Episode 154: Medical Dangers

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, you're definitely ill.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Thanks to the nurse.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I've seen worse than the doctor.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Just gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Take one of those three times today. You don't never
stop until you're dearly diner. All better keep out of
the reach of children. The thing is that might be
some side effects, you mean, the probably will well. Limits
of fact, you can't come back, and I'll give you
another film. On top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, and then he showed

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me his bill.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years. To support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for

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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every

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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
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Speaker 6 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters. The
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center. And here's my partner for the show,
your health advocate, Mark safook Rick.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Why is a hospital such a dangerous place?

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Interesting question. Well, it's a place for sickness and results
in an environment that fosters sickness by all the sick
people spending time there, sharing their sickness.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
And so whire. So many people that are dying that
are going to the hospital.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Well, some of it's there, ultimately it's their time. Most
are the results of infections picked up while being in
the hospital and their immune system it's not strong enough
to survive the infections they acquire while being there. I
learned a long time ago that when you go into
a hospital, if you stay there for longer than five minutes,
your immune system starts to shut down.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Really, I mean, is it true that really ninety percent
of all the diseases out there could actually be prevented?

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Ninety percent? I would say, given enough time, all disease
could be prevented. And we have to change the way
we apply healthcare. And what point that we.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Apply it at.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
If we're waiting till we lose greater than sixty percent
of normal functioning before we intervene, you know that cows
out of the barn and down the street, there's no
point closing the door at that point.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, can we just eat right and exercise appropriately and
stay hydrated and get enough sleep and those things be
enough first to just keep healthy.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
And if we add proper breathing, and we should be set.
Except we don't breathe properly, we don't eat properly, we
don't exercise, we don't stay hydrated, and we don't get
proper sleep either.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
And so.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
If we were able to go back to that old
school thinking and living, then yeah, I would say that
that would be enough. I mean, that's ninety nine percent
of it is what it is that I do, and
I don't get sick, but I happen to be an
exception to the rule as far as society goes.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
You are certainly that. Now, what about reversing a disease?
I mean, not everybody starts out healthy can reverse a
disease without resorting to drugs.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
I do every day in my practice. In fact, we
help those who do the work get off their medications
and eliminate their disease altogether.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
M I mean, you can use apples instead of statins,
You can use cranberry juice instead of antibiotics, so you
use tumoric instead of and acids. Those are all different
things that you can do that can help you get
healthy without going to.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
Drug And that's one hundred percent true. You can do
all of those things, except that does not make money
for big farm and does not fit the narrative of
what you need to do to live life in this country.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
As you continue to get older.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, since people are living longer, we sort of expect it.
You know, we're also getting healthier and than previous generations
ever were Is that even true?

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Well, we do expect that, and the truth in many
respects as we are sicker and have more poor health
compared to previous generations, we're just sustained longer due to
the sustaining techniques that they employ.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Now. When it comes to treating with naturally occurring plants
and herbs, are they as dangerous to use as therapeutically
as drugs are?

Speaker 6 (04:54):
In most cases they can be more effective with no
side effects. But the art of nature and natural remedies
has been lost because of the pharmaceuticals and big pharma,
So that art has been lost, and so there aren't
a lot of people who have that level of understanding
or that level of expertise or that level of knowledge,
So it makes it challenging. You have to find somebody

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that's been at it that really can explain things to you.
If they can't explain things to you, then they don't
truly understand it.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, no, I guess. And all those things aren't necessarily
preventing you from getting sick. You're treating the sickness when
it's already occurred. So if you're doing all those things,
are are there things that you can do just naturally
through the diet or because we've seen now that GMOs
are becoming more prevalent, and they're trying to end hunger supposedly,

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but there are other problems associated with that.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Well, yeah, I don't know that they're ever going to
end hunger.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's probably not.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
It's it's been genetically engineered. You have altered nature and
will lead to more deficiency, diseases, and more sickness over time.
We just haven't been doing it long enough in order
to see the relationship.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Now you're seeing that in this world, we're seeing all
these electromagnetic problems. We're seeing things that were around all
these fields that are going on with the electricity, with
the devices that we're carrying, with the radiation that's happening.
Are these things leading to the problems that people are
having with their health.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Well, EMFs are harmful for those who are hyper sensitive
to them. I have several patients who react negatively to
the electromagnetic frequencies or the EMFs. One gets seizures when
they get overwhelmed, and one can't touch anything electronic. Another
person had to have a special classroom created next to
the school that he teaches in so that there's no

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actual electricity running to it in order for him to
continue teaching. So there's lots of considerations that people need
to understand. Most people aren't even aware of the fact
that holding onto their cell phone all day or sitting
in front of a computer all day has a negative
impact on their health. But since doctors don't typically look

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for it and they don't even understand it, there's no
traditional way that you can go about talking to your
doctor about that. He's just going to tell you to
leave your phone alone or stay away from the computer,
which really isn't a solution.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now, what is the deal with all these hospital born illnesses?
What are those coming from? What's precipitating all that development?

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Well, hospital born illnesses are the results of sick people
with various pathogens, all found in the same environment, breathing
the same air and touching the same surfaces and spreading
the same germs.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And so they're developing. We hear a superbugs and are
those the real problem or is it something else going on?

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Well, that's the story that we're being told. I've seen
it to be different from the germ theory that has
been prepared suited to have us believe that germs cause sickness.
Germs are associated with sickness, but they are the effect,
not the cause. Poor diet, poor intake of water, poor sleep,
high stress, all of that lowers one's resistance, and then

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the germ can exploit the system and get in there,
and because the person's in a weakened state, they will
then develop sickness as a result.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And those I mean those are in fact hospital acquired
infections that you're getting.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
They are.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
And so a person who is unhealthy to begin with
goes into a facility where sick people go to quote
get better, and the person acquires what's being passed around
and they develop a sickness as a result. And since
a person who already has the suppressed immunity, they're going
to respond with very poor results to treatment, and the

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pathogens that they have acquired are going to be resistant
to the treatments. And the easiest way to help a
person understand if they have these kinds of issues is
I would just ask the person to take their basal
body temperature.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
What is a normal basil body temperature mark?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
What is I mean where the basil body temperature is
the temperature like if you wake up in the morning, Yeah,
so it should be ninety eight point six.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Should be ninety eight point six is what we've been
told to believe to be true. And I can promise
you if you go into any retirement community, any seniors home,
et cetera, and you were to take the temperature of
all the residents that live there, their body temperature, their
basal body temperature isn't even above ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
How is that possible?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Well, as your.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Immune system starts to crap out because your body becomes
less efficient, your body's ability to regulate a normal temperature
becomes compromised, and so your basal body temperature starts to decrease.
And then when you get sick and you have a fever,
and you go to the doctor and they take your
temperature and they say your temperatures doesn't you don't seem

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to have a fever. Well, you didn't compare them to
what their normal is. You're just comparing them to what
the standard normal is. And these people aren't the standard.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
So rather than the actual temperature, you have to look
at the differential between.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
You have to look at what their normal basil body
temperature is, not what the one that you're getting in
the office. If anybody over the age of sixty five,
you could have issues related to your normal basil body temperature.
So what I encourage all my patients to do somewhat
regularly is to go home and take their temperature, see

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what it is using an oral thermometer, Okay, not necessarily
using the one that they point in the air and
you get a digital thing that may or may not
be one hundred percent accurate.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Not necessarily the one where they have you put.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
A patch on your forehead and it measures your temperature.
That way, get a good solid way of you taking
your temperature and understand. If you do it regularly, you
will understand what your normal basil body temperature is. And
then you will know that your immune system is suppressed
and things aren't working the way that they're supposed to,

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and then you can start to get in front of
it instead of the average person going into their doctor
and their doctor not even realizing that their immune system
is suppressed.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't even recognize it because you
don't necessarily feel things. I mean, we were talking to
a while back about blood pressure and the fact that
if your blood pressure is high or low, you can't
even tell the same thing going on now with what's
going on with temperature. But you can't even tell unless
I mean, if you have a fever, you obviously don't
feel well right.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
And so what people need to do, and people need
to become more aware of, is what is their normal
basil body temperature, not as what considers normal, but what's
normal for them, and having that level of understanding when
you go into the doctor and they try to put
you in the box that everybody is supposed to be
in because they judge everybody by the standard ninety eight

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point six, and they'll get take your temperature and they'll say, well,
you don't have a fever. Then you can ask, well,
what is my temperature? And if they say, well, your
temperature is, you know, ninety eight point six and you're
normally at ninety seven or below, then you actually understand
that you do have a fever. It just doesn't cross

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the threshold of what they consider to be normal.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
So in these normal checks that you get when you
go into the doctor and they take your blood pressure,
they take your temperature, they take your oxygen level, they
have those things that they're keeping some kind of record
up presumably, but it sounds like that's not necessarily providing
you any indication of what's going on with your health.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Well, do they typically go over what they find when
they take your blood pressure if it's quote not considered
a problem. Do they tell you, oh, your blood pressure's great,
or do they tell you, yeah, your blood pressure was
one hundred and thirty six over eighty five.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
They typically will tell you, I think what it is?

Speaker 6 (13:01):
And are they taking it in three positions or are
they only taking it in one? I've never had it
taken in more than one position, right, So they're not
actually completely taking your blood pressure. They're just grabbing a
point in space and determining whether you're considered normal or problematic.
But until you have something to compare it to, you
don't know how your body is responding to what is

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being done to it blood pressure. Just taking your blood
pressure in a seated condition position doesn't necessarily mean that
that's they understand everything about your blood pressure. The only
thing they get from looking at your systolic and your
diastolic is they ultimately only get a sense of what
your pulse pressure is, which is the difference between the

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upper number and the lower number. But unless you take
the blood pressure in more than one position, you don't
have any understanding in terms of how the body is
reacting to, you know, simple stress of gravity, the.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Simple stress of gravity in doubt. In that three positions,
do things like your pulse the differential in that pulse,
what's it called pulse pulse pressure, the pulse pressure, does
that change not?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Typically?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
So typically if your if your blood pressure would go.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Up, your blood pressure should go up when you go
from seated to standing, and your blood pressure should go
down when you go from standing to laying down, and
your pulse pressure should roughly remain the same. But your
systolic and your diastolic are going to subtly change, but
they should change at the same ratio, so that the

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pulse pressure should stay the same.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Now, if you go into the doctor and they unless
they see some exaggerated number where it's what they consider high,
they're maybe gonna give you and say, well, we got
to put you on medication. Are they going to do
any other kind of testing? Are they looking for anything
beyond just the fact that your blood pressure is signed?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Typically not.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
And if somebody was to come to you with showing
high blood pressure, what else would you look at? Would
you do? Well?

Speaker 6 (15:04):
I would look at trying to understand why their adrenal
glands or being dysregulated, and how the body's not maintaining
a normal blood pressure based upon the electrolytes that it's
supposed to have, and is the kidney clearing things the
way that it's supposed to do. You have a hormonal
imbalance that's impacting how your adrenals are functioning, And if
you do, then what's the reason for why that hormonal

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imbalance is occurring? What is actually affecting the functioning of
your adrenals. And so we're going to assess all of
that in the office during a normal evaluation to try
to understand what the mechanism of cause is so that
we can address the cause and then the negative effect
goes away on its own.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Because I mean, typically if you go into the doctor,
what they're going to do is send you in for
some kind of a scan or an X ray or
an MRI or or blood tests or things like.

Speaker 6 (15:54):
That, or they may just say, you have high blood pressure,
here's the prescription, and have a nice day.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Mm hmm. What wouldn't you want to have that treated?
Even if you're dealing with.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
That, the treatment is the medication from their perspective, mm hmm.
They've given you the treatment. The question is is are
you going to follow up with the normal question how
long am I going to be on this medication? And
then watch their heads explode because they're going to say, well,
you have high blood pressure, and you're looking to be like, well, yeah,
I don't understand why I have high.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Blood pressure because in their mind, it doesn't ever go
back to normal.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I don't know what they have in their mind.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
I know that they've been educated to believe that if
you have high blood pressure that if it gets too high,
that you could potentially have a stroke. So they're gonna
they're going to capitalize on that fear based mentality and
they're going to transfer that fear to you and they're
going to put the fear of God in you to
take the medication for every day for the rest of
your life and don't question anything. Why because you have

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high blood pressure? You come to my office. We're going
to try to understand, well, what are the stresses in
your life? How does your body respond to that stress?
Is it responding appropriately? Is there a delayed response, is
there no response? And if there's no response, then we
have a larger situation to deal with and it's going
to take a little bit longer in order for it

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to come back into normal. But at the end of
the day, if you're addressing the underlying reason for why
you have the dysfunction to begin with, then you should
be able to make it go away and you shouldn't
be tied to lifetime medication.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, that would be obviously a much better solution in
my mind than having to be on lifetime medication. Well,
this is a fascinating conversation, Doc Rick. We do need
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Speaker 1 (18:45):
Network, you know, I've heard about people that have been
like out hiking in the desert and things and get
stabbed by a cactus spine and some other kind of
minor injury and end up getting what's called sepsis. What
is sepsis and what is what happens to you when
you have it?

Speaker 6 (19:01):
That's an interesting change in direction of our show here today.
So developing a severe infection from a puncture wound is
possible for those whose immune system are weak to begin with.
It's definitely certainly possible.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
And so.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Acquiring sepsis from some kind of puncture like a cactus
spine is certainly possible because a you don't know what's
on the spine itself sitting out there in nature and
whatever pathogens or little tiny microorganisms or on the spine itself.
And now you get punctured with it, and it not

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only goes past the skin barrier, but it enters into
the tissue area, which is highly vascularized. So now you
have this thing that's been injected into your blood, so
to speak. And yeah, now you get an infection that
gets out of hand.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, because I mean it's even though that's a place
where you you might get it out in nature, but
don't people get that from being in surgery.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Not always.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
It begins with a response to an infection, and so
I guess we need to define what cepsis is.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Cepsus is a.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Life threatening medical emergency where the body's extreme response to
an infection causes it to attack its own organs and tissues.
Instead of just fighting off the infection, the immune system
goes into overdrive, potentially leading to organ damage, organ failure,
and even death if not treated promptly. And so, if

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a person goes in for surgery and they get sepsis
as a complication of the surgical procedure, that has to
do with an abnormal response to the way the body
should respond, but having a surgical intervention isn't a normal,

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run of the mill thing that people go through as
a normal sea of life anyway.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well, it certainly happens quite frequently that people do it.
I mean, I mean, why would a body overreact to
such an extreme way. I mean, I know plenty of
people that they get cuts or scrapes or whatever, and
you know, they just sort of brush it off and
don't do anything about it. They don't necessarily get an infection,
let alone one that causes sepsis.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Right, So when you get cepsis and an overreaction to
initial infection, that's a dysregulated immune response system due to
quite a number of different reasons and variations within how
the body's functioning. Suffice to say, the immune system isn't
responding in a normal fashion.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Right, And you said it could actually lead to organ
dysfunction or even failure.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yes, cepsis does involve the organs and the tissues, and
if that's where the infection is starting, then yes, the
organ would be dysfunctional and you could end up having
organ failure.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah. I know that there's a woman that is a
resident of the same facility where my mother is currently
and she lost both hands and both legs or feet
from the knee down due to a sepstis invention, and
you know, she continues to live and is continuing to

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be a great spirit. But I mean, what an ordeal
that somebody have to go through.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yeah, that is just so sad, and it's terrible that
the healthcare industry doesn't understand the state of humanity at
this particular juncture in our history and the fact that
we are becoming weaker and weaker and weaker as a
species and developing more and more and more exotic diseases

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as a result of us being weaker and weaker and
weaker and weaker.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
And don't you attribute a lot of that to the
fact that what we've seen is that we've lived out
with the decay and what's happening with the food that
we're getting, and the fact that we're using so many
prescription medications to try to combat the diseases that we're getting,
and the decisions that are being made for us so

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often are being made by bureaucracies like the big insurance carriers.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Well, yeah, I mean, there's a lot to unpack there,
and just appreciating the fact that if you are not
eating quality, real whole food that you are going to
develop some kind of deficiency of what your body needs
to regulate and maintain itself. And when your body has
gone to the point of letting you know that it's
passed the point of no return by producing an actual

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disase state from your nutritional deficiencies, you're going to need harsher,
more severe, more invasive procedures in which to bring the
person back to normal. If I could just get everybody
who listens to this show just to start eating better

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and taking good, high quality whole food supplements specific to
their situation, then we could avoid all the aspects associated
with getting old and developing these chronic diseases, and these
chronic diseases taking a toll to where now you have
to get radical medical intervention just to get you to
go home.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I mean it would be it would seem to me
that you have to interfere with that as early as possible.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah, why don't you start feeding your children at a
very young age and teach them the importance of eating
quality food and not just succumbing to the McDonald's and
the Burger Kings and the Chick fil A's and the
Starbucks and all the other crap places that people frequent.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's interesting.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
I have a Chick fil A that's I don't know,
about a mile and a half from my home, maybe
a mile, maybe a mile and a half, and there
is not a day except Sunday that the cars in
two lanes don't wrap around the whole building. And it's
just like, Okay, if the average person is so unconscious

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that they think that going to quote Chick fil A
is going to give them nutrition that's going to sustain
their body in a healthy fashion, they're already lost.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I mean, they're just filling their stomachs.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
Yeah, with something that has an emotional taste response that
shuts their immune system off, probably within the second bite
of eating whatever it is that they're eating.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
That isn't real, okay.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
And it's fascinating because in the town that I live in,
over the course of five and a half miles, there's
three Chick fil As. And it's just it's from my perspective,

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it's retarded. It's like when I drive from New York
from my office down in Pooler, Georgia, up to my
office up in Newburgh, New York. You know that's roughly
a fourteen hour car ride that I do up and
back every single month and have for the last nine years.

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It's interesting when I have to get off the highway
to get gas. On every exit there's fast food available,
whether it's Burger King, whether it's McDonald's, whether it's Rby's,
whether it's Taco Bell, whatever the case happens to be
Chick fil A. And every time I pull into a

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gas station to get gased, there's a line of cars
around all of those buildings. It doesn't matter which building
it is. They could all be across the street from
each other and down the road from each other, and
every single one.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Of them has a line.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
And it just.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
It amazes me the level of unconsciousness that our society
has and the lack of concern for the relationship between
what you're eating and the negative effect that it has
on your body and your health, and yet people still
continue to do it well.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
It's largely a matter of education, which is the whole
reason behind doing the show.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
And it's also a matter of people's habits. We have
a coffee place down the street from my office. All
they sell is coffee. That's the only product that they represent,
and it doesn't matter what time of day between nine
and five, there's always a double line going in and

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out of that place, and.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
That's for coffee.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
And it's like, Okay, what are we doing to ourselves?
The people are so addicted to their coffee that they're
willing to go to that business and they're willing to
sit in line for however long it takes for them
to be able to order their coffee. And they're so
happy to be able to order their coffee, and it

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doesn't seem to matter to them what the effect of
that coffee is going to be, or what the effect
of their Chick fil A is going to be, or
what their effect of McDonald's or Burger King's going to be.
So people are unconsciously doing things. Maybe they had a
feel good experience in their childhood by going to McDonald's,

(28:39):
so now as an adult, they want to get that
same feel good type of experience.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
So where do they go? They go back to McDonald's.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
But what kind of quality are you getting from McDonald's
Because there's no government oversight that makes sure that what
they're selling is healthy food. There's nothing that says that
what you're getting there is going to be healthy. And
we all know the stories, but yet we all still
make the same poor decisions, and then we wonder why
we have the issues that we have.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, I mean, wasn't there a fellow who decided to
do an experiment and actually made a film about it,
eating nothing but McDonald's.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, he had McDonald's three meals a day every day
for thirty days and saw the before and afters in
terms of what happened to his blood values and his
cholesterol levels and his overall health, et cetera. And Yeah,
not a good experiment, not something that I would encourage
people to do. But at the end of the day,

(29:38):
we you know, it's business owner's right to sell a product,
and as long as they have customers that are willing
to buy the product, even if it's poisoned, then why
would we get in the way of that?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Right? Yeah, Now, when you let's say you're now at
the point where you know all that's happened, you've waited
those lines, and now you're not feeling well and you
go to the doctor and you have to go in
for a bunch of tests. Now, are some of those
testing protocols actually harming the people that are being tested,

(30:17):
like with false positives? And that sort of thing.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
Well, it is possible that they will go down a
rabbit hole when they have a quote positive test that
ends up being a false positive. And it's interesting. There's
an interesting product that is sold. And it's never my
intention to promote these things, but my awareness and wanting
the listener to have an awareness. There's a TV for
a quote product called Colon Guard, and it's a box

(30:47):
that has a personality and he walks around and he
talks to you about how important it is for you
to do a col of Guard test to make sure
that you're not developing colon cancer and blah blah blah
and this that and the other thing. And at the
end of the commercial they talk about false positives and
false negatives, meaning that they're missing things or they're finding
things that aren't actually there.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
And it's like, okay, so.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
How are you supposed to develop any level of confidence
at the results. They're selling you a product that isn't
actually accurate and it's being sold on national television. And
why is that tolerated? Why is it allowed? I couldn't
tell you, right, And that's the thing. And so people

(31:31):
who are going to be paying attention to their television
and they're over the age of forty, so they need
to order their cold Guard tests so that they can
get a false positive or a false negative and not
necessarily know anything. But you spend the money on the test,
and you know, you get a false negative, and you
think that everything's fine, when in fact everything isn't fine. Well,
I don't understand. I did the cold of Guard test. Well, yeah,

(31:53):
that comes with false false positives and false negatives. You
evidently were one of those false negatives people, so you.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Slip through the cracks. On the other hand, you get
the false positive, and now you're getting treated for a disease.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
For something that you don't have exactly. And so what's
what's the the recourse for that?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I don't know other than getting into do.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
You get do you get to sue them for their
false positive or their false negative? False negative meaning that
I missed something that was actually there, or a false
positive that they administered a whole bunch of care for
something that I didn't have. Are their lawsuits that result
as a consequence of that.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I would think that would be one of the only ways.
And then your next few years of your life are
spent trying.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
To chase that down right in hopes that you die
before they actually come to a settlement, because that's the
wonderful world that we live in.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, Well, there are other things that happen where we're
getting things in, Like, like one of the things that
gets you use commonly is fluoride and toothpased. Does that
actually prevent the tooth decay that you're trying to get
rid of or avoid.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Well, what you need to appreciate is that fluoride will
ever stop you from having cavities. Fluoride is a toxic halide.
Fluoride interferes with your body's ability to actually function normally
as far as your immune system goes. And so when
a person has issues related to their teeth and they
go to their dentist and the dentist tries to say

(33:18):
that we need to we need to give you fluoride
in an effort to make your teeth stronger. That's something
that is not actually true, and that's something that has
known to create problems for people. We know the toxic
effects of fluoride, but there's nobody that's standing up and

(33:41):
basically saying that we need to change the way that
we practice dental care. And we need to stop that
from happening.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
And so it's.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
It's just sad that we've gotten to a point in
our society to where healthcare is is so dysfunctional that
I understand people not necessarily trusting the system that we have,

(34:12):
but not necessarily having an alternative, right, And that's the
whole reason why we do the show. I want to
make people aware of what their circumstances are and I
want to help them have a solution so that they're
not being pushed down the hallway towards more invasive procedures
with more traumatic consequences.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
And yeah, it's just it's it's a challenging situation to
be involved with every single day.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean, it's the mission to be able to try
to turn people's health around without going down that using drugs,
using medications, going to surgery, and presumably being able to
actually turn people's health around by using natural products, natural
food based products, using various forms of treatment that you've

(35:04):
developed over these last number of decades. Right, Well, this
is this is a good conversation to be having, Doc Greg.
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Speaker 5 (36:02):
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Speaker 1 (36:06):
So, when you're talking about treating people's health and what
you do and what other people do, how do you
balance the individual's rights with what the public health challenges are.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Support people to be healthy, get rid of the Food
and Drug administration and support locally grown organic foods with
zero pesticides, and watch people's health improve.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, I mean that's I mean, it's right now we're
sort of having to approach health as a purely personal concern.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Well, yes it should be.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
If you are well, you don't have to worry and
if you and that could translate to who makes up society,
I don't ever worry about getting sick, and I truly
don't worry about the sick people that I come in
contact with because I don't ever worry about getting sick.
And so when you're doing the right thing, and you

(37:00):
continue to do the right thing and you support your
body the way that it needs to be supported, you
don't ever have to worry about getting sick and having
these kinds of issues.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
So is there anything we can do collectively to improve
our health?

Speaker 6 (37:12):
Yeah, get rid of the FDA, stop big pharma from
producing pharmaceuticals, and stop consuming them as consumers.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
M h. I mean when you look at that, I
mean you have to sort of benefit the risk to
benefit ratio because so many people are not necessarily going
to follow that track.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Well, not if there's no risk to eating real food
and having no health issues as a result. I think
everybody would be willing to follow that tract. Why, because
there's you know, learn from the people that don't have problems,
don't continue to perpetuate the people who do have problems.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
One of the problems we have is some people don't
seem to suffer the consequences, or at least it takes
so long for them to suffer the consequences. You don't
see the results of what their bad habits might be.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Well, at the end of you know, as an individual,
if you're doing the right thing or not doing the
right thing. You know if you're sitting there plowing through
pints of ice cream that you're not doing the right thing.
You know that if you're drinking too much alcohol that
you're not doing the right thing. You know that if
you're eating foods that don't really have an expiration date,

(38:23):
that have an infinite shelf life, that you're not doing
the right thing.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Food.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
When once you pick food, it's going to start to
go bad, that's because it's been cut off from its
life source. When you have food that can sit on
a shelf for eternity and still be as fresh as
it was when it was manufactured, that isn't food anymore.
You shouldn't be eating that, and you shouldn't be relying
on that. And the sad part is I had this

(38:49):
conversation the other day, is that they will bonush you
at a grocery store to buy the crap food. They'll
send you a flyer with all the crap listed in
it that they want you to buy instead of bonusing
you and incentivizing you to buy real food. And that's
really the difference. If we stop making the crap food

(39:11):
and we only had real food and we produced enough
of it to feed the world, then we wouldn't have
the issues that we have. But I believe there are
three main manufacturers that produce all the food in the world.
Under the various companies that distribute the food that these
three main manufacturers produce the food for.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
We need to change that.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
We need to make it so that smaller organizations who
are doing the right thing can produce the food for
their local community and not have any issues. Instead of
having some big corporation come in and say your we
like your brand, we like what it is that you're doing.
We'd like to buy your company from you so that
you can have immense wealth because we bought the company

(39:59):
for you. And then we're going to change the company
and we're going to bastardize it. We're gonna squash it,
and we're going to replace it with our garbage food.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I mean, it does seem that there is a contingency
of people out there that are that are in this
battle to try to change the course of what's happening
with people's health. People like you, people like some of
the farmers that are around that are actually engaged.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
In the work right, and we need to buy local
and we need to support those farmers to continue to
be able to do their job. And the sad part
is is that, you know, I had this conversation the
other day too with somebody that.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
You know.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
I was aware of a woman where I used to
work up in Vermont.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I was aware of a woman.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Who she and three of her friends bought a cow
and they.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Had the cow on her property.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
They were feeding the cow, they were paying for all
of it, and she was, you know, taking the milk
from the cow and sharing it with the quote shareholders,
and the EPA came in and shut her down for
distributing milk without proper licensing. No, I was sharing the
profits with the people who actually are owners of the product,

(41:18):
you know. And it's just like, but you know she
had something like a fifty thousand dollars fine and that
was I don't know, ten, twelve, fifteen years ago. I
can't even imagine what the government oversight would do to
somebody like that nowadays.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
And it's just like, you know what, at.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
The end of the day, we need to be able
to have the understanding that we need to have in
order to take care of ourselves and not necessarily get
caught up in the systems that are incomplete and have
been corrupted and are there to create problems so that
you actually have to enter into the system of what
it is in order to repair those problems.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Well, that's kind of my question. Don't you sometimes need
to go down that.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Medical I guess you may have to at some point,
but if you do the right thing, I'm going to
say that, no, you don't have to. Why because I've
seen my own personal track record as long as it's

(42:21):
been to where no, I don't need to go. And
at the end of the day, I don't know that
you could pay me to go, because I don't know
that what they're going to ask me to do and
the methodologies in which they're going to ask me to
do it is something that I'm going to agree to.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Well, I guess there's a difference if you're agreeing. Like
let's say you had cancer and you're thinking about, well,
what's your options for survival and maybe you're going to
turn towards drugs and the radiation treatment, chemotherapy, things like that.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Well, if you go to the medical professionals, that's all
you're going to be offered, because that's all that they offer.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Are there alternative?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
There are alternatives.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
I've had many patients come to me with cancer at
various stages, and we've helped them to transcend and move
beyond what their current health situation is. And it's you know,
I don't treat cancer. I treat people and I help
them come back into balance. And the consequence of them

(43:23):
coming back into balance is the condition that they came
to me for they no longer have.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
And if you go to the medical treatments, there are
definitely consequences and side effects and all kinds of issues
that come.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
Along, right, and they've normalized it to the point where
people don't even question the fact that this is what
they're going to have to go through.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
So are there ways that in what you do that
you can improve somebody that's going down that path in
combination and work in conjunction with somebody that's going through
those kind of treatments.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
Absolutely, But the only way that's going to happen is
if they take the initiative to reach out to me
so that we can start a dialogue and have a
conversation and invite them into the office and determine what's
really going on with them and then addressing that issue.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I mean, there are so many things that we're facing
now that we have really no, we don't have control
over it because they're done on a societal level, right,
like the pollution in the air, or the medications that
are getting into our water, or the chemicals that are
in the environment that we're dealing with. How do you
address those things from the perspective of not wanting of

(44:34):
not having to turn into the medical world to try
to solve the problems that have resulted as that exposure.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
Well, what I do in the office in my office
is we test for all of those things, and when
we find that a person has that particular type of
imbalance like a BPA imbalance or like a GMO imbalance,
or like medication imbalance, etc. We will address the effect
that that's having on the body to support the body

(45:01):
to come back to its neutral balance point, and in
the process of doing that, people actually recover their health.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
They begin to see that health.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
Is certainly possible for them, and lifetime medication doesn't have
to be the only option that is made available to them.
But if they don't have the willingness, if they don't
even have the inclination to look for an alternative to
what's being told and what is ultimately lifetime medication on

(45:33):
your way to some sort of surgical invention, if you
want to avoid that whole path altogether, then you need
to talk to somebody like myself that has an ability
to break health down into what are the components that
go into keeping a person healthy? And then what do
you have to do to enter into that relationship with

(45:55):
yourself in order to never get sick?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Well, I say, somebody comes to you that is sick,
is on medication. I mean depending on what their levels are,
are there safe levels of the medications that they're taking,
And is that process of going from where they are
to where they might be able to be optimally is
it possible? Is it? What does that process look like.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Well, it's different for each person, but there are plenty
of people that come to me and they bring their
medications and they want to know if there's any way
to help them with their medication, to reduce their medication,
to eventually take them off their medication. And the difficulty
part of that conversation is is, yes, I can help
your body function better to where you don't need the medication,
but I can't tell you what to do with your medication.

(46:42):
That's out of my scope of practice. But I can
tell you that if you have I don't know high
cholesterol and you're taking a stat medication and you're ultimately
inducing a type two diabetes as a result of that,
I can make it so that your cholesterol comes back
to normal, you won't need the statin. You'll eliminate the
opportunity for you to create diabetes within yourself. But I

(47:06):
can't tell you to stop taking the medication.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
So how would I know to stop the medication.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
You would go back to your medical doctor and you
would see what your cholesterol levels are and you have
a discussion with them of what it would take to
get off the medication, because you want to see if
you don't need the medication anymore.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I mean, what's so interesting As I know you've had
a couple of conversations that we've talked about where somebody
has gone in their health has actually turned around, and
their test results that they get from the doctor that
they're seeing show that the test that their situation is
turned around, and the doctors don't seem to be receptive
to finding out what it is they did that made

(47:46):
the difference.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Right, And that's perplexing to me because if somebody gets
a result that I never anticipated, what's the national human question?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
What did you do?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
What happened?

Speaker 6 (48:03):
What did you do to get the results that you're experiencing?
That question is begging to be asked. When somebody gets
a result that you didn't anticipate, well.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
What did you do?

Speaker 6 (48:18):
That question needs to be answered in an effort to
educate the person who never expected, never fantasized, never even
fathom that that would be a potential outcome. I've had
lots of patience over the year with lots of different conditions,
whether it's gallstones, whether it's cancer, whether it's whatever, and

(48:40):
the doctors say, well, you're gonna definitely have to do this,
and you can go try to do anything alternative that
you want, but you're going to come back here with
your tail between your legs and you're going to beg
me to do the thing that I'm telling you we
need to do now. And they go back and they
don't need the surgery anymore, and the doctor doesn't ever
ask the question.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Well, what did you do?

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Just retarded that itself should be malpractice. Why because you
didn't take an opportunity to educate yourself on something that
you was beyond your scope of understanding.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, you wonder what the lack of curiosity is that
somebody that has that degree of sophistication in their knowledge
would not be curious to find out how somebody solved
the problem.

Speaker 6 (49:24):
It would be impossible for me not to ask the question.
And it just I'm dumbfounded by the fact that that
happens all day every day, where people don't ask the
right question and the real right question that everybody needs
to ask, regardless of what their diagnosis is.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Is good.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
If that's true, Tell me why that's true.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
But when you see somebody that's coming to you that
is maybe fairly far down a disease process and is
under medical care, do you ever see be a case
where what's happening with the medical care that they're getting
is actually helping their situation. And even if you can

(50:09):
interfere with it and try to move them back into
health where they don't need that medication.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
Well, you got to answer the question help at what level?
If you're talking about a symptom based help and you
can do anything to turn off person symptoms, but that
doesn't fix the cause, does fix the ultimate problem. You
get a person functioning greater than forty percent of normal,
they don't have any symptoms. In order to have a symptom,

(50:35):
you have to be less than forty percent of normal.
So if they're giving you a symptom masking medication that
hides the symptom that you have and you quote feel better,
the question is is are you functioning better? Is the
problem still? They are going to just eat away at
your longevity over time because you've been masking it with

(50:56):
toxic chemicals known to have harmful side effects. Are you
truly helping yourself or are you diving further into sickness
and disease?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Well, if somebody has that question, and somebody's out there
listening to the show and thinks. You know, that's really
an intriguing question and I don't know the answer to that,
but they'd like to explore it further. What are the
best ways to go out and reach you and find
out from your perspective what you might be able to
help them with.

Speaker 6 (51:23):
Well, my address is one thirty eight Canal Street in
Pooler Park or Sweet four zero four of building four
hundred that is in Pooler, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Come see me.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Let's do an evaluation, Let's have a face to face,
hands on examine consultation and understand what your circumstances are,
how it's impacting you and what we can do to remedy.
You call me directly at area code eight four five
five six one two two two five again eight four
five five six one two two two five.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
If I don't.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
Answer the phone, please leave me a message. I will
call you back. You can email me directly and take
as much time as you want in the email and
explain your whole life history and your story and what
you need help with, and I will read the whole
story and I will email you back, or if you
leave me a phone number, I will call you back.
But at the end of the day it starts with

(52:15):
you if you make a choice to want to take
a different path than what you're currently taking because it
isn't getting you where you want to go. I would
love the opportunity to meet with you see what your
situation is from a health standpoint, not from a disease
sickness standpoint, and what we need to do to get
your body to express more health and to eliminate the

(52:39):
quote disease. That would be my ultimate pleasure. There's nothing
more that pleases me than to be able to help
another human being, So I would welcome the opportunity. I
would ask for you to reach out either one of
those ways. And if you've learned anything about this your

(52:59):
health from this show, please tune back in next week,
same health time, same health station. This is doctor Richard
on tune from Advanced Alternative Medicine Center, saying, I'll look
forward to supporting you when you're health man.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
See my physician, he said, you're definitely ill. Then to
the nurse, I've seen worse.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
So the doctor just gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Take one of those three times a day. You don't
never stop on till you're nearly dead or all a
better teeth out of the reach of children. I thinking
there might be some side effects you be, but probably
will well limits of facts. Just come back and I
give you one another film on top of that, on
top of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that. And then

(53:41):
he showed me a bill. I popped another pillar out
of a headache has become a pain in the butt.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
What was just an itchy finger.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Now was the swolen putt doctor ripe an out of bread.
And I've never walked up a hill. Avoid all diet
and exercise.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I'd rather give you a pill.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
The thing is that might be some side effects. Reing
that probably will welimit to fact.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Just come back and I give you another pill.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
On top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that. Then he showed me his bill.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
I popped another pill.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I looked on the internet, checked out the medical site
and said, you may not be depressive, but then again
you mightn't worry than you are.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Then take this simple test.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Obviously, people who need a pill, you know how one
is bet The thing is that might be some side
effects or I had that before, I've been rushing back
to the doctor. He said, are you looking for more?
On top of that, on top of that, on top
of that,