Episode 157: Medicine Poison

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He said, you're definitely ill.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Thanks to the nurse.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I've seen worse than the doctor.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Just gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Take one of those betimes today.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
You don't never stop on till you're really.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
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the things that might be some side effects, you mean
probably will well. Limits of fact, you can't come. I'll
give you another film. On top of that, on top
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showed me his bill.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Welcome to When Your Health Matters. Your host is doctor
Richard Huntoon of Advanced Alternative Medicine Center located right here
in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
utilizing chiropractic and many other health techniques for the past
twenty seven years to support you when your health matters.
It's his intention to offer practical advice every week for

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you to consider and to apply in your own life
to make your life and the lives of your family
and friends healthier and happier. When you have questions, you'll
get your answers from doctor Rick himself or another expert
on the show. Being empowered to make positive health choices
before problem arises is the best way to approach health,
and doctor Rick promises to have information for you every

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week that will allow you to become proactive and empowered
to take control of your health and your life.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
You are listening to the Alternative Healthcare Network.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters, the
show designed to empower you to better health through knowledge
and education. And I'm your host, doctor Richard Untun from
Advanced Alternative Medicine Center, and here's my partner for the show,
your health Advocate, Mark stuff Rick.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's great to be back and to have another conversation
with you about people's health and what people can do
for their health without having to rely on something that
we have to look at pretty carefully because a lot
of people are taking a lot of medications, and a
lot of medications have these side effects. So we all

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know that our bodies are vulnerable and all sorts of
pathogens can happen, injuries can happen, and it's rare to
see an individual who may be able to be, you know,
like you have been, which is to not get sick,
but most of us do tend to at some point
in our lives get sick. You devoted your life to
that mission of keeping people healthy, helping people get healthy

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and maintain the best possible health. So how do you
help somebody whose health is already suffering.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, that's a great question. We start by understanding what
they perceive as being their problem and help them to
acknowledge accepting this level of function is not okay. Once
we both understand that accepting a health condition is not okay,
we need to look for the why behind the what

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that they're suffering from. Medicine is about symptoms, and addressing
symptoms will never address the cause. So we focus on
getting to the cause and making sure the person with
the problem understands their problem and begins to see what
needs to be done for the long term of their
health and the immediate remedying whatever their condition happens to be.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's kind of like getting a weed out by the roots.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, you definitely want to go all the way to
the end of the roots and don't leave any of
the roots underneath the soil, because then whatever you just
pulled out is going to grow back.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, So why do people have so much trouble getting
their bodies to naturally heal well.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Ideally they have bad habits and make poor choices and
continue to do what they know even if it isn't working.
Humans can be stubborn. We want the benefits without the
work and without the commitment.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
And so.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's hard to get a body to heal if you're
not willing to change what created the problem to begin with.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
And there are so many things that can go wrong
with your health. So when you're approaching somebody, how do
you help somebody health?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, start with a choice to improve your health. Become aware,
become educated, and do things differently even when it's difficult.
The reward is better health and having no problems, and
it's certainly much better than having problems and having to
worry about problems potentially getting worse over time.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean, it seems that healthcare has moved shifted
really to be dominated by pharmaceuticals. How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, it was the business model, and it was ingrained
in society by mass advertising and controlling the education and
the administration of those methods. Back in the days where
medical schools were being formed, Carnegie and Rockefeller were the financiers,

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and they decided that they wanted to make profit off
the treatments that would be offered in medical schools, and
so they would fund the medical schools as long as
they were willing to teach the methodologies that were going
to promote the use and distribution of those medicines so
that they can continue making profit.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
But that would make it seem like there are a
lot of different methodologies that could be used to approach health.
I mean, considering that pharmaceuticals are the one way that
they've really dominated, and you don't use any pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I don't use any pharmaceuticals. And so what they were
interested in doing, and what they've done a very good
job at over the last one hundred and twenty years,
is they've created resistance to anything that doesn't revolve around
prescription medications and ultimately surgical interventions. And so they did

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their best to suppress chiropractic. They did their best to
get rid of homeopathy, they did their best to get
rid of naturalopathy. They did their best to get rid
of any methodology of healing that didn't involve drugs or surgery.
The typical medical philosophy, So.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Their philosophy seems to be more like a military philosophy,
like go in there and destroy whatever it is it's
in the way.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, that's the mentality, and the sad part is is
that the collateral damage that is created from their form
of intervention is highly We as a society are highly
aware of that, simply because of what is legally required

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when they advertise a medication, they also have to list
the major side effects.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Which are longer sometimes in the cure they're offering.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Correct And so what we ultimately have to appreciate is
that every time you agree to take a pharmaceutical, you're
also agreeing to accept the side effects that come along
with that medication. But that again is assuming that you
either are aware of the side effects yourself or the

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side effects have been explained to you before you accept
the medication. And very rarely does anybody take the time
to talk about the negative consequences of taking the solution
that they're offering, because that would be counterproductive to administering
the solution.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
But also seems like by the time that you get
that medication, you're pretty far down the sickness path. So
I mean they're waiting to treat somebody till pretty late
in the equation. So by that point you're probably thinking, well,
the benefit I get overweghs outweighs the side effects.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, what you need to appreciate is that that is
the only time a third party insurance will be willing
to pay for the care. Care to maintain wellness and
health is not covered service using the health insurance that
one has. So doctors will wait until someone is really
sick before treating them because that guarantees that they can
get reimbursed for the care that they're administing from a

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third party like a health insurance company.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
And so.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
We need to understand that having health insurance for many
people is important. I personally don't have health insurance and
have only had it for one year of my adult
life because the health insurance that actually did nothing for me.
So what I decided to do is take whatever the
cost of my health insurance would be. I chose to

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invest that directly into my health so that I wouldn't
have health issues and therefore I would never need health insurance.
Health insurance is there for a crisis, just like your
car insurances or your homeowner's insurance or workers compensation, insurance.
All insurance policies are there for a crisis.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
You hope to never use them, right.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
And so if you have health insurance in case of
a crisis, that's perfectly within your right. That's going to
do nothing to help you maintain your health because it's
not designed to help you maintain that's right.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
You go to the mechanic to fix your car, you
don't go to your insurance company to mix your car. Right. So, now,
one of the things that you say about these medicines
that they are toxic. I mean, they're all chemical derivatives.
They're not like herbs or other things or homeopathic remedies.
Why do you say that they're toxic.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, it's because they are. They are chemical substances unnatural
to the body that have harmful consequences that we call
side effects. What is unclear about that is that it's
pretty crystal clear. The commercials don't even hide this fact
and are required to share the information, and no one
pays attention, and they continue to take it. You know,

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when one of the side effects of a popular medication
could be death, I've heard that, and yet it's accepted
to still be distributed. When a potential consequence at any
time for the individuals taking that medication is it could
cause their life to come to an end. Why would
anybody say yes to that? Why would anybody, you know,

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buy a lottery ticket that that's the outcome.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
That you could potentially have.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I don't know that anybody would buy a lottery ticket
if it means that they the winning of the lottery
is that you die.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
It sounds like some television shows that are going on
these days. Yeah, no, I mean, but I mean, isn't
isn't the idea of killing off a pathogen a reasonable
solution for some things?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I guess what we need to understand is healthcare doesn't
kill off disease. You manage it, you treat it. Killing
off a pathogen with harmful consequences is the problem, and
we need to do better. So when you take an
antibiotic to get rid of a bacteria, you destroy the

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microbiome and you create a dysbiosis, which now makes your
digestive system more permeable to leaky gut and eventually developing
chronic long term health conditions as a result of taking
an antibiotic. Taking an antiviral has its consequences. Taking a
medicinal anti parasitic comes with its own consequences, and so

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you just need to understand, well, what are the consequences
of taking the quote pharmaceutical solution, and what are those
short term and long term side effects that are the
consequences of taking the medications. And if you're not interested
in experiencing those things, then you're going to have to
look for a better solution that doesn't come with all that.

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And that's the arena that I work in. But most people,
they assume that their doctor is prescribing them a medication
that is regulated and controlled in such a way that
it's only available through subscription. And if the I'm sorry, prescription,
if the doctor is prescribing it to you, that the

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doctor's already vetted out the medication as being the most
appropriate for your condition. I want to tell you, in
a perfect world that would be the case. In the
world that we live in, that's not even close to
the case.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Don't someone medications help extend people's lives.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Extend people's lives in what regard.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well that I mean, if you have a terminal diagnosis
where something's going to kill you off, and you take
a medicine and keep you alive. Isn't that isn't the
person's benefit.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, there are some who claim that yes. And for
someone who doesn't take medication and hasn't been sicken over
thirty five years, the solutions are out there and need
to be first choice, not last choice, when all else
has failed. And so when we reach for a medication,
that should be because you've exhausted everything that you can
do that doesn't involve medication. Excuse me before you start

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taking the medication.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Resort if it should.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Be a last resort instead of it being offered as
a first resort. And so when one has high blood pressure,
you need to look into the reason for why you
have high blood pressure. Just don't immediately jump on blood
pressure medication. When one has diabetes, look for the reason
for why you develop diabetes. Don't just simply jump on
the medication. When one has high cholesterol, look for the

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reasons for why your body's producing excess amounts of bad cholesterol.
And don't just simply rush to take the medication because
a lot of times, once you start the medication, you
can't get off of it.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So how do you balance the benefits with the risks
involved in.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
This educate yourself and then make the best choice. Research
alternatives and find all your options. Before committing to the
one that may be the most convenient, you want to
find the one that's going to address the issue and
address it in a way that allows your body to
come back into balance, similar to how your body was
before it went out of balance.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
So, if somebody comes to you and is already taking
some kind of medication and is having side effects because
of the medication, are you able to do anything to
help them deal with that?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Oh? Absolutely I can, and have for over thirty five years.
And the thing of it is is if a medication
is causing a side effect that's essentially similar to an
allergic response to the stimulus of the medication, and so
we would do a treatment specifically for the medication to

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the person to find out why it's creating the side
effects and what's being short circuited. We would reset the
circuits that are being corrupted by the medication so that
the body can then tolerate the medication. Why we help
them to get off the medication.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now that must mean that from your perspective, there are
different ways to fight off whatever the underlying disease that
caused them to take the medical in the first place. Oh.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Absolutely, feed the body what it needs and stop ingesting
poisons being passed off as food. And so we need
to be more mindful of the food that we're eating
and what's been done to the food before we consume
that food.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Is it real? Is it natural?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Or has it been bastardized in some way, shape or
form with artificial flavors, artificial colors, you know, the chemicals
that they add to our food in an effort to
make it look more edible. As far as the way
that it looks, you know, you go, it's funny. My

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wife and I went into a grocery store one day
and I went over to grab some of the vegetables
while she was grabbing the fruit, and she came over
to where I was and she was just like, what
are you doing. I said, I'm just deciding on why
what we're going to do to replace the fact that
we're not buying this particular vegetable today. And she's like, why,
there's plenty of them. I said, yeah, but take a

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look at them. And I handed her four or five
and I said, what do you notice about them? And
she says, well, they all look exactly the same, and
I was like, exactly, none of what's in this bun
bin here of all these particular vegetables are real. It's
all been genetically engineered.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
It's not natural. It's not real food anymore.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
And while I'm not buying us fake food in an
effort to help keep us healthy.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So even though it's grown on a plant, you're saying
that it's been doctored somehow to use a term.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
There, that's fascinating to use that terms.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, it has been doctored in a way. And you know,
you pay attention to what's going on in our society,
and you need to read labels and you need to
understand what those ingredients are. Because there's a lot of
food manufacturers right now that are using crickets as a
form of protein in the foods that is being sold

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at the grocery store. And I don't know anybody that
would go out into some kind of field during the
summertime and go out of their to grab crickets and
then bring them in the house and grind them up
and you know, maybe add some liquid to it to
make it, you know, drinkable, and then and then drink

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that nobody in their right mind would do that. And
so my understanding is, and what I've seen by looking
at labels in various grocery stores, is that some of
those cricket quote proteins are being added to the foods
that is being sold and is being you know, pushed

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and marketed in such a way. Why because the people
who are behind the scenes, like a Bill Gates, are
trying to find new ways to make mass amounts of
money at the same rate of as destroying the health
of the people that are consuming it.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, this is a really you know, this is a
sort of a dark turn for our culture. But you know,
these are the things that are happening, and this is
why we're having this discussion. But we need to take
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
So since we're talking about the way that medications have
effect on p people and you don't rely on medications
to treat people, how do you approach health?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, Mark, I approach health from a health perspective. What
is healthy, what happens when things are working in a
healthy way, and how do we maintain that level of
health going forward. So everything that I do to approach
health is about restoring health and is about maintaining health
as opposed to focusing on treating disease and managing conditions

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that go on forever. My primary focus and my commitment
has always been about restoring health and then helping people
adopt lifestyles and behaviors that helps them maintain their health
so that they never get sick, and so that I
don't feel so isolated and alone being the one individual

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that I'm aware of that never gets sick.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, and so how do you foster your ability to
heal yourself? Well?

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I eat well, I exercise, I do my best to
get proper sleep.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I drink plenty of water, and I make all of
it a priority.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I mean, those are basic things that I learned in
elementary school.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Those are things that you learned in elementary school. Why
did they teach you that in elementary school?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Probably because they would be in service of the rest
of my life.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
They would be in service in the rest of your life.
And at what point in your life did you forget
to do those things?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, I don't know that I ever necessarily forgot to
do those things. But then other things seem to have
the effect of deteriorating your health, even if you're doing
those to the best of your ability. As you were saying,
you know, the food sources that we're dealing with now
have been declining in their quality. And if you go
to the grocery store, which you know most of us do,

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with what most of us do a fair amount of shopping.
The majority of the stores are packaged foods, so they're
already been processed, and a lot of times you buy
foods that have been pre cooked.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Right, And so are you doing that of convenience because
you don't want to take the time? Are you doing
it because you don't have the time and it's not
a priority. And if that's the case, then you need
to rearrange your priorities so that getting quality, healthy food
is something that you're doing every time that you eat,

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you're you know, always carry a jug of water with
you and make sure that it's good quality water. Not
your purified waters, not your filtered waters, but you know,
our tegen well water, mineral water, spring water. Those are
the kinds of waters that you should be drinking every
single day. And you want to make sure that you're

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drinking the appropriate amount for your size and weight, you know,
which is one court for every fifty pounds you weigh.
Every day, you want to find time in your busy
schedule to exercise and make that a priority. Because a
body that moves freely because you've trained it to move

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freely as a tendency not to get sick and not
to develop problems, and you want to make sure that
you get rid of all your electronic devices a couple
hours before you would choose to go to bed, that
way that your electromagnetic frequencies aren't still resonating with you.
And when it's time to go to bed, your brain
is in an off position as opposed to which you know,

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you just put down something that you were scrolling on
and or being actively engaged. So you want to take
the time to understand what it takes to take care
of yourself and to give your body the opportunity to
be the highest functioning organism as it can possibly be,
instead of succumbing to the pressures of life where you're

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not doing the right thing. You're cutting corners, you're trying
to find substitutes of what you should be doing, simply
because you can't be inconvenienced by the perception that it's
inconvenient to be healthy.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, I think at different stages in life, people do
different things. I mean, it's very typical for young people,
say in their college days and stuff, to party and
to drink and to try experimenting with drugs and things
of that nature. And then as you sort of move
into the career mode. In the middle phases of your life,

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you may be so dominated by all the obligations you
have to satisfy your career obligations, family obligations that you
stop having the time that would it would take to
focus on some of the things that you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
And I'm going to let your audience in on a
very important piece of advice. Don't do that. Don't try
to keep up with some arbitrary thing that you're expected
to do because either you've created that perception for yourself
or you've brought in into somebody else's perception because you

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know they've been at it for forty years and you're
starting your first year and you want to be where
they are now, and that kind of stuff and put
added pressure on yourself. Take the time to organize your
life in a way that is the least amount of
stress is possible that still allows you to maintain your lifestyle.

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You know, don't buy something if you can't afford to
pay for it. Don't put it on credit thinking that
it'll give you a certain amount of time in order
to pay it off and hope that you're going to
be able to do it at that time. It's like,
you know, I remember when I got my first job
and I knew what my paycheck was going to be,
and it was you know, I was committed to the

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job and committed to getting the paycheck. And then I
looked at the money that I was making, and I
looked at what I wanted to do, and I had
to figure out how to pull all the things that
I wanted to do out of my my paycheck so
that I wasn't living above my means and now having
to go to credit cards and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
And I remember it.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Was interesting when I decided to buy a brand new car.
I didn't tell anybody that I was buying the car.
I was at the time living at home, and I
was paying rent every month, and you know, just going
about my life, and you know, I had to commute
about an hour and twenty minutes to go to work
every day, and the car that I had was a

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relatively high mileage car, and I didn't want to get caught,
you know, on the side of the road with my
pants down because the car wasn't being able to be
maintained or just to simply run its course as far
as the life of the car. So I ordered a
car and went and picked up the car, and I

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remember driving at home and pulling into the driveway and
my mom looked at the car and she was trying
to figure out who it was. And then I got
out of the car and she's like, whose car is that?
I said, it's my car. She says, well, where did
you get the money to do that? I said, well,
I get a paycheck now, and I made sure that
I could pay my rent, which I've been paying here

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for a number of months, so I know how to
cover myself for that. And then I just figured out, well,
how could I, you know, figure out my car payment
and get a new car so that I wouldn't have
to worry about my car, so I can go to
work and earn you know, my salary, etc.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
And not have to worry about things.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
And so so many people come out of school and
they have the burden of their student loans, or if
they went to a trade school, they have whatever goes
along with trade schools. I never went to a trade school,
so I don't know, but I imagine they come with
the same kind of responsibilities to go into college does
and you know, then you have to essentially start from scratch.

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And when you have a job and you're making a
paycheck and you're going to commit to the job and
have a consistent paycheck, then you can start to figure
out how to plan. But so many people come out
of college nowadays and they think that they're entitled. You know,
I came out of school with a doctorate, and I
know that doctors quote make a lot of money. But

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I also knew that I didn't really know anything about
running a practice. I didn't know about anything about, you know,
patient communication. I knew how to be a doctor, but
I didn't know how to do but being a doctor.
And so I went through a whole learning curve there.
And you know, once I opened up my own business
and started working for myself, it was very challenging in

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the sense of making sure that I wasn't overextending myself
and biting off more than I can chew before I
was ready to do it. And it's it's interesting now
that I've been in business for forty years and I
get phone calls every day, probably four every day, about
some funding company telling me that they just need a

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couple more pieces.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Of information directly from.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Me and my funding will be approved and I can
appreciate that there are people out there that would be like, oh,
if I could just have some funding, that would take
a lot of pressure off my shoulders. And I'm like, no,
having the funding that you're going to eventually have to
pay back with an interest rate attached to it.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I was talking to somebody who were out to dinner
and they were talking about what their mortgage rate is,
and I just feel so blessed that I purchased my
home when I did, and my mortgage rate, my loan
rate is two and a half okay, and people are
looking at six, seven and eight now, and it's just,
you know, that's just And my mortgage company keeps sending

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me messages every month saying you could take the equity
out of your house and think of all the wonderl
things that you could do, And I'm just like, there's
not a chance in hell I'm going to put that
burden on myself. I'm already trying to get rid of
the mortgage. Why would I extend the time that I
have to deal with that stress. And so you have
to make decisions, and you have to understand what you're
trying to do, and you have to be mindful of Okay,

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what are the short term and what are the long
term effects, both positive and negative, and then make the
decision that's best for you. And that's with your health,
that's with your family, that's with your job, that's with
getting a car, that's with buying groceries. Are you living
above your means? Are you living at your means? Are
you living you know, to where you have a little

(29:30):
bit of surplus every week or every month.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, if you've been living your life and you may
have not been able to handle all that in advance
of the time of this conversation, and now you find
yourself with some kind of problem, some kind of health problem.
Now I need to come see somebody. So I'm going
to call you up on the phone and say, Doc Rick,
I've got this health problem. Can you help me? And

(29:56):
where do we begin that conversation.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Well, we begin the conversation from the very beginning. When
they come into the office. We're gonna sit down with them,
we're going to do a consultation. We're going to find
out what's actually going on with them. We're going to
through the examination, we're going to assess them, and we're
going to help them to understand what all the relationships

(30:19):
are that go into their problem. Are there emotional components,
are there, toxicity components, nutritional components, allergy components, structural components,
physiological components, and for those who are open, are there
even spiritual components wrapped up in their issue? And we
have the ability to assess every single one of those

(30:41):
facets and develop plans to address them in the way
that the body wants to be addressed. And then once
we have that recipe, if you will, for their wellness,
then we.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Just start.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Moving through the recipe and knocking things off and re
establishing balance and harmony, increasing their health quotion, and eliminating
their sickness quotion, and eventually they get to the point
where they don't have any issues because we've gotten rid
of all of them.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
So if I came into you, and let's say not
even on a prescription medication, I've been using over the
counter anti acids or painkillers or something like that, and
I've been using them, and I use them every day,
and that's how I've sort of been coping with the
stress of my life. Am I able to stop taking them?
Do I just go cold turkey? Do I have to

(31:31):
wean myself off of that. What is the process?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, I can't answer that until we do an evaluation
and we understand why you have your indigestion, that you're
requiring some kind of antacids that you're taking on a
regular basis, and the fact that you've been doing that
for a chronic period of time indicates that the problem's
been there for a chronic period of time. And so

(31:55):
doing an evaluation to understand, well, what are again, what
are the components that go into that condition that you have.
And once we've identified all the components that contribute to
your body producing that symptom, we're going to prioritize that
to understand, Okay, what is the biggest contributor to that

(32:16):
problem that you have, what's the second biggest contributor, what's
the third biggest contributor, and however long their list happens
to be. And then my job is to address each
one of those components that feed your problem. And as
we eliminate what's feeding your problem, then your problem.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Will go away.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
If you're taking an over the counter medication, then you
won't have to take it anymore. If you're taking a
prescription medication, you may find that you don't need it anymore,
but I can't advise you on what to do with that.
I'm going to send you back to the doctor that
prescribed it, and I'm going to have I'm going to
give you the questions that you want to ask your
doctor to see what it takes in order to get

(32:56):
off of it.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
So, since you can't tell somebody if they're on a
diabetes medication or a heart medigation, or blood pressure medicating,
whatever it might be, you can't really say you need
to get off of this thing. But and I know
you've told me stories before about people have gone in
and whatever the condition that they originally had the medication
for seems to have abated from the tests that come

(33:21):
into the doctor, and the doctors are not necessarily on
board with that.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well, at the end of the day, it just becomes
who who are you seeing as a practitioner. Are you
seeing somebody that truly understands the relationship that you are
the CEO of your body company and you're looking to
find an employee that can help maintain how your body

(33:46):
functions and understand that you're the CEO and they're the employee,
even though they're quote the doctor, And if they're not
doing what's in your best interest, if they're violating their
hippocratic oath to first do no harm, and you're being
harmed by the care that is being offered, certainly through
the medications that come with side effects, then you may

(34:09):
actually have to fire your doctor. But I'm not asking
you to go to that length. I'm asking you to
work with your doctor and help them to understand that
you're doing all these things to help make your situation improve,
and you want to know that now that your situation
is improved, if you're taking blood pressure medication and your

(34:30):
blood pressure is improved, if you're still taking the medication,
then your blood pressure is going to be forced to
a level that's lower than it should be. And at
that point, the doctor who takes your blood pressure should say, Wow,
your blood pressure's really low. We need to either reduce
or eliminate your blood pressure medication altogether. Let them see

(34:50):
the results, let them then determine for themselves that they
have to make a better decision.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
But I've had.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Highly respected medical doctors that you know, you get a
patient better and they don't need the medication anymore. And
the doctor basically tells them we're going to double your
medication because they're feeling threatened that they're going to lose
that patient or they're going to lose that source of
income from that patient.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
And it's.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
We have to be reminded of and we have to
find healthcare practitioners that understand that A First, do no harm,
and B I'm your employee and I'm going to do
whatever I can to maintain you. Know, you employing me
by giving you the right advice and treating you the
right way and helping you recover your health and then

(35:41):
using me to help maintain that recovered health.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well, this is a great, a great way to close
out our second section of our show today. Before we
go into the final final section of our show, we
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Speaker 1 (36:43):
Network, so as we're talking about the changes between an
approach to health where you're using medications and not using medications.
If you're sick and you need help, is there another
choice other than using medication?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
There's always another choice. Medicine manages and masks symptoms of
the problem and does nothing to correct the imbalance. Looking
to understand the mechanism of cause and then addressing the
cause is always best, but we don't Our healthcare system
isn't oriented that way. Our healthcare system is what do

(37:19):
we have to do to make the person feel better
as quickly as possible, and that's when they use the
pharmaceuticals that come with harmful side effects. And so it's
never been about the doctor addressing the underlying cause. So,
as a consumer of your health, when you go into
a healthcare office to get help for your health. Let

(37:45):
the doctor recommend whatever it is that they're recommending, and
then you just simply want to ask them the most
important question, which is why why are you recommending that?
Why do I have my problem? Is taking your recommendation
going to get rid of my problem? Or is it

(38:06):
just going to create the illusion that my problem is
gone and it's something that I'm going to have to
end up doing for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I don't know that somebody.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Wants to make a commitment to taking medication that comes
with harmful side effects for the rest of their life.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
But you said, I mean something that you said there.
You said it'll make me feel better. So it seems
that in some ways, if I go to the medical approach,
that's the thing I'm going to do. If I take
I have a headache, I take it. Ask when my
headache goes away done feeling better? But that's not your
approach to health. So in your approach to health, do

(38:44):
I immediately feel better? Is there? Does it well?

Speaker 4 (38:48):
For some people? Yes? For some people.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Know, if you've had a condition for forty years that
you've suffered with walking into my office, I'm not going
to perform a miracle and make the forty years of
suffering disappear overnight. Now, I would imagine that if you've
been suffering for forty years, then you still have the condition.
I'm going to imagine that you're already on medication because

(39:12):
you've been suffering for forty years, and I'm pretty sure
I'm not the first doctor that you've gone to in
an effort to find some kind of solution. But I'm
also pretty sure that if you're looking to me for
a solution, that you realize that what you're doing to
help your problem isn't actually helping your problem. It's just
masking it and making it seem less without ever actually

(39:34):
addressing it. So, if you come to me and you're
looking to address your problem, okay, I promise you we're
going to address your problem, And if you're already on medication,
I may not even ask you to consider stopping the
medication until we're far enough into remedying the reason for
why you have your problem, addressing the cause of your problem,

(39:58):
and once we've started to address the cause to where
your body should be able to sustain and support itself.
At that point, I'm going to ask you to go
talk to your medical doctor about what it takes to
get off this medication because you've supported your body in
such a way that you don't feel that you needed anymore.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Well, one of the things that you use in one
of the many methods you use is there are supplements
that you use which are basically food based. Now those
do those have any kind of side effects?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Well, you can look at that one or two ways.
They do have the side effect of you getting better,
that's the side effect. The other side effect could be
if you're taking the wrong supplement, which is why we
check everybody before we recommend the supplement that the supplement is.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Appropriate for their condition.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
But there are people that will self prescribe, and they'll
go to a G and C or a vitamin shop
or whatever have you to get supplements, and they will
buy something because they're trying to manage their your own condition.
And so if a supplement out there has a particular
label that says, you know, this is good for such
and such a condition, and you happen to have that condition,

(41:10):
and then you start taking that quote remedy that may
not necessarily be the right remedy for your situation. So
my job is to help sort through everything that you've tried,
including what you may still be doing, uh, to determine
whether it's going to solve your situation or not. And

(41:30):
if it's not going to solve your situation, then I'm
going to support the body to improve the health enough
that you no longer need to take whatever it is
that you're currently taking.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I mean, it sounds like it takes a lot to
be able to be healthy and a lot to try
to stay on top of that. I mean, if you're
you know, a lot of people are consulting doctor Google
today and trying to find out if that's where their
answers are lying. But that's not going to be the
right thing if your health condition is particular to you.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
A right So we started the show with understanding one
of the basics that we learn when we just start kindergarten,
as far as maintaining our health.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well, to eat correctly, to drink plenty of water, to
get good rest, good exercise, to sleep well. Yeah, those
are kind of the basic things that.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
You're So why would that change when you're in an
adult It shouldn't. Right, So, if your body has gone
so out of balance and you've neglected those five basic
practices that you were instructed to do from kindergarten first grade,
and you've let those things slack off and you haven't

(42:38):
put some attention on all of them, then I would
ask you to start putting attention on all of them,
and with my guidance and support, I will help you
get back to being healthy and we won't require you
to take medication. And then I will instruct you on
how to have a conversation with your doctor to reduce

(42:59):
and eventually eliminate your medication. Why because your body is
self sustaining and you don't need the chemical stimulants in
an effort to push or pull your body into being
quote symptom free. You will actually be functioning the way
your body intended and then you won't have any symptoms
at all without any of the pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
So, and I know that once somebody has gotten to
that point with their health and you move from recovering
your health maybe to maintaining your health, what does that
process look like.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Well, it's going to be different for each person based
upon what their lifestyle is and what the stresses are
and what they need to do to support it. I
have patients that similar to me take a boatload of supplements,
and they've determined over the years of being in my
office where they're asking questions, what can they do proactively

(43:54):
in order to prevent a problem from developing, and so
we recommend the appropriate supplements. I take a crapload of
supplements because I deal with sick people whose health is
deteriorating all day, every day, and I don't ever want
to participate in the lifestyle that they're participating in. So

(44:14):
I take preventative supplements to make sure that my body
has the ingredients it needs to never get sick. And
knock on wood, I haven't been sick in over thirty
five years, and it has to do with the choices
that I make. And so, long story short, everybody has
a choice. Everybody every day has new choices. And are

(44:39):
you putting in what's important to maintain your sanity, maintain
your brain's function, maintains your body's function, maintain your overall
health and resistance to acquiring disease as you go out
into the world with all the sickness that surrounds all
of us, or are you partaking in the cycle of
sicknesess and recovery and sickness and recovery and eventually having

(45:03):
sickness or having a health issue that you don't ever
recover from. All of that is a personal choice.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
That you get to make.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
If you don't want to have a life of suffering
because you didn't take care of yourself, then you're going
to have to do something about it. If you invest
in a program, certainly one that I can offer you
that's going to allow you to be healthy and just
maintain your health for the rest of your life. That's
what a great majority of my practice members do. They

(45:33):
come to see me for maintenance care because they know
how to care for themselves, but they can't do the
stuff for themselves that I do for them. So I'm
their employee that they come to for a monthly meeting
or a bi monthly meeting, or a weekly meeting or
whatever it happens to be in order for them to
maintain and manage their health based upon what their lifestyle is.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Well. One of the things about the approach to health
that you have is it not Health is not just
a physical aspect. There are a lot of dimensions to
your health, and you mentioned them earlier in the show,
and one of the things that you deal with is
that you put a lot of stock into the emotions
that a person has and how that relates to their health.
Could you talk a little bit about how you approach

(46:20):
person's health from that emotional standpoint.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well, we are emotional beings. Our emotions influence different organs
and different lands and how they function. So we address
those underlying relationships when it's appropriate.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
And I know that. Another thing about health, and you
talked about do you see people somebody comes in with
the health condition, not as the health condition, but as
the person. So one of those things that changes for
people is their attitude. How do you deal with the
attitude and the approach that you might take towards your
own health.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Well, I make sure the person is interested in the
same goal that I am in supporting them, and to
get well and to remain that way is is ultimately
the goal. And depending upon where a person is starting from,
there may be a long road back to wellness, or
there may be a relatively short roadback to wellness. But
believe it or not, it's my job to make it

(47:14):
as fast as possible so that you can just go
back to being somebody that's well and then you're going
to see the value in maintaining a relationship with me
so that you can continue to monitor and maintain and
prevent any problems from cropping up as one participates in
their life with their lifestyle and as they continue to age.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
So some of the problems that you may be encountering
are because you know, there's a lot of toxicity we
face just being walking around in the cities and places
we live. I mean the air pollutions, and there's pesticides,
and there chemicals, and there's medicines that get into the
water table. So how do you reverse the effects from
those things.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Well, you want to feed the person's body and support
them to take the right action to recover and restore
their health. And there are ways we can address the pollution,
the pesticide, the chemicals, the medicines, and what we need
to do in order to reverse that. But I can
tell you that God's first medicine was food, and so
making sure that you're feeding the body the right ingredients

(48:13):
that it needs in order to maintain itself, and in
the process of doing that, they're going to recover from
whatever it is that they're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So you're saying, really that in some way nutrition alone
it can be enough to actually help you restore your
health even when medications and drugs don't well.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, because nutrition is God's first medicine, and so supporting
the body to fill in the deficiencies that we have
nutritionally because of what they've done to our food and
the chronicity of eating that food that is nutritionally deficient.
It comes with consequences. So if you're eating McDonald's lots

(48:58):
of the time, if you're eating other fast foods lots
of the time, if you haven't had a vegetable and
god knows how long except maybe the pickle on the hamburger,
I would encourage you to come have a consultation. Let's
do a diet history. Let's pull your diet apart and
understand where the holes are in your diet. Let's see

(49:20):
how we can support you to get better quality food.
And in the process of getting better quality food, let's
enhance the whole program by giving you high food, whole
concentrated food supplements that is going to give your body
a boost to help fill in the holes within your
diet and within the body itself. It's manifesting in disease

(49:44):
so that the disease process disappears on its own, and
then it just becomes about building health.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
And so once you've built that health back, what goes
into that health maintenance program.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Well, it's going to be different for every person. For
somebody that still works a stressful job, they're going to
require more support than somebody that I don't know, sits
home and eats bond bonds every day.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, I suppose. I mean, if you're an emergency room doctor,
you have one level of stress. If you're working on
a roadside construction site, it's a completely different level.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Or if you're a cashier at you know, your neighborhood store.
You know, it's just everybody's going to find the level
to make their life go the way that they want
their life to be. And different people take on different jobs,
some for the excitement of it, some for the financial
rewards of it, and some just because that's an activity

(50:38):
that they like to do and if they can get
paid for it, then they'll be happy going to work
every day.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Well, I think that you know that this is one
of the things that you deal with in terms of
your practice, is that you look at everybody as an individual.
They come to you they're a person and you look
at all the components of their lives. I think we've
talked about the seven pillars of health that we've done before.
And if somebody is out there that's listening to our
show today and wants to get your input directly on

(51:06):
their specific situation, which is going to be different from
person to person, the best way to do that would
be to contact you directly, so you make yourself available.
What are the best ways to go out and reach
out to you?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Well, the best way would be to call my cell
phone directly. It is this little block black device that's
sitting next to me. The cell phone number is area
code eight four five five six one two two two
five again eight four five five six one two two
two five.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
You can text that phone, but I'm a little bit
slow responding to texting.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Getting better, but I'm still a little slow.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Faster way, believe it or not, would be to email
me at doc Rick DC ri c kat spine boy
dot com. Doc Rick at spineboy dot com. And yeah,
I mean you can call me, text me, email me.
You can stop into the office at one thirty eight
Canal Street in Pooler Park. That's uh, in Pooler, Georgia.

(52:07):
Whatever the case is, if you're dealing with a health
and balance and you're tired of dealing with it and
you want to get back into the game of life
and exercising your right to be healthy the way that
God gave it to every one of us, I'm happy
to help you.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Well, that's great, Douc Greg and I'm always glad to
have these conversations with you. We do it every week.
There's always a lot of information that gets shared on
these shows, and it's important if people are really looking
to be able to improve their health, and perhaps in
a way that they've never even approached it before, you
might be the resource that can help somebody restore their health.

(52:40):
So thanks for doing the show and I'll come back
next week. We can do it all over again.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Absolutely, so thanks for tuning in and we'll be back
with you again next week.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
My position, he said, you're definitely ill. That's the nurse
I've seen worse. So the doctor just came your pill.
Take one of those three times a day. Don't ever
stop until you're nearly dead er almost better keep out
of the reach of children, the things that might be
some side effects. You mean the probably will well limits
of fact. Just come back and I'll give you one

(53:14):
other film on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, and then he showed
me his bill.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I put another pill.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Dar head out of their headche has become a pain
in the butt. What was just an itchy finger? Now
is the swollen foot? Doctor ripe an out of bread.
And I've never walked up a hill.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Avoid all die from exercise.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I'd rather give you a pill, but bring them some
side effects, being the probably will well limit effect. Just
come back and I'll give you one.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Now the hill, on top.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Of that, on top of that.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Then he showed me his bill.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I popped another pill. I looked on the internet, checked
out the medical site and said, you may not be depressive,
but then again you might.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
You're worry than you are.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Then take this tipple test. Obvious, people who need a pill,
you know how one is best. The thing is that
might be some side effect, or I can that before
I've been rushing back to the doctor, he said, are
you looking for more? On top of that, on top
of that, on top of that, on top of that,
on top of that, on top of that, I grabbed
your mind instead of.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
My conducted on this, I came, I'm right here, little.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Game, you and the farmsticles on your medical school house.
You want to stay here? You push your pills, making
maximum again