Episode 146: Healthcare Vs. Insurance

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, you're definitely ill. Then to the nurse, I've
seen worse than the doctor.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Just gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Take one of those three times today. You don't never
stop on till you're really dinner off a better tea
out of the region. Children. The thing is that some
side effects, you mean, the probably will well. Limits of fact,
you can't come back. And I'll give you one out
of the film. On top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, and then he showed

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me his bill.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years to support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for

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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from Doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every

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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
You are listening to the Alternative Healthcare Network.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health advocate Mark So Rick.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's great to be back here. And I thought today
we would start out with a very broad question and
see what your answer to. This is, what exactly would
you consider health to be?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Health?

Speaker 6 (01:56):
The formal definition is a state of optimum or best physical, mental,
social I throw in their spiritual well being and not
merely the absence of disease, sickness or infirmity.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay, so what does it mean to be healthy.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
All of your functions being as close to one hundred
percent as possible?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Mmm? I mean, doesn't everybody get sick from time to time.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Well, anyone who runs themselves down will have a tendency
to get sick as an indication that you've worn yourself down.
And this happens many different ways through the lifestyle choices
that we make on a daily basis. And when you
continue to make those choices that run your body down,
then you're going to have a tendency to get sicker
or have problems more so than the person who doesn't.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
But I mean getting a cold or catching the flu.
These are pretty normal things, aren't they normal.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's an interesting word.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
It's quite common to get a cold or flu for
those who do not take care of themselves properly, it's
not normal to get sick. So we need to understand
the difference between normal normal versus common health and expressing
health is normal. Getting sick is a process that people experience,

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and it's very common for people to experience it.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
But it's certainly not normal.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
But wouldn't it be wise since they get a flu
shot and prevent yourself from getting flu in the first place.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Absolutely not, And I cannot stress this enough. Getting any
shot is giving you the problem in a small dose
to artificially stimulate your immune system to do its job,
so you are actually using a reduced strain of the
pathogen in an effort to force your immune system to
develop a solution to something you may already have a

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solution to or can develop by natural exposure. Injecting a
pathogen behind the immune system does not really both well
for developing immunity versus doing it naturally. And they are
pushed every year based upon ignorance and fear, and it's
sad and I personally feel that it needs to stop

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because I've got countless stories of people who went and
got their flu vaccine and then ultimately came down with
the flu. And the one that stands out to me
the biggest is the fact that a woman had lymph
adnopathy in her left arm and upper shoulder area, and
so in an effort to fix that, they had removed

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all of her lymph glands, so she had no sewer
systems who were left arm and her left upper chest.
And so the time came where they were pushing the
flu vaccine and her doctor was insistent that she needed
because of her issue, she needed to get a flu vaccine,
So he gave her a flu shot of all places,

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in her left arm where where she had no way
to get rid of it. She had the flu for
a month. This was a seventy eight years old woman
had the flu for a month because she got a
flu vaccine.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
That's terrible.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And she was miserable.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I bet she was.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
And I got to help her through her misery. But
trust me, she was miserable.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, the flu is a very miserable thing to catch,
for sure. Now, what is the difference between say, a
minor sickness and a chronic condition.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Well, a minor sickness this is our brief period of
time until your immune system replicates the solution a chronic conditions,
or failure to develop a solution to a problem, or
restimulating the problem chronically over time.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Now, when you're talking about, you know, going from having
a healthy body to then getting really seriously sick, that
journey doesn't happen overnight. Typically you would catch something and
it would get worse over time. How does that journey.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Look, Well, it's a very difficult journey.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
What I can tell you is is that what we
do within our healthcare industry in an effort to try
to boost people so that they're prepared for the dangerous
world that exists and the germs that exist out there.
I have some issues with the practices that go on.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know, I don't feel.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
That it's the correct practice, which may, you know, create
a little bit of controversy, but you know, I have
to try to be honest and transparent with the people
that are listening to the show. Children when they're born
get injected after simply being born, with as many as
sixty eight different injections over the first sixteen to eighteen

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years of their life, and this will lead to chronic
health issues. And my hope is is that Robert Kennedy
Junior is exposing this to the people of the United
States and that there's going to be some changes that
go on so that our children that are being born
in that are innocent aren't going to be exposed to
all this hooplaw and this fear that helps to make

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lots of money for big pharma, but creates chronic health
epidemics that children who as they continue to get older
and become young adults and then even full fledged adults,
are developing issues as a result of the trials and
tribulations they were put through even before they had an
opportunity to fully engage and integrate into society.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Well, why is it that we've gone down this path
and it seems to have taken us so far from
being healthy.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Well, we definitely have gone down the path and we've
moved away from being health and we have misnamed the
care of sick people to healthcare and sell people health insurance,
knowing that they're creating health issues with all the foods, etc.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
That we're being.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Given, not to mention the chemtrails and other sources of
poisoning of humanity. And so we need to understand that
all health issues are nutritional deficiency diseases. And since the
Food and Drug Administration became very active in the mastardization
of our food and the refining of our food and

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an effort to use more medications as people continue to
age and develop. So back since the early nineteen thirties
when the FDA became more about drugs and less about food,
we've had problems ever since, and those problems are only
getting worse than the number of interventions. How many vaccines

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did you receive as a kid mark.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
No idea, but a lot of them?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think you think it was a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean I don't. I have no recollection.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I guess that's fair. When I was growing up, I
got three, Okay.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
I got three. Now kids get as many a sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, I remember when the polio we had the polio vaccine,
and then there was a sugar cube months. I think
there was a month's one. I didn't get a vaccinated
for chicken box. I had chicken pox right.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
There also wasn't a vaccine then.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
But what's interesting is is in my lifetime I have
seen the tremendous amount of increase in the fear based
mentality that they use and the insistence of vaccines. And
so when moms with newborns come to me and they're
asking for my advice, I try to refer them to

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the pediatricians that I know are a little bit more
respectful of helping the parent to understand what's being done,
what's not being done. And at the end of the day, day, uh,
these practitioners are doing the right thing and they're not
quick to just try to make a money grab by

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injecting these kids with you know, as many as six
vaccines in one day. That's just crazy. And then once
you know they're they're slowly pulling the the uh, the
the curtains back on the understanding of autism. They're slowly
doing it. I just wish they would just tell us.

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I've known for at least twenty five years, okay, and
it's it's it's sad. I have two nephews that are
on the spectrum as a result of vaccine injury, and lucky, luckily,
they've they recovered enough. My the older of my two
nephews is he's finishing up his freshman year uh and

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in a business school out at University of pitt And
uh he's doing very very well. And his younger brother,
who's getting ready to graduate high school, he's also doing
very well. But they are both children that suffer from
vaccine injury.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
And I guess you know you were talking about the food,
and the food has declined in quality over the years.
It's sort of making sense why we're seeing overall our
health outcomes deteriorating.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Yeah, Stronger treatments that create disease, Crappier foods that create
deficiencies that lead to disease. I mean, these are the
primary reasons for why our health outcomes have gone down lately.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
And one of the things we have to deal with
is the fact that we try to spread the risk
of health outcomes and health problems and severe issues. So
we have health insurance, and that seems to have changed
the way things are being evaluated that we're not necessarily

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evaluating in a same formula they say you're using, which
is how to get somebody to be healthy, but we're
using that as a way to manage people's sickness.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Yeah, and it's a it's a problem, and we allow
them to create the problems and then ask us to
pay in advance for the solutions to those problems that
they create.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And so.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's it's it's a challenge in the sense that.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
The average human in this country doesn't understand what it
takes to be healthy. We think we understand what it
takes to be healthy, but then we go out to
the store and we buy the crap offerings that are
made available to us that ultimately weaken our system and
create the foundational basis for which us for which.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
All of us will get sick.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
And you know, they talk about pathogens and how pathogens
are getting stronger, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
And I would dispute that.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
I would say that the pathogens aren't getting stronger because
they're not taking steroids and going to the gym and
working out and training all day every day in order.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
To become a better pathogen.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
We as a species because of the quality of our
food that has diminished over the last fifty or sixty years,
and the amount of artificial colors and flavors and artificial
ingredients and genetically modified ingredients, and the plastics and the
BPAs and all the other chemicals that find their way
into our food, and the fluorides and all of those

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kinds of things that ultimately creates weaker bodies and weaker outcomes,
and that makes us weaker when we're exposed to a pathogen,
and so the response that we should have as a
healthy individual doesn't happen, and so it takes longer, or
it takes more intervention, or it takes stronger medication.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
In order to.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
Help get over what they're calling superbugs. And I don't
feel that the bugs are getting bigger and stronger. I
feel that we are getting weaker as a species because
of how we are treating disease and how we're not
focused on what it takes in order to be healthy.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, but I wonder you know what protection you get
by having health insurance, because ultimately insurance is to protect
you against some kind of a disastrous situation. If you
have fire insurance over your health, as in case there's
a fire. You don't want a fire, right, but.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
If there could be a fire, then you have the
insurance to cover that.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Right.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
The challenge is is that people misunderstand what.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
The term health insurance means.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
People think that if you have health insurance, that you
should be able to use the insurance in order to
stay healthy or in order to recover your health and
to for the second part of what I just said,
there's a part of that that.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Is somewhat true.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Okay, your health insurance is used for a crisis. Your
health insurance is used to.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Help get you out of that crisis.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
But to qualify for a crisis, you have to be
functioning at less than forty percent of normal. When you
cross that threshold of forty percent, and you go below
the forty percent threshold, now you qualify for sickness care,
You qualify for medical intervention, You qualify for using your

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health insurance policy. Once they get you out of symptoms,
once they get you above that forty percent threshold. So
once you're at forty one percent, forty five percent, fifty percent,
seventy five percent, okay, your health insurance will not. You
can't use your health insurance to maintain that level of health.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Maintaining that level of health is on you, just like
you not setting a fire in your house is up
to you. But if a fire accidentally starts due to
an electrical thing or due to a grease thing or
something along those lines, okay, hopefully the insurance will cover you.
But they have insurance inspectors and adjusters to where they're

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going to try to save the company that wrote the
insurance policy money, and so the way that they're going
to do that is they may find against your claim.
My wife had a car accident while she was driving
from New York to Savannah, and somebody pulled out on
the highway through one of those U turn areas where

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you're not.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Supposed to make a U turn.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
But this was a bunch of Hispanic people that were
doing some kind of landscaping something or other, so they
pulled out in their trailer that was behind their truck.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Caused my wife, who was in the slow lane.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
To have to put her brakes on to avoid running
into them. Well, the five cars behind her didn't slow down,
so she got rear ended in a chain by the
car behind her. The car behind that car for five cars.
So we went to have her car repaired. They had
her car for six weeks. I'm like, this is ridiculous.

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We haven't heard anything. So I'm the kind of person who,
like my dad as a bullet in a china shop,
I'm gonna go ask questions and I'm gonna go ask
questions to get true answers. I'm not gonna let them
put me off. So we went to the facility that
was fixing the car, and we could see the car
and at the end of the day, my wife drove
the car for two months before they got her in.

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Now they've had the car for six weeks. So we
go in and they're just like, yeah, it just came
back ten minutes ago that we're going to total the car.
My wife drove the car for two months without an issue.
They've decided to total the car. Why because they're going
to break it apart into pieces and sell the pieces

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and they're gonna reclaim as much money as they possibly
can rather than just fix the car. So it's a
question of do they make money do they not make money?
And if it's designed to make money, then they're gonna
do it in a way that they're going to make
the most money as possible. And you know, did they
make my wife ole? No, they didn't make her hole?
Why because she still load money on the car. So

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whatever money that she got for the car went to
pay off the car, but she didn't have any.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Money left over to go buy a new car.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
So I had to get a pony up some money
in order for her to go get a new car.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, this is this is I guess, one of the
issues that we have with our insurance and the way
it's not really functioning for the benefit of people. This
is a fabulous conversation, Doc Greck. We need to go
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
This might seem like the most obvious of questions to you,
But wouldn't it be better to treat somebody before they've
crossed the threshold of having a disease.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Wow, Yes, that's a funny question. That's what I do.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
That's what I do for a living, and it's about
being proactive with your health. It's about getting in front
of things so that you don't actually have problems and
living a lifestyle that prevents you from having problems. I
can safely say that I haven't been sick in over
thirty years, okay, and it's because I live a proactive lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
But it also has to do with.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
With a trauma that I experienced growing up as a
kid when I went to see a doctor and the
doctor was worse shape than I was, and he was
giving me advice, and I remember looking at him, thinking,
look at the pot calling the kettle black. You're telling
me all the things that I need to do to
recover my health. When you're sitting there, I can tell
that you're a smoker, which is the worst thing that

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you could ever possibly do to your health, and you're overweight,
and you sit behind a desk all day and you
use your authoritarian methods in which to influence how people
make decisions. And I was just like, Yeah, I can't
do what you're going to ask me to do, and
I'm going to have to find a better solution.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah. And I think that was the doctors that we
knew growing up. Now with a way the health industry
is being dysfunctioning is even different than that. And now
there seems to be a bigger and bigger gap between
what it's healthcare and what is health insurance.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Right, And the challenge is is that healthcare is dictated
by the health insurance. When you walk into a medical
doctor's office, the woman behind the counter or I don't
want to be sexist. The person behind the counter could
be a man, I guess, but more times than not,
in my experience, it's a woman behind the counter. And

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I've seen this as an experience going into different doctor's
offices and wanting to ask questions or wanting whatever, and
the first thing that they asked is they asked for
your insurance card. They asked for your insurance card before
they even ask for your name. I just find that
absolutely fascinating. You know, my wife had to go in
for a particular procedure and she's fine, and everything turned

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out fine, but we had to get an answer to
a question, and I gave her the flexibility to do
what she thought was the right thing to do for
her and her health. And so she said, well, I
think it would be important for me to go have
a colonoscopy, and you know, so we went in and
we had to go through the process of getting approved
for it before she could actually have it done. So

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you got to go see the doctor, and you got
to go have an evaluation and this, that and the
other thing. And so we walk into the office and
she's like, I have a ten o'clock appointment, and the
woman behind the little cobyhole was just like, can you
give me your insurance card? And my wife said, well, actually,
I'm a self pay. Oh you're a self pay Okay,

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what is your name?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
And it was just like okay.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
Gave her a whole bunch of forms to fill out
and we were able to see the doctor and we
paid for it and all this that and the other thing,
and she went and had the procedure and it was fine.
But it just is fascinating to me that all the
health care facilities' biggest concern is is getting paid and
making sure that they can get paid. And the only

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way that they can understand that is to look at
your health insurance card and call the eight hundred number
on the back and find out what the limits of
the policy are and what the deductible is and what
the copay is and all of those things, and get
an understanding of what they're going to have access to
monetary wise, before they even you even get to the
doctor and before you get to find out what's wrong

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with you. And at the end of the day, the
methodology of payment should be secondary, the care should be primary.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, but it's not. And I mean, you go to
the doctors now and their obligations, their responsibilities are more
about filling out forms. I was starting to one of
my Taichi students who's a physical therapist, and he was
scheduled to work on I think on a Sunday from
you know, eight till two or something like that. It
took him another two and a half hours after his

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scheduled time just to fill out the paperwork forms that
he had to do on his computer.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
So, for a healthcare professional who's working in that field
under those conditions, they're being put under enormous amount of stress,
so they're not even necessarily able to provide the kind
of care they want to give.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
And what's interesting is when you come to my office
and when you're a new patient in my office, I
take copious amount notes while we're doing the evaluation.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
But.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
All of my focus is one on the patient and
understanding what's going on with the patient. And I will
take the notes as I'm able to take the notes.
But my notes in terms of helping somebody, it's more
about them and it's more about what's coming out of
their mouth, and it is about what I'm writing down
or having to meet qualifications for a third party inspector

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to make sure that I answered all asked all the
right questions, got all the answers, and dotted all my
eyes and crossed all my t's and all of that
kind of stuff. And so when you come to somebody
like myself, definitely, when you come to my office, the
focus is going to be on you, and it's not
going to be on what your insurance is because I
don't accept insurance. But it is going to be about

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taking care of you and making sure that you have
the understanding of what's going on with you and that
I've gotten rid of all your concerns. You're not coming
at it from a fear based mentality. You're coming at
it from being in inform mentality. And once you understand
your circumstance is good, then you can make the right
decision in order to move forward.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yep, it's just very difficult for the people in that
industry to be able to continue to do what they're
really meaning to do. Now. On the other hand, accidents happened,
So having insurance for a crisis is important. You need
emergency protection, don't.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
You You do, And what I would consider for people
is just appreciating what goes into accident insurance. If you
have an accident on the job, that's called workers' comp
insurance that is paid for by your employer. If you
have accident at your house, okay, you have homeowner's insurance,
which should cover any kind of injury that you sustain
in your home. If you have an accident in the car,

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you have auto insurance.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Which pays for the care that's associated with that.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
The health insurance that you have doesn't involve any one
of those three insurances. The health insurance that you have
is there for your long term chronic health situation and
whether you're taking care of yourself or whether you're neglecting yourself,
whether you're growing problems, or whether you're preventing problems. And
I personally don't have health insurance. My health insurance is

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my way of life. My health insurance is eating quality food.
My health insurance is taking all my supplements. My health
insurance is exercising. My health insurance is getting good sleep.
My health insurance is drinking plenty of water. My health
insurance is eating quality food. My health insurance is taking
care of the challenges.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
That I have in life in a way that makes
me feel good. About things instead of feeling stressed about things.
And so.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
There are ways for you to lead a lifestyle to
where you're not going to have health issues and where
you're being proactive about your health, and then health insurance
isn't typically necessary in that case. I would ask somebody
to buy a crisis care insurance policy so that if
you have a crisis, it comes with a high deductible,

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but you're one hundred percent covered to help deal with
that crisis. And so you know, you could have a
twenty five hundred dollars deductible, you can have a five
thousand dollars deductible. My thought is to earn the deductible,
put that money into an account where you're not going
to touch it unless you have a crisis, and then
get your crisis care policy so it's going to the

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premium is going to be less, but you're going to
get better coverage if there is a crisis because you've
got a hire deductible.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Well, I think for a lot of people, they have
their insurance because they're dealing with chronic health issues.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Right And it's sad that they're dealing with chronic health
issues because they missed the boat on understanding how to
be healthy, and that's why we do this show. We
want people to understand what they can do for themselves
to take control of their health and of their life
so that they're not growing chronic health issues and leading
lives acquiet, desperation.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, and the other thing is you're seeing now so
many people is one of the major causes of bankruptcy
is our health issues. You know, a child, you have
a child that gets sudden some kind of terrible accident
to you know, car accident is surviving. We had a
young woman that was in an accident a couple of
years ago who just after fifteen months got out of

(28:14):
the hospital rehab from the injuries that she sustained in
a car accident driven by somebody else. Right, So there
are those there are those occasions or those events that happen,
but they're not the norm for most people.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
No, they aren't the norm.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
And so what you need to do is you need
to be proactive. You need to become responsible and understand
what goes into any kind of crisis that could occur,
and if there's a way for you to avoid the crisis,
you know, certainly live a lifestyle that that stops you
from having a crisis, but also take the necessary precaution

(28:51):
so that if you do have a crisis, that you
have a method in which to deal with it. And
if that's a catastrophic care policy, see if that's investing
in a platinum plan health insurance versus a gold versus
the silver versus a bronze versus just you know, triage

(29:12):
type care policy. Whatever the case happens to be, you
need to decide how to protect your health. And the
way that I would encourage people is to become informed
about what goes into health versus what doesn't go into health,
and live a lifestyle that's going to get your body
to express its highest level of health possible, and then

(29:34):
maintain that lifestyle to just keep you there, you know,
the same way that I do every day for myself.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I mean, wouldn't it make sense to have universal health
care and not have this crazy way that we're going
about it now.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Well, only if you're setting up a system to create
health issues. That is what we've attempted with Hillary Clinton
taking our healthcare, taking over our health care, and then
what it morphed into with Obamacare. And are we healthier
as a result of the government controlling the system. Absolutely
not the health of our country compared to other developed

(30:10):
countries within the world. You know, of the ten countries
in the world that have the highest per capita income
and the access to all the things that make them
a first world country, we rank tenth out of those
ten countries.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Well, so here we are. We're in the wealthiest country
on the planet, and yet we have health that is
at the worst level for anybody you know, any country
at our level. What do we do to turn this
around again?

Speaker 6 (30:45):
We have to get educated. We have to develop lifestyles,
we have to develop understandings. We have to understand that
it's not normal for us to get sick. It's not
normal for us to develop heart disease. It's not normal
for us to develop cancer. It's not normal for us
to have diabetes, normal for us to have high cholesterol.
It's not normal for us to have high blood pressure.
It's not normal for any of those things. Those are

(31:07):
results of nutritional deficiencies. We don't teach people about nutrition.
The food that's available in our stores has all been
bastardized and added artificial colors, artificial flavors, it's been genetically modified,
it's been changed in some way, shape or form in
an effort to create more profit for the manufacturers and

(31:28):
more health issues for us. And that falls under the
umbrella the Food and Drug Administration. And because we have
a food and Drug administration, and the emphasis has always
been on making sure that people are taking drugs and
buying the pharmaceuticals and managing their health, and the system
that we have currently in our society, it doesn't work

(31:49):
the way that it should work as far as human
beings not getting sick and not developing chronic health epidemics.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
And my hope.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Is is that the it is slowly changing. It's going
to take a while for the tide to change, but you,
as the listener, can make that change yourself simply by
making a decision for yourself that you're going to become
more actively involved in understanding your health. You're going to
be proactive with your health. You're going to do and

(32:20):
adopt lifestyles that's going to be beneficial for your health.
You're going to improve your diet, you're going to improve
your water intake, you're going to improve your exercise, you're
going to improve your sleep, you're going to improve your relationship.
Whatever the case happens to be that causes a person
to have stress and causes them to go out of
balance with their health. By coming interested in your health

(32:44):
and doing the things necessary to maintain your health, you
don't have to have health issues, and you shouldn't have
to worry about looking over your shoulder for the same
diseases that your parents had because you think that you
have the same genes and a foregone conclusion that you're
destined to have the same issues that they have, but

(33:05):
won't say you already.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Have some kind of health condition or health problem that's
going on with you. Does it make sense to go
see somebody like yourself and get an alternative healthcare solution?

Speaker 6 (33:17):
At this point, from my perspective, the answer is absolutely yes,
and it's always been yes, which is why I do
what I do. I'm interested in understanding the mechanisms of
cause and helping you, the one with the problem, to
address the cause of your problem so that you don't
have to have your problem anymore. I would say that

(33:38):
probably seventy five percent of the people that come to
me don't have health issues. Well, they don't have health issues.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
They come to me.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
They come to me once a month, and during that
once a month they get their hun tune up and
they go away for another month and they don't have
any health issues, and they come and ask their questions
about it, anything that's going on in their life. We
have conversations, we give them advice, we give them guidance.
They do the things that I ask them to do.

(34:08):
They come back their problems better, they don't have any
problems anymore, and then they they just continue to live
their lives and continue to grow old gracefully without all
the other things that the healthcare industry wants you to
have and has set up a system to make sure
that you're going.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
To have it. So is what you do. Would that
be considered functional medicine or simply alternative health care or.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Well, at the end of the day, I don't really
care what you call it. I am a true functional
practitioner because I evaluate your function through the tool of
manual muscle testing every single time you're in the office.
So we're always evaluating function and we're addressing whatever's malfunctioning
back to normal so that you restore and regain your function.

(34:56):
What the healthcare industry has done, especially in the medical profession,
is doctors have decided to call themselves functional medicine practitioners,
where they order expensive tests to pad their care. You know,
they may order a test that's fifteen hundred dollars that's
not covered by insurance so that they can understand exactly

(35:17):
what's wrong with you. And then what I have seen
in my experience by talking to the people that have
tried to go that route, they're still given the same
prescriptions when all the testing is all said and done,
so they really haven't changed everything. They've just simply stopped
accepting health insurance. They've charged a lot of money up front,
and they're still prescribing the same medication.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
So by the time you're in and out of the office,
nothing is really shifted.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
Nothing is shifted because you're still being put on the
same medications you would have been put on had you
gone to a quote traditional medical doctor who's not billing
themselves as functional medicine doctor.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Well, this is a very important conversation we're having today. Doc,
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Speaker 6 (36:12):
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(36:44):
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Speaker 1 (36:51):
So inlight of everything that we're talking about today, what
should you do if you want to be healthy or healthier?

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Well, invest in what it takes to be healthy. Don't
ever stop. You will be happier, and I assure you
you will function and feel better.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Now. You mentioned earlier in the show about eating correctly
and exercise and good sleep and drinking plenty of water.
Those are the very things I learned in kindergarten or
elementary school. Are those the most important things towards having
good health? Well?

Speaker 6 (37:25):
Those rules mark where you learned in elementary school. Those
rules are elementary, hence.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Why they were taught. Then those are the.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Elementary foundational rules. You need to eat quality food, you
need to drink water, you need to get sleep, you
need to exercise, you need to keep your head on straight.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
All of those things are very very important for overall
health and wellness.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
So what can I avoid needing medical help if I
do just those things I have?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'm sixty now.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
But aren't there more things that you do to keep
your health?

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Yeah, but I do all five of those things every
single day, and I haven't been sick in over thirty
five years. And I just turned sixty. And you know,
I don't show any signs of slowing down. Why because
I continue to be proactive with my health. I continue
to do the right thing. I eat quality food, I

(38:21):
drink plenty of water, I exercise, I get quality sleep.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Do you know, But isn't there more to being proactive
about your health than just those five things or those enough?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, those can be enough.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
It just depends upon what levels of stress, what your
job is like, what the job requires of you, et cetera.
You know, the person who has a sedentary job is
going to need some activity to offset their sedentariness, Versus
somebody who is very physically active in their job. Maybe

(38:56):
the physical activity during their job is all the exercise
that they need, so they don't need to necessarily run
out and go to the gym afterwards after they're done working.
But somebody who sits behind the desk all day, they
should probably have a gym membership, or they should probably
have some exercise equipment at home to where they can

(39:16):
do some physical activity just to help offset the consequences
of their sedentariness.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
So there's a I mean, there's a big difference between
a health maintenance program and health care.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yes, there is a big difference.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
And so if you are trying to do if you're
trying to maintain your health, you can do those five
basic things that you were talking about, but you might
need to be do other things. And really it's not
necessarily enough to do everything by yourself. This is why
healthcare professionals like yourself exist because there are sometimes when

(39:52):
you need some other assistant, some other advocacy to help
you guide you in that process.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
Right, So, maintenance care is about maintaining your health versus
caring is about taking and receiving some level of care
from somebody with a concern. So my job is to
empower people, to educate people, and to support them in
their process of wanting to recover, regain, or maintain their

(40:22):
current level of health so that they can just continue
to live a healthy lifestyle for as long as they
want to live a healthy lifestyle. And your health is personal.
How long you choose to live and the quality in
which you live those years is entirely up to you.
But when you don't understand that and you have a

(40:43):
problem and the choices that you make in your lifestyle
are contributing to that problem, it's important to get the
proper guidance, in the proper expertise in order to understand
how to turn that ship around headed in the right direction.
And once it's in the right direction, it doesn't take
much to maintain it. Like I said, probably seventy five

(41:05):
percent of the people that I see I see once
a month.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I mean, there was a you were originally thinking about
becoming cardiac surgeon. And when you go through that medical training,
there's a long period of first of all the schooling,
then you have to do an internship, you have to
do residency, you have to spend quite a bit of
time to develop the particular skills that would be required

(41:32):
to say, be a cardiac surgeon or to be an
orthopedic surgeon. So in that the person that is doing
that is devoting an enormous amount of their lifetime to
the process of just being able to get the skills
to where they can actually apply them right.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
And that's because it's very very you know, intense, it's
very complex. There's a lot of back around knowledge that
goes into understanding a person who's an expert or a specialist.
You know, had I gone to medical school and become

(42:10):
a cardiothorastic surgeon, which would have been spectacular, but I
chose to go to a different path because I would
rather prevent heart disease rather than deal with it in
life and death situations. I think that's done tremendous for
my overall health and wellness and my own sanity. But

(42:31):
when you go to any kind of school where you
go through training in order to become an expert at
what it is that you're doing before you go into
the profession itself of applying the expertise that you've been
trained in, there's a lot that goes into that. And
there's two types of practitioners that I have seen, and

(42:51):
that doesn't matter just about health care. It matters with
any profession. Okay, you have technicians. Technicians do what they
do because that's what they've been taught to do and
how to do it. Whereas a master knows what to do,
knows what not to do, knows when to do it,
when not to do it, and can help the person

(43:12):
take ownership of whatever it is that they're going to
help them with.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
So if you have a master chef.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Versus a short order chef, okay, a line cook is
different from a master chef.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
Somebody who is a guy that mows lawns is different
from somebody that is a landscape artist okay, And so
you have different levels of understanding and different levels of expertise.
What I've spent my whole professional career is learning advanced

(43:46):
healing techniques that are natural that help to restore balance
to the body by asking questions at a level that's
different from traditional medical tests to understand the mechanisms of cause,
and by applying these different techniques to the person that's
sitting in front of me in an effort to help
explain not only what's wrong with them, but why it's

(44:08):
wrong with them, and then what it will take in
order to get rid of the problem once and for
all and empower them to take ownership of their health
and their life. That's very, very rewarding, and it's something
that I plan to do. I don't know for as
long as the Good Lord allows me to do it.
My intention is to do it for at least another

(44:29):
ninety years.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Which is great. You mentioned tests, and I just wonder
there are so many medical tests that are now available.
There's so much The quality of what the medical technology
is is quite incredible. MRIs and the different scans and
things like that. Will those things help somebody in a

(44:52):
profession like what you do. Is that a valuable tool
for you as well?

Speaker 6 (44:57):
Oh, it's a valuable tool for anybody who wants to
That's a particular individual.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
I had a gentleman come in to me recently.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
Was he was airborne military, So he used to jump
out of planes and he used to have an eighty
pound pack on his back and he would hit the
ground and he'd have to roll and he would jettison
his pack just before he hit the ground kind of thing,
but he had to carry the pack after all those
kind of stop, drop and roll kind of things.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
And he brought me his.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
MRIs from his years in the military and from since
he's been in the military, and to look at his
MRIs and see the issues that he has, and it's
amazing that he's able to continue doing the things that
he can do based upon the level of deterioration as
seen on his MRIs. And so sitting with him and

(45:50):
going over his MRI and showing where he has the
issues that he has because the doctors that they told
him what was on his MRIs, but he never actually
saw them. So going over them with him that was,
you know, was important for him to see. And it
was important for me to help convey to him the
level of issue that he has, which is why he

(46:12):
has the symptoms that he has, and helping move him
out of that particular circumstance. And so anytime somebody comes
to me, it's my job to use my expertise, regardless
of whether they're doing specialized medical testing or not. I
know how to interpret the tests. I've gone through training
in order to understand radiology and interpreting X rays and

(46:36):
MRIs and cat scans and all of those kinds of things, and.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
You have a different way of evaluating things like blood work.
So if you look at somebody's blood work that they
might have from a doctor, you look at it with
a lot more scrutiny. I would say.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yeah, I have a patient right now who has lots
of metastatic disease throughout his body, and the oncologist and
the medical doctors aren't answering the questions sufficiently for my patient.
So when I'm done with this show today, they're coming
into my office and we're going to go over the

(47:11):
blood work, and I'm going to break it down from
them and help them understand what from a health standpoint,
not from there's the crisis because he has metastasis in
his body in multiple areas. I'm going to help him
to understand what the lab results mean and what he
can do to help himself while he's going to be
going through the process.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Of what they're going to want him to do.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
And so I work with people to help them focus
on their health, which is ultimately what they want to
get to. They have a journey that they're going to
have to go through in order to recover their health
or to maintain their health, and it's my job to
walk with them and to give them advice that's going
to allow them to take back ownership of their health,

(47:55):
regardless of whether they have advanced stage metastasis, whether they
have advanced stage four pancreatic cancer, whether they have bone cancer.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Whatever the case happens to be.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
You know, they had a heart attack, they had seven
stints put in their heart, whatever the case happens to be.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I just want to help a.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Person back to health and give them advice on what
they can do to recover their health. And as long
as they're interested in helping themselves, then them being in
my office is one hundred percent appropriate and we're going
to help them to the best of our ability.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
So would you consider yourself a healthcare generalist because you
you know, like the old country doctor who you would
see you knew your family, was there when you were
born and there when you're you know, through your whole life.
Is that the type of practitioner you are versus the
specialists that you know, versus the cardiac thoracic surgeon that

(48:47):
you might have.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
Been well, I would say I'm a combination of both.
I am a health care specialist in the fact that
I specialize in all things that are health related. But
I'm a generalist in the sense that I need to
understand generally how the body's supposed to work and whether
it's working or whether it's not working, and to give
people advice and give them insights and understandings as to

(49:09):
why their body may be malfunctioning. So I don't necessarily
have the term for me. I'm an alternative medicine specialist,
meaning that I practice things other than medicine. I'm an
alternative to medicine. That's basically the term that quantifies what
it is that I am. Anything that I do is
going to be something that doesn't involve medicine or surgery,

(49:31):
and there are times where I have to refer somebody
for medical intervention or surgical invention.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
When would that happen?

Speaker 6 (49:39):
If one of my patients breaks the bone, I'm going
to send them to a North spetist to get the
bone set, but I'm also going to advise them on
nutrition as to why their bone broke and what they
can do to strengthen the bone so it doesn't break.
Because where if you've broken one bone, there is a
likelihood that you have a deficiency that allows you to

(50:01):
break the bone, and that means that you could possibly
break another bone. So good, we need to get involved
and make sure that we give the body the nutrition
that it needs to maintain and strengthen the bones that
are there.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
So, I mean, if health insurance won't protect us, what will.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Education?

Speaker 6 (50:22):
Understanding living a proactive lifestyle and the choices that you make,
and the understandings that you have in terms of what
it takes to maintain and live a healthy life. And
once you understand and start living a lifestyle that is
healthy and is going to promote health and it's going
to maintain the health.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Once you have all of that going on.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
Then you just keep your focus there and then you
don't have to worry about having problems. I don't ever
worry about getting sick. I don't ever worry about having
some kind of health issue because I don't live a
lifestyle that's going to do that.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
You know, but you see a lot of people who
may be coming into your office who are sick. Yeah,
so you're exposed to a great extent to a lot
of different pathogens and sicknesses, and still as long as
I've known you, I've never known you to be sick.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Right, And at the end of the day, the truth
of it is is if you have a good, strong
immune system, then your immune system has the solution to
whatever it is that you're being exposed to. When there's
a new pathogen out there, like COVID. None of us
had been exposed to COVID before, so it was going to.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Create a problem.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
The way they went about it, I don't necessarily agree
with how they solved it, which is why it took
basically three years in order for us to get over it.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
You know, it should have been like what we used
to do with chicken pox. Somebody in the neighborhood got
chicken pox.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Good, all the kids went over to that person's house
and hung out with them, so that they could all
get chicken pox at the same time and they could
all get over it at the same time, and then
you never had to worry about it. Well, now they
don't do that. Now they give out vaccines. It run, uh,
you know, it's it's I don't like the direction that
healthcare has moved into. They're trying to you know, one

(52:08):
size fits all everybody, and and uh, you know, come
up with universal solutions for the whole population. But you
know what affects you may not affect me. That's because
we're different, and what you need to do to maintain
your health maybe different from what I have to do
to maintain my health. Because we come from different backgrounds,
we live different lifestyles, we eat differently, we exercise differently,

(52:30):
we have different stresses, and so we have to help
you develop what's your plan for staying and maintaining your
health which would be different from mine.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
So if someone out there is listening and wants to
know what their plan should be, what are the best
ways to reach you?

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Best way to reach me would be to call my
cell phone directly. I give you my cell phone because
I am interested in speaking with you. That cell phone
number is area code eight four five five six one
two two two five again eight four five I six
one two two two five H. If I don't answer
the phone, please leave a message with your name and
phone number. I will call you back. I want to

(53:08):
talk to you. People are lazy. Nowadays we have this
thing called texting. Everybody likes to text because it's very
intrusive from my perspective. People will text me with questions
and I don't even know who they are because we
didn't go through an introductory process.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Can you help such and such? Yes, I can.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
You know it's like that that conversation doesn't go anywhere.
Let's have a conversation. You can email me directly at
doc Rick at spineboy dot com. And whether you call,
whether you text, whether you email me, or whether you
come see me at one thirty eight Canal Street, Sweet
four zero four of Building four hundred in Pooler, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
It would be my pleasure to help you to.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Better health and better understanding what the concerns you have.
So Mark's giving me the thumbs up that we're pretty
much out of time. I want to thank you for
tuning in this week. I ask you to tune back
in next week, same health time, same health station. This
is doctor Richard on tune from Advanced Alternative Medicine Center,
saying I'll look forward to supporting.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
You when you're health manager.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
See my physician, he said, you're definitely ill. Then to
the nurse. I've seen worse, but the doctor just.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Take one of those three times a day. Don't ever
stop until you're nearly dead or all the better keep
out of the reach of children. I think this that
might be some side effect, you mean, but probably will well,
limit of fact can't come back. And I'll give you
one another pill on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, and then he showed

(54:41):
me his bill. I popped another pill,