October 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Answering your questions like fighting fire ants, sod webworms and more this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with our OGs from Clegg's Nursery - Butch and Scott! OGs are original gardeners, by the way.
Also, tips for preparing for fall like winterizer timing!
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Also, tips for preparing for fall like winterizer timing!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lon and
Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, Lon and Garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine six.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, and welcome to news radio eleven to fifty
wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is Butch Drews,
and with me is I'm not sir. Could you introduce
yourself as soon.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
As I get my life to come on said you
said everything was fixed.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I told you that flight. It's kind of like in
the contract. Good morning, mister Rica.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Good morning, mister Drews. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Long time, no suit has been a long time. I'm
trying to figure out. We've had some issues with some
of the people that do the show don't like working
out of this chair with the board, so we've kind
of had to split up over Yeah, so it's nice
to be back together again.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And we were having a conversation during our hours hours
of planning trying to figure out exactly when we started
to get I think I think it was around ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Five yeah, we should be a lot better at it.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We should be.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We need the Yeah, there were actual employees and threw
a salary, we'd be gone.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
We'd get the same salary.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We'd be getting the same salary we get now, we
would even we wouldn't even be getting salary.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
So anyway, beautiful weather, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, but I got to tell you. I was telling
Jeremy before you showed up. You know, it was about
four thirty. I know we were scheduled to meet at five. Yeah, yeah,
I got to leave immediately after the show because on
my way here, and this is going to really upset
my wife, I saw a driveway sale.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I will go buy that driveway and.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I need a new mine's full. You know, I'm not
going to a garage.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You should have been here last week Kenilworth. I had
to drop something off in Kenilworth on.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
My way here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You could have gotten a great deal because there was
so many garage sales there.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You could have negotiated and got whatever you wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I could have whittled the price town that garage. And yeah,
you know what I like to buy garage sales old
garden tools.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I don't know why I used to do that all
the time.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Of course, I hadn't been to a garage sale in
a very long time because most of the time they were.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Set up on days where ID at the store.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We've we've got a listener that I won't call him
out by name.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
But Fred likes to or whatever his name is, likes
to go to garage sales and buy potting soil. Yeah, no,
not me.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You can you can get it.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
There's always a cheap potting soil you can buy somewhere
without having to worry about parking and turning.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It out to your car.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I think I gave Fred his greatest gift ever given
to him.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Oh was that?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And then I unfortunately then you yanked it away. He
lost it in the flood. But I had another one,
so I gave it to him.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And what was that?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
A bag with a thousand hose washers in it.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I keep a garbage can behind the garage full of
I'll bring home like a broken bag of sol and
I put it in there. I always need soil, so
you know, I hate to like, Oh I need some soil.
Let me go to the stores, like, oh, I need
to do something. I walked to the back of the garage,
and I've already got it, so I just try to
keep it topped off when I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So, if you had this trash can in New Orleans,
you would have to add water to it all the
time because it dirt.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
In New Orleans mud, it's mud, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I don't know why they call it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Bill Roundree and I were having a discussion about this
earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, Scott, hold on, just to say, we're gonna have
some really intelligent conversation here.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I know, I actually have a question about the garbage
can full of soil. Is different types of potting soils sometimes?
Does that matter or impact its quality or use?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I don't see different kinds.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I don't put junk soil in it. Okay, Okay, Well,
like different brands, I guess I could say if it
is a distinct difference. Let's say there's a broken bag
of back toe. Well, back toe holds a lot of water,
and I don't like my soils to hold a lot
of water because plants can say too wet. I would
(04:28):
rather water it extra than watch it die from staying
too wet.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
You can always add water, you can't take it away.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So if I dump some of that in, I will
actually blend it through with the stuff below it, so
I have a more homogeneous mix.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
How many slaves was that one? To make sure we
didn't bust the filter or something?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
If you want to twenty five years to think of
that word.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
What was the word again?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
If you have really large words that you would like
to say to us, give us a call.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I think you've lost everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, four two, six ib We shouldn't have come in
a fourth. Maybe it was a six scups of coffee.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Dyet Mountain like a spider monkey.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Here. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's cool, the flags are blowing, there's a breeze.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Go out in your yard and look around this morning.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It is good. Nor need a spare driveway.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
There's one on their sale, and which you probably don't
have to do. You probably don't have to worry about
going to mow the grass because they haven't been rated.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So yehow however, oh, fortunately, I don't think anybody is listening,
so this won't be a big secret. But as I
was mowing, well, trying to figure out where I had
mowed my grass, I noticed something.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Little butterflies?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Uh? Oh, kind of kind of moths?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Name maybe moss is a better word for you.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Is there the stuff that grows in trees Spanish moss?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Sure, but edition with the W JB O dad joke.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Shoot, the little tiny guy's just kind of flitting around everywhere.
Oh were you trying to kill him with the lawnmower?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I did?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You did? Not all of them, though?
Speaker 7 (06:40):
Did?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
No? I kept trying to run them down. I need
to plant some new bushes.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Is that why your yard? The mowing tracks are just
everywhere right through the she So you really yeah, you
really have?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
You really saw? That's not a good thing.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
No, it's not.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
No.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
What are they moths? Why aren't they good things?
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Because they they drop little eggs here and there.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
And did they create caterpillars? They do?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And fillers are usually hungry.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah. Do they eat the grass?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They do?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Are they called sod webworms?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
They could be? Or maybe even army worms?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
M Maybe do they have little tanks?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
They drive on the ground, You're right, not fly. So
one would be the air force and one would be.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The In all seriousness, I was shocked. It's been I
haven't seen them until this last time I mowed. I
don't know if it's because they were so it's been
so dry. Whatever it is, it is the first evidence
of sod. Web Worms are army worms that I've seen,
which can be extremely detrimental to lawns.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Quite often when you're mowing you might see that, especially
if you have a ride in a little more. They'll
kind of be disturbed and flit up in front of you.
They usually stay rather low to the ground and uh yeah,
they just kind of fly around and drop eggs here
and there.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
They can kill your life.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
That is one of the things you want to see.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Some of the things I don't really push as much
treatment on because, like I said, you know, we talk
all the time on the show about Virginia button weed.
I think my lawn is beautiful. It's green with little
white flowers.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, it's like the best flower bed you got.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Huh exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But side web worms or army worms, we really need
to treat for it because, like Scott said, it is
very detrimental to the law.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And if you don't like to use harsh chemicals, you
could spray with spinosa for all that matters. I mean,
it's very very calm to the environment. And you know
the caterpillars when they eat the grass blades, if it
has spinosad on it, that will that will mess up
their digestive system and they'll die. And we won't get
(08:51):
into details about that.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, it's agonizing to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So but and when people put out treatments for soid
web worms, and it's some of the more conventional things.
If you still see some caterpillar, let's some butterflies or
some moths, excuse me, like two days after you've put
out the chemical, that doesn't mean you need to go
(09:16):
put out the chemical.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Again because the moth isn't the problem.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Right, it's the caterpillar and baby.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, the baby, because babies just eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
So if you have.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Something down to control, then he's.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Not teenage anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So if you can stop the stage, the life stage
at the caterpillar, then there won't be more adults to
lay more eggs.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
In the future.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So the amount of moths could diminish. But remember it
they fly, so they could come in from your neighbors
or wherever. So the fact that you still see some
moths I've had people focus on the maths and treat
with some more substantial chemicals than spinosa, said like every week,
because they keep saying moths.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's it's great for clegs.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, it's great for the register, but but we don't
want you, we don't want you to waste your money either.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's definitely not that. But again, the moss are just
laying the eggs. They're really not and their life cycle
is very short.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
So the moss don't eat anything.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
No, they don't.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So you know, even if you see moss a few five, three,
four to five days later, the life cycle is very short.
So typically one treatment spinosa, being that it's an organic,
has a tendency to wear out.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That might that might not last as long, so you
might come in maybe ten days.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, seven to ten days, seven to ten days with
the spinosa. But if you use one of the Granuar
products to fensing some of those uh trade name, uh
bug Blaster, Telstar, you don't have to thirty days, forty
five days. And then benefit about using those is you're
also killing fiance, you're killing fleas, you're killing ticks, mole.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Crickets of those. So it had those have a broader label.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But again I was I was unpleasantly surprised to see
the moss when I was mowing.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
This last time.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I can remember you saying mole crickets reminds me.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
One time I was at an educational thing put on
by L Shoe and it was I don't remember who
it was, but he was one of the L Shoe
agents and was telling people how you could get rid
of molt crickets. And he asked if you had a
one of the old power uh measures, not like the
string trimmers, and he said, you'd go and you'd do
(11:34):
two perpendicular lines through the yard, making a little groove
into the dirt, and then where that intersection between those
two lines, you dig a hole that's big enough to
put a five gallon bucket in, and you put it
all the way down to where the top of the
bucket is a bother that little ridge, because the molt
crickets evidently would come out and follow the path and
then they fall in the bucket. And he said, they're
(11:55):
a really good fish bake. So I don't know many
people that want to dig.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
A hole in the yard for five but it was.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was done for humorous reasons, I'm sure, but you know,
if you want some fish bait.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You used to place co ed softball out on Choctaw
Brett Park out there, and I was playing shortstop and
ground ball hit to me and all of a sudden,
cricket jumps up in my face.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Did you get the ball?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
No, I'm fighting.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Six. Please stop the mats.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We gave out really good information there yet, you know,
and if anybody does actually need to.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Supposed to keep your eyes closed when you go for
ground ball, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
If anybody needs a driveway, it's on Jefferson Highway. Yeah,
we really probably ought to like get some form of well,
I don't even know what professionalism mean, so that would
be hard to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
But give us call four six's four nine nine.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
If you've not been outside yet, don't let this morning
pass you by. Don't let it get away from It's gorgeous.
Take a cup of coffee or butsher your favorite beverage.
Go outside, even if you don't want to go look
at the yard, go get a comfortable chair, just sit outside.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It is absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I was going to the music saved us, but I
was going to ask you because I know the answer.
But you are a huge proponent of moms in the fall,
aren't you. I never could understand why you don't why
you don't suggest marigolds.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I like the way you flip flop that.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That was really well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I know you we've both been in it for
between the two of us.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Don't go there.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, eighty five years.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
So Texas years ago had tried to promote the use
of marigolds in the fall and when people would normally
plant moms. And don't get me wrong, moms are gorgeous
and the variety of colors is I mean, if you
can't get purple mar no, no, and and there's different
(14:04):
styles of moms flowers, but you don't see that many
different ones around the nurseries unfortunately, but you know, the
little button ones and then the regular decorative is what
you normally find. But Texas was trying to promote marygoals
and they called them merry moms, and that.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Hadn't cleaning service.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I think, so, yes, that's older momp from Europe moms,
uh and and they're always so happy. So, but planting moms,
most people don't realize when you buy a mum that
has buds on it. That mum chrysanthemum will not get
any larger in size because once the buds on the
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terminal tip, that that branch does not extend any longer.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So what you buy is what you're that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So now if you leave them in the ground, they
die down a winter time, come back, they can get
some of them can get huge the next year. But
a mom has a real a large burst of color,
and they're's a plant.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's a party plant, that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And then those kind of finish a lot in the
in a short amount of time. Those those flowers are gone,
and then the second set of buds, which will be
smaller in number and probably smaller in size, they start
to swell and give you a second burst of color,
and pretty much that's that's it.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
And that's only going to happen if you pinch the
old ones off.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So, but but a marigold, you put a marigold in,
it's probably already blooming when you get it.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's continually growing.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's making the new buds over and over and over,
and so it's growing and blooming continuously, not in those cycles,
and it'll last till the freeze takes it out Boom
and their fall color colors. How can you beat that
mix that with crotons or cartons? Yes on nostalagy.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Let's find out what Kathy's got going on.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Good morning, Kathy, Welcome to news Radio eleven to fifty
wjbo's line of garden show.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
What can we do for you today?
Speaker 9 (16:02):
I just heard you talking about what to put in
New York to get rid of the fire ants and
the white slies.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
We were suggesting if you the fire ants, you're gonna
want to use a bifenthne based chemical. If you prefer granules,
bug Blaster or Telstar would be our recommendations, and do
that as a broadcast over the entire area. If you're
looking for a liquid, it's bug Blaster and the liquid Polster.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
It comes in.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What I'd love to meet the guy that invented that
little ready to spray nozzle that comes on there.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That just made me realize how lazy I was.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And spray it away.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
If fire ants in particular or the problem. My wife
has had excellent success with amro. It's an old product,
been around forever.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Uh, it's a bait.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's a bait you can sprinkle it around the mound
more so than directly onto the mound.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
But it works, can't.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But the best thing to do is treat a broad
area because there's tons of little colonies that you don't
even realize they're there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, a fire ant mound is a culmination of fire ants.
It mounds because either the population of the ants gets
to the point where it has to come upward.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Or a lot of moisture. Sometimes a lot of times
after not right now, but yes.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Right after a rain.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
In fact, the rain we had, what was it last Monday,
I walked out the next day and I had five
or six fire ant mounds in my yard because some
moisture pushed them up.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Because those ant.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Mounds are there, we're just not seeing it. So, like
Scott said, a broadcasting of any of the chemicals is
your best way to control.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Fire and know what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Like if you're putting out andro which is a great product,
you don't want to do it in the middle of
the day. Sunlight breaks it down faster, so you want
to put it in the evening or early early in
the morning. You want those ants to be able to
find it. They go out every day looking for food.
They go out to make groceris and they pick it
(18:04):
up and they bring it back to the mound. So
when you broadcast it over a large area, you're having
ants from these small mounds that have yet to be
detected by you. There they're picking that chemical up and
they're bringing it back to their mound and taking care
of that mound before you even know it was there.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And then if you use the come and.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Get it, which is a spinosa product, it can't go
out in the sunlight, but they need a chance to
pick it up before it gets wet. So you know,
you don't put it in your vegetable because that would
safe for use in a vegetable garden. Even you don't
put it out in your garden and then water your garden.
You water the garden, let it dry, then you put
it out so that the ants can pick it up,
dry and bring it down to the colony.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
In fact, in the I'm going to age myself here,
but in the seventies and eighties there was a pretty
substantial effort in Louisiana with andro to try and eradicate them.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
They would do large neighborhoods all they would coordinate the
entire neighborhood. Yes, so I did some testing with LSU
using bait products such as the andro or extinguish, and
if you do it twice a year at the proper times,
they were having luck with knocking out low ninety percent.
I think of the population throughout the warm season. So
(19:18):
they would put out just as it was warm enough
for the foraging ants to start to come out at
the end of winter when there wasn't a lot of
other material for them to eat, and they would do
it right at the very end of fall, when it's
getting cold, when the ants are going to go down
to the ground and stay most of the way. So
they would knock the population out before it got started
(19:41):
in the spring, and they would diminish the overwintering colony
from one year to the next by doing it in
the fall with great success.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And the one thing I never could understand in scott
you're much smarter than I am, which is that it's
hard to do. But in agricultural purposes they are recommending
one pound of amro per acre.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I mean, how can you spread that?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, you're right, And even the spinozad is a little
it's a food based product, so the ants go out
looking for it. It's not You don't have to concentrate
it right where the mounds are, and you can take
a little like the spinosaid thing it treats ten thousand
square feet.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
It's just a little tiny thing. I don't I just walk.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Around and I just scattered through the yard haphazardly because
I know the answer going to find it, pick it up.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
If good luck with the kathy kind of persistence is
going to be your best bet.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Well, the other thing y'all were talking about earlier, about
walking two different ways and killing the.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
White the no, that male crickets is a larger insect.
It looks a lot like a brown cricket. But you
don't want to go to all the effort of what's gotten.
Oh no, no, no, that was for humor.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But although I did hear it from that person, but
it was more humorous than not.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
Okay, But then the little white the.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Little white, the little white bugs, those are going to
be side webworms or army worms. Again, the bifinthern or
bug blaster that we were just talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
We're probably well with those.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And if you if you're trying to control both fire
ants and the side webworms.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Bug blaster is going to be your best.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Instead of buying two different products.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Okay, thank you so much, Thank you, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That was a great phone call. Thank you so much.
That does open up phone lines right now. Four nine six,
that's for nine nine w JBO. You know, we were
discussing moms and marigolds and the difference. And I tell people,
I mean, there's a football game tonight. LSU is playing
South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So you've got to tray of purple and gold pansies
in the back of your truck.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
No, okay, so yes, I mean if we're decorad if
the wife wants to decorate by the door, we're having
some friends over tonight, you know she's gonna probably go
to colleg She's gonna buy a few pumpkins.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I bet she's gonna get a croat.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Now, she's going to get a purple and a gold
mom because they're going to be blooming and that's what
you want for this.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
But if we're doing something in our yard.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
For for the farm, the marigolds are much better.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Bet.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm not even gonna comment on your pansy comment. We'll
get to that in a little bit though, because I
think we need to go. We need to just kind
of pause here for just a second longer, and then
and then we're going to go to Luke. Good morning, Luke,
Welcome to the news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's Lawn
and Garden Show.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
What can we do for you?
Speaker 10 (22:40):
I am on the hunt for Montezuma.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Cypress good luck.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, I hadn't seen one for a long time. That
used to be available through Monrovia Nurseries, which is a
California based thing.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The last three Montazuma cypress I got was from a
nurse in Houston on tree search they had some, and
that's been probably that's probably been ten years ago. Just
for those of you, give you a little background. As
Luke obviously knows. Mana Zuma cypress is an excellent cypress,
(23:15):
but it doesn't produce knees, which if you ever planted
a cypress tree in your yard like I have, you
understand why you don't want that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I have some, and for some reason, they're old. They're
twenty years old. Not the first knee.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I'll bring you some, but yeah, I just hobble along.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Luke.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Normally don't do this or don't suggest this, but in
your situation, I would get online see if you can
find a male source for them, because I know if
Tom was able to find him, he would bring them
in because it is a it is a great cypress.
I love the shape of him, the look of them
in the yard. But the knees can be very problematic.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'm gonna give you one other suggestion.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't know if Louisiana, if nursery out, he's a nurse.
Hi kai, I keep going back to the old name.
They still might order material in from California. They might
have a source. You might try them as an all.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
Are they difficult to propagate?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
They would be, they would have I would think they
would have to come from seeds.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I don't you can't you know, I don't think we're
asking any or anything like that. But yeah, I again.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No, because if the problem with that is your root
system is going to overtake and probably going to develop
the knees. So good luck, all right, thank you, all right,
we do need to take a quick break.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
We do have a few other oh wait a minute,
never mind. Good morning, Kathleen. Welcome to news radio.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Eleven to fifty wwo's Lawn and Garden Show.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
What can we do for you today?
Speaker 11 (24:51):
I'm looking for a recommendation for a shrub that will
be planted against the side of my house on the
west side, so it gets only ports time, and I
want it to be not toller than four feet.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
She she could share us asanqua yep or some of
the distilliums. Could could do that also different form. Uh,
what kind of look do you want?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Do you want? Do you want straight edge? Do you
want mounded? You want loose? What do you want?
Speaker 11 (25:21):
Probably either loose or mounded.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I love she shees are hard to be give you
color when there's not much else. They're evergreen, beautiful trub even.
I have Carissa Holly at my house, which grows into
because it's a great plant. It doesn't have any problems
with it. I don't have to prune it. It grows
into a self mounting form all by itself. I've got
some that were there pre flood and I've never prune them.
(25:46):
There may be waist high, but you can keep them.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Lower with minimum work. It's just there's a lot of options.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I'm I'm a big fan of the she She's impact.
That's my foundation planting in front of our house I've
prune them about once a year.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Uh, they don't you really have to work hard to
prune it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, oh no, it's very easy pruning. What I love
about is Scott pointed out, is it blooms in the fall.
In fact, there were probably about two maybe three weeks
away from it starting at bloom.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
It just can last all the way into January.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Beautiful pink blooms in front of the house. One. Shirley
doesn't have a lot of other plans.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Some white ones.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Now there's a white she that that you could use
the same beautiful form.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, come by visit any of the Klegg's nurseries. We
just got an excellent shipment. One of the best growers
in Louisiana's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
He is the best grower of Sanquist.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Usually only releases his plants this time of year. And
I know, I think all four stores have gotten their
shipments on those. You so you got some premium she
she's available to you. There are other options, the distillium,
the Carissa Holly.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Uh, there's a lot of different things. Yeah, I don't
like it, You don't, no, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, there's a lot of options. But boy,
just whenever you go buy clegs, go ask for the
she she the sank was and.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Say, I like, I love she shies, but I also
like the vintage jage is stilly mo though.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
It can grow a little taller.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
What I do, Yeah, I just selected prune, just five
or six pieces and I'm finished, and it's it's a
nice flowing for I love it.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yep, yeah, all right, lots of options.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
We don't promote off the air questions. But in this situation,
it was fine. Winter Riser on lawns right now. If
you've been watering your lawn, I have I. In fact,
I strongly urge you to put out Winter Riser. The
grass is still growing. The blue bag that he mentioned
with the dimension is an unbelievable product.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
In fact, that's the Winter Riser with weedpnter.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
In fact, I've noticed, and you know, I'm not in
the story every day anymore, but I've noticed that people
realize what a great product that is. And you know
we're selling I'm going to say four to one that bag.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's got the dimension in it, which we have talked
about so much over the last few years. And if
that goes into your flower bed unlike a weed and
feed that you would use which actually has a weed killer. Yeah,
this is a this is a prevent and this one
can go in the flower bed and not and actually
give you benefits not only not hurt anything, but give
you benefits for that as well.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But anyway, yes, definitely get out there, put out your
winter rise or that that blue bag winter riser with
weed preventter.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
If you're going, if you have stickers and you need
to put a pre emergent out, the pre emergent in
the winter riser with weed preventter, that herbicide. That pre
emergent herbicide does not work well on stickers, but there
is a pre emergent herbicide that you could put out. Now,
put it in a spreader and put it out. And
(28:49):
that is the Gallery is the name of the chemical itself.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You've got the kitchen on a boat close close.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, No, this is down the hall where they have
the picture the gallery. Yeah. Okay, so but you remember
it's a furlough broadleaf we red. Yeah, but it actually
has the word gallery on the front of it, and
that that is effective on spurweed or burwed or stickers
all the same thing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'm sure there's more names than.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That, but the mentioned product, the blue bag excellent for
a lot of your annual weeds.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
A clover, poanna all that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So yes, I'm not sure the name of that collar,
but definitely go ahead and put out your winter riser
with weed preventer the blue bag.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
It's getting to be time for fall vegetables. You know.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The Chinese cabbage is excellent. There's you know, I think
there's eight or ten different types of cabbage. People wonder
why people want different sizes, different.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Summers, big, some are small, Yeah, some have a little
more sweetness to it, some have different colors.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You could understand why anybody wants a twelve pound cabbage.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know what, if you're growing the twelve pound cabbage,
you can harvest them early or.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Maybe they're they take cabbage chunkin instead of chunkin.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah. But broccoli excellent.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Flower.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
My wife just started some kale and some I can't
remember the other.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
She started a couple of things from seed that we're
going to transfer.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
She does she just use the kale like in salads
or cook it? Or does she do like the kale
potato chips in the oven.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
She has tried the kale potato chips. They tasted really burnt.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay, the firemen seem to like them.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh, you're going to be mowing that yard.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
She's working out and not gonna be listening. She might
be though, No, she has tried the kale chips and
actually they were excellent. You do need to watch watch
them pretty close because it is they are relatively thin
and can they.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Can jump that bridge from just right to burnt in
a hurry real quick.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
But no, if you haven't planted because the temperatures, I
mean we're in October and it was ninety yesterday, you know,
don't feel pressure to get your fall vegetables out because
especially some of them, you're lettuces in particular, can do
what we call bolting, which once and what that is
is it's an elongation of the stem of the plant
(31:25):
which goes to flower. And once it starts at elongation
or bolting process, it's unedible.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I mean, it get extremely bitter.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And so don't be don't rush to get your fall
guard now.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And you know, if you want lots of lettuce, don't
go out and plant forty of them all at once,
or you can and you can leave. You can harvest
just the outer edges. But if you like to cut
the whole head and bring it in and said, plant
some weight, plant some weight, plant some weight. In that way,
they'll be ripening at different stages.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
So what do you talk about like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Later, twenty twenty at least none of.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Let's go to Neil. Good morning, Neil, welcome. I'm having
trouble with this today. Good morning, Neil, Welcome to news
radio eleven to fifty wjbo's line of garden Show.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
What can we do for you today?
Speaker 10 (32:18):
Well, y'all will be having trouble, but you sure as
he sound like you having a good time.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
We always do, yes, we do.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Question on sledgehammer. I had something I think called nut
grass and the flower head and came down and mister
Johnny told me. He said, well, do you have any
cover in there? And my tomatoes were not doing very well.
I said no, He said, you flumped gardener. One oh one.
(32:54):
My question is I used the sledgehammer. I got rid
of the first round. It took a while, but the
stuff died. I dug it up carefully and throw it away.
I've now got a second crop coming back, and I
go ahead and use some sledge hammer, and then for
the winter, pinstall and mulch covered up.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Well, I heard anything, will I I don't dovetible.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I don't think such hammer is nothing.
Speaker 10 (33:23):
There's nothing.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
That's how you said something about tomatoes.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Of the both of us did.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, what you're doing is you're getting secondary breaks, which
such hammer is the most effective in getting out into
your dormant nuts. But every mama nutgrass nut produces three offspring.
And what normally happens is when you spray a lot
of the chemicals recommended for nutgrass is it kills mama,
(33:53):
which causes those dormant nuts to wake up and grow.
So your spraying for that second and dairy growth is
very important. To get it basically as soon as you
see it, so that they don't get an opportunity to
produce those three armity.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
By the time that little one breaks ground, when it
gets to the three or four leaf stage, it's already
developing underground laterals.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Right, So you want to get on it early.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like Butch says, when you start to see it, jump
on it.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Oh, you'll win, you'll win.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
But the only issue is it's not as bad as
Virginia button we which can germinate whenever the heck it
wants to. Most of they don't all come out at
exactly the same time, So it may be that you,
you know, you get a spraying, a secondary spray, and
and you'll knock out a vast majority of them, but
you still may get one or two more coming up,
(34:46):
and those are the ones you either want to come
back and spray or.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
The one thing that I just just occur to me.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
If you're using the pre measured uh dissolvable tablet for that.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
That must be new such chamber.
Speaker 10 (35:03):
Oh I think that I'm using.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Okay, So only mix up what you need because it
deteriorates in the spray canister. So if you mix up
a gallon and only use a half gallon and wait
three weeks to use the other half gallon, you're not
doing yourself any service, right, So always, and.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Speaking of your little Virginia button weed little is that
the one with the little tiny flower?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, it's a little four pedal flower. Load to the ground,
nice and lush.
Speaker 10 (35:38):
Is my MSM MSM turkey. The weed cocktail or whatever
you call it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
It still might be a little warm for the weed
cocktail all right now?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
And actually if you'll wait and let some.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Of course, the wheat cocktail has actress in, which has
a pre emergent. But if you go ahead and actually
kind of let some of that stuff sprout and then
spray it, you'll have better.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
You'll still have some.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Activity pre emergent with your atresine, but the combination of
the atressine and the wa free zone as a post
emergent will really knock it out.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Very effectives everything.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
Thank you gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Right, we are very fortunate to have John back on
the line. Good morning, John again, welcome back.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
All right, the Chinese cabbages, uh, the ones in the
earth locks. The white can't over water them, so they're
doing okay, the ones and containers and I'm using the
legs potting soil I leave for the containers. Can I
cut that with some parallite or something or other because
they're holding too much water?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah, or just crush she's over water? Yeah, yeah, you
cause you can't stop her.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Huh.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
So yeah, we we backed her off, but I got
to resurrect some maybe, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The paralyit would help with that. Anything mixing some other courser.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
With that, Yeah, if you have in fact, if you
find maybe can even find some finely ground bark would
be a definite product.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
But other two perlite is what is your water repellent,
So yeah, that would be if you got some.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Leaf mold that maybe isn't quite as decomposed, you know,
you can still recognize it as leaves. Anything like that,
that's course is going to help with that drainage or.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
No, of course, of course not not fine grain, but
course thick.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
The other thing that I have found, especially if it's
clay pots, a lot of times that only has a
hole right on the bottom, so you can if yeah,
it can get blocked a lot of times, or you
if you in fact, they sell pot feet that you
can stick on them. But if you can get something
even if you like put a little pebble or something
(38:03):
under one side so it's not completely flat, sometimes that
can help.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
To use coke bottle caps excellent, except do they still
have cokebon I don't. I don't think well off you
could yeah yeah beard beard screw up bear, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
No, something to hold that up, and yeah, that will help.
And then if you think that it's blocked at the bottom,
just take a pencil or something to run up through
the bottom hole.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Also, yeah, I ran a nail through the whole.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Okay, well we've we figured you knew that, John.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
We were trying to spread that to other people that
aren't near as smart as you are.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
No, I'd listened to you guys for twenty years or
however long you've been on you know, I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Was talking before the show, John, and you are an
awesome caller, and you've been a great friend at the
stores for many, many, many years. Not that many because
we're not that old. But I was telling Scott beforehand.
I said, I actually found a transcript of our very
first show that we did together. I could didn't bring
it in because the tablets were too heavy.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Anyway. Oh, thanks for the calm. Thanks for being a great.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Friend, John, John, have a great.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
We really have had a great run of phone calls.
A couple of things we want to get to. We
discussed vegetable garden. You can be getting started, but with
the temperatures maybe not. One thing you brought up earlier
is pansies.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Real quick. We don't have very long but do not
plant pansies. Now.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
You can put some in some pots maybe, but I
wouldn't put them in the ground.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
There's a soil organism that is very active at our
current soil temperatures, that will kill pansies.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Early, plant them twice.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I love that, and it's one of the things people
would get so mad when they came into story and
we have some all the sacrificial Yes, but is that dragons? Okay,
it's okay, I'm still if you're on snap.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Dragons not dragons.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Say just if you keep too wet, you know, Oh
it's so hot, so I keep watering it.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, don't you know too much water.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
If you if you have planted pansies, they're starting to
will look at the stem right at soil level. You'll
see they've turned black. That's where the organism has attacked them.
So there's nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
You make sure you're not planting them too deep. Make
sure you know keeping them too wet is a problem.
Too wet is a problem for lots of stuff. We
actually this morning, before I came here, I stopped someplace
and the lady knew that I worked at Legs and
she was talking about how herpathos ivy she was having problems.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
She goes, so, well, most people kill them with kindness.
They water them too much. Oh, I water mine every.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Day problems with water and have you mentioned maybe what's
that store where you can get the plastic plants?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
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Speaker 4 (40:52):
You can go back. Actually you could just leap this show.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I thought we were very informative.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Today is fun. It was great.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
It was great to be with you, and I hope
everybody in back route.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
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Speaker 5 (41:07):
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Speaker 2 (41:09):
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Speaker 5 (41:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, and welcome to news radio eleven to fifty
wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is Butch Drews,
and with me is I'm not sir. Could you introduce
yourself as soon.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
As I get my life to come on said you
said everything was fixed.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I told you that flight. It's kind of like in
the contract. Good morning, mister Rica.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Good morning, mister Drews. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Long time, no suit has been a long time. I'm
trying to figure out. We've had some issues with some
of the people that do the show don't like working
out of this chair with the board, so we've kind
of had to split up over Yeah, so it's nice
to be back together again.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And we were having a conversation during our hours hours
of planning trying to figure out exactly when we started
to get I think I think it was around ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Five yeah, we should be a lot better at it.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We should be.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We need the Yeah, there were actual employees and threw
a salary, we'd be gone.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
We'd get the same salary.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We'd be getting the same salary we get now, we
would even we wouldn't even be getting salary.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
So anyway, beautiful weather, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, but I got to tell you. I was telling
Jeremy before you showed up. You know, it was about
four thirty. I know we were scheduled to meet at five. Yeah, yeah,
I got to leave immediately after the show because on
my way here, and this is going to really upset
my wife, I saw a driveway sale.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I will go buy that driveway and.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I need a new mine's full. You know, I'm not
going to a garage.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You should have been here last week Kenilworth. I had
to drop something off in Kenilworth on.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
My way here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You could have gotten a great deal because there was
so many garage sales there.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You could have negotiated and got whatever you wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I could have whittled the price town that garage. And yeah,
you know what I like to buy garage sales old
garden tools.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I don't know why I used to do that all
the time.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Of course, I hadn't been to a garage sale in
a very long time because most of the time they were.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Set up on days where ID at the store.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We've we've got a listener that I won't call him
out by name.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
But Fred likes to or whatever his name is, likes
to go to garage sales and buy potting soil. Yeah, no,
not me.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You can you can get it.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
There's always a cheap potting soil you can buy somewhere
without having to worry about parking and turning.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It out to your car.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I think I gave Fred his greatest gift ever given
to him.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Oh was that?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And then I unfortunately then you yanked it away. He
lost it in the flood. But I had another one,
so I gave it to him.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And what was that?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
A bag with a thousand hose washers in it.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I keep a garbage can behind the garage full of
I'll bring home like a broken bag of sol and
I put it in there. I always need soil, so
you know, I hate to like, Oh I need some soil.
Let me go to the stores, like, oh, I need
to do something. I walked to the back of the garage,
and I've already got it, so I just try to
keep it topped off when I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So, if you had this trash can in New Orleans,
you would have to add water to it all the
time because it dirt.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
In New Orleans mud, it's mud, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I don't know why they call it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Bill Roundree and I were having a discussion about this
earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, Scott, hold on, just to say, we're gonna have
some really intelligent conversation here.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I know, I actually have a question about the garbage
can full of soil. Is different types of potting soils sometimes?
Does that matter or impact its quality or use?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I don't see different kinds.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I don't put junk soil in it. Okay, Okay, Well,
like different brands, I guess I could say if it
is a distinct difference. Let's say there's a broken bag
of back toe. Well, back toe holds a lot of water,
and I don't like my soils to hold a lot
of water because plants can say too wet. I would
(04:28):
rather water it extra than watch it die from staying
too wet.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
You can always add water, you can't take it away.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So if I dump some of that in, I will
actually blend it through with the stuff below it, so
I have a more homogeneous mix.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
How many slaves was that one? To make sure we
didn't bust the filter or something?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
If you want to twenty five years to think of
that word.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
What was the word again?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
If you have really large words that you would like
to say to us, give us a call.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I think you've lost everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, four two, six ib We shouldn't have come in
a fourth. Maybe it was a six scups of coffee.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Dyet Mountain like a spider monkey.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Here. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's cool, the flags are blowing, there's a breeze.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Go out in your yard and look around this morning.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It is good. Nor need a spare driveway.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
There's one on their sale, and which you probably don't
have to do. You probably don't have to worry about
going to mow the grass because they haven't been rated.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So yehow however, oh, fortunately, I don't think anybody is listening,
so this won't be a big secret. But as I
was mowing, well, trying to figure out where I had
mowed my grass, I noticed something.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Little butterflies?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Uh? Oh, kind of kind of moths?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Name maybe moss is a better word for you.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Is there the stuff that grows in trees Spanish moss?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Sure, but edition with the W JB O dad joke.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Shoot, the little tiny guy's just kind of flitting around everywhere.
Oh were you trying to kill him with the lawnmower?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I did?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You did? Not all of them, though?
Speaker 7 (06:40):
Did?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
No? I kept trying to run them down. I need
to plant some new bushes.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Is that why your yard? The mowing tracks are just
everywhere right through the she So you really yeah, you
really have?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
You really saw? That's not a good thing.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
No, it's not.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
No.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
What are they moths? Why aren't they good things?
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Because they they drop little eggs here and there.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
And did they create caterpillars? They do?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And fillers are usually hungry.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah. Do they eat the grass?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They do?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Are they called sod webworms?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
They could be? Or maybe even army worms?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
M Maybe do they have little tanks?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
They drive on the ground, You're right, not fly. So
one would be the air force and one would be.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The In all seriousness, I was shocked. It's been I
haven't seen them until this last time I mowed. I
don't know if it's because they were so it's been
so dry. Whatever it is, it is the first evidence
of sod. Web Worms are army worms that I've seen,
which can be extremely detrimental to lawns.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Quite often when you're mowing you might see that, especially
if you have a ride in a little more. They'll
kind of be disturbed and flit up in front of you.
They usually stay rather low to the ground and uh yeah,
they just kind of fly around and drop eggs here
and there.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
They can kill your life.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
That is one of the things you want to see.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Some of the things I don't really push as much
treatment on because, like I said, you know, we talk
all the time on the show about Virginia button weed.
I think my lawn is beautiful. It's green with little
white flowers.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, it's like the best flower bed you got.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Huh exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But side web worms or army worms, we really need
to treat for it because, like Scott said, it is
very detrimental to the law.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And if you don't like to use harsh chemicals, you
could spray with spinosa for all that matters. I mean,
it's very very calm to the environment. And you know
the caterpillars when they eat the grass blades, if it
has spinosad on it, that will that will mess up
their digestive system and they'll die. And we won't get
(08:51):
into details about that.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, it's agonizing to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So but and when people put out treatments for soid
web worms, and it's some of the more conventional things.
If you still see some caterpillar, let's some butterflies or
some moths, excuse me, like two days after you've put
out the chemical, that doesn't mean you need to go
(09:16):
put out the chemical.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Again because the moth isn't the problem.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Right, it's the caterpillar and baby.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, the baby, because babies just eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
So if you have.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Something down to control, then he's.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Not teenage anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So if you can stop the stage, the life stage
at the caterpillar, then there won't be more adults to
lay more eggs.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
In the future.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So the amount of moths could diminish. But remember it
they fly, so they could come in from your neighbors
or wherever. So the fact that you still see some
moths I've had people focus on the maths and treat
with some more substantial chemicals than spinosa, said like every week,
because they keep saying moths.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's it's great for clegs.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, it's great for the register, but but we don't
want you, we don't want you to waste your money either.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's definitely not that. But again, the moss are just
laying the eggs. They're really not and their life cycle
is very short.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
So the moss don't eat anything.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
No, they don't.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So you know, even if you see moss a few five, three,
four to five days later, the life cycle is very short.
So typically one treatment spinosa, being that it's an organic,
has a tendency to wear out.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That might that might not last as long, so you
might come in maybe ten days.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, seven to ten days, seven to ten days with
the spinosa. But if you use one of the Granuar
products to fensing some of those uh trade name, uh
bug Blaster, Telstar, you don't have to thirty days, forty
five days. And then benefit about using those is you're
also killing fiance, you're killing fleas, you're killing ticks, mole.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Crickets of those. So it had those have a broader label.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But again I was I was unpleasantly surprised to see
the moss when I was mowing.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
This last time.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I can remember you saying mole crickets reminds me.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
One time I was at an educational thing put on
by L Shoe and it was I don't remember who
it was, but he was one of the L Shoe
agents and was telling people how you could get rid
of molt crickets. And he asked if you had a
one of the old power uh measures, not like the
string trimmers, and he said, you'd go and you'd do
(11:34):
two perpendicular lines through the yard, making a little groove
into the dirt, and then where that intersection between those
two lines, you dig a hole that's big enough to
put a five gallon bucket in, and you put it
all the way down to where the top of the
bucket is a bother that little ridge, because the molt
crickets evidently would come out and follow the path and
then they fall in the bucket. And he said, they're
(11:55):
a really good fish bake. So I don't know many
people that want to dig.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
A hole in the yard for five but it was.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was done for humorous reasons, I'm sure, but you know,
if you want some fish bait.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You used to place co ed softball out on Choctaw
Brett Park out there, and I was playing shortstop and
ground ball hit to me and all of a sudden,
cricket jumps up in my face.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Did you get the ball?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
No, I'm fighting.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Six. Please stop the mats.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We gave out really good information there yet, you know,
and if anybody does actually need to.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Supposed to keep your eyes closed when you go for
ground ball, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
If anybody needs a driveway, it's on Jefferson Highway. Yeah,
we really probably ought to like get some form of well,
I don't even know what professionalism mean, so that would
be hard to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
But give us call four six's four nine nine.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
If you've not been outside yet, don't let this morning
pass you by. Don't let it get away from It's gorgeous.
Take a cup of coffee or butsher your favorite beverage.
Go outside, even if you don't want to go look
at the yard, go get a comfortable chair, just sit outside.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It is absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I was going to the music saved us, but I
was going to ask you because I know the answer.
But you are a huge proponent of moms in the fall,
aren't you. I never could understand why you don't why
you don't suggest marigolds.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I like the way you flip flop that.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That was really well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I know you we've both been in it for
between the two of us.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Don't go there.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, eighty five years.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
So Texas years ago had tried to promote the use
of marigolds in the fall and when people would normally
plant moms. And don't get me wrong, moms are gorgeous
and the variety of colors is I mean, if you
can't get purple mar no, no, and and there's different
(14:04):
styles of moms flowers, but you don't see that many
different ones around the nurseries unfortunately, but you know, the
little button ones and then the regular decorative is what
you normally find. But Texas was trying to promote marygoals
and they called them merry moms, and that.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Hadn't cleaning service.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I think, so, yes, that's older momp from Europe moms,
uh and and they're always so happy. So, but planting moms,
most people don't realize when you buy a mum that
has buds on it. That mum chrysanthemum will not get
any larger in size because once the buds on the
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terminal tip, that that branch does not extend any longer.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So what you buy is what you're that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So now if you leave them in the ground, they
die down a winter time, come back, they can get
some of them can get huge the next year. But
a mom has a real a large burst of color,
and they're's a plant.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's a party plant, that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And then those kind of finish a lot in the
in a short amount of time. Those those flowers are gone,
and then the second set of buds, which will be
smaller in number and probably smaller in size, they start
to swell and give you a second burst of color,
and pretty much that's that's it.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
And that's only going to happen if you pinch the
old ones off.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So, but but a marigold, you put a marigold in,
it's probably already blooming when you get it.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's continually growing.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's making the new buds over and over and over,
and so it's growing and blooming continuously, not in those cycles,
and it'll last till the freeze takes it out Boom
and their fall color colors. How can you beat that
mix that with crotons or cartons? Yes on nostalagy.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Let's find out what Kathy's got going on.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Good morning, Kathy, Welcome to news Radio eleven to fifty
wjbo's line of garden show.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
What can we do for you today?
Speaker 9 (16:02):
I just heard you talking about what to put in
New York to get rid of the fire ants and
the white slies.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
We were suggesting if you the fire ants, you're gonna
want to use a bifenthne based chemical. If you prefer granules,
bug Blaster or Telstar would be our recommendations, and do
that as a broadcast over the entire area. If you're
looking for a liquid, it's bug Blaster and the liquid Polster.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
It comes in.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What I'd love to meet the guy that invented that
little ready to spray nozzle that comes on there.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That just made me realize how lazy I was.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And spray it away.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
If fire ants in particular or the problem. My wife
has had excellent success with amro. It's an old product,
been around forever.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Uh, it's a bait.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's a bait you can sprinkle it around the mound
more so than directly onto the mound.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
But it works, can't.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But the best thing to do is treat a broad
area because there's tons of little colonies that you don't
even realize they're there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, a fire ant mound is a culmination of fire ants.
It mounds because either the population of the ants gets
to the point where it has to come upward.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Or a lot of moisture. Sometimes a lot of times
after not right now, but yes.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Right after a rain.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
In fact, the rain we had, what was it last Monday,
I walked out the next day and I had five
or six fire ant mounds in my yard because some
moisture pushed them up.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Because those ant.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Mounds are there, we're just not seeing it. So, like
Scott said, a broadcasting of any of the chemicals is
your best way to control.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Fire and know what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Like if you're putting out andro which is a great product,
you don't want to do it in the middle of
the day. Sunlight breaks it down faster, so you want
to put it in the evening or early early in
the morning. You want those ants to be able to
find it. They go out every day looking for food.
They go out to make groceris and they pick it
(18:04):
up and they bring it back to the mound. So
when you broadcast it over a large area, you're having
ants from these small mounds that have yet to be
detected by you. There they're picking that chemical up and
they're bringing it back to their mound and taking care
of that mound before you even know it was there.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And then if you use the come and.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Get it, which is a spinosa product, it can't go
out in the sunlight, but they need a chance to
pick it up before it gets wet. So you know,
you don't put it in your vegetable because that would
safe for use in a vegetable garden. Even you don't
put it out in your garden and then water your garden.
You water the garden, let it dry, then you put
it out so that the ants can pick it up,
dry and bring it down to the colony.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
In fact, in the I'm going to age myself here,
but in the seventies and eighties there was a pretty
substantial effort in Louisiana with andro to try and eradicate them.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
They would do large neighborhoods all they would coordinate the
entire neighborhood. Yes, so I did some testing with LSU
using bait products such as the andro or extinguish, and
if you do it twice a year at the proper times,
they were having luck with knocking out low ninety percent.
I think of the population throughout the warm season. So
(19:18):
they would put out just as it was warm enough
for the foraging ants to start to come out at
the end of winter when there wasn't a lot of
other material for them to eat, and they would do
it right at the very end of fall, when it's
getting cold, when the ants are going to go down
to the ground and stay most of the way. So
they would knock the population out before it got started
(19:41):
in the spring, and they would diminish the overwintering colony
from one year to the next by doing it in
the fall with great success.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And the one thing I never could understand in scott
you're much smarter than I am, which is that it's
hard to do. But in agricultural purposes they are recommending
one pound of amro per acre.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I mean, how can you spread that?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, you're right, And even the spinozad is a little
it's a food based product, so the ants go out
looking for it. It's not You don't have to concentrate
it right where the mounds are, and you can take
a little like the spinosaid thing it treats ten thousand
square feet.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
It's just a little tiny thing. I don't I just walk.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Around and I just scattered through the yard haphazardly because
I know the answer going to find it, pick it up.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
If good luck with the kathy kind of persistence is
going to be your best bet.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Well, the other thing y'all were talking about earlier, about
walking two different ways and killing the.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
White the no, that male crickets is a larger insect.
It looks a lot like a brown cricket. But you
don't want to go to all the effort of what's gotten.
Oh no, no, no, that was for humor.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But although I did hear it from that person, but
it was more humorous than not.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
Okay, But then the little white the.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Little white, the little white bugs, those are going to
be side webworms or army worms. Again, the bifinthern or
bug blaster that we were just talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
We're probably well with those.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And if you if you're trying to control both fire
ants and the side webworms.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Bug blaster is going to be your best.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Instead of buying two different products.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Okay, thank you so much, Thank you, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That was a great phone call. Thank you so much.
That does open up phone lines right now. Four nine six,
that's for nine nine w JBO. You know, we were
discussing moms and marigolds and the difference. And I tell people,
I mean, there's a football game tonight. LSU is playing
South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So you've got to tray of purple and gold pansies
in the back of your truck.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
No, okay, so yes, I mean if we're decorad if
the wife wants to decorate by the door, we're having
some friends over tonight, you know she's gonna probably go
to colleg She's gonna buy a few pumpkins.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I bet she's gonna get a croat.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Now, she's going to get a purple and a gold
mom because they're going to be blooming and that's what
you want for this.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
But if we're doing something in our yard.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
For for the farm, the marigolds are much better.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Bet.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm not even gonna comment on your pansy comment. We'll
get to that in a little bit though, because I
think we need to go. We need to just kind
of pause here for just a second longer, and then
and then we're going to go to Luke. Good morning, Luke,
Welcome to the news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's Lawn
and Garden Show.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
What can we do for you?
Speaker 10 (22:40):
I am on the hunt for Montezuma.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Cypress good luck.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, I hadn't seen one for a long time. That
used to be available through Monrovia Nurseries, which is a
California based thing.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The last three Montazuma cypress I got was from a
nurse in Houston on tree search they had some, and
that's been probably that's probably been ten years ago. Just
for those of you, give you a little background. As
Luke obviously knows. Mana Zuma cypress is an excellent cypress,
(23:15):
but it doesn't produce knees, which if you ever planted
a cypress tree in your yard like I have, you
understand why you don't want that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I have some, and for some reason, they're old. They're
twenty years old. Not the first knee.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I'll bring you some, but yeah, I just hobble along.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Luke.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Normally don't do this or don't suggest this, but in
your situation, I would get online see if you can
find a male source for them, because I know if
Tom was able to find him, he would bring them
in because it is a it is a great cypress.
I love the shape of him, the look of them
in the yard. But the knees can be very problematic.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'm gonna give you one other suggestion.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't know if Louisiana, if nursery out, he's a nurse.
Hi kai, I keep going back to the old name.
They still might order material in from California. They might
have a source. You might try them as an all.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
Are they difficult to propagate?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
They would be, they would have I would think they
would have to come from seeds.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I don't you can't you know, I don't think we're
asking any or anything like that. But yeah, I again.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No, because if the problem with that is your root
system is going to overtake and probably going to develop
the knees. So good luck, all right, thank you, all right,
we do need to take a quick break.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
We do have a few other oh wait a minute,
never mind. Good morning, Kathleen. Welcome to news radio.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Eleven to fifty wwo's Lawn and Garden Show.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
What can we do for you today?
Speaker 11 (24:51):
I'm looking for a recommendation for a shrub that will
be planted against the side of my house on the
west side, so it gets only ports time, and I
want it to be not toller than four feet.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
She she could share us asanqua yep or some of
the distilliums. Could could do that also different form. Uh,
what kind of look do you want?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Do you want? Do you want straight edge? Do you
want mounded? You want loose? What do you want?
Speaker 11 (25:21):
Probably either loose or mounded.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I love she shees are hard to be give you
color when there's not much else. They're evergreen, beautiful trub even.
I have Carissa Holly at my house, which grows into
because it's a great plant. It doesn't have any problems
with it. I don't have to prune it. It grows
into a self mounting form all by itself. I've got
some that were there pre flood and I've never prune them.
(25:46):
There may be waist high, but you can keep them.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Lower with minimum work. It's just there's a lot of options.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I'm I'm a big fan of the she She's impact.
That's my foundation planting in front of our house I've
prune them about once a year.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Uh, they don't you really have to work hard to
prune it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, oh no, it's very easy pruning. What I love
about is Scott pointed out, is it blooms in the fall.
In fact, there were probably about two maybe three weeks
away from it starting at bloom.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
It just can last all the way into January.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Beautiful pink blooms in front of the house. One. Shirley
doesn't have a lot of other plans.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Some white ones.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Now there's a white she that that you could use
the same beautiful form.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, come by visit any of the Klegg's nurseries. We
just got an excellent shipment. One of the best growers
in Louisiana's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
He is the best grower of Sanquist.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Usually only releases his plants this time of year. And
I know, I think all four stores have gotten their
shipments on those. You so you got some premium she
she's available to you. There are other options, the distillium,
the Carissa Holly.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Uh, there's a lot of different things. Yeah, I don't
like it, You don't, no, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, there's a lot of options. But boy,
just whenever you go buy clegs, go ask for the
she she the sank was and.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Say, I like, I love she shies, but I also
like the vintage jage is stilly mo though.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
It can grow a little taller.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
What I do, Yeah, I just selected prune, just five
or six pieces and I'm finished, and it's it's a
nice flowing for I love it.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yep, yeah, all right, lots of options.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
We don't promote off the air questions. But in this situation,
it was fine. Winter Riser on lawns right now. If
you've been watering your lawn, I have I. In fact,
I strongly urge you to put out Winter Riser. The
grass is still growing. The blue bag that he mentioned
with the dimension is an unbelievable product.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
In fact, that's the Winter Riser with weedpnter.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
In fact, I've noticed, and you know, I'm not in
the story every day anymore, but I've noticed that people
realize what a great product that is. And you know
we're selling I'm going to say four to one that bag.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's got the dimension in it, which we have talked
about so much over the last few years. And if
that goes into your flower bed unlike a weed and
feed that you would use which actually has a weed killer. Yeah,
this is a this is a prevent and this one
can go in the flower bed and not and actually
give you benefits not only not hurt anything, but give
you benefits for that as well.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But anyway, yes, definitely get out there, put out your
winter rise or that that blue bag winter riser with
weed preventter.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
If you're going, if you have stickers and you need
to put a pre emergent out, the pre emergent in
the winter riser with weed preventter, that herbicide. That pre
emergent herbicide does not work well on stickers, but there
is a pre emergent herbicide that you could put out. Now,
put it in a spreader and put it out. And
(28:49):
that is the Gallery is the name of the chemical itself.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You've got the kitchen on a boat close close.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, No, this is down the hall where they have
the picture the gallery. Yeah. Okay, so but you remember
it's a furlough broadleaf we red. Yeah, but it actually
has the word gallery on the front of it, and
that that is effective on spurweed or burwed or stickers
all the same thing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'm sure there's more names than.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That, but the mentioned product, the blue bag excellent for
a lot of your annual weeds.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
A clover, poanna all that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So yes, I'm not sure the name of that collar,
but definitely go ahead and put out your winter riser
with weed preventer the blue bag.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
It's getting to be time for fall vegetables. You know.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The Chinese cabbage is excellent. There's you know, I think
there's eight or ten different types of cabbage. People wonder
why people want different sizes, different.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Summers, big, some are small, Yeah, some have a little
more sweetness to it, some have different colors.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You could understand why anybody wants a twelve pound cabbage.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know what, if you're growing the twelve pound cabbage,
you can harvest them early or.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Maybe they're they take cabbage chunkin instead of chunkin.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah. But broccoli excellent.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Flower.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
My wife just started some kale and some I can't
remember the other.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
She started a couple of things from seed that we're
going to transfer.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
She does she just use the kale like in salads
or cook it? Or does she do like the kale
potato chips in the oven.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
She has tried the kale potato chips. They tasted really burnt.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay, the firemen seem to like them.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh, you're going to be mowing that yard.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
She's working out and not gonna be listening. She might
be though, No, she has tried the kale chips and
actually they were excellent. You do need to watch watch
them pretty close because it is they are relatively thin
and can they.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Can jump that bridge from just right to burnt in
a hurry real quick.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
But no, if you haven't planted because the temperatures, I
mean we're in October and it was ninety yesterday, you know,
don't feel pressure to get your fall vegetables out because
especially some of them, you're lettuces in particular, can do
what we call bolting, which once and what that is
is it's an elongation of the stem of the plant
(31:25):
which goes to flower. And once it starts at elongation
or bolting process, it's unedible.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I mean, it get extremely bitter.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And so don't be don't rush to get your fall
guard now.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And you know, if you want lots of lettuce, don't
go out and plant forty of them all at once,
or you can and you can leave. You can harvest
just the outer edges. But if you like to cut
the whole head and bring it in and said, plant
some weight, plant some weight, plant some weight. In that way,
they'll be ripening at different stages.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
So what do you talk about like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Later, twenty twenty at least none of.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Let's go to Neil. Good morning, Neil, welcome. I'm having
trouble with this today. Good morning, Neil, Welcome to news
radio eleven to fifty wjbo's line of garden Show.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
What can we do for you today?
Speaker 10 (32:18):
Well, y'all will be having trouble, but you sure as
he sound like you having a good time.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
We always do, yes, we do.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Question on sledgehammer. I had something I think called nut
grass and the flower head and came down and mister
Johnny told me. He said, well, do you have any
cover in there? And my tomatoes were not doing very well.
I said no, He said, you flumped gardener. One oh one.
(32:54):
My question is I used the sledgehammer. I got rid
of the first round. It took a while, but the
stuff died. I dug it up carefully and throw it away.
I've now got a second crop coming back, and I
go ahead and use some sledge hammer, and then for
the winter, pinstall and mulch covered up.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Well, I heard anything, will I I don't dovetible.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I don't think such hammer is nothing.
Speaker 10 (33:23):
There's nothing.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
That's how you said something about tomatoes.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Of the both of us did.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, what you're doing is you're getting secondary breaks, which
such hammer is the most effective in getting out into
your dormant nuts. But every mama nutgrass nut produces three offspring.
And what normally happens is when you spray a lot
of the chemicals recommended for nutgrass is it kills mama,
(33:53):
which causes those dormant nuts to wake up and grow.
So your spraying for that second and dairy growth is
very important. To get it basically as soon as you
see it, so that they don't get an opportunity to
produce those three armity.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
By the time that little one breaks ground, when it
gets to the three or four leaf stage, it's already
developing underground laterals.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Right, So you want to get on it early.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like Butch says, when you start to see it, jump
on it.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Oh, you'll win, you'll win.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
But the only issue is it's not as bad as
Virginia button we which can germinate whenever the heck it
wants to. Most of they don't all come out at
exactly the same time, So it may be that you,
you know, you get a spraying, a secondary spray, and
and you'll knock out a vast majority of them, but
you still may get one or two more coming up,
(34:46):
and those are the ones you either want to come
back and spray or.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
The one thing that I just just occur to me.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
If you're using the pre measured uh dissolvable tablet for that.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
That must be new such chamber.
Speaker 10 (35:03):
Oh I think that I'm using.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Okay, So only mix up what you need because it
deteriorates in the spray canister. So if you mix up
a gallon and only use a half gallon and wait
three weeks to use the other half gallon, you're not
doing yourself any service, right, So always, and.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Speaking of your little Virginia button weed little is that
the one with the little tiny flower?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, it's a little four pedal flower. Load to the ground,
nice and lush.
Speaker 10 (35:38):
Is my MSM MSM turkey. The weed cocktail or whatever
you call it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
It still might be a little warm for the weed
cocktail all right now?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
And actually if you'll wait and let some.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Of course, the wheat cocktail has actress in, which has
a pre emergent. But if you go ahead and actually
kind of let some of that stuff sprout and then
spray it, you'll have better.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
You'll still have some.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Activity pre emergent with your atresine, but the combination of
the atressine and the wa free zone as a post
emergent will really knock it out.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Very effectives everything.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
Thank you gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Right, we are very fortunate to have John back on
the line. Good morning, John again, welcome back.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
All right, the Chinese cabbages, uh, the ones in the
earth locks. The white can't over water them, so they're
doing okay, the ones and containers and I'm using the
legs potting soil I leave for the containers. Can I
cut that with some parallite or something or other because
they're holding too much water?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah, or just crush she's over water? Yeah, yeah, you
cause you can't stop her.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Huh.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
So yeah, we we backed her off, but I got
to resurrect some maybe, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The paralyit would help with that. Anything mixing some other courser.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
With that, Yeah, if you have in fact, if you
find maybe can even find some finely ground bark would
be a definite product.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
But other two perlite is what is your water repellent,
So yeah, that would be if you got some.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Leaf mold that maybe isn't quite as decomposed, you know,
you can still recognize it as leaves. Anything like that,
that's course is going to help with that drainage or.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
No, of course, of course not not fine grain, but
course thick.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
The other thing that I have found, especially if it's
clay pots, a lot of times that only has a
hole right on the bottom, so you can if yeah,
it can get blocked a lot of times, or you
if you in fact, they sell pot feet that you
can stick on them. But if you can get something
even if you like put a little pebble or something
(38:03):
under one side so it's not completely flat, sometimes that
can help.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
To use coke bottle caps excellent, except do they still
have cokebon I don't. I don't think well off you
could yeah yeah beard beard screw up bear, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
No, something to hold that up, and yeah, that will help.
And then if you think that it's blocked at the bottom,
just take a pencil or something to run up through
the bottom hole.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Also, yeah, I ran a nail through the whole.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Okay, well we've we figured you knew that, John.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
We were trying to spread that to other people that
aren't near as smart as you are.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
No, I'd listened to you guys for twenty years or
however long you've been on you know, I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Was talking before the show, John, and you are an
awesome caller, and you've been a great friend at the
stores for many, many, many years. Not that many because
we're not that old. But I was telling Scott beforehand.
I said, I actually found a transcript of our very
first show that we did together. I could didn't bring
it in because the tablets were too heavy.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Anyway. Oh, thanks for the calm. Thanks for being a great.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Friend, John, John, have a great.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
We really have had a great run of phone calls.
A couple of things we want to get to. We
discussed vegetable garden. You can be getting started, but with
the temperatures maybe not. One thing you brought up earlier
is pansies.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Real quick. We don't have very long but do not
plant pansies. Now.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
You can put some in some pots maybe, but I
wouldn't put them in the ground.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
There's a soil organism that is very active at our
current soil temperatures, that will kill pansies.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Early, plant them twice.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I love that, and it's one of the things people
would get so mad when they came into story and
we have some all the sacrificial Yes, but is that dragons? Okay,
it's okay, I'm still if you're on snap.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Dragons not dragons.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Say just if you keep too wet, you know, Oh
it's so hot, so I keep watering it.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, don't you know too much water.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
If you if you have planted pansies, they're starting to
will look at the stem right at soil level. You'll
see they've turned black. That's where the organism has attacked them.
So there's nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
You make sure you're not planting them too deep. Make
sure you know keeping them too wet is a problem.
Too wet is a problem for lots of stuff. We
actually this morning, before I came here, I stopped someplace
and the lady knew that I worked at Legs and
she was talking about how herpathos ivy she was having problems.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
She goes, so, well, most people kill them with kindness.
They water them too much. Oh, I water mine every.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Day problems with water and have you mentioned maybe what's
that store where you can get the plastic plants?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yes for problem. iHeartRadio w j Halana Guarden Show. Free
listen to it anytime you want.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
You can go back. Actually you could just leap this show.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I thought we were very informative.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Today is fun. It was great.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
It was great to be with you, and I hope
everybody in back route.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
We are Clegg's Nursery four locations in the Greater Baton
Rouge Jerry.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
You've been listening to the news.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Radio eleven fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. Hopefully we'll
be back next weekend.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
From eight to nine. Have a great evening, Go Tigers,
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