Episode 151: Recovering Health

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, you're definitely ill than to the nurse.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I've seen worse than the doctor. Just gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Take one of those three times today. You don't never
stop on till you're really dead er all with better keep.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Out of the reach of children.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
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mean probably will well, limits of.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Fact, you can't.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'll give you one out of the film. On top
of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, and then he showed me his bill.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years. To support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for

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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from Doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every

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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
You are listening to the Alternative Healthcare Network.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health Advocate, Mark Safe.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
If you've devoted your life to helping people recover their
health if they've lost it, if it's in decline, or
for people to manage their health, or for people to
maintain their health, and I wanted to talk to you
today about the idea of being able to regain your
health if you've lost and give me some insight on
how that actually works.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Well along the lines of a twelve step program. The
first step is to acknowledge your health is not where
you would like it to be or where it could be,
and then by taking action in which to change that
to be more healthy.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
So can you actually recover your health?

Speaker 5 (02:20):
You can recover from disease if you set yourself up
the right way and follow through. Absolutely you can recover
your health. And you have to commit to the process.
And it needs to become a lifestyle, not a you know,
a brief encounter with oh, I just need to get
out of this situation and then I'm better. No, it's

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a lifelong commitment.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I mean, because you advocate a lot of things that
you advocate, one of them is proactive, being proactive about
your health. So can you actually turn the disease around
simply by being proactive?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, I believe all disease can be turned around when
you turn your focus from disease and change the focus
to be about health and it will build from there.
But you know, there's a lot that goes on into
our quote healthcare system, and it's not about health, and
it's about getting you to focus on problems instead of

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focusing on your birthright. And my job is to is
to change the person's focus and change their perspective from
being one of disease and sickness to one of health
and optimism and you know, just having a better experience

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in the physical body as a spiritual being.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So when somebody comes to you and they have some
kind of a health condition, what do you do to
get them to change that perspective?

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Well, after setting hello and setting up two agreements, if
I say anything you don't understand, please stop me. And
if I say anything you disagree with, absolutely stop me.
Why because if I'm going to take you from where
you are currently to a place called better health, you
have to actually come with me. And if you disagree
or don't understand the methods, you will not get the

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results that you're looking for. And once I have those
two agreements, then we begin to understand their specific problem,
how it impacts their life, and what needs to be
done to address the underlying cause of the problem, not
just simply managing the condition.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, that's really interesting that you would require an agreement,
because I don't think if I go to a medical
doctor that the doctor is going to ask me to
agree with what they're doing. They're going to tell me,
here's what your problem is and here's what you need
to do.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, because their agreement isn't necessarily focused on that. Their
agreement is on getting paid, and so you enter into
an agreement with them when you hand them your insurance card.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
That is the agreement, and the agreement is is that
you're going to listen to whatever it is that they
have to tell you and what they recommend to you,
because that's what keeps the system flowing and keeps you know,
the money flowing.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah. I mean, it's not necessarily even the doctors that
are running those decisions anymore.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
That's true. It's the bureaucracy that is the health insurance industry,
and it's about making agreements that create the maximum amount
of profit possible.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah. I mean, I think when the whole healthcare turned
around to being about pharmacology and not necessarily, as you say,
it's not really about health, that shift in perspective has
really changed the direction of healthcare. And I know a
lot of people are thinking that, you know, what's broken
about our healthcare system is pretty extensive. This is one

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of the things that you're trying to turn that ship around,
at least with the patients that you see.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah, I'm just simply trying to change the focus from
being one of sickness and disease to one of health
and prosperity and thrive in life as opposed to struggling
in life. And you know, there was a wonderful human
being who used to have a radio show of all things.

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His name was Earl Nightingale, and back in the forties
he talked about you are what you think about all
day long, and in other words, whatever you focus on,
you're going to get more of that. So if you
are focusing on your sickness and your disease, you're going
to get more of that. If you're focused on being
healthy and doing the things that are going to support

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you to be healthy, then you can take any health
issue that you have and you can change the effect
of that to become one less and less and less
and less impactful negatively and start turning it into something positive.
As long as you have a will and a desire
to make things change for the better, God will give

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you the opportunity to do that.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Now. I remember when I was I think in kindergarten
or elementary school, I was taught that what you need
to be healthy is so you need to eat right,
you need exercise, you need to get good sleep, you
need to stay hydrated. Are those things? Are those factors
enough to bring somebody back into health.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Well, that will certainly support good health, but doing just
that with a current health issue will take significantly longer,
if at all, depending on the underlying causes of your concerns.
If you don't ever address the underlying cause, the effect
that you are experiencing is never going to truly go away.
That's why when one has got high blood pressure and

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they mask it with blood pressure medication, if you ask
your doctor how long you're going to be on the medication,
they're going to look at you like you have nine heads,
because they're going to be like, well, you have high
blood pressure, that's why you need your medication. But I
ask people to push the boundaries of that answer by saying, well,
how is the medication going to address the underlying reason

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for why I have high blood pressure? And you want
to watch your doctor's head explode? Ask that question, well,
I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Mean, there are plenty of different things that are dangerous
out in the world that we live in. I mean,
we have bodies, and bodies are vulnerable to injuries. I mean,
you can bump into something and get hurt, or you know,
a burn is an easy thing to come by. So
how do you defend your health against all the dangers
that are out there in the world that you might
not be able to avoid.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well by being proactive and delivered in your intentions, sponsored
by the steps you can take to prevent problems from
impacting you. I certainly do this for myself, and I
do it every day, and having been sick and over
thirty five years. And at the end of the day,
what I just said previously, you get what you focus on.
And so if your intention is to be healthy, and

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you surround yourself with things that are healthy and balanced,
then you focus on obtaining health and balance and put
all your intention into that, then that's exactly what you're
going to experience. And you know, I never word hurry
about the people that come into my office who bring
with them their germs and their sickness. I don't ever

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worry about picking up what they have and ultimately developing
what they have. So it's it's you know, you get
what you focus on, and so my intention is always
in this The purpose of this show is to get
people to focus on their health when their health matters.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, but I mean I know that you live an
extremely clean life in that regard. But even if you
do all that, I mean, you're still exposed to the
toxins and then the pollution that are in the world.
So you don't you have to contend with that, well
you do.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
And the thing of it is is if you keep
your liver clean and you keep your other filters clean
while you're navigating through the mindfield, that is the sea
of toxins that we live in, the impact of those
toxins is going to be less impactful if at all.
I'm not concerned about the top us and the you know,

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pollutants that are out in the air because I spend
time out in nature where the best purest oxygen is
being administered to the planet from the manufacturing plants that
we call plants, you know. So it's it's you know,
the more the more you can do to set yourself
up for success and make that your lifestyle, the more

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success you're going to have and the less time you're
ever going to have to worry about being sick and
having issues.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Mm hmm. I mean, there are so many things that
are contributing to the health conditions we see. I Mean,
one of the things is is what we're eating. So
if you simply start to change the way you're eating.
Let's say you're eating a diet that's not necessarily filled
with you know, fresh fruits and vegetables and fresh produce,

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things like that. How do you how do you? How
does what happens to your body as you make that
change and you start eating a healthier diet.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Well, things begin to change pretty quickly for the better,
even if you don't see the changes you would like.
At a cellular level, things are already beginning to change.
And the more consistent you can be with that the
good choices and the right kinds of foods and the
right amount of water and the right exercise, etc. The

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more consistent you are with doing that, the faster things
will change for the better. Your energy will improve, your
sleep will improve, your brain function will improve, and your
ability to navigate life will improve.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
What about your relationship with stress, Because it seems like
stress is one of the big factors in people's health declining.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Well, Stress is a personal decision. It is something that
people decide for themselves, whether something stressful or not. What
may stress one person out may not even create a
response in somebody else. And so I would take a
look at the things that you're choosing to see as stressful,

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to try to look at them objectively to determine whether
they are stressful or whether what you're doing with your
reaction to them creates the stress that you're experiencing. And
if you can reframe things and reassess how you look
at things, then you don't necessarily have to have the

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same outcomes, and then stress doesn't necessarily have to be
as impactful as it could have been.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, you know, one of the things I wonder, because
we talk a lot about being properly hydrated, what happens
if you're not? Does I mean, in order to handle
the stress? It would seem like one other things you
said about the filters of your body is you flush
things through your body. You're able to move things through
so they don't stick in your body, which is maybe

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one of the ways that diseases attached to you.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Right, So, the whole way that disease develops is by
not having enough resources. And we've said this countless times
on the show in the past, is that all health
problems are nutritional deficiencies, and there a lack of resources
that the body needs in order to maintain itself. And

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as a simple example to understand if you were to
if your car required ninety three octane in order for
it to run perfectly, fine tune piece of wonderful machinery
with no issues whatsoever, and then you will slowly start
to change the octane from the ninety three to ninety one,

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to ninety to eighty nine, to eighty eight to eighty seven.
What do you think would happened to the fine tuneness
of how that engine performs.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
It sounds like it would decline.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
It would decline, okay, And so the thing of it
is is if you're putting the wrong kind of fuel
in your car, meaning your system, then your system's going
to start to running regularly over time. So if you
can put in the right ingredients and do it consistently,
and that's not to say that you have to be
a puritan, but if you can do the right thing consistently,

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then there will be times where you can have a
night out or go off the ranch for a short
period of time and come back and plug yourself back
into your normal way of doing things, and your body
will recover from that quite quickly.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So is that those same resources that you're taking in
are those as important for getting the system to be
able to flush what you don't need out.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
There's a component of it that I would say yes to,
but there's a whole nother mechanism within the body. There's
a difference between how the body feel itself versus how
your body eliminates things that it doesn't need. And when
I put together, I spent six months studying with a
Chinese herbalist and we developed a program that we offer

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in the spring, and it's our twenty three day doctor
supervised detoxification program. And in that it gave me the
insights to understanding that there is a couple of different
pathways that have to be open and functioning in order
for your liver to detoxify, and if you're putting garbage
food into your body, like let's take diabetes as an example.

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Diabetes is not a pancreas problem. It's a liver problem.
And when your liver just regulates enough to where it
can't control and send signals to the pancreas the way
that it's supposed to, then the pancreas becomes disregulated and
overproduces insulin and you become insulin dependent, and your pancreas fatigues, etc.

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And all of that begins in the liver.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
So the result is that the pancreas is out of balance.
But it didn't start in the pancreas. Its started because
the liver is being overburdened by things like sugars and
foods that are not healthy.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
For you, and the fact that the liver is having
difficulty detoxifying and excreting the things that it needs to excrete.
And so what ends up happening is when the methods
in which the liver maintains its ability to detoxify, process
and regulate how things go on through the body, then
that changes the way that it regulates and controls how

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the pancreas responds to sugar.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Interesting, So I mean that's not I don't think that's
something that people normally think about. And we do see
that there's an epidemic of diabetes.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Right, and that's because we eat entirely too much crap
that causes us to disregulate how the pancreas functions as
a result of an imbalance within the liver.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Mm hmm. And I guess when we talk about it,
because we as the year goes on, you and I,
we deal with all those different organs at some point
in the course of the year, because there are particular
energetic times when the best results for treating something with
that particular organ happen.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
So that's I mean, that's a big part of what
our mission is here is to be able to actually
address for people the thing that they can focus on
in terms of their health, right.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
And so what typically how we were on the show
is is that we end up discussing topics that are
pertinent to the time of year that we're in, whether
it's associated with the month of the year, whether it's
associated with the season of the year. And as nature
runs its seasons, and it's expansion and contraction seasons that

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happen within the summer and the winter, as the energy
shifts in nature from growth to expansion to the end
of the expansion season and now things start to fall
from the from nature and then things shut down for
the winter. The body goes through a similar type relationship

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within itself, and so there's certain times of years that
you want to support the body, and there's certain times
a year where you want to stimulate the body, and
then there's certain times a year where you want to
let the body rest, and that also translates to a
monthly cycle, it translates to a weekly cycle, it translates
to a daily cycle, and it even translates all the

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way down to a sub minute cycle. And so we
don't actually see the energy flow. We can feel it sometimes,
but at the end of the day, nature knows what
it's doing. We're a part of nature, and just because
we have a highly evolved brain doesn't necessarily mean that
we have the understandings of how to not manipulate nature

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in a way that is detrimental to our own survival.

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Speaker 1 (19:47):
So if somebody comes to you and has a health condition,
and what do you do that first time that you
sit down with them to have that first conversation.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Well, ultimately we discussed their problem, how long they've had it,
and what CAUs and what makes it better, what makes
it worse, how it impacts their happiness, and what they're
willing to do to fully address that condition. And then
once we've understood all of that and I get their
sense of motivation to want to change their outcomes, then
we get involved in doing the physical evaluation so that

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we can understand exactly what's out of balance and then
more importantly why it's out of balance. And then the
most important of all is what we have to do
to remedy it once and for all.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
And don't you actually look at somebody and have the
ability to look at somebody and actually find health conditions
that haven't really become manifested in the way they would
to a doctor.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Well, yeah, because at the end of the day, you
have to lose sixty percent of normal functioning in order
to have a symptom in order to qualify for medical intervention.
So you have to lose sixty percent of your normalness
of how your body functions in order to get into
the healthcare industry and have your or third party payer

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insurance actually cover whatever the condition is. So, if you
were to lose sixty percent of your income before you
recognize the fact that you're now sixty percent lighter in
your wallet, would that create a negative.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Impact for you. Absolutely, yeah, it would.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Create a negative impact for everybody. But the challenge is
we don't necessarily equate our health savings account the same
way we do with our monetary savings account. And so
even if you don't have a savings account, but you're
living day to day and you're making enough money to
cover yourself, which is what a lot of people are

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going through right now, that doesn't make you feel secure. Ultimately,
we want to make a surplus enough that you can
open up a savings account and have a fund for
a rainy day or for an emergency or whatever the
case happens to be. And in order to do that
with your health, you have to get well above and

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beyond the forty percent threshold where you're managing a condition.
You want to move into what it takes to be
healthy and what it takes to feel healthy all the
time and jump out of bed in the morning with
energy and an exuberation for wanting to go experience the
present that God has given all of us in the

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new day that we experience.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I wondered you know when you talked about sixty percent,
one of the big indicators of health in decline is inflammation.
If you have would that be considered a symptom?

Speaker 5 (22:35):
If you go to the doctor, it would be considered
a sign. If they can see the fact that you
have inflammation, that's a sign of a problem. And what
we need to understand is inflammation is the first indicator.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But it's not a symptom necessarily. Well.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
It can be experienced as a symptom. It can create sure,
it can create pain, it can create tightness. Those are
all things that inflammation can create. But appreciate the cardiovascular
disease is an inflammatory disease that's chronic over time that
you will have for a number of years before you
would ever have your first heart symptom or have a

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thing called the heart attack, which is the number one
symptom for people with heart disease. But the disease process
has been building up for years. Interestingly enough, when they
do autopsies on sudden infant death syndrome babies within the
first year of life, and they do a autopsy all

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the way down to the cellular level, the cells of
a less than one year old baby, you are already
demonstrating heart disease.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
So is that inherited heart disease.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
It's inherited in the sense of what is being done
to the It's causing the child to have that level
of inflammation that's manifesting at a cellular level already that early.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
In their life.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
You know, it could be quote hereditary in the sense
that your parents were taught by their parents how to eat,
and now they're passing those habits onto you. And so
there's a lot of familial things that get passed on
not due to genes per se, although genes have a
say in the equation, but it's not the be all,

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end all part of it. There's a wonderful book called
The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton, who helped to
dispel the fact that your genes have the final Say, no,
it's not your genes that have it. It's your epigenetics,
which is about your environment and your belief system, and
how that turns on or turns off your genes, and
how that influences how your body presents itself as far

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as being healthy or being sick.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, if you have that kind of thing where you
have that epigenetic influence on you, and let's say you're
not one year old, but you're enough of an adult
like the people who are probably listening to our show,
is that something that you can actually change in your life? Oh?
Absolutely so. How do you go about addressing something like that?

Speaker 5 (25:14):
You change your environment and you change the components that
are your life to where you don't have a choice
but to do things differently. My experience has always been
that when it's so important for you as a spiritual
being to change the path that you're on, God will
make it so uncomfortable for you to stay in the
path that you're currently on that you will have no

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choice but to change your actions, and that will ultimately
lead to different outcomes. You know, if you keep going
to the same bars looking for a life partner, and
everybody keeps going back to the same bar, you're not
going to find the one that you're looking for, and
you may end up settling for one that you know,
but it isn't necessarily going to be where God would

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want you to be. And so if God forbid, the
bar burns down and now you have to go find
a new place to hang out at and you go
find a new bar, then you start to meet new
people and that opens up new doors.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Mm.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now I'm you know, I was thinking that I was
gonna ask about the hospitals being dangerous. I think bars
could be potentially a lot more dangerous than a hospital.
But it turns out that a lot of times people
are coming out of the hospital with diseases that they've
actually picked up while they were a patient.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Right, So hospitals are a dangerous place to go because
that's where all the sick people hang out and where
germs tend to accumulate and get stronger while the people
in the hospital battle for you know, ultimately end up
getting weaker over time. You know, when we put garbage
food in our bodies, our bodies become weaker over time,
when they become so weak that now you manifest symptoms

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on a regular basis, and they define it as a condition. Okay,
unless you change your behavior, that condition isn't going away.
If you're masking it with medication, you're setting yourself up
for surgery down the road. And there's no disrespect to
our healthcare system, but there's not a lot in the

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healthcare system that is truly preventative and is truly proactive.
They haphazardly will tell you that you need to eat better,
but they don't give you any suggestions on what that means.
They will tell you that you need to exercise, They
will tell you that you need to get better quality sleep,
but they don't ever actually give you the specifics of

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what that means and how to go about it and
how to incorporate it into your life. And I just
think that we can do a better job of helping
people to understand how to take full ownership of their
own bodies.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, I think that would be I mean a good thing.
And when you do that, I mean, how do you
work the balance between somebody that say, is on a
medication and maybe they want to wean themselves off that medication.
Or for somebody who's not yet on a medication but
once restore their health without using drugs.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Well, at the end of the day, if we take
the first example of the person who's onto medication for
a particular health and balance, if we start to support
that health imbalance to strengthen the body that's manifesting in
let's say, high blood pressure, and we address the cascade
of effects that ultimately leads to high blood pressure, and
we start to make that cascade function in a more balanced,

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healthier manner, then the blood pressure starts to regulate itself.
You don't need the medication if you're still taking the
medication and now your blood pressure is actually lower than
it should be. So you start to ratchet back the
amount of medication that a person's taking. As the body
improves its health, you'll get to a point where you
don't need the medication anymore. And that's where you need

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to have a conversation with the doctor who prescribed it
or with the pharmacist that dispenses it. And I've helped
lots of people ultimately come off of their medication, and
you have to respect the process and have to go
through the process in the right way. Otherwise you could
throw yourself into a health crisis. And that's not what
I want people to experience, certainly when they come into

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my office. So it's you know, it's a process. Everything
is a process. If you're starting out with less than
forty percent of normal functioning, it's going to be a
process to get you back to as close to one
hundred percent as your body is capable at whatever time
it is that you're putting that effort in.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, you also may have limitations because, let's say you're
living in an urban area, you may not have access
to the same kind of food ingredients that somebody that
lives on a farm or has a farmer's market or
something like that. So there may be extenuating circumstances for
a person in their life. How do you help somebody
that may be in a situation where they don't have

(29:47):
necessarily the same access that others do.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Well, we have to become a little intuitive in terms
of helping them to assess their situation for what it
is and to start taking action based upon what they
can do. Not necessarily have it look perfect, but what
little changes can you start commencing in an effort to

(30:12):
turn the ship around and start moving in the right direction.
That may be simply going for a walk every day,
that in itself may inspire you to take more actions. Okay,
if you're walking every day, well, then you may find
yourself drinking more water. And then if you're drinking more
water and you're walking every day, then now you want
to go to the next level. I need to put

(30:33):
better fuel in my body. So now I'm going to
randomly discover resources that I didn't even know why because
I wasn't even thinking about it in that way. And Heck,
I drive by this store every day and I never
even noticed because I never even went in. And now
that I've gone in once, I see that they have
a plethora of food items that are different from what

(30:56):
I would normally eat that may allow me to change
what's going on with my health. And at the end
of the day, here's the truth. I'm a pretty strong
spiritual person and my belief has shown me over the
last sixty plus years that if you'd set your intention
to do something, God will find a way to make
it possible for you.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, this now is you're in the realm of where
you spoke about it before. Where mental the mental focus
that you have towards health as opposed to the focus
towards taking care of a disease, changes things and how
you are. Oh absolutely. And then when you go into
the spiritual side of things, which is having the faith

(31:38):
or the trust that things are working out in their
best interest, in your best interests, that also shifts your perspective.
So is that the way that you approach somebody that
comes to you for healthcare.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
I approach the person based upon where they are at.
I don't necessarily throw them in the deep end of
the pool with all my knowledge and all my owner standing,
because that would overwhelm them and they wouldn't have any
idea how to bridge the gap between where they are
versus where it is that I'm asking them to go.
I try to be an example for people to see

(32:13):
as far as what I do to help maintain my health,
and I walk the walk, and I walk the talk,
et cetera. And so I try to meet people where
they're at. I really don't have a choice because if
they're coming in with some sort of situation, we have
to understand the situation and then talk about what it
means in order to transition that situation from one of

(32:37):
being one of crisis to one of being one of prosperity.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
So you know, because I mean, we've talked about a
number of people that you've dealt with that are in
the latter stages of their life or have some terminal disease,
and you support them in the process they're going through.
It may not necessarily take them off all their medications,
that may not reverse their entire situation, but you've had

(33:03):
great success in treating people in those different stages of
disease or.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Life right because at the end of the day, my
job is to be one who listens to where they're at,
empathizes with where they're at, and then gives them a
sense of hope as to how they can change their circumstance,
if in fact they're willing to change their circumstance. If
a person isn't willing to change, if a person isn't

(33:32):
willing to take action that's going to benefit them, realistically,
it has nothing to do with me. I'm a facilitator,
but I can't facilitate a brick wall to turn into
something other than the brick wall that it is. If
the brick wall has a desire to change, well good,
then we can do some urban renewal and get something

(33:52):
better out of the outcome that they currently have. And
that's just it. Back to the the first visit and
the first thing that I go over with them is
the two agreements. Okay, if I say anything you don't understand,
please stop me. And if I say anything that you
disagree with, absolutely stop me. Because I need to get

(34:13):
them out of their current state. And the way that
we do that is through agreement, and by making an
agreement and helping to define where it is we're going
and how it is that we're getting there, and it's
going to be different than anything you've ever done. But
if you're not prepared to do things differently, then you're
not prepared to get a different outcome and you might
as well just not waste your time.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, what if somebody is willing to go part way?
And I mean not everybody's going to be able to
make a substantial change.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
And that's just it. That's me meeting them at where
they're at. They're not ready to change their whole life.
But if I can shine a light on a part
that is accessible to them, and they are willing to
make a change.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Then once you make that change, then they'd be willing
to maybe add to that change by making another change.
And then that's the process of building somebody from forty
percent or lower in terms of how their body's functioning,
and moving them up into the high forties, low fifties,
high fifties, low sixties, high sixties, low seventies, and just

(35:17):
keep progressing up the scale to the best of their ability.
I have a friend of mine who when I first
met him, he had all sorts of blood sugar handling issues.
Why well, because he was a chef in his own
restaurant and so he was an eater, Okay, And now
here he is he has just finished his first marathon, okay,

(35:39):
and he's put the time, energy and effort into it,
and he loves his life, and he loves what he's doing,
and he loves the fact that his body is supporting
him the way that it is at the age of seventy.
And it wasn't anywhere close to being able to do
any of those things when I first met him twenty
five thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
So when you talk about process, that's that's that's what
a process is. Well, this is a fabulous conversation, Doc Grig.
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(36:20):
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Speaker 1 (37:13):
Now before the break, you are giving us the example
of a chef who had blood sugar issues and then
probably have weight issues at that time and now has
become able to run a marathon and has reached his seventies.
That process which you talked about, that was you said,
twenty five years that you've known him. How much of

(37:34):
that time is in the process of actually shifting your
health from one way to another.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Well, that's just it. You get to make your choice
as to which process that you're going to experience. Life
is a process, disease is a process. Health is a process.
If you commit to a process, you're going to experience
the rewards of whatever that process is. So are your
actions supporting you to take a disease process pathway or

(38:00):
are your choices allowing you to take a health process pathway?
And so you need to just understand what is the
process that you're actively engaged in, and any time you want,
you can change it for the better. And you know,
to see my friend, you know, complete a marathon, I
just have to make a little correction. He didn't run

(38:22):
a marathon. He walked a marathon, but he did it
with such enthusiasm, and he did it in I believe
he finished in a little over four hours. And so
he was able to walk twenty six point two miles
in just over four hours. Okay. And so it's again,

(38:47):
it's a process. He committed to the process, he went
through the process of training. He would call me or
text me every once in a while telling me what
hike he just finished and how long it was and
how long it took him and all that. You know,
here's a guy who had the issues that he had,
but his mom is going to be one hundred and
two this year.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
And so it's like, it's never too late to change
your potential outcome. You just have to make a commitment
to the process. And again goes back to what I
was just saying, which process are you actively engaged in?
Are you engaged in a disease process, or are you
engaged in a health process? And you can change your
process anytime you want.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Well, it would seem that if you have been on
a medical path where you are using medicine to help
you recover your health or to help you maintain your
health and you want to make that change, is there
are there any expectations that you might have about how
long that process might be or what your expectations would be,

(39:50):
if somebody comes to see you and has a particular
health condition, is there some way that you can I'm
not necessarily thinking generally for everybody, but if I can,
and let's say I had heart disease, and I say, well, okay,
if I change my diet and I do all these things,
am I going to be able to recover my health?
How long would that take?

Speaker 5 (40:10):
It's going to be a lifetime. However long that lifetime
is interesting. I'm reminded of a story as you were
talking about that and everything that we've mentioned. Gentleman who
had a physically and mentally handicapped child who was in
a wheelchair, and he noticed that his son got happy

(40:34):
and excited when he pushed him in the wheelchair, and
by pushing him in the wheelchair, his father that the
parent of this disabled child, started doing it more and
more every single day, for longer amounts of time, etc.

(40:56):
To the point where he was now running marathons pushing
his son. And he was doing it to give his
son that experience of happiness, and it saved him from
developing heart disease and having a heart attack and all
of those things that were waiting for him because of

(41:17):
his commitment and his love for his son. And I
don't care what motivates you to take better care of
your health. I don't care what steps you go through
in order to change your health. There are people who
get healthy that don't use my services or my advice
all the time. I'm not saying I'm the be all,

(41:38):
end all, but if you're within the earshot of me
by listening to this show and you want my guidance
to help you change your health outcomes and maybe get
you in the boat that I'm in where I haven't
been sick and over thirty five years, in spite of
the sick people that come in and cough, breathe, sneeze
and mucus on me. Yeah, my door is open, and

(42:02):
I'm happy to help anybody who wants that level of service,
who's really willing to make that level of commitment not
to me, but to themselves because their health has nothing
to do with me.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
And I think if you're going through this and you're
on a lifetime of medication and you have that, you
know that's sort of been the path that you're on,
and you want to change that because you don't like
that path. There are a lot of things that you
confront more that are beyond just changing the medication or

(42:35):
changing your diet, aren't there.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Yeah, there's lots of things that we can help people do,
and it's all an incremental change. And when you get
the first amount of change and then you add to
that change, then you start to create an outcome that
you never maybe dreamed would be possible. When I've helped
people get off their medication, invariably every one of them

(42:58):
is said to me the same thing, I'm so glad
to be off the medication. I didn't know this day
was going to be possible.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
And I suppose that one of the things you have
to deal with that people are on medication, because medications
come with so many side effects. Are there ways that
you can help somebody deal with that, not only the
getting off the medication from that standpoint, but also dealing
with the side effects from the medication while they're changing.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Well, at the end of the day, what I've seen
countless number of times over the years is when they
stop their medications, all of their side effects go away,
and all of the symptoms associated with the medication tends
to go away. And it's interesting that sometimes when you
go in for a particular problem and then you start
to take a medication, you start to get all these

(43:44):
different consequential side effects that ends up becoming your condition,
not what you originally went in for, and now they're
managing your symptoms, not ever once considering the fact that
maybe the medication or the combination of medica that you're
taking is what's creating the effect that you're experiencing every

(44:05):
single day. And so it's we're not meant to be sick,
We're not meant to be on toxic chemicals known to
have harmful side effects. If you put toxic chemicals in
a stream, they call that pollution. If you take those
same toxic chemicals and filter them through your liver and
your kidneys, they call that modern medicine. I don't see
how the difference between pollution and modern medicine really differ

(44:28):
all that much. We can get into semantics of how
medicine has helped people and it's extended lives and all
of that kind of stuff, but at the end of
the day, I don't think the creator had the intention
of us being on pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Well, weren't pharmaceuticals originally based on like herbal remedies and
the fact that they come from plants and that they've
just refined them to a much higher degree.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
That's part of how it started with, you know, homeopathy
and herbal medications and naturalopathy and all of those sorts
of things. And then you know, the Rockefeller and Carnegie
people came together and they started funding and sponsoring medical
schools that were going to teach the techniques, etc. That

(45:18):
the students were going to learn that was going to
allow them to make lots of money by dispensing the
petroleum based pharmaceutical grade medicines that have become so popular.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
So I mean, this is I mean, part of the
issue that you have is there's the public health crisis
of the fact that this is the way we we've
oriented our healthcare versus what you're doing, which is to personally,
one by one, take people and actually have them individually
turn their health around, taking responsibility for yourself.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah, have them recover their health and have them exercise
their birthright. And it happens one person at a time.
I don't need to change the world. I just need
to change an individual. And changing the individual actually does
change the world.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I mean, because when it comes down to it. Healthcare
is a very complex subject. The way our bodies function
is very complex. You've talked to me extensively about each
of the different organs and how they function and how
they take at the biochemical level and at the hormonal level,
and there's so many different aspects to it that you

(46:29):
have to consider and put together to actually treat somebody's health.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
And at the end of the day, that's true, and
that's the microcosm of it. But the macrocosm is is
just get people to take right action. If they take
right action and their head is on straight, then the
effects of that right action is going to manifest regardless
of You don't necessarily have to put in all this
huge effort in order to create change. You just have

(46:53):
to put in the right effort and you have to
be consistent with it. The Japanese have a premise called kitesen,
which is incremental change. If you change one percent or
even one tenth of one percent every day, at the
end of the year, you will have improved three hundred
and sixty five percent. And it's like, okay, so you
can get overwhelmed by three hundred and sixty five percent

(47:16):
to say that's just too big of a number. Well
not if you break it down and just do the
best that you can with where you are, with what
you have, and you commit to that process of doing
the best you can where you are, with what you have,
every single day, and then you will have the paradise
outcome that you've been looking for your whole life, and

(47:36):
it will just magically show up one day. It's interesting
when a person recovers from whatever kind of problem it
is that they have, and you try to say to
them when was the day that you realize that you
had recovered? And they'll be like, I didn't necessarily know.
It's just one day I know that I didn't have
my problem anymore. It wasn't a specific date or a

(47:58):
specific time where I said, oh, oh my god, I'm
better now. It's just the problem filtered to the background
and disappeared out of my awareness. And I don't even
know when it actually left, right, I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
You can't even tell. I mean, so if you, well,
let's say there are probably people that listen to our
show who may not be within range of being able
to necessarily seek out your personal personal visit with you.
How would somebody go about finding who the right professional
for them is. Well.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
At the end of the day, one of the services
that I offer to people that comes at no charge
to them whatsoever, is I will help them find a
healthcare practitioner who's doing enough of the right work in
the area that they happen to be. I also happen
to offer phone visits and televisits. I have people that
live all over the country that I have regular visits

(48:53):
with and they use me through my telehealth and through
my voice health to help maintain their health to where
they don't have problems. And it's just you know, well.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
What about I mean, you know, because people are probably
have so long lived with the kind of perspective on
healthcare that they have, and we're talking about an alternative approach,
something different than what they've been doing. How do you
find that way to shift somebody's perspective to see, you know,

(49:29):
what it'd be worth trying an alternative approach? It's not so.
I mean, I think a lot of the patients that
you see have tried every other possibility in a state
of desperation.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
Even there are many of those that are coming to
me out of desperation. There are also a new group
of individuals. And I love the new moms who have
you know, brand new families, and they want to get
their child started off the right way, and they've been
thinking about it and now they want to get somebody
to can help educate them and keep them moving in

(50:03):
the right direction. And you know, those are those are
great brand new patients that I'm always excited to see
because they have a thirst for the knowledge that I
can provide them with, and that's a very wonderful symbiotic
relationship to where everybody wins in the process. I have

(50:24):
a wealth of information that has no value whatsoever unless
somebody's sitting in front of me that can benefit from
that knowledge. And I just want to share the knowledge
that I have so that people can get the benefits
of applying that knowledge to themselves. And so it's a
passion that I have. And you know, you couldn't pay

(50:46):
me enough money to stop doing what I do for
a living.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah. No, clearly you've been doing it since I've known you,
which is probably over twenty years now, and we've been
doing this show for most of those years, and we're
always finding ways to dig into these health concerns that
people have that that people are not necessarily getting the
kind of help that they want with and being able

(51:12):
to turn their health around. And if somebody's out there
who might be thinking, well, you know, I'm listening to
this radio show, it sounds kind of intriguing. My situation
is different. My situation is unique. I don't think I
can necessarily get the kind of help that that Doctrick
could perhaps provide for me. But they're at least willing
to sit there and pick up the phone and maybe

(51:32):
give you a call, reach out to you and somehow
get some information, or visit your website and look at
the kind of information that's there. What are the best
ways to go about finding you and having that personal confrontation,
that conversation.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Well, best way to get a hold of me would
be to call my cell phone directly at airy code
eight four to five five six one two two two
five again eight four to five five six one two
two two five. If I don't happen to to the phone,
please leave a message with your name and phone number.
I will call you back. I guarantee you that you
can text that phone. I'm getting more and more involved

(52:10):
in texting. I really don't like texting because it's so impersonal.
But if you tell me who you are and what
you're texting me about, not just randomly dropping me a
text that asks the question and I don't even know
who I'm talking to, I'm happy to work with you
that way. Send me an email. I'm answering emails all
day every day, or stopping into the office where at

(52:32):
one thirty eight Canal Street in Pooler Park, that is
in Pooler, Georgia, or Sweet four zero four of building
four hundred. I'd be happy to meet you, probably give
you a brief health evaluation and set you up for
some success in terms of how we would move forward.
But whatever the case happens to be, I just want
you to understand you're the one who shut decides whether

(52:54):
you're willing to change or not. I'm offering you an
opportunity to change for your betterment, but you're the one
who ultimately decides. And you can keep doing what you've
always done and you'll never get any different results, or
you can do something different and I guarantee you'll get
a different result if you come to my office. And
so I want to thank you for tuning in this week.

(53:15):
I want to thank Mark for putting this show together,
and I'd ask you all the tune back in next week,
same health time, same health station. This is doctor Richard
on tune from an advanced alternative medicine center, saying, I look
forward to supporting you when you're.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Helping my position.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
He said, you're definitely ill. That's the nurse I've seen
worse of the doctor.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Just gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Take one of those to be time today. You don't
ever stop until you're.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Dirty, dead or almost better. Keep out of the reach
of children.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
I thinks that might be some side effect. Probably will
wells of fact. Just come back and I give you
what out of the pill, on top of that, on
top of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, and then
he showed me his bill. I popped another pillar head

(54:06):
out of their headache has become a pain in the butt.
What was just an itchy finger, now is the swollen foot?
Doctor ripe an out of breath and I've never walked
up a hill. Avoid all die from exercise. I'd rather
give you a pill, but brings some side effects. Being
the probably will weliverit, e fact, Just come back, and
I'll give you another pill. On top of that, on

(54:29):
top of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Top of that. Then he showed me his bill.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I popped another pill. I looked down the internet, checked
out the man if you'll sight and said, you may
not be depressive, but then again, you might be.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You're worried than you are