June 14, 2025 • 40 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Butch and Chris from Clegg's Nursery, we talk about how it was a rainy week, but it was needed! That leads into the importance of regular watering, and how you might need to do it longer and more frequently than you think. Also, what plants can survive signs of wilting!
They also talk about the plant of the week - lantanas - plus treating for leaf miners, why you can plant fall tomatoes, hot peppers and eggplants now, and Butch talks about why you should buy a pack of field peas!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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They also talk about the plant of the week - lantanas - plus treating for leaf miners, why you can plant fall tomatoes, hot peppers and eggplants now, and Butch talks about why you should buy a pack of field peas!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the Wgboln and Garden Show,
brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If you have a
question about seasonal glean tank lon and garden concerns, are
questions about landscaping called four nine nine WGBO. That's four
nine nine two six day and.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, Baton Rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven
to fifty wjbo's.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Lawn and Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
My name is Butch Drews with me is the one,
the only, the person we all should look up to.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Chris Herman. I know it's about you think WJB. I
fix the elevator in this place. Aren't we the number
one rated show on WJBO between eight and nine on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, yes we are, Yes we are. We can we
can we can claim that spot. Good motly blitch, how
are you great? Actually we got our workout this morning,
Yes we did.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Something.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Sounds really weird with my headphones. I don't know what's
going on, so I'm going to be a little distracted
here for a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ohoh, I think I did it. Maybe you do, just
you're hearing aid.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
You know, if you put them on both ears, it
might make a difference.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hold on, now it's left and right there you go.
All right, Okay, now he's looking at let me use
some commentary. He's now looking at the headphones.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I was hearing everything backwards.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Actually, actually I am having a little ear issues from
a incident that happened a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So I think that's what I'm what's going on. But anyway,
enough about me.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Even though I'm an extremely important person, very important person,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Otherwise you'd be having to.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Do this, I don't think so we wouldn't have any listeners.
Give us call four nine five two six. That's four
nine nine WJBOS. Star eleven fifty will get you puts.
We don't have star lemn fifty. Can you please get
star lemn fifty back. We've discussed this before, I know,
but I here's a button on the app or.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yes, the talkback, but we have to said the talkback
Mike in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
That's hard because I don't have a clue what that is. Okay,
what just stuck in the seventies?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yes, well, it's after you've got your headphone settled, you
pull out the app on your phone if you're listening
and you can press a little button that looks like
a microphone. You can leave a message on it. Oh cool, yeah,
and then we can hear it wow, or you can
give us a call. It four nine N that's fortnine
nine w JBO. Does anybody?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Does anybody really know about the letter thing?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I mean, they're still there on your phone, right, but
it just seems so difficult, like where is W in
the alphabet.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Right after?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Anyway, I thought this was a lawn and garden show,
not first grade.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well, it's basically the same thing. Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Interesting weather week, yes, some rain, yes, and heavy rains.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yes, it was. It was good to get the rain.
Our ground was getting rather parched.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That's one of the issues that I have with some customers,
not all customers, but they come in and you know,
ask what's going on with their with their plants. And
you've been doing this much longer than me. I've been
with Kelegs for thirty two years. But we pretty much
can tell what the problem is. And a lot of
times it's dry. Oh but we got some rain and
(03:33):
we didn't two weeks ago, weeks ago, and a lot
of times these heavy afternoon thunderstorm storms that we get,
it's really not enough to soak into the ground well.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And not only that, that's an excellent point, but one
of the things I try to always tell people is
whenever you have a rain, the best way to tell
how good that rain is is how much water is
in the street. Yes, because if it rains too hard,
too fast, you're gonna everything's gonna run off. It's gonna
be in the gutters, and it's gonna go out in
(04:06):
the ditch. Where you want these nice slow Yesterday morning
started out very hard, but then it kind of did
a light rain for several hours afterwards, which was perfect.
I would have liked to have had the light rain
the whole time, as opposed to the tree.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Limbs down in my yard.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
But yes, you want the same thing, you know, And
just to segue into what we tell people when they
when they have to water, you don't want to sit
there with you know, the hose full blast with your
thumb on the end of it, squirting at a plant,
because it's all going to roll off. You want a
nice sprinkler system, micro irrigation system, whatever it is that's
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gonna disperse water slowly.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Soak in exactly, because if you're holding your finger over
the hose, you're probably washing some of the soil away. Yes,
but most of it, like you said earlier, is going
to just sproll off.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So soak in.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So we need to thoroughly soak those roots. The leaves
don't really need it, it's the roots that need it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Really really wow, Is that what the roots you are
there for? Yes? I would thought they were just there.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
To reach your end air they need here too.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I thought they were just there to root around. Oh lord,
come on, you set me up for that.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Please know tomorrow is Father's Day, so dad jokes will
be allowed.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
For six nine nine w JBO with your favorite dad
joke would be appreciated. No, but that's very important. And
some plants will tell you or show you again, as
you said, we've been both you know together, we've been
at this almost eighty something years. I feel old. Yeah,
(05:54):
some plants will tell you. They'll will the leaves will
droop down, they will this color. Lot of times you
can tell a dry plant because it's not as bright green.
And some plants are very good about recovering once you
put moisture on. There are certain plants that once they
go dry, you might as well pack that thing up
(06:17):
and put it out at the curb. It's not going
to recover. It's not going to recover. Plants have what
they call a wilting coefficient. It is the point at
which they will wilt. And some of your softer leaf
an azalea, for instance, which is a bad example because
if an azelle drives out a lot of times it's
very difficult to rehydrate them. Even though but like some
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of your bedding plants, they'll droop down, Salvia, they'll droop down.
You water, they pop right back up. Everything's fine. A camellia,
a holly, some of your harder leafed plants. There, wilting
coefficient is very I can't remember if it's low or high.
But if you get a wilt on one of those plants,
it's gone. It's not coming back. So a lot of
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times what you'll notice on those plants is a lightning
of the color or discoloration of the leaves. If you
can get water on them again, a slow water that
can get absorbed in, you have a chance. But the
most important thing, and I've always told people, and you're
more than welcome to disagree with me, even though you'd
be wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
If you do, it's about two inches of rain a week.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Or two inches of watering most of the time will
keep your plants healthy.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I had an inch and a half in my head,
but an inch and a half issue inches. Yeah, yeah,
that's exactly a nice slow drizzle. And you don't have
to do that all in one shot.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
In fact, it be better if you do it in
a couple correct to you know, to one inch, say
on Tuesday, and one inch on Friday, and that would
be a perfect thing. And you know, most people if
you have a micro irrigation system, which we promote constantly
on this radio show because it is the best thing
you can do in your lawn. And it's very easy,
(08:01):
as we've mentioned several times. But run your system for
about an hour and that should give you about what
would be equivalent to an inch of rain. The other
thing you can do is that we actually sell at
the store. I think they still do little like they're
actually called irrigation gauges. They look like small rain gauges
that you can set out there and they'll let you know, okay, wow,
(08:23):
I've got an inch of water in there.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's perfect. I just ran it for an hour and
a half to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, there, you know you want to run your system
an hour and a half twice a week.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So that's another way of doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
The other thing, and this is one of the things
I really try to get people because, as you said,
people go why watered two weeks ago? Go out by
yourself a little inexpensive They're called trials or shovel or
you can use your hand, or you can use a
sharp stick, or you can use whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Spoon a spoon.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Dig down when you get done watering, especially mister thumb
on the end of the hose, dig down and see
exactly how far.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That water has gone down.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
If you you know, mister thumb on the end of
the hose, I can guarantee you you stood out there
for thirty five seconds.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And you've maybe wet your mulch. You have no ground.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And actually that's a negative because if you do shallow
watering every time, the plants are going to send their
roots up into that zone trying to get that moisture,
so they become much more drought intolerant because they don't
have a nice deep root system. So you really want
to get your watering deep into the ground so the
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roots will stay throughout the strata of the soil and
not all come up to the surface.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, we've discussed this before on the show in the past.
I don't know who's telling these people, but several of
the people that come in have sprinkler systems and they
run them for five minutes every day, which you don't
need to water every day, but five minutes is nothing.
I even think that keeps the dust down. No, it doesn't.
(10:06):
I tell the story of I went to my in
law's house. They live in Texas, and they were in
a drought. They live in a gated community, and I
know everybody in that neighborhood has a sprinkler system, and
almost everybody's lawn was brown, and their shrubs just didn't
look very good. So I got to my mother in
law's house and I asked her, what's your sprinkler set to? Oh,
it's ten minutes every day. Said that's wrong. Get your spoon,
(10:29):
get your try, get you I went out and I
ran it for ten minutes. Then I waited ten minutes
and I dug down and it was a quarter of
an inch half an inch.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm surprised that was dust. Yeah, I'm surprised it was
even that deep.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So I changed it. I bumped it up to thirty minutes.
I just, you know, so let's try this. That was
a start, and this was towards the end of the summer,
so we're starting to get cooler. And she called me
a month later and said everything was green. I mean,
it makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And that was another excellent point Chris is we can
tell you thirty minutes, forty five minutes. But again, the
little rain I'm gonna call it a rain gauge or
sprinkler gauge will tell you, spoon trial whatever, dig down
a little bit. Thirty minutes is probably a minimum. I
would think, Yes, you may so depends on your soil.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It does very much.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You know, if you have a good soil that has
peat moss that's going to help retain that moisture, you
may not need to run it as long, or if
you have a well drained soil, it might just go
right through it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's one of the things that I really like about
Cleggs's raised bed blend as opposed to the garden soil,
and they sell both both of good products. But I've
always been of the impression that you can add water.
It's very difficult to take water out where the raised
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bed blend does drain very quickly. If you're going six
to eight inches. Add some peat moss Chris just said,
to help hold some moisture in there where I think
a lot of times the garden soil with the river
silt in it can hold a little bit more moisture.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So, yes, it's at war, it's a little heads. It's
not a little more. It's a lot heavier that it is. Yes,
but it's a great soil and.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Almost I almost think opposite of the way we sell
them for is the raised bed blend to me?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is it better?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yes, you can use it in a raised bed, it's
an excellent product, no negatives here whatsoever. You can use
it in container, but it almost works better if you're
working it into the soil, if you're breaking up existing
soil where the garden soil being heavier. And again that's
not a negative comment on it. It's a positive company
if you want to. And I don't know where this
(12:48):
became proper way to build beds, but a lot of
landscapers nowadays are just putting the layer of soil over
existing soil. And that's what I think the garden soil
is better for because it is a little bit heavier,
it does hold some moisture. But two excellent soils. That's
why clegg sells two different soils. And ask some of
(13:09):
the experts at Clegg's, you know, tell them what you're
trying to do, and they will steer you where they
think is best for you as far as that goes.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So I appreciate you dropping knowledge on us, But now
we're going to have customers coming in asking what plants.
What the wilt coefficient of a plant is? Sorry, I
don't know five.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's yes, there actually is numbers involved, but that's not
what the important thing is there. It's just it's the
plant's ability to wilt and then recover from a moisture,
and it's the point at which they start to wilt.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
So you were talking about the wilt coefficient of plants,
dropping some knowledge, and one that has a low wilt
coefficient I believe, I don't know zero point one to
two Lantana plan of the week.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
How do you like that segue? That was really good?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, you're gonna make this thing so professional they
shouldn't allow me in any way, but they do.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Better fix the elevator.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, exactly, can we do a remote from the ground floor.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We're old and fat?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Uh Lantana, it's a plant for I'm wonna say the
more mature listeners they got ooh, ham and eggs. Because
when I grew up, probably you in New Orleans the
same way, Lantana was what they called ham and eggs,
and it was a large shrub typically grew six to
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eight foot, you know, bloomed throughout the summer. You know,
just was okay, great, love that plant type thing. But
it has come so far. Oh yes, I mean they've
been around forever. I mean and again grown up in
New Orleans. You walk around it's almost like a weed.
I mean it comes up from underneath the raised houses, right, but.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You have to drive around them in the street.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
No, very very hardy perennial come back every year, can
tolerate dry conditions, blooms all summer along. Of course, there's
some newer varieties that bloom better than the older variety.
The new bandana. I put one in my yard called
passion fruit. Unbelievable, and it's a short one. It only
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gets about twelve to fourteen inches tall. That's it is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's it. Yeah, that's the one Shirley plants at our house.
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
In fact, I had to get Braiden to send some
over from Color Division. They had weren't quite ready for retail.
But Shirley it's good. I mean she can plant that
type stuff and it's not problem. But yeah, that kind
of went from the ham and eggs, the big growing
ones kind of went totally opposite. They went, there's a
purple and then the new gold Lantanas where the first
(15:59):
i'm gonna say newer ones that came out, and both
of those are considered more ground covers.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But since then the whole bandit the passion Fruit.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Though I can't even think of all the different names
of some of the bandana series.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I wrote it down, so Bandana, Bandido, Lucky Landmark, Yeah,
the old some of the old favorites which I haven't
seen lately, but Dallas red Irene, there's a trailing white.
You had mentioned the trailing lavender and the new Gold.
That's the trailing Gold.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
One of the things that had kind of and that
was when we were dealing with more of the trailing white,
the purple, the Dallas reds, some of those that you
just mentioned. We were getting an insect called lace wing
or lace bugs were actually.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I won't say, ruining the plant.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They would get on there and they would cause the
plant to stop blooming, basically, which is the reason you bought.
Have you noticed and this is a non scientific question,
believe me, it's just but I don't see that being
as much of a problem in the newer series like
the Bandana bandidos, you know, because use plant the passion fruit.
Shirley plants it and it blooms all summer and really
(17:13):
doesn't seem to have much of a problem with that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Lace wing.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Haven't really paid attention to it. But now that you're
saying that, I think, I think you're correct, And we
still get samples in, right, but we don't know what
it is. They just bring us the leaves and you
can obviously see that it's the lace bug damage, which
I don't know if it's the newer ones or not.
But now that you're thinking, then I'm thinking about it.
I haven't had it in my yard, right, and I
have the newer ones.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, Okay, So I mean you've seen the same thing
that I am too, So yeah, that's that's an interesting thing.
I don't know if they've bred some resistance or maybe
they just don't taste as good.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, but no, Lantana's typically.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Will come in reds, yellows, oranges, whites, you'll get some lavenders.
One of the other things that used to occur when
you Dallas red keeps popping in my head because they
as the heat came on, would tend to go more
yellow and they would lose a lot of the coloration,
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where again the newer bandana series don't seem to do
that because that passion fruit is what is it. It's like
a yellow. There's an orangish color. I'm even say a
little bit of a red color in there, maybe light
red color. Pink, pink yellow, okay, pink, yeah, pink as
opposed to red. It tends to hold that color all
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year long, or at least all summer, and again it
will get killed back in the winter at some point,
just mulch the root system, prune it back in the
spring and they come back very strong.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
And that's small mound, and I mean it's just covered
with flowers. I've been very pleased with it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Not to get away from the plant of the week,
which is lantana this week, but kawhi vinca. Do some
white ones behind it or with it? Ooh man, justly God, Yes,
it looks really good. If Martha Stewart is calling, yes, that's.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm going by what my wife. Believe me she is.
She is the plant person.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I were talking about lantana and lace bugs. You know
if you do have lace bugs, so that's kind of
looks like a modeled leaf. It's got little white specks
on it. From a distance, it looks almost white. Do
you have to do glue to model with the model? No?
Quit interrupted me. Okay, this is excellence right here.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
That's four ninebo.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
If you look on the bottom, you usually don't see
the lace bug. Unfortunately, we usually see the damage. We
don't see the bug. But if you look on the bottom,
you'll see little brown specs and that, of course is
their honeydew.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
They're they're excrement.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
But we still want to treat and usually at the
best treatment, and you can use an oil, but you
need to be careful when we get up into the nineties.
Using an oil, you can burn if you do want
to use it, use it early in the morning or
late in the evening when it's a little bit cooler.
I recommend the systemic insect spray because that's going to
be a contact killer as well as systemic is going
to pull it inside of the plant, so any sucking
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or chewing insect that comes along it is going to
continue to take care of that insect. There's also a drench,
but the drench is more for a would you agree
is more for a preventative.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yes, oh very much. It's a preventative. Do that early
on in the season.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The one thing that and I don't mean to disagree
with you, because what you're saying is exactly right.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I prefer not to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Use the spray because one of the benefits of lantana
is the butterflies. Yes, and using the spray sometimes that
can't affect the butterflies, or if you use the drench
it won't. So you know, sometimes if you have if
you have the new gold, if you have the purple trailing,
the white trailing, probably wouldn't hurt to do the prevention
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because those those varieties in particular will get tore up.
And watch your bandan if you start to see that,
go ahead and do the drench, which is a preventative.
But it will kick in quick enough if you catch
it early, So that's one thing to look for. But yeah,
I just you know, again, because of the butterflies, I
do like to the oil spray isn't going to affect them. Again,
(21:21):
if you do it early in the morning, you're not
going to accidentally hit a butterfly with it. But yeah,
the systemic spray sometimes can cause some issues with the butterflies.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yes, correct, so, but it is quicker to get it. It
is a system it is you need to protect the butterflies,
You're correct.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, if if another thing you can do if it
gets really bad is just cut the plant, trim the
plant back, put a little fertilizer on it, and they'll
grow right back out of it. But again, if you
know you've had the problem at that point, use the preventative.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
What is the name is it? Tree and Shrub drench.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Bertile own Tree and shrub Systemic insect drench. Okay, Yeah,
it's kind of a blue bottle. I think you'll you'll
probably have an end cap of it this time.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yere.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
No, it's actually a product better to get it in
earlier doesn't mean you can't use it now, but I mean,
we're we already have the problems right now, we already
have the insects. But you know, try and do it
when the plant starts leafing out mid to late March
into April.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Chris Hermon, manager of one of the four locations of Clegg's.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Nursery in the Greater Baton Ridge area. You're at Siegen Lane.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
We also have the store in mid city on don
More Greenwell Springs Road, real close to Sherwood Forest Boulevard intersection,
and then the Denhim Springs location Range Road, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Five miles north of the interstate. I'm so impressed that
you can do that on the segway. Can you get
down before you break it?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Hip? Or did you have a segue? I wrote a
segue once. It's kind of cool. We did it in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, City, you wouldn't do it because you wanted to
impress the boss by working.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Some people had to work.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Oh yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Anyway, My segue was we were talking about the systemic
drench in the use on lantana for lace wing or
lace bug prevention. That is probably one of the products
that people need to know more about and we need
to promote it more, especially when we're selling particular types
(23:23):
of plants. Furtilo systemic tree and shrub Drench is what
we typically sell for shrubbery.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, we also have the brand brand BioAdvance, which is
sold for vegetables.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yes, you vegetable gardeners. Listen up the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Whenever you used the pre emergent not pre emergent systemic
insecticide in plants, there's what we call a days to harvest.
It's the number of days that you have to stop
using the product before you actually harvest. And for most
of the crops this very generalized statement, So don't just
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run all over who you said it was twenty one days.
It is typically three to four weeks on most crops.
But what's good about it is, especially if you're doing
summertime tomatoes. One of the biggest issues we have is
leaf miners. Yes, and people come in with the road
maps on their tomato leaves. Oh goodness, what am I
going to do? Well, if you're planning your summer tomatoes
(24:27):
or fall tomatoes or some people like to call them,
use this BioAdvance what was his name?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Again, there's a couple of them. There's the bio Advanced
rose and flour. That's not the one you want to
use on your vegetables, no, but it's bio advance fruit citrus.
No vegetables citrus and fruit, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Anyway, it's got pictures of it's orange. It's a blue
orange label, blue bottle orange, and it has like fruit
all over it. So it's pretty easy for why are
you smirking but not taking it? They need a curtain.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
You had discussed earlier about the days to harvest, and
we're talking about that these names. You know, you the
customer or the end user needs to read the instructions,
you know, I mean, that's what you're paying for. When
you're paying for that, is that that's research that they've done.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And it is actually the consumer's legal responsibility too, because
we can don't don't call somebody up and so well,
the guy at Clegg's nursery set it doesn't matter. Yes,
we try to give out and we you know, give
out information. There a lot of times, you know, I've
been at this longer than I'd like to remember. There
(25:39):
were times that I'd open up at a label and
look at it because there's you know, I don't even
know how many different chemicals we sell. I can't remember
all of them. So I still do that. I mean
they've changed over the y and they have improved them.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
They've taken some that were they considered more detrimental off
the market and brought some newer wings in. So yeah,
but I read the label too. But yes, that's your
responsibility when you purchase and use that product.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
But there are certain plants out there in that we
sell the Clegg cells, and they're good plants. And again
I'm not doing anything negative. Crape myrtle is the one
that comes to mind. They're going to get aphids, leaf
hoppers that create I like the way you said honey
(26:24):
dew or excrement which is going to cause a plant
to turn black. Guardenias are going to get it. This
product if you use it, and I usually recommend waiting
till May or early June where we are right now
to use the product because the problem really hasn't started yet.
And as Chris said, this is a preventative, it's not
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a cure. Come in, get the product. It's very easy
to apply. You mix it up in a gallon of water.
Depending on the diameter or the height of the plant,
and you pour it right at the base of the
tree or shrub and it's absorbed through the rootsys.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And you're not going to have the problem.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Right, is any insect that comes and is chewing on
that leaf or sucking on that leaf, it's going to die.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yes, you don't have to worry organizing death.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
So you don't have to worry about spraying in the
heat or spraying when there's pollinators. Right, So use the
systemic drench and motion. Use it earlier in the season.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right by Burnum, a plant that gained a lot of
popularity there for a few years as a lagustrium replacement.
Is it is whitefly habitat, so very simple to do,
very easy to do. It does take a quantity. I'm
going to use that word. Don't again. Read the label. Okay,
(27:45):
if the shrub is four foot tall, it's going to
tell you X amount of ounces a chemical.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
You want to do that?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, well, I don't think I really need three ounces
per foot.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Let's just use an ounce. Well, you're wasting your money,
you know. And if you use four ounces, you're wasting
your mond.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Because they've figured out how much you need to get
into that tree, right. And a lot of times you'll
read on the labor will say one ounce, but it's
actually one ounce per inch of diameter trunk or as
you said earlier, or one inch per height of trunks.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So it's usually I mean it could add up.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yes, you get up to thirty two ounces, even a gallon, right,
And it doesn't really tell you to mix it with
a gallon of water or one hundred gallons of water.
It's enough water to get the product down to the roofs,
kind of like our watering thing.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You don't want to you know, you don't want to
have so little water that it can't absorb down into
the roots.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
You don't want it all just be in poon a
water to an ounce. Is it going to go very far?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I usually use it like a mop bucket or a
five gallon bucket. I just fill that up and pour
it slowly, slowly. Yes, four two six, that's four nine nine.
WJBO get you put smac dab on our list, and
we would appreciate any calls or any questions. You might
have kind of talked a little bit there about fall tomatoes,
(28:59):
anything else planting in the garden right now, hot peppers. Okra,
you can still plant okra? Yep, egg plant?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Are we on the.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Verb no eggplants? You're fine with eggplant. And if you
want to do your fall air quotes tomatoes any availability
yet or there's there's a few, Yes, we do have some.
It's a lot of newer ones.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, I know, Johnny went over with him me the
other day.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I can't remember the new name.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Just look for the word heat or Florida or sun
and you're probably going to be okay with that. But yeah,
that is one thing that I noticed right before I left,
and I went in a week or so ago and
looked at him like, I have no idea what these
varieties are, so I guess someone how Ninja comes to
my head? But is that the pepper? That's the pepper pepper?
(29:50):
And actually I think we promoted it last week. That is,
I grew it exceptionally well last year in our garden. Peppers,
especially bell peppers or the true sweet peppers, have a
tendency to get a bacterial speck and it will destroy
the plants, just basically kill them out. Ninja and tradition
(30:11):
are two newer varieties. I believe it's ninja is resistant
to all of the specs, and it last year did
extremely well. This year, however, we determine that it is
not resistant to squirrels.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I guess they taste good. Apparently they do, because they
have just mowed them down.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So anybody with extra bell peppers, I'll be more than
happy to trade your tomatoes.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But they took the peppers, so they took the plants.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
They took the plants. Really, Oh yeah, they mowed them down.
Like it's like anyway, I wish my mower worked as
well as they did.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
But I have no idea where I was.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh the other thing that I wanted to talk about,
and kind of you let up to it perfectly for me,
Chris is mother nature in Baton Rouge is not going
to leave an area that's brown brown very long. She's
going to grow something green there. And a lot of
people their tomato plants are starting to play out, the
(31:10):
squirrels of eating their pepper plants, their cucumbers are dining out,
or whatever is starting to die out. Well they just
you know, some people just leave it and then yank
it in the fall, but that promotes a lot of
times weed.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Growth in those areas.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So what I strongly try to get people to do
and it's very very easy to come into any of
the four Klegs locations. Buy a pack of field peace,
take them, spread them out in the area, take your
garden rake, whatever kind of rake them down a little
bit so they're not right on the surface, Water them
(31:44):
a couple times, let them come up.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
If you like field peas, you have an edible crop
coming on. If you don't like field peas, you're improving
your soil. What you're doing is you're helping to prevent
weed growth because you're putting something green there. Some mother
nature doesn't come alongo oh, I got to put a
weed there.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You have a plant there.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
But the beans or peas are actually what we call
nitrogen fixers. They are absorbing nitrogen out of the air,
translocating that down into the root system, creating little nitrogen
nodules on the root system. So what I do at
the end of the season, when I'm ready to plant
my broccoli or cauliflower or whatever in that area, I'd
literally take my weed eater and now I actually have
(32:27):
a hedge trimmer that it's even easier. But I just
cut all that off, throw the green into my compost
pile and I leave the root system that way. Every
single one of those little nodules is in there, and
it's going to release nitrogen for my broccoli. Some people
go through and pull them, and those nodules are loose
enough on the roots that most of them get yanked
(32:47):
off when you do that. But again, the roots are
just going to deteriorate in there. You're going to keep
all the nitrogen in the soil and it's going to
constantly enrich your salt. And what's a pack of field
piece three bucks two fifty.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yes, three dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, they're very inexpensive and it's a very easy crop
to grow. Something to do. You know, what do we
do with the kids this summer? You know, one morning,
take them out there, have them throw the peas out
and tap them down in the soil water and then
you know, once a week or so they can go
out and look at it and they'll be up in
three to four days.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And it's kind of exciting for kids too. I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
As a kid, I'm not a huge fan of field
peas eating them right now, but you never know, you
might encourage them to go out and pick some and
they might even eat them.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So basically you're planning a cover crop and we get peas,
you get a cover crop.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Right, that was excellent. I wish I had come.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Up with that learn from you, but yeah, that is
something very easy to do. You know, again, it's a
transition from your spring garden to your fog garden. If
you're not doing the ochre, if you're not doing some
of the other products or the plants that we talked about,
it's definitely an easy way to go. You're listening to
news radio eleven fifty wjbo's lawn and garden shows. Butcherrews,
(34:00):
I am here with Chris Herman for another few minutes.
Give us a call for two six. That's four nine
nine w JBO. A lot of actually cover crop thing
was excellent. One of the things we discussed during and
people you don't realize that during the break we're very
busy kind of bouncing ideas off each other and trying
to figure out what we're going to do for the
(34:21):
next segment. But there's also a cover crop that can
be used for the winter, and that would be your
crimson clover. And again that's not for right now, but
we do sell and we do sell an inoculated seed
at the store. But for those of you that are
interested in the cover crop idea, there is something available
for the winter also. But what are Hydrange's plan of
(34:45):
the week last week? Coming into bloom Limelight, little lime,
did you get some white wedding in? I don't know, Okay,
I think we I think there were some un available
came in from live oak this week. But that is
a again, as we discussed last week with the Hydrangees,
Limelight was the original peniculata and they've been working over
(35:10):
the years to shrink the size and make the plant
more compact. And actually the blooms when the peniculata has
come out tend to be kind of a reddish, have
a reddish shoe to them, and they turn or green
I'm sorry, greenish shoe kind of turn white and then
have a little red towards the end. Where white wedding
is one of the newer ones that comes out very
(35:32):
pure white and it is a very very nice one.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I'm sure we've discussed this before.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Even though they say O plant, thank you, no, I
highly recommend you give them some afternoon shade July and August,
early September when it's ninety something.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Degrees degrees, they will burn or just won't look good.
And it's a plant that wants moisture but does not
want wet feet by any stretch of the imagination. So
again another plug for micro irrigation or proper irrigating a plant.
You want to keep a good even moisture on there.
You don't want to have the peaks and valleys.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
And you're mentioning in the color. You know, in the fall,
that limelight kind of turns a pinkish, reddish hue. It
doesn't do as well as if you look on the
back of the tag that comes with it, because we
don't get that cool that fast.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I've had customers come in say they've seen them in
Tennessee or North Alabama and they just have beautiful color,
which they do, but we're just so hot here.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It still performs well, don't get me.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Wrong, it still does a very good job, but it's
you just don't get that color that because we don't
really have a fall.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, and I mean the leaf color typically a lot
of times it leaves, even in some afternoon shade have
deteriorated to a point where we really don't get a
lot of color out of them. Yes, here, but excellent
plant anything else knew and interesting coming into the store.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Does it have to be green?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
No, No, So at the Seagan store we brought in
some lodge cast iron pots. So I'm interested to see
how that was. Just trying something different. Now, I'm sure
people know or remember out there after the big flood,
the great flood of twenty sixteen, when nailors joined us,
y'all brought in the worst day of your life, right,
(37:26):
you know, I appreciate everything I've learned from you. And
Johnny lost me, make me lose my train of thought.
But y'all brought in hardware. So we brought in hardware
at the Seagan store and it just didn't sell as
well as we thought. So we've been trying to change
some things here and there. Now our Denim Spring store
has a great hardware department. You know, they do a
(37:48):
very good job. But we just try and change some things.
We actually discontinued some solar lighting. It kind of slowed down,
but we brought in these cast iron pots and we'll
see how they do.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, it's the cookwear thing. And you know there's stores
in the Batnerge area that are known for it. But again,
it's something and that's one of the things that Tom Fennel,
the owner of Cleg's Nursery, you know, discussed with us.
We want to have items that are somewhat related to
the outdoor.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Experience there. That's the word I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And a lot of people nowadays with the outdoor kitchens
and all the large cookwear is a very it is
just something that you know a lot of people that
are going to be outdoors in their kitchens in their
yards will be using. So that's an excellent product to
pick up, very good quality. There's you know a lot
of other the lights just went out, Bill, Yeah, the
(38:46):
elevators that work and the lights go out. But yeah,
that's that's an interesting new item at the store. I
was actually in there the other day when you were
setting up the display. It looks very, very good. One
of the things that you've been doing a lot of rearranging.
Obviously I had screwed things up to tremendously at Sega
because it looks really great right now.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
But you've gotten back into the boots and the sloggers
and yes, move them, yes, so you can see them. Yes,
but extra tough boots.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But it was really interesting here.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
We had basically a storeroom for our extra wind chimes,
totally visible, and our sloggers were hitting.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Showed you just how we're not.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
We're great gardeners when it comes to merchandising, we lack
at the boots.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I haven't actually seen those.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
What's what's the the extra tough Yeah, I guess they're
about ankle high boots made of I guess it's all rubber,
so you can wear them out in the garden like
g at your feet wet.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Unless, of course, you'd get into deep a water and
it goes over the top exactly. Okay, I need to
write that down because I'll never remember that high boots
for that. But anyway, so yeah, a lot of new
ms Bonnie has been and a lot of that excellent
little employee over there.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
So wow, music, I guess it's time to go. All right,
you got to go get ready for the game. That's true,
Go Tigers.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
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Anyway, I thought this was a lawn and garden show,
not first grade.
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Well, it's basically the same thing. Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Interesting weather week, yes, some rain, yes, and heavy rains.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yes, it was. It was good to get the rain.
Our ground was getting rather parched.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That's one of the issues that I have with some customers,
not all customers, but they come in and you know,
ask what's going on with their with their plants. And
you've been doing this much longer than me. I've been
with Kelegs for thirty two years. But we pretty much
can tell what the problem is. And a lot of
times it's dry. Oh but we got some rain and
(03:33):
we didn't two weeks ago, weeks ago, and a lot
of times these heavy afternoon thunderstorm storms that we get,
it's really not enough to soak into the ground well.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And not only that, that's an excellent point, but one
of the things I try to always tell people is
whenever you have a rain, the best way to tell
how good that rain is is how much water is
in the street. Yes, because if it rains too hard,
too fast, you're gonna everything's gonna run off. It's gonna
be in the gutters, and it's gonna go out in
(04:06):
the ditch. Where you want these nice slow Yesterday morning
started out very hard, but then it kind of did
a light rain for several hours afterwards, which was perfect.
I would have liked to have had the light rain
the whole time, as opposed to the tree.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Limbs down in my yard.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
But yes, you want the same thing, you know, And
just to segue into what we tell people when they
when they have to water, you don't want to sit
there with you know, the hose full blast with your
thumb on the end of it, squirting at a plant,
because it's all going to roll off. You want a
nice sprinkler system, micro irrigation system, whatever it is that's
(04:46):
gonna disperse water slowly.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Soak in exactly, because if you're holding your finger over
the hose, you're probably washing some of the soil away. Yes,
but most of it, like you said earlier, is going
to just sproll off.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So soak in.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So we need to thoroughly soak those roots. The leaves
don't really need it, it's the roots that need it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Really really wow, Is that what the roots you are
there for? Yes? I would thought they were just there.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
To reach your end air they need here too.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I thought they were just there to root around. Oh lord,
come on, you set me up for that.
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Please know tomorrow is Father's Day, so dad jokes will
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Thank you.
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For six nine nine w JBO with your favorite dad
joke would be appreciated. No, but that's very important. And
some plants will tell you or show you again, as
you said, we've been both you know together, we've been
at this almost eighty something years. I feel old. Yeah,
(05:54):
some plants will tell you. They'll will the leaves will
droop down, they will this color. Lot of times you
can tell a dry plant because it's not as bright green.
And some plants are very good about recovering once you
put moisture on. There are certain plants that once they
go dry, you might as well pack that thing up
(06:17):
and put it out at the curb. It's not going
to recover. It's not going to recover. Plants have what
they call a wilting coefficient. It is the point at
which they will wilt. And some of your softer leaf
an azalea, for instance, which is a bad example because
if an azelle drives out a lot of times it's
very difficult to rehydrate them. Even though but like some
(06:42):
of your bedding plants, they'll droop down, Salvia, they'll droop down.
You water, they pop right back up. Everything's fine. A camellia,
a holly, some of your harder leafed plants. There, wilting
coefficient is very I can't remember if it's low or high.
But if you get a wilt on one of those plants,
it's gone. It's not coming back. So a lot of
(07:03):
times what you'll notice on those plants is a lightning
of the color or discoloration of the leaves. If you
can get water on them again, a slow water that
can get absorbed in, you have a chance. But the
most important thing, and I've always told people, and you're
more than welcome to disagree with me, even though you'd
be wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
If you do, it's about two inches of rain a week.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Or two inches of watering most of the time will
keep your plants healthy.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I had an inch and a half in my head,
but an inch and a half issue inches. Yeah, yeah,
that's exactly a nice slow drizzle. And you don't have
to do that all in one shot.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
In fact, it be better if you do it in
a couple correct to you know, to one inch, say
on Tuesday, and one inch on Friday, and that would
be a perfect thing. And you know, most people if
you have a micro irrigation system, which we promote constantly
on this radio show because it is the best thing
you can do in your lawn. And it's very easy,
(08:01):
as we've mentioned several times. But run your system for
about an hour and that should give you about what
would be equivalent to an inch of rain. The other
thing you can do is that we actually sell at
the store. I think they still do little like they're
actually called irrigation gauges. They look like small rain gauges
that you can set out there and they'll let you know, okay, wow,
(08:23):
I've got an inch of water in there.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's perfect. I just ran it for an hour and
a half to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, there, you know you want to run your system
an hour and a half twice a week.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So that's another way of doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
The other thing, and this is one of the things
I really try to get people because, as you said,
people go why watered two weeks ago? Go out by
yourself a little inexpensive They're called trials or shovel or
you can use your hand, or you can use a
sharp stick, or you can use whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Spoon a spoon.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Dig down when you get done watering, especially mister thumb
on the end of the hose, dig down and see
exactly how far.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That water has gone down.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
If you you know, mister thumb on the end of
the hose, I can guarantee you you stood out there
for thirty five seconds.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And you've maybe wet your mulch. You have no ground.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And actually that's a negative because if you do shallow
watering every time, the plants are going to send their
roots up into that zone trying to get that moisture,
so they become much more drought intolerant because they don't
have a nice deep root system. So you really want
to get your watering deep into the ground so the
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roots will stay throughout the strata of the soil and
not all come up to the surface.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, we've discussed this before on the show in the past.
I don't know who's telling these people, but several of
the people that come in have sprinkler systems and they
run them for five minutes every day, which you don't
need to water every day, but five minutes is nothing.
I even think that keeps the dust down. No, it doesn't.
(10:06):
I tell the story of I went to my in
law's house. They live in Texas, and they were in
a drought. They live in a gated community, and I
know everybody in that neighborhood has a sprinkler system, and
almost everybody's lawn was brown, and their shrubs just didn't
look very good. So I got to my mother in
law's house and I asked her, what's your sprinkler set to? Oh,
it's ten minutes every day. Said that's wrong. Get your spoon,
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get your try, get you I went out and I
ran it for ten minutes. Then I waited ten minutes
and I dug down and it was a quarter of
an inch half an inch.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm surprised that was dust. Yeah, I'm surprised it was
even that deep.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So I changed it. I bumped it up to thirty minutes.
I just, you know, so let's try this. That was
a start, and this was towards the end of the summer,
so we're starting to get cooler. And she called me
a month later and said everything was green. I mean,
it makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And that was another excellent point Chris is we can
tell you thirty minutes, forty five minutes. But again, the
little rain I'm gonna call it a rain gauge or
sprinkler gauge will tell you, spoon trial whatever, dig down
a little bit. Thirty minutes is probably a minimum. I
would think, Yes, you may so depends on your soil.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It does very much.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You know, if you have a good soil that has
peat moss that's going to help retain that moisture, you
may not need to run it as long, or if
you have a well drained soil, it might just go
right through it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's one of the things that I really like about
Cleggs's raised bed blend as opposed to the garden soil,
and they sell both both of good products. But I've
always been of the impression that you can add water.
It's very difficult to take water out where the raised
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bed blend does drain very quickly. If you're going six
to eight inches. Add some peat moss Chris just said,
to help hold some moisture in there where I think
a lot of times the garden soil with the river
silt in it can hold a little bit more moisture.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So, yes, it's at war, it's a little heads. It's
not a little more. It's a lot heavier that it is. Yes,
but it's a great soil and.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Almost I almost think opposite of the way we sell
them for is the raised bed blend to me?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is it better?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yes, you can use it in a raised bed, it's
an excellent product, no negatives here whatsoever. You can use
it in container, but it almost works better if you're
working it into the soil, if you're breaking up existing
soil where the garden soil being heavier. And again that's
not a negative comment on it. It's a positive company
if you want to. And I don't know where this
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became proper way to build beds, but a lot of
landscapers nowadays are just putting the layer of soil over
existing soil. And that's what I think the garden soil
is better for because it is a little bit heavier,
it does hold some moisture. But two excellent soils. That's
why clegg sells two different soils. And ask some of
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the experts at Clegg's, you know, tell them what you're
trying to do, and they will steer you where they
think is best for you as far as that goes.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So I appreciate you dropping knowledge on us, But now
we're going to have customers coming in asking what plants.
What the wilt coefficient of a plant is? Sorry, I
don't know five.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's yes, there actually is numbers involved, but that's not
what the important thing is there. It's just it's the
plant's ability to wilt and then recover from a moisture,
and it's the point at which they start to wilt.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
So you were talking about the wilt coefficient of plants,
dropping some knowledge, and one that has a low wilt
coefficient I believe, I don't know zero point one to
two Lantana plan of the week.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
How do you like that segue? That was really good?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, you're gonna make this thing so professional they
shouldn't allow me in any way, but they do.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Better fix the elevator.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, exactly, can we do a remote from the ground floor.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We're old and fat?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Uh Lantana, it's a plant for I'm wonna say the
more mature listeners they got ooh, ham and eggs. Because
when I grew up, probably you in New Orleans the
same way, Lantana was what they called ham and eggs,
and it was a large shrub typically grew six to
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eight foot, you know, bloomed throughout the summer. You know,
just was okay, great, love that plant type thing. But
it has come so far. Oh yes, I mean they've
been around forever. I mean and again grown up in
New Orleans. You walk around it's almost like a weed.
I mean it comes up from underneath the raised houses, right, but.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You have to drive around them in the street.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
No, very very hardy perennial come back every year, can
tolerate dry conditions, blooms all summer along. Of course, there's
some newer varieties that bloom better than the older variety.
The new bandana. I put one in my yard called
passion fruit. Unbelievable, and it's a short one. It only
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gets about twelve to fourteen inches tall. That's it is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's it. Yeah, that's the one Shirley plants at our house.
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
In fact, I had to get Braiden to send some
over from Color Division. They had weren't quite ready for retail.
But Shirley it's good. I mean she can plant that
type stuff and it's not problem. But yeah, that kind
of went from the ham and eggs, the big growing
ones kind of went totally opposite. They went, there's a
purple and then the new gold Lantanas where the first
(15:59):
i'm gonna say newer ones that came out, and both
of those are considered more ground covers.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But since then the whole bandit the passion Fruit.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Though I can't even think of all the different names
of some of the bandana series.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I wrote it down, so Bandana, Bandido, Lucky Landmark, Yeah,
the old some of the old favorites which I haven't
seen lately, but Dallas red Irene, there's a trailing white.
You had mentioned the trailing lavender and the new Gold.
That's the trailing Gold.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
One of the things that had kind of and that
was when we were dealing with more of the trailing white,
the purple, the Dallas reds, some of those that you
just mentioned. We were getting an insect called lace wing
or lace bugs were actually.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I won't say, ruining the plant.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They would get on there and they would cause the
plant to stop blooming, basically, which is the reason you bought.
Have you noticed and this is a non scientific question,
believe me, it's just but I don't see that being
as much of a problem in the newer series like
the Bandana bandidos, you know, because use plant the passion fruit.
Shirley plants it and it blooms all summer and really
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doesn't seem to have much of a problem with that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Lace wing.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Haven't really paid attention to it. But now that you're
saying that, I think, I think you're correct, And we
still get samples in, right, but we don't know what
it is. They just bring us the leaves and you
can obviously see that it's the lace bug damage, which
I don't know if it's the newer ones or not.
But now that you're thinking, then I'm thinking about it.
I haven't had it in my yard, right, and I
have the newer ones.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, Okay, So I mean you've seen the same thing
that I am too, So yeah, that's that's an interesting thing.
I don't know if they've bred some resistance or maybe
they just don't taste as good.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, but no, Lantana's typically.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Will come in reds, yellows, oranges, whites, you'll get some lavenders.
One of the other things that used to occur when
you Dallas red keeps popping in my head because they
as the heat came on, would tend to go more
yellow and they would lose a lot of the coloration,
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where again the newer bandana series don't seem to do
that because that passion fruit is what is it. It's like
a yellow. There's an orangish color. I'm even say a
little bit of a red color in there, maybe light
red color. Pink, pink yellow, okay, pink, yeah, pink as
opposed to red. It tends to hold that color all
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year long, or at least all summer, and again it
will get killed back in the winter at some point,
just mulch the root system, prune it back in the
spring and they come back very strong.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
And that's small mound, and I mean it's just covered
with flowers. I've been very pleased with it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Not to get away from the plant of the week,
which is lantana this week, but kawhi vinca. Do some
white ones behind it or with it? Ooh man, justly God, Yes,
it looks really good. If Martha Stewart is calling, yes, that's.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm going by what my wife. Believe me she is.
She is the plant person.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I were talking about lantana and lace bugs. You know
if you do have lace bugs, so that's kind of
looks like a modeled leaf. It's got little white specks
on it. From a distance, it looks almost white. Do
you have to do glue to model with the model? No?
Quit interrupted me. Okay, this is excellence right here.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
That's four ninebo.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
If you look on the bottom, you usually don't see
the lace bug. Unfortunately, we usually see the damage. We
don't see the bug. But if you look on the bottom,
you'll see little brown specs and that, of course is
their honeydew.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
They're they're excrement.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
But we still want to treat and usually at the
best treatment, and you can use an oil, but you
need to be careful when we get up into the nineties.
Using an oil, you can burn if you do want
to use it, use it early in the morning or
late in the evening when it's a little bit cooler.
I recommend the systemic insect spray because that's going to
be a contact killer as well as systemic is going
to pull it inside of the plant, so any sucking
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or chewing insect that comes along it is going to
continue to take care of that insect. There's also a drench,
but the drench is more for a would you agree
is more for a preventative.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yes, oh very much. It's a preventative. Do that early
on in the season.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The one thing that and I don't mean to disagree
with you, because what you're saying is exactly right.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I prefer not to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Use the spray because one of the benefits of lantana
is the butterflies. Yes, and using the spray sometimes that
can't affect the butterflies, or if you use the drench
it won't. So you know, sometimes if you have if
you have the new gold, if you have the purple trailing,
the white trailing, probably wouldn't hurt to do the prevention
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because those those varieties in particular will get tore up.
And watch your bandan if you start to see that,
go ahead and do the drench, which is a preventative.
But it will kick in quick enough if you catch
it early, So that's one thing to look for. But yeah,
I just you know, again, because of the butterflies, I
do like to the oil spray isn't going to affect them. Again,
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if you do it early in the morning, you're not
going to accidentally hit a butterfly with it. But yeah,
the systemic spray sometimes can cause some issues with the butterflies.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yes, correct, so, but it is quicker to get it. It
is a system it is you need to protect the butterflies,
You're correct.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, if if another thing you can do if it
gets really bad is just cut the plant, trim the
plant back, put a little fertilizer on it, and they'll
grow right back out of it. But again, if you
know you've had the problem at that point, use the preventative.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
What is the name is it? Tree and Shrub drench.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Bertile own Tree and shrub Systemic insect drench. Okay, Yeah,
it's kind of a blue bottle. I think you'll you'll
probably have an end cap of it this time.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yere.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
No, it's actually a product better to get it in
earlier doesn't mean you can't use it now, but I mean,
we're we already have the problems right now, we already
have the insects. But you know, try and do it
when the plant starts leafing out mid to late March
into April.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Chris Hermon, manager of one of the four locations of Clegg's.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Nursery in the Greater Baton Ridge area. You're at Siegen Lane.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
We also have the store in mid city on don
More Greenwell Springs Road, real close to Sherwood Forest Boulevard intersection,
and then the Denhim Springs location Range Road, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Five miles north of the interstate. I'm so impressed that
you can do that on the segway. Can you get
down before you break it?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Hip? Or did you have a segue? I wrote a
segue once. It's kind of cool. We did it in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, City, you wouldn't do it because you wanted to
impress the boss by working.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Some people had to work.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Oh yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Anyway, My segue was we were talking about the systemic
drench in the use on lantana for lace wing or
lace bug prevention. That is probably one of the products
that people need to know more about and we need
to promote it more, especially when we're selling particular types
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of plants. Furtilo systemic tree and shrub Drench is what
we typically sell for shrubbery.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, we also have the brand brand BioAdvance, which is
sold for vegetables.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yes, you vegetable gardeners. Listen up the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Whenever you used the pre emergent not pre emergent systemic
insecticide in plants, there's what we call a days to harvest.
It's the number of days that you have to stop
using the product before you actually harvest. And for most
of the crops this very generalized statement, So don't just
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run all over who you said it was twenty one days.
It is typically three to four weeks on most crops.
But what's good about it is, especially if you're doing
summertime tomatoes. One of the biggest issues we have is
leaf miners. Yes, and people come in with the road
maps on their tomato leaves. Oh goodness, what am I
going to do? Well, if you're planning your summer tomatoes
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or fall tomatoes or some people like to call them,
use this BioAdvance what was his name?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Again, there's a couple of them. There's the bio Advanced
rose and flour. That's not the one you want to
use on your vegetables, no, but it's bio advance fruit citrus.
No vegetables citrus and fruit, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Anyway, it's got pictures of it's orange. It's a blue
orange label, blue bottle orange, and it has like fruit
all over it. So it's pretty easy for why are
you smirking but not taking it? They need a curtain.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
You had discussed earlier about the days to harvest, and
we're talking about that these names. You know, you the
customer or the end user needs to read the instructions,
you know, I mean, that's what you're paying for. When
you're paying for that, is that that's research that they've done.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And it is actually the consumer's legal responsibility too, because
we can don't don't call somebody up and so well,
the guy at Clegg's nursery set it doesn't matter. Yes,
we try to give out and we you know, give
out information. There a lot of times, you know, I've
been at this longer than I'd like to remember. There
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were times that I'd open up at a label and
look at it because there's you know, I don't even
know how many different chemicals we sell. I can't remember
all of them. So I still do that. I mean
they've changed over the y and they have improved them.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
They've taken some that were they considered more detrimental off
the market and brought some newer wings in. So yeah,
but I read the label too. But yes, that's your
responsibility when you purchase and use that product.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
But there are certain plants out there in that we
sell the Clegg cells, and they're good plants. And again
I'm not doing anything negative. Crape myrtle is the one
that comes to mind. They're going to get aphids, leaf
hoppers that create I like the way you said honey
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dew or excrement which is going to cause a plant
to turn black. Guardenias are going to get it. This
product if you use it, and I usually recommend waiting
till May or early June where we are right now
to use the product because the problem really hasn't started yet.
And as Chris said, this is a preventative, it's not
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a cure. Come in, get the product. It's very easy
to apply. You mix it up in a gallon of water.
Depending on the diameter or the height of the plant,
and you pour it right at the base of the
tree or shrub and it's absorbed through the rootsys.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And you're not going to have the problem.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Right, is any insect that comes and is chewing on
that leaf or sucking on that leaf, it's going to die.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yes, you don't have to worry organizing death.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
So you don't have to worry about spraying in the
heat or spraying when there's pollinators. Right, So use the
systemic drench and motion. Use it earlier in the season.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right by Burnum, a plant that gained a lot of
popularity there for a few years as a lagustrium replacement.
Is it is whitefly habitat, so very simple to do,
very easy to do. It does take a quantity. I'm
going to use that word. Don't again. Read the label. Okay,
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if the shrub is four foot tall, it's going to
tell you X amount of ounces a chemical.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
You want to do that?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, well, I don't think I really need three ounces
per foot.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Let's just use an ounce. Well, you're wasting your money,
you know. And if you use four ounces, you're wasting
your mond.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Because they've figured out how much you need to get
into that tree, right. And a lot of times you'll
read on the labor will say one ounce, but it's
actually one ounce per inch of diameter trunk or as
you said earlier, or one inch per height of trunks.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So it's usually I mean it could add up.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yes, you get up to thirty two ounces, even a gallon, right,
And it doesn't really tell you to mix it with
a gallon of water or one hundred gallons of water.
It's enough water to get the product down to the roofs,
kind of like our watering thing.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You don't want to you know, you don't want to
have so little water that it can't absorb down into
the roots.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
You don't want it all just be in poon a
water to an ounce. Is it going to go very far?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I usually use it like a mop bucket or a
five gallon bucket. I just fill that up and pour
it slowly, slowly. Yes, four two six, that's four nine nine.
WJBO get you put smac dab on our list, and
we would appreciate any calls or any questions. You might
have kind of talked a little bit there about fall tomatoes,
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anything else planting in the garden right now, hot peppers. Okra,
you can still plant okra? Yep, egg plant?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Are we on the.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Verb no eggplants? You're fine with eggplant. And if you
want to do your fall air quotes tomatoes any availability
yet or there's there's a few, Yes, we do have some.
It's a lot of newer ones.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, I know, Johnny went over with him me the
other day.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I can't remember the new name.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Just look for the word heat or Florida or sun
and you're probably going to be okay with that. But yeah,
that is one thing that I noticed right before I left,
and I went in a week or so ago and
looked at him like, I have no idea what these
varieties are, so I guess someone how Ninja comes to
my head? But is that the pepper? That's the pepper pepper?
(29:50):
And actually I think we promoted it last week. That is,
I grew it exceptionally well last year in our garden. Peppers,
especially bell peppers or the true sweet peppers, have a
tendency to get a bacterial speck and it will destroy
the plants, just basically kill them out. Ninja and tradition
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are two newer varieties. I believe it's ninja is resistant
to all of the specs, and it last year did
extremely well. This year, however, we determine that it is
not resistant to squirrels.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I guess they taste good. Apparently they do, because they
have just mowed them down.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So anybody with extra bell peppers, I'll be more than
happy to trade your tomatoes.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But they took the peppers, so they took the plants.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
They took the plants. Really, Oh yeah, they mowed them down.
Like it's like anyway, I wish my mower worked as
well as they did.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
But I have no idea where I was.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh the other thing that I wanted to talk about,
and kind of you let up to it perfectly for me,
Chris is mother nature in Baton Rouge is not going
to leave an area that's brown brown very long. She's
going to grow something green there. And a lot of
people their tomato plants are starting to play out, the
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squirrels of eating their pepper plants, their cucumbers are dining out,
or whatever is starting to die out. Well they just
you know, some people just leave it and then yank
it in the fall, but that promotes a lot of
times weed.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Growth in those areas.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So what I strongly try to get people to do
and it's very very easy to come into any of
the four Klegs locations. Buy a pack of field peace,
take them, spread them out in the area, take your
garden rake, whatever kind of rake them down a little
bit so they're not right on the surface, Water them
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a couple times, let them come up.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
If you like field peas, you have an edible crop
coming on. If you don't like field peas, you're improving
your soil. What you're doing is you're helping to prevent
weed growth because you're putting something green there. Some mother
nature doesn't come alongo oh, I got to put a
weed there.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You have a plant there.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
But the beans or peas are actually what we call
nitrogen fixers. They are absorbing nitrogen out of the air,
translocating that down into the root system, creating little nitrogen
nodules on the root system. So what I do at
the end of the season, when I'm ready to plant
my broccoli or cauliflower or whatever in that area, I'd
literally take my weed eater and now I actually have
(32:27):
a hedge trimmer that it's even easier. But I just
cut all that off, throw the green into my compost
pile and I leave the root system that way. Every
single one of those little nodules is in there, and
it's going to release nitrogen for my broccoli. Some people
go through and pull them, and those nodules are loose
enough on the roots that most of them get yanked
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off when you do that. But again, the roots are
just going to deteriorate in there. You're going to keep
all the nitrogen in the soil and it's going to
constantly enrich your salt. And what's a pack of field
piece three bucks two fifty.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yes, three dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, they're very inexpensive and it's a very easy crop
to grow. Something to do. You know, what do we
do with the kids this summer? You know, one morning,
take them out there, have them throw the peas out
and tap them down in the soil water and then
you know, once a week or so they can go
out and look at it and they'll be up in
three to four days.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And it's kind of exciting for kids too. I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
As a kid, I'm not a huge fan of field
peas eating them right now, but you never know, you
might encourage them to go out and pick some and
they might even eat them.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So basically you're planning a cover crop and we get peas,
you get a cover crop.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Right, that was excellent. I wish I had come.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Up with that learn from you, but yeah, that is
something very easy to do. You know, again, it's a
transition from your spring garden to your fog garden. If
you're not doing the ochre, if you're not doing some
of the other products or the plants that we talked about,
it's definitely an easy way to go. You're listening to
news radio eleven fifty wjbo's lawn and garden shows. Butcherrews,
(34:00):
I am here with Chris Herman for another few minutes.
Give us a call for two six. That's four nine
nine w JBO. A lot of actually cover crop thing
was excellent. One of the things we discussed during and
people you don't realize that during the break we're very
busy kind of bouncing ideas off each other and trying
to figure out what we're going to do for the
(34:21):
next segment. But there's also a cover crop that can
be used for the winter, and that would be your
crimson clover. And again that's not for right now, but
we do sell and we do sell an inoculated seed
at the store. But for those of you that are
interested in the cover crop idea, there is something available
for the winter also. But what are Hydrange's plan of
(34:45):
the week last week? Coming into bloom Limelight, little lime,
did you get some white wedding in? I don't know, Okay,
I think we I think there were some un available
came in from live oak this week. But that is
a again, as we discussed last week with the Hydrangees,
Limelight was the original peniculata and they've been working over
(35:10):
the years to shrink the size and make the plant
more compact. And actually the blooms when the peniculata has
come out tend to be kind of a reddish, have
a reddish shoe to them, and they turn or green
I'm sorry, greenish shoe kind of turn white and then
have a little red towards the end. Where white wedding
is one of the newer ones that comes out very
(35:32):
pure white and it is a very very nice one.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I'm sure we've discussed this before.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Even though they say O plant, thank you, no, I
highly recommend you give them some afternoon shade July and August,
early September when it's ninety something.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Degrees degrees, they will burn or just won't look good.
And it's a plant that wants moisture but does not
want wet feet by any stretch of the imagination. So
again another plug for micro irrigation or proper irrigating a plant.
You want to keep a good even moisture on there.
You don't want to have the peaks and valleys.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
And you're mentioning in the color. You know, in the fall,
that limelight kind of turns a pinkish, reddish hue. It
doesn't do as well as if you look on the
back of the tag that comes with it, because we
don't get that cool that fast.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I've had customers come in say they've seen them in
Tennessee or North Alabama and they just have beautiful color,
which they do, but we're just so hot here.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It still performs well, don't get me.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Wrong, it still does a very good job, but it's
you just don't get that color that because we don't
really have a fall.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, and I mean the leaf color typically a lot
of times it leaves, even in some afternoon shade have
deteriorated to a point where we really don't get a
lot of color out of them. Yes, here, but excellent
plant anything else knew and interesting coming into the store.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Does it have to be green?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
No, No, So at the Seagan store we brought in
some lodge cast iron pots. So I'm interested to see
how that was. Just trying something different. Now, I'm sure
people know or remember out there after the big flood,
the great flood of twenty sixteen, when nailors joined us,
y'all brought in the worst day of your life, right,
(37:26):
you know, I appreciate everything I've learned from you. And
Johnny lost me, make me lose my train of thought.
But y'all brought in hardware. So we brought in hardware
at the Seagan store and it just didn't sell as
well as we thought. So we've been trying to change
some things here and there. Now our Denim Spring store
has a great hardware department. You know, they do a
(37:48):
very good job. But we just try and change some things.
We actually discontinued some solar lighting. It kind of slowed down,
but we brought in these cast iron pots and we'll
see how they do.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, it's the cookwear thing. And you know there's stores
in the Batnerge area that are known for it. But again,
it's something and that's one of the things that Tom Fennel,
the owner of Cleg's Nursery, you know, discussed with us.
We want to have items that are somewhat related to
the outdoor.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Experience there. That's the word I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And a lot of people nowadays with the outdoor kitchens
and all the large cookwear is a very it is
just something that you know a lot of people that
are going to be outdoors in their kitchens in their
yards will be using. So that's an excellent product to
pick up, very good quality. There's you know a lot
of other the lights just went out, Bill, Yeah, the
(38:46):
elevators that work and the lights go out. But yeah,
that's that's an interesting new item at the store. I
was actually in there the other day when you were
setting up the display. It looks very, very good. One
of the things that you've been doing a lot of rearranging.
Obviously I had screwed things up to tremendously at Sega
because it looks really great right now.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
But you've gotten back into the boots and the sloggers
and yes, move them, yes, so you can see them. Yes,
but extra tough boots.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But it was really interesting here.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
We had basically a storeroom for our extra wind chimes,
totally visible, and our sloggers were hitting.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Showed you just how we're not.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
We're great gardeners when it comes to merchandising, we lack
at the boots.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I haven't actually seen those.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
What's what's the the extra tough Yeah, I guess they're
about ankle high boots made of I guess it's all rubber,
so you can wear them out in the garden like
g at your feet wet.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Unless, of course, you'd get into deep a water and
it goes over the top exactly. Okay, I need to
write that down because I'll never remember that high boots
for that. But anyway, so yeah, a lot of new
ms Bonnie has been and a lot of that excellent
little employee over there.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
So wow, music, I guess it's time to go. All right,
you got to go get ready for the game. That's true,
Go Tigers.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
You've been listening to news radio eleven fifty WJBOS Lona
Garden Show.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
We are Cleg's Nursery. We are here every Saturday morning from.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Eight to nine to hopefully entertain you, teach you a
thing or two, and learn a lot more.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
From you than you'll ever learn from us.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But again, we'll see you next Saturday morning eight to nine.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
You're listening to the.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
News radio eleven to fifty wjbos lawna Garden Show. Have
a great day and go Tigers.
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