
effort to move you down the hallway to doing whatever
it is that they want you to do.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I had a patient.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I had a patient two weeks ago call me from
the hospital. They had been admitted to the hospital while
they were in the emergency room and they were looking
for a bed that they were going to admit them.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Into the hospital.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And so when they finally admitted him to the hospital,
I said, well, call me when you finally get in.
So they called me and they were asking me questions
about how they should navigate the minefield that they were
now in the middle of. And as they were talking
to me on the phone, the doctor came in. So
my patient's sister handed the doctor the phone and now
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he's on the phone with me. He knows that this
is my name is doctor huntun. He has no idea
what kind of doctor I am. But he didn't ask
what kind of doctor I was. He just wanted to know,
you know, this is what's going on with Frank. These
are the tests that we need to order. We're not
going to have test results for about three days. He
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wants to go home. We just assume keep him here.
Is there anything that you could say to him that
will help him to stay? And I said, well, you
need to understand Frank is a very stubborn person. If
he makes up his mind that he wants to do something,
there's nothing that you're going to do. This's going to
change his mind. So that's the first thing that you
need to understand. If you can't articulate to him in
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a way that he's going to understand exactly why you're
telling him what you're telling him, and it's if it
doesn't make sense to him, you might as well go
bang your head against the wall. But if you can
break it down to a five or six year old
mentality where you're explaining to him why you need him
to stay while you're waiting for results instead of allowing
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him to go home and wait for results in the
comfort of his own home in his own bed.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Good luck with that.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
And so at the end of the day, he stayed.
He was there for five days, and when he got discharged,
he came to see me and we took care of
what we needed to take care of that they didn't
take care of at the hospital because they didn't even
understand what was going on with him. Even after the
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five days, Even after the five days and the test results,
they still didn't do anything to help him. They just
ran expensive tests and they got paid a handy amount
for the expensive tests, but they didn't really do anything
for him.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So what How often is it that people like that
come to see you when all hope is run out elsewhere?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Well, it depends upon them not giving up hope. I've
had lots of patients over the years who the doctors
discharged them saying there's nothing more that we can do
for you, and the patient's like, well, there's I want
to live. There's got to be something that can be done.
So I'm going to start looking. And they start, you know,
shaking the trees and kicking indoors, and they eventually come
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across my name, and you know, I'm somebody that you
can talk to. I'm somebody that's going to talk with you.
I'm not going to talk at you. I'm certainly going
to talk down to you. And i just want to
simplify things for people because I've spent the last thirty
seven years of my life looking for the whys, and
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so I'm pretty wise in terms of understanding the why,
so that I can help you understand why you have
what you have. And so I want to have that conversation.
I want to explain to you in simplified terms, what
your condition is, what it means, what that means for
your long term health, and what we can do in
order to remedy the why of what it is that
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you have, and then what you have tends to go away.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So once you get past that why and you understand
what's going on with the person, can you apply I
know you're very big advocate of proactive health care. Can
you apply those proactive approaches to somebody who has perhaps
got and already failing health.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I apply proactive health solutions to people who have been
told that there's nothing that can be done to help
their condition. And what we do is we change the
outcome of that, so.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You actually affect the trajectory of their illness and what
was anticipated to be something different, just like this pation
you talked about with pancreatic cancer, right.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And so the thing of it is, it's always my
intention to change the trajectory of the disease to help
restore their normal health. And it begins with an understanding
of why they have what they have, and then addressing
that why, which is the cause of the condition. And
we see that the condition goes away.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So does the only thing that you treat for people
if they have some kind of long term health condition.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I treat all disease because all disease is long term
if not properly addressed. So regardless of when a person
comes to me where we're interested in addressing the cause
and resolving their condition once and for all. And so
it just becomes a question of I can take a
long term disease and get rid of it, or I
can take a short term disease that's going to become
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long term and it never ends up becoming long term.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So how do you help somebody? Since you can't use medications,
how are you able to help somebody? I mean, what
do you actually use this going to help somebody improve
their health?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, it's simple, Mark.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
You need to understand that health is not based on
having or not having medication. Health is the absence of
disease and the lack of a need for medication. And
so how do I help somebody without using medication. I
don't focus on their disease. I don't focus on their medication.
I focus on well, why what is the story of
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the name that they've been given?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
That quote?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
The medication is supposed to help pacify for a period
of time as long as the medication is effective, and
for blood pressure the medication is effective for roughly twenty
four hours. Most medications are effective for only twenty four hours,
so that you're going to have to take a pill.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Every day and how long are you going to.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Have to take that for typically for the rest of
your life? And that begs the question, so, how is
the medication truly fixing my problem? And the answer is
it's not, but it is helping to create new problems.
And that's an absolute because those are the side effects
of the medication. And so how do I help somebody?
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I focus on treating the person and what's out of
balance for them and restoring health so that what was
out of balance now goes back into balance and then
the condition magically disappears just the opposite of the way
that it appeared.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So, once you have helped somebody back to balance in
that way, what do you need to do to help
somebody maintain their optimal health?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Well by being proactive and having addressed their health and
balance and removing them from existence. Then over the course
of that they start to learn how to take responsibility
for their health. They start to change their habits and behaviors.
They develop a new lifestyle and a lifestyle that promotes
health and wellness as opposed to a lifestyle there promotes
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sickness and disease.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You know, one of the big frustrations I think that
goes on with going to the medical profession is that
if you have vague feelings that maybe not be at
the level of really a symptom or a condition, but
you notice that you know, this doesn't feel right, and
it's even maybe hard to articulate what's going on. Is
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there a way around that kind of frustration? If I
see come.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
To see you, well, when you come to me, we are.
All we're doing in the office is we're evaluating function
based upon what you're indicating that isn't functioning properly. So,
as a functional healthcare practitioner, I use function to determine
what's working and what's not working, and then based upon
what's not working, we.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Expose them to.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
A whole bunch of different potential causes to find out
which one resonates with their particular problem, and then good,
now we understand what the cause is, and then we
come up with what are the tools and techniques that
we need to do in order to eliminate the cause
and restore balance and return the person back to health.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So do you ever telepatient has come to you? Well,
just come back when it gets worse and we'll deal
with it.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Then that's funny. I know that goes on, but that's
just retarded.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
If you're not willing to help the person, then just
stop practicing healthcare.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
If you don't understand the mechanism of cause in the
field that you're supposed to be an expert of, then
just stop practicing because that's just ridiculous. Come back when
it gets worse. No, what is the state of my
condition and you say it's not bad enough for medical intervention,
well good, then inform me what I should do so
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that it doesn't get worse. I understand that threatens your
future wellness as a healthcare provider. But the hippocratic goal
says to first do no harm. Well, I'm going to
ask you to go one step further. I'm going to
ask you to actually offer me advice and information that
I can apply to much my situation to make my
situation go away. And that's the way health care should be,
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and in my office, that's exactly how it is.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Well well, I mean in that regard, I mean, how
long does it take between the time you start to
notice a vague symptom and when you've actually got something
that registers as a full blown disease.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Well, you have to lose sixty percent of normal functioning
in order to have a symptom, just to have a symptom,
just to have a.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Symptom, not even a disease at that point.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Well, you have a disease at that point, you do.
You had a disease even before you had a symptom.
And that's the misunderstanding and the disconnect that we have
in the health care industry is diase. When you lose
one percent of normal functioning, you're not healthy. You don't
necessarily see yourself as not being healthy. You're functioning at
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ninety nine percent. And for a lot of people, ninety
nine percent is acceptable. For a lot of people, seventy
five percent is acceptable. Hell, for a majority of the
people in our country, forty percent is considered acceptable because
they will go to their doctor when they have full
blown symptoms, which means their body's functioning at forty percent
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of its ability, and they're willing to go listen to
the doctor say, well, you're lacking this toxic chemical that's
preventing your body from doing what it's supposed to do.
So let's outsource what your body should be doing by
giving you this toxic chemical, and it's going to lift
you out of the forty percent at least in terms
of how you're feeling. But we're going to have to
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manage you because we know that you're functioning it only
forty percent or less, and we want to make sure
that it's not getting worse. So you're going to have
to come back in regularly to make sure that the
medication isn't killing you and to make sure that your
problem isn't getting any worse. Even though it's going to
get worse based upon how we're treating it, we're actually
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counting on it getting worse because that's when we get
to bring in the other half of our healthcare industry,
and that's where we get to do surgical intervention.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So in order to be able to get through this
whole process, what you really want to be able to
do is address the situation before it becomes a full
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Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know dot. One of the questions that I think
plagues me about this whole issue of coming down with
diseases is why can't your immune system fight off the
encroaching disease before it ever gets into your system.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Well, for most people in our society, unfortunately, the immune
system is too weak to recognize the problem, and that
is the main reason why the person gets sick. Your
immune system is supposed to identify something wallet off and
get rid of it before it replicates and becomes overwhelming
to the system. The average person in our country isn't
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anywhere close to being able to do that. So what
ends up happening is things get into the body, they
set up shop, they create a disease process, and then
that disease process expands and eventually leads to full blown disease,
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and the doctors their hands are tied because of the
health insurance industry, who won't pick up the cost of
any care involved until the person is in full blown disease.
So doctors don't look to help anybody because they can't
get paid until the person's in full blown disease.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So there's no.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Impetus, there's no desire, there's no focus on keeping people
well because once the person's out of symptom function where
they're above forty percent of normal, once they're at forty
one percent of normal, functioning. Insurance won't pay for any intervention,
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so doctor's hands are tied. If they want to get paid,
they have to do what the insurance company will pay for.
And so the whole healthcare industry has been turned ass
over tea kettle to where nobody's actually focused on health.
They're just managing disease and sickness.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, it's kind of like if you go to the doctor,
they're spending most of their time staring at their screen
and hardly looking at you, the patient in the same
room right now. I mean, if you get sick a lot,
are there ways to strengthen your immune system to start
reversing that process?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Absolutely, you need to feed it during and after eliminating
cause for the weak immune system. I take an immune
building actually quite a number of immune and building supplements
every single day, and that's what keeps my immune system
in tip top shape, so that when people bring me
their sickness and they cough, breathe, sneeze and mucus on me,
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I don't get what they have. I'm never concerned about
getting what they have because I know my immune systems
at its highest level that I can keep it at
because I just do it all day, every day.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
M h. Now, why is it that? And I think
you said this before, but why is it that medications
won't help you fight off a disease?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
The medication stress the bodies and does nothing to correct
the reason for the problem to begin with. Therefore, medications
don't They're not designed to fight off disease, They're designed
to reduce the symptom.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
So would it be fair to say that you're anti medicine.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
No, I'm not anti medicine. I'm anti stupidity. If you're
going to solve a problem, solve the problem. Don't temporarily
solve the problem and then make people depend upon your
temporary solution. If you're not gonna fix it, don't get involved.
If you're gonna fix it, good, fix it, be done
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with it, and allow the person to go on with
their life.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So, if I'm under a doctor's care and using medication,
you don't prescribe medications. But if I'm under a doctor's
care and I'm using medications, can I still come and
see you and get help?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Absolutely, Because what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna find
out the reason why you need the medication. I'm going
to address that reason, you're no longer gonna need the
medication and your health is going to be restored.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, what I don't need the medication? What do I
do then? I mean, my doctors prescribe the medication. Do
I just stop?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Well, you shouldn't just stop without proper supervision. You need
to go have a conversation with a guy that prescribed
the medication or the gal to show them that you've
improved your health and that you no longer need it.
Because when you take it, you don't feel good, and
when you don't take it, you feel better. Therefore, you
think you should stop. But I want to do it
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under proper supervision. And if your doctor won't allow you
to come off your medication because they're too insecure to
make a living without you, you know, basically paying into
their retirement account by buying their medication, go talk to
the pharmacist and tell ask the pharmacist what it takes
to reduce the use of the medication. Can you just
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stop it? Can you slowly reduce the amount over time
to where then you no longer need it? Because you're
either going to do it in a controlled, supported way,
or you're going to do it flying by the seat
of your pants.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But either way, you're going.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
To do it now before you get to the point
where you're serious in trouble. How do you know if
your health is going in the wrong direction?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Check in with functional tests, which can cost a lot,
or come to me and we'll find your functional illnesses
based upon my evaluation. And the cost of that is
minimal compared to what there are simple tests that medical
doctors perform which can add up to as much as
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fifteen hundred dollars. I can probably get you well for
under fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Dollars, not just find out, but get you well.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Get you well.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
For the same cost of that one test. That's going
to let them, with their lack of understanding, understand what's
going on with you. They order the test because they
don't have the brain capacity to actually tell you what
your problem is, So they need some validation that the
insurance company is going to pay for, and that's going
to increase the amount of money in their coffers so
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that they can continue to order the expensive equipment and
maintain the hotel that is now the hospital.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, you you don't have a lot of expensive equipment
in your practice, do you?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I really don't have any expensive equipment in my practice
other than the things that I use to evaluate people,
which has been paid for so one time payment and
it's a couple maybe even a few hundred dollars, and
once that's paid for, it just that's the only tools
that I need mm hm.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So I mean going to you is more like what
it used to be going to the country doctor back
maybe one hundred years ago, when you would see that
you're the guy that knew you, that maybe helped you
know your mother give birth to you, and we'll see
you all the way through your your adulthood.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
All right, hopefully, And I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And there was a movie a number of years back
with Michael J. Fox called Doc Hollywood, and you know,
he was an arrogant young doctor who was leaving medical
school to go out to the West Coast where he
was going to step into his big, beautiful practice and
make all sorts of money and deal with all sorts
of famous people. And over the course of doing that,
he had a car accident where he took out the
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white picket fence of the town judge. So the judge
basically find him. He had to stay and help out
at the health center because the doctor, the old time doc,
he was either sick or out of town.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't remember what the story was, but.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
So Doc Hollywood ended up doing what he was doing,
and he was all into the gadgets and gizmos and
things being expensive, and this one particular kid had a problem.
And the nurse who was the nurse of the town doc,
was trying to tell the Doc Hollywood guy that what
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you're recommending for this for our patient here, I don't
think it's the right solution. And he's just like, you know,
your guys are stuck back in old school days and
you don't have the technology or the understanding, and you
just don't understand what's going on. And so she called
the town doc, and the town doc said we'll do this,
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that and the other thing, and the kid will be fine.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And Michael J.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Fox's character got all enraged over the fact that that
just is insane and that, you know, he shouldn't be
practicing anymore of this, that and the other thing.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
And so the nurse called the doctor back.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
So now the doctor gets off of his duff and
he comes into the office, cracks open a can of coke,
has a kid drink the can of coke, and the
kid feels better immediately, and then he goes over and
he slaps Michael J. Fox in the face and says,
don't ever tell me how to fix my patient with
any of the crap that you're bringing here. And for me,
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it was very eye opening in the sense that we've
moved so far away from what doctors have known for centuries,
and we've become so enamored and influenced by something that's
been around for at this particular juncture, it's only been
around for about one hundred years, right, Well, what were
people doing before we had this one hundred years of
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toxic chemicals known to have harmful side effects. We were
doing naturalopathy. We were doing homeopathy, we were doing chiropractic,
we were doing you know, Native American healing. We were
doing whatever we had to do, and all of it
was natural because there wasn't a thing promoted by Rockefellers
and Carnegiese that made them a crapload of money using
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petroleum products and basically moving our health in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It didn't move our health in the right direction, that's
for sure. Now. One of the things that is kind
of at the forefront of disease states. One of the
early signs and probably the universal sign is inflammation causes inflammation.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
The bodies, letting you know that there are nutritional efficiencies
by becoming in flame. Lack of necessary nutrition to maintain
normal and healthy function results in inflammation. And that's the
first indication that a person is heading on the path
to sickness and disease. And what was the reason why
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they have inflammation because they lack the proper nutrition. Lack
of normal nutrition puts you on the slippery slope that
ultimately ends up in disease.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
But I thought the inflammation of that to your body
fights off like having a fever. It means your body's
in immune system is fighting off what's wrong.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Right, and when you have a fever in your body
has to boil off the infection instead of preventing the
infection from happening.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
To begin with.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
If your immune system gets activated, it's because your border
wall is permeable. If you have enough vitamin C and
enough calcium, then pathogens don't get into the body activating
the immune system. So if you have enough ingredients to
help maintain the integrity so that infection doesn't actually get
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into the body, then you don't need all the anti
inflammatories and the other medications. But inflammation is the first
indication that you're suffering from nutritional deficiency.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So is there a problem at that point with taking
anti inflammatories? Uh?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
No, that'll end the crisis of inflammation, but it's not
fixing the deficiency.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Uh huh. So what happens if you don't do something
about the cause of your inflammation? What happens next?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
It becomes a chronic condition and then you're managing it
for the rest of your life, which makes a lot
of money for the healthcare industry, but it doesn't allow
you to enjoy your life the way that God intended
for you.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So if you want to detour off that path and
get back on the road towards health, how long does
that take?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Everybody's a little different. Some people are stubborn, they're not
willing to look in a different direction, and they're you know,
dare I say brainwash to think that medicine is the
best solution. And the simple thing that I want everybody
to consider is is if you take toxic chemicals and
you put them in a stream, they call that what right?
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If you take those same toxic chemicals and filter them
through your liver and your kidneys. What do they call
that modern medicine? What's the difference the way that it's
being applied. If it's outside the body, it's harmful. If
it's inside the body seems to be acceptable, and that's
just retarded.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So how do you know you're ever going to get
healthy if you go down on the alternative healthcare route?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I can't speak for all of them, but in my office,
we actually monitor your progress. We see the change, We
see the health returning, We see the muscle response becoming stronger.
May not be at one hundred percent, but if it's
was it fifty percent and now it's at seventy five percent,
there's still a weakness there.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
We're not done.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
We want to keep supporting it, but we want to
support it until you get all the way to the
top of the mountain, and then at that point we
make adjustments into what we're doing in order to maintain
you being there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now, can you help a person who is already immuno compromised?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Love helping people who are immunal compromised? What do you
think The first thing I'm going.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
To do is.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
To strengthen their immunes.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
I'm going to feed their immune system exactly, their immunal compromise. Well,
what do we have to do to restore balance to
their immune system? We got to feed it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So is there a to using alternative medicine? I mean
with drugs, there's always side effects, that's a downside to it.
Is there a downside to using alternative medicine?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Lack of faith, lack of understanding. If you go to
a practitioner that knows what he's doing, and he or
she has a system that they use that has its
own checks and balances to see the progress that's going
on within the individual that you're helping, then you don't
have bad responses. There's a thing that's involved in homeopathy.
(34:30):
It's called a Herkimer response, and it's a negative response
to the proper solution. And all that means is is
this the right solution? It's just too concentrated, deluded a
couple thousand times or ten thousand times, or even one
hundred thousand times and apply it in a much smaller
dilution and you'll get the better response. But Herkimer responses
(34:54):
is too much, too fast mm hmm. Even though it's
the right solution, even.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Though it's the right solution. So they're too much of
a good thing could be a problem.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Too much of a good thing when the body doesn't
have the pathways in which to process that good thing
is just going to lead to other problems.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So how do you go about if you want to
find an alternative healthcare Obviously we can find you because
we're going to tell you how to find you on
the show. But what if you're not, say, in the
area that you service, how would you find the right practitioners.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Well, you've got to start doing a Google search, and
you've got to look for alternative healthcare practitioners. And you know, however,
the non specific search is in Google, it may give
you people all over the country. If it's in a
particular area, then it may only give you the people
associated with that specific area. If you're looking in your
(35:47):
town and there isn't one, then you're going to get
no results. So let's just a question of you having
to do your homework and do your research. Do your
homework in terms of what kind of practitioner you looking for,
and then do your research to find that kind of practitioner.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Mm hmm, Well, this is a this is a fabulous
conversation to be having with you. Doc. We need to
take the short commercial break to hear from our general sponsor,
the Alternative Healthcare Network dot com. When we get back,
I want to get into the last phase of our
conversation here about the difference between healthcare and sickness care.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Absolutely, but listen to this commercial from our general sponsor.
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Speaker 4 (36:58):
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Speaker 1 (37:02):
So Doc, can you describe for us what the stages
are going from being healthy to actually becoming ill.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well, there's five stages.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
First one is inflammation and that's where the body is
letting you know that it's lacking the ingredients that it needs,
and it's having a temper tension to let you know
that it's not getting its needs met. That's the inflammation.
The second phase is called deposition, and that's where you
start to deposit within the cell itself the ingredients that
(37:38):
you do have that isn't sufficient in order to produce
the normal response. So if you need ten parts of
something in order to function properly, and your diet is
only supplying you with seven and you're missing the vital three,
you're going to get deposits of those sevens. And what
that ends up doing is it ends up clogging the cell.
(38:00):
So the cell moves all those things out to the side,
which is then forced into the cell wall. And that's
the third phase a body breakdown, which is called impregnation.
And then once you deposit those things into the cell wall,
the integrity of the cell is going to be compromised,
and that leads to the fourth phase of the body
(38:21):
breaking down, which is the first physical indication that you
have a problem, and that's called degeneration. That's the first
physical sign that you notice that things aren't aging the
way that they're supposed to. And then finally the process
continues to degenerate and that leads to the cell mutating
or changing the way that it functions all together, and
(38:44):
that's called d differentiation, and that typically results in things
like cancer or an autoimmune disease. So those are the
five stages of breakdown from going from health all the
way to illness, and it all starts with nutritional deficiencies.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Now is it the same thing when I catch a cold,
which is a short term illness versus the long term
conditions like diabetes and heart disease.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Well, on one level, the answer is yes. You've gone
from being normal to being out of balance and out
of normal certainly having a cold versus a diabetes or
a heart disease. The whole mechanism is different ones caused
by a pathogen. The other ones are the effects of
nutritional deficiencies. But either way, you're having an abnormal situation
(39:40):
that you shouldn't be having.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Now, what is it that's actually causing your body to
break down? I mean, is it simply because you're getting
all these toxins in and pollution in and are there
a whole series of different things that cause that breakdown?
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Well, yeah, I mean The primary reason is you have
crappy ingredients. You're trying to build a building with sand
instead of building a building with cement. What's the integrity
of that building and what's the difference in the integrity.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well, those sand castles by the shore get washed away
by the.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Waves, they do pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
But you put a few cinder blocks in there as
a defense mechanism from the sea that keeps coming in
and going out. Then you can build a sand castle
behind it and it'll stand very well when the sand dehydrates,
and then it almost sets up like a brick.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
And so at the end of the day, we need
to understand if you don't have the proper nutrition, your
body's going to break down. And if you compound that
with stress, the stress is going to make you go
through resources faster than if you're not stressed. So, if
you're stressing your body out and going through resources that
(40:55):
you don't continue to replenish with high quality ingredients, then
that's the base for disease right there.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
And is that going to be the kind of thing
you can do for yourself to avoid catching some kind
of contagious disease.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Well, that's what I do I maintain a strong and
healthy body with a strong and healthy immune defense system,
and then I don't have to worry about getting sick
or catching quote something contagious.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Now, in your practice, you know, you talked a lot
about doing things where you're helping people get better and
improve their health. But what about somebody that came to
you that had a terminal disease? Can you help somebody
in that situation where they've already been sort of given
their you know, eviction notice off this planet.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Absolutely going to help them for as long as they
desire health and are willing to do the work, and
the terminal diagnosis will always win. Everyone dies at some point,
mark and at least for now. And you know, we
we've talked over the last several months about the patient
that was referred to me by as oncologists with advanced
(41:59):
stage four pancreatic cancer, and the oncologist, in my belief,
I think that he referred him to me because he
didn't want him dying in his own office and under
his own watch, so he wanted to give it to
somebody else to deal with that. And if he didn't
know anybody else in the medical profession to refer them
to because they all have the same mentality. Well, let
(42:20):
me refirm to somebody outside of the medical professional, let's
see what they can do. And we did a lot
for him and he lived very very well and very
very successful until medicine actually killed him by doing a
surgical procedure that he never recovered from.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Uh huh. So is there a survival point to medicine
and just trying to get you to stay alive? I
mean that sounds so different than what you're talking about,
which is to try to bring somebody back into health
and to improve their well.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Medicine's perspective is is using whatever measures are necessary to
keep the person alive for his long long as possible,
and sometimes it will violate the hippocratic oath to first
do no harm. And that's ultimately what happens in a
lot of cancer treatments. You know, when they're using chemotherapy,
they've disavowed us of the toxic nature of it, and
(43:17):
that violates to hippocratic oath. But since the whole industry
is doing it and they get some level of results
where they think that they have some level of success,
the mentality is is that we give you these toxic chemicals,
and your body's spirit is stronger than cancer's ability to
withstand the toxic chemicals, then you'll live. And if your
(43:40):
spirit isn't strong enough to withstand the toxic chemicals, then
you'll succumb to the diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
And so.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I don't think putting toxic chemicals into a person's body
in an effort to promote more health is the smartest
way to go about helping them.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
But there are cases where people have remissions from doing chemo,
and so there are.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
My question is is what they were treating them for?
And this may be a little bit controversial, but what
the hell, I'll say it. Maybe what they were giving
them chemo for wasn't actually cancer, so they could say
that they were in remission. But if they never had
cancer to begin with, and then they say that they're
in remission, if that's what the story is, that's what
(44:27):
the story is.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Well, that seems like that's that would be pretty suspect.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
If that was actually it would be suspect. But who's
going to question the doctor.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Nobody questions the doctor. I'll give you a completely different example.
I had a gentleman that was referred to my office
by his mom because unfortunately, he went out with one
of his friends and he was talked into smoking some marijuana.
The marijuana had something in it and it caused him
(45:04):
to have a seizure, so they admitted him into the hospital.
They admitted him under the diagnosis of drug addict. He
took one puff one toke if he will, of marijuana
that was lace with something that caused him to go
(45:25):
into a seizure, and the diagnosis when he was admitted
to the hospital was that he's a drug addict. So
what kind of misdirection are we already talking about?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Now?
Speaker 5 (45:40):
The story gets better in the course he gets admitted
to ICU. In the course of staying in ICU, guess
what they administered to him in an effort to quote
help him feel better?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Drugs morphine.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
Let's talk about what drugs were administered to him. Okay,
what's the worst drug in the world right now that
they're trying desperately to keep from coming into our country.
That was given to him. If that wasn't enough, they
also gave him oxy codo because he had an adverse
(46:19):
response to smoking pot for the first time in his life,
so they compounded They called him an addict, and they
compounded the diagnosis of being an addicts by giving him
(46:39):
two of the most toxic, highly addictive drugs possible to
treat the diagnosis of him being an addict after having
smoked pot one time. What do you make of that scenario, Mark.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I mean, that's just kind of what make me crazy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
And that's exactly why his parents came with him and
sat in my office and we spent two and a
half hours together helping them to understand what's going on
with him, why it's going on with him, and why
the circumstances of what had happened to him would have happened.
And we're in the process of fixing everything that's out
of balance with him so that he can just simply
(47:25):
go back to being a normal twenty something year old.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Wow. I mean it seems like, you know, one of
the things that with people who are ill. I mean,
it's obviously different than the example you just gave, but
people who are ill and maybe given a terminal sentence,
but it seems like the death I don't know which
(47:51):
is scarier, death or dying. I mean, can you help
somebody who was afraid of dying? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:58):
Help them focus on living while they and supporting the
understanding of what death means from a soul's perspective versus
the physical perspective. That's why I always encourage people to
appreciate what they have, as it can change quite quickly
at any moment, and so appreciate where you are with
what you have. Appreciate family, Appreciate friends, Appreciate whatever lifestyle
(48:22):
that you have. Focus on what you have, don't focus
on what you don't have, because all of life is
ultimately terminal, and you could focus on the fact that
that's coming, or you could focus on living. So and
the final scene of Shawshank Redemption and throughout the course
(48:48):
of Shawshank Redemption, Morgan Freeman's character was quoted as saying,
you either get busy living or get busy dying. And
he decided that he wasn't going to die in prison,
so he was able to get out and go find
his friend on some beach on the southern part of
Mexico and whatever. And it's just, you know, it's just it.
(49:11):
You know, how do you choose to look at life?
Is the glass half full or is it half empty?
And are you already halfway there? Are you only halfway there.
It just depends upon your perspective. And you know, God
gives you free will to define your life. The way
that you define your life and based upon how you
look at the world and what your perspective is, whether
(49:32):
it's positive or negative, is.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Going to be. You know, you're going to.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
Demonstrate to the world how you think and how you
feel based upon how you present yourself to the world.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, I'm do you know, is there a reason why
some people lived to be one hundred you were talking
about the the blue zones, and some other people might
die in their sixties or even thirties.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
Well, it just depends upon the lifestyle that they live.
My perspective is the quote contractual agreement that you made
with the creator in terms of what kind of life
you want to have and what you want to experience.
And you know, there are people who live life hard
and there are people who live life easy. And when
you find something that works, if you keep doing it,
(50:15):
it'll continue to work. If you don't know what works
and what doesn't work, and you're just flying by the
seat of your pants and you know outcomes are going
to occur. But it all comes back to intention and
it all comes back to what your internal, unconscious, subconscious
story happens to be.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
And so.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
My intention is to live to be at least one
hundred and fifty at least okay, And people look at me, well,
why would you want to live that long?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
If I'm enjoying what I'm doing, why would I want
it to come to an end? And that's the thing
that people have to confront at the end of their lives.
It's just like, Okay, I don't want my life to
end so good, then what are you willing to do?
And medicine will sometimes have you do a whole bunch
of ridiculous things in an effort to quote extend your life.
And the question is is do you extend it by
(51:07):
six months with no quality or do you extend it
more than that by doing the right thing and coming
from the right perspective and having the right mindset.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
That's right. So is there one thing that you could
recommend to the listeners who've stuck with us to improve
your health?
Speaker 5 (51:34):
If I had to say, I would say drink enough water.
That the biggest problem that we have and the first
thing that happens anytime you're admitted to a hospital. This
first thing they do is hook you the fluids because
they know, if it's just simply by you being there,
they know that you're dehydrated. And so if dehydration is
the one thing that we have the most amount of
(51:55):
control over, that's going to create the largest amount of difference.
Other than breathing properly breathing, you're breathing, whether you're breathing
right or breathing wrong, you're still breathing. But whether you're
consuming enough water or not consuming enough water, that's something
you definitely have control over. So my advice to be
to the listener would be if you start to increase
(52:16):
the amount of water that you drink over the course
of the day, and you become consistent with doing that,
and water is water, and anything that's not water is
not water. Anything that's not water is going to actually
cause you to lose more water. So I would ask
for you to just increase your water intake, and as
you get up to the levels that your body needs,
(52:38):
then you will eventually just start to feel better, because
in my experience, when you're properly hydrated, ninety five percent
of your symptoms go away.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Doing nothing else.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Well, this has been a fantastic show. RICKM just happy
to have been able to go through all of this.
I want to give you an opportunity in our last
minute or so here to offer thanks for the best
ways to reach out to you, to make contact with you,
and to ask whatever questions one of our listeners might have.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Absolutely so, if you're a listener sitting at home and
you're on the fence about anything, or even if this
is the first time you hearing my show, I would
ask for you, if you have any questions at all,
to call me directly. I give you my cell phone
because I want to talk to you. I want to
answer your questions. I want to guide you to better health.
And my cell phone number is area code eight four
(53:28):
five five six one two two two five Again eight
four five five six one two two two five. Yes,
that is a New York state area code, because that's
where I came from originally. I now live down in Pool,
or Georgia, and I keep the same cell phone because
I still have patients from New York. But my cell
phone number last time is eight four five five six
(53:52):
one two two two five.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
You can text that phone. Uh, it may take me
a while. To get back to you because I'm just
not the text type. But if you want to do
the text thing, I would ask you to do it
in an email at doc Rick, doc ri c K
at spineboy dot com, and I would encourage you to
go to spineboy dot com and uh, just poke around
(54:15):
the website and figure out what you need help with
and then give me a call. And so I want
to thank you again for tuning in, ask you to
tune back in next week, same health time, same health station.
Is doctor Richard on tune from Advanced Alternative Medicine Center,
saying I look forward to supporting you when you're health medic.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
See my physician, he said, you're definitely ill.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Sent to the nurse.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I've seen worse of the doctor just gave me a pill.
Take one of those three times a day.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
You don't ever stop until you're dirty, Dan or
Speaker 5 (54:46):
All the better keep out of the reach of children,
the things that might be
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