Episode 131: Heavy Metals

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Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters. The
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Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
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Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, Doc Rick, I'm really looking forward to today's show.
It's a topic that you've talked to me about before,
and it seems to be a problem that I don't
know if a lot of people recognize themselves or think
about very often. But it's this idea of heavy metal toxicity.
What exactly is toxicity?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, I appreciate that, Mark. It's the accumulation of heavy
metals within the body due to ingesting, breathing, or touching
all of them, and they get stuck in the body
due to being too heavy for the body to excrete. Naturally,
they're at least thirty that people do develop a problem with.
And one of the things we check for in our
initial evaluation and ongoing each successive visit after that is

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for heavy metals, and if we find them, then we
do a specific treatment and recommend a specific supplement that
will then pull that heavy metal out of their system.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
So, I mean it sounds like there are a lot
of these different heavy metals, So how do you actually
go about finding them in the body.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, we have a test kit that has thirty different
heavy metals in it, ones like aluminum and mercury and
copper or lead, arsenic, admium, lots of different ones, thirty total.
And when we use our tool of manual muscle testing

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when provoking them with the energy frequency that corresponds to
the specific heavy metal, if it creates a weakness, we
know that their body has a problem with it, and
then we do a treatment and recommend a supplement that
binds to the heavy metal so that the body can
then have it in a new form and be able

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to excrete it.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, that's really interesting, So what made this such a
major health problem?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
If they get deposited into the nervous system. It results
in various neurological symptoms, and medicine will be quick to
diagnose things like multiple sclerosis, and so it becomes a
major health problem when it interferes with how the body
is supposed to function. And like I said, if it's
the nervous system, then that's definitely an impact how the

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body functions.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, that's you know, you mentioned aluminum. And it's really
interesting because I once had a business colleague that I
worked with. This is many, many years ago, and he
drank vast amounts of sodas. Diet sodas were in aluminum cans,
and a couple of years after our partnership ended, he

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ended up with multiple sclerosis. And I then heard that
that may be one of the causes or one of
the factors that leads people to have that particular trouble.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, it's certainly interesting because I had a patient a
number of years ago who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis
and he was confined.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
To a wheelchair, and.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know, he came into the office, we did an evaluation,
we found a particular issue that he had, and so
we treated that particular issue and he was able to
get out of his wheelchair and walk around normally until
he walked back into his neurologist office, and his neurologist
basically browbeat him into submissions, claiming that he had MS

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and that there was nothing that he was going to
do that was going to change that. And he didn't
even acknowledge the fact that the man was walking now
and didn't need a wheelchair. And the sad part was,
within about four or five weeks he was back in
his wheelchair and he never made any progress after that
because he had totally brought into and made it his

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own personal perspective that he had this condition that his
neurologist basically enforced upon him.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's interesting. I mean I had a tai Chi student
similarly who was very capable of doing it just about
everything that we did, and his sister, who had got
contracted at the same time as he did, who didn't
do taichi, was confined to a wheelchair. So there seemed
to be and I think this is something that you
talk about. There are multiple ways of treating different kinds

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of things that might plague you, and multiple ways to
approach fixing a problem.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Right, And so what's interesting for me early on in
my career, I had a woman come into my office
who definitely had MS.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
She didn't live all that long.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
We were helping her and the disease just continue to progress.
And she was twenty eight when she came into my office,
and I had heard that by the age of thirty
two that she had died from her condition. And so
when I see TV commercials and I hear people talking
about MS that quote relapses and remittance, and you know,

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these people are in their late fifties and early sixties,
I'm going to promise you that they have something that's
mimicking MS, but they don't have. MS is a very
short lived disease and the persons to come to it
quite quickly. But there are lots of things that can
mimic MS, that can show up as quote plaquing in

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the radiographic films that they use in order to diagnose it.
But I've even had interactions with radiologists to where I
will suggest heavy metals and they won't even open their
mind for a millisecond to even consider that that's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Interesting, but you've treated people from heavy metal issues that
may have had that diagnosis.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I presume yes.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
And the interesting thing is is when you get them
to follow through with the treatment and we get them
their body to recognize the fact that these are the
heavy metals that they're having issues with and where they're
being affected by it, they have an ability to start
recovering their neurological function. And it's so rewarding to see.

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It's so amazing and the level of grind attitude that
goes back and forth between myself for being able to
help the person, but for the person's appreciation for the
help that I've given. It's just that's what as far
as I'm concerned, that's what life is about.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Those are the real rewards. So now, I mean when
I've heard of heavy metals, or when I think of
heavy metals, I think about lead or gold, but you
mentioned aluminum, which I've always thought of as being one
of the lighter metals, but still it is considered a
heavy metal.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, any metal that is not ideal for the body
is considered a heavy metal. And when you have them
trapped within the body, they cause various health issues that
seem irregular for doctors to recognize and address, and we
do it every day for those with the problem, and
we help them avoid the long term consequences of not

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doing anything to address it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
So, I mean, there's a lot more to this problem
than the lead that poisonous children. You hear about that,
and lead and paint and we used to have and gasoline.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Right, So there's a lot more. There's mercury in tuna
and vaccines, there's aluminum in any perferance and cooking utensils.
There's copper and pipes. There's lots of sources that we're
exposed to, and if you're exposed to them on a
regular basis, then you're going to start to accumulate them
within your body. And like I said, if it interferes
with how the nervous system functions, then you're going to

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develop neurological symptoms that most doctors who won't take the
time to look for heavy metals won't necessarily address the problem,
and you'll be given a permanent diagnosis in moving in
a direction that's never going to change if anything is
going to progress in the direction of being worse.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
You know, we were talking the other week, I think
it was about the way illnesses progress, and one of
the things would seem to me about this heavy metal
issue is that you may have heavy metals a long
time before you become symptomatic with a condition like MS
or some of the other conditions that you might see,

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like mercury, you know, causes people to go mad. You
hear about that kind.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Of thing, right, And so it's it's important that.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
One of my mentors, the late great doctor Victor Frank
he talked about anything can cause anything, and anything can
cure anything. Ask the body, give the body what it's
asking for, and get the hell out of the way.
And having heeded his advice from over thirty years ago,
it's uh, you know, it's it's it's just refreshing to
see that that always applies in every patient that comes

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to see me. And for those who are ready to
help themselves, then they embrace what it is that we found.
For those who aren't ready to help themselves, they'll find
a way to justify in whatever terms they need to
in order to make me wrong because they're not ready
to confront their circumstances. And I, you know, I don't
judge where people are coming from. I just feel sad

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for people who are missing an opportunity in which to
help themselves because their belief system or even their medical
doctor's belief system isn't as expansive enough to include things
that they.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Don't know or don't understand.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, how do you determine what the body needs? You said,
you give the body what it needs, but how do
you determine that?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Well, through the techniques that I use in the office,
we have ways to ask about various nutritional deficiencies because
that's what causes all disease. And so depending upon what
a person is dealing with in their quote medical diagnosis,
we relate that to any deficiency that they could have nutritionally.

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And we have a large series of supplements that are
made from whole foods that were designed by a wonderful
gentleman by the name of doctor Royal Lee, starting back
in the nineteen twenties. And you know, their company is
ninety five years old, ninety six years old this year.

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And you know, the truth is the truth. The truth
doesn't change. And so what doctor Lee was able to
learn way back then still applies today. And lucky for
us that the company that he founded is still kept
within the family and they're still producing, and they're still

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expanding and understanding as the technology improves and the understanding
of what's in the various foods and the components that
they use within their whole food supplements that helped create
change within the body. You know, I have the tools,
and I have the methods in which to find problems

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and the tools in which to fix those problems. And
so for me, it's always exciting to meet people and
get a sense of what they've been through and if
they're open to coming in to my office, and a
lot of times they are when they start. May many
times they're very curious. But when the rubber meets the road,

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those who are truly understanding what it is that I
do and how it is that I do it, they always.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Jump in with both feet.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
And you know, again, no judgment towards anybody who has
a little bit of trepidation or a little bit of fear,
or a little bit of whatever. But it's always rewarding
when somebody says no initially and they come back I
don't know, six months, a year, two years, three years later,
and they're apologetic that they weren't ready to start, and
I reassure them that they don't need to apologize. I

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understand nobody's more skeptical about what I do than me.
I come to work every day with the understandings that
have been given me by people who are much more
brilliant than I am, and I challenge the premises that
they've taught me every single day on every single patient.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
And so far over the last.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Thirty five thirty seven years, I haven't been able to
find anybody that doesn't line up with the techniques and
the methods that I use in the office in order
to help them.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, and I think you know, it would be fair
to say that you're not the only one that does
these uses these methods, and it would be fair to say, right,
I mean, there are a lot of people who can
do similar things. I mean, obviously, if there's a company
that's been around for ninety six years, you're not ninety
six years old.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
So nope, clearly not clearly not yet.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, and where you're working on it. But the thing
is is that you're saying that all we ingest these things.
And I think you said you can eat them, You
could get them through your skin contact.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Right, Well, we used to breathe car exhaust, that's right.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
They used to have leads when using.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Lead gas, Right, what do you think you're inhaling.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
You must be inhaling the life, you know, and it's.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
It's it's like okay, so good.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
They don't do that anymore in our society, and they
recognize the negative consequences because lead is a neurotoxin and
so it is going to directly affect how your nervous
system functions. And so we want to make sure that
if a person has that because maybe they live in
an old house that happens to never have had their
lead piping replaced, or they you know, there's different ways

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that we can get lead into our system, and so
it's important for us. You know, you buy different pots,
different ceramics made from clay that has lead in it,
and then you're using that maybe you're even putting it
in your microwave, and it's like okay. So people just

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need to understand that I don't know what they're doing
in their life, and maybe they're not even aware of
what they're doing in their life and the consequences that
it has. But if they come into my office and
we're able to explain what their health situation is because
we found things that correlate to the underlying cause of
their health issue, then at least rest in the fact

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that you found somebody that understands you and has the
ability to help you, and then just do whatever the
work is in order to fix yourself so that you
don't have to have that anymore. And I'll go as
fast or as slow as you need to go, because honestly,
it's not about me at all. I'm just a facilitator,
and all I want to do is I want to
facilitate as many of my brothers and sisters as possible

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in order to change the way that the planet functions
and the health of where we go. Because I personally
don't feel that Big Pharma has any vested interest in
helping people extend their lives in a healthy way.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, and I think, you know, we talk often about
there are a lot of different things that you treat,
and a lot of different causes for some of the
things you treat. Today we're specifically focusing on this issue
of heavy metal toxicity. But I think from a certain standpoint,
it might be fair to say that you really don't
care which of the avenue somebody's health has gone down

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to become less than one hundred percent. You simply deal
with the person.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Right, I just want to bring them back to as
close to one hundred percent as possible. And each person
that comes into my office is very unique. And the
difference between what I do by treating each person as
a unique individual, what I've seen and what I've heard,
and what most of my patients have experienced at one
point or another prior to coming to me, is that

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medicine does everything they can to identify what a person
has and they treat them based upon that what, without
understanding why, or without understanding the uniqueness of that individual.
Just because one person has high blood pressure doesn't mean
that they need the same treatment as everybody else who
has high blood pressure. In fact, I would venture to

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say that every person that has high blood pressure has
their version of what leads to high blood pressure.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
And you need to ferret out.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You need to understand what's what's the underlying cause that's
creating high.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Blood pressure within them, and.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
When you address that, then problems go away. And that's
ultimately what the what my intention is.

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Speaker 1 (19:08):
So in our first segment we were talking about metals
that are not good for your health. But aren't there
metals that actually are important for your health, things like
iron and zinc.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yes, we definitely need iron, we definitely need zinc, and
so it's a question of which which are the things
that we need in our body. There's other organic minerals,
there's other trace minerals, and so one of the things
that we look for when we're evaluating somebody, is there's

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a reflex specifically for their minerals, and if that's weak,
then we need to determine is it the organic minerals,
is it the trace minerals. Is it a very specific
mineral like magnesium or zinc or iron. It just depends
upon what that makeup is of thatarticular individual and figuring

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out the specifics for them, because that's the whole purpose
of why they would be in the office.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Now, how do you get the metals and the minerals
that you need.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Various food sources like root vegetables, and I supplement for
mind daily. I take organic minerals, and I take trades minerals,
and I also take a magnesium supplement.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I take.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Calciums, and you know, whatever it is that my body
needs in order to maintain it based upon the lifestyle
and the stresses and you know the dietary concerns that
that I have. You know, supplementation is a way to
fill in the gaps or to make up for what

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you're not getting in your food.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Now, we talked about MS is one of the conditions
that can be mimiced by heavy metal toxicity. But what
are other symptoms of having heavy metal toxics.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well, they can vary, but you could have pain, you
could have numbness, you could have tingling, or other neurological
symptoms related to cognition. So when we're talking about, you know,
people with Alzheimer's, there's usually an associated aluminum toxicity associated
with that. People with dementia, there's typically some level of
heavy metals that's impacting the cognitive areas of their brain.

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And so it just becomes a question of hopefully getting
in front of it and not you know, having a
person come on their final stages and you know their
their children or their spouse or whatever now wants to try.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Something out of the box because.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
You know, the their neurology practitioner or their medical practitioner
basically says, you know, there's there's nothing you're ever going
to be able to do for that, and so when
they want to try something that's out of the box,
that's a little bit different. My thought is is, you know,
in in our current understanding, we only have one life

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to live, and you want to squeeze as much juice
out of that life as you possibly can instead of
cutting it short. Because you weren't willing to, you know,
push it to the limit and find other avenues.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I mean, it just seems like that sort of end
stage diagnosis that you get, that does seem like a
dead end that you did a lot of people do
a lot of people that come to you have hit
that kind of dead end with their medical professionals.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yes, I mean, there's there's always a fair amount of
people that have been told that there's nothing that can
be done about their condition, and you know, it's my
job not to argue with what they've been told. Is
my job to look for opportunities and look for ways that.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
We can.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Just enhance the person's life and give them back to themselves.
And you know, mentioning that that patient that was in
a wheelchair when he first came was and we got
them so he could walk around out of his wheelchair
and then his urology, it was just like he didn't
even acknowledge the fact that he was walking around on
it under his own power. He said, you have MS

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and there's nothing that you're going to do that's going
to change that. And you know, like I said, a
couple of weeks later, he was back in his wheelchair,
and he was back to being depressed and everything.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It was like, what happened to all the progress we
were making? What changed? You know?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
So, so are there precautions you couldn't take to avoid
getting heavy metals?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know, he exercised the most important rule in life,
which is pay attention, understand what the sources are for exposure,
and do what you can to avoid them, and you
could supplement to prevent their accumulation. You know, we were
talking about lead in the first section, and you know,
lead was used in paints, that was used in plumbing.

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It we used in beverage cans, it was used in ceramics,
used in cosmetics. It's found in certain toys, foods, batteries,
things like ammunition. These are all sources of where one
could get led. And you know, if you're a woman
and you're using a particular cosmetic line because you like
the way that it covers your skin or what have,

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you just really pay attention to what are those ingredients
that are in there that you're applying to yourself on
a regular basis. And it's interesting. We have a way
to test people for their personal care products and if
we find that as a weakness, I can treat it generally,
but I'm going to ask them to bring in all

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their personal care products. And it's always fascinating when a
person comes in and they've literally got a whole grocery
bag full of products that they take and that they
use on a regular basis before they leave their house
and go out into the world.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know, it's.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Funny when I talk with my wife about the fact
that shills you to get dressed up and all of that,
and she'll put on makeup and this, that and the
other thing, and I'm like, you really don't need to
wear all of that, and she's like, well, I like
to highlight my features. And I'm like, well, I can
appreciate that you're beautiful the way that you are, and

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you just need to be mindful of what it is
that you're doing to yourself. You know, if it takes
you an hour to get prepared to go out, and
then it takes you thirty minutes to prepare to go
to bed, by taking all the crap off that you
put on a few hours before, you know, and if
it makes you feel better about yourself, fine, but make
sure that.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You take a look into.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
What it is that you're using and what the potential
detriments are. There was a book that I read a
number of years ago. It's got to be at least
twenty five, maybe even thirty years ago, and the book
was called drop dead Gorgeous, and it was about the
cosmetic industry and what they put into the cosmetics and
what kind of problems that those cosmetics use. It's fascinating

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that there are so many commercials for women's cosmetics and
what is the underlying tone of those commercials. They're basically
saying that you're not good enough with who you are,
that you need to cover yourself up in order to
become quote good enough to go even.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Go out into public.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I just think it's the wrong message that we
were sending to the female population. And there are even
men who wear makeup and it's like whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I remember years and fast the
white makeup that they use for clowns and things was
full of lead, right, That's how they got the white color.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
So what other tests are you have tests in your office?
Are there other tests that can help you discover if
you have a heavy metal problem?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
There are.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
There's hair analysis, there's tissue analysis, there are different blood
tests and.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Again all those tests around.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I mean I found on my mercury toxicity, I had
a mercury level that was six and a half times
what it should be and that was from eating tuna. No,
this was back when I was in chiropractic school in
the first couple of years. When I got out of school,
I had a hair analysis done and found that my

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mercury levels were six and a half times what they
were supposed to be and at the time with tools
that I had then, it took me two and a
half years to get the mercury back down to what
is considered a normal level.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
And I've never had tuna since then.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Now, is there a difference between acute exposure and chronic
exposure to heavy metals?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Well, acute exposure differs from chronic exposure by the amount
of exposure, and acute usually means recent or short term,
whereas chronic means long term exposure and roughly higher amounts
over time.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
So how would you give him acute exposure.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Doing something like painting something in your house or garage
without proper ventilation. Ideally you should wear a mask and
have proper ventilation to help yourself. You know, when you consider.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You can always smell new paint.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
You got to ask yourself, why is it that you
can smell new paint? What's in the new paint that
allows you to smell it that eventually you don't smell
it anymore once it's dried on the wall kind of thing.
And you know, as somebody that used to paint houses
both inside and outside for a living for roughly two years.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You just need to appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
You know, we we we get exposed to things, and.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
You know we've had we've been exposed. I mean, there
was a huge train wreck in in Wellsone, Ohio some
time ago. There was the terrible events of nine to
eleven and the fire lasted for months after that, the
fires on the West Coast that we've had recently in
California where the it's not just forests they're burning, but

(29:09):
it's houses with all their plastics and metals. So what
happens when you're exposed to something like that? And is
that something that you would need to be treated for?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Well, the answer is yes. If you go to a
job that exposes you to quote a safe level every
day for twenty to forty years, can you see that becoming.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
A problem that would stop being safe.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, when I worked at radiology at Lawrence Hospital in
the you know, Westchester County in New York, we had
to wear a badge that helped us understand how much
radiation we were being exposed to just simply by working
in the department. And so you had to turn your
badge in every month, and in the badge was some

(29:53):
X ray film and they would develop the film just
to see if it was you know, quote, I don't
know what was considered acceptable, but at the end of
the day, at least they were trying to take the precaution.
But you know, you need to understand that if you're
being exposed to something and it's it's fascinating. I remember

(30:15):
there was a shopping mall where I used to go
roller skating growing up as a kid, when I was
in high school, and they ultimately the dry cleaner in
the shopping mall area wasn't disposing of the dry cleaning
solutions properly and it got into the ground and they
eventually had to shut the whole mall down and plow
it under, and you know, they left that land barren

(30:38):
for about twenty years. They built another shopping mall on it,
and I'm just like, do they think everybody has short
term memory? Or maybe enough people have moved out and
new people have moved in that they don't know what
the story of the land is. But when I drive
by that place periodically, I just look at it and
shake my head and it's just like, I don't know
that they did anything to remove what was, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Deposited into the soil.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
And I'm sure that if they, you know, they if
they don't, you know, a lot of places up in
that area, they don't have municipal water. Everybody has wells,
and so it's like, okay, well if even so, it's like,
are people being exposed to something from twenty thirty years
ago that they're not even aware of?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, and I guess getting that kind of exposure and
then you have the problem that it's in your body.
So how do you how do you actually get to
excrete that? I mean, it's that a difficult process to
excrete the heavy metals.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Well, it's hard if you do nothing, and that results
in neurological issues. If you do the right thing, it
isn't hard at all, but you need to get the
correct treatment for you specifically while making changes in your
lifestyle and by identifying the specific heavy metals that you
have issues with and then giving you the right remedy
in order to do it.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
After we get your.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Body to acknowledge the specific heavy metal through a treatment,
then the body can just go do what it's supposed
to do and it doesn't need to be a problem anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I would think that with your testing thirty heavy metals
that there could be multiple heavy metals that a person
would be having. Is there a combination where that the
heavy metals together actually make the problem more severe? Oh?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, that's you know, when you.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Have multiple heavy metals of different types, whether it's aluminum,
whether it's mercury, copper, lead, cadmium, caesium, arsenic, whatever the
case happens to be, the more that you have, the
more the nervous system has to figure out how to
deal with it. The more complex the problem becomes, and

(32:46):
then the harder it is in order to deal with it.
And so what we do is we deal with one
heavy metal at a time, and then we just try
to make people aware of where these different sources come from.
Each heavy metal comes with a list of all the
different potential sources, and so I try to make people
aware of what those sources are so that they can

(33:07):
then make adjustments in what's going on in their life
to stop the infiltration of the heavy metal while we're
trying to clean it out.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, where do I mean? I know we've talked
about the fact that people obesity. Is one of the
things that obesity does, is it kind of protects the
layers of fat actually protect you from the harmful substances.
Is something similar happening with heavy metals or do they
hide out in your body in different places?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, they get deposited in different places within the body,
and the nervous system is one of those places.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And so what you.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Need to appreciate is that if a person is exposed
to them, even at a low rate of exposure, but
if it's continuous exposure, like I said, if you're working
at a job for twenty to forty years where you're
being exposed to it. That gentleman I mentioned in the
first segment that was told to the ad MS he

(34:05):
actually worked for a newspaper plant and part of his
was quality control, So he was pulling newspapers out of
the little conveyor belt where they were producing the newspapers.
He would just randomly pull one out and he would
lick his finger and then touch the page to turn

(34:26):
the page, and then lick his finger again to touch
the page to turn the page. And this is a
brand new has it needs and fully set up and
dried newspaper. It's literally hot off the presses, and he's
touching it, putting it to his mouth, touching it again,
putting it to his mouth. And God knows how many
times he did that, and God knows for how many

(34:48):
years he did that, but that was one of the
ways that he was probably exposed. And so again, it's
my job is to shine a light on what it
is that.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You're possibly doing.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
After we've determine what the what the problem is and
what we have to do to remedy it, and then
we talk about lifestyle changes.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Is that whole thing of steering people away from the
habit or the behavior that they're doing, this keeps adding
to the problem. Correct, Well, this is really fascinating, Doc Rick.
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Speaker 1 (36:17):
So one of the things that might be putting metals
into your body is sometimes metals are being used for
health purposes. I mean there are things like gold teeth.
There are somebody that fractures a bone that needs a
compound fracture that might need screws to hold the bones
in place. How do those affect you in terms of

(36:39):
this toxicity.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Is you, Well, it's interesting. I mean you mentioned gold
and putting them in for somebody's teeth. I'm going to
tell you that it's a very expensive solution.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
It's certainly not ideal.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Is gold is very It's a very soft metal and
would create issues due to how soft it is bones
that break that they use titanium based screws. Hopefully they
don't leach into the blood, and it's still not ideal
for some people. Titanium is used for knee and shoulder

(37:14):
and hip replacements. Those two can sometimes create a problem
with titanium that I need to treat someone sometimes for
those who have had joint replacement with titanium.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
So it.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Just depends on what the person's individual situation is. I
remember as totally not related to our discussion at all,
but I remember there was a young woman who came
into my office who had silicone breasting plants put it,
and then she developed all sorts of connective tissue type symptoms.

(37:55):
And I had a little tester specifically for silicont implant,
and it indicated that there was a problem with her
left implant, and so she went back to the guy
that put them in and the guy said, there's absolutely
no correlation whatsoever with that that could never happen. But

(38:16):
then he decided to remove them free of charge.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
What did he discover.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
It's not even what he discovered, it's the fact that
he said that there's absolutely no way that the implants
that he put in could be creating a problem that
she's experiencing, and he volunteered to remove them.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Free of charge.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
So it's like, Okay, maybe he's doing the right thing,
Maybe he cares more about his patient than he cares
about his profit line. But at the end of the day,
if it cost her something like ten grand to get
the breast implants, I would imagine that it would cost
at least ten grand to get him removed.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, I would think that. Yeah, major surgery.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
So it's like, okay, and the nice part is is
that once she had them removed, she didn't have the
problem anymore, So.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It solved the problem.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
So there's these relationships between the things that we do
and put into our bodies oftentimes will create some of
these problems.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Well, I mean, you get a thing called synergistic toxicity
is a toxic response to two or more chemicals that
is greater than the sum of the toxic effects of
each chemical alone. And so you know when we talked
about in the last segment, you know what happens if
you have multiple heavy metals that are creating a toxicity problem.
You create this synergistic toxicity which basically combines the effect

(39:46):
as almost like a multiplier.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah. No, with all this, are there medical ways to
get rid of heavy metals from your body?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'm sure there are, But again, taking drugs is problematic
for the body, so we don't want to remove one
toxicity and replace it with a different one. I don't
really pay attention to what medicine does because I don't
have that as a practice, and I don't have that
as under falls underneath my license in what it is

(40:17):
that I do. I'm sure medicine has a pharmacological solution
to just about everything, because they're constantly developing, you know,
pharmaceuticals for everything under the sun and then some, but
I wouldn't necessarily know how they work. I do know
that there are keylating agents which bind to heavy metals

(40:39):
in the body, allowing them to be excreted through the urine.
The specific medication used depends on the type of heavy
metal involved, with common examples including lead, mercury, arsenic, and copper.
But like any medication, they come with side effects, and
these medications can have side effects like nausea, vomiting, fever,

(41:03):
and in severe cation depletion of essential minerals due to
their ability to bind not only to the heavy metals
but also to necessary trace elements within the body.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
M Now, keulation, you mentioned that what is keulation is
that like.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Dialysis, not exactly it's it's it's it's using. What they
do is is they hook you up to what's like
an ivy and it gets into your bloodstream and it
circulates around and it binds to the heavy metals in
the body again allowing them to be excreted through the urine.

(41:42):
And so it just it depends on the avenue that
is being promoted. I remember there was a chiropractor who
hired a medical doctor to do keulation in his office,
and so he was making anywhere from five to seven grand.
Each patient had to pay cash and had to make

(42:04):
a decision while they were sitting in the office about
what they were going to do. And the medical doctor
just basically sat in a room by himself reading whatever
it is that he was choosing to read the day
that I went to see the whole operation, he was
reading a newspaper. But when the chiropractor needed you the

(42:24):
permission to do the procedure and the hooking people up
to the IVS, and he had like twenty chairs in
this particular office, and everybody was there, you know, getting
along with everybody else that was there because they were
all having the same treatment and it was all done
by iv and the medical doctor was just basically signing
off on the orders in which to have it done.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
That was his job.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
And if they're making five to seven grand each patient,
and they got to come for a number of treatments,
and then the sad part was down the road. Some
of those patients who paid all that money came to
my office county away, two counties away, and you know,
it's it's it's just interesting to see what people do

(43:09):
and how it works or how it doesn't work. And
you know, not to toot my own horn, but at
the end of the day, when I heard the stories
of what people have gone through in order to solve
the problem that they've been told that they have, even
after they've done the treatment, they still have some level
of indication that the problem is still there, and so

(43:32):
then ultimately my job is to get rid of it
once and for all, and we do that using natural
methods as opposed to one natural methods.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Well, speaking of natural methods, can you like sweat it out?
Can you? Can you get them out by going for
intense workouts where you're risaunas things like that.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
You can certainly try to do that, but most of
these things are too heavy in order for the body
to excrete.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
And so.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
You know, you can attempt to do all of those things,
and so natural solutions for heavy metal toxicity are things
like cilantro, garlic, chlorella, spillina, milk thistle, turmeric, foods that
are rich in sulfur like broccoli and cauliflower, vitamin sea

(44:22):
rich foods, fiber rich foods. While these may help with
the detoxification, it's crucial to consult with a practitioner such
as myself when you're attempting to do any kind of
heavy metal detox as some of these can have side
effects that may not be effective for significant exposure, and

(44:42):
proper testing is necessary to determine the level of heavy
metals within your body.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
So how long does it take for you to get
rid of the heavy metals that they've gotten into your body.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
That honestly depends on what the concentration levels are and
if your body recognizes the heavy metals. And in my office,
the first thing we do when we're treating a body
for heavy metals is we get the immune system and
the nervous system, then the teric nervous system to understand
that this is something that doesn't belong and now we
need to set in motion the healing properties ability for

(45:16):
the body to then go at remedying it and then
by supporting it with the proper nutrition. The nutrition that
we use actually binds the heavy metal and creates a
secondary product that now the body can excrete. So it's
like a taxicab picking up a passenger. The passenger is
the heavy metal, the taxicab is the removal product that

(45:38):
we use, and then it's just a question of sending
in enough calves to pick up all the passengers to
get them out of the body.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Now, you mentioned some foods that you can use to
help with process, but those won't necessarily be enough and
can any of those foods you inventioned? I think broccoli
you talked about out some other foods that you said
that could be helpful for that. Can the problems result

(46:08):
from that? Is you know self self elimination.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Well, at the end of the day, you want to
make sure that the products that you're using don't don't
do it without some kind of supervision or some level
of support by an expert that knows what it is
that they're doing. I want to be the expert that
helps you understand what it is that you're doing. I
want to be the expert that actually is going to look.
You know, I have patients all the time where they're

(46:34):
just like, well, I'll ask my medical doctor about that,
and the medical doctor will say, that's not a problem
that we have here in the States, And I'm like, well,
that's just plain ignorance. And if the person's not ready,
that's fine. If the person wants to follow their medical
doctor's advice, that's fine too. But if you find out
that the advice that you're following isn't making the change

(46:54):
that you want to see within your own health, okay,
then you may want to quote circle back to my
office and then let's take the time to address it fully.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
So okay, And if there are foods that are helpful,
But what about foods that you should avoid? What kind
of foods might you want to avoid to eliminate the
problem of getting more heavy metals in your body?

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Well, you may want to consider root vegetables, seafood, organ meats,
some baby foods. Can you imagine creating heavy metal poisoning
and your newborn from the formulas that you're buying and
being sold?

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Holy really that's unbelievable. Yes, not right, So you're actually
saying that in baby formulas there may be heavy metals
that you're feeding to your infant child.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
It is possible.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Wow, Okay, lifestyle changes? Are there lifestyle changes that you
might want to consider if you have a heavy metal issue?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Oh? Yeah, you want to figure out where the heavy
metals are coming from. And that's certainly something that I
can help you to understand. And once we understand that,
then okay, what kind of changes do we need to make?
And my thought is anything that will eliminate the exposure
to those heavy metals. And there are some things that

(48:13):
you can't avoid.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
You know, when you.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Look outside and you see those planes that are flying
from one side of the sky to the next side
of the sky, and they got that white line that
goes across the sky. Those are called chemtrails and keem
trails are you know, a huge problem that hopefully will
be finally fully exposed with the current regime that's in

(48:38):
place and the investigations into all these different departments, and
hopefully Bobby Kennedy will expose that.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
More and look into it. And but we.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Need to appreciate the fact that when you see those
white lines that go across the sky for the whole
day and then they don't happen again for another couple
of weeks, it's like, Okay, well, what's going on there.
They're releasing chemicals into the air that eventually find their
way to the ground, and you know, we're exposed to
it and it ultimately creates issues.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
It seems to me that I recall we did a
show on parasites, and as I recall, you said that
part of the problem with parasites is that they actually
feed off the heavy.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Metals they do, and so if you are resonating, if
you have too many heavy metals in your system, that
changes the energetic frequency that you vibrate at, and that
vibrational frequency is picked up like an antenna like tuning
into you as a radio station by different parasites, and
so those parasites will be attracted to you, and if
they get in, they now found a food source, which

(49:46):
is the heavy metals, which will help you in one regard,
but it's going to hurt you in another regard. So
we need to get rid of the parasites. But we
also check for heavy metals in addition to the parasites
because there's usually a relationship there.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
So is the protocol for getting rid of the heavy
metals the same as getting rid of the parasites.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
The treatment itself is the same. The protocol is different
because you need a different supplement for parasites than you
do for heavy metals, and you need a specific supplement
for some heavy metals versus different supplements for other heavy metals.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
So once again we're dealing with the situation where it's
not one size fits all. It has to be really
determined based on what specifically is going on with each person.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Right within the individual, and so it's not a one
size fits all. But you know, we can successfully figure
out for you as an individual what your one size
is and we'll make sure that we you know, I'm
very big into details, I'm very big into finding true solutions,
and I'm very big in following it all the way

(50:52):
through and to the end. And then it's just a
question of does the patient want to invest that much
in themselves? Do they have any questions or concerns about
what it is that we're doing. And I give them
the opportunity to ask all their questions, and if they're ready,
they do the work. If they're not ready, then they
go away until they're ready to do the work. And

(51:14):
that's a them problem, that's not a me problem.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Well, speaking of people that may have questions, if they
have specific questions for themselves, maybe they're suspicious that they
might have a heavy metal problem, maybe they have some
other health concern, whatever that health concern might be, What
are the best ways to reach out to you and
get those questions asked and see what kind of answers
you might have for them.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Well, the best way would be to call my cell
phone directly, which is area code eight four five five
six one two two two five again eight four five
five six one two two two five. That is my
personal cell phone. If I don't answer the phone, please
leave me a message.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I will call you back.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
You can email me directly at doc Rick at spineboy
dot com Docris at spineboy dot com. I'm looking at
my email pretty much all day every day, so if
you send me an email, I will get back to you.
The newest thing that I've become overburdened by, which I
really don't appreciate, is when people just text me out

(52:16):
of the blue. I don't know who they are. I
don't recognize the phone number, They're not in my phone
under their name. But that's how you know people communicate nowadays,
I just would prefer if you're going to take the
time to text me, that you call me initially so
that I can put you in my phone so that
when I get a text from you, I know who

(52:36):
I'm talking to and I'm more than happy to answer
your questions. And then ultimately the best way would be
to stop into my office where at one thirty eight
Canal Street in Pooler Park. We're in sweet four zero
four of building four hundred. It's the second building on
the left when you come into the parking lot, where
the first office on your right when you walk into

(52:57):
the building, but coming in to see me, give you
a face to face opportunity to ask me your questions,
and out of the curiosity that I have in my
genuineness of wanting to help people, I'll probably do a
brief evaluation just to answer my own questions, and then
I'll even explain it to you in terms of what
we're doing. But at the end of the day, the
balls in your court. This show is called When Your

(53:19):
Health Matters. You get to decide when your health is
a priority, and my hope is it's always a priority.
But if you're not getting the answers to your health
related questions or your health related conditions, please consider giving
me an opportunity, because I will change your problem and
I will change your life, and I would look forward
to the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Well, thanks, doc, we're out of time for today's show,
and thank you again, and I'm looking forward to what
we're going to talk about next week.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah, so thank you for the listener. Tune back in
next week, same health time, same health station. This is
doctor Richard Untune from Advanced Alternative Medicine Center saying, I
look forward to supporting you when you're health.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
He said, you're definitely ill. Then to the nurse, I've
seen worse. So the doctor just gave me a pill.
Take one of those three times a day. Don't never
stop until.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
You're nearly dead er almost better keep out of the
reach of children. The things that might be some side
effects you neither probably will well limit of fact.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Just come back and.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I'll give you another film. On top of that, on
top of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that. And then
he showed me his bill. I pupped another pillar head
out of the headache has become a pain in the butt.
What was just an itchy finger now is a swollen foot.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Doctor ripeing out of breath.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
And I've never walked up a hill, avoid or die
for exercise.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I rather give you a pill.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
The fingers on my