Episode 163: Drugs

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Be my physician. He said, you're definitely ill.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks to the nurse. I've seen worse than the doctor.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Just gave me a pill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Take one of those three times today. You don't never
stop on till you're really dinner off a better.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Keep out of the region children. The thing is that some.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Side effects you mean, probably will well.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Limits of fact, you can't come. I'll give you one
out of the film.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
On top of that, on top of.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
That, on top of that, on top of that, on
top of that, on top.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of that, and many showed me his bill.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I've popped another pill.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
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in Pool of Georgia. Doctor Hantoon has been practicing alternative health,
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Speaker 5 (01:23):
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Speaker 6 (01:27):
Welcome to this week's show, When Your Health Matters. The
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Speaker 1 (01:41):
Greg is great to be back with you again. And
I was reading that seventy percent of Americans take at
least one prescription medication every day, and over half of
them take more than one.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
What is going on, Uh, simplify that would be big Pharma, Mark,
Big Pharma is doing exactly what big pharma does, which
is to support big Pharma. Anyone not participating is a
failure by big pharma. And we all need to appreciate
that fact. Big pharma is about making money. They're successful

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when more people are using their product. Therefore, there is
a considered effort to make sure that every person.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
On the planet is going to need.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Their product, and so they've sabotaged the food portion of
the FDA and they've enhanced the deportion of the FDA,
And we just all need to see that clearly and
understand that there's nothing that goes on within the healthcare

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system that is going to truly be about restoring your health.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean, big pharma is not the healthcare system. So
why is the healthcare system so focused on managing disease
rather than promoting people's health.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Well, it's supports make a lot of money by big pharma,
and by failing to address the problem and simply manage it,
it results in a big paycheck to big Pharma. If
you're managing your high blood pressure and you never fix it,
then you're going to be taking blood pressure medication for
the rest of your life. That funds Big Pharma. When

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you have cholesterol issues and they put you on statin
medication and you're going to be on that for the
rest of your life because it doesn't address the reason
for the high cholesterol, then you're funding Big Pharma. And
so all the treatments that are recommended through going to
your medical doctor, they're going to recommend some kind of

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pharmaceutical and that continues to fund and create more powerful
big pharma.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And so, I mean the drugs and prescription medications that
they're giving you are generally focused very precisely to whatever
they're trying to target. They are using toxic, toxic chemicals.
So how do you get away from having to use

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something that would otherwise be a toxic thing in order
to be able to be healthy.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Well, you got to appreciate that that's the design mark.
Each prescription is designed to target a specific effect for
the consumer to mask their symptom. And like you said,
they are using toxic chemicals that come with harmful side effects.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
And so.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
You know, you need to understand that we're not talking
about sickness care that they call healthcare. Like there's a
big uproar that was going on, you know, the the
beginning of November, where you know, we had the government lockdown,
et cetera, and they were talking about you know, healthcare,

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and they were talking about prescriptions, and they were talking
about you know, funding health insurance for the people that
have come to the country, etc. And how that's been
a big Brew ha haa, etc. At the end of
the day, there's a really strong, concerted effort in this

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country because big Pharma pays for pretty much everything to
make sure that people need health insurance, and the health
insurance that they're going to get is going to pay
for their prescription medications. And it's just putting everybody into
the same funnel and squeezing them out the bottom to

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where everybody's on multiple like you said, more than one medication,
masking more than one symptom. Their health continues to get
worse as they continue to age, they're going to need
more interventions, and none of it has anything to do
with improving somebody's health.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I mean debasions even understand the real risks that are
involved in taking these medications.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
If they did on any level of research, they would
not choose to take these chemical isolates into their body
and alter their normal healing process. And most, if not all,
people are too disinterested to do the proper research or
just googling side effects of whatever is being prescribed before

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saying yes to the medication. Every patient that comes into
my office, they tell me what medication they're on. I
encourage them to bring the medication with them, so I
can assess whether that's creating a problem for them or not.
But I take the name of the medication and I
immediately on my tablet go to Google and I type

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in side effects of however different medications that they have,
and I say, are you aware of the fact that
this medication comes with these side effects? And they were like, no,
I wasn't aware of that. And I'm thinking to myself,
how would you agree to take these things into your
body and not at least research at a very minor way,

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not research for yourself what the consequences of taking those
chemicals is going to be. And it baffles me to
no end that people are just not interested in what
they're doing to themselves.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
They just want to keep up with the joneses.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So how do the doctors justify those treatments that are
I mean, they know they have harm full side effects.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
They don't have any other choice, they don't have any
other tools. This is how they were educated. Rockefeller and
Carnegie made sure that all medical schools were going to
teach treatments that involve their pharmaceutical solutions so that they

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can continue making money. And that's the business model that's
been the business model and continues to be the business
model since the early nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
So is that why so often in the medical world
we don't see anybody catching a problem until it's kind
of too late.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Well, there's no interest in finding a problem before it's
too late. Why Because health insurance is set up to
only intervene when a crisis occurs. The build up to
the crisis is not a coverage service. Therefore, there's no
incentive to a doctor to try to head off a

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problem before it becomes a problem because they can't get
paid by the insurance company. And they're too I don't
know if the word is weak. They're too misguided, they're
too myopic, they're too invested in the system the way

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that it is to teach a patient how to never
get to begin with. Now, there are some medical doctors
that I give credit to who are leaving traditional allopathic
medicine and they're tired of prescribing the same medications and
seeing same negative outcomes associated with all their patients, and

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they're trying to find a niche that they can create
that's going to cater to a certain type of patient
that gets them out from underneath big pharmists thumb.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I mean, isn't that kind of what you've done? And
your I mean, you've been doing this for what more
than thirty years?

Speaker 6 (09:38):
I've been doing this for over forty. And the reason
that I've done it for over forty was because what
I was offered when I had a problem at a
very young age, they offered me medication that was they
they claimed was going to cause reversible kidney damage. So
they were going to trash my kidneys as a teenager

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by recommending their solution. And I said to myself, I'm
not going to do that to myself. Why would I
destroy my kidneys? And this was before I even knew
how important the kidneys were are, and so I was like, yeah,
I got to find a different way.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I have to go about it in a different way.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
And that's what introduced me to chiropractic, and that's what
introduced me to changing my mindset towards wanting to fix
problems before they become so severe that you don't have
any choice but to go under the knife in order
to solve those problems, And prior to going under the knife,

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you have to go under the masking by taking the
pharmaceuticals to mask whatever your quote symptoms are related to
your underlying condition that they're not going to get involved
in until it's gotten to a certain level of dysfunction.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
So what would a more balanced model health model look
like that weighs the benefits of medicine, because there are
sometimes benefits to medicines against the risks of taking them.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
The only thing that comes to mind is if we
actually cared about our fellow brothers and sisters and we
wanted to teach them from a very young age, like
we're talking grade school, we're talking early grade school. We're
going to teach them what they need to do. I
think there needs to be a class about the importance

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of proper eating, proper exercise, proper sleep. I think we
need to do that before I'm trying to remember when
my first health class was. I think health happened in
eighth grade, and then it happened again in eleventh or
twelfth grade. We had two health classes. And I think

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that we need to do better with teaching children what
proper food is so that they actually go home and
they demand it from their parents, and they can actually
go home and educate their parents on what proper food
is so that the parents can then start at a
very young age feeding your kids properly if you're not
already doing that. My hope would be that if we

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start to teach kids about food and the importance of
quality food, not crap food, that that will motivate them
to become more health conscious and not run to the
doctor to get some kind of pill to help get
rid of some kind of booboo or some kind of pain,

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or some kind of sickness of sorts. If we can
teach children how to never get sick, then they won't
need to be running to get pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
But if somebody has a serious illness, I mean, isn't
sometimes medication the only realistic option for them?

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Oh, that all depends on your approach. I've had people
come to me with very serious illnesses and we didn't
use any medicine to help them get better.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Mm hmm. I mean, it seems like a lot of
what the medical model has done is evolved around late
stage intervention instead of early prevention. I mean, right, it's
a lot about Oh, at the end of life, how
long can we extend somebody that's at the end stages
of life?

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Right, Let's cook them up to machines and keep them
alive and continue to draw a paycheck off of them
by keeping them alive, because we're going to support the
family members that aren't ready to let go of them, okay,
instead of teaching people how to never end up in
that hospital bed suffering until they take their last breath.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know, what's so interesting is that we sort of
see the kind of model you're talking about as almost
being more primitive. And yet and maybe it is a
primitive in one sense, because it's just closer to nature.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It is closer to nature.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
The thing that is completely ironic that I'm just having
a thought about is the fact that my wife is
a canine behaviorist, and God bless her. She does such
a wonderful job helping adults find harmony with their dogs,
and she has a certification and dog nutrition and she's

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very passionate about what she does. But it's fascinating because
when I used to listen to the radio, I would
hear advertisements for diseases that dogs were now acquiring.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
That were the same as human diseases, And well, why
is that?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Well, it was because we're feeding them crap, dried kibble food,
and so they were developing the same degenerative conditions that.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Human beings were having.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
And there seemed to be more interest in taking care
of your dog's health than there isn't taking care of
human health. And you know, you can go get a dinovite,
which is a simple nutritional supplement that you add to
the food that helps to make those conditions go away.
And what are we doing for humans instead of feeding
humans to make their conditions go away. No, we're trying

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to push them down the hallway so that they get
to take more medications and have more medical procedures, because
that's what funds this whole country, and that's what keeps
the politicians happy, is their relationship with big pharma.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah. I was looking that was recently in a pharmacy.
They must have had I don't know, six or eight
pharmacists working at a furious pace for you know, producing
all the medications that they were going to be handing out.
And that was the prescription side, and then you look
in the counters and their shelves after shelves of medications
that are there off the counter.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, it's fascinating, it's pretty fascinating.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
One of the major ways that we're looking for medications
or relief is for pain and pain medications well, especially
things like opioids. They have real costs. I mean, they
do addiction.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
And let's go even further. What's worse than all the
the opioids, right, And what's the biggest problem that we have?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Right? Okay?

Speaker 6 (16:12):
And it's like, okay, we need to make sure that
that stuff is not allowed into this country, and we
need to make sure that we close the doors to
make sure that that doesn't happen. Why Because people's lives
are being ruined. People are dying as a result of
not even knowing that they've got exposed to because of
the way that they hide it and how it's distributed, etc.

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And it's it's just terrible. And so we need to
have a spiritual awakening as a planet of people, and
we need to understand the fact that we are not
doing a good job of taking care of ourselves or
taking care of our brothers and sisters, and we need
to come together as one and we need to do

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a better job for humanity because where we're headed and
the choices that we're making as a society of people
is taking us further and further and further away from
what I feel God's.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Purpose was for human beings.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Yeah, he gave us free will, but I don't think
he intended for us to exercise our free will to
be destructive to ourselves.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But it does seem very much what.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
We're doing rightly, and so we need to wake up
and we need to do better. And one of the
things that I feel that we need to do is
we need to start at a grassroots, very very young age,
and we need to teach children. And it may take
a couple of generations for it to transform the planet,
but it's well worth investing in the long term benefits

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of educating children on what health is and educate them
to never even consider living a lifestyle that's going to
ultimately promote them developing disease and developing problems to where
they're going to need to use pharmaceutical.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I mean, it's so interesting that we have had this
whole program to say no to drugs, and yet we're
flooded with pharmaceutical ads as if they weren't drugs, right.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
And that's a debate that I had on live radio
when I called into a radio show because the host
of the radio show was getting ready to his wife
is getting ready to have their first kid. And now
he's pulling his audience first thing in the morning.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
About do you take the drugs? So do you not
take the drugs?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
So he was asking women to call in to talk
about what their experience was like delivering babies. And I
spent eight minutes driving to my office listening to him
talking about take the drugs, don't take the drugs, take
the drugs, don't take the drugs. So I decided to
call in, and I called in and he answered the phone,
and I was live on the radio, and I said, Mark,

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I need you to be mindful of your audience. And
he says, what are you talking about. I said, I
guarantee you that there are children listening to your program
this morning going to school, and you keep talking about
take the drugs or don't take the drugs. You don't
understand the influence that you're having on your listening audience,
and you need to stop using the word drugs. And
then the next phone call in was another male who

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was a medical doctor, and he says, well, let's just
understand that we're talking about supervised prescription medications.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
We're not talking about drugs.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
And I was very close to calling back and saying, dude,
you're splitting hairs right now, and that's not the purpose
of what we should be talking about. Because they've lost sight.
They think that if it's prescription and they're the ones
that have the authority to allow somebody to take it
using their best clinical judgment that's not influenced by the

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kickbacks that they get from Big Pharma. Tell me that
their judgment isn't clouded when they're getting renumerated by however
many prescriptions they write.

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Speaker 1 (20:53):
So when we're talking about all these different medications that
people are taking, you how big a problem is self medication?
I mean that's people mixing prescription medications with alcohol or
sleep aids and things like that on their own.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Well, I can tell you, I don't know how big
of a problem it is, but it is a real problem,
and it's sad it's possible for people to abuse themselves
this way. We need to do better for each other.
What's also interesting is the fact that kids are going
and they're rating their parents and their grandparents' medicine cabinets,

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and they're grabbing some of the medication, and they're going
and meeting up with their friends and they're dumping all
the medication into a bowl, and then they're just randomly
grabbing a medication out of the ball and they're taking it,
and they're seeing what kind of experience that they can
have taking these types of medications and so that in

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itself being a huge problem in our society. We need
to get a better hold of how these medications are
distributed and how they're accessed by people who shouldn't be
having access to them, et cetera. We definitely have a
drug problem in this country.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
There's definitely a drug problem. And I you know, when
you think about children, that they don't have any sense
of the potential consequences of what they're doing. And yet
all this stuff is so easily available and as part
of as you know, kids that go to college and
they go through these long binge drinking things like that,

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but it starts to mix the drugs and alcohol.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Part of their trying to escape from themselves.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Is that a product? I mean, is that solvable through
education or is there something more that we have to
be doing.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
I have a wonderful patient who he and his wife
are so involved in their children's lives that I don't
ever have any thought or worry that I need to
talk to him about how to do a better job
raising his kids. They are highly functional, very engaged, enjoy

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their education, enjoy their sports, enjoy their family time, enjoy
all of it. And I understand that not all families
are that way. Not all families are whole families. They're
broken families, they're single moms trying to do their best
they can to raise their kids. And what I would

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like every listener to understand, whether you are a parent,
whether you're a grandparent, whether you're struggling, whether you're not struggling,
I want every single one of us to just do
a better job loving our children and nurturing our children,

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and raising our children to be the best possible citizens
that they can possibly be, and sometimes finding the time
to nurture them, to understand them and to help shape
them in a positive way. You may have to do

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less in other facets of their life, but I think
you have the opportunity to set the stage from the
moment the child is born to do the right thing
and to raise them the right way and nurture them
the way, etc.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
And if you have.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Issues from the way that you were raised that's going
to get restimulated and passed on to your kids, then
before you have kids, have the wherewithal to go get
some therapy done so that you can heal that part
of your psyche so that you don't inflict it upon
your child's psyche It's.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
One of those things that as a parent you certainly
look to do. I mean, you know, there are a
lot of people today, young people who are on psychiatric medications,
and it just causes me to wonder, are these drugs
doing more harm than they're doing good?

Speaker 6 (25:17):
That's a very very good question. Are they doing more
harm than good? You need to look at the results
and monitor them with labs and scans, and they don't,
so it will continue to be a problem.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
You know, we don't know the long term effects of
some of these medications on a developing brain.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Right because we haven't used them long enough. But the
fact is is that they want to use them, and
they somehow. I don't understand how they get approval to
be using these types of drugs and the strength of
these drugs on an underdeveloped brain that is still formulating, etc.
And what are the long term effects. I can tell
you the long term effects aren't positive.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean you're altering brain can yeah, And I mean
nobody's really taking the responsibility for that.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Well.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
It's interesting what's been in the headlines recently and what
I've paid attention to, because I always pay attention to
it is the fact that Robert Kennedy Junior is pulling
the curtain back on you know, big pharma and and
everything that went on with COVID, and some of the
doctors that were ostracized and lost their licenses, et cetera

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because of their position on COVID didn't match up with
the agenda of COVID. Now that we've moved far enough away,
now all this research is coming out about the harmfulness
of having taken the vaccine and the harmfulness of how
they rolled it all out, and the consequences that are

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developing in people having had received the vaccines. And if
you've received a vaccine and you're one of the people
that is not having consequences of the vaccine, God bless you.
But there certainly is a plethora of people who are
having all sorts of different health issues that are ultimately

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being traced back to that particular vaccine. And while we're
on the subject of vaccines, they're also taking a look
at all the childhood vaccines and the number of dosages
and the number of things that they're administering two children.
You know, there's as many as seventy three different vaccines
by the time the child has graduated high school, and

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that's just absolute lunacy. And some of these doctors that
had been ostracized are now having the research because they've
been doing the research to understand what are the consequences
of these childhood vaccines. And again, we need to do better.
It's not about funding big pharma, it's about taking care

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of humanity.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well, how do we know what direction we should go,
because clearly some of the terribly deadly diseases you don't
want to have to ever confront having to deal with
in getting over. So there are some things that you
want to make sure that you're avoiding, But then it
seems like maybe there are other things, like we're thinking

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that this is the panacea for everything, that we can
disavoid every disease by being able to vaccinate ourselves into oblivion.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Right, And with all the different types of things that
they experiment with in an effort to do research to
develop stronger medications and more effective medications for these particular
pathogens and these different diseases. What we don't necessarily understand
is the history of vaccination. And I've done a deep
dive on the history of vaccination and it was very

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controversial I don't have a huge platform, so I didn't
get really out there in the public eye. I was
actually advised not to get so into the public eye,
and so I the warnings and kind of just try
to keep it low key but educate the people that
I had direct contact with to make better choices. And

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what we have seen is all the things the childhood
diseases that they've developed different medical treatments for that include inoculations, etc.
They found that just about every single one of those problems,
that the vaccines that were given to help remedy those

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problems didn't have the desired effect, and that people that
would develop natural immunity. And we lost our minds when
COVID happened, and we lost our whole understanding of what
natural immunity is. And I think if we just simply
raised children the right way through breast milk and through

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proper nurturing and transitioning over to real food, not processed food,
we actually give kids an opportunity to grow up healthy.
I am distinctly remembering two young women patients who came
into my office who got pregnant a week apart, and

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so they were in the office pretty much at the
same time all the time, and I watched their pregnancies,
and I watched when their children were born, and I
watched what happened in the first couple of years of
life of both children. And the one who did all
the pharmaceutical interventions and listened to all the advice of

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the pediatricians.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
And the obgyns, etc.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
And did all the different tests and all the different evaluations,
and took all the treatments. That kid grew up with
lots of allergies and lots of sickness and difficulties having
the child not have from one cold to the next,

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to the next to the next pretty much all year round.
Whereas the other mother who breastfed, who didn't do the
alarmist approach, and she was a little bit more pragmatic
in terms of the frequency if in fact she got
all the childhood vaccines or not. And that kid grew

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up lean, healthy, never had problems, never got sick, mind
worked really really well. They were very quick to learn
and pick things up, et cetera. And it was completely
one hundred and eighty degrees opposite. And to see the
difference between those two children being born and being raised

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and what the different outcomes were.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
It was absolutely night and day.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I mean, certainly, certainly, Anecdotedly you'll find differences like that
between individuals for a host of reasons. Wouldn't necessarily just
be because of that.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
And I can appreciate what you're saying, but you know,
knowing these two mothers intimately and knowing what they were
going about and how they were going about, and the
differences in terms of what they were practicing, to me,
it was just a stark difference between the two. And
you know, there's I've said this for my whole career.

(32:24):
If you eat real food, you're going to be healthy,
and if you eat crap food, you're going to have
all sorts of sickness. And there's a concerted effort to
make sure that everybody eats crap food.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well, not the way do we eat crap food, But
like you said, we're also taking all these medications, so
we're debilitating our health in a variety a combined way.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Right, But if you eat real food, you wouldn't need
the medications.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So in order to be able to deal with this,
because we're talking about drugs and health, if you're on
the medications currently that you need for your blood pressure,
for your diabetes, for your eye cholesterol, whatever it might be.
There has to be some kind of journey between where
you're beginning and say the first patient, the first time

(33:14):
that they come see you, sure, and the journey to
maybe get off the medication or at least maybe reduce
the medication. What does that look like.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
My goal would be to get them off the medication
by addressing the reason for why they need the medication.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
If they're on.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Blood pressure medication, there's a mechanism of cause of their
elevated blood pressure. We understand and evaluate and determine what
the reason for why they have high blood pressure, and
we address the underlying reason for that, and we've remedy
it to where it's no longer a problem. Then they
will find when they take their blood pressure medication that

(33:49):
their blood pressure ends up becoming too low. And then
the doctor will actually recommend cutting their blood pressure medication
down in half or getting rid of it all together.
Why because we will have addressed the reason for why
they ended up having the need for blood pressure medication
because they had elevated blood pressure. Now, if a person

(34:11):
has elevated cholesterol, there's a reason for why they have
elevated cholesterol. Let's determine the reason for why they have
elevated cholesterol, address the underlying reason for that, and then
they will no longer have elevated cholesterol, and then they
don't need to take their cholesterol medication that creates all
the litany of side effects. Diabetes being another condition that

(34:32):
develops as a result of taking statins. If a person
has diabetes, then address their eating habits so that they're
not overwhelming their liver and dysregulating their pancrease and causing
their blood sugar to go through the roof. You can
do it naturally. You don't need to be taking some
kind of prescription medication to artificially lower your blood sugar

(34:54):
levels that you're going to need to become dependent upon.
But it's just a question of a difference in a approach.
If you're interested in getting to the underlying cause of
why a person has an issue, and you address it
at that level, then you won't need the pharmaceuticals. But
if you come to me and you already are on
the pharmaceuticals, then we're just going to reverse engineer what

(35:17):
caused you to need the pharmaceuticals to the point where
you don't need them anymore.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Is there a point of no return for somebody that's
on the medications.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Ah, that's an individual's choice. If they don't want to
get off their medication, then they won't. I had a
gentleman who was a Type one diabetic. He was insulin dependent.
I got his pancreas working to where he needed half
the dose that he was taking, and his endochronologist didn't
like that, so his anochronologists forbid him to come see

(35:47):
me anymore and doubled his insulin levels.

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Well, well, that's a sad outcome to that story. We
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Speaker 1 (36:49):
So when we're talking about all this drugs and your health,
one of the areas I wanted to look at a
little bit is the emotional balance. Is there a way
that you can restore emotional balance? Naturally?

Speaker 6 (37:01):
Absolutely, we just need to address the emotion and help
it process fully until balance is restored. Now, I appreciate
that every single emotion affects a different part of your
body specifically. So for instance, the emotion of anger, Anger
is stored in your liver, Fear is stored in your kidneys,

(37:23):
Grief is stored in your lungs. Self esteem is typically
stored in your spleen. Somebody who's dogmatic or rigid in
their way of thinking. That's a large intestine emotion. And
so when a person feels something emotionally, it's going to
impact whatever the associated organ that houses that particular emotion lives.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
And so.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Wanting to look at the person holistically and wanting to
help them to the best of my ability to help
re establish balance and harmony in homeostasis, we're going to
look at people's emotions and when they come in with
a specific problem, we're going to look at the emotions
that are tied to that specific organ, gland, or tissue

(38:12):
or system specific to them and their problem.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
So is that going to tie into the nutritional approach
that you have. In other words, you have a certain emotion,
could that relate to what's going on nutritionally where the
nutritional deficiencies are. Oh?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
Nutrition is vital for feeding the brain to maintain balance
that is healthy. We use the whole food supplements designed
to create a balanced brain and it works quite well
and the side effects are simply feeling better. And so
when a person has an imbalance emotionally, we check for
the nutrition. It's typically one of three products. It could

(38:52):
be a fourth product, and we could also pull in
some herbal depending upon what's what. Able to get great
results using primarily one of two products, and occasionally we
have to add a second product.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
To either one of those two.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
And when I get a person to begin to think
differently about how they look at the world. Well, then
that changes their emotional outlook and that changes the emotions
that they experience from being negative to being positive.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
What about homeopathy? Does that also fit into some LUNs
into the recovery of people.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, homeopathics help with clearing the blocked pathways, and the
herbs are for a different form of nutrition that works
on different pathways to restore balance. But homeopathics has been
around since the late eighteen hundreds with doctor Hahnemann who
developed homeopathy.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
I mean, I mean, it's so often when we're having
these conversations you bring things back, particularly to diet, but
also to movement and exercise. We've been talking now about
mindset and the emotional components of that's are those all
factors that are central to healing overall?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
They are?

Speaker 6 (40:11):
You know, all health problems have a nutritional component. We
are dynamic human beings. We are meant to move, so
that's important for us to be moving. And your mindset
and whether you're clear, whether you're balanced, whether you're rational,
or whether you're out of balance and irrational. Restoring balance

(40:34):
on all three of those levels body, mind, and spirit
is vital for a person to be whole and healthy.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
So, if somebody out there is listening and is questioning, say,
the medications that they're taking currently, what would you say
would be the first safe step that they might take
if they're looking to wean themselves off of those medications.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
Well, find the imbalance that the medication is masking. Fix
the imbalance is the medications are masking and suppressing, and
when you do that, then the medicine no longer necessary.
That can be harmful at that point, So we ask
them to talk to their pharmacist or to their medical

(41:14):
doctor about reducing the dose because we've improved their health
and their function as to where they don't need the
crutch of the medication anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
So how do you actually go about Well, can you
tell us a little bit maybe an example of how
you go through that in your own approach. If somebody
came into you and say it's taking some kind of medication,
maybe they're taking blood pressure medication, or they're on some
diabetes medication.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Well, when we evaluate a person, we use a wonderful
tool called manual muscle testing, which is directly interfacing with
your nervous system and your body's ability to respond in
a normal fashion versus an abnormal fashion, And so when
the nervous system is being interfered with, that's typically a
condition called the subluxation, which is the primary condition that

(42:03):
chiropractors treat. I go significantly deeper than just trying to
put a bone back in normal position and get rid
of the stress off the nerve. I want to understand, well,
why did the bone go out a place to begin with?
Are they holding emotion that causes a distortion within their spine?
Are they having food sensitivities which causes a specific spinal distortion.

(42:29):
Are they holding on to different emotions in other parts
of their body which also contributes to spinal stress and misalignments.
And so my career as a licensed chiropractor was not
just to keep putting that bone back every single time
the person came into the office. I started asking deeper questions,

(42:49):
why does that bone keep going out? What's going on
in the course of that person's day, or in the
course of that person's week, or however long it's been
since I've seen them that's causing that specific bone to
keep going out. So that's when I started looking into, well,
what are the reasons. The first reason that I started
working with was nutrition. Then I learned a technique about emotions,

(43:11):
so good. Then we started incorporating emotions, and then dovetailing
with the emotions was the homeopathy, and so we got
into the homeopathic aspect of it, and then we got
into looking at allergies and food sensitivities and looking into
physiological imbalances. And then you know, everybody is that tryune

(43:32):
being the body mind, and the last aspect, which is spirit.
So then the spiritual aspect crept into the work that
I was doing, and so it's evolved into looking at
a person holistically. And the only intention that I have
for every person that comes into my office and sits
in front of me is what do we have to
do together to help bring them back into balance and

(43:53):
harmony and what God's initial plan was for them?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah. No, I mean one of the things you deal
with is the Chinese and that that talks about the
energy or a ti in the body as being central
to health. So how do you help people restore the
balance of their energy?

Speaker 6 (44:12):
Well by removing any of the interferences, which is very
similar to what an acupuncturist does. They put in strategic needles,
in various acupuncture points to help either increase the flow
of energy or decrease the flow of energy to bring
it back into balance.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
And so what I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Instead of putting in needles on specific meridians, I'll just
reset the meridian from a reflex point.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
And so I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
Very similar work too, but doesn't involve the placing of
needles in the person's body in an effort to restore
the balance. We can just reset the reflex for the
whole circuit, and then that helps to restore balance. And
then well, how do we have to enhance the body
so that it maintains that balance?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
And most times.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
The number one reason for why one goes out of
balance has to do with nutrition.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
So how did you end up getting into that whole
medical theory. It seems so not necessarily because it's an
Eastern theory as opposed to chiropractic, which is more Western,
and some of the other things you've done in the
nutritional work. How did you get into the Chinese theory?

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Well, at the end of the day, it's a question
of understanding a system that's over seven thousand years old.
It's very highly specific, it gets great, great results. They
don't use medication, and it was intriguing for me to
try to understand the relationships, specifically when somebody comes in

(45:37):
that has a headache. You know the Missus Jones example
that I use all the time. As she came in
on Monday with a headache, and I adjusted her first
cervical vertebrae and her headache was gone before she got.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Off the table.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
And then she comes back into my office Wednesday with
a different headache. It's not the same, and we got
rid of the first headache. Now she's got a similar preason.
She has another headache, and so she specifically requested the
same adjustment that I gave her on Monday. So we
give her another adjustment and her headache is gone again.
And then I was looking for her on Friday. She

(46:14):
didn't come in Friday. She came in Saturday with another
headache that was caused by consuming more alcohol than she
probably should have in an effort to get rid of
her headache. And so I got frustrated with the lack
of results that I was getting by doing what I.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Was taught in school, and all school.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
Taught me was how to move the bone and make
sure it's the right bone that you're moving, and so
I'm very good at doing that, but it didn't help
address why that same bone keeps going out of place.
So I had to look for deeper relationships and mechanisms
for why that bone would keep going out of place,
and so I've pursued it in all the different facets

(46:53):
and techniques that I do in the office.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I mean, what are the ways that people talk about
having problems or where that where problems begin, because we're
talking about tracing problems back to their origins. Is that
the first sign of something going wrong is inflammation. So
do you use the nutritional support that you offer to
help people combat inflammation?

Speaker 6 (47:18):
And then, oh, yeah, inflammation is a direct indication that
you have some form of nutritional deficiency. The first outcome
of being nutritionally deficient is going to be inflammation. So
when a person has inflammation, their body is screening for
resources to help satisfy whatever the mechanism that created the

(47:40):
inflammation is. So anytime somebody comes into my office and
has any level of inflammation, I'm going to give them
something that's going to be anti inflammatory to help stop
the inflammation. But that's just a band aid. I'm going
to want to understand, well, what is the mechanism of
cause of that inflammation and address it at its source. So,

(48:02):
if a person rolls an ankle and they have a
big chematoma on the side of their ankle there, and
it's big and swollen and they can't really put a
lot of pressure on their foot, et cetera because of
the damage that's occurred, first thing that I want to
do is have them do rice therapy, which is rest ice, compress,

(48:23):
and elevate, and that will help to get the person
out of the alarm phase. I want to support them
with a good high quality fish oil which is going
to help their body produce anti inflammatories to also help
with the inflammation. But then ultimately I'm going to want
to support the healing of the ligaments and the tendons

(48:44):
that got damaged in the twisting of the ankle, and
by giving the proper ingredients for that to heal, it's
going to heal significantly faster than if you don't.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's I mean. And ultimately, the healing process is the
one that your body is going to do on its own.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
Right, but supporting it with the proper ingredients allows it
to do it.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
In a much more complete.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
Way, in a faster way, and then everybody's happy.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Is that also true in terms of the natural ways
that you might be treating something like stress or anxiety
and depression some of the mental things that we were
talking about before.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
Yeah, supporting the person to have the resources that they
need that results in them having the effects of stress.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
And them maybe feeling depressed or what have you.

Speaker 6 (49:30):
Depression is a liver emotion, okay, and so supporting the
liver to have the resources to better manage whatever the
stress is that's being processed through the liver that's resulting
in the negative consequence, which is depression. You know, Depression
is somebody that doesn't have the ability to change their situation,

(49:51):
they will ultimately get depressed. Somebody who gets angry is
trying to solve their condition. It's a very similar vein.
One is proactive and one is reactive. And so when
you understand that and you understand the mechanisms, it's like, Okay,

(50:11):
how long were you pissed off before you became depressed?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
And they're like, oh, that's right, I was really angry
for a period of time before the depression set in.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
And it's like, well, yeah, because it's all part of
the same issue. It's just one is more chronic and
one is more acute.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
So the anger is.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
Going to be an acute response and depression is going
to be a chronic response.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
And when people come to you and start start taking
on this integrative approach, this whole body approach to their health,
there must be other things other than just dealing with
medications that are going to change about their lives. Can
you talk a little bit about what happens to somebody
who comes into you. They started on one track. Oh, yes,

(50:54):
I've been taking blood pressure mitigation and I'm getting off
of it. But what happens once you've gone asked that
first phase with the patient?

Speaker 6 (51:03):
They get more motivated to continue to improve their health.
They like the way that they're feeling, and they want
to feel more of it, and they want to become
more in control of it instead.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Of being the effect of it.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
When you're taking medication, you're tied to the medication. When
we get you off the medication and now you're tied
to yourself, well good. Now you want to make yourself
as strong and as resilient as possible so that you
don't backslide to the point where you're going to need medication,
and that's a lifetime process. I haven't been sick in
over thirty five years, and I still do my health

(51:36):
practices every day.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Why because I don't.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
Ever want to go back to where I was when
I was in my late teens early twenties.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
And So, if somebody's out there and is listening to
our show and is hearing this and is intrigued by
what they're hearing, and maybe they're on medication, maybe they'd
like to get off their medication. Maybe they'd like to
just address some other health as you said, maybe they
have been suffering from some kind of vague symptom that
they've never really been able to get addressed. What are

(52:07):
the best ways to reach out to you and see
if you might be the right person for them to
look to for getting support on their health.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
The easiest way to reach out to me would be
to call my cell phone directly. I give you my
cell phone because I want to talk to you. I
don't want you to have to go through an answering service.
I don't want you to go through my receptionist. I
don't want you to do any of that. I want
to talk to you directly, so I give you my
cell phone so that we can have a conversation directly.
My cell phone number is area code eight four to

(52:34):
five five six one two two two five again eight
four five five six one two two two five. Please
don't text that phone number until you've had a conversation
with me. I don't tend to respond to texts from
people that I don't know. So if we have a
conversation and I say okay, well you can provide me

(52:55):
more information and if you need to, you can text
me and I'll get back to you when it's convenient
for me to get back to you. A quicker way
for me to get back to you would either be
to call me directly or to send me an email.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
My email is.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
Doc Rick dc R c K at spineboy dot com.
Doc Rick at spineboy dot com. I answer all my
emails just about every day. And yeah, So, whatever the
case it is for you, if you're on medication and
you want to get off, if you don't want to
take medication and you want to address whatever your problem is,

(53:27):
I'm here to help you. I'm here to put you
in the driver's seat of your own health and yeah,
that's my mission and that's what my passion is.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
And so.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
I'm here for you when you're ready to ask for health.
This show is called When Your Health Matters. It's not
up to me, it's up to you when your health matters,
and when it does and you want help, please reach
out and so yeah, so I want to thank you
for tuning in this week. Mark's given me the symbol
that we got to wrap this up. And so I

(53:58):
want to thank Mark for putting this show together and
asking the questions and helping to elucidate some answers for
our listenership. I want to thank you the listener for
tuning in. I'd ask you to tune back in next week,
same health time, same health station. This is doctor Richard
on tune from Advanced Alternative Medicine Center, saying, I'll look
forward to supporting you when your health matters.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
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Speaker 3 (54:26):
I've seen worse.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
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on top of that, on top of that, on top

(54:48):
of that,