Episode 136: Stay Healthy

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, you're definitely ill. Sand to the nurse. I've
seen worse than the doctor. Just gave me a pill.
Take one of those three times today. You don't never
stop on till you're dearly dead er all with better
keep out of the reach of children by the things
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you another film. On top of that, on top of that,

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on top of that, on top of that, on top of.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
That, on top of that, and then he showed me
his bill.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years to support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for

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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from Doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every

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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
You are listening to the Alternative health Care Network.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Huntun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health advocate, Mark saban So, Doc.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Last week we had a lively discussion about health opinions
and today I thought I'd turn that conversation even further
in the direction of getting people healthy to how do
you actually stay healthy? What are the foundations for good health?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, it's what we learned growing up as a child.
We learn that we need to have proper food, proper water,
proper exercise, proper breathing, proper sleeping. We need to have
good relationships with all in your life, and it comes
with consistency over time, especially if you are starting with
a health issue, it's going to be getting on the

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path of what's going to get you to be healthy.
And then once you restore your health to a level
that you're happy with, then you're going to have to
make adjustments in terms of what you do on a
daily basis to help maintain that health and create habits
so that you can just stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
So you really can just stay healthy. You can avoid
getting sick in the first place.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, you can avoid getting sick. I do, and many
of my patients do. And it's how we were designed.
We weren't meant to be sick. And sickness is an
outcome of making wrong decisions regarding your health and not
giving it the level of importance that it is, making
your health for granted, and neglecting it to the point

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where you ultimately end up having a health issue.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, what about congenital issues that somebody might have, something
that they've inherited or that they were born with.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, you want to support them to live the healthy
life meant for them, support their highest health outcome. It's
okay to have a congenital illness. You know, you have
people that are born without fingers, without toes, maybe they're
missing a leg, or maybe they don't have other aspects.
You know. I've had people in my office that they

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had a particular organ or gland that didn't develop properly
and they have you know, so support them based upon
their specific circumstance in an effort to create the highest
level of normal function in the body so that they
can just not be quote handicapped by their condition.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So, actually, there are ways that you support the individual,
which I guess is part of how you work with
people to stay healthy is to deal with that individuals
as a person.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
They are, right, I treat them the way that they
should be treated, based beyond the way if I was
in their circumstances. This is the kind of treatment that
I would want for myself. And so yeah, I try
to implement and apply the Golden rule to treat others
the way you want to be treated.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now, one of the things I wonder is, you know,
we live in a temporary existence. All of us have
a body, and all of our bodies are going to
eventually give out one way. So is death the enemy? Here?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Death the enemy? No, it's a stage that goes with
physical life, but not spiritual life. Spirit is eternal, So
death is the ending of the functioning of the physical body.
So when we think of death, we think of us,
you know, the spirit that animates us leaving the physical

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body that we have, and then the body no longer
being animated and living. And so the fact that we
are eternal beings and we have temporary lives in terms
of how we choose to incarnate. When the physical body
wears out and comes to an end or grows a

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disease and succumbs to that disease, yeah, there is the
physical death. But no, death isn't an enemy. It's it's
a process along the continuum of you know, a tree
grows from a seed eventually matures to create its own seeds,

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and that seed falls from the mother tree down to
the ground and you know, grows into its own tree
and produces its own seeds and that's just the cycle
of life. So you know, when eggcorn falls off of
a tree, hopefully it gets into some fertile soil and
then it can grow up into the type of parent

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tree that it's meant to grow up into.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, if it's not the enemy, would you say that
death is a great equalizer? Certainly, from the standpoint of
our human differences, whether some people are wealthy, some people
are poor, some people live here, some people live there,
but all of us sort of have that same exit.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, well, the finality is that we leave our body,
and so equalizer. Yeah, I guess you could call it
that we all die, but we all don't die the
same way. But we do have a soul that is eternal,
and the physical body has its limitations based upon how
we treat it. And so yeah, death of the physical
body is an equalizer because we're all eventually gonna succumb

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to that.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
We're all going to come to that. Well, I mean,
medicine really tries to extend life as long as possible,
but that doesn't necessarily take into account the changes in
quality of life.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right, and so medicine can extend somebody's life, and sometimes
it does, and it's offered to someone who has faith
in that form of care. It can actually work quite well.
And at the end of the day, we don't want
it to interfere with the person's quality of life. It

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may impact their quantity how long they end up living,
but we would like everybody to live is with the
highest quality of life. That they possibly can, and sometimes
that's not possible.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, yeah, I guess that how do you balance that
quality of life with longevity?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, focused on quality and the longevity will take care
of itself.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Okay, So I mean I would think most people want
to have a long life. You certainly see there are
those people who die young that especially in the celebrity world.
You know, famous musicians and actors and people who've died
at a young age. And it's sort of in our
minds as the people that are still their survivors. They

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freeze in time where we see other of our celebrities
and famous people as we watch them age and maybe
they last to you know, one hundred years or something
like that, and we see the consequences of aging. We
only remember them in those last moments. It's a kind
of a curious thing, right.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
So people do want to have a long life, and
some do and some don't. Hopefully most do, but some don't.
And it's an individual thing and it's totally personal. And
you know, if we look at we're all extensions of
God and we're here to understand who we are as
a spirit by incarnating as a physical body, and maybe

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the particular time that we're here and as an incarnated being,
we want to experience ourselves in a particular way, and
we grow up and we experience ourselves as that particular way,
and it's kind of its course. And then maybe the
person's like, all right, well, I accomplish my goal. I
don't need to be here anymore. I'll go back to

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the drawing board and then figure out what's next for me.
Whereas there are some people who have different stages of
their life and they accomplish the goal for that particular stage,
but they stay in their body and they continue to
go on to different phases of their life and they
accomplish different things based upon the phase that they're in.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
So, from a healthcare perspective, how do you ensure that
you have a long life? What do you do on
that path?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Practice being proactive with your life and live your life
with intention to that end. And so I don't worry
about getting sick. I am hyper vigilant with taking my supplements.
I am mindful of what it is that I eat.
When I go to the grocery store, I make an

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active effort to just stay in the fruits and vegetable portion,
where the nuts are, where the bakery is, and I
typically pick from that area. I don't spend a lot
of time going up and down the aisles because there's
nothing up and down the aisles that I'm interested in

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getting as far as what I'm going to eat for food.
That doesn't mean that I don't go to where the
olive oil is and buy extra virgin olive oil. That
doesn't mean that I don't go to the refrigerated area
and get cheeses and get eggs and those kinds of things,
because I do go get those kinds of things. But
the primary staple in my diet is fruits and vegetables

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and nuts and seeds.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Now you're if you're looking to have more life, more
years to your life as well as more life to
your years.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's the ideal. That's what everybody would like. They would
like to live a long life, but they would like
to live a life that they can still part anticipate
in and not somebody that's sitting in a wheelchair, pointed
out a window and left alone, and that's what their
last years of existence are. I have a good patient
friend of mine who I appreciate immensely, and last Thanksgiving,

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just before Thanksgiving, I saw something and I asked him
how he was doing, and his response was to send
me a picture of his mom blowing out the birthday
candle on her one hundred and first birthday cake. Nice,
And he said, I'm great. Why because his mom lived
to be one hundred and one and she's still going strong. Now.
She has her own health issues. She's got Alzheimer's. She

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doesn't even recognize her son or know who her son is.
And he's okay with that simply because she's being well
taken care of and she's happy. She doesn't remember anything
from moment to moment, but she doesn't necessarily need to
remember anything from moment to moment as long as she's
happy in the moment.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Art Illness is just a consequence of having a body
and living in a time when you have a limited duration.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well and all this is the result of poor choices,
primarily poor food choices from the crap foods that were
being fed. And so when you put crap gas in
your car, your car is going to run like crap
and it's going to have consequential changes that occur as
a result of that crap gas. Well, the same is
for your body. If you put substandard food, if you

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put crap food, if you put depleted nutritional food into
your body in an effort to neutrify the body, the
body is going to have to adapt to the deficiency
and what it's getting, and that's ultimately what develops into
the disease. All disease mark all disease is nutritional deficiency.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So the fact that you're not getting the nourishment you
need is one of the things that leads to your
body wearing out right.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
And so the Food and Drug Administration emphasis on drug
of the FDA, they're no longer interested in producing real food.
It's all genetically modified and they've, Bastard said, in a
way to where it can withstand all the harsh chemicals
that they spray on that food and an effort to
be pest free. So they have these pesticides and they've

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got these herbicides, et cetera, and they genetically modified the
seeds in an effort to resist any kind of disease
from developing and all that and it's all. It all
looks great in the store, but your body doesn't respond
to it the same way that it does with nature
food because it's no longer nature.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
But it sounds like it sounds like being healthy is
an uphill battle.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, it can be if you allow your health to
deteriorate to the point where now it is an uphill battle.
I don't see taking care of my health as being
an uphill battle at all. Why because I just simply
maintain where I'm at because I don't have any issues,
and I maintain it so that I'm not going to
have any issues. And if I do have an issue,
and there are times where I do. I had a
bike accident where I trashed my right shoulder where it

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wasn't the same for the better part of a year,
but I rehabilitated it and I threw a football the
other day fifty yards, So it's fully back to where
it needs to be. It's just a matter of time,
and it's a matter of putting in the right effort.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
So I mean, yeah, I think that one of the
consequences of just being alive and living through the various
things that happened like a bike accident or something like
that that might happen to you, they were constantly challenged
to be able to provide our health and all the
things you're talking about with the diminishment of the food,

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and the way that we're approaching our lives and the
fact that we spend our lives in these various ways,
driving in cars and things like that where we're not
necessarily getting the exercise we need, or where they're all
the chemicals. We were talking a few weeks ago about
the chemicals and things like that in the air. So
you're being exposed to all these things that make it
a challenge. And I guess that's why I'm talking about
this idea that it's an uphill battle to be able

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to keep your health because you have to be very
mindful about what you're doing all the time.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, but that reiterates the point that I just made
and the fact that I don't see is what I
do to maintain my health as being an uphill battle.
It's a maintenance battle. But it's maintenance because I'm just
maintaining where I'm at. But you have to get there
to begin with, and so initially it is going to
be an uphill battle. And that's why I want to
have the opportunity to sit with you and educate you

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and work with you and support you so that you
can climb that hill and get back to a place
of even keel, to where now it's just about health
maintenance and where you're doing all the right things, you know,
and you're living your life in a healthy way, and
you're reaping the rewards of living your life in a
healthy way by experiencing high quality health, to where you're

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not worried about getting old, because getting old is just
a matter of age and time. It's not a matter
of your health deteriorating, which is what the healthcare industry
will naturally make you believe and feel that you you're
going to get old and you should expect to accumulate
these problems. I remember a number of years ago, I

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had this wonderful patient who came to me for her
own health care, but she still used a neurologist to
monitor a particular health and balance that she had. And
so her neurologist was retiring, and that was her primary
care physician. So she wanted to be proactive and she
wanted to go interview a new primary care physician. And

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so she went in and she filled out all the forms,
and she handed the forums back up to the front
desk people, and they said that she forgot to fill
out a form and she was like, well, really, which
form did I forget? What medications are you on? She's like, well,
I'm not on any medication. And here's a sixty year
old woman, and there everybody that works in the office

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who was younger than she was, was flabbergasted over the
fact that she's sixty years old and she's not on
cholesterol medication, she's not on blood pressure medication, she's not
on diabetes medication. And she said to the staff, she
was like, why would I need to take any of
those medications. I don't have any of those problems. And

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the staff tried to make her feel wrong for not
needing any of those medications. And it's like, okay, So
when we believe that it's normal to be on lifetime medication,
we've lost sight of and we've become insane in the
way that we think of what health is. Okay, I

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don't see myself. I know I am an outlier because
I don't have any health issues and I don't take
any medications, and I don't feel my body deteriorating, even
though I'm going to be sixty soon. I don't see
me getting older as being a problem. Where I know
lots of people who dread getting older because they know

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in their mind their belief system that's the key to it.
Their belief system believes that they're going to have everything
that their medical doctor tells them. As they continue to age.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Their health is going to decline, and that just.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It doesn't have to be that way, but you have
to adopt a new belief system so that you're not
setting yourself up to have all these issues as you
continue to age.

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Speaker 1 (19:16):
So we're talking a lot about staying healthy. But there
are things that are out there in the world that
we're facing that can lead somebody to getting sick. Things
like mosquitoes and ticks that spread various diseases. So how
do you avoid those diseases that you might get from
something like a tick bike.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, here's the truth of it. If you stay healthy
and you feed your immune system and healthy food, and
the bugs will leave you alone.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
They'll leave you alone.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
They'll leave you alone. How is that, Well, the bugs
are looking for opportunists and opportunities to further their own lives.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Well, wouldn't you be the person they take advantage of?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Not necessarily, because if I have a good, strong, healthy
immune system, then they're going to be repelled from that good, healthy,
strong immune system because it's like, I don't know, having
a force field around you that doesn't allow anything to
penetrate it. Okay, Now, if you have a weakened system
and you don't have a strong force field, and you
don't even have a strong resistance, which is an easier

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job going after one that has a big, huge security
system or one that just leaves the front door wide open.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So you mean, it's like like in the savannah when
the leopard is hunting, it looks for the.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Week looking for the weak link. Why because that's an
easy kill. It's going to offend the herding. The ones
that are healthy, it can't take them down, so why
would it even go after it. The same thing with
your immune system. Your immune system, if it's strong and healthy,
repels disease. If it's weak, then it invites disease. And
it's just nature's way of balancing things out. I think

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I mentioned this before several shows ago, but there was
a movie out with Brad Pitt called World War Z
and it was taking over of the zombies and what
brad Pitt and his crew who were running around trying
to avoid the zombies, they went to a hospital because
they figured that they could get whatever they would need
to keep themselves healthy. And what they found in the

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hospital were a whole bunch of zombies that were going
after all the sick people. And they walked right past
brad Pitt and his crew because they were healthy. And
that's when brad Pitt's character realized the fact that they're
not looking for us, they're looking for sick people. So
what were the zombies doing. They were doing what nature does.
It was getting rid of the problem by digesting the

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problem and not allowing the problem to occur. And so
that's what happens. You know, people don't necessarily like vultures.
They think they're ugly birds, etc. But vultures serve a
very powerful form. They're the cleanup crew when there's a
dead animal. You see turkey vultures on the side of
the street doing what they're cleaning up the dead carcass

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so that it doesn't become disease infested and spread disease.
They can stick their head in a carcass and they
can eat it. They don't get blood on but if
they do, it's just a little bit of rain and
the blood's gone, whereas if they had a head full
of feathers, then that would be different. So they've conformed,
they've adapted, they've evolved in such a way that they are.

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The immune system of a vulture is so strong that
any disease that's growing in the flesh that they're eating
isn't going to impact them at all because they've adapted
to having a really, really good strong immune system.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
M hm. So if that's the case, I mean, can
you avoid these types of diseases that you're talking about?
I mean, are you going to be able to walk
through the woods where there's you know, do you see
the signs up there there's tick warnings and things like that.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Right, Well, that's the thing. It's interesting because then I've
shared this story before as well, and but it's appropriate
for what you're asking. My buddy Harry, the gentleman that
owns the building that I practice in. He and I
we've done some great adventures. I've spent about six weeks
with him in a tent as we've traveled around the
world and done some very excellent adventures. But when we're

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not traveling around the world doing excellent adventures, we used
to go hiking in the Hudson Valley, and the Hudson
Valley is the haven for lime disease, and so we
would go hiking and I would know the trails, so
he would follow behind me, and when we would get
done hiking, we go back to the car and we
check each other for ticks, and he would be covered
in ticks and I wouldn't be. And he's trying to

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solve that question for himself, why do I have all
the ticks? And he doesn't. Well, maybe because he led.
He woke them up and I followed and they all
jumped on me. So next time, now that he knows
the trails, he's like, well, let me lead and you follow.
And we get back to the car and he's still
covered with ticks and I'm not. And he's trying to
figure out why, and I'm like, well, you resonate a

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frequency that they're attracted to, whereas I don't. If I'm healthy,
they're not going to waste their time trying to get
involved with me. But if you're a little bit unhealthy,
He's like, why I eat healthy and I do this
And I'm like, yeah, and for the most part, I'm
sure you do. But you also used to do some
other interesting things in your life and abuse yourself in

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particular ways with alcohols and other curricular activities, And what
do you think that does to your ability to have resistance?
You know people who take I'm not saying applying this
to him. But people who take drugs, people who drink alcohol,
people who don't get enough sleep, people who do all
these things that run their bodies down. Now they're prone

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to sickness.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
It reminds me of you know, being in college and
you would stay healthy all the way up through finals
and you're pressing yourself so hard, you know, and you
can stay up and you're pulling all nighters and you're
doing all that kind of stuff, and then you finally
get through finals week it's now going to be the
break and you collapse in sickness.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right Why because your body kept it at baas Like
the mother who takes care of the family, she helps
nurse the family back to health and then once everybody's better,
then she goes and she recovers from her own. But
she had to keep it all together in order to
take care of her family because that's her motivation.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
So with these kind of contracting, these kind of insect
born diseases, I mean, there are things like malaria which
seem to plague vast amounts of the population if you
go into those areas.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
If you go into those areas, so.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
What do you do to either prevent that or if
you end up contracting something like that, like lime disease.
Can I come and see you and actually get help
with recovering.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I enjoy helping people with lime. I enjoy people help
get over their lime. I enjoy helping people recover from
whatever lime they have. I enjoy helping people who have
been given the term chronic lime actually get their life back.
But when you're dealing with somebody with chronic lime, they've
bought into the diagnosis. They've bought into the diagnosis, mean

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they've gone into agreement with having the diagnosis. They actually
become chronic lime disease. And since they identify with it,
there's a part of them that doesn't want to let
go of it because that's become their identity, and they've
become the victim of their condition. And those people you
can't help because they don't want help, They don't want

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to get better. Their story is that they are lime disease,
and that's sad. But for people who do want to
get help, for people who are willing to reach into
their pocket and pull out their hard earned dollars and
give them to me in order for me to help
them get better. I enjoy helping those people get better
because they're motivated to get better. And I have a

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methodology in which I get the body to acknowledge the
lime and then send the immune system out after the
lime and get rid of all the places that the
lime can hide, and then the body gets rid of
the line.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
So though that's people do tend to identify themselves and
they take on ownership in those various ways that I'm
a victim of cancer, or I have cancer, or you
have a different way of looking at that and framing
that for people so that you can actually address a

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condition without owning it as your identity.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, don't ever own it. Don't ever say my cancer,
my lime disease, my diabetes, my heart disease, my autoimmune disease.
Don't put my in front of it. Make it a
temporary thing. Because what you tell your brain, what you
tell your subconscious is what's going to cause the body
to produce its outcome. Your body is controlled by your

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unconscious mind. So whatever you're feeding your unconscious mind or
reinforcing your unconscious mind claiming a disease by saying my cancer,
my heart disease, my diabetes, you're taking ownership of it.
Why would you want to own something that you don't want.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, how do you shift that? I mean, if that,
if that is the way your psyche tends to adjust
to these things, how do you shift that? If I
come to you and say I have I have cancer
MTUs say that example, and part of what you're telling
me is that I need to sort of shift that.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Is it a permanent condition? Are you going to die
from it? Or is it a temporary condition that your
body created that you're going to figure out how to
uncreate it and go about your life.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, I'm hoping it's the ladder, but I'm afraid that
it's the former.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, you can't let fear guide you. Fear isn't rational.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
So how do I shift the fear? Uh?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
You stop feeding it, Feed yourself, hope, feed your house,
feed your your belief system, the opportunity that I am
going to overcome this. I am going to move beyond.
I had a friend of mine, this actually was a
very very good friend of my parents for a long time,
who came down with testicular cancer. And so later on

(29:11):
when he came to me, because he went through the chemo,
he had one of his testicles removed, and he went
through the chemo and the radiation and all that, and
the consequence of that was he developed kidney disease. And
so he came to me some fifteen twenty years later
with kidney disease and he wanted my help with it.
So one of the things that I asked when I
was in the office with him, I said, Jim, tell

(29:33):
me about your diagnosis of testicular cancer. Tell me what
that was like. He said, well, I went in, they
did some tests. I went in. We knew it wasn't
going to be good because we're meeting with an oncologist, okay,
but we needed to understand what was going to go
on and what the process was going to be. And
so his doctor said, I've got bad news for you,

(29:53):
and I've got good news for you. And so Jim
was like, still give me the bad news. And he says,
you have testicular cancer and we're going to need to
remove that testicle from your life, et cetera. And then
we're going to have to do some other things to
follow up to make sure that it doesn't spread, and this,
that and the other thing, and you're going to be fine.

(30:19):
And that was the part of the sentence that Jim
really focused on and you're going to be fine. And
he said, with the help of my wife, who is
the strongest person that I know, and with the belief
that I trusted my doctrine, I believed that I was
going to be fine. I knew I was going to
be fine. I didn't question it. I knew it. And
that's the difference between thinking about something versus knowing something.

(30:43):
Thinking takes a place, takes place above your eyes. Knowing
something comes from the center of your core of your being,
which is where spirit is. When you know something by heart,
do you think about it? You don't have to, right,
But when you think about something now you're trying to reconcile.
Is it correct? Is it not correct? Is it this much?

(31:03):
Is it that much? Am I doing the right thing?
Am I not doing the right thing? Should I be
doing more of this? Should I do less of this?
Should I get helped to deal with this? You got
all these questions, okay? And that part of your existence
is malleable, is changeable, it's corruptible, okay, which is why
you need to listen to your heart instead of listening

(31:25):
to your head. The longest journey you're ever gonna take,
as a human being is moving out of your head,
move eighteen inches below that into your heart. And when
you can lead and come from your heart, then there's
nothing to think about because you already know it.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
So how do you make that journey? If you have come?
If I come to you like I said, and I've
got this diagnosis and you're gonna help.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Me, I'm gonna show you why you have the diagnosis,
and then I'm gonna show you what we need to
do to remedy the reason for why you have your diagnosis.
And then I'm gonna support you in your process recovering
from your diagnosis. And then I'm going to support you
after you recover from your diagnosis on rebuilding your health.
And once we rebuild your health, then I'm going to

(32:10):
support you in your maintenance of your health for as
long as it's important to you. That's the process.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well. One of the things that you're able to do
that that's unusual in your practice is that you're able
to identify problems before they become that diagnosis, before they
become full.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Blown correct And that's the thing. Through a tool that
I use called manual muscle testing. It's interfacing with your
nervous system, and your nervous system has no ability to lie.
It just simply responds to stimulus. Okay, So my job
is to interface with your nervous system and determine where

(32:49):
things are working and where things are being blocks from working,
and understand where the blocks are and then understand, well,
what's causing those blocks. And once we understand the relationship
between cause and effect, then we can come up with
a remedy in order to re establish normal health and
normal function, and then the problem fixes itself on its own.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
So if you fix the function, because I mean, we've
talked about functional medicine, if you fix the function, does
health follow suit with that?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
It should. That's the way the body's designed. If you
stimulated the right way, you get healthier and stronger. If
you stimulate it the wrong way, you get weaker and
have problems. And so the job is figure out which
way to stimulate it so that you get the desired
outcome that you're looking for, whether it's health or whether
it's sickness.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So that's very interesting that you would sit there and change.
So if I get let's say I have an issue
with I don't know, so let's say I have an
issue with my gallbladder and it's not functioning correctly. So
if you can improve the function of my gallbladder, whatever
the condition was, the diagnosis is that actually can change
over time.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yes, And more importantly, I've got the first step identifying
why you have the gallbladder issue and addressing the why,
addressing the cause. When you affect change in the cause,
then the outcome of how the gallbladder functions is going
to change how it functions. And if you do it
consistently long enough, then the condition that you came in

(34:23):
with is going to heal itself and reverse itself because
you've put it back on the proper trajectory as opposed
to how life stimulated it to go into the wrong trajectory.
And everything is an outcome of the choices that you make,
because all choices have consequences, and when you aren't even
aware of the choices that you're making and the consequences

(34:45):
that they're having, whether it's physical, whether it's chemical, whether
it's mental, whether it's emotional, whether it's spiritual, nutritional toxicity,
whatever the method is that's leading to the imbalance that
you have. Once we shine a light on the mechanism
of cause, and you can adjust your behavior or change

(35:05):
your behavior that's going to facilitate a better outcome. Then
you get to recover what you lost and hopefully recovered
to the point where you don't ever have to worry
about losing it ever again.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Right, So there's that moment where you go into So
the cause could be any one of those areas that
you talked about, certainly so, but there are usually multiple
relations to that because once you start down one cause,
that can provoke another.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's very true. And so it's a question of searching
back to the source. Okay, Yes, I find people that
have multiple problems, and when I'm looking for the source,
I may find a source and then I will show you,
as the person, how that one source manifests in all
these different symptoms or all these different physical ailments or
all these different imbalances that you're aware of within your body.

(36:00):
And then when we address that and then support the
things that we're out of balance so that they can
fully heal. Once you take the irritant out of the
system and then feed the system what it needs to recover,
and it will recover, and then the problem is gone
once and for all.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
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(37:02):
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Speaker 1 (37:10):
If you're dealing with a situation where you're not necessarily
feeling healthy and you have just a temporary malaise, something
that you just can't even quite identify, How do you
know that that's either a health condition or is on
its way to becoming a health condition.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Do you think it's normal to feel that general feeling
of malaise and feeling off and not feeling right and
feeling abundantly healthy the way that you should do you
think that's a normal way to feel.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
No, I think it's not a normal way to feel.
But I think that you go in and you speak
to the doctor and they say, well, you know, it's
just too vague for us to be able to figure
anything out and do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
And that's the problem that they have because they're motivated
by having full blown disease in order to have the
way that the system is set up, in order to
have them get paid, they need to have full blown sickness,
full blown disease. Okay, so you come in and to
have full blown sickness and disease, you have to be
functioning at forty percent or less of your capacity. So

(38:14):
when you go to the doctor, because you are at
fifty percent, you know that something's off and you want
their professional opinion as to what is off and why
it's off, and what you can do to remedy that.
They can't help you because it doesn't qualify for their
intervention as being reimbursed by a third party payer known
as health insurance. Okay, so when you come into my office,

(38:39):
if you lose greater than three percent of normal functioning,
meaning that you're up at ninety seven or ninety six
or ninety five percent, I can pick up your problem,
and I can pick up the mechanism of why you
have your problem, and then we can delve into what
we have to do in order to eliminate that. And

(38:59):
it's just, you know, it's just a different approach. Medicine
has its place. When you break a bone, when you're
in a car accident, when you have some sort of
traumatic injury to the body, I'm not your guy to call.
Go to the emergency room. Let them put you back together.
Once they put you back together, good, let me help
you to rehabilitate what went wrong and why it went wrong,

(39:24):
so that you can actually strengthen the body so that
you're not going to repeat that same problem.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Mm hm. So, I mean, what happens if you know,
you have some kind of symptom and it shifts around
and moves from place to place. So today it's oh,
it's my left side. Now, my shoulder is aching, it's
my knee hurts. Well, what do you deal with the
situation like.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
That, you have a deeper issue than just pain that migrates,
and you need to understand what that deeper issue is.
And so when you come in and you have an
evaluation with me, we are going to find the specifics
of why you have this migrating pain, general feeling of malaise,
and non specific understanding of what's what. We're going to
figure that out for you.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
M So. I mean you often see people who's that
they've had the diagnosis, and they may may have gone
on for years that they've had that diagnosis and now
they finally come to see you.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I see those people every opportunity that I have based
upon their willingness to give me the opportunity. Yes, I
get people that have had chronic disease for a very
long time and they're finally tired of it and they
want my opinion as to what they can do about it.
I wish they would have come and seen me earlier,
but that's not the way that the cards played out.
So I will help them understand what's going on with

(40:42):
them and what they can do to be proactive in
order to help minimize, reduce, eliminate, and then build health
as a result. But they they have to make the
first step, and the first step is they have to
become so disenchanted with how their body's feeling and functioning

(41:03):
and they want to truly do something to restore their health.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
So what do you do to help somebody get their
like an immune system that's dysfunctioning. How do you help
them get their immune system back on track.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
We're going to feed their immune system specific nutrients that's
going to help support the recovery of their immune system.
We're going to encourage them to eat good food, avoid
the crap food, do it consistently. We're going to ask
them to take drink lots of water on a regular basis.
We're going to ask them to exercise. We're going to

(41:40):
ask them to set their bedroom up for success. Get
the television out of the bedroom so that you're not
watching television and then falling asleep to it, or any
of that kind of stuff. You want to create up
a healthy, healing environment and then you want to take
advantage of it so that you can recover your healths

(42:01):
from any kind of immune system issue or any kind
of any issue.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
So you said that if somebody comes in or somebody
who's been in a car accident or broken a bone
or something like that. You're not the guy to go to.
But when you're in the recovery process, in the healing process,
you can be of help.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
What are you doing can be of help?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
What do you do in those.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Cases support the body to return to normal function. Just
support the body to heal, Give the body what it
needs in order to heal, and get rid of the
interference that's blocking it from healing, and get out of
the way. You know, one of my mentors, the late
great doctor Victor Frank, says, give the body what it
asks for and get out of the way, and miracles happen.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
M h.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
And another one of my mentors, the wonderful doctor Scott Walker, says,
God does the healing and the doctor takes the fee
mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Now, one of the things that people probably come to
you is because we live in a society where we
take a lot of antibiotics, and the antibiotics, well, you
might have gotten rid of your earache or your strap
throat or something like that, but then there are subsequent
consequences that happen because don't those antibiotics have a negative

(43:22):
effect on all the other bacterias in your body that
you actually need to be healthy.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Well, they do, and so there's a time for antibiotics,
and there's a time where antibiotics aren't the right thing
to do. And so when your immune system is failing
and you don't have enough of the right ingredients in
order to fight off the bacterial infection without them, antibiotics
would be appropriate because the antibiotic is going to knock
down the infection to where the point is that the

(43:49):
immune system can now handle it. Okay, when are antibiotics
the wrong answers when it's not a bacterial infection, and
when antibiot will create more harm than good. You know,
the hippocratic galth says first, do no harm, and doctors
in today's day and age, they ignore that because they

(44:10):
just want to get paid. So they're going to do
whatever they think that they're supposed to do. And most
doctors don't have the ability to think anymore, so they're
just doing what they know, which is just prescribe this
medication for these symptoms and send them on their way,
and that's the best that they can offer. And so
antibiotics were over prescribed for a period of time in
our country, and it led to various health imbalances as

(44:33):
a result. And so you need to understand what you're
doing and what kind of long term effects in the
microbiome and in the enteric nervous system that's being imbalanced
as a result of antibiotics. Antibiotics are needed in very specific,
small number of cases and shouldn't be handed out like
Halloween candy.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
No. I mean, can you get I think there's a
ceedf that that can be a consequence of having too
much anti biotics where your body can't handle what it
needs to right.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
What you've done is you've created a new pathogen within
the within the system because of the imbalance that the
antibiotics created, and now you have to do something to
knock that down and restore balance. And so taking an
anti yeast, anti candidious supplement and giving the person a
good probiotic as well as adjusting what's going on within

(45:27):
that particular organ that's growing that new problem. That's part
of one of the types of cares that we administer
to the people that come to see us.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Now, okay, and what can the kind of natural medicine
that you an approach that you take do to treat
long term illnesses.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Long term illnesses. I'm going to do whatever I can
to educate and support the person so that they can
take the right steps to avoid the problems from becoming
long term. And if they are already long term, I'm
going to teach them what they need to do in
order to start recovering and moving it back in the
healthy direction as opposed to the chronic disease direction. And

(46:10):
as long as you have a desire, as long as
you have a willingness, as long as you're capable, God
forsakes nobody. As long as you want to put the time,
energy and effort in, then you can recover. And it
may take a long time, but that should motivate you
every day. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet. I have a ninety six year

(46:32):
old patient during COVID developed a stroke and they while
she was in some kind of quarantine house that wouldn't
let me in in order to help her, okay, And
I've been working with her for the last you know,
four years or however long it's been since she had

(46:52):
her stroke. And I go see her once a month
and she's she's still in her wheelchair, okay, but she
impressed me. I mean, I've been harping on her every
time I see her for the last four years to
use the arm that was impacted by the stroke, and
she would always give me an excuse why she couldn't.

(47:13):
So when I'm in her house, I would force her
to use that arm. Well, when I went to see
her this past week, okay, she showed me how much
normal function she could use in her right arm. And
I was always trying to get her to lift her
arm up as high as she could. And when I

(47:36):
came into the house, because I do a house call
for her, I'm willing to do that for certain people
who don't have any other choice. So when I go
to her house and I come in, I always walk
in and I always give her a kiss on the forehead,
and I sit down and I ask her what's new
and what's going on, And you know, I'm kind of
getting to the point where I understand that she's probably

(47:57):
not going to change because she is, you know, and
the other side of ninety five. And if she doesn't
want to, she doesn't have to because she's earned the
right to say no. But for whatever reason, her nurse
that stays with her at her house and helps her
navigate her life throughout the day. For whatever reason, they

(48:19):
decided to become motivated to do what I've been asking
her to do for the last four years. So I
walk into the house and now she's showing me what
she can do. And I was a static for her.
Why because she's doing what she can She's kicking the
ball with her bad leg. Okay, she's playing soccer in

(48:39):
her living room. Okay. Nurse rolls her the ball and
a surge job to kick it with her affected leg,
not her good leg, okay. And when I come into
her house and I give her the things to hold,
she always wants to put it in her healthy arm,
and I won't put it in her healthy arm. I
have her put it in her affected arm. And now

(49:00):
she's able to do things, and she's able to grab
it on her own, and she's getting more movement, and
I'm ecstatic for her for the simple fact that even
at ninety six, she finally decided that she wasn't giving up.
And I don't know what changed her motivation. I don't
even care. I just want to support her because she's
got to change in her motivation. M M.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Now, people don't always present the same with various conditions.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
They never do. Everybody presents unique for them, So.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Even though they have the same diagnosis, they might present differently.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, because the diagnosis means two people who don't know.
I don't care what the name is. I don't care
what you call it. I just want to know what
you want to do about it. And people who are
been given a diagnosis for a lifetime condition that's never
going to go away and then we make it go away. Well,
I guess she didn't have that. It's what the neurologist

(49:56):
said to me back when I had developed nerve palsy
in my face, okay, And he told me that I
had activated the shingles virus and that was a consequence
of that, so he gave me the diagnosis. I went
back to my office, treated my face for the shingles virus,
and when I went back for my follow up, I

(50:19):
didn't have any of the symptoms that he expected me
to have for a very long time. And he says, well,
I guess you didn't have that. I said, well, you're
the one who gave me the diagnosis based upon my
blood results. Yeah, but it doesn't heal that way. I said, well,
that's because you don't know what I do. He said, well,
what did you do? I said, you told me what
I had. I went back to my office. I treated
myself for the virus that causes shingles. He says, wait

(50:42):
a second, you can't treat a virus. I said, no,
you can't treat a virus. I said, because that's your
belief system. I treat viruses every day in my office,
and I get people well because I treat the virus.
He's like, well, how do you do that? I said, well,
if you want to know, you come over to my
office and I'll show you. He never came because that
upset his Apple card. His level of understanding would have

(51:04):
been upset if I showed him a different outcome than
when he was educated to understand. You know, it's like, okay,
you want to just you know, And I use this
as an example all the time. You wouldn't discriminate against
somebody that's in kindergarten because they're at a kindergarten mentality, okay,
And just because you're in twelfth grade and they're in
kindergarten doesn't mean that you're better than they are, they

(51:26):
just haven't done the amount of training that you have.
But they may have the potential. Maybe they're a savant,
Maybe they know more than you do, they just haven't
been given the opportunity to express it. I had a
five year old that was so advanced. He was learning
at a fourth grade level, and they were trying to

(51:47):
teach him at a kindergarten level, and he was bored
out of his gourg so that the teachers in the
school wanted to put him on medication to tone down
his nervous system because they said he was hyperactive. So
he came to me, and I spent enough time with
this gentleman to understand that he was an advanced individual.

(52:07):
So I convinced the school to give him an aptitude test,
and he did something they never seen before. He finished
the test. Usually, when you get to the highest level
of your aptitude, you're gonna get three questions in a
row wrong. When you get three questions in a row wrong,
the test is over. He finished the test. They had

(52:30):
no idea what to do with him, but they wanted
to medicate him. He didn't need medication, He needed better education.
He needed an education to his level. But they never
even considered that he was an advanced five year old
as opposed to somebody that's lollygagging and isn't ready for
full grade kindergartens. It's born, and we have wonderful I'm

(52:51):
sure Einstein was the same way. The story that I
heard was the man was either Einstein or Edison couldn't
talk till they were like eight years old. And the
story was because they had nothing that they wanted to say,
because everything was so basic that there was nothing to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Well, this is this has been a good conversation, Doc Grig.
We were almost out of time today, but before we go,
in that last minute that we have, can you let
people know the best place to reach out to you.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Absolutely, if you're interested in staying healthy or recovering your
health and then staying healthy, I would ask you to
call me directly at area code eight four five five
six one two two two five again eight four five
five six one two two two five. That is my
cell phone. It is my personal cell phone. I will
be the one answering the phone because I do want

(53:41):
to talk to you. Other than that, you can email
me directly at Doc Rick at spineboy dot com d
oc ri c k at spineboy dot com. You can
stop into the office at one thirty eight Canal Street
tweet four zero four of building four hundred, and whether
you stop in call uh email me. I suppose you

(54:01):
could text me. I don't like texting, but I suppose
you could do that too. I really don't care. I
just want to help you, and if you need help,
I want to communicate with you, so please take the
opportunity to do that. In the meantime, I want to
thank you for tuning into this week's show and ask
you to tune back in next week, same health time,
same health station. This is doctor Richard on tune from

(54:21):
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center, saying I look forward to supporting
you when you're health miners. My physician he said, you're
definitely ill. Then to the nurse, I've seen worse because
the doctor just gave me a pill. Take one of
those three times a day. You don't never stop until
you're dirty, dead or almost better. Keep out of the

(54:42):
reach of children. I thinks that might be some side effects.
You mean probably will well limits of fact. Just come
back an