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November 15, 2025 • 40 mins
We talk about Christmas decorations this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Butch and Kat from Clegg's Nursery!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Gleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting line and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine six.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, Baton rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven
fifty WBO's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is Butcher Drews.
I'm here with Kat from Clegg's Nursery.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good morning, good morning, bright.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Cheery morning. Great day to get out in your yard,
do some yard.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Work, yep, absolutely, or.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Start Christmas decorating.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
That's my plan. Yep. That includes the patio, so there
will be some some planting too.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Okay, good, good good.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I did go by Cleggs a couple times this week
have some yard projects. And notice Thatristmas trees arrived yesterday.
I don't think they're up and standing, so I wouldn't
rush out to the store to try to buy one today,
but they are starting to come in. They looked really nice,
lots of I love Christmas because of the smell that

(01:14):
was what always during Christmas with the trees and all.
I didn't like all the sap all over my hands,
but the smell was always really good. But lots of
decorations beautiful inside the store, right now, I'm sure that's
up to you, right No, okay, well never mind. Anyway,
if you want to give us a call and stop this,

(01:36):
you can give us call it.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
That's for nine nine WW.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I do have a question for you, because I am
still involved a lot with putting material into the system,
assigning UPC codes and a bunch of boring stuff. I
won't bore you with anymore. What is a lemon cypress?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh? A lemon cypress is a little cypress. We get
them around the holidays. They're like a perfect little triangle shape.
They're usually like maybe a foot to two feet tall,
and they're just this lemony color, kind of light green.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Is it kind of like the trees in Whoville?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Sure? Yes, almost exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
And it's like the color of the Grinch too. Okay,
so that's perfect.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
So you can put like little red bows on it, or.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
You can make it real cute. Yeah, put it on
your kitchen count I could, yeah, let's I don't know
what you would do with it, probably kill it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, but anyway, Yeah, I noticed that we've been getting
in several different sizes of those, so I figured it
had to be something maybe like an alternative to a
Norfolk Island pine.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yes, yeah, that's definitely you could use that for it.
Use it for that. I love the lemon cypress with
red cyclomen planted around it. So if you wanted to
do like a patio container arrangement, that would be very
pretty too.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
If you had like a wall, could you put like
the cypress in the back of the pot and the.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Cyclemen around it, and then even some like white alesso
spilling out picture that.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Almost sounds like you know what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
But Christmas cactus should be coming in soon. You said
you had some larger ones at the store right now.
But that's always something fun to do. My wife is
into different colored Christmas cactuses, so I have to always
go by once they're blooming and see if I can
find something she doesn't have.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, find something special, special color. Yes, yeah, she'll like that.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I remember when they first had the yellow ones that
was a big deal, but now they're kind of common.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
But anyway, a lot of other things I know on
the show here a lot of times we try to
hold people off and planting their fall annuals.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
But I think it's time to go ahead and plant.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yes, it's all temperatures are down where you won't have
any issues with you know, the rise Actonia with pansies,
snap dragons. I noticed a lot of the commercial plantings
are changing out right now, so that's always a good
sign when they when they're doing it.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, we can hopefully trust me, we can trust them
to know.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah, well I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
But we're into November, so we hopefully are not going
to have any more real warm days that are going
to just soil temperatures.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
So but what what are they? What are we planting
right now? As far as betting plants.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, now it's like you said, we don't have to
worry about the pansies, so go on and throw the
pansies in Dianthus snap dragons.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I'm going to I'm are you a Disney planter? Are
you a mixed planter?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I it all? I am, Okay, So I'm very reopinionated
about this. I think that it depends on the setting
and say the architecture of the house or the building
that you're planting around. You know, some things need to
be Disney and some things need to have a woodland
field or a natural feel or a cottage garden field.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
You know, I actually have a question, what does that mean?
A Disney plant?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I knew that was going to come up to me.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
What a Disney planning is a mass planting, typically obviously
usually of one variety, but a lot of times also
one color.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
And I have always been.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
When I did some did actually work, when I did
some landscaping, I was always a Disney planner in that
I always liked masses of a single variety and usually
a single color. And the one thing that I didn't
do was pansy. I love mixed pansies. I don't know why,

(06:03):
just the color variation or whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
For the pansies.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Always I like them mix whereas you know, typically with
other type material, petunia, things like that, I would tend
to go with a single color. But I just especially
they used to be called majestic giant.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
What are they now?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, there's still Majestic giants, Colossal, there's Colossus, there's mammoth.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
There are so many, but I just love the coloration,
the faces, the dark centers. Even some of your violas
that don't have the faces their single color, they just
the colors blend so well that I love the mixed planning.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, and they have some beautiful mixes too, they waterfall mix.
Oh like blues and purples and whites and it's gorgeous. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Do you like snap dragons behind pansies?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I do like snap dragons, but I also I like
dianthus for height a little more than snaps. And I
have reasons, but you're not going to share them with
It's my secret. I feel like the snapdragons they go

(07:13):
pretty dormant in the dead of winter.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
What do you say, Oh, no, they do. I mean
snap dragons. In fact, that's why you're starting to see
the variety of souls to some of those things, because
they are day length dependent to bloom. Petunias can be
the same way, where once we get to that January
or early February where our days are the shortest, they
can go out of bloom. So where you're right, the

(07:36):
dianthus tend to won't not do that. The other thing
was snapdragons. And actually, because I'm married, it's a good
thing because every time I get frustrated with my wife,
which is normally always, I can go out and snap
the heads off the snapdragons.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, that's fun. That helps get some of that anger out. Huh.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I used to hang out at the snapdragon table in
the fall when I worked at Legs and puch those
heads off.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
You can do that with Dianthus too.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You need to actually and if it was one of
the things many years ago, I did a very nice
bed with the red Dianthus and I found if I
would con not continually, but fairly often go through in deadhead,
I actually was able to keep that bed for about
two years.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh really yeah, wow, so they perennialized for you.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, sort of.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
After about two years, they definitely started to fade out,
But gotcha. And that's one of the things with annuals
that a lot of people don't understand is an annual
is flowering quickly, trying to go to seed, and once
it goes to seed, it's done its job, so it's
going to die. So if you continue to pinch the
blooms off as they start to fade, the annual is

(08:47):
going to keep going for you first period of time,
trying to reproduce itself. So that's a good rule of
thumb with any of our annuals here. If you will
pinch the blooms as they start to fade, they will
tend to ask much longer. Now, with pansies, once it
gets hot, there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, with marigolds on some of the summer annuals. Once
once it freezes, they're gone. Nothing you can do about that.
But I'm pinching the blooms off tends to help.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, and it'll keep them blooming more.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
And you know what else you need to do to
keep them bluving fertilized?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I got it. Do you.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Are you a proponent of liquid feeds or granular.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm a proponent of both. I think it's beneficial to
use both.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
You mix the granules in when you're planting, and then
come back with the liquid feed.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yes, I'll come back with the liquid feed. And usually
the liquid feed. It's it's absorbed so quickly and it
leaches through the soil so quickly that you do it
on almost a weekly basis if you want to. I mean,
of course, read the directions on your fertilizer. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Remember I'm a guy.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I know, I know, get your wife to read the
Oh okay, but yeah, the liquid fertilizer is great for
a boost, like an injection of fertilizer for the plants,
Whereas it's.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Kind of like your five hour energy.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Drinks exactly we're you know, granular fertilizer could be like
Ruth Chris's.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh, should I be eating fertilizer?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
No, I don't think it's okay, but no.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And that's what I always tell people is especially with
annuals because they're growing constantly. You know, annuals are the
teenage boys of the plant world, so they want to
eat all the time.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
So you know, you want to feed them.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And you know, your granular fertilizers, especially like your bedding
plant foods and all, tend to be a little bit
higher in the middle number, and which is important obviously
for blooming. But the other thing with the phosphorus is,
and you brought up the incorporating the fertilizer, the granular
fertilizers in the salt, phosphorus doesn't move in the soil.

(11:05):
It kind of locks up to whatever soil particle it's
next to. So if you're just surface applying it, you're
not getting it to the root system, so you want
to incorporate that, and then your liquid fertilizers tend to
be higher in the first number. So the nitrogen, like
you said, is absorbed through the roots, can be absorbed
through the fulage foliage.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh my gosh, Okay, that was your fancy word.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Right, that was my fancy word for the day, for
the day. That's it. I'm done.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
You're at Seagan right, Yes, cool, the best store, the
coolest store, right. Exactly four locations of Klegg's Nursery in
the Greater Batonyge area. We have the Segen Lane location,
which is pretty close to the corner of Segen in Airline,
Greenwolf Springs Store, which is basically where Sherwood Forest hits
Greenwell Springs Road. We have the Denim Springs store, which

(11:56):
is on Range Road real near Magnolia Bridge Road, and
then the store on South Domore in mid City. The original,
well not the actual original store, but the second to original.
Why are you looking at me like I'm.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm remembering a night at Magnolia Bridge Road that.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
We don't want to hear about it. There's young people listening.
That's what the lawn and garden show after Dark edition.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh okay, question.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
We always start getting this time of year, and I'm
going to ask the expert. Oh who's not here? So
I asked cats Points Settus. How do you get them
to rebloom or recoloration because it's not actually a bloom, right.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's the leaves. Yeah, well, I you tell me, because
I'm not sure that you can without blacking out a
room and doing light treatment.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
No, no, no, it's very easy.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, Okay, when Christmas is over year and the point
set of starts to fade, and you take it and
there's a container in your.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Garage, Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's about four foot tall, two foot square. You place
the plant gently in that.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Then next Thanksgiving you go back to Clegs and you
buy another one that's blooming.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
A brand new one. Yeah, and you just put it
where that one was last year.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh huh, that's what That's how I get them to readcolor.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
And the thing that's in your garage is about maybe
greenish maybe bluish color, yeah, exactly, black flappable lid on
time right exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, well that sounds about right.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Can you put any other items in there?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yes, of course it could be really trashy if you'd
like it to be. Sometimes I worry about.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Myself, but no point set is and you very very
well done. Actually it's very difficult, and I love the
old saying, oh you just stick it in the closet.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Well, if you stick it in the closet.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's dead right, you know, it's not going to be happy.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So, you know, do you really want to go through
this whole effort of you know, making sure it's in
a room dark, you know, with the lights off, and
the lights have to be turned off at six fifteen
and you need to turn them back on at seven
eighteen the next morning. You know, it's just a lot
of work for something that very easily can be picked
up at the nursery.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Point set is aren't at the store yet, are they? Mate?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I don't want to say, because I wasn't there yesterday.
Now we set up the tables inside the store on Thursday,
so we're prepared for them. I know they're coming.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
YEA and Color Division which is out at Green Springs Road.
They have their points set of open house actually coming
up fairly soon, which I should know when it is
so I can promote it. Better than this.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
But anyway, go buy it or call any of the
stores and they can give you the details of exactly
what day the points at open houses. But that is
really something that you need to see because they grow
like ten thousand points setus. Some of them are experimental
varieties that they're testing for different growers, so sometimes you
can see some really unique blooms. They are for sale.

(15:15):
I keep using the word blooms. They're not blooms, they're
colored bracts. But it's really neat to see that. So
if you get a chance, I want to say, it's
two weekends from now. But maybe somebody's listening and can
give us heads up real quick on what it is.
Send a text please, but no. Actually, the interesting thing

(15:35):
about point set is is that the bloom looks like
the little bird mouse open up in the middle of
the bracs.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
It does.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It looks like baby birds with their mouse open wanting
to be fed. When you start to see those blooms,
you actually want to pinch those out because that will
prolong the life of your point setup.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Well, we're all thinking about that image. Your Kle's nurse
Free points at your open house is Saturday, November twenty ninth,
from nine am to two pm. Well, thank you, thank you,
and pictures are you can take pictures and I believe
Santa Claus will be there.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Santa will be there.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
I remember not but Zain saying that last week.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Okay, saying so much better than we are.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
It's really on top of things.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
So what you say he wrote things down before he
came into it, he does that.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, Oh that's a good idea. You know what. That
tip is free about as good as the advice we
is we give.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But no, the other thing people have issues with their
points set is is watering them.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
M M. Two things.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
As far as I'm concerned, most of the time, when
you buy points at it, it's going to have some
foil wrapped around it.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Well, if you take foil and form it into why
do I use my hands on the radio? I don't
have a clue.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Somebody's watching somebody's.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
But you know, foil and you make it into like
a cup shape that goes over that and you pour
water in.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
What happens to the water.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I guess it just sits there, right, and they're not
going to drain out or anything.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
So then the roots like get are sitting and standing
water and then they get like all these funguses and start.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
To rot, root rot.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
And then the plant dies.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, so maybe twenty minutes after you water it, you
take the foil off, dump it out.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah. Or if it's small enough, I love to put
uh my my little indoor plants and small things in
the sink. Take it out of the foil wrap, take
it out of a pretty pot, set it in the sink,
water it good, let it drain, then stick it back
and it's pretty thing.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
What if you had like a whole bunch of plants,
could you do their bathtub?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
And I'm serious, My mom used to do that actually,
and then you have to clean your bathtub so it
keeps you on schedule with never mind, we just admitted.
I admitted that I clean my bathtub. Is what I

(18:05):
just admitted.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
You made it sound like without this, I'm a schedule.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I'm a very busy woman. I've got a lot going on.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
That's four nine nine w JBO please call.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
I want to get more cleaning tips for Do you
have like any ideas when to use bleach when you
use the.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Scrubbing bubbles, always use bleach.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And now the WJBO cleaning show will but no points
set as can be very difficult, you know. It's it's
a fun plant to have. Obviously it is the Christmas plant.
But the other thing we've been talking about was we
talked about the lemon cypress, which is kind of a
new thing as far as I know. We've been having

(18:51):
a lot of difficult to get a lot of calls
at the store for the topiary or pyramid Rosemary's, and
the lemon cypress would be a good alternative to that.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I would think, yes, definitely. It'll give you that that
shape and that structure I mean, and it'll hold up
like the rosemary does.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I'm sorry, I'm struggling with how to ask this question.
What is the cold sensitivity on those?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Now, that's a good question, because that's a good question.
That's such a good question because I'm not sure. Oh okay,
but I don't My understanding is that it's not totally
cold tardy.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Right, That's what I was thinking too, Like you're.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Not going to go planted in your yard, right.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
And I'm air quotes. It's it's a houseplant.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
It's a houseplant, but it also will do well outside
so long as it doesn't freeze you don't let it, yeah,
be exposed to a freeze.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
You know, I'm going to take a right turn right here.
I don't like the term houseplant.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay, let's dissect that.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, because house plants really don't want to be inside
the house.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
You are right about that.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
They want to be outside.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
But they can't be outside in the winter here because
they don't like it cold either, So that's why they
migrated indoors. But you know, you take a beautiful ficus
tree and you put it in that dark den with
the shades pulled all the time, it's.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Going to diphilate.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah. Look, that's enough with the with the big words. Okay,
I can't follow.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, they do. They they want to be outside. So
here's the cool thing about house plants in Louisiana is
that our summers are somewhat tropical, right, I mean, we're
humid and we're hot.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
We're semi tropical.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
So so bringing your houseplants out into a covered area
because they don't want direct sun is actually really beneficial
for them. And they, you know, comes spring, when we're
not worried about freezes anymore, you can bring that fight
us back outside, have it on your patio for a
little while, and it's going to rejuvenate and it's going

(21:09):
to you know.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
So maybe we like we should, you know, in the morning,
take our fighters outside and then in the evening bring
it back in.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
If you love it, yeah, if you love it that much. No, No,
I'm talking about seasonally. Oh, seasonally, Yeah, for the summertime.
You might bring some of your house plants out to
the patio and let them stay out there, right for
the summer.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
The other thing about and where I was going with that,
and I really confused you, which is surprising because I
confused everybody. But plants don't enjoy being moved around a lot.
So if you take a like you, you said it perfectly.
You know, once the threat of cold is gone, move
your plants out to the patiom and leave them out
there till October whenever the threat of cold comes, and

(21:55):
then you move it back in because especially like the fighters, Benjamin,
and you move that sucker.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's gonna drop every leave. Yeah, you'll be sweeping it
up for weeks.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Anyway, we do have a collar. They called for two six,
that's four nine nine w JBO.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Let's go to Graham.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Good morning, Graham, what can we do for you today?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I have decided to be a lazy gardener this winter, my.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Favorite type of gardener.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
So which is going on?

Speaker 6 (22:25):
What should I put in my raised bed that will
just kick it green or at least not hideous, and
add some nitrogen and I can just ignore it.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
All winter and pretend it's not there.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
We have Crimson clover would be your best bet for that.
It's a lagoon. Well, it's a nitrogen fixer.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Uh, prefer not let it go to seed at the
end of the year, but if you want to, it
does produce a very pretty red clover flower. But yeah,
crimson clover is gonna be your winter cover crop.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
And in case I.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Decided to get lazy this summer too, when it's time,
can I just like broadcast zenias or something and then
ignore it this summer.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
When it's taught to Definitely? Yeah, Xenias are a very
easy thing to come up from seed. Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
The only issue we have here is areas like that
tend to sometimes get weedy, so you would want to
kind of keep an eye out for any unwanted things
coming up in there. Seniors are excellent, beautiful, you can
cut them, bring them in the house. Uh, if you're
looking for a cover crop for this, an alternate cover
crop for the summer field piece would be your nitrogen fixtures.

(23:39):
But no, I love the idea. We go to North
Carolina quite a bit, my wife and I, and they
do zenias as wildflowers along the interstates up there, and
they can be some beauty that it's very very pretty.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
So yeah, I love the xenia idea.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Just if you do the zen even though you have
had a winter cover crop which has helped fix some nitrogen,
you may want to put a little bit of fertilizer
in there to help them out, but other than that
they should do just fine for you.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Thank you guys so much. I really ag And when
I looked into the house plant thing, I had a
friend come down from Michigan a few years ago. You
went to my housebook guards and said, oh my god, yes, houseplants.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
In the yard.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yes, yes, yes, that's very true.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
And appreciate the phone call that does open up phone
lines right now four nine nine nine five two six
that's four nine nine and WJBA that's I'm sorry. I'm
gonna tell personal story here like I've never done that
before while I've been on the radio. But my wife
and I we went to the Orange Bowl in Miami
when LSU was playing there one year, and we're driving along.

(24:46):
We're getting into Miami and we're looking out off of
the interstate over the town and we kept looking, going
what are those trees? They look very familiar.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
To us, and kept driving and we finally got off
the interstate.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
They were Norfolk Island. Yeah, forty fifty sixty foot tall.
Then we started noticing the hedges were sheffal eiras hibiscus hedges.
So all of our house plants air quotes that nobody
saw were actually, like she said, planted out in the air.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, there are the landscape shrubs. I bet. Yeah, it's
fun to see that, you know, out out in nature.
We're in the landscape and one of the.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
And you know this because you're the smartest person I know.
But I always wondered about giant pothos. Okay, big leaf pothos. Yeah,
and I didn't realize that giant pothos is nothing but
regular pothos that's growing up and not hanging down.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah. Wow, and they get huge, they do. They grow
up on like tree trunks and stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
They kind of cling as they grow up the trees
and they get these big, old, big o' leafs. But anyway,
getting away from houseplants and Christmas, we talked a little
bit about bating plants, which right now, if you do
have a tendency to want to change out your annuals
now is a great time to do it.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
That way. They're you know, settled in.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You've got a couple of weeks before Thanksgiving yet, so
they've got get over that transplant shock thing. But the
other thing that people don't realize, and Graham had a
great idea with her raised bed or raised garden, you
can still plant your garden.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, the vegetables.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Vegetables, I mean the.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Varietal, the number of varieties of each one has probably
reduced some at this point.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
But you know, I was at Cleggs the other day.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I had I saw broccoli, cabbage, I saw most of
the bedding plants, Most of the vegetable plants were still available.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
There are lots of lettuces, you're greens. Yeah, and strawberries too.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
We have strawberries and it won't be too long we
should be getting the onion.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Plants in m I think that's December, usually.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Mid November, early December.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yes, so that's a that's an interesting little crop. And
one of the things I really try to get younger parents,
you know, with younger kids, I should say not younger parents,
but people with younger kids, you know that are getting
curious about it. Create a little garden area, you know,
if you want to go, grab a couple two by fours,

(27:19):
put them together, put some soil in there, whatever, you know,
get a little deep depth to it, and plant carrots.
Oh yeah, I mean there's nothing. Johnny is put together
what he calls his rainbow mix, and it's on it's
on the sea wall, which is typically the back wall
of all four stores except for Denim. I think it's
the sidewall, but which doesn't really matter, but the rainbow

(27:42):
mix because the kids love it when they start to grow,
because you don't know what color the carrot's going to be.
It's kind of like an Easter egg hunt in the dirt.
So anyway, carrots can be a lot of fun for kids.
And you'll be surprised if kids plant vegetables, they actually
tend to eat them them. Yeah, you know, they see it,
watch them grow and they go out and harvest and

(28:04):
they go, oh wow, this carrot's pretty good or oh wow,
you know broccoli and all that bad after all. But
as with the annual bedding plants, we talked about vegetable gardening,
you need to maintain a good fertilization and your point
earlier with the betting plants, you know, work a granular fertilizer,
the gardener special something like that. And especially with fall vegetables,

(28:28):
I think, even more so than your summer vegetables, continueu fertilization.
We recommend calcium nitrate of clegs. You want to do
that every two to three weeks, the tablespoon per plant,
because most think of what what is a cabbage? It's
all leaves, you know. So, and you were talking about
like your spinnach, your kale, the dinosaur kale. You're producing

(28:51):
foliage and what the plant needs to produce foliage is
one of the main components is nitrogen. So we want
to continue to add that fertilizer to your vegetable gardens.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Okay, that's good to know. I know. I mean you
want to use calcium nitrate with tomatoes and peppers? Right again,
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I apologize, I interrupted you there, But tomato plants, you're
unless it's a determinate variety, you're constantly wanting to get
growth because tomatoes bloom off a new growth, so you
want that nitrogen there. But especially like I said on
you know, you look at a broccoli plant. How much
foliage is there, you know, and that's what that's what
the nitrogen is needed for. So we really need to

(29:33):
do that top dressing, supplemental dressing, whatever you want to
call it with your fall vegetables. So when you're at
the nursery, when you're picking up your vegetable plants, Clegg's
has a great display of the Gardener Special right next
to the calcium nitrates. It's not an add on sale
from the standpoint of, oh, you really don't need it,
but it's a good idea. It is something this time

(29:55):
of year you do want to get both those fertilizers
because they actually do different things. Yeah, you know the
Gardener Special as your incorporation because as we talked about
a little bit earlier in the show, but people only
listen for about seven minutes, the phosphors and potassium don't mix,
don't mix in, don't move in the soil. So you

(30:15):
want those where the roots can get it, So you
want to incorporate it where the nitrogen, as you said,
has a tendency to leach through the soil. And I've
always used this as an example. Think about the nitrogen
molecule as like a little cowboy and he's hiding behind
a dirt particle, and then as the water comes leeching down,

(30:38):
he jumps out from behind the dirt particle and goes jah,
jumps on the water molecule and just follows it right
on down.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Okay, I never would have thought. If you think of
it like that, that's a.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Good visualization for you. My wife says.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
That I have too much mind on my hands. But
you know there's no Thanksgiving music. Oh okay, well yeah
there really isn't. Yeah, we go straight from into Christmas.
You know, we just skip over the turkey.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah. Well no, we don't skip over the turkey. We
eat the turkey. Yeah, I mean we still enjoy the meal,
but there's no real do you miss.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
It decorates you decorate for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
I skip it, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I eat the food though.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
You go to the box stores or whatever, and it
goes from like Halloween decorations all over the place till
all of a sudden, the next day there's Christmas.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
And yeah, well that's whoever set up these holidays. It's
their faults because they put them too close to each other.
I mean, you can't change your whole house's decorations three
times in three months. That's too much spaced out. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Guess you'd have to find songs that have maybe like
a fall field.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Oh all the least, there is a very rare Elton
John song that says who would want to be a
turkey for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Or something like that? But yeah, look it up. There
is an Elton John that one I've never heard. So
give me a second here, you don't want to.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Anyway. Fort nine two six.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
We have a few more minutes in the show if
you want to give us a call with questions, comments,
or criticisms, probably mostly criticisms. But so what else is
new and exciting at Clegg's Nursery.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I'm excited about the Christmas trees. I know that's a name.
We already talked about, the Christmas Tree.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
That's why we can we can double do well.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's a it's just such a big transition for the nursery,
so it's yeah, it's kind of a big deal for us.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I know a lot of people go, well, it's so early,
you know, why am I getting a Christmas tree this early?

Speaker 4 (33:00):
They're fresh right now.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Most of the trees have only been cut for a
few days by the time they get to the nursery.
So if you come in right now, you're going to
get the freshest possible tree. And you can also get
that in water right away. It doesn't have to come
in the house right away. You can leave it outside
in a bucket of water for a week or two,
and that way it can absorb that moisture and stay
fresher longer. So early purchase is not necessarily bad. Plus,

(33:27):
you know, the trees are more more costly than they
used to be, and you can get a longer period
of time out of them, especially some like the noble
fur and the frasier fur that clegs carry. Those trees
both are very good about holding moisture in them, and
both of them, for the most part, are coming in.

(33:48):
I always can tell what type of Christmas it's going
to be when I pick up the first tree off
of the truck and it weighs like twenty thousand pounds,
which means it's full of moisture and they could pick
up in their lightweight Like this is.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Kind of dry inside.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
This is going to be a bad Christmas. And the
other thing that people get confused about, I'm gonna use
the word confused is conifers are evergreen, but they're constantly
changing their leaves out. What it is is they get
new leaves before they drop their old needles.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Let's go with needles, not leaves.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
But those needles are caught as they cast them off naturally,
are usually caught inside the tree, you know, because they're
thick and off. So when you go up to a
tree and you shake the branch and you see a
few needles fall out, oh my goodness, this tree is
dried out. No, those are the needles that have probably
been cast off by the tree.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Already, right and just been hanging on, just.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Been kind of sitting there, yeah, fucking there.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
But always when you're testing a tree for quality, you
always want to check the top of the tree because
that's what's going to dry out first.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Okay, so what are you doing? Are you like flex
in the top see if it'll the needle.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Take a needle between your thumb and what's at your
forefinger and bend it. If you can almost bend it
all the way over before it breaks, that's a very
fresh tree.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Let's go to a collar. Let's go to Patrick Patrick.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Good morning, Welcome to news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's
Lina Garden Show.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
What can we do for you? I've got a.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Question about paper white bulbs. When the best time to
plant them?

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Right now? Yeah? You got it now?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, you got about another hour and a half. No,
fall is the time to plant that. It's actually a
paper white as a type of narcissus, and now is
the time to be planting those. What's nice about the
daffodil narcissus is you don't have to do the chilling
that you do with tulips and hyacinths, so you can
just go pick them up at Clegg's.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Nursery and put them in the ground the same day.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
But yeah, beautiful little flowers, very nice fragrance, very nice
fragrance to them. A lot of people will use them
as Christmas because you can force the bulb to bloom
a little bit early and have them for Christmas. But yeah,
go ahead and grab them and get them in the ground.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Patrick.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Do they propagate Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Actually it's they propagate quite well in the yard. I
picked up some leftover paper white several years ago and
put them around a tree, and they have actually started
to multiply very well in that area. So one of
the few bulbs that will actually perennialize here and actually
propagate itself.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Okay, what about a John quinn.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
John quill is another term for daffodil. There are certain
varieties that do populate here. Fortune is one, Carlton is one.
Mount Hood does fairly well as far as reproducing. There
are other varieties that are not quite as good. King Alfred,
an older variety, does not propagate very well here. But yeah,

(36:56):
most of the ones. There's a few, I think, Rip
van Winkle, a few interesting ones at the store that
don't multiply, But most of the varieties that Cleggs do
multiply here in this area.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Okay, thank you very much, all right, thank you for
the phone call. That was very good.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You know, something we haven't talked about is ball bulbs. Yeah,
and daffodils. Like I said, certain varieties do propagate quite
well here. Paper Whites just do extremely well here for
some reasons.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
And they're so pretty planted, you know, under a tree.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
So something that went out of it used to be
very very popular was ball playing.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
That's nationwide.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
But something that's kind of I think almost on the
rebound a little bit. Oh, I'm sorry, I just jumped completely. Amarillis.
We had a little issue getting the single Amarillis in
at the stores. They have finally arrived still have a
fairly decent selection of the nice Ammarillis bulbs.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
I think that's an excellent Christmas gift.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
It is. Yeah, it's a great Christmas.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
You can give the ball, you can go ahead and
plant the bulb in the pot it started growing for them.
I've got several different varieties that I have actually planted
out in the yard and they do multiply here.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Actually kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
We have a couple in our yard that Shirley's grandmother
actually planted the seeds.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Wow from seeds.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Well, I've heard that a lot though, that people have
Amaryllis that were their parents or their grandparents, and so
it's almost like a Christmas cactus gets passed down.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
By morning. Oh no, he left again. But no, And
the neat.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Thing is if you actually can get you know, get
different colored amarillas started in your yard and allow them
to cross pollinate and actually wait for the seeds to mature,
you can get some nice little crosses. So it's it's
very interesting plant to have in your yard. Again, the
highest sense the tulips we talked to Patrick about, they're

(39:06):
not going to repeat. Here there's you know, it's their
beautiful plant high since you can force in a pot
tulips a nice little mass planting in the yard, beautiful
little spring color, you know, pop of color for you,
but not something that you're going to be able to continually.
You know, they're not going to repeat year after year

(39:27):
like you can with some daffodils and the amarillis. Of course,
definitely definitely repeat. The other bulb that I really like
and it's not the time for it's so don't run
to the stores looking for him is Gladiola's. Yeah, that
is a great cut flower, just a beautiful plant. We
have one that's been with us for it was at

(39:49):
the house we bought thirty ish years ago and it's
still every year that's red Gladiola comes up in our garden.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, so those come in early spring, right.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
That'd be in late probably late January.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Okay, and then when do they bloom.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Typically late March or early April.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Kat, It's always interesting having you here, and I appreciate
that hour seems to go very quickly. I enjoy conversing
with you. But we are Clegg's Nursery. We are the
independent garden center in Baton Ridge. We have four locations
in the greater Baton Ridge area to serve you.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
One's very close to you. Head out to the stores.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Christmas decorations, Christmas trees, points that it should be arriving shortly.
Plenty of betting plans, plenty of vegetable plants.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
We are Cleg's Nursery.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
You've been listening to news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's
Lawn and Garden Show. We will see you next Saturday morning.
Have a great weekend and go Tigers.
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