March 29, 2025 • 44 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, Scott and Dr. Allan from Clegg's Nursery talk about how we're getting close to seeing what survived the snow and what didn't, going over the signs to help you decide your next steps.
Plus plenty of your questions including fertilization, citrus trees, bamboo and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO lun and
Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine w GBO.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine six.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Good morning, Baton rouge. Is it's a beautiful day. Sure,
any day you wake up, it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's right. It might have to be good to be
on radio this morning sharing the gardening information, watching a
few showers come down, but.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
That's all right, that makes the flowers and plants grow,
that's right. Hopefully it will be too bad. No, No,
I think it's gonna be just fun.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
They'll give you time to regroup and plan about what
you want to do in your yard. Right, got to
get re situated. Okay, I'll go with that. Yes, that's good.
Well that voice.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We would we would like for you to be at
the garden center every day, but you if you can't
make it every day, come every other day and get
read it situated on the day you.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Don't, yeah, because because sometimes there's something that came in
that you missed at the by the end of that day.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You got to check every day or you're going to
miss out. Well, that voice with mine is Alan Owens.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
He's here. He's with Cleggs and also Bracy's Nursery. Good morning, Alan,
Good morning Scott. My name is Scott Ricca here with
Cleggs and Jeremy Porcine's in on the board for uest
taking care of things this morning, and we're here for
about an hour. We're going to talk along in a garden,
so we would invite you if you have any questions,
pick up the phone, give us a call at four
five six is four nine nine w JBO, and we
(01:33):
will do our very best to help you out with
the questions that you pose. And until those phones start ringing,
we're just gonna talk Alan, We we will. There's a
few things to talk about. I didn't I didn't make
my notes.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Do we have an agenda? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I know?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, No, no, I never know. Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But it's spring and things are going and the weather's good,
and it might be a little hard to dig a
new bed right now with the moisture and the soil,
but there's a lot of people that are just itching
to get out there and they're trying to see what
damage might have been caused by the friezes that we had,
and some things are obviously damaged, and some things you
might not know for a couple of months that there
(02:16):
were damaged.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's it, you know. I still think we may have
some bark split on some of our isalea plants later
in the spring.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That is one of the hardest things to explain to somebody, Allen,
because they come out in the spring and they bloom
and they're gorgeous, and then two months from now they're
walk in and say, my azaleah stem is dying.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And you'll go, well, that's freeze damage. No, No, he's
been doing fine since the freeze.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yes, yes, So you know the cold weather in January
made all the plants go fully dormant, fully into a
state or rest. And you know, when March gets here,
they start awakening. And azaleas have been in a very
good spring bloom pattern and uh, but still we're not
(03:02):
going to know what that cold damage is until they
start growing some new foliage, riving, some new stem elongation
and have more demand exactly because of that new growth,
right right, And you just may see one or two
limbs within the canopy of your larger southern end because
it turned brown in May or June. Or you may
(03:25):
have no damage at all, or you may have.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It can vary from one plant to the next. On
the house, it will, it will. And when we're talking,
we're talking about that stem split. If you start to
have a browning stem, follow that stem down and you
will often see a split in the bark that runs
the same length as or the same direction as the
branch itself, and you'll see it starting to peel back. Well,
(03:56):
that is breaking down the vessels to move the fluid
and nutrients out farther to the end. And as the
demand increases at the end you were having, we're having
a roadblock there right, you know, and they can't get through.
And now it starts to suffer as a demand increase.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Exactly exactly so, and uh Ozelias won't be the only
plant we see this year. I was telling Scott a
while ago that cold damage and laugh, Yette's a lot
worse than it was in Baton Rouge this.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Year is that it was I would be I don't know,
I might drive over there just to see.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, yes, must be horrible. It's depressing. It's you know,
the shrubs at the fast food restaurants where the snow
line was, the plants are green and flowering below that,
and everything above the snow line is dead.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The snow insulated, right, we had that nice, fluffy, light snow.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Not that was It was not heavy, It wasn't full
of moisture, right, uh huh. Yes, that was a good snow.
It was. It was. And a lot of people still
are asking me out whether the snow killed their plants.
And it wasn't the snow that killed our plants. It
was the cold weather. It either killed or damaged our plants.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And I think in some cases, if the plant was
a very low prostrate plant, snow might have insulated and
kept it doing to begetter. It did, and then I
think there's something with the way that pattern that snow cleared,
and it was warm, plants started to become active exactly.
And then we had the next freeze exactly we actually
lost I was mentioned to you, we actually lost some
(05:30):
small crape myrtles at the store right where I could
see new leaves emerging.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And now they're browned on the stem.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And that was from the second cold, right, right, and
you know that may or may not happen things in
a pot or more exposed to the cold, so some
things would not have happened in the ground. But yeah,
they expended their energy after the snow trying to push out,
and then they got hit again and they didn't have
any reserves to push out yet again. So it's going
(06:01):
to be an interesting seat people.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'm amazed that a lot of home gardeners unfortunately don't
know how cold we got. We were seven to nine
degrees in Baton rouge yea lackly that was three. Yeah,
Hammond was eight or nine, depending on who you listen to,
and we don't we don't have those temperatures right. Our
plants just are not adapted to it.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, I mean, I have some large citrus at my
house and on oh they've been planting for over twenty years.
I've never protected them ever, and sure I've had years
where I've had some damage that might have messed up
the flowers and the fruiting wasn't that great. You know.
The last the last five years, there's been several years
where my fruit, my fruiting has been minimized. But some
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of these trees one of them. I only have just
a few inches up from where the draft union is.
I just have just one little tiny twig coming out
the side of it. I think going to have to
cut down twenty years worth of growth and let it
regrow right.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And usually your older citrus are a little bit more
cold hardy too, but not cold hardy enough to handle
what we had. Yeah, yeah, So a gentleman at the
Covington garden show yesterday was asking me the same thing.
It seems like he had just a little bit of
new growth right above the graft union or a bud
union on some of his sistress. He lives in Slydale.
(07:27):
That's usually a little warmer than Baton rouge is. But
it's going to be a long recovery. People are getting
a little frustrated about citrus. And you know, the last
last four to five years have been very hard on cisrus,
and we really had ten or fifteen years before that
where we weren't getting these kind of times.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Man, and I had bumper crops after after years kind
of kill me. So, but the citrus has been a
very strong topic at the stores in the last couple
of weeks. So the one thing I keep telling everybody
is don't rush to prune citrus kind of tricky. Sometimes
you don't know exactly where that deadwood starts. And I'm
(08:09):
telling people they can go all the way into May
before they prune normal pruning time if necessary in February,
and we're pushing it all the way to May, so
you can see where that transition from livewood to deadwood is.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And CRUs citrus is a plant that probably grows the
most from May to September. You know, it really doesn't
get off to a fast start in the spring because
it's more of a hot weather plant. So and then
I don't know, I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
There's going to be a lot of trees where just
the rootstock comes back upright. And a lot of people
don't understand that most of all of the citrus that
you purchase are grafted. You have a union between a
type of citrus that makes good roots and uh citrus
that makes good fruit, and they're joined together, usually a
(09:03):
few inches above the ground. And even at an old age,
you can still see that that line if you're aware
of it. But anything coming from below that graft union
is not really desired on a tree. It will take
energy that's needed for the fruit bearing, and I've seen
(09:23):
them many times just smother out the fruit bearing portion.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Oh easily, Yes, right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That rootstock is trifolieta. If you break that down, try
three folieta foliage. It has three pedals to the leaves.
And there's not a single edible citrus that I am
aware of that has a leaf of that form. Right,
So if you ever see a leaf that has three
(09:50):
petals on it, kind of like a clover leaf, then
that's rootstock and you want to try to remove that.
I think the only exception would be alan if that
it was the only thing left of your tree and
you wanted to graft again onto it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yes, if you wanted to try to regraft.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Which grafting citrus is actually pretty darg on easy. Is
not complicated, No, But the size of the stem that
you're going to graft onto sometimes the time of the year.
I know nowadays they can they graft pretty much twelve
months out of the year, but typically it was during
the hurricane season, yes, when they.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Would do that.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So if you had a small sprig coming up now
by that time of the year, it probably would be
the diameter size that you would.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Need, right right, right, So, yeah, but I'm seeing a
lot of citrus that have a lot of rootstock in
the canopy due to the cold weather we've had the
last few years, yea, And most people aren't recognizing that.
And then during the citrus fruiting time, people are calling
in and asking, well, why is this fruit so seed
(10:58):
in so poor quality? Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You can tell some citrus, but you really don't want
to eat it, exactly exactly. And then fertilization, Alan, what's
your thoughts on fertilization for citrus right now?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I still say we need to hold off on fertilizer too.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You would want to see at least some new.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Growth exactly exactly. I'm thinking another another month or so.
I may some of the rest of us may say,
be a little bit more aggressive and fertilized now, but
I would still say hold off something.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, if I did anything, it would be very very mild,
right right, And or I would tell you to wait
until you see some signs of new foliage.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Can be exactly exactly. Yeah, you don't want to go out.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You got a tree that you can't even tell if
it's alive or dead, giving it a full dosage a furtice.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You don't want to further tress the trees considering the
situation that they're in right now.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, And I usually tell people it's like, if you're really,
really sick, you start off with something mild, you start
with some soup.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, yeah, you don't go to the full buffet. That's right,
that's right. Kind of the same thing with that as well.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So we have lots of open phone lines and we
are here to talk gardening. We've got another forty five
minutes or so, and we would love to try to
answer your questions of gardening if you have any, and
all you have to do is pick up the phone
and give us a call at four.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Otherwise we'll just.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Kind of talk about what comes up on our minds,
which is not bad. It's always enjoyable to have you
in here Allan Well, always good to be here with you, Scott. Yeah,
you always have a little more outside clegs a few
because you get out and move around see new things.
And you also work with Bracy's Nursery over Amy. You
(12:41):
said it's full bore over there.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Everything. Well, it's been very good last four or five
six weeks, so you know, spring for the wholesale and
I guess retail nurseries too, especially along the IT and
twelve corridor. You know, your first nice weekend in February's
when it gets going. That's right then, and then it
goes till Mother's Day, and then you try to get
it to go till Memorial Day and then and then
(13:07):
and then the the heat of gym. Yeah. But yeah,
we've had the plant availability is very good.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, we had a few bumps with weather, you know,
warm cold, warm, cold, too much rain, you know, rain
pattern on the weekends.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's been raining on the weekend, yeah, which.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Makes it tough for a lot of people that have
Monday through Friday ninety fives and uh, but we are
open seven days a week, so you can come in whenever.
But we are fully loaded and ready to go. And
you know, we've talked about citrus big question. Oh, lots
of uh heavy weed issues. It seems like in people's long,
(13:47):
lots of lawn fungal issues, uh that I have seen
this season, and alan seemingly still a lot of lawns
that lost their vigor at twenty sixteen floods and have
never really.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Gotten back up.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Let's let's add one thing when I when people come
in and they say, oh, my lawn was always gorgeous
until we had the flood in twenty sixteen, and now
this and that, And one of the first things I
always recommend is a soil test, right, I mean, you
know that gives you a lot of the basic things.
(14:24):
You're the best we control you can have as a
healthy lawn. To have a healthy lawn that starts at
the soil level, and so getting that test, making adjustments
that you can to help improve that can be a big,
big difference on how well things right grow.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
We want we want to check the soil pH r
lawn and your centipede wants to be in more acid soil,
and your.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Still I still have people come in and say, oh,
my old neighbor as long as gorgeous, and I got,
I got and he told me I need to lown
my lin, lown my lawn. It's like well on a
grass chef centerpede, probably not.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Exactly exactly so. And then your Saint Augustine likes to
be at that higher pah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So and if you see him intermingled and still growing, well,
I mean you're not you're not at the pH that's
best for either one exactly exactly, And it is easier
to make your pH go up and down, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It is id is you know, line application to raise
and a product with sulfur the lower I always do
that based on a soil test result. Don't just be
guessing about how much you need to be Yeah, you
can't guess which you can figure out how much you
need for a thousand square feet of lawn area.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Right right, we've had actually had some people call in. Okay,
let's jump to the phone lines and talk to who Peter, Peter,
good morning, thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Uh container gardening YEP or vegetables as a newbie to
container gardening, and then also one other question about line
after that, I need to I know nothing about container gardening.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Got five gallon buckets?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
What do I do from start to finish for tomatoes,
egg plants, bell peppers, zucchini?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Because I have terrible soil in where I live.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And I don't want to spend the money in time
to try to make a good.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
In ground gardens. So what do I need? To do
for buckets? Do I use a.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
File full five gallon with a dirt? How do I
get started?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Well, first of all, I'll tell you can grow so
much stuff for the container, but turn you turn you
radio down a little bit there, Peter.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Got on.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I would encourage you to come in and get like
a five gallon nursery container as opposed to one of
the five gallon buckets, like from the Poor Lows or
something like that. You'll have drainage holes. You want to
start with a good pot soil like the clegs potting soil,
or the tiger grow.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yep, the tiger grows really good, right, So Alan, do
you really think like a five gallon container is big
enough for a tomato?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Long term? You're you're you're pushing it.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I would go with a seven maybe, yeah, Peter's hard
to keep it watered properly. The soil is the sponge
that holds the water, and most of the soil mixes
that we recommend are well draining, so you're going to
need a bigger sponge. Otherwise, midday you're going to be
out there having the water your plants. Again, which if
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you have a timer and a little micro irrigation that
would be simple.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So and then so it's.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Water management and nutrition management. You can grow really good
things in those pots. Start off with a good soil.
Plant your plants. You are going to be watering on
a more regular basis than if it was in a
to the ground on natural soil, So you are actually
going to be washing some of those nutrients through the
soil more quickly, primarily the nitrogen, and so you're going
(18:08):
to have to supplement that through the growing season. Tomatoes
especially are a very very heavy feeding vegetable and once
they get up a little bit, and maybe the first
set of flowers, you need to really fertilize those about
every three or four weeks to keep them pushing. It
blooms on new growth. It needs nitrogen for new growth.
(18:28):
Nitrogen is the one thing you're probably washing out more
quickly out with your with your watering, you need to
stay up on your fertility levels. Ye well, look, let
me let me tell you this, Peter. You can go
back on the iHeartRadio and you can listen to this.
(18:50):
It's a free free download for iHeart and you can
listen to this fifty times. Right, just like we were talking,
to you right now, okay, if that would make it
easier for you, take notes of need, so not all,
not all vegetables need the same amount of furtilizer. So
ochre's pretty heavy, tomatoes pretty heavy. Things like pepper's not heavy,
(19:13):
but probably more. The LSU has a really good publication
as the Louisiana Vegetable Planting Guide, And in that guide,
maybe page eight or nine, it kind of gives you
a schedule for how often you would side dress. I
think you need to adjust that a little bit when
you're doing container gardening, because I think you need to
do it a little more frequently than what would be
suggested on that page.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
With a five gallon or a seven gallon container?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
How deep do the roots go on.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Eggplant and tomatoes and zucchini and and that kind of thing?
Do I need a full five gallon or step? Do
I need to fill it up with dirt?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Put it?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I would fill it all within about an inch and
a half two inches to the top. That way when
you water, it doesn't spill over and soaks down through.
But yes, I would fill that bucket pretty much.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Okay, all right?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
And then do I need to ask anything else that
I haven't asked.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well, the supplemental fertilization, right.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, yeah, so a lot of the questions ahead.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
A lot of times we recommend using a good complete
fertilizer initially when it has nitrogen, phosphors, and potash, and
some of the newer ones will have some extra micronutrients
added even to that, and though and then for your
additional nitrogen, we usually recommend calcium nitrate. The calcium on
(20:37):
in calcium nitrate will help many plants bypass the problem
of calcium deficiency where you get the blossom in rotten
and lose your fruit.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Okay, okay. The other question that I need to ask
y'all is you were talking about lime and with the yard.
I did my soil test last year. Put down a
good bit of lime in the yard, over a thousand pounds,
but I'm still low. But my soil test came back
(21:09):
as being.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Very high in magnesium.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I've been looking for calcidic lime low magnesium line, but
all I'm finding is dolomite, dolomitic lime which high magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, hold on one second.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Dolite lime with high magnesium when I'm already too high
a magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Right, So Alan is there a big detriment to extra magnesium.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
There's not gonna be a major problem with being high
or very high on magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Right, So that's not going to cause a toxicity problem, right,
And it would be hard to find the non dolomitic, right,
So I would just lie. If you still need to lime,
I would just I would line with whatever line that
would be available to you to purchase.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
That's what I needed to hear, guys, because I thought
I'd be poisoned in the the soil if I had had.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
The Yeah, there are some things that could be problematic.
Boron is the first thing that pops into my head.
But with magnesium, I don't think there's going to be
an issue for you, right right, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
All right, guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
All right, Peter, I have a great day. We've got
another car. We've got John, this might be interesting, John,
good morning. Thanks for calling the WJBO lawna Garden show.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
What's up.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Well, I haven't been able to listen to the show
for the last couple of weeks, so maybe asking a
question that's already been asked very recently. But what I'm
concerned about I have two varieties of bamboo, both of
them are clumping and one is Alphon's car and the
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other one is Golden Goddess, And I just want to
know what do you think the chances of them really survive?
And although the canes look to be the right color,
the original color, but that's all I can really tell
because the fun is not looking too good.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I think in general that that plant is still alive.
You might have some some of the canes might be dead.
You'll find it out eventually. The height of any individual cane,
the mature height hits that peak in its first year
of growth, and then after that you just have additional
(23:27):
leaves come out from the sides.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Really certain if that leaf cluster at the nodes has died,
if they'll put out more leaves at that point.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Alan, do you know? I am not certain about that.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But I'm pretty certain that the root would still be
alive and put up more colmbs this year, which would
put you in a position where you're going to have
new stalks blending with old stalks, and so if you
start seeing new stalks coming out, if it was me,
I would probably go out and get a chaw or
something and cut the tops off so I didn't have
(24:03):
too much of the old brown mixed with the new.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's what I would really recommend John. It may be
pretty labor intensive, depending on how many years those bamboos
have been on the ground. But from the bamboo I've seen, Oh,
we're going to have a lot of green new growth
coming up in all the dead wood.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, the dead wood mixed with you. Yeah, so I'm
pretty sure you have it now. I have seen where
somebody fit the clump is rather big. They actually take
a rope and bind it up tight and then try
to cut it with a chainsaw, which makes it easier,
but it's still not easy.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Well the other thing is once you cut.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
It down, what you're going to do with it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I've got I've got fifty feet of bamboom.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You can line a.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Bunch of duckblines with that, John, Yeah, I know. If
you're a bigger Hey, that alphons cart get is big enough.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There's some tomato stakes right there.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah, that's right, it's that's what's all.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, all right, would.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
You would you like some could we make?
Speaker 8 (25:06):
I got load already?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
All right, John?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I think your plans to alive. It's just gonna take
some time for it to push into growth.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Okay, yeah, I had always assumed it was alive, but
what I didn't know was the beneficial to go ahead
and cut everything.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Down now, or if you want the clump to look clean, yes,
if you don't mind it mixed dead and new, don't bother.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Yeah, okay, that is give me what I need to know.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Okay, all right, Marty, good morning. Thanks for calling the
w Gbola the Garden Show. How can we help you?
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Yes, sir, I have a four ten elevated UH box
so to speak for veshetable garden. I've had very little.
I've had very little success the last three or four
years with tomatoes and particular, but other vegetables to squash,
cucumbers and things like that. I've amended the soil for
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the last three or four years, and I think I
think the culprit is lack of sunlight. So I wanted
to get your expert opinion on the amount of sunlight
it's needed for those type of vegetables and if it's
not enough, is there a certain type of vegetables that
could be planned that doesn't require a maximum amount of sunlight?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, all the vegetables that we grow in South Louisiana,
they're gonna need what we call full sun, and that's
gonna be eight hours or more of direct sun to day.
So if you're not getting that eight hours, or you're
partially shaded during part of that those daylight hours, that's
going to definitely be a problem on getting your tomatoes
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to produce and your cucumbers and all those different basis. Marty,
how much lake do you get?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Oh, that's I think I think four or five at
the most. Yeah, that's that's probably yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably the biggest part of it.
And then if that was not part of it, I
would would be asking you about your nutritional elements.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
How often are you fertilizing raised beds?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Typically, UH need supplemental fertilization through the season as well.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
Last year, last year, I have a good friend who
lives the slaughter, so I've used a lot of his
horse maneuver to uh to amend the soul, to put
some of it in that. But that was just as
the last straw, so to speak, because I've had very little,
very little, like I said, very now that we had
we have produced some cherry tomatoes. But that's been the extent.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Up so Marty, composted manure doesn't always have as much
nicersen as people think it is. There's one product that
we sell lots of, it's the black cow calmanure.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
The but I've used that before too.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
But already the fertilization value of that is very low.
It's only a point five point five point five, so
that's very mild. If you just compare that to triple eight,
that's sixteen times lesser amount than an equal amount of
triple eight.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's very mild.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So if you're not adding additional fertilizer, you know nitrogen
that you can actually know the value of that you're adding,
you might be low nutritional value as well. But the
sunlight is one of the biggest, biggest things to worry about.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, that's my opinion too.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Now, how much should fertilizers like you say, triple thirteen,
but I added that four point gen elevated box.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
No, it's not gonna be a lot, Marty. I don't have, oh, like.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Like one of our four pound bags of your of
the fertilong Gardener Special would easily cover that area. And
I think probably no more than one fourth of that
bag per application, probably, Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
So about two pounds I got you.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
Yeah, thank you a lot. I appreciate that. I was
my wife and debate about a lack of our success. Said,
I always thought it was sunlight.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, sunlight.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
She's I have to yield to her because she's the
expert gardener.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, well, sunlight and then fertility, nutrient and availability.
Speaker 10 (29:33):
Okay, I'm gonna try the fertility and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
All right, Marty, have a great day. And I mean
that the addition of manures is great.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It helps provide or helps create a healthy soil with
a proper mix of microbes and organisms and things. But
that's not always as.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That that doesn't have that nutritional uh right, whole recipe there.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, So all right, now we're going to go to Tommy. Tommy,
good morning, thanks for calling the w j B LA
on a garden show.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
And so I was listening earlier about the citrus Street conversation.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yes, sir, and I do have a meat fruit. Oh no,
five and a half foot talls. It's five years old
and last year, I mean.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
Just an abundant crop, right, but with the snow and
the fees coming.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I've covered it with bis queen was. I put pipe
v insulation.
Speaker 10 (30:37):
Around the base and up to the top of the
first couple of forms.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
But from what you're saying, it sounds like I shouldn't
have covered it with this Wayne.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Let the snow insulate it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
The snow over the over the vis Queen would have
still helped insulate the area underneath it. But this queen
doesn't apple a lot of heat as well. It's better
than nothing, Tommy. But yeah, we had an extended cold
and what ground heat you had being released inside your
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tent probably ran out right right, So uh no, I
wouldn't putting the vis Queen on it was not a
bad thing.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And you did right protection your mind trunk also, yeah, yes,
I think.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
That did help because I thought it was completely dead,
because you know, last time we got to.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
Know a year or so ago, just a couple of
leaves turned brown.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
But this one everything died.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
But right above the first four and the two main branches,
I'm starting to get some group come out.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, brand new, brand new, not off the smaller branches,
just off the big trunk itself.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Off the main trunk, Yeah, right above the first fork.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Uh well, just how how far will I.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Have to cut back on the other branches?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Why don't you wait for another four weeks or so
and then you'll know what's going to branch or what's
gonna leaf out or not, and then you just cut
off everything that did not.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, And then if you.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Have a bunch of little suckers coming off a major branch,
you probably want to thin that down.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
To okay, my half or more.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, it depends on how thick it is, so.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Yeah, So if it really comes in like.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Stubble, correct, Yeah, you're going to remove some of the
stubble and just think about how the tree looked before,
kind of the spacing between the branches and things, and
try to replicate that somewhat.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
Okay, Also have a much small and enable tree that
a couple of years ago it went.
Speaker 11 (32:58):
Down to nothing, and I get some sprouts coming out
I think under the graph. So that's not going to
be any good, right, But still doing that, you're saying,
I can grasp on top of the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You could let one of those if the if the
plant is dead and you have rootstock coming, if the
fruit bearing portion is dead, but the rootstock is still alive.
You can try to graft onto that. And grafting citrus
is easy. But you the size that you're grafting on to.
There's a there's a diameter size maybe a little bit
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bigger than a pencil that's preferred because you can't graft
onto old thick wood. The bark doesn't peel right, you
can't get the the plant to accept the scion. Okay.
So if you if you had if you had a
bunch of thick stuff coming up, literally, if you cut
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it down and let it reach sprout.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Right, that young new or ship is what you're going
to want to butt or graft onto.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Right, So that new shoot from this season, now, if
you were to cut it down, the new ones come
out by the time it's time to graft, it should
be about the right size to do it on too, Okay.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
And where do you get the branch that you're going
to graft to the stock?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Well, if you have a different one in your yard.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
If you want to know the grapefruit, your grapefruit's alive,
you could take a piece of that. If your neighbor
had something, you know, just talk around see who's got what.
You want to graft, because you can graft any citrus
that we would normally have here, you would be able
to graft it onto that rootstock.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
So even greene fruit, I can graft onto that nip.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yes you can, yes, yes, So that's that's actually what
you already have. You have that rootstock underneath your grapefruit already.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
You just don't know it.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Okay, So I can YouTube on whatever if.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You're going to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Let me just go ahead and tell you this. It's
there's a guy called fruit Mentor on YouTube. He does
an excellent job, and he does one on lemon tea
budding and that's exactly what you would do. Okay, thank you,
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all right, sounds great, Thank you, Tommy.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
I would like to throw in just because we're coming
up on a break here, but we had an off
your question, uh huh about the best time to plant kalladiums.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, I usually we have people purchase early before while
they still have a good selection. I never tell people
to plant colladiums in the ground before April first, and
you could wait. The warmer the soil is the faster
they come up. So if you're planting them early and
the soil is cool, they're just sitting there. You could
wait three weeks if you're planning the first ones and
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it's too cool. Waited three weeks to planning some new ones.
They might very well come up at the same time exactly,
so there's no rush. I would wait till the soul
to warm up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I normally tell folks, you know, mid April, yes, in
this most ideal time.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, yes, but you could plan them in July. You would,
You wouldn't have the color up until then, but yeah, uh,
in April.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And we do have.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Another collar and we're going to jump to the phone
lines and talk to Dale Dale. Good morning, thanks for
calling the WJBL Lawn and Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Oh you want to Scott Allen? How ya doing?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Good morning? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
My question is I have some bush style green beans.
I put them in a bed and when I prepped
the bed, I put about two pounds of gardener special
in the beds. This was over a month, maybe a
month and a half ago when I prepped them. So
I was wondering if there was anything I can top
dress my green beans, because I know I don't need
to be putting any nitrogen on them.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
No, if I had, if I was going to tell
you do anything with those seeds, I would have told
you to mix some locklint with it before sewing. But no,
no nitrogen is recommended for beans after the initial bed
prep Are they not looking good?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I mean they're still just kind of short, kind of small.
They're probably about I'm guessing four to six inches tall
right now.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Might be a little slow with temperatures, maybe nighttime temperatures
holding them back a little bit, or cool soil so
holding them back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Have you had beans in that bed before, No, this
is the first year, brand new bed. If the bed
is new or not.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Yeah, the bed the bed is new as well.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Probably would have been a good thing to maybe blend
that with some monoculant, which is easy to do. You know,
mix a little innoculant, some water, dump your seeds in,
storm around, just to ensure that you have the proper
elements there so that the beans can fix nitrogen from
the air. So if that's not present, they can't take
the nitrogen from the air. So I guess they're not
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going to grow at their best unless you give.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Them some supple mental nitrogen.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But then there would have to be minimal amounts otherwise
you're going to affect fruiting. So Dale, I don't know
what that fine line is between that, So.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think I would just go with what you have,
and I think they're going to still produce a decent,
decent crop.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So Alan, would he later in the season if he
sacrificed one of the beans, or you know, at the
end of the season, pulled up and inspected the root system,
that would let him.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Know whether he would would he'd be able to look.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
To see if you have any of the nodules along
the roots that would be holding your nitrogen that would
have been produced or fixed nitrogen from the air, so
you could you could tell after the season, Dale, Or
I guess you could sacrifice one early, but it might
be a little too early to see that, so I
wouldn't do it now. So so just just play the
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hand you've got right now, Dale, And then and then
if the crop is poor this year, before you plant
beans in there again, or peas or any of the lagoons,
get some of the inoculant. And once you do that
to that bed once you probably will never have to
do it again.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Okay, all right, all right, I appreciate it, right.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Thanks, good luck with them.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
So you know on my window sill at the store,
you might have seen it, maybe not, but I have
a catalpatry and I was I was in the fall.
I was up at St. Francis vild Or in the
fall and they were having a little sail outside the
tractor supply.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Right, just happened to have, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So I went up and there were two young ladies
and they had some plants and they were in all
kinds of containers.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It looked like they had done them from so sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
So I walked up and s they had a cataal patry,
and yeah, I kind of want a catall patry, you know,
so I can go fishing and get some worms. And
I asked them, you know where'd you get those?
Speaker 10 (39:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
We out of them?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I said, oh you did, so I bought one brought back.
I never really started thinking about it, you know, go talpa.
I shouldn't really have to put nitrogen on that either, Huh.
I shouldn't have to. It's yeah right right, so uh
you know, so that's kind of cool. It's getting got
some new leaves on it. I'll probably bring it up
and PLoP it in the ground, or I might actually
put a little larger container and keep it till next fall, right,
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so I don't have to worry about watering it. But uh, yeah,
I thought that was that was one of those little
things I never even thought about ever that yeah, tree
being a lagom right right, who would know?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
And let's see as uh is a mimosa tree? Yeah,
should be? Yeah, yes, yes, so we don't have.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
To fertilize those at the store, right, save save a
few pennies heron there? Well, Alan, let me see, we've
got I want to remind people again I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
We have the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Thank you, Jeremy. After every show takes time loads it
up on that. You can get that app for free.
You can to it on your laptop or your on
your phone or whatever. I actually listen to it often,
like when you're on and I'm not here. Yes, I
go back and listen to it to so I can
learn something new. Yeah, which is easy to do for me.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Just hear somebody say something a little bit different, Yeah,
the way you say it?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yeah, sure, I mean it's uh, we've got some rainy
weather today through the day. But remember it's not good
to work your soul when it's too wet, right, And
maybe if you had a raised bed and it's all
improved and nice and loos and full of organic shifts,
But don't go out and plant your trees today exactly.
You know, I tell people, if you can't make the
soul crumble with your shovel because it's too wet, it's
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too wet to dig the hole, right, So you.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Know, just trying to.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
You're you're doing everything you're doing to loosen the soil
to help your plant get a better quicker foothold. But
when you're working clay when it's wet, you're compressing it
and you're doing.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You're just making it opposite compact, and you're affecting your
soul drained age and your aeration.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
And yeah, what's that old saying, too wet to plow, right,
So so go out there, But you can plan, Sharpen
the blades on your lawnmower, sharpen your shovel, get your
hand prunters sharp. So when you're doing all those cutbacks
on your azalias to get rid of all that splitting
wood later in the season, it's nice and easy. So
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we're at the nurseres We're open seven days a week.
If you need some help, come by call right, uh,
come see what's out there. It's a lot of things.
The beginning of the season all kind of it's changing
day to day. All the different betting plants that are
becoming available now.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Probably the best availability of vegetables so far this uh
this spring. Yeah, looking really good.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, oh gosh, what else do we have time to fertilize?
You're Saint Augustine, Maybe not so much centerpede right, it's
still a little early per centipede. Yeah, and and people
weed and feed. There's a lot of people that come in.
It's like I put a weed and feed out. When
do I fertilize? Yes, the feed part is the far
Okay you are doing that's a combination product, a weed
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killer plus so learn those. Not all chemicals go out
the same. The Saint Augustine wheat and feed you put
out in that watered end.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
The centipede.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
You do not do that, right, or the weed killer
won't work as well. On the fertilizer work just as fine,
but the weed killer won't. So make sure that you
read the labels. That's your responsibility. Make sure you've got
the right information. Oh what else sound is it's going up?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Well, we're almost April and that's really the prime, prime
gardening season for the Baton Rouge area. So we want
to encourage you all to come in and check out
the selection of warm seas and bedding plants and it's
time for venca. Think about what you could do in
your container gardens. And we do have some binca available
still a little early containers maybe US and containers, great
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selection of vegetables, a lot of tropical plants, tons still
really cool. Still tree and shrub available ability too, and
it's still an old k I'm going to be planting.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So all right, well, Alan, great to be here with you. Yes,
Sir Jeremy, thank you for the help. Bat Rouge. Hope
you'll have a great day, get out and enjoy yourself.
You've been listening to the WJBO Lawn and Garden Show
AM eleven fifty
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That's four nine nine six.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Good morning, Baton rouge. Is it's a beautiful day. Sure,
any day you wake up, it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's right. It might have to be good to be
on radio this morning sharing the gardening information, watching a
few showers come down, but.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
That's all right, that makes the flowers and plants grow,
that's right. Hopefully it will be too bad. No, No,
I think it's gonna be just fun.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
They'll give you time to regroup and plan about what
you want to do in your yard. Right, got to
get re situated. Okay, I'll go with that. Yes, that's good.
Well that voice.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We would we would like for you to be at
the garden center every day, but you if you can't
make it every day, come every other day and get
read it situated on the day you.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Don't, yeah, because because sometimes there's something that came in
that you missed at the by the end of that day.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You got to check every day or you're going to
miss out. Well, that voice with mine is Alan Owens.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
He's here. He's with Cleggs and also Bracy's Nursery. Good morning, Alan,
Good morning Scott. My name is Scott Ricca here with
Cleggs and Jeremy Porcine's in on the board for uest
taking care of things this morning, and we're here for
about an hour. We're going to talk along in a garden,
so we would invite you if you have any questions,
pick up the phone, give us a call at four
five six is four nine nine w JBO, and we
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will do our very best to help you out with
the questions that you pose. And until those phones start ringing,
we're just gonna talk Alan, We we will. There's a
few things to talk about. I didn't I didn't make
my notes.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Do we have an agenda? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I know?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, No, no, I never know. Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But it's spring and things are going and the weather's good,
and it might be a little hard to dig a
new bed right now with the moisture and the soil,
but there's a lot of people that are just itching
to get out there and they're trying to see what
damage might have been caused by the friezes that we had,
and some things are obviously damaged, and some things you
might not know for a couple of months that there
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were damaged.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's it, you know. I still think we may have
some bark split on some of our isalea plants later
in the spring.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That is one of the hardest things to explain to somebody, Allen,
because they come out in the spring and they bloom
and they're gorgeous, and then two months from now they're
walk in and say, my azaleah stem is dying.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And you'll go, well, that's freeze damage. No, No, he's
been doing fine since the freeze.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yes, yes, So you know the cold weather in January
made all the plants go fully dormant, fully into a
state or rest. And you know, when March gets here,
they start awakening. And azaleas have been in a very
good spring bloom pattern and uh, but still we're not
(03:02):
going to know what that cold damage is until they
start growing some new foliage, riving, some new stem elongation
and have more demand exactly because of that new growth,
right right, And you just may see one or two
limbs within the canopy of your larger southern end because
it turned brown in May or June. Or you may
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have no damage at all, or you may have.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It can vary from one plant to the next. On
the house, it will, it will. And when we're talking,
we're talking about that stem split. If you start to
have a browning stem, follow that stem down and you
will often see a split in the bark that runs
the same length as or the same direction as the
branch itself, and you'll see it starting to peel back. Well,
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that is breaking down the vessels to move the fluid
and nutrients out farther to the end. And as the
demand increases at the end you were having, we're having
a roadblock there right, you know, and they can't get through.
And now it starts to suffer as a demand increase.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Exactly exactly so, and uh Ozelias won't be the only
plant we see this year. I was telling Scott a
while ago that cold damage and laugh, Yette's a lot
worse than it was in Baton Rouge this.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Year is that it was I would be I don't know,
I might drive over there just to see.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, yes, must be horrible. It's depressing. It's you know,
the shrubs at the fast food restaurants where the snow
line was, the plants are green and flowering below that,
and everything above the snow line is dead.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The snow insulated, right, we had that nice, fluffy, light snow.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Not that was It was not heavy, It wasn't full
of moisture, right, uh huh. Yes, that was a good snow.
It was. It was. And a lot of people still
are asking me out whether the snow killed their plants.
And it wasn't the snow that killed our plants. It
was the cold weather. It either killed or damaged our plants.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And I think in some cases, if the plant was
a very low prostrate plant, snow might have insulated and
kept it doing to begetter. It did, and then I
think there's something with the way that pattern that snow cleared,
and it was warm, plants started to become active exactly.
And then we had the next freeze exactly we actually
lost I was mentioned to you, we actually lost some
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small crape myrtles at the store right where I could
see new leaves emerging.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And now they're browned on the stem.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And that was from the second cold, right, right, and
you know that may or may not happen things in
a pot or more exposed to the cold, so some
things would not have happened in the ground. But yeah,
they expended their energy after the snow trying to push out,
and then they got hit again and they didn't have
any reserves to push out yet again. So it's going
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to be an interesting seat people.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'm amazed that a lot of home gardeners unfortunately don't
know how cold we got. We were seven to nine
degrees in Baton rouge yea lackly that was three. Yeah,
Hammond was eight or nine, depending on who you listen to,
and we don't we don't have those temperatures right. Our
plants just are not adapted to it.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, I mean, I have some large citrus at my
house and on oh they've been planting for over twenty years.
I've never protected them ever, and sure I've had years
where I've had some damage that might have messed up
the flowers and the fruiting wasn't that great. You know.
The last the last five years, there's been several years
where my fruit, my fruiting has been minimized. But some
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of these trees one of them. I only have just
a few inches up from where the draft union is.
I just have just one little tiny twig coming out
the side of it. I think going to have to
cut down twenty years worth of growth and let it
regrow right.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And usually your older citrus are a little bit more
cold hardy too, but not cold hardy enough to handle
what we had. Yeah, yeah, So a gentleman at the
Covington garden show yesterday was asking me the same thing.
It seems like he had just a little bit of
new growth right above the graft union or a bud
union on some of his sistress. He lives in Slydale.
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That's usually a little warmer than Baton rouge is. But
it's going to be a long recovery. People are getting
a little frustrated about citrus. And you know, the last
last four to five years have been very hard on cisrus,
and we really had ten or fifteen years before that
where we weren't getting these kind of times.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Man, and I had bumper crops after after years kind
of kill me. So, but the citrus has been a
very strong topic at the stores in the last couple
of weeks. So the one thing I keep telling everybody
is don't rush to prune citrus kind of tricky. Sometimes
you don't know exactly where that deadwood starts. And I'm
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telling people they can go all the way into May
before they prune normal pruning time if necessary in February,
and we're pushing it all the way to May, so
you can see where that transition from livewood to deadwood is.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And CRUs citrus is a plant that probably grows the
most from May to September. You know, it really doesn't
get off to a fast start in the spring because
it's more of a hot weather plant. So and then
I don't know, I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
There's going to be a lot of trees where just
the rootstock comes back upright. And a lot of people
don't understand that most of all of the citrus that
you purchase are grafted. You have a union between a
type of citrus that makes good roots and uh citrus
that makes good fruit, and they're joined together, usually a
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few inches above the ground. And even at an old age,
you can still see that that line if you're aware
of it. But anything coming from below that graft union
is not really desired on a tree. It will take
energy that's needed for the fruit bearing, and I've seen
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them many times just smother out the fruit bearing portion.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Oh easily, Yes, right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That rootstock is trifolieta. If you break that down, try
three folieta foliage. It has three pedals to the leaves.
And there's not a single edible citrus that I am
aware of that has a leaf of that form. Right,
So if you ever see a leaf that has three
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petals on it, kind of like a clover leaf, then
that's rootstock and you want to try to remove that.
I think the only exception would be alan if that
it was the only thing left of your tree and
you wanted to graft again onto it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yes, if you wanted to try to regraft.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Which grafting citrus is actually pretty darg on easy. Is
not complicated, No, But the size of the stem that
you're going to graft onto sometimes the time of the year.
I know nowadays they can they graft pretty much twelve
months out of the year, but typically it was during
the hurricane season, yes, when they.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Would do that.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So if you had a small sprig coming up now
by that time of the year, it probably would be
the diameter size that you would.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Need, right right, right, So, yeah, but I'm seeing a
lot of citrus that have a lot of rootstock in
the canopy due to the cold weather we've had the
last few years, yea, And most people aren't recognizing that.
And then during the citrus fruiting time, people are calling
in and asking, well, why is this fruit so seed
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in so poor quality? Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You can tell some citrus, but you really don't want
to eat it, exactly exactly. And then fertilization, Alan, what's
your thoughts on fertilization for citrus right now?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I still say we need to hold off on fertilizer too.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You would want to see at least some new.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Growth exactly exactly. I'm thinking another another month or so.
I may some of the rest of us may say,
be a little bit more aggressive and fertilized now, but
I would still say hold off something.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, if I did anything, it would be very very mild,
right right, And or I would tell you to wait
until you see some signs of new foliage.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Can be exactly exactly. Yeah, you don't want to go out.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You got a tree that you can't even tell if
it's alive or dead, giving it a full dosage a furtice.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You don't want to further tress the trees considering the
situation that they're in right now.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, And I usually tell people it's like, if you're really,
really sick, you start off with something mild, you start
with some soup.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, yeah, you don't go to the full buffet. That's right,
that's right. Kind of the same thing with that as well.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So we have lots of open phone lines and we
are here to talk gardening. We've got another forty five
minutes or so, and we would love to try to
answer your questions of gardening if you have any, and
all you have to do is pick up the phone
and give us a call at four.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Otherwise we'll just.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Kind of talk about what comes up on our minds,
which is not bad. It's always enjoyable to have you
in here Allan Well, always good to be here with you, Scott. Yeah,
you always have a little more outside clegs a few
because you get out and move around see new things.
And you also work with Bracy's Nursery over Amy. You
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said it's full bore over there.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Everything. Well, it's been very good last four or five
six weeks, so you know, spring for the wholesale and
I guess retail nurseries too, especially along the IT and
twelve corridor. You know, your first nice weekend in February's
when it gets going. That's right then, and then it
goes till Mother's Day, and then you try to get
it to go till Memorial Day and then and then
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and then the the heat of gym. Yeah. But yeah,
we've had the plant availability is very good.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, we had a few bumps with weather, you know,
warm cold, warm, cold, too much rain, you know, rain
pattern on the weekends.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's been raining on the weekend, yeah, which.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Makes it tough for a lot of people that have
Monday through Friday ninety fives and uh, but we are
open seven days a week, so you can come in whenever.
But we are fully loaded and ready to go. And
you know, we've talked about citrus big question. Oh, lots
of uh heavy weed issues. It seems like in people's long,
(13:47):
lots of lawn fungal issues, uh that I have seen
this season, and alan seemingly still a lot of lawns
that lost their vigor at twenty sixteen floods and have
never really.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Gotten back up.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Let's let's add one thing when I when people come
in and they say, oh, my lawn was always gorgeous
until we had the flood in twenty sixteen, and now
this and that, And one of the first things I
always recommend is a soil test, right, I mean, you
know that gives you a lot of the basic things.
(14:24):
You're the best we control you can have as a
healthy lawn. To have a healthy lawn that starts at
the soil level, and so getting that test, making adjustments
that you can to help improve that can be a big,
big difference on how well things right grow.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
We want we want to check the soil pH r
lawn and your centipede wants to be in more acid soil,
and your.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Still I still have people come in and say, oh,
my old neighbor as long as gorgeous, and I got,
I got and he told me I need to lown
my lin, lown my lawn. It's like well on a
grass chef centerpede, probably not.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Exactly exactly so. And then your Saint Augustine likes to
be at that higher pah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So and if you see him intermingled and still growing, well,
I mean you're not you're not at the pH that's
best for either one exactly exactly, And it is easier
to make your pH go up and down, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It is id is you know, line application to raise
and a product with sulfur the lower I always do
that based on a soil test result. Don't just be
guessing about how much you need to be Yeah, you
can't guess which you can figure out how much you
need for a thousand square feet of lawn area.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Right right, we've had actually had some people call in. Okay,
let's jump to the phone lines and talk to who Peter, Peter,
good morning, thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Uh container gardening YEP or vegetables as a newbie to
container gardening, and then also one other question about line
after that, I need to I know nothing about container gardening.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Got five gallon buckets?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
What do I do from start to finish for tomatoes,
egg plants, bell peppers, zucchini?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Because I have terrible soil in where I live.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And I don't want to spend the money in time
to try to make a good.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
In ground gardens. So what do I need? To do
for buckets? Do I use a.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
File full five gallon with a dirt? How do I
get started?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Well, first of all, I'll tell you can grow so
much stuff for the container, but turn you turn you
radio down a little bit there, Peter.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Got on.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I would encourage you to come in and get like
a five gallon nursery container as opposed to one of
the five gallon buckets, like from the Poor Lows or
something like that. You'll have drainage holes. You want to
start with a good pot soil like the clegs potting soil,
or the tiger grow.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yep, the tiger grows really good, right, So Alan, do
you really think like a five gallon container is big
enough for a tomato?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Long term? You're you're you're pushing it.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I would go with a seven maybe, yeah, Peter's hard
to keep it watered properly. The soil is the sponge
that holds the water, and most of the soil mixes
that we recommend are well draining, so you're going to
need a bigger sponge. Otherwise, midday you're going to be
out there having the water your plants. Again, which if
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you have a timer and a little micro irrigation that
would be simple.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So and then so it's.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Water management and nutrition management. You can grow really good
things in those pots. Start off with a good soil.
Plant your plants. You are going to be watering on
a more regular basis than if it was in a
to the ground on natural soil, So you are actually
going to be washing some of those nutrients through the
soil more quickly, primarily the nitrogen, and so you're going
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to have to supplement that through the growing season. Tomatoes
especially are a very very heavy feeding vegetable and once
they get up a little bit, and maybe the first
set of flowers, you need to really fertilize those about
every three or four weeks to keep them pushing. It
blooms on new growth. It needs nitrogen for new growth.
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Nitrogen is the one thing you're probably washing out more
quickly out with your with your watering, you need to
stay up on your fertility levels. Ye well, look, let
me let me tell you this, Peter. You can go
back on the iHeartRadio and you can listen to this.
(18:50):
It's a free free download for iHeart and you can
listen to this fifty times. Right, just like we were talking,
to you right now, okay, if that would make it
easier for you, take notes of need, so not all,
not all vegetables need the same amount of furtilizer. So
ochre's pretty heavy, tomatoes pretty heavy. Things like pepper's not heavy,
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but probably more. The LSU has a really good publication
as the Louisiana Vegetable Planting Guide, And in that guide,
maybe page eight or nine, it kind of gives you
a schedule for how often you would side dress. I
think you need to adjust that a little bit when
you're doing container gardening, because I think you need to
do it a little more frequently than what would be
suggested on that page.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
With a five gallon or a seven gallon container?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
How deep do the roots go on.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Eggplant and tomatoes and zucchini and and that kind of thing?
Do I need a full five gallon or step? Do
I need to fill it up with dirt?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Put it?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I would fill it all within about an inch and
a half two inches to the top. That way when
you water, it doesn't spill over and soaks down through.
But yes, I would fill that bucket pretty much.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Okay, all right?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
And then do I need to ask anything else that
I haven't asked.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well, the supplemental fertilization, right.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, yeah, so a lot of the questions ahead.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
A lot of times we recommend using a good complete
fertilizer initially when it has nitrogen, phosphors, and potash, and
some of the newer ones will have some extra micronutrients
added even to that, and though and then for your
additional nitrogen, we usually recommend calcium nitrate. The calcium on
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in calcium nitrate will help many plants bypass the problem
of calcium deficiency where you get the blossom in rotten
and lose your fruit.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Okay, okay. The other question that I need to ask
y'all is you were talking about lime and with the yard.
I did my soil test last year. Put down a
good bit of lime in the yard, over a thousand pounds,
but I'm still low. But my soil test came back
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as being.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Very high in magnesium.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I've been looking for calcidic lime low magnesium line, but
all I'm finding is dolomite, dolomitic lime which high magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, hold on one second.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Dolite lime with high magnesium when I'm already too high
a magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Right, So Alan is there a big detriment to extra magnesium.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
There's not gonna be a major problem with being high
or very high on magnesium.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Right, So that's not going to cause a toxicity problem, right,
And it would be hard to find the non dolomitic, right,
So I would just lie. If you still need to lime,
I would just I would line with whatever line that
would be available to you to purchase.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
That's what I needed to hear, guys, because I thought
I'd be poisoned in the the soil if I had had.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
The Yeah, there are some things that could be problematic.
Boron is the first thing that pops into my head.
But with magnesium, I don't think there's going to be
an issue for you, right right, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
All right, guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
All right, Peter, I have a great day. We've got
another car. We've got John, this might be interesting, John,
good morning. Thanks for calling the WJBO lawna Garden show.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
What's up.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Well, I haven't been able to listen to the show
for the last couple of weeks, so maybe asking a
question that's already been asked very recently. But what I'm
concerned about I have two varieties of bamboo, both of
them are clumping and one is Alphon's car and the
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other one is Golden Goddess, And I just want to
know what do you think the chances of them really survive?
And although the canes look to be the right color,
the original color, but that's all I can really tell
because the fun is not looking too good.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I think in general that that plant is still alive.
You might have some some of the canes might be dead.
You'll find it out eventually. The height of any individual cane,
the mature height hits that peak in its first year
of growth, and then after that you just have additional
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leaves come out from the sides.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Really certain if that leaf cluster at the nodes has died,
if they'll put out more leaves at that point.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Alan, do you know? I am not certain about that.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But I'm pretty certain that the root would still be
alive and put up more colmbs this year, which would
put you in a position where you're going to have
new stalks blending with old stalks, and so if you
start seeing new stalks coming out, if it was me,
I would probably go out and get a chaw or
something and cut the tops off so I didn't have
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too much of the old brown mixed with the new.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's what I would really recommend John. It may be
pretty labor intensive, depending on how many years those bamboos
have been on the ground. But from the bamboo I've seen, Oh,
we're going to have a lot of green new growth
coming up in all the dead wood.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, the dead wood mixed with you. Yeah, so I'm
pretty sure you have it now. I have seen where
somebody fit the clump is rather big. They actually take
a rope and bind it up tight and then try
to cut it with a chainsaw, which makes it easier,
but it's still not easy.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Well the other thing is once you cut.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
It down, what you're going to do with it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I've got I've got fifty feet of bamboom.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You can line a.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Bunch of duckblines with that, John, Yeah, I know. If
you're a bigger Hey, that alphons cart get is big enough.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There's some tomato stakes right there.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah, that's right, it's that's what's all.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, all right, would.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
You would you like some could we make?
Speaker 8 (25:06):
I got load already?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
All right, John?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I think your plans to alive. It's just gonna take
some time for it to push into growth.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Okay, yeah, I had always assumed it was alive, but
what I didn't know was the beneficial to go ahead
and cut everything.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Down now, or if you want the clump to look clean, yes,
if you don't mind it mixed dead and new, don't bother.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Yeah, okay, that is give me what I need to know.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Okay, all right, Marty, good morning. Thanks for calling the
w Gbola the Garden Show. How can we help you?
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Yes, sir, I have a four ten elevated UH box
so to speak for veshetable garden. I've had very little.
I've had very little success the last three or four
years with tomatoes and particular, but other vegetables to squash,
cucumbers and things like that. I've amended the soil for
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the last three or four years, and I think I
think the culprit is lack of sunlight. So I wanted
to get your expert opinion on the amount of sunlight
it's needed for those type of vegetables and if it's
not enough, is there a certain type of vegetables that
could be planned that doesn't require a maximum amount of sunlight?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, all the vegetables that we grow in South Louisiana,
they're gonna need what we call full sun, and that's
gonna be eight hours or more of direct sun to day.
So if you're not getting that eight hours, or you're
partially shaded during part of that those daylight hours, that's
going to definitely be a problem on getting your tomatoes
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to produce and your cucumbers and all those different basis. Marty,
how much lake do you get?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Oh, that's I think I think four or five at
the most. Yeah, that's that's probably yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably the biggest part of it.
And then if that was not part of it, I
would would be asking you about your nutritional elements.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
How often are you fertilizing raised beds?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Typically, UH need supplemental fertilization through the season as well.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
Last year, last year, I have a good friend who
lives the slaughter, so I've used a lot of his
horse maneuver to uh to amend the soul, to put
some of it in that. But that was just as
the last straw, so to speak, because I've had very little,
very little, like I said, very now that we had
we have produced some cherry tomatoes. But that's been the extent.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Up so Marty, composted manure doesn't always have as much
nicersen as people think it is. There's one product that
we sell lots of, it's the black cow calmanure.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
The but I've used that before too.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
But already the fertilization value of that is very low.
It's only a point five point five point five, so
that's very mild. If you just compare that to triple eight,
that's sixteen times lesser amount than an equal amount of
triple eight.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's very mild.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So if you're not adding additional fertilizer, you know nitrogen
that you can actually know the value of that you're adding,
you might be low nutritional value as well. But the
sunlight is one of the biggest, biggest things to worry about.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, that's my opinion too.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Now, how much should fertilizers like you say, triple thirteen,
but I added that four point gen elevated box.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
No, it's not gonna be a lot, Marty. I don't have, oh, like.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Like one of our four pound bags of your of
the fertilong Gardener Special would easily cover that area. And
I think probably no more than one fourth of that
bag per application, probably, Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
So about two pounds I got you.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
Yeah, thank you a lot. I appreciate that. I was
my wife and debate about a lack of our success. Said,
I always thought it was sunlight.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, sunlight.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
She's I have to yield to her because she's the
expert gardener.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, well, sunlight and then fertility, nutrient and availability.
Speaker 10 (29:33):
Okay, I'm gonna try the fertility and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
All right, Marty, have a great day. And I mean
that the addition of manures is great.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It helps provide or helps create a healthy soil with
a proper mix of microbes and organisms and things. But
that's not always as.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That that doesn't have that nutritional uh right, whole recipe there.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, So all right, now we're going to go to Tommy. Tommy,
good morning, thanks for calling the w j B LA
on a garden show.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
And so I was listening earlier about the citrus Street conversation.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yes, sir, and I do have a meat fruit. Oh no,
five and a half foot talls. It's five years old
and last year, I mean.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
Just an abundant crop, right, but with the snow and
the fees coming.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I've covered it with bis queen was. I put pipe
v insulation.
Speaker 10 (30:37):
Around the base and up to the top of the
first couple of forms.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
But from what you're saying, it sounds like I shouldn't
have covered it with this Wayne.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Let the snow insulate it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
The snow over the over the vis Queen would have
still helped insulate the area underneath it. But this queen
doesn't apple a lot of heat as well. It's better
than nothing, Tommy. But yeah, we had an extended cold
and what ground heat you had being released inside your
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tent probably ran out right right, So uh no, I
wouldn't putting the vis Queen on it was not a
bad thing.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And you did right protection your mind trunk also, yeah, yes,
I think.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
That did help because I thought it was completely dead,
because you know, last time we got to.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
Know a year or so ago, just a couple of
leaves turned brown.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
But this one everything died.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
But right above the first four and the two main branches,
I'm starting to get some group come out.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, brand new, brand new, not off the smaller branches,
just off the big trunk itself.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Off the main trunk, Yeah, right above the first fork.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Uh well, just how how far will I.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Have to cut back on the other branches?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Why don't you wait for another four weeks or so
and then you'll know what's going to branch or what's
gonna leaf out or not, and then you just cut
off everything that did not.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, And then if you.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Have a bunch of little suckers coming off a major branch,
you probably want to thin that down.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
To okay, my half or more.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, it depends on how thick it is, so.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Yeah, So if it really comes in like.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Stubble, correct, Yeah, you're going to remove some of the
stubble and just think about how the tree looked before,
kind of the spacing between the branches and things, and
try to replicate that somewhat.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
Okay, Also have a much small and enable tree that
a couple of years ago it went.
Speaker 11 (32:58):
Down to nothing, and I get some sprouts coming out
I think under the graph. So that's not going to
be any good, right, But still doing that, you're saying,
I can grasp on top of the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You could let one of those if the if the
plant is dead and you have rootstock coming, if the
fruit bearing portion is dead, but the rootstock is still alive.
You can try to graft onto that. And grafting citrus
is easy. But you the size that you're grafting on to.
There's a there's a diameter size maybe a little bit
(33:34):
bigger than a pencil that's preferred because you can't graft
onto old thick wood. The bark doesn't peel right, you
can't get the the plant to accept the scion. Okay.
So if you if you had if you had a
bunch of thick stuff coming up, literally, if you cut
(33:55):
it down and let it reach sprout.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Right, that young new or ship is what you're going
to want to butt or graft onto.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Right, So that new shoot from this season, now, if
you were to cut it down, the new ones come
out by the time it's time to graft, it should
be about the right size to do it on too, Okay.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
And where do you get the branch that you're going
to graft to the stock?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Well, if you have a different one in your yard.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
If you want to know the grapefruit, your grapefruit's alive,
you could take a piece of that. If your neighbor
had something, you know, just talk around see who's got what.
You want to graft, because you can graft any citrus
that we would normally have here, you would be able
to graft it onto that rootstock.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
So even greene fruit, I can graft onto that nip.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yes you can, yes, yes, So that's that's actually what
you already have. You have that rootstock underneath your grapefruit already.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
You just don't know it.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Okay, So I can YouTube on whatever if.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You're going to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Let me just go ahead and tell you this. It's
there's a guy called fruit Mentor on YouTube. He does
an excellent job, and he does one on lemon tea
budding and that's exactly what you would do. Okay, thank you,
(35:17):
all right, sounds great, Thank you, Tommy.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
I would like to throw in just because we're coming
up on a break here, but we had an off
your question, uh huh about the best time to plant kalladiums.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, I usually we have people purchase early before while
they still have a good selection. I never tell people
to plant colladiums in the ground before April first, and
you could wait. The warmer the soil is the faster
they come up. So if you're planting them early and
the soil is cool, they're just sitting there. You could
wait three weeks if you're planning the first ones and
(35:51):
it's too cool. Waited three weeks to planning some new ones.
They might very well come up at the same time exactly,
so there's no rush. I would wait till the soul
to warm up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I normally tell folks, you know, mid April, yes, in
this most ideal time.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, yes, but you could plan them in July. You would,
You wouldn't have the color up until then, but yeah, uh,
in April.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And we do have.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Another collar and we're going to jump to the phone
lines and talk to Dale Dale. Good morning, thanks for
calling the WJBL Lawn and Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Oh you want to Scott Allen? How ya doing?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Good morning? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
My question is I have some bush style green beans.
I put them in a bed and when I prepped
the bed, I put about two pounds of gardener special
in the beds. This was over a month, maybe a
month and a half ago when I prepped them. So
I was wondering if there was anything I can top
dress my green beans, because I know I don't need
to be putting any nitrogen on them.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
No, if I had, if I was going to tell
you do anything with those seeds, I would have told
you to mix some locklint with it before sewing. But no,
no nitrogen is recommended for beans after the initial bed
prep Are they not looking good?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
I mean they're still just kind of short, kind of small.
They're probably about I'm guessing four to six inches tall
right now.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Might be a little slow with temperatures, maybe nighttime temperatures
holding them back a little bit, or cool soil so
holding them back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Have you had beans in that bed before, No, this
is the first year, brand new bed. If the bed
is new or not.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Yeah, the bed the bed is new as well.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Probably would have been a good thing to maybe blend
that with some monoculant, which is easy to do. You know,
mix a little innoculant, some water, dump your seeds in,
storm around, just to ensure that you have the proper
elements there so that the beans can fix nitrogen from
the air. So if that's not present, they can't take
the nitrogen from the air. So I guess they're not
(37:57):
going to grow at their best unless you give.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Them some supple mental nitrogen.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But then there would have to be minimal amounts otherwise
you're going to affect fruiting. So Dale, I don't know
what that fine line is between that, So.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think I would just go with what you have,
and I think they're going to still produce a decent,
decent crop.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So Alan, would he later in the season if he
sacrificed one of the beans, or you know, at the
end of the season, pulled up and inspected the root system,
that would let him.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Know whether he would would he'd be able to look.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
To see if you have any of the nodules along
the roots that would be holding your nitrogen that would
have been produced or fixed nitrogen from the air, so
you could you could tell after the season, Dale, Or
I guess you could sacrifice one early, but it might
be a little too early to see that, so I
wouldn't do it now. So so just just play the
(38:57):
hand you've got right now, Dale, And then and then
if the crop is poor this year, before you plant
beans in there again, or peas or any of the lagoons,
get some of the inoculant. And once you do that
to that bed once you probably will never have to
do it again.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Okay, all right, all right, I appreciate it, right.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Thanks, good luck with them.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
So you know on my window sill at the store,
you might have seen it, maybe not, but I have
a catalpatry and I was I was in the fall.
I was up at St. Francis vild Or in the
fall and they were having a little sail outside the
tractor supply.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Right, just happened to have, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So I went up and there were two young ladies
and they had some plants and they were in all
kinds of containers.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It looked like they had done them from so sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
So I walked up and s they had a cataal patry,
and yeah, I kind of want a catall patry, you know,
so I can go fishing and get some worms. And
I asked them, you know where'd you get those?
Speaker 10 (39:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
We out of them?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I said, oh you did, so I bought one brought back.
I never really started thinking about it, you know, go talpa.
I shouldn't really have to put nitrogen on that either, Huh.
I shouldn't have to. It's yeah right right, so uh
you know, so that's kind of cool. It's getting got
some new leaves on it. I'll probably bring it up
and PLoP it in the ground, or I might actually
put a little larger container and keep it till next fall, right,
(40:22):
so I don't have to worry about watering it. But uh, yeah,
I thought that was that was one of those little
things I never even thought about ever that yeah, tree
being a lagom right right, who would know?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
And let's see as uh is a mimosa tree? Yeah,
should be? Yeah, yes, yes, so we don't have.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
To fertilize those at the store, right, save save a
few pennies heron there? Well, Alan, let me see, we've
got I want to remind people again I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
We have the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Thank you, Jeremy. After every show takes time loads it
up on that. You can get that app for free.
You can to it on your laptop or your on
your phone or whatever. I actually listen to it often,
like when you're on and I'm not here. Yes, I
go back and listen to it to so I can
learn something new. Yeah, which is easy to do for me.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Just hear somebody say something a little bit different, Yeah,
the way you say it?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yeah, sure, I mean it's uh, we've got some rainy
weather today through the day. But remember it's not good
to work your soul when it's too wet, right, And
maybe if you had a raised bed and it's all
improved and nice and loos and full of organic shifts,
But don't go out and plant your trees today exactly.
You know, I tell people, if you can't make the
soul crumble with your shovel because it's too wet, it's
(41:39):
too wet to dig the hole, right, So you.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Know, just trying to.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
You're you're doing everything you're doing to loosen the soil
to help your plant get a better quicker foothold. But
when you're working clay when it's wet, you're compressing it
and you're doing.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You're just making it opposite compact, and you're affecting your
soul drained age and your aeration.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
And yeah, what's that old saying, too wet to plow, right,
So so go out there, But you can plan, Sharpen
the blades on your lawnmower, sharpen your shovel, get your
hand prunters sharp. So when you're doing all those cutbacks
on your azalias to get rid of all that splitting
wood later in the season, it's nice and easy. So
(42:21):
we're at the nurseres We're open seven days a week.
If you need some help, come by call right, uh,
come see what's out there. It's a lot of things.
The beginning of the season all kind of it's changing
day to day. All the different betting plants that are
becoming available now.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Probably the best availability of vegetables so far this uh
this spring. Yeah, looking really good.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, oh gosh, what else do we have time to fertilize?
You're Saint Augustine, Maybe not so much centerpede right, it's
still a little early per centipede. Yeah, and and people
weed and feed. There's a lot of people that come in.
It's like I put a weed and feed out. When
do I fertilize? Yes, the feed part is the far
Okay you are doing that's a combination product, a weed
(43:02):
killer plus so learn those. Not all chemicals go out
the same. The Saint Augustine wheat and feed you put
out in that watered end.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
The centipede.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
You do not do that, right, or the weed killer
won't work as well. On the fertilizer work just as fine,
but the weed killer won't. So make sure that you
read the labels. That's your responsibility. Make sure you've got
the right information. Oh what else sound is it's going up?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Well, we're almost April and that's really the prime, prime
gardening season for the Baton Rouge area. So we want
to encourage you all to come in and check out
the selection of warm seas and bedding plants and it's
time for venca. Think about what you could do in
your container gardens. And we do have some binca available
still a little early containers maybe US and containers, great
(43:51):
selection of vegetables, a lot of tropical plants, tons still
really cool. Still tree and shrub available ability too, and
it's still an old k I'm going to be planting.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So all right, well, Alan, great to be here with you. Yes,
Sir Jeremy, thank you for the help. Bat Rouge. Hope
you'll have a great day, get out and enjoy yourself.
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