April 7, 2025 • 44 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, Scott and Zane from Clegg's Nursery talk about our recent challenging weather patterns, and how they're still getting some questions about freeze impacts.
Also, why it's time now for pre-emergent herbicide for your flower beds and why it's late for pre-emergent on your lawns.
And we've got plenty of your questions - ranging from grass care, moss on trees, raising monarch butterflies, starting a hyrdroponic garden and more!
You can be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show by giving us a call between 8am and 9am Saturday mornings at 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! Or you can leave us a message anytime by using the Talkback Mic on our free, new and improved iHeartRadio app!
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Also, why it's time now for pre-emergent herbicide for your flower beds and why it's late for pre-emergent on your lawns.
And we've got plenty of your questions - ranging from grass care, moss on trees, raising monarch butterflies, starting a hyrdroponic garden and more!
You can be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show by giving us a call between 8am and 9am Saturday mornings at 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! Or you can leave us a message anytime by using the Talkback Mic on our free, new and improved iHeartRadio app!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine n six.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, baton rouge. It's a beautiful, slightly windy morning
here in the Capital City. I'm Scott Rica here this
morning with Zaane Mercery.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Good morning, Zane.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm doing well. We're both from Cleg's Nursery and we
have Jeremy Porcin making us uh well, trying to make
us sound good because after.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
All these years, I'm still terrible at this.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Let me know about that.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're here for about an hour. We're going to talk
a lot and garden. We've got, you know, the spring
is here. We've had some.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Uh weather patterns that I've been a little trying to many.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Gardeners and to myself.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, well you're a gardener. Yeah your yard. By the way,
I enjoyed looking at you standing yeah. Oh yeah, everything
I tell you. Yesterday we were having to hold the
plant up and watered at the same time. In the
back and we have thousands and thousands of plants and
that's just well, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
The guys are uh one excited when I was like,
when they tell me that the plants can't stand up, Yeah,
it's like, if you can't get them to stand up,
that's right to start watering.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And yeah, we watered so many yesterday and it'll be
another thing today. Yeah, we've got rain coming in tonight,
though pretty substantial, I think, but I.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Never count on it till I see it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, and that's kind of how I have to play
by here. Yeah, because the past couple of the past
few times, I just skinned off to the side of us. Yeah,
I was rain, rain, rain. It scans off to the side.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So yeah, I never turned off the sprinkler clocked unless
I know that is raining.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, exactly. So you were going to compliment me on
my flower beds because they look pristine other than the
weeds and the grass.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Your your yard is a pleasure to look at when
I drive down that road. So I'm not gonna tell
everybody where your road is.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I usually get a couple of compliments.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and it's well deserved.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
There's a few people that drive by this step.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, I've got lots of people still have Freeze questions.
If if anybody has any questions, they want to give
us a call. Oh, the phone number here four six
is fourn On nine w JBO. I'll just go ahead
and do it now because I'll forget later. But you
can listen to it, you know the phone number.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But but the iHeartRadio you can listen to us on
the podcast there iHeartRadio and WJBO on a garden show.
So if you hear something and you can't jot it
down fast enough something you need to remember, you can
go back and listen to it, and it's for free.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, it works out really well.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So moving on. Mm hmm. I don't know about you,
but I've been loving the white trees that are in
bloom right now. I mean there. They should be finishing
up soon, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, but you see you said that to the wrong person,
because I've seen lots of different white ones.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
But I know what you're talking about. Yeah, what is that.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Chinese fringe and the Grancy and the Grancy Graybeard.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, and the Chinese Fringe and the Grancy gray Beard
are first cousins yep.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So the Grancy gray beard is native.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But it's it's a beautiful tree, but it's not as
big and showy as the Chinese fringe tree.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I find it looks more airy. Yeah, it's in bloom.
There should be a.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Really pretty one on Drisilla, certain if it's still there.
But it was actually one of the biggest ones I've
ever seen. And when I was a child there always
had one on Sherwood Forest Boulevard. But that one's going yeah,
oh well it happened, but I still remember it. Yeah,
and I didn't even know what it was at the time,
so but it's still struck in my memory.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
But no, I mean, and they're just I mean, obviously
it's a short bloomed tree. You know, you get.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Meaning short in time, yes, lime span.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You know you get a month maybe, but three four weeks, yeah,
of it being in bloom, but like the Chinese fringe
when it's in bloom and that's a snowball.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh yeah. And that that tree it is.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I love the way it changes from when it's young,
rather smooth bark, to where it gets older it develops
a deeper furrowing in the bark. It looks like an
oak trunk. Yeah, it's a really pretty tree. There's one
beautiful one at that McDonald's on Lobdell in Florida or Wooddale.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, there's like three, three or four at the McDonald's
on Drucilla.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, and there's something McDonald's on Range Avenue down exactly.
I guess Bill who is here sometimes, Bill Roundtree, who
does a lot of those. He realizes the value of
that tree and planting many.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And I mean it's just a just in general, it's
a pretty tree, not.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
In bloom, you know it is. It makes a nice tree.
It's not evergreen. Neither of those are evergreen.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
But you you can actually get some shade with it too,
once it gets a decent science.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, if you want a small tree, let's say there's
a section between the house and the driveway, you could
possibly use something like this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
In that spot.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So we've already got a phone call. Wow, Yeah, everybody's
a week. Yeah, that's cool, David, Good morning, and thanks
for calling the WJBO on a garden show.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
What's up this morning?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Hey, I'm looking to get advice on how to control
indian or I think indian goose grass, but goose grass
in general, and Saint ogg and centipede and a in
a front yard and also just a yard in general.
I've gotten I'm called the three places around Baton Rouge,
and we've gotten three different answers.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, you're gonna have two different answers just because you
gave me two different types of long turf. Okay, So centipede,
you can use cethoxidin, which we sell as a grass beaeder.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah or I believe, well it's changed, or that was
the last thing.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It just says grass killer.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay, all right, So sethoxidin mixed with an oil surfactant,
not your regular spreadersticker can be used on centipede grass. Now,
your centipede grass is not really as active as it
should be before spraying. Right now, you want your your
centipede to be awake and growing. But that is a
(06:32):
good grass killer, which centipede has great tolerance to. It
will kill Saint Augustine. So make sure you're not spraying
it on the wrong lawn.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And luckily for.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Me, the difference is between the sidewalk and the street
is the Saint ogen from the house to the sidewalk
is centipede.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so Saint Augustine is more difficult because
you're trying to kill a grass out of a grass
and we don't have chemicals or the Saint Augustine doesn't
have the same tolerance to these grass killers.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's center.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And there's there's a few products out on the market
that can hit goose grants and not just kill your
Saint Augustine, but it'll definitely stun it. Yeah, And I mean,
if it's really like in my situation at home, I
just use a hoe for the That depends on how
much it is. It just depends how Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
It is very pervasive in the yard, unfortunately in these
certain spots. I've tried doing the uh pre emergent.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That little wheat.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh yes, I've done the pre emergant I have. I
even got advice about sedgender, the bonnit sedgender that could
possibly do that as well. Of course round up, but
I don't want to kill the grass. It's probably early
enough in the season to where it can actually grow back.
So that's played C D or E. I'm not sure
which one yet. Yeah, but but yeah, like sedgender they
(07:59):
said could work possibly for both as well.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'm not I don't know now, if you will call
me at the Greenwell Springs store later today, I have
somebody that would be a good reference that we could
I could probably pull some information from somebody that's got
an extreme amount of knowledge on that. So if you
(08:23):
I'll be at the Greenwell Springs store probably by nine
point thirty, you know, after the show, and if you
give me a call there. The phone number is two
seven five seven zero zero six. Call me there and
I'll get your information and I'll try to gather some
information to get back to you. But yeah, centipede easy,
Saint Augustine not so easy?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, I appreciate the advice and I we'll give you
a call later.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
All right, sounds great, Thanks David. Care.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know, it's really important that you know what type
of grass you have before you start to spray. There's
different mix rates for different things depending on what type
of grass it is. Some of the herbicides that could
be used over one type of turf will kill another.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So it's extremely important.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And if you can't tell the difference between Saint Augustine
and centipede, there's really a pretty simple way to tell.
If you pull one of the stems that runs along
the ground. It's called a stolen and the stem runs
long ways. If a set of leaves comes off directly
opposite each side. You see, I'm doing this with my
(09:36):
finger on the desktop, saying it comes out directly across
from each other on each side of that stolen, that's
Saint Augustine. If it has one to the left and
then it goes up a little bit, then there's one
to the right, then goes up a little bit, and
one to the left. That's centipede. That's called alternate versus
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opposite branching. And that's the easy way to tell those apart.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You know, I hate to say hell long it took
me to realize that I could tell people that in
the easy fashion. We're going to go ahead to another caller,
and we do have lots of open phone line, so
get your calls together and call for nine nine ninety
five two six, just like Philip, Philip, Good morning, what's
up today?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Good morning, Scott?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Good morning?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Uh I you know I hadn't made it out there
to see you recently, and I've been troubled by this
uh uh when you see it a lot on the
LSU campus.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
But the reason.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I'm calling is because I found some on my alphea
this week. It's that it looks like Spanish moss that's
growing out of the plant.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's like a I call it a.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Ball lichen or a ball malls Okay, so it's shaped
like a ball, yeah, man, a little ball. Okay, that's
that's ball moss. Yeah, that's a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
You want to go and pull that. Oh, you want to.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Pull that off.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's not a good way to kill that, but you
want to pull it off and it there's actually a
billboard signed it I pass on my way home that says,
bag the moss, Bag the ball. I think it says
it's becoming a big problem here, Philip. There's not an
easy way to control that, picking it off, bagging it
(11:18):
so it can't put any more seeds out. That is
actually a type of vermeliad, and so is Spanish moss.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's why they look somewhat similar.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But some Spanish moss would be drap whereas the ball
moss actually makes these little it's like a little tough. Well, yeah,
a little tough. That's a good name, a good word
for it.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Just Anne and I have watched, you know, she just retired,
so we were on the campus every day. We have
watched I mean multiple trees, yes on and they're dead.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah. It started around the parade grounds.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yep, that's all.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And there's a lot downtown and yeah, just any that
you're able to pull it off the tree, bag it
and put it in the garbage as. I don't have
any better advice for you. They were saying it at one time,
baking soda and oil, horticultural oils mixed together.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But they've tried that. That's not doing any good.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
So okay, okay, well look Scott, onto another subject. I'm
no better than anybody else. I lost three you could,
would you recommend a variety an orange, a shatsuma and
a and a lemon? Oh no, no, my wife is
saying naval orange.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, okay, it's just the Louisiana navel. There is a
There is a red navel which the flesh is red.
They don't taste that much different to me. If you
wanted a thin skin, yeah, if you wanted a thin skin.
At my house, I have a hamlin and a moral
blood orange. But I like the hameling better and it
ripens earlier. You don't have to worry about the freeze
(12:57):
on the friend that is the best juice and wrnge.
It's great and I don't I do some of it,
but I eat most of it fresh. And then the lemon.
Most people use the mier lemon and that's a heavy
production lemon.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So it's a good good guy. Yep. I've got.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
My citrus are very old there, twenty years plus and
I think I'm losing the majority of them.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, I got to cut half of my tree was
ten foot tall.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, well my my moral Blood orange was but maybe
twenty five foot tall, and actually it was starting to
flush back out, and I'm thinking, great, this is great,
But I walked around the house the other day and
it's so stressed that it's been infected by borers.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And so I'm gonna have to cut the tree down.
So not good.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
My Brown Select made it the satsuma yeah, and uh
and it's but it only made a Scott because it
was fruitfully growing under an orange and another sat sum.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It was had a Yeah, I had an appeal, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
But those ones on both sides died. So I'm gonna
have to come out to UH store.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And you mention, Yeah, hamling is delicious. Oh, that's not
a navel though, that's not a navel. It's just just
Louisiana navel.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Okay, Scott, Thanks Philip.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh Satsum. You already mentioned Brown select Or or Worry.
Those are, uh so the two old favorites. There's some
new ones that miho arctic frost. I've never seen those grow,
so I don't I can't really tell you about those.
But Brown select and a Wary excellent. All right, thanks Philip.
(14:42):
It's quite windy. The big flags are pretty much fully
extended from the with the with the breeze out there,
so that winds kicking pretty good. And uh but it's
still a nice day to get out. You can do
lots of things in the yard if it's not too wet.
Not a good day to spray herbicides, maybe other things,
(15:03):
but not herbicides. It's a good day to walk out
and see to plan, to plan. It's a good day
to change the oil in the lawnmower, sharpen the blades
from the lover.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
That kind of.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's speaking of. Yeah, you I discovered some concrete the
other day.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh not good, not good?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes, So all right, we've got Joni has picked up
the phone, and she dialed I don't know, I'm gonna
ask her, So, Joni, did you dial four six or
did you dial four nine nine?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
W jbo, I just dialed in the nine.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, all right, see either one of those that gets
you here.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
John.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm glad you called. What can we do for you today?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
I am excited about raising mon butterflies again. I've had
good luck the last couple of summers, but unfortunately I
lost my milkweed in the freeze, so I'm really unsure
of when it's time get that going again, and I'm
going to have to start fresh. So I want to
(16:04):
be sure that I get something that doesn't have pesticides
on it. And uh, just I'm curious about the timing
and just getting a safe plant for the butterflies and
the caterpillars.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Well, we don't. We don't spray.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, we like we ourselves do not spray. And then
I usually judge it by if it's covered in the eph's.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know, they always get aphids, Tony, So we we
sometimes will spray the aphis off with water, but we
don't use a pesticide to get rid of the aphis
because they just get aphis.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So I will tell you this. If you wait.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
To plant your plants, I have seen numerous times in
the past where the monarchs have arrived in great numbers early,
and they eat the plant so fast that the plant
can't day up with it, they can't recover. So I
would start now so that my plant had some size
(17:06):
to it, so that when they do find it, you've
got plenty for them to eat.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
So when you say early, well, now you say early,
what moth.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh, I'd start now, Zane Zaane has some in the
yard from last year.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, I have some that I had one die but
had two other ones.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
And what was it, Thursday? I think, when's your Thursday?
I walk out and I see him just roaming on
the on the flower bed. Yeah, the larva, the larva,
just the caterpillar, and they had already eaten them all
to the ground.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So you know, I would, I would get my plants
in the ground.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And if you ever you know, and I have seen
where the same people come in day after day to
keep buying milk wee because what they put in is
getting eaten so fast. And what I've told them sometimes
is put some out there. Put one of those little
butterfly cages over the top of it, or some cheese
cloth ors something to keep the caterpillars or the butterflies
(18:06):
from laying on those individual plants, to let them get
bigger before you allow it, right, so, because if you
put them out, they're small and the eggs are laid
upon them, there's nothing much for them to eat and
then they're bare. Yes, now you can if it ever
gets in a pinch. I only learned this a few
(18:27):
years ago. You can take butternut squash yep, and cube it.
And what the one person would do they would take
the stem on the milkweed and they would cut it
at an angle where it was, you know, kind of pointing,
and we'd take a cube of butternut squash and stick
it on to that point and they'll eat that better
for the larger larva than the smaller ones.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But it is something that's acceptable to them.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
That's interesting. Okay, thank you. And what about any other
plants that are easy to grow that attracts that's a host.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
For other butterflies partially, Jill Fennel, If that's where the yeah,
if you have room, the passion vine is fabulous.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, that's for the Gulf Coast fritllary.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
The black swallowtail is the deal fennel and partially citrus
for the giant swallowtail.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
They're going to be hurting this year.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Are y'all carrying that?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
We have all that.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, we do, okay, at least at the Seagon location.
I think I had a run on the milkweed themselves.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I still have some milkweed at Greenwell and I'm sure
you know you'll be restocking quick.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, we were restocked pretty pretty regularly. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So yeah, it's going to be available.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Joni.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Good, Thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And that opens free free line faces.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Jb O. So wasn't there something going on today that you.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Were not today?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But between the twelfth, the twelfth of March April.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Of April, we're in April, man, go I know, going fast.
So but on the twelfth of April there's the thirtieth
annual Spring Plant Sale and Garden expell where's that. That's
at the Botanic Gardens off of Independence Boulevard. That's seventy
nine fifty Independence at the.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Botanical Gardens, YEP, which is a nice place to go
if you've never been there. I wonder if the Louisiana
iris are. They're probably starting to peak some color out,
because I've seen them along the roads that is absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It goes full of bloom when you make the turn.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They have all those hybrids from mister Mertzweiler, who was
He was a native of Lafayette and he developed the
first tetraploid, the first big.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Louisiana irises.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He's he's the one that developed those, and they have
so many of his there.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They're extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And I haven't been for a long time, but I
used to live near there and I would always go
to look when they were blooming.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Just see I like. I always liked their little rose section.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
They had yup the rose gardens beautiful. I was there
this past fall during the hummingbird migration. I had an
appointment on East Airport and I had some time, so
I went over there and oh, they had this turk's
cap blooming and there must have been sixty seventy hummingbirds.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I just standing right next to it. It was great.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
And I don't know if they still had the bottle brush,
but they had a bottle brush up by the building.
That was, I mean it was probably.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's a nice place to walk around, just a cool
place to hang out. Yeah, you can hike around the
outer perimeter. You can walk through the gardens. They have
all the different crape myrtle varieties. You can see how
they look. Those crape myrtles have been planted, oh gosh
since the eighties, early eighties, because I can remember going
and helping mulch those with Tom Fennel and I mulching
(21:46):
from the back of his pickup truck.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
So I've heard stories about mulching from the back of
his pickup truck.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well yeah, the time we got stuck, yeah, that one.
So anyway, so it was a beautiful place to go out.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
And they're going to have all kinds of little plants
for sale there, gonna have roses, herbs, ferns, native plants, aeroids, gingers,
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I just wish used to irises. I don't know if
they're maybe not.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
They haven't on there. Okay, yeah, but I just wish
I wasn't gonna be working. I have to have you, right,
So I want to go ahead and jump to Michael
and Denim Springs. Since he's here. Good more than Michael.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Good morning, so far.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So good.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
You got rocks in my shoes to keep them blowing away?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I know, right.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
My question this morning guards hydroponics. I have recently decided
to use the land space I have available to me
to grow something besides weeds, and I am really interested
in getting a pilot ar test garden for vegetables going
this year before I expand into a larger space that
I would eventually like to bring to farmers markets and
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stuff and share with the community.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Just don't know, the information.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Online is very overwhelmed and just looking for a place
to go a source and information on how to get started.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, I'm with you. So as far as hydroponic gardening,
I've never done it before myself. Scott, do you have
any good references on that point.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
There used to be a hydroponic gardening store on oh
I guess that was Jones Creek and they have long
since been departed. I'm right now trying to while we're talking.
I'm actually trying to look on the lsu Accenter website
to see if they have any information on there about hydroponics.
(23:39):
But there is somebody that not too far from the
Girnal Spring store that does hydroponic gardening. He does lettuces,
provides material to some of the open markets and other
restaurants and such, and he's been doing it for quite
a while and he's very good with it. And its
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problem is gorgeous. So I don't know, you know how
open he would be to discussing that, but and I don't.
I don't really want to say it over the air.
But just like I suggested to somebody earlier, Michael, you
could try to give me a call at the Greenville
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Spring Store. I can give you some information of where
to locate that. And and I am I wish I
wasn't so slow it typing on my phone.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
You are to see me with my saucy twingers. It's
not a big deal. But I on the l s
U egg site they had a hydro body test and
I don't know how big it was at the Burden Center.
But that article was a couple of years old. There's
some of the information on the internet, but I don't subscribe
to everything on the internet as truth.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So you could go to you know, if you're looking
on YouTube, try to look for some of the cooperative
extension or university films that they do, and I'm looking
at one, two, three, four.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
If I'm looking, I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
At five different articles on the up and some more
classroom adventures hydroponic lesson easy hydroponic hydroponics for So there's
a number of things on the LSU accident or website
that if you haven't already read those that might give
you something. So yeah, having never done it, I mean,
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you have to monitor your your water pH you have
to have the proper nutrient mix.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's my understanding. You have to monitor everything in the water.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Yeah, that's what I've discovered to the electrical conductivity of
the pH as well as the nutrients, which I'm doing.
How to read your plants, which I guess that's any
gardening interview, to watch your plants and they tell you
what they need. So it's very fascinating. I have done
many many rabbit hole dives into this already, and the
more I read, the more I can excited about it.
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Thank you all very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Wish we'd had a little more information, but it is
pretty interesting. You know, some people float their plants. Yeah, uh,
some people have like a trough and they force the water
past it like a rain gutter style, and the plants
are there.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
That was use a PC pape, Yes, so just everything
was notched.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, And there's actually a lot of home systems now
for people to go greens inside the house. I know
somebody's got one, so but it can be quite detailed.
Like you already mentioned, the ec of the water uh
pH is another thing you have to worry about. So
if you're going to do it successfully, there's there's a
few things you need to be aware of. And I'm
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afraid that I would miss the majority of it in
a discussion with you, Michael, no worries.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
About and looking for us to come over to the
green or spring store. So I will come by and
get that information and then maybe we.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Can share some top they off, so I share some information.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Between me and the other grower.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
All right, thank you, Michael, have a great day.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
Thank you, Tick care.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Oh, we'll got some had some good calls.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
We will and we still have open photos at five
two six as four nine.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
W jb O. Well, Scott, do you know what time
it is?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Besides the obvious answer, no, what time is it?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
It's almost about time to fertilize your as the aliens
Oh that time? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, oh you know what it was yesterday? Could have
almost been that time. Yeah, so that time kind of
flows over. So the general answering when do I fertilize
my isaias is when they're finished their.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Spring bloom yep, when they finished blooming.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
When do I prune my isialias those?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Ay, when they finished blooming?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh yeah, how about if they're like some of those
ones that bloom a lot like out.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Of the those are complicated?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, well you putting them after the first in.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
The first bloom, and then when to do it later,
that's the complicated part, right, yeah, because it's just with
because I've got some of those what was it privid
winter perfecto mundo that we had grown on accident or
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, and just saying I just prune them just to
keep them tidy. Yeah, you know, but I'm kind of like,
I won't typically do a mass prune on a isealia
to mess up blooms. But I'm not also not going
to lose any sleep if it's looking kind of wild
and I need to go.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, yeah, so I mean pruning there are guidelines but
they're not absolute. Ye Oh, it says to prune your
great myrtle in February, but it's June and I've got
this branch that cut it, get rid of it. So
but the general rule for if it's a blooming plant,
if it blooms early in the season, you prune it
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after it blooms, because that type of plant produces its
flower buds the previous fall.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
So on the old wood, right, So if you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Prune it too early, you cut all the flowers off.
And if it's something that blooms in summertime, well that
blooms on new growth, so you prune it early in
the season. Pruning early with proper nutrition promotes new growth.
So a lot of times that increases your flowering in
the summertime.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
So that's not difficult.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And if it's something that doesn't bloom or the bloom
is insignificant, some of those you can start blooming pruning
at the end of February and you can still prune
right now.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
There's selective pruning and non select non selective pruning, So
it depends on what you're trying to achieve.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
So I mean, like, if only I could get up
on my if I had like a boom lift, would
true my creeper?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Why don't you just put a ladder in the back
of your truck?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Exactly exactly. No, that's one thing. It's like if I
if I was a younger guy, even.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Though you're not that old, that's right, you know, Yeah,
I would go out there.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Always be safe and tip it. That's right, Always be safe.
You know, pruning tools are supposed to be arp.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Don't.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Don't prune with dull equipment. That's not good for your
plant and it makes your work a lot harder. But
understand what you're trying to achieve first before you start,
and then realize, oh, I'm going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Because once you start making a cut, you don't stop right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Understand what the abilities are the plants are, and then
go to town. You know something I use all the time.
You're probably too young to know this, but so how
do I prune my cruit?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Murderer?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I was like, did you ever see the first Karate
Kid movie? And they're like, what the hell is this?
What the heck is this guy talking about? He says, uh,
he said, he gives them the little Bond's eye. He
goes what do I do? He goes close eyes, picture tree, Now,
open eyes, cut off everything, not look like tree. I
mean it's really almost that simple, and everybody's vision is different.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
So it's your yard.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Is what you wanted to look like, not what you're
worried about your neighbors think it looks like. Make it
pleasing to yourself. Okay, that's that's my rule. Make it
pleasing to you. It's yours, that's right. But yeah, having
a vision of what you wanted to do, whether it's
just flat top and square sides, okay, no, that's what
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you want, and work towards that. You wanted something much
more sculptured, like a credit myrtle.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, well it's like my Japanese maples. Yeah, I mean,
like I look at them, I'm trying to get them
structurally airy.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So you're thinning some of the branches in between, it's
not not so much thick in the middle. So, yeah,
have a picture of what you want and then just
start clipping slowly. There's no rule that says once you
pick up the printers you have to finish in a
half an hour. You could print a few leave it
next day, come back, look at it and go oh yeah,
I could take that one out. Also take that one
out and just work on it over time. Okay, got
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a good question from Jared. Let's go to Jared. Jared,
good morning, thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
What's up this morning?
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Yeah, how y'all doing.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And enjoy your show? Thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
What I wanted to ask you?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
It seems like, uh, I go to your Seagan store
and ALSOLD the Dental Spring store. I've been out quite
a bit of Cherokee purple tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
They I'll have trouble getting those.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It's just a early we find out you're coming to visit,
all right, and then we sell them all.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'm just I'm just going to say this. He didn't
say he goes to the Greendal Spring store. I had
a thousand of them yesterday, Jared. But I'm sure we'll
be sold out when you get there today.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
No, no, Jersey that yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Up.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
My second question, can you plan a cantalope?
Speaker 10 (32:50):
I got a few little spots that are high up
next to a watermelond. They crossed pollen eate with the bees.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
What have you are?
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
They crossed pollinate?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yes? Will that affect your fruit.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, the cross pollination affects the seed, Jared, not the fruit. Okay, wonderful, all.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Right, if you harvested.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Oh yeah, I hear all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, I planted this next to this, and now the
fruit's different. No, that's not how that works. So let's
go back to the tomatoes. Some varieties the growers don't
sell and as big a numbers at certain times of
the year, and so sometimes some varieties are a little
more available later, like talladega and Florida ninety one. Will
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those people think of those as the ones that do
better in the heat, so the growers start those a
little later, so they're timed more for the people that
are planting the ones in the heat.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So Cherokee purple.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Is not it's a good tomato, but it's not grown
in the same numbers by most consumers doing big boy,
better boy celebrity, and so they focus more on that
early and then they start doing some of the others.
So we will have those, but it's not always as
consistent early in the season.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
It's just not as okay, because it's all in numbers.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
Let me tell you, I'm now, I come over here
from it when I was six, and I've been growing
stuff ever since then.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
And the point I went to North.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Carolina about ten to fifteen years ago and they had
these chair keep per man. They to me theyd one
of the best tomatoes to get, But I guess different.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
People, yeah and go different.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Anyway, Well, thank you very much, and y'all have a
good weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Thanks, Jared, have a great day. I will say that
that's a great tasting tomato, but it's not a heavy
harvest tomato. And our reasons the same with the crim Yeah,
the black crim and yeah, they're a.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Great taste in tomatoes, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Get as many perb bush. So don't expect a bumper
crop when you're doing something like that. But if you
want to have some variety in your garden, certainly put
some in. You'll enjoy the taste. You just won't have
the same amount of harvest. So, and it's just big
on dis You gotta have diversity. Yeah, yeah, and there's
nothing wrong with that, you know, a big tomato, you know. So,
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And we have open phone lines at four Land nine
ninety five two six if you'd like to call in
and get a question in before the end of the show.
And uh, and if you don't, we're just going to
talk about some other things we had in mind.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
So zaying what Yeah, so you know, if you hadn't
done your pre emergent at your flowerbeds, please do so.
Pre emerging that's a pre emergent RB size okay to
weed seeds. Yeah, so like you, because I mean I
don't know about your flower bed, but I mean just
freshly mulched. I already got stuff popping up.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Mind freshly melchre's there's some of it, none but not much.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
But no, Uh, I mean there's just a lot of
stuff going on. I mean you've got everything's starting to
pop up.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Because it's the soil temps starting to get warm enough.
And obviously by means we need to put pre emerging
out in your lawn.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Pre emerging in your lawn. I would say, maybe it's
a little it's a little late. Yeah, I would have
done that like in January. Yeah, and even my flower
bed putting.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
It out early.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
But certainly there's a lot more things that continue to
sprout on that open bed. Yes, and let's focus on
the three letters.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
P R E. Pre.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You have to put it out before the stuff sprouts.
It doesn't kill anything that's already growing. You're trying to
stop it from getting established.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Everything else. I prefer pulling. But I mean you could
spot spray like it kills all product or that new
spruce product whenever we Yeah, I have to see how
it works. I haven't tested it.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It's a Laurel sulfate.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It looks like it's a heavy concentration of soap with
some other oils to get it to work.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
So, but look, get that down and let me look
at my fancy list. You'all can't see, but it's it's
a binder and everything.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, it's pretty nice. So you got your pre emergence.
It's time to start thinking about what you're gonna plant. Yeah, exactly,
you're going to fertilize those. And then do you do?
You what kind of mulch do you like to use? Uh?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
The broken bags, the broken bags of cedar mulch. Cedar
is the best.
Speaker 10 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I love that it's costly. It's costly, but it lasts
darn near forever. And I love the dark color. It's
my absolutely thing.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
It doesn't turn into dirt right like as fast as
because I used to use just regular old hardwood mulch. Yeah,
and because I like it because it breaks down into soil.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right, because that's adding beneficial organic to your soul. So
that's one of the good things about mulch, among many.
It helps shade the soul surface, so it stops some
things from sprouting, it can suffocate some things. It provides
organic matter back to the soil. It's a temperature regulator
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for the soil. Just all kinds of benefits from using
an organic multch, not gravel or am recycling tires. Very
and do not like putting gravel, no, because you're always
having a spray to get the weeds out of pulling
the weeds out.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
So but you know, and it's still time to we
still have time to use like the winter weed cocktail
out in the lawns in your lawn. Yeah, we're getting
close to where you know, it's gonna be a little
bit starting to get.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
A little warm. However, Yeah, it's a temperature good. But
the way that flag is blowing not a good day.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yeah, I mean it's just spray ones and this is
not the time of day you would spray.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, you want to spray when the wind is absent
or minimal, very minimal.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
You want to keep your wand.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Down close to the ground, and you don't want to
overpressurize your tank either.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
And actually I'll set the droplets to depending on how
how much wind we have, yeah, to heavier droplets stream
right versus the.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Fan that's right, that's right, so and knowing where it's going.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yeah. So, but I mean if you have it on
the link the little fan to where it's a missed, oh,
it's just blowing everywhere. It's gonna I mean, it's gonna
shoot twenty feet away.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I never set my sprayer like that, never.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So it's just it's easier. And then I actually put
the dye in mind, yeah, so that I can see,
which I don't usually.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
But I actually if it's a large area, I actually
put string out in the yard so I can follow,
and then I just flip flopped the strings.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
So I never missed a spot and I never double
to a spot.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
And it takes a little effort, yeah, but especially if
you have a large area to do, it's hard to
walk a straight line and reverse when you're spraying herbside.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I know, I used to drag a five hundred foot hose.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, so that's that's very difficult, and with with just
a little bit of extra time, that string string can
really help you do a much more effective herb side control.
But even before that, if that gallon is supposed to
treat x amount of square feet, how fast do you
start off walking? Nobody knows how fast they're supposed to
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start walk.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
It all depends on the person.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
That's right, because you and I can mix the exact
same thing.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
This works for a fertilizer spreader.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Also, if we put the same product in the same
spread and have it set at the very same setting
and you're walking at a different speed than me, we're
not putting it out equally.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
So you have to learn how you do it.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, man, I have say, like, I mean, I'm six
foot tall and long legs. I mean I have a
longer stride than other people. Yeah, you know, so it's
it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And I've got shorter legs, but I walk fast, so yeah,
so it's quite different. So but the liquid herbicides people
always like, so I just put a light coating on it, right, Well,
I just spray it heavy, right Well, I don't know
what that means to you. I will never agree to
that statement, I will always take the time to teach
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you how to figure out how fast you're walking by
taking water and springing it over a known distance on
your driveway, which takes ten minutes for you to learn
how fast you walk, so that you're putting it out
at the proper rate, because it's always the rate that's
so important. If you're putting too much, you can cause
(41:26):
collateral damage that you don't want. These herbicides that you're
spraying on your lawn is not that the lawn is
immune to them. They're tolerant of and if you exceed
that tolerance level, you can cause damage. If you're not
spraying enough, you're not getting enough to cause damage on
what you want to damage. So it's always in the dosage.
(41:49):
And this is you know, which would have said something
about my soapbox, but this is this is something that
is it's so extremely important. You're going to spend the
money and you're going to spend the time. Don't you
want don't you want to payback for that?
Speaker 6 (42:05):
You know?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
It's just uh, you know, I can't see not wanting
wanting that, So.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Yeah, so but anyway, you know, and just get get
off your soapbox.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I'm off, Yeah, I'm off.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
So we just got a few more minutes.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, actually have less than three minutes.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
So but you know, we talked about weed control the
flower bed do we control in the lawn?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I talked about my favorite mulch, fertilization of your shrubs
yours are. It's time to prune most of your material now,
most of the spring blooming material. If it's not finished,
let it finish blooming, then prune it. Uh. You know,
there's not a whole lot that's still blooming right now
that would have bloomed in the spring.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
No, And it's just everything else is just getting ready
to start butting up in blooming.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Mulching the beds, all the beneficial things about mulch, and
then gosh, the selection of bedding plants for your spring
and summer color is phenomenal. Yeah, it's increasing day after days.
They're always adding something more to the mix. So you
could literally come in a couple times a week and
it would be different each time you walk in.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Oh yeah, No, I've got customers that come every couple
of days because they work down the street. He's there
for ten minutes just to see what's new.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I had thought there and it
just jumped right out of my head.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Don't know where I was going with that.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
But don't be overly rushed to go out and prune
winter damage unless you can tell for certain that it's dead.
If it's something that's questionable, there's no harm in leaving
it to see what will happen. With a little bit
more time, you can go all the way to the
end of April if you need to. Those people with citrus,
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I'm pretty much at the thought that most of it
is going to be pretty heavily damaged, if not killed,
this season.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
So all right, it's just it's been a rough it
was a rough, rough.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Rough win winter, you know. Well as always Scott, it's
a pleasure doing the show with you.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, it's great to see you too.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
There's going to be a good day, you know. Uh,
you know, just today when you're out the nursery, lean
into the wind so you don't get blown over again.
Come by and see us if you have questions, and
just if you want to, you know, kill some time
and see some pretty things. Come see us at the stores.
We've got four stores in the Baton Rouge area, one
in Denim three in Baton Rouge, Seagan Lane, Greendal Springs
(44:31):
and don Lore Avenue. Everything packed with color and plants
and we would love to see you and help you
with whatever way that we can. On that Baton Rouge
get out, enjoy your day
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine n six.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, baton rouge. It's a beautiful, slightly windy morning
here in the Capital City. I'm Scott Rica here this
morning with Zaane Mercery.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Good morning, Zane.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm doing well. We're both from Cleg's Nursery and we
have Jeremy Porcin making us uh well, trying to make
us sound good because after.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
All these years, I'm still terrible at this.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Let me know about that.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're here for about an hour. We're going to talk
a lot and garden. We've got, you know, the spring
is here. We've had some.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Uh weather patterns that I've been a little trying to many.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Gardeners and to myself.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, well you're a gardener. Yeah your yard. By the way,
I enjoyed looking at you standing yeah. Oh yeah, everything
I tell you. Yesterday we were having to hold the
plant up and watered at the same time. In the
back and we have thousands and thousands of plants and
that's just well, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
The guys are uh one excited when I was like,
when they tell me that the plants can't stand up, Yeah,
it's like, if you can't get them to stand up,
that's right to start watering.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And yeah, we watered so many yesterday and it'll be
another thing today. Yeah, we've got rain coming in tonight,
though pretty substantial, I think, but I.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Never count on it till I see it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, and that's kind of how I have to play
by here. Yeah, because the past couple of the past
few times, I just skinned off to the side of us. Yeah,
I was rain, rain, rain. It scans off to the side.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So yeah, I never turned off the sprinkler clocked unless
I know that is raining.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, exactly. So you were going to compliment me on
my flower beds because they look pristine other than the
weeds and the grass.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Your your yard is a pleasure to look at when
I drive down that road. So I'm not gonna tell
everybody where your road is.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I usually get a couple of compliments.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and it's well deserved.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
There's a few people that drive by this step.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, I've got lots of people still have Freeze questions.
If if anybody has any questions, they want to give
us a call. Oh, the phone number here four six
is fourn On nine w JBO. I'll just go ahead
and do it now because I'll forget later. But you
can listen to it, you know the phone number.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But but the iHeartRadio you can listen to us on
the podcast there iHeartRadio and WJBO on a garden show.
So if you hear something and you can't jot it
down fast enough something you need to remember, you can
go back and listen to it, and it's for free.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, it works out really well.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So moving on. Mm hmm. I don't know about you,
but I've been loving the white trees that are in
bloom right now. I mean there. They should be finishing
up soon, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, but you see you said that to the wrong person,
because I've seen lots of different white ones.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
But I know what you're talking about. Yeah, what is that.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Chinese fringe and the Grancy and the Grancy Graybeard.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, and the Chinese Fringe and the Grancy gray Beard
are first cousins yep.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So the Grancy gray beard is native.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But it's it's a beautiful tree, but it's not as
big and showy as the Chinese fringe tree.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I find it looks more airy. Yeah, it's in bloom.
There should be a.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Really pretty one on Drisilla, certain if it's still there.
But it was actually one of the biggest ones I've
ever seen. And when I was a child there always
had one on Sherwood Forest Boulevard. But that one's going yeah,
oh well it happened, but I still remember it. Yeah,
and I didn't even know what it was at the time,
so but it's still struck in my memory.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
But no, I mean, and they're just I mean, obviously
it's a short bloomed tree. You know, you get.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Meaning short in time, yes, lime span.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You know you get a month maybe, but three four weeks, yeah,
of it being in bloom, but like the Chinese fringe
when it's in bloom and that's a snowball.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh yeah. And that that tree it is.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I love the way it changes from when it's young,
rather smooth bark, to where it gets older it develops
a deeper furrowing in the bark. It looks like an
oak trunk. Yeah, it's a really pretty tree. There's one
beautiful one at that McDonald's on Lobdell in Florida or Wooddale.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, there's like three, three or four at the McDonald's
on Drucilla.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, and there's something McDonald's on Range Avenue down exactly.
I guess Bill who is here sometimes, Bill Roundtree, who
does a lot of those. He realizes the value of
that tree and planting many.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And I mean it's just a just in general, it's
a pretty tree, not.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
In bloom, you know it is. It makes a nice tree.
It's not evergreen. Neither of those are evergreen.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
But you you can actually get some shade with it too,
once it gets a decent science.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, if you want a small tree, let's say there's
a section between the house and the driveway, you could
possibly use something like this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
In that spot.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So we've already got a phone call. Wow, Yeah, everybody's
a week. Yeah, that's cool, David, Good morning, and thanks
for calling the WJBO on a garden show.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
What's up this morning?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Hey, I'm looking to get advice on how to control
indian or I think indian goose grass, but goose grass
in general, and Saint ogg and centipede and a in
a front yard and also just a yard in general.
I've gotten I'm called the three places around Baton Rouge,
and we've gotten three different answers.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, you're gonna have two different answers just because you
gave me two different types of long turf. Okay, So centipede,
you can use cethoxidin, which we sell as a grass beaeder.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah or I believe, well it's changed, or that was
the last thing.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It just says grass killer.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay, all right, So sethoxidin mixed with an oil surfactant,
not your regular spreadersticker can be used on centipede grass. Now,
your centipede grass is not really as active as it
should be before spraying. Right now, you want your your
centipede to be awake and growing. But that is a
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good grass killer, which centipede has great tolerance to. It
will kill Saint Augustine. So make sure you're not spraying
it on the wrong lawn.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And luckily for.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Me, the difference is between the sidewalk and the street
is the Saint ogen from the house to the sidewalk
is centipede.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so Saint Augustine is more difficult because
you're trying to kill a grass out of a grass
and we don't have chemicals or the Saint Augustine doesn't
have the same tolerance to these grass killers.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's center.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And there's there's a few products out on the market
that can hit goose grants and not just kill your
Saint Augustine, but it'll definitely stun it. Yeah, And I mean,
if it's really like in my situation at home, I
just use a hoe for the That depends on how
much it is. It just depends how Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
It is very pervasive in the yard, unfortunately in these
certain spots. I've tried doing the uh pre emergent.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That little wheat.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh yes, I've done the pre emergant I have. I
even got advice about sedgender, the bonnit sedgender that could
possibly do that as well. Of course round up, but
I don't want to kill the grass. It's probably early
enough in the season to where it can actually grow back.
So that's played C D or E. I'm not sure
which one yet. Yeah, but but yeah, like sedgender they
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said could work possibly for both as well.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'm not I don't know now, if you will call
me at the Greenwell Springs store later today, I have
somebody that would be a good reference that we could
I could probably pull some information from somebody that's got
an extreme amount of knowledge on that. So if you
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I'll be at the Greenwell Springs store probably by nine
point thirty, you know, after the show, and if you
give me a call there. The phone number is two
seven five seven zero zero six. Call me there and
I'll get your information and I'll try to gather some
information to get back to you. But yeah, centipede easy,
Saint Augustine not so easy?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, I appreciate the advice and I we'll give you
a call later.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
All right, sounds great, Thanks David. Care.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know, it's really important that you know what type
of grass you have before you start to spray. There's
different mix rates for different things depending on what type
of grass it is. Some of the herbicides that could
be used over one type of turf will kill another.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So it's extremely important.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And if you can't tell the difference between Saint Augustine
and centipede, there's really a pretty simple way to tell.
If you pull one of the stems that runs along
the ground. It's called a stolen and the stem runs
long ways. If a set of leaves comes off directly
opposite each side. You see, I'm doing this with my
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finger on the desktop, saying it comes out directly across
from each other on each side of that stolen, that's
Saint Augustine. If it has one to the left and
then it goes up a little bit, then there's one
to the right, then goes up a little bit, and
one to the left. That's centipede. That's called alternate versus
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opposite branching. And that's the easy way to tell those apart.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You know, I hate to say hell long it took
me to realize that I could tell people that in
the easy fashion. We're going to go ahead to another caller,
and we do have lots of open phone line, so
get your calls together and call for nine nine ninety
five two six, just like Philip, Philip, Good morning, what's
up today?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Good morning, Scott?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Good morning?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Uh I you know I hadn't made it out there
to see you recently, and I've been troubled by this
uh uh when you see it a lot on the
LSU campus.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
But the reason.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I'm calling is because I found some on my alphea
this week. It's that it looks like Spanish moss that's
growing out of the plant.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's like a I call it a.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Ball lichen or a ball malls Okay, so it's shaped
like a ball, yeah, man, a little ball. Okay, that's
that's ball moss. Yeah, that's a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
You want to go and pull that. Oh, you want to.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Pull that off.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's not a good way to kill that, but you
want to pull it off and it there's actually a
billboard signed it I pass on my way home that says,
bag the moss, Bag the ball. I think it says
it's becoming a big problem here, Philip. There's not an
easy way to control that, picking it off, bagging it
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so it can't put any more seeds out. That is
actually a type of vermeliad, and so is Spanish moss.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's why they look somewhat similar.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But some Spanish moss would be drap whereas the ball
moss actually makes these little it's like a little tough. Well, yeah,
a little tough. That's a good name, a good word
for it.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Just Anne and I have watched, you know, she just retired,
so we were on the campus every day. We have
watched I mean multiple trees, yes on and they're dead.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah. It started around the parade grounds.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yep, that's all.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And there's a lot downtown and yeah, just any that
you're able to pull it off the tree, bag it
and put it in the garbage as. I don't have
any better advice for you. They were saying it at one time,
baking soda and oil, horticultural oils mixed together.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But they've tried that. That's not doing any good.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
So okay, okay, well look Scott, onto another subject. I'm
no better than anybody else. I lost three you could,
would you recommend a variety an orange, a shatsuma and
a and a lemon? Oh no, no, my wife is
saying naval orange.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, okay, it's just the Louisiana navel. There is a
There is a red navel which the flesh is red.
They don't taste that much different to me. If you
wanted a thin skin, yeah, if you wanted a thin skin.
At my house, I have a hamlin and a moral
blood orange. But I like the hameling better and it
ripens earlier. You don't have to worry about the freeze
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on the friend that is the best juice and wrnge.
It's great and I don't I do some of it,
but I eat most of it fresh. And then the lemon.
Most people use the mier lemon and that's a heavy
production lemon.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So it's a good good guy. Yep. I've got.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
My citrus are very old there, twenty years plus and
I think I'm losing the majority of them.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, I got to cut half of my tree was
ten foot tall.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, well my my moral Blood orange was but maybe
twenty five foot tall, and actually it was starting to
flush back out, and I'm thinking, great, this is great,
But I walked around the house the other day and
it's so stressed that it's been infected by borers.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And so I'm gonna have to cut the tree down.
So not good.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
My Brown Select made it the satsuma yeah, and uh
and it's but it only made a Scott because it
was fruitfully growing under an orange and another sat sum.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It was had a Yeah, I had an appeal, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
But those ones on both sides died. So I'm gonna
have to come out to UH store.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And you mention, Yeah, hamling is delicious. Oh, that's not
a navel though, that's not a navel. It's just just
Louisiana navel.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Okay, Scott, Thanks Philip.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh Satsum. You already mentioned Brown select Or or Worry.
Those are, uh so the two old favorites. There's some
new ones that miho arctic frost. I've never seen those grow,
so I don't I can't really tell you about those.
But Brown select and a Wary excellent. All right, thanks Philip.
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It's quite windy. The big flags are pretty much fully
extended from the with the with the breeze out there,
so that winds kicking pretty good. And uh but it's
still a nice day to get out. You can do
lots of things in the yard if it's not too wet.
Not a good day to spray herbicides, maybe other things,
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but not herbicides. It's a good day to walk out
and see to plan, to plan. It's a good day
to change the oil in the lawnmower, sharpen the blades
from the lover.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
That kind of.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's speaking of. Yeah, you I discovered some concrete the
other day.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh not good, not good?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes, So all right, we've got Joni has picked up
the phone, and she dialed I don't know, I'm gonna
ask her, So, Joni, did you dial four six or
did you dial four nine nine?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
W jbo, I just dialed in the nine.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, all right, see either one of those that gets
you here.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
John.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm glad you called. What can we do for you today?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
I am excited about raising mon butterflies again. I've had
good luck the last couple of summers, but unfortunately I
lost my milkweed in the freeze, so I'm really unsure
of when it's time get that going again, and I'm
going to have to start fresh. So I want to
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be sure that I get something that doesn't have pesticides
on it. And uh, just I'm curious about the timing
and just getting a safe plant for the butterflies and
the caterpillars.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Well, we don't. We don't spray.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, we like we ourselves do not spray. And then
I usually judge it by if it's covered in the eph's.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know, they always get aphids, Tony, So we we
sometimes will spray the aphis off with water, but we
don't use a pesticide to get rid of the aphis
because they just get aphis.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So I will tell you this. If you wait.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
To plant your plants, I have seen numerous times in
the past where the monarchs have arrived in great numbers early,
and they eat the plant so fast that the plant
can't day up with it, they can't recover. So I
would start now so that my plant had some size
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to it, so that when they do find it, you've
got plenty for them to eat.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
So when you say early, well, now you say early,
what moth.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh, I'd start now, Zane Zaane has some in the
yard from last year.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, I have some that I had one die but
had two other ones.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
And what was it, Thursday? I think, when's your Thursday?
I walk out and I see him just roaming on
the on the flower bed. Yeah, the larva, the larva,
just the caterpillar, and they had already eaten them all
to the ground.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So you know, I would, I would get my plants
in the ground.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And if you ever you know, and I have seen
where the same people come in day after day to
keep buying milk wee because what they put in is
getting eaten so fast. And what I've told them sometimes
is put some out there. Put one of those little
butterfly cages over the top of it, or some cheese
cloth ors something to keep the caterpillars or the butterflies
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from laying on those individual plants, to let them get
bigger before you allow it, right, so, because if you
put them out, they're small and the eggs are laid
upon them, there's nothing much for them to eat and
then they're bare. Yes, now you can if it ever
gets in a pinch. I only learned this a few
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years ago. You can take butternut squash yep, and cube it.
And what the one person would do they would take
the stem on the milkweed and they would cut it
at an angle where it was, you know, kind of pointing,
and we'd take a cube of butternut squash and stick
it on to that point and they'll eat that better
for the larger larva than the smaller ones.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But it is something that's acceptable to them.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
That's interesting. Okay, thank you. And what about any other
plants that are easy to grow that attracts that's a host.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
For other butterflies partially, Jill Fennel, If that's where the yeah,
if you have room, the passion vine is fabulous.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, that's for the Gulf Coast fritllary.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
The black swallowtail is the deal fennel and partially citrus
for the giant swallowtail.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
They're going to be hurting this year.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Are y'all carrying that?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
We have all that.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, we do, okay, at least at the Seagon location.
I think I had a run on the milkweed themselves.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I still have some milkweed at Greenwell and I'm sure
you know you'll be restocking quick.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, we were restocked pretty pretty regularly. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So yeah, it's going to be available.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Joni.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Good, Thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And that opens free free line faces.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Jb O. So wasn't there something going on today that you.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Were not today?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But between the twelfth, the twelfth of March April.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Of April, we're in April, man, go I know, going fast.
So but on the twelfth of April there's the thirtieth
annual Spring Plant Sale and Garden expell where's that. That's
at the Botanic Gardens off of Independence Boulevard. That's seventy
nine fifty Independence at the.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Botanical Gardens, YEP, which is a nice place to go
if you've never been there. I wonder if the Louisiana
iris are. They're probably starting to peak some color out,
because I've seen them along the roads that is absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It goes full of bloom when you make the turn.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They have all those hybrids from mister Mertzweiler, who was
He was a native of Lafayette and he developed the
first tetraploid, the first big.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Louisiana irises.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He's he's the one that developed those, and they have
so many of his there.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They're extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And I haven't been for a long time, but I
used to live near there and I would always go
to look when they were blooming.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Just see I like. I always liked their little rose section.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
They had yup the rose gardens beautiful. I was there
this past fall during the hummingbird migration. I had an
appointment on East Airport and I had some time, so
I went over there and oh, they had this turk's
cap blooming and there must have been sixty seventy hummingbirds.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I just standing right next to it. It was great.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
And I don't know if they still had the bottle brush,
but they had a bottle brush up by the building.
That was, I mean it was probably.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's a nice place to walk around, just a cool
place to hang out. Yeah, you can hike around the
outer perimeter. You can walk through the gardens. They have
all the different crape myrtle varieties. You can see how
they look. Those crape myrtles have been planted, oh gosh
since the eighties, early eighties, because I can remember going
and helping mulch those with Tom Fennel and I mulching
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from the back of his pickup truck.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
So I've heard stories about mulching from the back of
his pickup truck.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well yeah, the time we got stuck, yeah, that one.
So anyway, so it was a beautiful place to go out.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
And they're going to have all kinds of little plants
for sale there, gonna have roses, herbs, ferns, native plants, aeroids, gingers,
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I just wish used to irises. I don't know if
they're maybe not.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
They haven't on there. Okay, yeah, but I just wish
I wasn't gonna be working. I have to have you, right,
So I want to go ahead and jump to Michael
and Denim Springs. Since he's here. Good more than Michael.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Good morning, so far.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So good.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
You got rocks in my shoes to keep them blowing away?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I know, right.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
My question this morning guards hydroponics. I have recently decided
to use the land space I have available to me
to grow something besides weeds, and I am really interested
in getting a pilot ar test garden for vegetables going
this year before I expand into a larger space that
I would eventually like to bring to farmers markets and
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stuff and share with the community.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Just don't know, the information.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Online is very overwhelmed and just looking for a place
to go a source and information on how to get started.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, I'm with you. So as far as hydroponic gardening,
I've never done it before myself. Scott, do you have
any good references on that point.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
There used to be a hydroponic gardening store on oh
I guess that was Jones Creek and they have long
since been departed. I'm right now trying to while we're talking.
I'm actually trying to look on the lsu Accenter website
to see if they have any information on there about hydroponics.
(23:39):
But there is somebody that not too far from the
Girnal Spring store that does hydroponic gardening. He does lettuces,
provides material to some of the open markets and other
restaurants and such, and he's been doing it for quite
a while and he's very good with it. And its
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problem is gorgeous. So I don't know, you know how
open he would be to discussing that, but and I don't.
I don't really want to say it over the air.
But just like I suggested to somebody earlier, Michael, you
could try to give me a call at the Greenville
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Spring Store. I can give you some information of where
to locate that. And and I am I wish I
wasn't so slow it typing on my phone.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
You are to see me with my saucy twingers. It's
not a big deal. But I on the l s
U egg site they had a hydro body test and
I don't know how big it was at the Burden Center.
But that article was a couple of years old. There's
some of the information on the internet, but I don't subscribe
to everything on the internet as truth.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So you could go to you know, if you're looking
on YouTube, try to look for some of the cooperative
extension or university films that they do, and I'm looking
at one, two, three, four.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
If I'm looking, I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
At five different articles on the up and some more
classroom adventures hydroponic lesson easy hydroponic hydroponics for So there's
a number of things on the LSU accident or website
that if you haven't already read those that might give
you something. So yeah, having never done it, I mean,
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you have to monitor your your water pH you have
to have the proper nutrient mix.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's my understanding. You have to monitor everything in the water.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Yeah, that's what I've discovered to the electrical conductivity of
the pH as well as the nutrients, which I'm doing.
How to read your plants, which I guess that's any
gardening interview, to watch your plants and they tell you
what they need. So it's very fascinating. I have done
many many rabbit hole dives into this already, and the
more I read, the more I can excited about it.
(26:01):
Thank you all very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Wish we'd had a little more information, but it is
pretty interesting. You know, some people float their plants. Yeah, uh,
some people have like a trough and they force the water
past it like a rain gutter style, and the plants
are there.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
That was use a PC pape, Yes, so just everything
was notched.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, And there's actually a lot of home systems now
for people to go greens inside the house. I know
somebody's got one, so but it can be quite detailed.
Like you already mentioned, the ec of the water uh
pH is another thing you have to worry about. So
if you're going to do it successfully, there's there's a
few things you need to be aware of. And I'm
(26:43):
afraid that I would miss the majority of it in
a discussion with you, Michael, no worries.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
About and looking for us to come over to the
green or spring store. So I will come by and
get that information and then maybe we.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Can share some top they off, so I share some information.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Between me and the other grower.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
All right, thank you, Michael, have a great day.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
Thank you, Tick care.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Oh, we'll got some had some good calls.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
We will and we still have open photos at five
two six as four nine.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
W jb O. Well, Scott, do you know what time
it is?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Besides the obvious answer, no, what time is it?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
It's almost about time to fertilize your as the aliens
Oh that time? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, oh you know what it was yesterday? Could have
almost been that time. Yeah, so that time kind of
flows over. So the general answering when do I fertilize
my isaias is when they're finished their.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Spring bloom yep, when they finished blooming.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
When do I prune my isialias those?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Ay, when they finished blooming?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh yeah, how about if they're like some of those
ones that bloom a lot like out.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Of the those are complicated?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, well you putting them after the first in.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
The first bloom, and then when to do it later,
that's the complicated part, right, yeah, because it's just with
because I've got some of those what was it privid
winter perfecto mundo that we had grown on accident or
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, and just saying I just prune them just to
keep them tidy. Yeah, you know, but I'm kind of like,
I won't typically do a mass prune on a isealia
to mess up blooms. But I'm not also not going
to lose any sleep if it's looking kind of wild
and I need to go.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, yeah, so I mean pruning there are guidelines but
they're not absolute. Ye Oh, it says to prune your
great myrtle in February, but it's June and I've got
this branch that cut it, get rid of it. So
but the general rule for if it's a blooming plant,
if it blooms early in the season, you prune it
(28:46):
after it blooms, because that type of plant produces its
flower buds the previous fall.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
So on the old wood, right, So if you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Prune it too early, you cut all the flowers off.
And if it's something that blooms in summertime, well that
blooms on new growth, so you prune it early in
the season. Pruning early with proper nutrition promotes new growth.
So a lot of times that increases your flowering in
the summertime.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
So that's not difficult.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And if it's something that doesn't bloom or the bloom
is insignificant, some of those you can start blooming pruning
at the end of February and you can still prune
right now.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
There's selective pruning and non select non selective pruning, So
it depends on what you're trying to achieve.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
So I mean, like, if only I could get up
on my if I had like a boom lift, would
true my creeper?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Why don't you just put a ladder in the back
of your truck?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Exactly exactly. No, that's one thing. It's like if I
if I was a younger guy, even.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Though you're not that old, that's right, you know, Yeah,
I would go out there.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Always be safe and tip it. That's right, Always be safe.
You know, pruning tools are supposed to be arp.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Don't.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Don't prune with dull equipment. That's not good for your
plant and it makes your work a lot harder. But
understand what you're trying to achieve first before you start,
and then realize, oh, I'm going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Because once you start making a cut, you don't stop right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Understand what the abilities are the plants are, and then
go to town. You know something I use all the time.
You're probably too young to know this, but so how
do I prune my cruit?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Murderer?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I was like, did you ever see the first Karate
Kid movie? And they're like, what the hell is this?
What the heck is this guy talking about? He says, uh,
he said, he gives them the little Bond's eye. He
goes what do I do? He goes close eyes, picture tree, Now,
open eyes, cut off everything, not look like tree. I
mean it's really almost that simple, and everybody's vision is different.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
So it's your yard.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Is what you wanted to look like, not what you're
worried about your neighbors think it looks like. Make it
pleasing to yourself. Okay, that's that's my rule. Make it
pleasing to you. It's yours, that's right. But yeah, having
a vision of what you wanted to do, whether it's
just flat top and square sides, okay, no, that's what
(31:24):
you want, and work towards that. You wanted something much
more sculptured, like a credit myrtle.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, well it's like my Japanese maples. Yeah, I mean,
like I look at them, I'm trying to get them
structurally airy.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So you're thinning some of the branches in between, it's
not not so much thick in the middle. So, yeah,
have a picture of what you want and then just
start clipping slowly. There's no rule that says once you
pick up the printers you have to finish in a
half an hour. You could print a few leave it
next day, come back, look at it and go oh yeah,
I could take that one out. Also take that one
out and just work on it over time. Okay, got
(32:01):
a good question from Jared. Let's go to Jared. Jared,
good morning, thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
What's up this morning?
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Yeah, how y'all doing.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And enjoy your show? Thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
What I wanted to ask you?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
It seems like, uh, I go to your Seagan store
and ALSOLD the Dental Spring store. I've been out quite
a bit of Cherokee purple tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
They I'll have trouble getting those.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It's just a early we find out you're coming to visit,
all right, and then we sell them all.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'm just I'm just going to say this. He didn't
say he goes to the Greendal Spring store. I had
a thousand of them yesterday, Jared. But I'm sure we'll
be sold out when you get there today.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
No, no, Jersey that yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Up.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
My second question, can you plan a cantalope?
Speaker 10 (32:50):
I got a few little spots that are high up
next to a watermelond. They crossed pollen eate with the bees.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
What have you are?
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
They crossed pollinate?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yes? Will that affect your fruit.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, the cross pollination affects the seed, Jared, not the fruit. Okay, wonderful, all.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Right, if you harvested.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Oh yeah, I hear all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, I planted this next to this, and now the
fruit's different. No, that's not how that works. So let's
go back to the tomatoes. Some varieties the growers don't
sell and as big a numbers at certain times of
the year, and so sometimes some varieties are a little
more available later, like talladega and Florida ninety one. Will
(33:40):
those people think of those as the ones that do
better in the heat, so the growers start those a
little later, so they're timed more for the people that
are planting the ones in the heat.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So Cherokee purple.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Is not it's a good tomato, but it's not grown
in the same numbers by most consumers doing big boy,
better boy celebrity, and so they focus more on that
early and then they start doing some of the others.
So we will have those, but it's not always as
consistent early in the season.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
It's just not as okay, because it's all in numbers.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
Let me tell you, I'm now, I come over here
from it when I was six, and I've been growing
stuff ever since then.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
And the point I went to North.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Carolina about ten to fifteen years ago and they had
these chair keep per man. They to me theyd one
of the best tomatoes to get, But I guess different.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
People, yeah and go different.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Anyway, Well, thank you very much, and y'all have a
good weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Thanks, Jared, have a great day. I will say that
that's a great tasting tomato, but it's not a heavy
harvest tomato. And our reasons the same with the crim Yeah,
the black crim and yeah, they're a.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Great taste in tomatoes, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Get as many perb bush. So don't expect a bumper
crop when you're doing something like that. But if you
want to have some variety in your garden, certainly put
some in. You'll enjoy the taste. You just won't have
the same amount of harvest. So, and it's just big
on dis You gotta have diversity. Yeah, yeah, and there's
nothing wrong with that, you know, a big tomato, you know. So,
(35:23):
And we have open phone lines at four Land nine
ninety five two six if you'd like to call in
and get a question in before the end of the show.
And uh, and if you don't, we're just going to
talk about some other things we had in mind.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
So zaying what Yeah, so you know, if you hadn't
done your pre emergent at your flowerbeds, please do so.
Pre emerging that's a pre emergent RB size okay to
weed seeds. Yeah, so like you, because I mean I
don't know about your flower bed, but I mean just
freshly mulched. I already got stuff popping up.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Mind freshly melchre's there's some of it, none but not much.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
But no, Uh, I mean there's just a lot of
stuff going on. I mean you've got everything's starting to
pop up.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Because it's the soil temps starting to get warm enough.
And obviously by means we need to put pre emerging
out in your lawn.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Pre emerging in your lawn. I would say, maybe it's
a little it's a little late. Yeah, I would have
done that like in January. Yeah, and even my flower
bed putting.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
It out early.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
But certainly there's a lot more things that continue to
sprout on that open bed. Yes, and let's focus on
the three letters.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
P R E. Pre.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You have to put it out before the stuff sprouts.
It doesn't kill anything that's already growing. You're trying to
stop it from getting established.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Everything else. I prefer pulling. But I mean you could
spot spray like it kills all product or that new
spruce product whenever we Yeah, I have to see how
it works. I haven't tested it.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It's a Laurel sulfate.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It looks like it's a heavy concentration of soap with
some other oils to get it to work.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
So, but look, get that down and let me look
at my fancy list. You'all can't see, but it's it's
a binder and everything.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, it's pretty nice. So you got your pre emergence.
It's time to start thinking about what you're gonna plant. Yeah, exactly,
you're going to fertilize those. And then do you do?
You what kind of mulch do you like to use? Uh?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
The broken bags, the broken bags of cedar mulch. Cedar
is the best.
Speaker 10 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I love that it's costly. It's costly, but it lasts
darn near forever. And I love the dark color. It's
my absolutely thing.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
It doesn't turn into dirt right like as fast as
because I used to use just regular old hardwood mulch. Yeah,
and because I like it because it breaks down into soil.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right, because that's adding beneficial organic to your soul. So
that's one of the good things about mulch, among many.
It helps shade the soul surface, so it stops some
things from sprouting, it can suffocate some things. It provides
organic matter back to the soil. It's a temperature regulator
(38:03):
for the soil. Just all kinds of benefits from using
an organic multch, not gravel or am recycling tires. Very
and do not like putting gravel, no, because you're always
having a spray to get the weeds out of pulling
the weeds out.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
So but you know, and it's still time to we
still have time to use like the winter weed cocktail
out in the lawns in your lawn. Yeah, we're getting
close to where you know, it's gonna be a little
bit starting to get.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
A little warm. However, Yeah, it's a temperature good. But
the way that flag is blowing not a good day.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yeah, I mean it's just spray ones and this is
not the time of day you would spray.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, you want to spray when the wind is absent
or minimal, very minimal.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
You want to keep your wand.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Down close to the ground, and you don't want to
overpressurize your tank either.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
And actually I'll set the droplets to depending on how
how much wind we have, yeah, to heavier droplets stream
right versus the.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Fan that's right, that's right, so and knowing where it's going.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yeah. So, but I mean if you have it on
the link the little fan to where it's a missed, oh,
it's just blowing everywhere. It's gonna I mean, it's gonna
shoot twenty feet away.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I never set my sprayer like that, never.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So it's just it's easier. And then I actually put
the dye in mind, yeah, so that I can see,
which I don't usually.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
But I actually if it's a large area, I actually
put string out in the yard so I can follow,
and then I just flip flopped the strings.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
So I never missed a spot and I never double
to a spot.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
And it takes a little effort, yeah, but especially if
you have a large area to do, it's hard to
walk a straight line and reverse when you're spraying herbside.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I know, I used to drag a five hundred foot hose.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, so that's that's very difficult, and with with just
a little bit of extra time, that string string can
really help you do a much more effective herb side control.
But even before that, if that gallon is supposed to
treat x amount of square feet, how fast do you
start off walking? Nobody knows how fast they're supposed to
(40:10):
start walk.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
It all depends on the person.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
That's right, because you and I can mix the exact
same thing.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
This works for a fertilizer spreader.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Also, if we put the same product in the same
spread and have it set at the very same setting
and you're walking at a different speed than me, we're
not putting it out equally.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
So you have to learn how you do it.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, man, I have say, like, I mean, I'm six
foot tall and long legs. I mean I have a
longer stride than other people. Yeah, you know, so it's
it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And I've got shorter legs, but I walk fast, so yeah,
so it's quite different. So but the liquid herbicides people
always like, so I just put a light coating on it, right, Well,
I just spray it heavy, right Well, I don't know
what that means to you. I will never agree to
that statement, I will always take the time to teach
(41:04):
you how to figure out how fast you're walking by
taking water and springing it over a known distance on
your driveway, which takes ten minutes for you to learn
how fast you walk, so that you're putting it out
at the proper rate, because it's always the rate that's
so important. If you're putting too much, you can cause
(41:26):
collateral damage that you don't want. These herbicides that you're
spraying on your lawn is not that the lawn is
immune to them. They're tolerant of and if you exceed
that tolerance level, you can cause damage. If you're not
spraying enough, you're not getting enough to cause damage on
what you want to damage. So it's always in the dosage.
(41:49):
And this is you know, which would have said something
about my soapbox, but this is this is something that
is it's so extremely important. You're going to spend the
money and you're going to spend the time. Don't you
want don't you want to payback for that?
Speaker 6 (42:05):
You know?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
It's just uh, you know, I can't see not wanting
wanting that, So.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Yeah, so but anyway, you know, and just get get
off your soapbox.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I'm off, Yeah, I'm off.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
So we just got a few more minutes.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, actually have less than three minutes.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
So but you know, we talked about weed control the
flower bed do we control in the lawn?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I talked about my favorite mulch, fertilization of your shrubs
yours are. It's time to prune most of your material now,
most of the spring blooming material. If it's not finished,
let it finish blooming, then prune it. Uh. You know,
there's not a whole lot that's still blooming right now
that would have bloomed in the spring.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
No, And it's just everything else is just getting ready
to start butting up in blooming.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Mulching the beds, all the beneficial things about mulch, and
then gosh, the selection of bedding plants for your spring
and summer color is phenomenal. Yeah, it's increasing day after days.
They're always adding something more to the mix. So you
could literally come in a couple times a week and
it would be different each time you walk in.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Oh yeah, No, I've got customers that come every couple
of days because they work down the street. He's there
for ten minutes just to see what's new.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I had thought there and it
just jumped right out of my head.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Don't know where I was going with that.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
But don't be overly rushed to go out and prune
winter damage unless you can tell for certain that it's dead.
If it's something that's questionable, there's no harm in leaving
it to see what will happen. With a little bit
more time, you can go all the way to the
end of April if you need to. Those people with citrus,
(43:52):
I'm pretty much at the thought that most of it
is going to be pretty heavily damaged, if not killed,
this season.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
So all right, it's just it's been a rough it
was a rough, rough.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Rough win winter, you know. Well as always Scott, it's
a pleasure doing the show with you.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, it's great to see you too.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
There's going to be a good day, you know. Uh,
you know, just today when you're out the nursery, lean
into the wind so you don't get blown over again.
Come by and see us if you have questions, and
just if you want to, you know, kill some time
and see some pretty things. Come see us at the stores.
We've got four stores in the Baton Rouge area, one
in Denim three in Baton Rouge, Seagan Lane, Greendal Springs
(44:31):
and don Lore Avenue. Everything packed with color and plants
and we would love to see you and help you
with whatever way that we can. On that Baton Rouge
get out, enjoy your day
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