June 21, 2025 • 42 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, it's Zane and Braden from Clegg's Nursery talking about fighting weeds, figs and berries, fruit trees and of course, the plant of the week! This week's it's buddliea!
Plus caller questions on eucalyptus, citrus trees, vines, planting vegetables and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
are questions about landscaping called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WJBO Lawn and
Garden Show. My name is Zane Mercer, joined here with
Braden Bonnada. Good morning. We're with Clegg's Nursery. At least
you are. I'm off today. Now we're here to talk
about lawn, garden, plants, the humidity maybe you know so, Uh,
(00:48):
it is actually a wonderful day up today so far. Anyway. Yeah,
it'll probably be brutal by a weapon, but it's gonna
get high. Yeah, but it was real nice this morning.
I got to go plant a ginger I had and
then uh, you know, pull some weeds that kind of stuff. Look,
I'm busy. I'm a busy guy in the morning.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't want to hear it. I have to leave
and go to work after this. Hey, look, I had
to make a deal with the devil, all right. I
had I had to work an extra day and work
at a different store. So, uh, but you know, we're
here to talk about lawn garden and if you had
any questions, calls, concerns, please call. Last time, no one,
(01:28):
no one called except for one customer, so she got
and she got the award.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, you know. Uh, but you can reach us at
four nine to nine w JBO or if you didn't
know what the you know, the letters translated to the
numbers is so and we also have a podcast you
can tune into on the iHeartRadio station website. It's pretty cool.
(01:52):
I've been trying to get my mom to kind of
play Reruins and they do their little farmer's market thing.
Wait I have but farm Yeah, well they they start
at like they do, not from nine to eleven. M
all right, well we're done by nine. Yeah, so it's like,
I mean, you can't even tune in. So, but we
(02:13):
got a lot of stuff to talk about today other
than the heat. No, there's a lot of things going
on in the nursery. We've been doing a lot of
clean up, fertilizing, trimming, pulling, a lot of weed pulling.
Well as especially with all this rainfall, we've been getting,
which I'm extremely grateful for because it was getting a
(02:36):
little getting a little dry in my yard.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But it does seem to make the weeds pop up
a lot faster.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, I mean, it just makes it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It makes anything, but yeah, you know, I mean, but
it's the weeds that really catch your eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yes, exactly. Lightly, Oh no, I mean I've got dove
weed exploding. I just took care of all my kalinga
finally I got around to it. But it just you know,
you take care one thing, then you see something else, right,
it's kind of a deal. So, but I wanted to
kind of quickly talk about fruit trees real fast before
(03:10):
we take We've already got a first collar on the phone,
but so still have a pretty decent selection of fruit
trees between the locations. But your blackberries, your figs, your blueberries,
that's a real easy crop. And you can even as
long as you just keep it well watered right now
(03:31):
with how hot it's getting, right, you can even you
can plant right now, especially it's going to be water
yeah exactly, Because I mean you put a three gallon
pot in the ground right now, you got what is
that three gallons ten inches wide? So you got ten
inches of root ball that can absorb water right versus
like something you planted last year. It's probably going to
(03:54):
be I don't know, twenty inches twenty four inches wide,
depending on how much root development happens. So but you
know we've got that going on. And then the like
your figs are just easy just in general, that's something
you just put in a corner, just make.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Sure it's watered. I find the same to be true
with blackberries. We have some blackberries in the yard that
we would never do anything with, and you can still
bloom and produce BlackBerry.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And I love the thornless because it's like, you know,
they grow normally as like this, git big.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I say, sorry, I'm meant blueberries, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But you're blackberries. For instance, all the thornless varieties that
are out really, I mean, they almost out compete the
old pen the old thorned varieties as far as fruit production.
And you can let them grow just kind of like
a little mound in a corner and you know, go
(04:50):
in there and pick the pick the berries. You know,
it's not so necessary to put them up on kind
of like a trellis or like my dad uses cattle panel. Uh,
and running puts the runners through it. It's like that's
not as necessary at least nowadays. So but let's go
in and jump to Steve. Let's see Steve, how's it
(05:12):
going today? How can we help you?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I have striped grass, both roches of small narrow.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And the wide yards and the turning green. I'm losing
my stripe? Is there some nutrient?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I can read it? Well, I'm sorry if I didn't
catch the first part. What is it that's striped?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Striped grasses losing the stripe? It's going green?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, So is that one of the like the Aztec grass,
like one of the groundcover ornamental grasses, striping grass? All right? Well,
it sounds like it may be reverting, all right. So
typically typically of variegated ornamental grass, all right, that's the stripe,
(06:01):
all right, that's grown from a nine variegated plant, all right.
And so sometimes you'll have them revert, all right, whether
they whether they went through some kind of stress, all right,
or I mean it could be a genetic even so,
there's not gonna be really anything to turn them back
(06:23):
to striped, all right. It sounds like they're reverting.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Okay, Well, I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It, Yes, sir, that was a good question. Uh So,
anyway back to fruit trees. We're talking about fruit trees, right, so,
uh you know, we've also got a great selection a citrus,
so we can go ahead and talk on that real quick.
This year has been pretty nice. We've actually been able
to get some larger citrus this year that have been
(06:54):
real happy with, like some seven gallon and I guess
you call it a ten gallon. We usually get them
in sizes like that. They were very nice, No, like
they're I mean how tall would you say? Those sevens
and tens were six foot someone right around with the
pot and yeah, versus you usually you see a citrus
(07:16):
tree it's like maybe three foot, yeah, you know, in
the caliber of the trunk, which is that's what I
really look for with mas citrus trees. I mean, it's
a good sizable size. It's like especially those ten gallon
those were like I don't know, not an inch, but
like three quarters something like that. So it's a pretty
(07:36):
pretty established tree versus what I would look at is
like a whip or a juvenile tree. Right. So, well,
we got that going on. What else is going on
in the bedding house nowadays? Right now.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean, uh, it's mainly just color. Yeah, things like pinas,
think uh Gelonia, all your hot summer annuals.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But we do still have plenty of color. Yeah, I've
been excited to see that y'all have gotten the passion
vine finally.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh yeah, we did get some of the one gallon
passion vines. And you know another thing that I've noticed
is been selling really well and a lot of people
come in looking for is that still the bogan villa
hanging basket. That's the that's the number one sellar. Yeah,
And I'll tell you what. Our color division does an
(08:31):
amazing job growing those.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's a weird I don't know, I I shouldn't say
weird plant, but it's an interesting plant because there's dwarf versions. Yeah,
and then there's more of an upright and it's weird
when you if you see it like to like go
down to Florida. You'll see some that are like ten
foot tall, twelve foot tall taller sometimes and it's fine, yeah,
(08:57):
but it.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Doesn't really look like fine No a lot of times,
especially if they're used in a landscape where they have
more of a tropical climate, they're kind of more shaped
like a bush or some people even use them as hedges.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, yeah, no, My sister in law's neighbor actually has
it's like Arica palms on one side and then like
twelve foot tall boken Villa bushes on the other side.
So it's like we're not you know, we're not gonna
jump the fence on that side, right, but it's kind
of you know here, and they're like, i'll tell you
(09:32):
there's a guy off of Sheerwood, Okay that it's clearly
really into boken Villa. He's got like twenty big I
know the house you're talking the cool it's the coolest
little yard because he like he keeps them in the
back and then during summer or spring. In summer he
moves them all to the front.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, when I passed by that house a couple of
weeks ago, they were all over the front, yep. And
then you drive past and you can kind of see
the driveway going to the back and they're all back
then and it's just full color.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And I always thought it was kind of interesting the
actual color on the broken video, like the pink, the white,
the blue, all those that is just a leaf.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's not a flat it's not even the flower,
you know, It's just it's a colored leaf that pops
up right behind don't they call that, I'm modified leaves, modified? Yeah,
but it you know, it pops up right behind the blue,
so it's like you don't really see it if it's
not going into bloom, right, So it's I mean, it's
just a really cool shrub.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
The only thing I don't like is the thorns. But
you know, I mean, we can't have it. We can't
have it all, So I can't have it all. Well,
it looks like we got another collar and then we'll
have to take a commercial break, so let's go and
jump to Charles. Charles, good morning. How can we help you?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Hey, good morning. A question regarding Maringa trees, like the
nutritional benefits of trying to grow one, but I'm not
sure about if it's feasible to do here put it
in the ground, or even if you guys sell them.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, we don't really carry them too often. Uh, I've
seen it like years ago. I think we had gotten
a handful in from somebody. I just remember seeing them
probably like five six years ago. But the typically you'd
want to keep that in a pot. It won't be
able to survive or winter, Like I know, our winters
(11:29):
are predominantly pretty mild. But then we just have these
sharp drops and and that's what we'll probably get it.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
So that a large pot.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, So a large pot, something that you can move around,
even if it was on like rollers, that way you
could protect it in the winter if need be.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Gotcha, Yeah, uh and uh, anything about care.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And as far as far as care, it's gonna be
more sun. You want, you want to put it in
more sun, like a well range pot, all right. And
then general purpose fertilizer. Especially since it's gonna be in
a pot, you'll you'll need to add fertilizer regularly.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Right, and in the ground it won't make a cold winter,
right probably not kind of like that kind of like
a mayer lemonry.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It just really it just depends how sharp a drop
we have. That's gonna be kind of the thing, because
that's gonna be that's more of a tropical gotcha, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Last last thing too is eucalyptus. Yeah, any tips on eucalyptus.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So more sun, more sun, the better, all right. I
typically recommend they go in a pot, granted, Yeah, granted
I have seen I've seen one in the ground, and
that sucker was probably twenty foot tall. It's like right
off the lakes, the Lsu lakes, and so I don't
(12:57):
know how that one got that big or so our winners.
But typically we're gonna want to grow that in a
container as well.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, we have one at home and we bring it
in and protect it when it is cold.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, and I mean it's cold. They're cold hearty to
a point, like to like the thirties and stuff. But
you're gonna start to take some burn when it when
we again, when we have those sharp drops got you
all right? All right, thank you much, Good morning, Lee.
How can we help you?
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Hey, my daughter's young satsuma died. I want to plan
another one. Just looking for some advice when, Yeah, where
to get one?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, So I would go ahead and uh, we carry
them at all over our locations, several different varieties. So
of course I'm gonna recommend you shot with this. But
I would go ahead and get one now, but I
wouldn't necessarily plant it in the ground. I'd recommend to
put it in like a ten gallon pot and let
(13:57):
it root out get some size to it, So I
would probably plan it like I would protect it this year,
just pull it, uh, you know, bring it in if
we get a whole real cold spell during the winter,
and I would plan it early next year. So but
(14:18):
I typically recommend that just so you get a really
good root zone for it. That way, you don't have
to baby it at all once you put it in
the ground.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I want to interject just a little bit when you
say early next year. How early, because we can still
get some cold snaps towards the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, usually March, you know. I mean you can plan
them now, but you have to make sure you keep
them watered during the summer, and then they have to
be protected and then you have to protect it during
the cold. So and I've had the best luck just
rooting it out to like a ten gallon pot. It's
like a little squat ten gallon pot. It's no deeper
(14:55):
than what they come in, but it's wider. So you
just get a really good at root zone to put
in the ground. So, which is kind of good to go.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
When I bought that one three years ago, there was
several different varieties. It was hard to choose. You got
any suggestions.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Honestly, man, there's so depending on who you talk to,
they'll swear by this variety in that variety. Honestly, man.
The the only big difference I've noticed between all of
them is their fruiting time. So like one the flowers
may open a few weeks before, so that one would
ripen a few weeks before the next variety. As far
(15:36):
as cold heartiness, the Miho and the Ertic frost and
the o' warri are pretty good, but they're all gonna
be pretty comparable. Like if you look on the back
of the tag, like Miho is like five degrees colder,
then say brown select. So it's it's not a huge difference.
(15:57):
So and I don't know, I've had multiple varieties planet
and like if we go pick them, I could not
tell you which ones which. As far as sweetness goes
stuff like that. Uh, the the only thing that Arctic
frost has thorns compared to like your brown select, your
(16:17):
oar and your miho are gonna be thornless. So that
would be the probably the biggest difference between them all.
So but typically I usually just go with a Warri.
It's been it's been around forever. Yeah, that's the one.
Most people come in looking for a worry. And then
brown select is just a selection of a warri that
(16:39):
I believe it just blooms, blooms a little bit sooner
than a warri, So I would just go yeah, with
either a worri or brown select.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Can you tell by the amount of flowers how much
fruit are you gonna get.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So a mature tree, yeah, typically you can get around
about because some some flowers are just gonna drop, they
won't actually set, you know. But if something's loaded down,
you expect a pretty decent crop, unless it's in like
high stress, because citrus will do a thing where they'll
(17:18):
so say a root zone gets disturbed or they just
got something puts them in distress, they'll just flower like
crazy and inject most of the flowers. But if it's
just like a healthy tree, like there's no damage, exterior
damage or anything like that, and it fruits, it flowers
real well, typically you'll have a really good crop like that.
(17:41):
This year, I'm not getting anything on mine because mine
got hammered in the freeze.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Yeah that was my next question, because my mind got hammered,
but it came back.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was I was a little upset mine.
I had kind of Bond's eyed almost. I mean it's
like eight foot tall, but I like limbed it up
and it was very very ornamental looking, and then I
lost half the trunk.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So it was like, well now it's kind of lapsided.
But you know, it just typically roundabout with the flowers,
you're just going to kind of look for if it
if it blooms real well say you'll probably lose twenty
percent of the flowers something like that. Expect those to
eject and you'll probably have the rest a worry or
(18:29):
just said soon as in general kind of neat. They
kind of just have an on switch as far as
fruiting goes. So it's when they start to really flowery.
It's I mean they're heavy, heavy producers. So and then
I like to actually pick the flowers off when they
flower for the first year to two years and you'll
(18:52):
you'll keep some of the flowers so that you get fruit,
but you just want to reduce the weight that's going
to be on the limbs during fruiting season. Okay, yeah,
because if the if the trunk's not big enough, I
mean you put and you got thirty fruit on a limb,
it'll snap that limb. So all right, sounds good. I
(19:15):
appreciate to help take Carelee. That's a good question. Yeah, yeah,
always several good questions.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Now, So anyway, moving on to my huge list of
stuff I was supposed to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Are we doing Plants of the Week. No, we don't
have enough time for that. That'll be next segment. No. There,
So we're going to talk about our plants of the
week next our next segment. But that'd be buddly. But
I wanted to quickly just kind of talk about all
of our locations have an excellent selection of day lilies
right now. Yeah, and you know some people aren't into
(19:55):
day lilies. I mean, I don't have any in my house,
but I like to look at them from afar.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, I've never planted them, but there there's a park
close to my house that has like a mass planting
of day lilies, and I have to say it is
it is impressive.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
No, see, no, it's a man. They're really neat plants.
They're perennial. They come back each year when they start blooming.
They really they bloom really well. It's like you see
them from the street uh.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And I really like the they'll get aphids on them, they'll.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Get a fungal infection called rust on them. I like
using the bio advanced. It's a really good product. Is like,
it's the truth, and you know, it's just uh and
there's different ones. You got spider right, BioAdvance wellich is
I mean it's a a good fung aside, a good
mita side, and a good insecticide. Yep. You know. So
(20:53):
usually I always have that my ship because it's just
i mean fixed for most things. But you know, and
it was interesting, we're talking about day lilies. We go
off on a tangent. So my mom has these dailies
she got from my great aunt years ago. My great
aunt's like ninety something, uh, and she sent me pictures,
(21:14):
want me the idea. So I ended up had to
reach out to there's so many, you know, there's so
many day lilies. So I ended up reaching out to
a friend of mine who's friends with a daily breeder.
And then the daily breeder was pretty much is just
a ditch daily day lily. So it just made me laugh.
(21:37):
I'm expecting some patented variety name and he's like, no,
that's just the ditch orangers I think from what they are. Yeah,
and then I could tell they weren't really impressed with
it because it chokes out because it's a vigorous. Most
of the ditch varieties are the ones you'd see like
say you're driving down the road, you see grown in
the ditch, right, and they're much more AGGRESSI have then
(22:01):
a lot of the patented varieties like the dwarf, the evergreen,
and so they'll just out compete everything else so to
like fill your dailily patch. So I could tell it
was like, yeah, they're not about that, so but I
love them. I think that one's probably my favorite because
it's just this cool little double orange and I mean
it's blooming. I mean my parents have a white brick house,
(22:24):
so when it's blooming, you know, it really stands out.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I know.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
The people people that come.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Into the nursery looking for them, they swear by them,
like they say they're the easiest perennial they have in
their garden.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
No, there's a little lady that comes hunting hunting for
me usually, you know, and I don't know if she's
pulling my leg, but it'll say, say, we don't have
one that's tagged all right. She's like, oh, this is
this and I'm like, how do you know? How do
you know this? They look the same, you know, no
flower nothing, Yeah, you know, it's like trying to idea
crape myrtle. Yeah. Well look I'm kind of good at
(23:03):
that one though. Oh but it was It just cracks
me up that it was. I mean, I see her.
H it's sort of like three weeks ago. But it
is here every year usually you know, April to May
somewhere around there, and it's just a trip because every time.
So if anyone had any calls, questions, just wanted to
(23:24):
talk for the list with thirty minutes, you could reach
us at four nine nine nine five two six. That's
four nine nine nine five two six. We're here till
the end of the hour. And what were we talking
about before? We were talking about day lilies? Yes, we were,
but this is our plant at the week segment. You're right,
thanks for reminding me. And if I could have a
(23:46):
drum roll please, our plant of the week this week
is going to be Buddleia. Jeremy, you're slipping. Where's the
drum roll? Look, we got Booty Collins and on the Yeah,
so but we're we want to talk about buddlet spend
this segment kind of talk about buddleia or butterfly bush
is more common name, real neat perennial. Yeah, yeah, been
(24:07):
on the market a while. There's one variety that it's
considered invasive in most of North America really. Yeah. So
it's the DAVIDII, which, if I'm not mistaken, is just
the Black Knight or a black Knight's a cultivar of
the DAVIDII.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That's funny because I was gonna guess black Knight. Yeah,
So which is my favorite one? That just makes a
I like the bloom on that one.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I mean it is that is a dark purple, yeah,
you know, whereas most you would say is more of
a blue tone. Right, that is just like vivid purple. Yeah.
So I had one growing up, and we never really
had it spread really yeah, so it just kind of
now that's it. It was out just down in the lawn,
so I just kind of cut around it, right, Yeah.
(24:53):
But it's a neat little plant. Uh, I don't know.
I went down a rabbit hole the other day reading
about it.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Proven Winners has a bunch of different varieties of Budley,
and it seems like most of them are smaller, yeah variety.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So it's it's kind of neat pretty much everyone, every
variety on the market for the most part is it
does not produce a viable seed, right, And so it
kind of started that kind of trend kind of started
with like the Miss Molly, Miss Violet, Miss Ruby, all
the Misses in the Proven winter line, and then it's
(25:30):
expanded to like your Pugsters, and then there's also a
few other brands. I think there's first Edition Garden Debut.
They've all got Yeah, they've all got their own line,
and they're all going to be pretty comparable. It's like
a dwarf, like two and a half foot three foot, right,
(25:51):
I mean there's the Purple Haze, the Low and Behold
series that's a in the Proven winter line. Yeah, those
are smaller. Yeah, there's gonna be very small and it's
just a heavy, heavy bloomer and heavy feeder for typically butterflies. Yeah,
so they'll just come and you can see it. I mean,
and they're fragrant, Yeah, fragrant, you'll see them. They'll just
(26:14):
fly in like butterflies are just flying and feed on
it all the time. Yeah, because it's just a it's
a really heavy feeder, you know, and there's some controversy
on whether or not it's a good thing because they
kind of butterflies typically you'll look at I mean they
go when they feed there, and they will kind of
look as Okay, well they're feeding there, not feeding on
other more native plants or things like that, and they
(26:37):
kind of but you know, it looks awesome. It's a
heavy feeder.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
If you're using it in the landscape and you want
to attract pollinators, that's what you actually butterflies.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, go with budd lea. Yeah, And I mean I
like the purple haze one. It's problem a favorite because
it's just it has almost a cascading nature. It gets
like two and a half foot cascading nature a kind
of like a white like white like blue flower chid.
And but there they perennialize for very well. You typically
(27:10):
want to plan them early in the year or like
i'd say spring to midsummer. And I want to.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Say, butch usually would come in about bud lea that
you can prune that back heavily to make it, I guess,
uh produce more.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Blooms of yeah next season, yes, and uh, I find
you you definitely want to prune them back, right, but
you want to you need to wait until they leave out.
Oh okay, all right, Like some people would argue with
me otherwise, But I find if we cut them back
too early, uh, you can cause a little bit of damage.
(27:53):
And so typically we want to prune them back once
they leave out, okay, all right, And then you want
to prune them every year. It doesn't have to be
multiple times a year necessarily, but you want to pune
to do a good prune every year, and that helps
extend the life span of the plant. One thing with
them is they do not like stain wet. So typically
(28:14):
if if it doesn't leaf out from the winter, it's
not from the cold, it's from it's from being wet. Yeah,
because that's one thing they do not like. So you
kind of got to mount them up a little bit
because you want any excess water to flow away from
the root zone, and then not to cover them up
with mulch too much. Like they like their you want
(28:35):
to breathe, yeah, so they want an extremely light layer
mulch around that root zone. That's gonna be the biggest thing,
and honestly one a really thick foal bubbly even the
dwarf ones all right, doesn't provide a lot of shade
or excuse me, a lot of sun. It's because it's
shaded right underneath the root ball, so typically won't get
(28:55):
too much weed growth there. Yeah, right, But just to
help extend the lifespan of them. But like I said,
I mean they bloom, it's like what late spring, all
the way through the fall, and then you dead had
them a couple of times because once the flowers are spent,
they're not going to necessarily eject those flower butts.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So you want to just kind of tip those off,
especially if you have a white one. Yeah, you do
want to bring that. But I mean the and they
come in all kinds of ranges of colors. I mean
there's red, blue, purple, white, there's those crazy pink ones
the candy series. Yeah, there's a different a lot of
different shades of pink.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, and I mean some are some are pungent, yeah,
some are more pale, you know, and it doesn't really
matter what color it is. I mean, the butterflies will
come to it. Oh yeah. So but unfortunately we were
talking about this on our plant segment. But we got
a phone callar, so we're gonna have to jump to
the phone CALLAR. I don't want to leave Patrick, waiton right,
So Patrick, how's it going today? How can we help you?
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Fine?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I gotta quie.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
I have an auber that I just put up, but
it's about I guess about maybe five or six feet
long and about four feet wide.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But I thought about wisteria.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Then I said, well, you know that kind of gets thick,
and it's a wooden aubor. So what's your recommendation about
something that I can put to grow up a bine
that can grow up.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That aubor passion vine? Yeah, a passion vine would one
would be one option. That's it blooms pretty well, all right.
You'll get when it's caterpillar season, you get a ton
of these little cool orange caterpillars turned into an orange butterfly.
(30:44):
So that's a really good selling point on the passion vine.
Other thing would be like, and I don't know how
thick heavy duty this wooden arbor is would be Peggy
Martin roses. You want to keep those trim though, because
they can get a big or even like confederates or
(31:05):
confederate jasmine. But you will want to do pruning on
both of those just to kind of reduce the weight
on the arbor. And that's just and that's just gonna
be a little selective pruning and stuff. And I'm kind
of with you. Wisteria is a lot of very big Yeah.
So another plant though that I really like is called
(31:27):
Rosa montana. So that's a neat little vine. We actually
do have some of those. It is like the number
one B pollinator, like the bee, like the honey bees
go crazy for it puts on these little small kind
of tear drop pink flowers. So it's a perennial. It'll
(31:48):
die back in the winter time, but it comes, it
leaves back out and so that would be a really
good option as well.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
So okay, somebody said something about seven Sisters.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, so seven Sisters and Peggy Martin. It's depending on
who you talk to. It's about the same st thing,
wouldn't way, So yeah, but again, like both of those,
you'd want to do structural pruning, right all right, because
they'll get I mean, I forget who I was talking about.
I think it was Butch said it took down a
(32:21):
carport one time. Goodn't it because they just kind of
let it go forever, Like I don't know whether it
was twenty years or whatever, but it just kind of
kept growing. Take down a wooden fence, you know, for
but that's probably my favorite. It won't bloom all year,
but it puts on such a mass bloom in the
springtime that it's it's worth it. Yeah, you know, Okay,
(32:45):
all right, thank you very much. You're welcome, Patrick, take care.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
There's a reason why certain times of the year we
can't keep Peggy Martin's in stock.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I actually I think you were off or whatever. But
I was looking at the sales history and it was interesting,
to say the least, because it was like, you know,
i'd place an order because I do the I do
the landscape order for this seeking lane location, and I
place an order and I'm like one hundred and fifty.
That'll be good for a week, you know, because I
(33:17):
get a week, I get a load of we'll get
multiple loads every week of plants. But I was like,
this will be enough, you know, and then we're out.
Or there was that one year where Butch and I
were just selling them in the parking lot. Yeah, like
where as they came off the truck.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
There's been times where we've had a waiting list, yeah,
for Pegging Martins. And it's so it's and it honestly
just the fact that we do a waiting list on
some things.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's just like this is wild.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, you know, I thought I've always thought it was.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I just you know, And I mean I'm used to
like the strawberry bundles for instance, right, because we'll get
beer roots, strawberries and and.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
But that's understandable because that's a one a year, yeah,
once a year thing. But it would just be always
have Peggy Martin, you know, Peggy Martins. It's like, oh,
I'm not running out of those, you know. And then
I go look at my availability at the other locations.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm like, oh, everybody's out. Good morning, Gary, how can
we help you? Good morning?
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Can you give me the pros and kin of plant,
let's say, tomatoes or cucumbers from a small plant versus
issues and regular seas from a posiciant cucumba from automata.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah for sure. Uh so it depends. It really depends
on how many plants are growing, all right.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
I mean it's five or six.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, so if it's.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Just five or six plants, like I'd probably just do
get the plants themselves so they're already grown.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But then there there's some things that they come up
from seed really fast. So it's like cucumbers, for instance,
come up from seed very fast. You know, there's a
so some things just pop up real quick. There's no
much care involved.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You just drop them in a four inch container, a
little peat pot, and they'll come up real fast.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
I bought let's say four little plants cucumbers and about
four little plants or tomatoes from Cleig. I've got great
cucumber crop, but yeah, zero zero tomatoes. You know, all
the bushes I thought, full foot haul tall, little green
as can be, but very few flowers. It's the second
year in a row. I just wonder why I'm not getting.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What kind of tomato? Do you know the variety? Well?
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Two years ago I used the celebrity okay, and this
tash year, I think I use a big beef or
something like that, and and one celebrity, but.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
It's still the same.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Office is in my soil.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
No, And and like when did when did you plant them?
Probably March okay, all right, Yeah, I might there may
be like a phosphorus, like a low phosphorus level in
your soil. Uh. Do you fertilize every year?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Like yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, try to try to use something a little longer
lasting the eight eight eight as soon as you water it,
it kind of dumb. Yeah, dumps all the nutritional content.
So trying and use something that lasts a little bit longer.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Well, these tomato plants up, you know, they look great,
but it's nothing on them.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Uh So I don't know the I'd say, probably pull
them if you're not getting nothing, like are they flowering
at all?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Very few?
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Maybe two or three fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, Uh, before you do that, I might try there's
a product we sell at the stores. It's called a
Blooming and Rooting liquid like water soluble fertilizer SPREAT.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
I just spray a bottle.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, uh you water Actually you just mix it in
a two gallon water and can water on the love root?
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Whatout if I just keep these plants more through July
and I hope they make something in October.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, and some some varieties or they're not gonna set
fruit right in the heat. Yeah, all right, it really
just depends on the It depends on the variety. Okay.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Okay, so right.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Typically, you know, and it sounds like you got them
in the ground early. I kind of leaned toward and
they I guess they get full sun.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Yeah, they get they get about seventy five percent son.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Okay, Uh, I would say probably just I would try
and increase your phosphorus. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Now I did get too little, too little plants of
uh sweetheart of the patio, little charitimatoes. Yeah, and those
do great. Every year they make hundreds of them, and
they grow fast. They taste good, and you know, I
had no you have to put no chemicals on them
from bugs, nothing like that. They do great. I just
don't wonder why they do great, But the records made it, don't.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah. I would say there's probably some kind of phosphorus level.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Okay, Okay, I can mix up. Can I mix up
some ash out of my firepace into the soil?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Help?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I mean, I mean you can, but that's not gonna
that's not gonna give you the nutrie. Yeah, it's just
not gonna be available quickly enough for your tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Okay, that'd be something you would do for next year.
All right, thank you. Take care all right, we only
got a few minutes. Let's get jumped to Rusty. Good morning, Rusty,
how can we help you? Hey, good morning y'all.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Were talking about those lilies earlier. Yeah, we we have
some that grew the they bloom the yellow flowers, and
then they bloomed.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
The big orange flowers.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yeah, and they start off great. Every year, just about
the time they start to bloom, something comes along and
devours every leaf on every plant.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, so that's probably a caterpillar.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
So how can we get those buggers off of there?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What's gonna do that? So? Well, we're talking about earlier
was the Bio Advanced three and one, So that would
be something you would spray early, all right, to give
you season long protection. You spray it just like once
a month kind of deal. So you could use that,
or you could use SPINOSI would be another product, or
(39:20):
the BT, Yeah, or a BT anything like. I like
the Bio Advanced because it's a The mitaside will kill
any eight fits on them, all right. The funge aside
will help prevent the rust from forming when we start
getting some rainfall, and then it's got a systemic insect.
Decide to take care of anything that actually munches on
(39:40):
the leaf. So that'd probably that's my favorite stuff to
use on dailies. Or really you can use anything that
killed like you're eight or seven. Any of that stuff
will kill caterpillars too, but those are going to be
more on contact to get the best effectiveness. All right,
all right, thank you a lot. You're welcome. Good callers today. Yeah,
(40:04):
I don't know, so, uh, Jeremy, how much more time
we got? Two minutes? All right? Cool? So I wanted
to just quickly talk about vegetables because we talked about it,
and you know, we just want to make sure we
stay on top of the spraying because this is the
time insects come out, yep. All right, And then you
just make sure if we use like eight seven, whatever
(40:26):
we use, we follow the days to harvest label, right,
that is the like the that is the key recommendation
with it, because like eight, one plant maybe just seven
days to harvest. Another plant like beans or something could
be fifteen days or thirty days. So we just want
to make sure we follow our recommendations. And that's days
(40:49):
to harvest, so you know, if we're going to start picking,
I don't know, first of July. Make sure we are
spraying three weeks and we were spraying three weeks right yep.
Also water exactly exactly, so it's all. And also if
you want to have pumpkins for Halloween, July tenth, all right,
(41:14):
that is your cutoff date if you want to grow pumpkins, yeah,
all right. Now you can grow pumpkins after that, but
if you want to have them for Halloween, yeah, that's
when we're gonna want to start them. So, as always,
it's been a pleasure doing the radio show with you.
Thank you, Thank y'all for all the calls. All of
them were pretty interesting, made us think.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
And you know, I'm got to enjoy this sun while
we have it before it gets too hot. Yeah yeah,
And if y'all have any other calls or questions, y'all
could find Braden at the Second Lane location today and
you'll find me at Greenwell tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
So y'all have a great one. I'm sending them all
to you tomorrow. Yeah, exactly, take
Speaker 6 (41:54):
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(00:48):
it is actually a wonderful day up today so far. Anyway. Yeah,
it'll probably be brutal by a weapon, but it's gonna
get high. Yeah, but it was real nice this morning.
I got to go plant a ginger I had and
then uh, you know, pull some weeds that kind of stuff. Look,
I'm busy. I'm a busy guy in the morning.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't want to hear it. I have to leave
and go to work after this. Hey, look, I had
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at a different store. So, uh, but you know, we're
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(01:28):
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(01:52):
I've been trying to get my mom to kind of
play Reruins and they do their little farmer's market thing.
Wait I have but farm Yeah, well they they start
at like they do, not from nine to eleven. M
all right, well we're done by nine. Yeah, so it's like,
I mean, you can't even tune in. So, but we
(02:13):
got a lot of stuff to talk about today other
than the heat. No, there's a lot of things going
on in the nursery. We've been doing a lot of
clean up, fertilizing, trimming, pulling, a lot of weed pulling.
Well as especially with all this rainfall, we've been getting,
which I'm extremely grateful for because it was getting a
(02:36):
little getting a little dry in my yard.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But it does seem to make the weeds pop up
a lot faster.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, I mean, it just makes it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It makes anything, but yeah, you know, I mean, but
it's the weeds that really catch your eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yes, exactly. Lightly, Oh no, I mean I've got dove
weed exploding. I just took care of all my kalinga
finally I got around to it. But it just you know,
you take care one thing, then you see something else, right,
it's kind of a deal. So, but I wanted to
kind of quickly talk about fruit trees real fast before
(03:10):
we take We've already got a first collar on the phone,
but so still have a pretty decent selection of fruit
trees between the locations. But your blackberries, your figs, your blueberries,
that's a real easy crop. And you can even as
long as you just keep it well watered right now
(03:31):
with how hot it's getting, right, you can even you
can plant right now, especially it's going to be water
yeah exactly, Because I mean you put a three gallon
pot in the ground right now, you got what is
that three gallons ten inches wide? So you got ten
inches of root ball that can absorb water right versus
like something you planted last year. It's probably going to
(03:54):
be I don't know, twenty inches twenty four inches wide,
depending on how much root development happens. So but you
know we've got that going on. And then the like
your figs are just easy just in general, that's something
you just put in a corner, just make.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Sure it's watered. I find the same to be true
with blackberries. We have some blackberries in the yard that
we would never do anything with, and you can still
bloom and produce BlackBerry.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And I love the thornless because it's like, you know,
they grow normally as like this, git big.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I say, sorry, I'm meant blueberries, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But you're blackberries. For instance, all the thornless varieties that
are out really, I mean, they almost out compete the
old pen the old thorned varieties as far as fruit production.
And you can let them grow just kind of like
a little mound in a corner and you know, go
(04:50):
in there and pick the pick the berries. You know,
it's not so necessary to put them up on kind
of like a trellis or like my dad uses cattle panel. Uh,
and running puts the runners through it. It's like that's
not as necessary at least nowadays. So but let's go
in and jump to Steve. Let's see Steve, how's it
(05:12):
going today? How can we help you?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I have striped grass, both roches of small narrow.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And the wide yards and the turning green. I'm losing
my stripe? Is there some nutrient?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I can read it? Well, I'm sorry if I didn't
catch the first part. What is it that's striped?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Striped grasses losing the stripe? It's going green?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, So is that one of the like the Aztec grass,
like one of the groundcover ornamental grasses, striping grass? All right? Well,
it sounds like it may be reverting, all right. So
typically typically of variegated ornamental grass, all right, that's the stripe,
(06:01):
all right, that's grown from a nine variegated plant, all right.
And so sometimes you'll have them revert, all right, whether
they whether they went through some kind of stress, all right,
or I mean it could be a genetic even so,
there's not gonna be really anything to turn them back
(06:23):
to striped, all right. It sounds like they're reverting.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Okay, Well, I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It, Yes, sir, that was a good question. Uh So,
anyway back to fruit trees. We're talking about fruit trees, right, so,
uh you know, we've also got a great selection a citrus,
so we can go ahead and talk on that real quick.
This year has been pretty nice. We've actually been able
to get some larger citrus this year that have been
(06:54):
real happy with, like some seven gallon and I guess
you call it a ten gallon. We usually get them
in sizes like that. They were very nice, No, like
they're I mean how tall would you say? Those sevens
and tens were six foot someone right around with the
pot and yeah, versus you usually you see a citrus
(07:16):
tree it's like maybe three foot, yeah, you know, in
the caliber of the trunk, which is that's what I
really look for with mas citrus trees. I mean, it's
a good sizable size. It's like especially those ten gallon
those were like I don't know, not an inch, but
like three quarters something like that. So it's a pretty
(07:36):
pretty established tree versus what I would look at is
like a whip or a juvenile tree. Right. So, well,
we got that going on. What else is going on
in the bedding house nowadays? Right now.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean, uh, it's mainly just color. Yeah, things like pinas,
think uh Gelonia, all your hot summer annuals.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But we do still have plenty of color. Yeah, I've
been excited to see that y'all have gotten the passion
vine finally.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh yeah, we did get some of the one gallon
passion vines. And you know another thing that I've noticed
is been selling really well and a lot of people
come in looking for is that still the bogan villa
hanging basket. That's the that's the number one sellar. Yeah,
And I'll tell you what. Our color division does an
(08:31):
amazing job growing those.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's a weird I don't know, I I shouldn't say
weird plant, but it's an interesting plant because there's dwarf versions. Yeah,
and then there's more of an upright and it's weird
when you if you see it like to like go
down to Florida. You'll see some that are like ten
foot tall, twelve foot tall taller sometimes and it's fine, yeah,
(08:57):
but it.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Doesn't really look like fine No a lot of times,
especially if they're used in a landscape where they have
more of a tropical climate, they're kind of more shaped
like a bush or some people even use them as hedges.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, yeah, no, My sister in law's neighbor actually has
it's like Arica palms on one side and then like
twelve foot tall boken Villa bushes on the other side.
So it's like we're not you know, we're not gonna
jump the fence on that side, right, but it's kind
of you know here, and they're like, i'll tell you
(09:32):
there's a guy off of Sheerwood, Okay that it's clearly
really into boken Villa. He's got like twenty big I
know the house you're talking the cool it's the coolest
little yard because he like he keeps them in the
back and then during summer or spring. In summer he
moves them all to the front.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, when I passed by that house a couple of
weeks ago, they were all over the front, yep. And
then you drive past and you can kind of see
the driveway going to the back and they're all back
then and it's just full color.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And I always thought it was kind of interesting the
actual color on the broken video, like the pink, the white,
the blue, all those that is just a leaf.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's not a flat it's not even the flower,
you know, It's just it's a colored leaf that pops
up right behind don't they call that, I'm modified leaves, modified? Yeah,
but it you know, it pops up right behind the blue,
so it's like you don't really see it if it's
not going into bloom, right, So it's I mean, it's
just a really cool shrub.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
The only thing I don't like is the thorns. But
you know, I mean, we can't have it. We can't
have it all, So I can't have it all. Well,
it looks like we got another collar and then we'll
have to take a commercial break, so let's go and
jump to Charles. Charles, good morning. How can we help you?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Hey, good morning. A question regarding Maringa trees, like the
nutritional benefits of trying to grow one, but I'm not
sure about if it's feasible to do here put it
in the ground, or even if you guys sell them.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, we don't really carry them too often. Uh, I've
seen it like years ago. I think we had gotten
a handful in from somebody. I just remember seeing them
probably like five six years ago. But the typically you'd
want to keep that in a pot. It won't be
able to survive or winter, Like I know, our winters
(11:29):
are predominantly pretty mild. But then we just have these
sharp drops and and that's what we'll probably get it.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
So that a large pot.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, So a large pot, something that you can move around,
even if it was on like rollers, that way you
could protect it in the winter if need be.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Gotcha, Yeah, uh and uh, anything about care.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And as far as far as care, it's gonna be
more sun. You want, you want to put it in
more sun, like a well range pot, all right. And
then general purpose fertilizer. Especially since it's gonna be in
a pot, you'll you'll need to add fertilizer regularly.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Right, and in the ground it won't make a cold winter,
right probably not kind of like that kind of like
a mayer lemonry.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It just really it just depends how sharp a drop
we have. That's gonna be kind of the thing, because
that's gonna be that's more of a tropical gotcha, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Last last thing too is eucalyptus. Yeah, any tips on eucalyptus.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So more sun, more sun, the better, all right. I
typically recommend they go in a pot, granted, Yeah, granted
I have seen I've seen one in the ground, and
that sucker was probably twenty foot tall. It's like right
off the lakes, the Lsu lakes, and so I don't
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know how that one got that big or so our winners.
But typically we're gonna want to grow that in a
container as well.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, we have one at home and we bring it
in and protect it when it is cold.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, and I mean it's cold. They're cold hearty to
a point, like to like the thirties and stuff. But
you're gonna start to take some burn when it when
we again, when we have those sharp drops got you
all right? All right, thank you much, Good morning, Lee.
How can we help you?
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Hey, my daughter's young satsuma died. I want to plan
another one. Just looking for some advice when, Yeah, where
to get one?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, So I would go ahead and uh, we carry
them at all over our locations, several different varieties. So
of course I'm gonna recommend you shot with this. But
I would go ahead and get one now, but I
wouldn't necessarily plant it in the ground. I'd recommend to
put it in like a ten gallon pot and let
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it root out get some size to it, So I
would probably plan it like I would protect it this year,
just pull it, uh, you know, bring it in if
we get a whole real cold spell during the winter,
and I would plan it early next year. So but
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I typically recommend that just so you get a really
good root zone for it. That way, you don't have
to baby it at all once you put it in
the ground.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I want to interject just a little bit when you
say early next year. How early, because we can still
get some cold snaps towards the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, usually March, you know. I mean you can plan
them now, but you have to make sure you keep
them watered during the summer, and then they have to
be protected and then you have to protect it during
the cold. So and I've had the best luck just
rooting it out to like a ten gallon pot. It's
like a little squat ten gallon pot. It's no deeper
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than what they come in, but it's wider. So you
just get a really good at root zone to put
in the ground. So, which is kind of good to go.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
When I bought that one three years ago, there was
several different varieties. It was hard to choose. You got
any suggestions.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Honestly, man, there's so depending on who you talk to,
they'll swear by this variety in that variety. Honestly, man.
The the only big difference I've noticed between all of
them is their fruiting time. So like one the flowers
may open a few weeks before, so that one would
ripen a few weeks before the next variety. As far
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as cold heartiness, the Miho and the Ertic frost and
the o' warri are pretty good, but they're all gonna
be pretty comparable. Like if you look on the back
of the tag, like Miho is like five degrees colder,
then say brown select. So it's it's not a huge difference.
(15:57):
So and I don't know, I've had multiple varieties planet
and like if we go pick them, I could not
tell you which ones which. As far as sweetness goes
stuff like that. Uh, the the only thing that Arctic
frost has thorns compared to like your brown select, your
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oar and your miho are gonna be thornless. So that
would be the probably the biggest difference between them all.
So but typically I usually just go with a Warri.
It's been it's been around forever. Yeah, that's the one.
Most people come in looking for a worry. And then
brown select is just a selection of a warri that
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I believe it just blooms, blooms a little bit sooner
than a warri, So I would just go yeah, with
either a worri or brown select.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Can you tell by the amount of flowers how much
fruit are you gonna get.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So a mature tree, yeah, typically you can get around
about because some some flowers are just gonna drop, they
won't actually set, you know. But if something's loaded down,
you expect a pretty decent crop, unless it's in like
high stress, because citrus will do a thing where they'll
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so say a root zone gets disturbed or they just
got something puts them in distress, they'll just flower like
crazy and inject most of the flowers. But if it's
just like a healthy tree, like there's no damage, exterior
damage or anything like that, and it fruits, it flowers
real well, typically you'll have a really good crop like that.
(17:41):
This year, I'm not getting anything on mine because mine
got hammered in the freeze.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Yeah that was my next question, because my mind got hammered,
but it came back.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was I was a little upset mine.
I had kind of Bond's eyed almost. I mean it's
like eight foot tall, but I like limbed it up
and it was very very ornamental looking, and then I
lost half the trunk.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So it was like, well now it's kind of lapsided.
But you know, it just typically roundabout with the flowers,
you're just going to kind of look for if it
if it blooms real well say you'll probably lose twenty
percent of the flowers something like that. Expect those to
eject and you'll probably have the rest a worry or
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just said soon as in general kind of neat. They
kind of just have an on switch as far as
fruiting goes. So it's when they start to really flowery.
It's I mean they're heavy, heavy producers. So and then
I like to actually pick the flowers off when they
flower for the first year to two years and you'll
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you'll keep some of the flowers so that you get fruit,
but you just want to reduce the weight that's going
to be on the limbs during fruiting season. Okay, yeah,
because if the if the trunk's not big enough, I
mean you put and you got thirty fruit on a limb,
it'll snap that limb. So all right, sounds good. I
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appreciate to help take Carelee. That's a good question. Yeah, yeah,
always several good questions.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Now, So anyway, moving on to my huge list of
stuff I was supposed to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Are we doing Plants of the Week. No, we don't
have enough time for that. That'll be next segment. No. There,
So we're going to talk about our plants of the
week next our next segment. But that'd be buddly. But
I wanted to quickly just kind of talk about all
of our locations have an excellent selection of day lilies
right now. Yeah, and you know some people aren't into
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day lilies. I mean, I don't have any in my house,
but I like to look at them from afar.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, I've never planted them, but there there's a park
close to my house that has like a mass planting
of day lilies, and I have to say it is
it is impressive.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
No, see, no, it's a man. They're really neat plants.
They're perennial. They come back each year when they start blooming.
They really they bloom really well. It's like you see
them from the street uh.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And I really like the they'll get aphids on them, they'll.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Get a fungal infection called rust on them. I like
using the bio advanced. It's a really good product. Is like,
it's the truth, and you know, it's just uh and
there's different ones. You got spider right, BioAdvance wellich is
I mean it's a a good fung aside, a good
mita side, and a good insecticide. Yep. You know. So
(20:53):
usually I always have that my ship because it's just
i mean fixed for most things. But you know, and
it was interesting, we're talking about day lilies. We go
off on a tangent. So my mom has these dailies
she got from my great aunt years ago. My great
aunt's like ninety something, uh, and she sent me pictures,
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want me the idea. So I ended up had to
reach out to there's so many, you know, there's so
many day lilies. So I ended up reaching out to
a friend of mine who's friends with a daily breeder.
And then the daily breeder was pretty much is just
a ditch daily day lily. So it just made me laugh.
(21:37):
I'm expecting some patented variety name and he's like, no,
that's just the ditch orangers I think from what they are. Yeah,
and then I could tell they weren't really impressed with
it because it chokes out because it's a vigorous. Most
of the ditch varieties are the ones you'd see like
say you're driving down the road, you see grown in
the ditch, right, and they're much more AGGRESSI have then
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a lot of the patented varieties like the dwarf, the evergreen,
and so they'll just out compete everything else so to
like fill your dailily patch. So I could tell it
was like, yeah, they're not about that, so but I
love them. I think that one's probably my favorite because
it's just this cool little double orange and I mean
it's blooming. I mean my parents have a white brick house,
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so when it's blooming, you know, it really stands out.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I know.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
The people people that come.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Into the nursery looking for them, they swear by them,
like they say they're the easiest perennial they have in
their garden.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
No, there's a little lady that comes hunting hunting for
me usually, you know, and I don't know if she's
pulling my leg, but it'll say, say, we don't have
one that's tagged all right. She's like, oh, this is
this and I'm like, how do you know? How do
you know this? They look the same, you know, no
flower nothing, Yeah, you know, it's like trying to idea
crape myrtle. Yeah. Well look I'm kind of good at
(23:03):
that one though. Oh but it was It just cracks
me up that it was. I mean, I see her.
H it's sort of like three weeks ago. But it
is here every year usually you know, April to May
somewhere around there, and it's just a trip because every time.
So if anyone had any calls, questions, just wanted to
(23:24):
talk for the list with thirty minutes, you could reach
us at four nine nine nine five two six. That's
four nine nine nine five two six. We're here till
the end of the hour. And what were we talking
about before? We were talking about day lilies? Yes, we were,
but this is our plant at the week segment. You're right,
thanks for reminding me. And if I could have a
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drum roll please, our plant of the week this week
is going to be Buddleia. Jeremy, you're slipping. Where's the
drum roll? Look, we got Booty Collins and on the Yeah,
so but we're we want to talk about buddlet spend
this segment kind of talk about buddleia or butterfly bush
is more common name, real neat perennial. Yeah, yeah, been
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on the market a while. There's one variety that it's
considered invasive in most of North America really. Yeah. So
it's the DAVIDII, which, if I'm not mistaken, is just
the Black Knight or a black Knight's a cultivar of
the DAVIDII.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That's funny because I was gonna guess black Knight. Yeah,
So which is my favorite one? That just makes a
I like the bloom on that one.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I mean it is that is a dark purple, yeah,
you know, whereas most you would say is more of
a blue tone. Right, that is just like vivid purple. Yeah.
So I had one growing up, and we never really
had it spread really yeah, so it just kind of
now that's it. It was out just down in the lawn,
so I just kind of cut around it, right, Yeah.
(24:53):
But it's a neat little plant. Uh, I don't know.
I went down a rabbit hole the other day reading
about it.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Proven Winners has a bunch of different varieties of Budley,
and it seems like most of them are smaller, yeah variety.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So it's it's kind of neat pretty much everyone, every
variety on the market for the most part is it
does not produce a viable seed, right, And so it
kind of started that kind of trend kind of started
with like the Miss Molly, Miss Violet, Miss Ruby, all
the Misses in the Proven winter line, and then it's
(25:30):
expanded to like your Pugsters, and then there's also a
few other brands. I think there's first Edition Garden Debut.
They've all got Yeah, they've all got their own line,
and they're all going to be pretty comparable. It's like
a dwarf, like two and a half foot three foot, right,
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I mean there's the Purple Haze, the Low and Behold
series that's a in the Proven winter line. Yeah, those
are smaller. Yeah, there's gonna be very small and it's
just a heavy, heavy bloomer and heavy feeder for typically butterflies. Yeah,
so they'll just come and you can see it. I mean,
and they're fragrant, Yeah, fragrant, you'll see them. They'll just
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fly in like butterflies are just flying and feed on
it all the time. Yeah, because it's just a it's
a really heavy feeder, you know, and there's some controversy
on whether or not it's a good thing because they
kind of butterflies typically you'll look at I mean they
go when they feed there, and they will kind of
look as Okay, well they're feeding there, not feeding on
other more native plants or things like that, and they
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kind of but you know, it looks awesome. It's a
heavy feeder.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
If you're using it in the landscape and you want
to attract pollinators, that's what you actually butterflies.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, go with budd lea. Yeah, And I mean I
like the purple haze one. It's problem a favorite because
it's just it has almost a cascading nature. It gets
like two and a half foot cascading nature a kind
of like a white like white like blue flower chid.
And but there they perennialize for very well. You typically
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want to plan them early in the year or like
i'd say spring to midsummer. And I want to.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Say, butch usually would come in about bud lea that
you can prune that back heavily to make it, I guess,
uh produce more.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Blooms of yeah next season, yes, and uh, I find
you you definitely want to prune them back, right, but
you want to you need to wait until they leave out.
Oh okay, all right, Like some people would argue with
me otherwise, But I find if we cut them back
too early, uh, you can cause a little bit of damage.
(27:53):
And so typically we want to prune them back once
they leave out, okay, all right, And then you want
to prune them every year. It doesn't have to be
multiple times a year necessarily, but you want to pune
to do a good prune every year, and that helps
extend the life span of the plant. One thing with
them is they do not like stain wet. So typically
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if if it doesn't leaf out from the winter, it's
not from the cold, it's from it's from being wet. Yeah,
because that's one thing they do not like. So you
kind of got to mount them up a little bit
because you want any excess water to flow away from
the root zone, and then not to cover them up
with mulch too much. Like they like their you want
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to breathe, yeah, so they want an extremely light layer
mulch around that root zone. That's gonna be the biggest thing,
and honestly one a really thick foal bubbly even the
dwarf ones all right, doesn't provide a lot of shade
or excuse me, a lot of sun. It's because it's
shaded right underneath the root ball, so typically won't get
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too much weed growth there. Yeah, right, But just to
help extend the lifespan of them. But like I said,
I mean they bloom, it's like what late spring, all
the way through the fall, and then you dead had
them a couple of times because once the flowers are spent,
they're not going to necessarily eject those flower butts.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So you want to just kind of tip those off,
especially if you have a white one. Yeah, you do
want to bring that. But I mean the and they
come in all kinds of ranges of colors. I mean
there's red, blue, purple, white, there's those crazy pink ones
the candy series. Yeah, there's a different a lot of
different shades of pink.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, and I mean some are some are pungent, yeah,
some are more pale, you know, and it doesn't really
matter what color it is. I mean, the butterflies will
come to it. Oh yeah. So but unfortunately we were
talking about this on our plant segment. But we got
a phone callar, so we're gonna have to jump to
the phone CALLAR. I don't want to leave Patrick, waiton right,
So Patrick, how's it going today? How can we help you?
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Fine?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I gotta quie.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
I have an auber that I just put up, but
it's about I guess about maybe five or six feet
long and about four feet wide.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But I thought about wisteria.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Then I said, well, you know that kind of gets thick,
and it's a wooden aubor. So what's your recommendation about
something that I can put to grow up a bine
that can grow up.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That aubor passion vine? Yeah, a passion vine would one
would be one option. That's it blooms pretty well, all right.
You'll get when it's caterpillar season, you get a ton
of these little cool orange caterpillars turned into an orange butterfly.
(30:44):
So that's a really good selling point on the passion vine.
Other thing would be like, and I don't know how
thick heavy duty this wooden arbor is would be Peggy
Martin roses. You want to keep those trim though, because
they can get a big or even like confederates or
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confederate jasmine. But you will want to do pruning on
both of those just to kind of reduce the weight
on the arbor. And that's just and that's just gonna
be a little selective pruning and stuff. And I'm kind
of with you. Wisteria is a lot of very big Yeah.
So another plant though that I really like is called
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Rosa montana. So that's a neat little vine. We actually
do have some of those. It is like the number
one B pollinator, like the bee, like the honey bees
go crazy for it puts on these little small kind
of tear drop pink flowers. So it's a perennial. It'll
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die back in the winter time, but it comes, it
leaves back out and so that would be a really
good option as well.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
So okay, somebody said something about seven Sisters.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, so seven Sisters and Peggy Martin. It's depending on
who you talk to. It's about the same st thing,
wouldn't way, So yeah, but again, like both of those,
you'd want to do structural pruning, right all right, because
they'll get I mean, I forget who I was talking about.
I think it was Butch said it took down a
(32:21):
carport one time. Goodn't it because they just kind of
let it go forever, Like I don't know whether it
was twenty years or whatever, but it just kind of
kept growing. Take down a wooden fence, you know, for
but that's probably my favorite. It won't bloom all year,
but it puts on such a mass bloom in the
springtime that it's it's worth it. Yeah, you know, Okay,
(32:45):
all right, thank you very much. You're welcome, Patrick, take care.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
There's a reason why certain times of the year we
can't keep Peggy Martin's in stock.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I actually I think you were off or whatever. But
I was looking at the sales history and it was interesting,
to say the least, because it was like, you know,
i'd place an order because I do the I do
the landscape order for this seeking lane location, and I
place an order and I'm like one hundred and fifty.
That'll be good for a week, you know, because I
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get a week, I get a load of we'll get
multiple loads every week of plants. But I was like,
this will be enough, you know, and then we're out.
Or there was that one year where Butch and I
were just selling them in the parking lot. Yeah, like
where as they came off the truck.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
There's been times where we've had a waiting list, yeah,
for Pegging Martins. And it's so it's and it honestly
just the fact that we do a waiting list on
some things.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's just like this is wild.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, you know, I thought I've always thought it was.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I just you know, And I mean I'm used to
like the strawberry bundles for instance, right, because we'll get
beer roots, strawberries and and.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
But that's understandable because that's a one a year, yeah,
once a year thing. But it would just be always
have Peggy Martin, you know, Peggy Martins. It's like, oh,
I'm not running out of those, you know. And then
I go look at my availability at the other locations.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm like, oh, everybody's out. Good morning, Gary, how can
we help you? Good morning?
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Can you give me the pros and kin of plant,
let's say, tomatoes or cucumbers from a small plant versus
issues and regular seas from a posiciant cucumba from automata.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah for sure. Uh so it depends. It really depends
on how many plants are growing, all right.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
I mean it's five or six.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, so if it's.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Just five or six plants, like I'd probably just do
get the plants themselves so they're already grown.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But then there there's some things that they come up
from seed really fast. So it's like cucumbers, for instance,
come up from seed very fast. You know, there's a
so some things just pop up real quick. There's no
much care involved.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You just drop them in a four inch container, a
little peat pot, and they'll come up real fast.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
I bought let's say four little plants cucumbers and about
four little plants or tomatoes from Cleig. I've got great
cucumber crop, but yeah, zero zero tomatoes. You know, all
the bushes I thought, full foot haul tall, little green
as can be, but very few flowers. It's the second
year in a row. I just wonder why I'm not getting.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What kind of tomato? Do you know the variety? Well?
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Two years ago I used the celebrity okay, and this
tash year, I think I use a big beef or
something like that, and and one celebrity, but.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
It's still the same.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Office is in my soil.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
No, And and like when did when did you plant them?
Probably March okay, all right, Yeah, I might there may
be like a phosphorus, like a low phosphorus level in
your soil. Uh. Do you fertilize every year?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Like yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, try to try to use something a little longer
lasting the eight eight eight as soon as you water it,
it kind of dumb. Yeah, dumps all the nutritional content.
So trying and use something that lasts a little bit longer.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Well, these tomato plants up, you know, they look great,
but it's nothing on them.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Uh So I don't know the I'd say, probably pull
them if you're not getting nothing, like are they flowering
at all?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Very few?
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Maybe two or three fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, Uh, before you do that, I might try there's
a product we sell at the stores. It's called a
Blooming and Rooting liquid like water soluble fertilizer SPREAT.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
I just spray a bottle.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, uh you water Actually you just mix it in
a two gallon water and can water on the love root?
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Whatout if I just keep these plants more through July
and I hope they make something in October.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, and some some varieties or they're not gonna set
fruit right in the heat. Yeah, all right, it really
just depends on the It depends on the variety. Okay.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Okay, so right.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Typically, you know, and it sounds like you got them
in the ground early. I kind of leaned toward and
they I guess they get full sun.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Yeah, they get they get about seventy five percent son.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Okay, Uh, I would say probably just I would try
and increase your phosphorus. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Now I did get too little, too little plants of
uh sweetheart of the patio, little charitimatoes. Yeah, and those
do great. Every year they make hundreds of them, and
they grow fast. They taste good, and you know, I
had no you have to put no chemicals on them
from bugs, nothing like that. They do great. I just
don't wonder why they do great, But the records made it, don't.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah. I would say there's probably some kind of phosphorus level.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Okay, Okay, I can mix up. Can I mix up
some ash out of my firepace into the soil?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Help?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I mean, I mean you can, but that's not gonna
that's not gonna give you the nutrie. Yeah, it's just
not gonna be available quickly enough for your tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Okay, that'd be something you would do for next year.
All right, thank you. Take care all right, we only
got a few minutes. Let's get jumped to Rusty. Good morning, Rusty,
how can we help you? Hey, good morning y'all.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Were talking about those lilies earlier. Yeah, we we have
some that grew the they bloom the yellow flowers, and
then they bloomed.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
The big orange flowers.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yeah, and they start off great. Every year, just about
the time they start to bloom, something comes along and
devours every leaf on every plant.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, so that's probably a caterpillar.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
So how can we get those buggers off of there?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What's gonna do that? So? Well, we're talking about earlier
was the Bio Advanced three and one, So that would
be something you would spray early, all right, to give
you season long protection. You spray it just like once
a month kind of deal. So you could use that,
or you could use SPINOSI would be another product, or
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the BT, Yeah, or a BT anything like. I like
the Bio Advanced because it's a The mitaside will kill
any eight fits on them, all right. The funge aside
will help prevent the rust from forming when we start
getting some rainfall, and then it's got a systemic insect.
Decide to take care of anything that actually munches on
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the leaf. So that'd probably that's my favorite stuff to
use on dailies. Or really you can use anything that
killed like you're eight or seven. Any of that stuff
will kill caterpillars too, but those are going to be
more on contact to get the best effectiveness. All right,
all right, thank you a lot. You're welcome. Good callers today. Yeah,
(40:04):
I don't know, so, uh, Jeremy, how much more time
we got? Two minutes? All right? Cool? So I wanted
to just quickly talk about vegetables because we talked about it,
and you know, we just want to make sure we
stay on top of the spraying because this is the
time insects come out, yep. All right, And then you
just make sure if we use like eight seven, whatever
(40:26):
we use, we follow the days to harvest label, right,
that is the like the that is the key recommendation
with it, because like eight, one plant maybe just seven
days to harvest. Another plant like beans or something could
be fifteen days or thirty days. So we just want
to make sure we follow our recommendations. And that's days
(40:49):
to harvest, so you know, if we're going to start picking,
I don't know, first of July. Make sure we are
spraying three weeks and we were spraying three weeks right yep.
Also water exactly exactly, so it's all. And also if
you want to have pumpkins for Halloween, July tenth, all right,
(41:14):
that is your cutoff date if you want to grow pumpkins, yeah,
all right. Now you can grow pumpkins after that, but
if you want to have them for Halloween, yeah, that's
when we're gonna want to start them. So, as always,
it's been a pleasure doing the radio show with you.
Thank you, Thank y'all for all the calls. All of
them were pretty interesting, made us think.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
And you know, I'm got to enjoy this sun while
we have it before it gets too hot. Yeah yeah,
And if y'all have any other calls or questions, y'all
could find Braden at the Second Lane location today and
you'll find me at Greenwell tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
So y'all have a great one. I'm sending them all
to you tomorrow. Yeah, exactly, take
Speaker 6 (41:54):
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