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June 28, 2025 • 43 mins
Boy, it's HOT this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Braden, Butch and the Intern from Clegg's Nursery!
The trio talk about the heat we've dealt with recently, and what could still be planted right now. Butch drags out the soapbox to once again sing the wonders of a micro-irrigation system to help your plants weather the warmth. Also, Braden says it you want a lot of color, think annuals! And we go over our plant of the week, drift roses!
Plus caller questions on hibiscus that's not blooming, getting rid of bamboo, getting grass to grow under a live oak, and what kind of tree would grow quickly!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO LN and
Garden Show, brought to you by Gleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, LON and garden concerns,
all are questions about landscaping called four nine nine WGBO.
That's four nine nine two six.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, and welcome back to wgbo's Wanting Garden Show today. Yeah, okay,
today I'm here with Brandon Friend.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, he had it right first song.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
But she's from Gleg's Nursery.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I just realized something.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
What'd you just realize?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm the dim ball of the group.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Please clo us up four five two six four nine
nine WJBO.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I like how she just doesn't pay attention to what
she does. Sometimes nobody does, which is probably a good thing.
So we've been having a good summer so far.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yep, it's hot, Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
That happened quick too.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, we were spending a little time in North Carolina
and it actually got uncomfortable up there.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I mean really yeah. We were one.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Got up to ninety three, which is extremely warm for
that area up there. But I think it's I think
the temperatures are breaking and I think everything's going to
get back to more just seriously hot, not extremely seriously hot.
So anyway, which actually probably brings up a lot of
questions for people in their gardens. Yeah, I would think, so,

(01:37):
so how what would they do if they had those questions?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You can close up five six, that's four nine nine WJBO.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
This is gonna be a fun show. And as always,
I imagine you have a question or two.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yep, what flowers can be planted right now?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
That's a good question.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
That's the question we hear a lot at the nursery,
and there are I would say a lot of options
as to what you can plant. One thing I usually
do tell customers is if you're planting right now, to
make sure you have some kind of routine water schedule,
especially if you have stuff in pots. But to answer

(02:20):
your question, I would say vinka is an excellent option.
You can do angelonia, you could do pentas, you could
do lantana, you could even do some of the more
perennial stuff like Rebecca colun flower blue Days, all all of.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Which I agree completely with. Notes.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
But one of the things that I'm Jeremy, do you
have my soapbox ready?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Thank you, I get I got so frustrated. One of
the to me, one of the most ideal summertime plants
is colis.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I always forget about. It's one of my favorite annual.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I figured you were setting me up for this, but
I had so many people go, well, it doesn't bloom.
You're not buying it for the bloom exactly.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I mean some of those I can't think of the
names of some of the varieties off the top of
my head, but some of them have such intricate color
patterns to the leaves. You actually want to pinch the
bloom off right. You don't want it to detract from
the color of the foliage. But I mean you put
do you put some of those cold What is the
one that's like three colors?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
There's I want to say maybe flamethrowers. That's it. It's
like salsa rojo or yeah. And there's all sorts, and
they change the names on us every years, so it's hard.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
To keep up with. But you do that as a
mass and then maybe do some white kwhi vinka around
the outside of it. I'll tell you what. You're gonna
have people having rex outside Jersey.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
I mean, that's just you know, I don't mean to
take away from the list you gave because it was awesome,
but I always just this time of year especially, and
they love it. The hotter it is, the so often
those type plants, the colors in the leaves fade as
we get hot. And I've noticed that some with lantana,
some of the newer varieties don't seem to be as
bad about fading to yellow, but a lot of times

(04:22):
with some of the older varieties, you know, they would
fade to yellow. But I think the hotter it is,
the more color you get to coolis leaves. Yeah, I
would agree with that.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I don't get bogged down with oh it doesn't bloom,
you're still gonna get color. Oh yeah, you're You'll get
more color than you'll get from any bloom. But Venka's.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
You know, you mentioned that it's an excellent plant to
plant right now, but I love the way you started
it out. You know, you gotta get on a watering schedule,
and the easiest way to do that is micro irrigation.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, I would agree, And I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I guess I'm I'm getting well, I'm getting old and
more senile than I've always been, but we always when
we leave, we would always set a sprinkler in our
patio to water Shirley's pop plants. And we were setting
it up and we've been having some issues with some.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Because of the way we did it.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
We were getting some rotten area on some lattice work
we were doing, so we were working with that and
we just couldn't get the sprinkler set so it wasn't spreading.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
On the new wood.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, so we were leaving third I don't remember what
day we left, but we were leaving like Thursday morning.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm serious. I got in the car at five o'clock
the day before, drove to Segan Lane. And I always
do this when I have a project.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I buy more than I think I need and then
I bring it, bring what I don't need back, which
I mean is smart because and I knew, you know,
y'all close at five thirty, so I knew I was
going to have one shot at it.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
By six thirty.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
And I remember I got in the car at five
Living Prairie, got to Seagan Lane, pucked out everything I needed,
brought it home.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
By six point thirty.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
We had a sprinkler system in that Patty Micro irrigation
system in that patio, watering.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
All our house plants. Nice.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
When we got home last night, everything looked great. I mean,
that's how simple it is. Yeah, you know, And I
mean this is I had a fifty foot of tubing
and I think I put twelve heads on it, and
there's might have my regulator. I already did have a timer,
so I didn't have to buy a timer. But I
mean it was like, and Sherilan and I are like,
why didn't we do this like twelve years ago. We

(06:36):
wouldn't be fixing rotten lattice right now, right, but no, seriously,
micro irrigation. Come by the store, talked to Braydon, talked
to Zaane scott Rick is probably at Greenwell today. Michael
is a Don Moore. Moore, Yeah, you know, come by
talk to us. It's very very simple to do, very
cost effective. I mean I think, like I said, I

(06:59):
bought way more than I needed. I spent eighty dollars. Wow,
you know. I mean, but again, I'm gonna probably bring
literally probably bring forty of that back because yeah, I
mean again, I was in a hurry and I didn't
want to I didn't want to sit there.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh, I'm gonna need this, I need this, DDE, I
don't need that.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
But again, we push it on the show all the time,
and it is one of the easiest things to do,
one of the not only is it easy to do,
it's cost effective as far as watering, because you're putting
water where it needs to be. You're not watering your
lattice work, the lattice work that I were now replacing.
But it get coming by the stores this time of year.

(07:39):
It's you know, your mother in fact and I when
we did our hat, our house, we actually the system
I put out, the trunk tube or the supply tube
was two hundred foot long because we were going all
the way to the back of the property. So we
got in her mother and I got in this house

(08:00):
and we put all the heads together.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Inside the house.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
I'd take the two being I'd laid it out and
put something on each end because it does come rolled up, and.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, yeah, it's you stood out and it easier
to work with. I mean, we had it all done.
We had it done in thirty minutes, and we weren't
even that hot.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Because we put all the heads together inside. All we
had to do is go outside shoes carried him. I
had my punch to punch. You give me one, I'd
stick it in and we got to the next But anyway,
it got kind of got off the question you had
about what color to use. You'd mentioned some of the perennials,
the pentas, the cone flowers and all that. I like that,

(08:39):
but so often people get bogged down in the perennial idea.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yes, I come across that problem quite often.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
You know, drive by our house, you'll see you know,
we have the pentas. We have so but we also
do the annuals because perennials have a blooms cycle, right,
so you're gonna have time periods where they're not going
to be blooming.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
We're an annual.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
An annual is trying its hardest to go to seed
and reproduce itself, right, so it's going to be blooming
up a storm. And you know, marrigals a perfect example
of an annual. If you let them leave the heads
on the marigolds, they're going to die because they've gone
to seed.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
That's why we always try to what we call deadhead
in the business, but mix some annuals in there. You know,
we have some salvias that are annual salvias. It come
back every year, you know, surely mulchz with pine straw.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Real good.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
At the end of the early part of the winter,
you know, November some time, and we get a lot
of stuff at blacks you return here.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
So annuals will give you a lot more color, a
lot more bang for the buck. There you go.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
That's our catchphrase for today. But especially if you're doing tides.
If you if you want color on your front porch
or something, put some annuals.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
In that est.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
And that's you know, that's the one thing. Now we're
going to go totally to take a right turn here.
That's the one place where I like to see a
high biscus, Yeah, because that's going.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
To be if you have the room for it. It's
going to be a larger shrub.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
If you want something small or whatever, agree with the
you know, little pot of venca kauai venka blue days.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, all sorts of things like that. But a
nice hibiscus at your front door in the pot is
just always if you have the room and the pot
size for it is always in the sunlight. And this
good point, excellent point, excellent point. What if somebody wanted
to call you.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Call us at four six four nine w JBO.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Would they get put smack dab on top of our list?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yep, all right.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I like how she checked the screen and make sure
what else have you got for Santa Clair?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Our garden does it good best right now? What can
we do a plant to.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Help it out?

Speaker 4 (11:00):
A whole lot tomatoes are probably finishing up. I know
when we got when we pulled in yesterday, we had
to have last rites for several of our plants. If
you want to go to the effort, you can start
pruning on your tomato plants. Pruning the dead lower limbs off,
cutting them back on the top, fertilize them heavily.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
You might be able to get them to come through
to the fall. Not worth the effort as far as
I'm concerned, but peppers. Fertilize them if you've got them growing.
Right now.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
A lot of the garden is in a turnover time.
We're going we're looking at some of the hot weather stuff.
Okra eggplant feel peas a caller, we have a collar.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like the way I did that.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Good morning Jay, Welcome to WJB. As God show, how
many we help you today.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Yeah, I have some dwarf hibiscus that have a ton
of blooms on them, but the blooms.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Are not opening. Are they dropping?

Speaker 6 (12:15):
No, No, they're not dropping. They're just staying on. They're
just not opening. And they get plenty sun, plenty of water.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Mmmmm, I don't know. The two things that I would
have asked you about. You could commented on sunlight can
do that?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Also? How long have the blooms been set? Have you
just noticed and starting to come over weeks?

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Several weeks?

Speaker 5 (12:42):
And usually if the blooms don't open, they'll they'll start
to turn yellow and just drop it off.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, you said, how how large is that plant?

Speaker 6 (12:54):
It's probably about a foot and a half and there's
three of them and they are all three doing that.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
But I didn't get them from y'all. That was problem.
That's it right there now.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Now, Typically that is and braden hit the nail on
the head. Typically that is a moisture issue, and what
will happen is that plant will end up aborting that blossom.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Need you do me a favor if you would.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
My email address is bas and boy Daz and dog
R E W E s at Cleggs Nursery dot com
send me a picture of that. I have a sneaky,
sneaky suspicion I might know what's going on, but I
want to see a picture to make sure. Do you
notice any small holes in the leaves?

Speaker 6 (13:45):
I have not noticed, but I haven't specifically look for that.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Okay, two things that I'm I'll go ahead and tell
you what I'm gonna be looking for. There's two insects
that can get on the hibiscus that might cause this.
One of them is an a and that is going
to look like anything from a small, almost transparent green
bug to a black bug.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
There's I don't even know how many varieties of athens
are out there, but they will get on a bud
a lot of times on the high biscus and literally
suck the juice out of it, causing it not to open.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
And another thing, in fact, I'm gonna tease this a
little bit. One of the questions we had off the
air was there's an insect called a flea beetle and
he will get on the plant causing holes, small holes
in the leaves.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
That typically is not so much of a problem as
that can bring secondary issues into normally fungal or viral
issues that could cause that too.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
But take a couple of pictures if you don't mind, Jay,
send them to me and I'll respond. I check my
emails every morning, so I'll get back to you on that.
But have a sneaky suspicion it's going to be one
of those two insects is going to be the problem.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Okay, I would say, when you take pictures of this,
trying to get some good close ups of the buds,
because if there's a fits on it, you'll see them
on the MUDs.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
All right, Hey, thank you so much for the call.
We were talking right.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Before we went to the break about an insect called
a flea beetle. Flea beetles are very prevalent this time
of year. They again, they are a beetle, or what
we call a hard shelled insect. They're not a soft
shell like the aphids we discussed with the high biscus gentlemen.
Typically they're going to be I'm going to say black,

(15:39):
some people may say dark brown, probably about the size
of a fire ant. Typically, we don't identify the problem
as a flea beetle from the beetle itself. We do
it more from the damage. And the damage is going
to be, like I asked guy with the hibiscus, usually

(16:02):
small holes. Some people call it like a buckshot where
you know, if you buckshot and fired at some you
get all these little holes in it. Well, that's typically
what happens on smaller plants, especially this fall on your
what we call coal crops, your brock caps, cauliflower. If
they get into the plant when it's small, it can

(16:22):
damage the plants to the point where replacement would probably
be necessary. Typically hydranges or a plant that typically gets
this insect quite a bit. It's not going to kill
the plant. It's going to cause the plant to not
look good hell holes all in its leaves. But usually

(16:43):
the issues caused by flea beetles are secondary in that
they transport diseases, viruses and all which can get into
the leaves. Especially again, hydrange is where and that's what
will cause severe leaf deterioration. So it is a hard
shelled insect. I recommend the new seven products with I

(17:04):
can't ever say this lambas I threw through them, and
I think is what it is. Eight, which is a
promethron also usually does a pretty good job on them. So, yeah,
that's what flea beetles are. We had that question off
the air early this morning, and.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
We have someone in the oh, we have a studio audience,
and we have a question from the studio audience. Very
nicely held up his hand. Yes you sir in the
second row. Yeah, hi, Jay called back. And this might
be a shock to a lot of everybody else in here.
You were right. It is a fit's huh that one? Right,

(17:39):
So he just was curious now that you know, it's
how do you treat.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
That on hibiscus? That can be a little difficult. Let's
start with the eight product. The promethron is going to
be your best bet.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
But yeah, that's got one right, I can't believe so
you can say. But the other thing is it's on Twister, yes,
lambas fluthan, Yeah, a few bars, but yeah, it's gonna
probably be the best bet for those aphids. There's gonna
be no living with me.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Now.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
That just goes to show though, you can have pest
on your plants and it may take a while before
you actually see or notice that they're there.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, and it took up a close inspection. Yeah, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I was disagreeing with you.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh okay, wow, what that you're not gonna able to
live with them? Now?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (18:36):
That?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Can we do anything about the weeds in our lawns?
And can I fertilize the lawn?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Lawn fertilization right now? It's very touchy because the nitrogen
in the fertilizer with the temperatures and especially as dry
as we are right now, can cause burns and a
lot of people, especially with centipede lawns right now, they're
starting to get that yellowish color to it, which if

(19:05):
you put centipede in Saint Augustine next to each other,
centipede is always going to be a lighter green or
a slightly yellow green. I strongly recommend, and I think
it's pretty much throughout the Klegg's nurseries a product called
mil organite if you want to fertilize right now, it's
an excellent it's an organic product. It's not going to burn,

(19:27):
and it will, especially on centipede, help green it up.
So yes, you can fertilize right now. Be careful if
you're using like the lawn food plus iron something like that,
do not over apply. In fact, if it says it
covers five thousand square feet, you might want to put
it out over six thousand square feet. It's one of
the few times I'll ever recommend, not exactly following label instructions,

(19:52):
but mill organite if you do need to fertilize we control.
MSM is the only thing we can use in the
heat we have right now. Again, I would what about
Image one. Well, image if you have like nut grass
or something like that in your lawn, you can use,
But right now, as dry as we are, I would
definitely shy away from using any type of herbicides because

(20:16):
herbicides work off of what we call tolerance levels. Grass
is more tolerant to the weed killer than weeds.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Are, so the weeds are going to die. The grass
are going to come back, however, and that's why we
have the rates we do, because if you overapply, you.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Can actually damage your grass. Your grass is weak right now,
it's not feeling well. It's got an earache like I do.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
So anytime I don't feel it as well, I'm gonna
come down with more stuff than when I feel strong
and healthy. And that's where your grass is right now.
It's kind of weak. So let's hold off any weed
control unless it's just absolutely have to.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
We have a caller, Well, let's go to them all right,
Good morning, then, welcome to w GBS Lennon Garden Show.
How many we help you today?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yes, morning, sir, morning morning. What does he make my
bamboo week? I'm trying to get rid of it? No?

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Actually, right now is bamboo's perfect season. What you're the
only way to truly is it encroaching from a neighbor?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Possibly? Or did you actually how.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Would I make sure that I don't start war with
my neighbor?

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I would get a backo, dig down six feet about
a foot wide.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Do you know anybody in the concrete business. If you do,
do do.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Okay, then come pour a little wall right there and
that will prevent it from coming into your yard six
feet six feet. That's been proven over time. Just keep
it's not an answer you want to hear. Keep cutting
it back. There is a product called cut vine and
stump killer. If you want to cut sprinkle that all

(22:01):
on it, and I sprinkle painted on there. That will
kill back some of the root system. But that's going
to be your best bet. Is the cut vine and
stump killer or brush rushing stump killer.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I think it's called brushing stump.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Okay, they they got to stop changing names all these things.
But good luck with that. That is that is not fun.
The real estate market i've heard is pretty decent right now.
You might want to consider moving.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
We have a caller.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
How did they come? How did they call in?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
They called six is fournn nine w j BO.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
So if somebody else calls, they would be number two
on our list.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yep. Unfortunately number one is not bad.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
They'd be number one in our heart.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
What about the number one color?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I think we know them?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, okay, good morning, Gigi. Welcome to WGBO is On
and Gardenshaw. How many we help you today?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Good morning, good morning. How are y'all doing this fabulous
now that you called?

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Oh? Thank you. I have a question and this is
on the behalf of a neighbor. She has two live
o trees about forty years old. They're beautiful in the backyard,
and she's angry because no grass will grow underneath him. Nope,
So she wants to cut those trees down.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Nope.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
And I'm being a tree lover. I hate to see that.
So I guess I'm calling to find out do you
have this kind of grass that you would recommend that
she could grow in it, because right now she's said
it's just a mudhole.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
The only shade tolerant grass, and I did air quotes
that you couldn't see is Saint Augustine.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
That's what she has.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
What two things that I'm going to suggest, and I
one hundred percent agree with you, gg. I do not
understand why anyone would even consider cutting down a live
oak tree.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
The value that they add to the property.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Not only from an esthetic standpoint, but from a monetary standpoint,
can't be determined. I mean, I've got five live oaks
in my front yard and I've got one area in
my yard. I'm going to do what I'm one of
the two things I'm want to suggest. One of the
things that you can do and have a lot of
success with, especially if it's two more what I'm gonna

(24:29):
call single plants, is do some pruning. Ideally, you have
an arbist come in and do this, don't try to
do it you or have her do it herself.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I should say, now you.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Do it, but prune some of the lower limbs so
when the sun is in the morning, you get that
low angle that will bring in sun and the same thing.
In the afternoon, you can get what we call the
lower angle sunlight. Typically that's going to give you enough
sunlight to grow some Saint.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Augustine underneath it. What I'm going to have to do
because I've, like I said, I have five live oaks
in my front yard and three of them are grouped
in one area, and there's it's beyond me being able
to do that.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
I Am going to hopefully find a tree company that
will come dump a load of chips, but I'm just
going to mault the area. I'm not going to try
to grow, because, yes, you're right, with nothing else there,
it's going to become a mud hole. But I'm just
going to chip the area or mulch it and just
keep it as a nice mult bit. I'm not gonna
plant anything in it. Surely, if we get a weed

(25:33):
or two or something growing up in there, she's gonna
go out there and spray round.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Up on it.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
But if you are out of LSU, they've done a
lot of that out of LSU where they were you know,
all the.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Live oaks out there.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
They just do a large mulched area underneath it, and
that actually looks very good.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
But the value of those live oaks.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
In your neighbor's yard is just it's unbelievable the amount
of value that it's putting to her property. So, especially
if they're more single trees, try the pruning thing, Try
and raise some of the lower limbs to get some
what we call angled sunlight in to the ground, and
she'll be surprised how the Saint Augustine. The other thing
is anytime during a drought, seat drought time, anytime during

(26:16):
a drought, that live oak tree is a big bully.
It's sucking up all the moisture. So she's gonna want
to go out there and do some watering to help that.
Saint Augustine. And also Saint Augustine is a teenage boy
is I think if you're who I think you are,
you know how food that it's very hungry, So you
would want to do probably three fertilizations on Saint Augustine

(26:37):
every year. But try the pruning. I think that would
be successful for her.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
So if the grass is rather there and she does this,
she has the pruning down, will there Augustine, Saint Augustine
come back on its own or does she don't need
to get some side or.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Some seed, and there is no seed for Saint Augustine,
so that's off the table. Now that's fine, No, I mean,
I was information I was giving you. It just depends
on her. If it's so barren and she, you know,
apparently she does not like the mudholes. She may want
to lay some sad out there, Saint Augustine with the fertilization.

(27:17):
Once it gets enough light, we'll come back into the
area relatively quickly. One of a third option here that
I'm going to And this goes back to when our
children were in preschool at Broadmoor Presbyterian Preschool, they had
several live oaks in the front of the church over there,

(27:37):
and they literally had in their annual budget every other
year they would reside.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
So that's an option.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
You know, that was a relative But for a homeowner,
that's probably not that much money, and you know it's
going to last there for a while. But you know, maybe,
like I said, every other year or so, just have
her put some more sod out there.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Now, the sod do you have to get like this?
Can you do like Zoist here where you just do
patches and then it fills in?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, yeah, you can.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
You can plug it, patch it, you can solid sod
it however you want to do it. You know what
I always tell people, and this is not a negative comment,
but that depends on your budget.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Okay, So I have one other question. Can I ask
that or about Okay, it's about our oak tree that's
in the front of the house. And I called about
six months ago asking about why this particular route is
doing this weird thing about coming up out of the ground.
And we're suggesting to me that it's not getting enough water,

(28:44):
and so it goes where the water is, which is
closer to the surface.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Right.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
So, and you suggested that we get out there and
water it more often so that it doesn't continue doing that. Well,
I want to ask you, we didn't do that. We
should have, but we're going a lot. So anyway, what
can I do? I mean, is it too late? It's
probably raised about five inches off the ground.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yes, I'm running into the same thing at our house.
Especially with live oaks, they are going to be that's
their anchor roots and they are going to be more
towards the surface. And that's one of the other reasons
I'm going to do the mulch bed around there and

(29:32):
all of my trees right now have a mulch bed
around them that comes out about six feet and that's
going to keep enlarge. And that is strictly because of
those surface roots. I just got tired of boom boom
boom on my mowro over them all the time, right right,
So yeah, you may just need to start putting mulch
around there just when you maultro. Don't put mulch up

(29:54):
on the stem of the tree. Try to keep when
you In fact, I tell people start right at the
tree where it touches the ground and then raise the
mulch going out, so you almost create like a little
bit bowl.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
But yeah, I know what you're dealing with, Gig.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
It is a problem with live folks. They do tend
to have those surface roots. And like I said, our house,
we got a minimum and I need to even them
out on all the trees. But my narrowest one that
comes six feet out from the tree because of those roots.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
And so it's sixty it's not like you're following the
drip line.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
You're just it's truthfully, if I if I was doing
it correctly, I would mulch out to the drip line
of the tree. But I'm old, fat and lazy, and
I'm not going to mulch that far out. So I'm
just meulching out about six feet to cover those surface roots.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
So that would be the diameter of.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Twelve feet approximately. Yes, I mean that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
If you're if that roots you're having issues with only
comes out three feet, just come out three feet. There's
no magic to the six foot other than that's you know,
kind of where my where I could mow without bomping
over the roots.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, and so that that there is no magic to
six foot. That just happened where I was. I've got
one of them is probably ten or twelve foot. Like
I said, I need to make them all uniform. And
but until Shirley yells at me about it, I'm probably
not going to.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
And the knowledge that you are going to be using
is woodships.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Right now, I'm for some and it varies, but right
now I'm using what we call what Clegg sells as
hardwood chips or hardwood munch. I kind of fell into
it by accident. It's relatively inexpensive, actually, I think it's
kind of cheap, and it looks good and it holds

(32:00):
up well, so I said, I had been doing other
other types of mulch. I've been looking in some cedar mulch,
and I've been looking at some other things, and like
I said, it's you rip it, I take it bags.
And I just happened they had a bunch of ripped

(32:21):
hardwood bags one time, and I'm home and then I
found out they sell it in bulk.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Got my little pickup truck. I come by the story
every once in a.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
While, get a yard back up wherever I need to
and just rake it out and grab a beer and
go outside.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
A great phone calls GG, thank you.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Thank you so much, y'all have a great day.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
You too by me?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Does O who my phone lines at four to sixcess WJBO.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
That was that was a very good I appreciate that
phone call. From the standpoint of.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Cutting, if it's a water roAP, cut it, you know,
to move it immediately, don't in fact go ahead.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
It's the only way we would say, don't listen to
the show anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Colin Arbus right away.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
But live oaks just adds and unfortunately sometimes I see
where they're planted wrong.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Oh let's put a live oak six feet from the house.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Well, no, but you know, for something, you know, especially
if you have you know, we're we're on two and
a half acres and I've got five live oak trees
in the front half acre, which is my front yard,
and it just adds so much to the house. Had
a guy come in, we've upliit them. I'll tell you

(33:40):
what there's He has gotten more phone calls off of
our uplight of these live oak trees.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's just phenomenal. The appearance of that at night, that's
just unbelievable. Trees make a different Trees make a huge difference.
And speaking of trees, what do you think of drift roses?
Nice second, no one, but I appreciate the gun. Yeah.
So actually that's is that our Klegg's plant of the week.

(34:07):
That is Kleg's plant of the week. Oh well, I'm
glad I just happened to think of that.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
I love your enthusiasm right now. But uh yeah, so,
and that that's one rose that I would say, I
wouldn't say it does amazing, but it does better than a.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Lot of other roses through the summertime.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
And certain you're darker colors, you're red your coral even
I can't think of the pink one.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
It's pink when it's sweet. You get to some of the.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yellows and the whites, and they're not gonna hold up
quite as well. But and I was telling you off
air a few minutes ago, coral drift roses. In twenty sixteen,
our backyard flooded. We thank god, we did not get
any water in the house. But Shirley has three coral
drift roses planted back to the entrance to our vegetable garden.

(35:03):
And I was standing out on our wooden deck looking
over the lake backyard at the time, and I could
see this little orange glow underwater of these coral drift roses.
And when that water went down and it where we were,
it came up and went down very quickly.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
But they were fine. That is it really is. It's
really pretty crazy. That's impressive. Yeah, drift roads, there are
a smaller bloom.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
You're not gonna well, you could probably cut some blooms
and bring them in, but there are shrub rows.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Easy to excuse me. Even my wife.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
She says, Okay, it's time to prune the drift roses.
And I crank up my battery operated to hedge pruner
and brun them up.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
She's perfectly happy with that.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
They do come in lots of colors, eight or nine
different varieties. They're sold at Klag's Nursery. Excellent landscape shrub.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, and I would have I have to agree with you.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Out of all of the different colors that they have,
that coral.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
One, the sweet drift is we have that in the
front yard.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
But I love those coral ones in the backyard. We
have a phone call we do.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Good morning, Graham, Welcome to wgbo's London Garden Show. How
man we help you today?

Speaker 7 (36:21):
I was listening to the earlier color about the live oaks,
and I was so jealous.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Of forty year old live oaks.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
I currently have no trees in my backyard. It's a
baking plane and I'd like to get.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Some shade back there, and preferably a beautiful live oak.
But you know I'm not going to be around for.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Forty more years, So can you suggest that a quick
growing tree that I could plant and get some shade?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Graham.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
One of the things that I'm going to give you
some suggestions in just a second, but proper planting, fertilization
and water you can make any tree relatively fast growing.
When my wife and I bought the property we're in
right now, we bought it about thirty years ago, and

(37:09):
I've been mentioning the five live oaks in my front yard.
They were six foot tall when I planted them thirty
years ago.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Now they are eighty feet tall. Wow. And what it.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Was exactly For the first probably ten to twelve years,
I was very determined I was gonna get them growth.
So anytime we had any type of a drought, I
had soaker hoses and I fertilized them four times a
year with Grower Special And they.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Are eighty foot tall right now. Most people, and I
understand what you're going, I say, I don't want to
put that much work and get a red maple.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
There's what is it? I can't think of the some
of the varieties. It's drummonds. Red maple is made Florida Flame,
thank you. They are brandy wine.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, they are beautiful trees, relatively quick growing on their own. Again,
proper planting, watering, fertilization can step that up. But yeah,
a maple tree.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Also some of the oak trees, shue marred oak is
going to respond to the care also and is actually
an unbelievable tree.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
That's a beautiful tree.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
So either a maple Florida flame or brandywine or schumarred oak.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
What about like a drake or ali m. I think
that's that's going to be a smaller growing tree. I
don't know how large you want.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
I'm I'm sorry, I just jumped to the larger shade trees.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
That's what I want.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, either not close to the house.

Speaker 7 (38:55):
I know that now.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, minimum on those trees, I would say it would
be about twenty five feet and that is a minimum.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
Okay, all right, how bod in my front yard where
it will have to be kind.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Of close to the house.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Then I strongly Braydon had a great idea an alley
or drake elm.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Or also maybe like a Chinese fringe that's a slower
growing tree.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
But they don't. I don't think they get quite as big.
Huh No, depending on the size ali elm is what
you really want to look for.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
The true drake elms or some disease issues, they can
get what they call stem canker, where the ali elm
is much more resistant to it. That's going to be
tree probably is going to max out at about thirty
feet tall, going to probably get a span of twenty
feet to it, So you could go ten to fifteen

(39:54):
feet out from the house. Even if you go a
little bit closer than that, you can prune it off
the house and you don't have to worry about the
root system on those trees. But yeah, I would recommend
an aliam if you're looking for something smaller, the fringe
tree would be a great choice. French trees when they
start blooming in the spring, clegs can't keep them in

(40:15):
the flock. A lot of they look like big snowballs
out in the tree and they're all over town, just
solid white blossoms.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
But again, if you wow, that's going to be.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
About twenty feet maybe ten to fifteen foot across. But yeah,
if you're looking for something a little bit smaller, that
would be a good suggestion.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
Great, well, I now have my and when do we
plant trees around.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Here all time?

Speaker 4 (40:38):
You can plant them year round. If you plant right now,
that tree is going to depend on you and care.
I if I'm not in a hurry, I want to
know the best time to plant it.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
It's going to be this fall, Okay, great.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
All right, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
And that's two great footballs in a row. Thank you
so much. Planet of the Week.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Drift roses eight or nine different varieties colors. Darker colors
are extremely resilient. Here will look good all summer long.
Some of the lighter colors can deteriorate. You said we
only had two minutes, and I went like ten seconds
before you said two minutes.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Real quick.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
One of the things that Braden had on his list,
and I'm glad he had it.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
If you have.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Kids, want to do something, have a little bit of
area in the backyard, maybe a large pod.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Even plants some pumpkin seats. Yeah, they are extremely easy. Yeah,
grow your own pumpkins for this Halloween.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
If you plant now by the middle of next month,
you'll have them for Halloween. Excellent something to do with kids.
A couple of things you can look for. Issues wise,
make sure you keep them, water them fertilized. The most
important thing all of your plant material, all of your annuals.
Right now, get out in the yard and fertilize them.
They're hungry. You've been water and we're having rain that

(42:02):
washes the nutrients out. So it's important. On annuals. Most
of your shrubbery trees. I kind of back off fertilizing
right now. If you have if you have a new planting,
maybe you might want to fertilize if it's been in.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Six or eight weeks.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
But excellent phone calls on the trees. I really do
appreciate it, and I think I can get this out wild.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I can't wildfire. Excellent tree, excellent, excellent smaller.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
A little bit further away from the house, we are
Cleg's Nursery. We are Baton Ridges Independent Garden Center. For
locations in the greater Baton Ridge area, Seagan Lane, don More,
mid City, Greenwald Springs at Sherwood Forest and Range Road
in Denim Springs. It's been fun like excellent phone calls.
Good show. Glad you're back in turn all right, you've

(42:52):
been listening to the news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's
lawn and garden shows.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
We'll be off next week. We'll see in two weeks.
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