May 24, 2025 • 45 mins
Getting into the weeds this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Zane and Scott from Clegg's Nursery! Don't want to have to deal with them all the time? Pull 'em up more often! Another tip: if you're having problems or questions about something - don't just take a picture, bring some samples to the nursery!
We also introduce a new feature: the plant of the week!
Plus we answer caller questions on cucumber beetles, and whether it's too late to plant sunflowers!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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We also introduce a new feature: the plant of the week!
Plus we answer caller questions on cucumber beetles, and whether it's too late to plant sunflowers!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
To you by Gleg's Nursery.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
If you have a question about seasonal planting, lon and
garden concerns or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine
w GBO. That's four nine nine two six.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Saturday morning. It is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, we're here at the WJBO on a garden show.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
My name is Zaane Mercer. Good morning, than Scott Rica, Yeah,
good morning Scott. Oh wait, that's exactly you know.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
And Jeremy, Good morning, Jeremy. Thanks for the far side calendar.
You know, that's one of my fas. I would tell
your dog good morning, but she didn't bring him. I
didn't bring him. So it is when nobody's supposed to
know that he comes up here.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's I'm going on.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So anyway, they just think they have somebody on the
weekend that comes in and has beautiful gold hair that shits.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So it is a gorgeous morning.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It really is a beautiful day. Did you get rain
at your house last night?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh did a Yeah? Yeah it wasn't forecast. Yeah, it's
because I jinxed myself. Didn't know Oh it was because
of you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I loaded all those bales of pine straw after hours
in the pouring rain.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I literally I left early to go get my swim
my swim gear to take the kids swimming.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And you didn't have to go to the pool. You
just stood out in the yard. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, it was like, oh, I drove all the
way over here, left early, and then it's raining.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But it might not have been raining at the pool.
It was coming down. Yeah, there was always I was
looking at the I was looking at the radar. It
was pretty pretty horrific. But it's beautiful today. It's beautiful today,
and you don't have to get out in the water
this morning. Nope, Nope, it's a great day to go
pull some weeds. Probably. Oh they'll pull nice and easy today. Yeah, exactly,
(01:57):
as long as you didn't let them go till like
there three feet tall. Yeah exactly. Now, that's the one
thing about weeds, if you stay on it, it doesn't
become a big chore. When you ignore it for a
month and a half, then all you is like, oh
my god, I got to go out and pull those weeds.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
In that time, they probably matured and started putting out seeds.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Probably put out like four rounds of seeds.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, and some of these plants, these single little plants,
can put out thousands of seeds per plant. So if
you want to get control of your weeds, you need
to teach yourself to be consistent for a period of
time and then all of a sudden it becomes easier.
But if you can, if you're going to put out
(02:46):
a pre emergent, you know, get that ready, go out,
get those weeds out, get your pre emergent, get your mulch,
do your beds, and then after that point just stay
on top of it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
If the game is to.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Keep your new emerging weeds from getting mature enough to
put out more seeds, and that's how you win the game.
It's not a bad game, but you have to teach
yourself to be consistent. Otherwise it zero is the game
and you have to start over. You know, every time
there's some things like chamber bitter for instance.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Oh yeah, where it's like two inches tall, it's starting
to put on seeds, right, But the second I see
that leaf structure, that's.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right, because that's the one to tell yeah, I gotta
I gotta go out there. And pull.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You know, at my house, I've got that little retaining wall.
Sometimes I just put one hand or lean over and
I just like start picking. But I might only pick
ten minutes before I go inside. Yeah, but that area
is clear.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, and that's a whole batch of seeds and it's
not going to put out more seeds, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And that area used to be horrible, I mean like
horrible with chamber bitter. Yeah, and now it's yeah, very
very manageable, very minimal.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You know, when speaking to chamber better, there's a we
can We actually carry a few products that's grated as
a pre emergent goes to keep from coming up.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So what do you think is the number one one
of the prines in the gold Yeah, honestly, that's the
same thing as snapshot.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, pretty much, it's on. I think it's missing one
active ingredient. Maybe not one, yeah, but you know it's
just that azoxaban as the active ingredient, which we carry
that by itself in Gallery as.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, which is the furdloan.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Broad leaf broad leaf weed control with the gallery, that's.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Right, that is and Gallery is the same thing as portrait,
and that is the chemical that we can actually use
in September October as a pre emergent for stickers. Yep,
So if you don't want to go out in hand
spray in January or whatever, not not waiting until you
(04:56):
feel the sticker in your foot because then.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It will work.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But that that's a pretty good control if you put it.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But you have to put it.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's a pre emergent, and a lot of times that's
spur weeds, stickers whatever you want to call it, burwed
sprouse in October. Sometimes it starts sprouting in September. You
have to get it out before. It's a great product.
But nobody really knows about it, No, No.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I mean it at our like on our shelf. You know,
we've got forty different creams. You know, there's like quite
a right wide range of pre emergence. And then this
little bag on the left.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Right, you know, so what else do you like for
chamber bitterer? So chamber bitterer kind of looks like mimosa. Yeah,
and people say that all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I usually, uh, I usually have a bag of snapshot,
so because that's what I used to use.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Not your house for a customer, but for a customer. Yeah,
you have you have all that knowledge that our customer
got control. Yes, that's the one in the gold.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, and that still covers I think it's eight hundred
square feet yeah, which is pretty deep. And honestly, I
think I feel like that's the best of the prems.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, you know, just having results right and snapshot and
I think it's actually the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Oh, we'll have to check when we get to it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
But that is more a professional grade, which is why
that's what you have sitting at your house. Well, you
being the nursery and landscape professional that you are.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It covers. I mean it covers like thirty thousand square feet.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yea for the bad so there's nothing sprouting on top
of the house, right, you can cover the whole yard.
I could yeah, yeah, like the whole property. Do we
have phones here where people could call in?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I sure, hope so, and you could reach us at
four nine nine six.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Aren't you glad to have that thing posted right there?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I like, how y'all just keep stapling fresher copies on
top instead of just replacing them?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, no, it keeps it standing up. It's just a
piece of paper. So but yeah, if you don't want
it to call. It's four nine nine nine five six.
We'd love to hear some questions, calls, concerns.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, I still have some blank spots in my front yard,
in my flower beds, but you know, it's really pretty.
I have some choreopsis that came back from last year.
I've got some beautiful blue I think it. I think
it was Mystic. Maybe I don't remember which blue Salvey
it was, but I've got beautiful blue Salvey's Estra leda.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
My Estra lead is awesome. Yeah, yeah, I have some.
Did you get the coral one or the roost? No,
it was a red one.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, and then I had some problems with it last year,
but it's coming back really strong. It might have been
because maybe I wasn't watering when it needed it, but
you know, uh but no.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's a neat little yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I mean, it's a pretty much a groundcover, so it stays,
so it hugs the ground.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
But it's good for hummingbird. That's why I put it.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I run the mower over that section where I have mine,
uh huh, and then it just comes back up.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So I've got you run the mower over during the winter.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
During the winter, of course, so I'm one to mulish
my perennial bed pretty well, and then I just let
everything come back out.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, and then yeah, and you know when you drive
in my drive, I've got to Craig murtles on the side.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's a big blank spot there. I've had some other things.
I think I'm gonna, well, we have so many now
sitting on table. I'm gonna put some sun patients there.
I've got just a perfect light, you know, I've got
long and it's they're so bright. I just I think
I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, hold that thought on the sun patients, all right,
because we're going to talk about that on the next segment. Okay,
it looks like we've got Donald beeping in, so let
me go ahead and get to him. Donald, Good morning,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Good morning? Good morning. I'm doing well.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Cucumber beetles, Man, them things are like not there one
day and the next day I got more than the
US depisite. It's almost like that many out there.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, they are pain Yeah, they're a little difficult. A
lot of beetles are difficult to control because they have
that nice hard protective armor around them.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So, yeah, what have you tried already?
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well, last year, I used uh prithion.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Seven uh parareth Yeah, yeah, but I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I wanted to use something milder, if there is anything milder,
because I'm trying to deter and killing my pollinators because
I don't have very many and like last year, I
had very low production because I didn't have a lot
of pollinators. This is only my second year with my garden.
But now this year, everything's doing really well, and uh,
(09:35):
I just was trying to avoid killing them.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well some things.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Some things is One thing would be timing of your spray.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
A lot of your pollinators much more active early, so
if you wait till near the end of the day,
it's not as bad. Okay, But uh I might try
some spinosad.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Uh huh. That usually works fairly well.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, and that's a that's a product we would just
reapply after a heavy rainfall. Yeah, because it's gotta essentially
just drives and sits on the on the foliage so
when they when they come and feed on.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, that's that's an ingestion type thing. So it's not
it's not like your pyrethrum was a contact and it
had a hard shell blocking that contact, right, right, but
try the work on your caterpillars. It's called spinosaid S
P I N O S A D.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Okay, all right, that's good.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's what I need to know.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, and it's uh it's something yeah that's elicted organic.
It can control a lot of things in different formulations.
They even use it as an ant control in your
vegetable garden, which is there's not a whole lot of
things for that, so uh so, really really good product.
You can't just spray the ground with your liquid for
ant control. We they they take it, they mix it
(11:03):
in a vegetable oil, then they spray it on corn meal,
so the ant actually thinks his food and picks it
up and brings it down into the into the colony.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So spraying the ground is pointless for that. So just
you know, all right, thank you very much. I have
a great one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't particularly care for cucumber beetles like cucumbers, but.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I do remember one time seeing it posted in the
bat and Rouge newspaper, a beautiful picture of that green
thing that kind of looks like a ladybug, and underneath
the caption said this male ladybug. Male ladybugs are still
red with dots. So yeah, so a cucumber beetles a
little more elongated green with dots. Males and a female,
(11:52):
but they are not male lady thugs.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I forget what it was one year that I was
kind of confused because I thought they'd I mean cucumbers
in the name. Yeah, then he just stay with I
think it was Japanese Magnoia's or something something. Oh, yeah,
they need all kinds, you know that. I was like,
y'all need to stay away from these. So good luck
for that. But anyway, my name is Zane Mercer. Joined
here with still Scott Ricca. Yep, we're with Clegg's Nursery. Yep,
(12:17):
case you did, in case you don't know, and.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We're here for the WJBO Long Garden Show, which you
can listen to any recorded podcasts on the iHeartRadio program.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, and Jeremy does a great job in the description
actually saying what we talk about.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, he does, so you can kind of go back
and nitpicked through if you're trying to find.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He really goes that extra mile. Of course, he's been
doing it for years. It's the only reason that we sound,
you know, halfway decent exactly. So and then we.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Also have our Facebook pages that you can go to
h and quite often Alan Owings is here in the
studio with us.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
He's the one that does all that with us.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And he does focus on certain plants here and there
that are timely or different things that you might.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Think about heavily for your your garden or law in
a garden for things that are timely.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So speaking of garden, yeah, uh, you know, you talked
about you're gonna leave space for sun patients.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I'm not leaving this fit. The space is there. I
got I got a big spot. It's uh, you know.
And the sun patients they're just an easier to grow plant.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's there.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
There are type of impatients, but you know, the impatients
that most people know. I've always been thought of as
a as a shade plant. But these sun patients are
some that are bred. If you had ever remember the
New Guinea patients, they look like New Guinea and patients
because they're bred from those, but they're much more sun tolerant.
(13:50):
They can take so much sun and they've done a
lot of refinement over the last number of years, and
they have these compact varieties that are just they're more
like almost more like little shrubs almost than just betting plans.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And see, I'm not big like at least the older
ones like the new guineas, and.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
New Guineas to me had issues they would rot right, uh.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And I'm not big on impatients typically because they they
get so leggy.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh, I used to well some of the brides I
used to like, you know, there's been a lot impatients
are not as available as they used to be because
of down in mildew problems and such in many of
the not too long ago has almost devastated a lot
of that industry for those. And there's ones out now
that they've done breeding and disease resistance and such, but
(14:42):
the selection is not what it used to be. So,
but they used to have super elphins that would stay
low in full they didn't get leggy, but you don't
you probably never even so.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But those were gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But I just know that, you know, when I and
I did much more maintenance in installation, it was like
if I planted in patients, it was like a return
trip for me to have to cut back, yeah, trim up.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
But the sun patients that the newer ones are more compact.
Some of the first sun Patients they grow two and
a half three feet tall.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, the compacts are eighteen twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Inches and I mean they're intense color. Some of them
even have variegated foliage. But the flowers are big, they're
up on top of the plant, you know, they're they're
they're vigorous, they're strong, and they don't even really take
much food. They're a low nutrient requirement plant. So give
them a little furtilizer to get gold.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
And honestly, there's so much range in the colors that
there's a color for really any color scheme.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, your flowers. The flower is bigger than a silver dollar.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, oh definitely. I mean there's whites, pinks, lavenders, reds.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, they're by colors where I like that orange. Yeah
that's hot. Yeah, it's a really nice hot.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Come because it's just mean you see it from the street. Yeah,
you know, and it's kind of neat. What was it
a we were talking before the show. Was it Takata
seed yep? Who out of Japan? Yeah, who came up
with the original sun patient cultivar.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yes, you know it's now that's like over thirty yeah,
thirty different varieties and those might include some of the
tall ones, but as well as the compact.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And we typically just grow more of the herself, more
of the compact one.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Well, I don't think that really the tall ones are
that much more available, and most people that's those big
ones are too big.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, so it's been several years.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Want something that stays nice, tight, gives you color throughout
the whole year.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Uh, it's a great plant to just put if you
have a plant, if you're doing a little planter, I
mean you drop one of those in there, drop a
character grass to give it kind of a little whimsical contrast.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And it's just a man.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
They make a show, right, And it's of course the
name Sun patients. You know, it can take so much
more sun than a standard and patient.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
And I found if there if you plan in too
much shade, they don't bloom as well.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
They don't bloom as well, and they'll get a little leggy.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, so they need at least at least a few
hours of light.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I found like light light, yeah, you know. And then
I mean I've seen him in full sun too all day.
So it was just a great little plant. It was
an L s U plant, super plant plant.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So I think Alan is going to have something about
that on a Facebook page if I didn't already mentioned.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So, see, I went down a rabbit hole when I
was reading an article he posted or he wrote like
things like ten years ago, twelve years ago on sun
patients the other day, you know, because I.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Was just like, I was bored at the house. So
that's what I do. So but uh, you know, we see.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, so you getting a lot of weed controlled, you know.
And a lot of people been in buying the blueberries
and blackberries at the Greendals Springs. I don't know if
there was something posted, but man, the BlackBerry verige were
just just flying out the door.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I can transfer you some.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I might need some, Yeah, and then the blueberries are
starting to get ripe, and that's an easy home fruit.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I've been really happy with our color division selection of blackberries.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah. What's that new and taste of heaven? Yeah, I
hadn't tried that. I hadn't tried it, and it doesn't
have any fruit on it, but it sure grows. I'm
gonna I've gotta put one of those in. That's a
new property.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, we've got so we have and we grew them
this year, the Traveler and the Freedom. But I've got
both of those at my folks house and those have
been doing, I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Doing pretty well too. That's like thumb size. Traveler is
not as vigorous as the Freedom is.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
And the full name is Prime Arc Freedom, So if
it might a little confusion.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, And I don't know about the qutie pie one.
Jerry's out on that one, all right. I don't know
if it's a small very big berry, but we'll see.
But no, it's just I've been happy with those that
we've gotten in because I mean they're just yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And you can still plant those now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
If you're doing peaches and things, I might, you know,
hold up till fall for peach. If I had citrus,
if I wanted to plant citrus, I'd go ahead and
get it in now, because that way i'd have a
whole season's worth of growth in the ground before the
freeze comes. And still if it's a bad freeze next year,
(19:24):
I mean it's still small enough you can take a
garbage can put over top of.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It, yeah, just to kind of protect it.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Obviously this last winter was pretty severe.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I pulled out the chainsaw Wednesday and I took down the.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
My blood orange.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Now I'd mentioned on a different show how after the
they started to flush out that.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
The ambrosia on a different show, you go on another No, no,
this show, all right, it's just making sure.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, so the ambrosia beetles had gotten on it.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
All the new growth that was higher up on the
scaffold branch all collapse, but down close to the graft,
and my rootstock is probably about sixteen or eighteen inches across.
I mean this tree was huge, and down within the
bottom ten inches, I was having follower's coming up, you know,
the fruit bearing folis. So I left a little bush
(20:22):
and then I selected some of those branches out, so
I think I'm going to leave it in the ground.
See what happens. I did the same thing to the
hamling orange. And then the sassume has had some growth
higher up, and those are that didn't surprise me so
much since they are a bit more cold hearty. But
one of them I need to get my pole saw
(20:44):
to work on it properly. But yeah, I finally started
cutting them back, and yeah, I was said when I
did my satsuma. Yeah, people are still coming in asking
if they're you know they're citrus are dead or not,
but and a lot of them the rootstock is growing
up up, and the easiest way to tell because when
you buy a citrus, well, now, sometimes you can buy
(21:06):
lemons that are not grafted through some I've seen some
Intown and some other retailers, but typically what you would
buy is a grafted fruit. And grafted you're taking two
different types of citrus, one that grows a good root
and one that grows a good fruit, and they splice
those or graft those together, usually fairly close to the ground,
(21:29):
within usually about six inches, and that way you have
a more vigorous root to push a more vigorous fruit
bearing portion. Well, the leaves don't look the same, so
off of the rootstock, you'll have a three lobe or
three petal leaf, kind of like a clover exactly, but
(21:50):
like a cloth.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I find it looks more like just a bird's foot, yeah,
or bird's foot, but three three lobes where the fruit
bearing usually is a single leaf with a single point
on the end.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And that's how you can tell the difference.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
If all you have is that bird's foot leaf, then
all you have is rootstock, and that will never produce
a desirable fruit. And so you can do one of
two things. You can go ahead and rip it out. Well,
you can do three things. You can rip it out.
You can leave it as an impenetrable shrub because it
will have thorns and you'll never want to go through it.
(22:27):
Or you can try to graft onto it again and
try to make it turn back into a productive fruit
bearing plant for your yard.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
So it's about time. If you haven't pruned, you need
to go ahead and prune.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You need to make You need to go out, figure
out what the leaves are and what you're going to do.
You can, like me, mine are coming out low to
the ground. I'm just gonna let it reform and in
all and the reality of it is, you've got a
giant root system already there. If you have some fruit bearing,
good fruit bearing growth left, it will probably grow like
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a race car.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean, it's gonna grow much faster, right, because it's
already got the ripping it out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yes, it's already got all those roots out there and
bringing all those nutrients in.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
You know it's gonna grow fast. And so will you
have fruit next year? No, Well you shouldn't because your
plant's gonna be too flimsy, but you know, good winter
next year, fruit the next The.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Only thing I found with that is you just got
to stay on top of preventing suckers.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Like yeah, so I had like ten, Well, I went,
I took my pocket knife and I selected. I left
three on that big one and then I'm probably going
to knock that down to one. But you know, you
know mine is the diamer so large I've got. And
you know, there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Wrong with having a citrus bush versus a citrus tree.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
No, no, no, all, I mean you're still there's the
exact same thing. That's you know, you got to pick
the fruit right So here with Scott Ricker last time
much yeah, both of us, both of them exactly.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Hey, good morning, thanks for taking my toll.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Absolutely. Can I still have some time to get some
sort of sunflowers in the ground about easy, easy that
that plane will shoot up. Do I need to do
seeds or plants?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well, it depends on what kind of sun flowers you're
looking for. So the typical sun flower that we think
of with a stalk flower on the top, whether it
be the ones that grow eight feet tall or some
of the dwarf ones that might hit three and a
half four foot. Those you could locate and sew from
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seeds and they grow very easily.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But there are some new sunflowers saying, so there's some.
I think it's proven winter it does.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
They do use like tissue culture sunflowers, if you're not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Right, But they're bush style, yeah, and they the ones
I was talking about. Typically you have one prime flower yep,
and then not much else after that. No, so you
could actually plant over and over and over again, like
every three weeks. You can plant a few more seeds,
and then your flowers will come in three weeks apart
from each other basically, and you can have some to
harvest to bring inside while still having someone in the
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yard to keep coming exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But yours, yeah, one you're talking in a bush form.
Those will just kind of keep on putting out flowers.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And yeah, so we had one of those. Is the Sunfinity, Yeah, Yeah,
there's Sunfinity. I think there's an another one or two. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
So the only thing about the seed varieties is quite
often those seeds get snatched up pretty quick. Yeah, So
I don't know if I have any left on the
seed wreck right now.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm and I may have a few selections at the
seaking store.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, if you want the taller variety, yeah, yeah, you
have like man.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Myth and so'll grow eight feet tall with a humongous flower.
And then you have the dwarf ones that make really
beautiful bouquets.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And those are sterile. Those don't make seeds, most of those.
But you have a.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Beautiful flower, you can cut them and bring them inside
and enjoy them inside the house.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Great great flower, great cut flower. Gree wonderful. All right,
just take prepare your prepare your garden area.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Uh, smooth it out, place your seeds out. I mean
you don't barely put any soul over the top of that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's not much. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
They sprout fast and uh and they grow fast.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Thank you, welcome care.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And I know from experience that deer like to eat them,
so yeah, well I don't throw them at my house.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm supposed you even have plants at your hands, honestly. Yeah.
They I had a really nice uh BlackBerry and a
seven gallon container which I was I had to teach
my dog not to eat the berries off of it.
But then the deer came and browse the whole thing.
So I've been cracking up.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I went to my parents' house the other day and
they have chickens, and so my mom lets the chickens out,
and I'm picking blackberries eating them because if I'm going
to walk on the lot out in the yard, much
just eat blackberries. And the chickens were just tearing up
the blackberries. I was like, well, I'll be Yeah. So
they used to leave them a lot like I guess
they just never realized they were there. But this one
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rooster is just like, yeah, I'm not going to eat
feet and I'm just going to go eat the berries.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, at my house, the deer would eat lots of things,
but they never touched my citrus. And after about fifteen years,
they discovered that they could eat the satsumas because they
had the loose skin. And so I would walk out
in the backyard and I'd have satsuma skin.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All through the backyard.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
See I had two I had two dogs growing up,
and the lab would rip the sat zuma's off the
tree and the rat tearrier would rip them open.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah. So partnership, Oh yeah, so uh so we talked
about it.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Oh, we're talking about snapshot as a preer merchant. Yeah,
so you know we have continued weed problems in the things.
So if you need to reapply.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, we need to go ahead and get that out. Maultching.
Almost time to refertilize a lot of your annuals.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
One thing I wanted to kind of touch up on
only because I was I was trying to be the
rain Monday or no, was it Tuesday? And uh so
it was spring and my kalinga has just exploded a.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Little tiny nutgrass, isn't it yep? And it puts out
seeds and.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Run run runs, and it is like between that and
Virginia button weed.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You know, Virginia button weed's pretty active. It's time that
you can spray on that. Remember that both kay Linga.
Well what do you spray for you?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Kay lingo?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
So the I used to use what was it Distances
because that was just a overall great little product. Yeah,
it hit your sedges like the more upright sedges, and
I found it didn't It worked better on the kalinga
than it did some of the upright sedges.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, because some of the uprights are usually easier to
control anyway, So it's.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Like it's the same thing with using sedgehammer. Sedgehammer is
great on the bigger stuff, but don't work the greatest
on the kalinka.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Right, Yeah, So it's these chemicals that's oftentimes when people
just call us on the phone, we can't give you
an answer if you don't know exactly what the problem is.
And so if you have problems in the yard and
you don't know what they are exactly, pick up some samples,
put them in a ziplock bag and drive them to
the store so we can look at it. Okay, Quite
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often we get oh, well, here's a picture of it,
and the pictures from six feet away and we can't see.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Let me twin stype you right there, that's only six
feet away.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, but yeah, there's so many subtle differences between some
of these things that you don't realize what we need
to look at to make the distinction. And so these
photographs that are too far away, better to bring in
a piece so that we can actually see it. And
we want you to have success. We don't want to
sell you something that's not going to work. I tell
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people all the time, I want the next time I
see you, I want to see you with a smile
on your face. So I want to know what it
is you have and what I think is going to
work best for you to get the reaction that you
want so that you're happy and so that your problem
has been solved. But if you can't give us the
answer about what you have, we can't give you the answer.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
About what you need.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
So it's almost always better to just bring a piece in,
put it in a ziplock bag.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Just as much information as we can, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Right right, And there are some ways that you're going
to bring in that you're not going to see that
we'd listed on the label on the herberside, because it
costs a lot of money for these companies to put
these names on the labels, and if it's a minor
weed in the broad spectrum of things, they're not going
to spend that money to label it.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So but we might know that it does work for that, like, oh,
that's a broad leaf. Well I know weed free zone, Yeah,
works on almost all broad leaves.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
That's right, but too hot to you'se brought exactly right now,
So so I mean there's different things. Bring in as
much information as you can. Okay, when did it start
going bad? Was it working in a particular pattern, you know,
just you know, just you know, you can't have too
much information.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, not at all, except when someone shows up with
the note pant we won't go there.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, honestly, that'd be probably me. So, but you know,
we were talking, We talked about that. We talked about
you know, weeds coming to pre emergence fertilization. If you're
like as alias for instance, right and uh, I would
recommend probably getting as fertilizer and chameleas.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I did some major pruning on some older azeeas, and
I did some selected pruning to bring down some of
the big stems and fertilized them at that time.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
But it's been i don't know, a month. I'm going
to do another light fertilization.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Multiple light fertilizations usually works better than giant heavy ones.
Too much of a good thing is sometimes not a
good thing, and so you can actually burn some things
if you're not paying attention to what you're doing. So
small application amounts more frequently, or you know, follow the
label directions.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's that's that's gonna be the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
More is not old actually as herbicides, I remember having
a hearted I'm pretty much having a heart attack over uh.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You know, well, I had a buddy of mine help
me on a project.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Got to go off on tangent, but you know he
was like, well I figured, you know, for teaspoons, MSM
was better than and then I'm like, okay, well now
I have to go buy.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Now you're gonna have to yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah, So always always follow the label instruction. And there
are so many people that I know you have the
same thing. Well I just put some in or I
went ahead mixed it heavy, or it's like well.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And that also affects tolerance levels too on things. It does.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It does because a lot of these, let's say, for grasses,
the grasses are not immune to the chemicals that you're
spring on them to get rid of the weeds. The
grasses are tolerant of the chemicals that you're sprying on
them to kill the weeds. And so you can breach
that tolerance level and you can start having collateral damage
on your grass MSM turf. You can only use that
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at half the rate on centipede that you can use
it on Saint Augustine and ensure that you're keeping it healthy.
To bump it up into a higher mix rate. That
is not a good thing. But I know you see
it all the time. I see it all the time.
I can't tell people enough. Look at the labels and
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follow the instructure. They put millions of dollars into researching
these chemicals, and they're putting it in at a level
that where you need.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It to be to function as it's supposed to function.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, but we're back to the body sent in something
to us while we were on air about leaf miners.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They didn't want to call in and talk. But and
I'm a little upset with that because I know her
and she didn't want to call That's all right.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
One time my mama called and gave us a fake name,
like I wouldn't recognize your voice.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
But a lot of people with leaf miners, and like, Hi,
this is Bert. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
But leaf miners they make these and shoes referring to
ones in tomatoes and vegetables, and it makes these little
trails through your leaves and they call them a minor
kind of like a guy that's down a coal miner.
He's making a tunnel through your leaf. He's in between
the top and the bottom, and as he makes this tunnel,
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you can see the tracks because the leaf is thin,
of course.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
And see it reminds me kind of like a like
a like a slugger snail trail.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah, you know he's inside, except it's inside off, it's
inside exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So, uh, they're kind of pesky to get rid of
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, you have to be very very diligent with that
because they lay eggs. It's a flying insect that lays
an egg. So you can spray. You're not getting the
adult usually, but what you're doing you're trying to stop
the egg from hatching and getting inside.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So you have to spray.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, and I believe you talked about a great
product for that earlier.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Again, and that's a product that you have to reapply
after every heavy rainfall.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Right, and then you do need any of these chemicals
that were spraying on our vegetables, there's usually you know,
they'll tell you that the type of fruit, and you know,
sometimes it's hard to find, like tomatoes. Sometimes that's under
fruiting vegetables, since tomatoes a fruit and it'll have a
pH I post harvest interval.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Not always.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Some things you can spray and use, but look to
see that's how many days you're supposed to wait from
when you spray to when you harvest. And I think
at most for spinosa is one day.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, no, I think almost everything on spinosa is it's
a day or three days something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, maybe three days on dry beans. I think that's
what it was, which is we're not really in the
dry bean season yet, but that would be like black
eyed peas and crowder peas and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
But make sure you're paying attention to that. But you
have to spray on a very regular basis. You're trying
to catch the little guy before he buys sin and so, and.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
They'll get on citrus. Yeah, that's a different types. That's
citrus leaf miners sad. Yeah, if you want to spa
too lazy to spray citrus.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
So there's some other products for that, and most people
aren't having That's not the problem they're really having with
their citrus. It's whether the citrus is made or not.
But yeah, but you have to be uh timing. You
have to catch it between when that egg is laid
or it has to be on on site before the
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insect enters into the leaf.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Basically, essentially, it just needs to be active for when
the egg hatches right, and you know it's just it's
a tough thing to catch.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, And where your plants continue to produce, yes they will.
Does it slow them down? If the leaf miners are heavy,
it can.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Slow I've seen, like with the cucumber squash, when they
get I mean there's more of the leaf minor trail
then I think there is actual leaf sometime. And when
it gets that severe, I think it actually it impacts
it some, right, right.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
So you know, uh so what else? So I'm trying
to think of some of the things this past week.
You know, people are still like, oh, can I plant something?
I'd need some pollinators for my vegetable gardens. Still big
Hawaiian heather, yep, maryor golds, but marigolds selection might be
getting a little slim.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I love heather for uh. Heather is just a bee magnet.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
It's a bee magnet and it comes back here after
year and it and it lasts all season. Sometimes marygolds
planted in the spring look tired, you know, after a bit.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It usually just keeps looking good. And that's a neat
little plant. You can you can straight up hedge.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
That right, right, and then even after the winter if
it looks kind of ragged. You kind of just ball
it up and cut the top off about four inches
above the ground, fertilize it, and it comes back to
looking nice and fresh.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
They used to always I would cut it about three inches,
and then you just said it.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Three because I said four.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, I like, and you know, we got to play
different sides, you know, but I would mulch over that
a little bit, just a light mulch. I would do
like a say, super tunias, some kind of winter flowers,
just to kind of mask the area.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Also works really well, and it goes just with the
vegetable garden plant some extra basil and don't prune it,
don't cut it back, let it go to flower mees
love and.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
That's a pretty honestly, that's a pretty baby blue flower.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And you can still harvest off of it.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Just some people when they do basil, they cut almost
like top it. Yeah, but if you do selective pruning,
and then if you're letting it go to flower for
the bees, well you're probably gonna have free basil next
season because it's gonna drop seeds.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
You will find it everywhere, yeah, you will. Yeah, that's
one thing I've been.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I'm always glad is like Basil's just very prolific and
that really just any of your herbs, if you let
it go to seed, chances are you're going to have
more for the next year.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
What else? What what if people have been coming in
talking to you about Vitex text, Oh, I saw you know,
everyone wants to talk about Vitex because they've never seen
it before. And it's like, well, you know they've typically I.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Mean they've been in the landscape for a long time
they have. Especially that was it agnes Castis, Well, that's
the that's the specie.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, just like the typical shoals Creek.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Right, Yeah, that's shoals Creek is the oldest variety that
I know of. But before they had a name variety,
it was just text. Yeah, monks Pepper, same name.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I don't know, but that has just been That is
the greatest little performing small shrug.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I thought that was just a really tall buddle exactly.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No, I mean, so just a because we're running out
of time, I just want to quick now. I planted
one for a customer probably twelve years ago, and then
five years ago she calls me out the blue. I
hadn't done work for a little while, and she uh
wanted to get rid of it, ah and wanted to
just put a high biscus there. And I was like, okay, yeah,
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and so I went and dug cut it to a stump,
dug it up, put it in my parents' house.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
It's gorgeous now and it's like eight foot pristine.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
It grows.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
The form is similar to a cret myrtle structure. It's
got a little uh conical shaped, usually blue tones. There
are some white ones h some some degree of change
in the blue maybe a little lighter, a little darker.
But it's gorgeous. Itch and drop seeds also.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And come up, but Bud, I don't have them come
up very regularly as far as I used to have
something around the parking lot. But I was chuckling at
the Seagin store. I've got one growing in the soldier
blocks of the garden soil.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, so that's that's a beautiful plant. And uh it's
perennial small tree. Good for butterflies. My I have a
neighbor of some property and last year the butterflies were
just everywhere in that bitext.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I found the bees.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I mean go crazy on that, and that looks very
similar to a budli or our butterfly bush, not butterfly
weed for the monarchs, but butterfly bush, which would be
a nectar plant. And we have those in all colors,
pink's whites, blues, purples, no yellows.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
And then the neat thing about them is that they're
about the budlia is that most of the varieties that
are on the market now there's sterile.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
There was there was some concern.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
There was some concern years ago because they're typically the
older varieties just seed everywhere.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Right, and some of the older varieties the harder using
a smaller landscape. Some of them would get eight feet
tall and kind of rangy, and so it was hard.
You'd had to have a big area and kind of
tuck it in. But these I used to have some
pugster in front of the house. I lost them during
the flood. They don't like high water, and I don't
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like high water either. Yeah, but they were nice, compact
two and a half foot tall, two and a half
three foot across, just loaded with color all summer, and
a really good nectar plant for your for your butterflies
as well. So which butterflies are pollinators also, so bees
maybe a little better because they actually catch that pollen
and move around better, but it's still even a wasp.
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People are you know, don't realize how many things are pollinators.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Well, I mean it's interesting with the wasps.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
It's like the only time I spray is if they're
in my you know, in my shit or that.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
But I mean they hit all kinds of I mean,
if you want, if you sit out and watch, yeah,
they'll come through and they'll just hit flowers, They hit
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of neat decent pollinators as well.
So gosh, what else do we have coming on?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
We've got We're gonna we're gonna check our weed rolling
the launch, we're gonna fertilize, We're gonna our bedding plans,
We're going to check on our see if our pre
emergent controllers running out. We're gonna malt if we need
to or we haven't done that, and so, uh, what.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Else do we have come in? Uh? We got to
do all this stuff before he gets hot. That's gonna
be the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Oh yeah, so you got what an hour exactly?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Rain. So zay, it was a pleasure being here. I
was always.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
We've got the iHeartRadio Wjbola on a garden show.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Jeremy posts that soon after the show of that that
given day. So it's great man.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah. Uh Facebook page Alan owings a lot of stuff
on there. Uh got some sun patients today, Yeah, gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I knew rain. We got plenty at all locations.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
We do, all right, And it's always it's a pleasure,
and we'll see you at the nursery, all right, have
a great day, betrouge.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I don't they
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Saturday morning. It is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, we're here at the WJBO on a garden show.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
My name is Zaane Mercer. Good morning, than Scott Rica, Yeah,
good morning Scott. Oh wait, that's exactly you know.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
And Jeremy, Good morning, Jeremy. Thanks for the far side calendar.
You know, that's one of my fas. I would tell
your dog good morning, but she didn't bring him. I
didn't bring him. So it is when nobody's supposed to
know that he comes up here.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's I'm going on.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So anyway, they just think they have somebody on the
weekend that comes in and has beautiful gold hair that shits.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So it is a gorgeous morning.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It really is a beautiful day. Did you get rain
at your house last night?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh did a Yeah? Yeah it wasn't forecast. Yeah, it's
because I jinxed myself. Didn't know Oh it was because
of you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I loaded all those bales of pine straw after hours
in the pouring rain.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I literally I left early to go get my swim
my swim gear to take the kids swimming.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And you didn't have to go to the pool. You
just stood out in the yard. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, it was like, oh, I drove all the
way over here, left early, and then it's raining.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But it might not have been raining at the pool.
It was coming down. Yeah, there was always I was
looking at the I was looking at the radar. It
was pretty pretty horrific. But it's beautiful today. It's beautiful today,
and you don't have to get out in the water
this morning. Nope, Nope, it's a great day to go
pull some weeds. Probably. Oh they'll pull nice and easy today. Yeah, exactly,
(01:57):
as long as you didn't let them go till like
there three feet tall. Yeah exactly. Now, that's the one
thing about weeds, if you stay on it, it doesn't
become a big chore. When you ignore it for a
month and a half, then all you is like, oh
my god, I got to go out and pull those weeds.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
In that time, they probably matured and started putting out seeds.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Probably put out like four rounds of seeds.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, and some of these plants, these single little plants,
can put out thousands of seeds per plant. So if
you want to get control of your weeds, you need
to teach yourself to be consistent for a period of
time and then all of a sudden it becomes easier.
But if you can, if you're going to put out
(02:46):
a pre emergent, you know, get that ready, go out,
get those weeds out, get your pre emergent, get your mulch,
do your beds, and then after that point just stay
on top of it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
If the game is to.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Keep your new emerging weeds from getting mature enough to
put out more seeds, and that's how you win the game.
It's not a bad game, but you have to teach
yourself to be consistent. Otherwise it zero is the game
and you have to start over. You know, every time
there's some things like chamber bitter for instance.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Oh yeah, where it's like two inches tall, it's starting
to put on seeds, right, But the second I see
that leaf structure, that's.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right, because that's the one to tell yeah, I gotta
I gotta go out there. And pull.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You know, at my house, I've got that little retaining wall.
Sometimes I just put one hand or lean over and
I just like start picking. But I might only pick
ten minutes before I go inside. Yeah, but that area
is clear.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, and that's a whole batch of seeds and it's
not going to put out more seeds, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And that area used to be horrible, I mean like
horrible with chamber bitter. Yeah, and now it's yeah, very
very manageable, very minimal.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You know, when speaking to chamber better, there's a we
can We actually carry a few products that's grated as
a pre emergent goes to keep from coming up.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So what do you think is the number one one
of the prines in the gold Yeah, honestly, that's the
same thing as snapshot.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, pretty much, it's on. I think it's missing one
active ingredient. Maybe not one, yeah, but you know it's
just that azoxaban as the active ingredient, which we carry
that by itself in Gallery as.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, which is the furdloan.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Broad leaf broad leaf weed control with the gallery, that's.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Right, that is and Gallery is the same thing as portrait,
and that is the chemical that we can actually use
in September October as a pre emergent for stickers. Yep,
So if you don't want to go out in hand
spray in January or whatever, not not waiting until you
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feel the sticker in your foot because then.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It will work.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But that that's a pretty good control if you put it.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But you have to put it.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's a pre emergent, and a lot of times that's
spur weeds, stickers whatever you want to call it, burwed
sprouse in October. Sometimes it starts sprouting in September. You
have to get it out before. It's a great product.
But nobody really knows about it, No, No.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I mean it at our like on our shelf. You know,
we've got forty different creams. You know, there's like quite
a right wide range of pre emergence. And then this
little bag on the left.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Right, you know, so what else do you like for
chamber bitterer? So chamber bitterer kind of looks like mimosa. Yeah,
and people say that all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I usually, uh, I usually have a bag of snapshot,
so because that's what I used to use.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Not your house for a customer, but for a customer. Yeah,
you have you have all that knowledge that our customer
got control. Yes, that's the one in the gold.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, and that still covers I think it's eight hundred
square feet yeah, which is pretty deep. And honestly, I
think I feel like that's the best of the prems.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, you know, just having results right and snapshot and
I think it's actually the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Oh, we'll have to check when we get to it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
But that is more a professional grade, which is why
that's what you have sitting at your house. Well, you
being the nursery and landscape professional that you are.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It covers. I mean it covers like thirty thousand square feet.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yea for the bad so there's nothing sprouting on top
of the house, right, you can cover the whole yard.
I could yeah, yeah, like the whole property. Do we
have phones here where people could call in?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I sure, hope so, and you could reach us at
four nine nine six.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Aren't you glad to have that thing posted right there?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I like, how y'all just keep stapling fresher copies on
top instead of just replacing them?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, no, it keeps it standing up. It's just a
piece of paper. So but yeah, if you don't want
it to call. It's four nine nine nine five six.
We'd love to hear some questions, calls, concerns.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, I still have some blank spots in my front yard,
in my flower beds, but you know, it's really pretty.
I have some choreopsis that came back from last year.
I've got some beautiful blue I think it. I think
it was Mystic. Maybe I don't remember which blue Salvey
it was, but I've got beautiful blue Salvey's Estra leda.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
My Estra lead is awesome. Yeah, yeah, I have some.
Did you get the coral one or the roost? No,
it was a red one.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, and then I had some problems with it last year,
but it's coming back really strong. It might have been
because maybe I wasn't watering when it needed it, but
you know, uh but no.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's a neat little yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I mean, it's a pretty much a groundcover, so it stays,
so it hugs the ground.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
But it's good for hummingbird. That's why I put it.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I run the mower over that section where I have mine,
uh huh, and then it just comes back up.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So I've got you run the mower over during the winter.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
During the winter, of course, so I'm one to mulish
my perennial bed pretty well, and then I just let
everything come back out.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, and then yeah, and you know when you drive
in my drive, I've got to Craig murtles on the side.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's a big blank spot there. I've had some other things.
I think I'm gonna, well, we have so many now
sitting on table. I'm gonna put some sun patients there.
I've got just a perfect light, you know, I've got
long and it's they're so bright. I just I think
I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, hold that thought on the sun patients, all right,
because we're going to talk about that on the next segment. Okay,
it looks like we've got Donald beeping in, so let
me go ahead and get to him. Donald, Good morning,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Good morning? Good morning. I'm doing well.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Cucumber beetles, Man, them things are like not there one
day and the next day I got more than the
US depisite. It's almost like that many out there.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, they are pain Yeah, they're a little difficult. A
lot of beetles are difficult to control because they have
that nice hard protective armor around them.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So, yeah, what have you tried already?
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well, last year, I used uh prithion.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Seven uh parareth Yeah, yeah, but I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I wanted to use something milder, if there is anything milder,
because I'm trying to deter and killing my pollinators because
I don't have very many and like last year, I
had very low production because I didn't have a lot
of pollinators. This is only my second year with my garden.
But now this year, everything's doing really well, and uh,
(09:35):
I just was trying to avoid killing them.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well some things.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Some things is One thing would be timing of your spray.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
A lot of your pollinators much more active early, so
if you wait till near the end of the day,
it's not as bad. Okay, But uh I might try
some spinosad.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Uh huh. That usually works fairly well.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, and that's a that's a product we would just
reapply after a heavy rainfall. Yeah, because it's gotta essentially
just drives and sits on the on the foliage so
when they when they come and feed on.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, that's that's an ingestion type thing. So it's not
it's not like your pyrethrum was a contact and it
had a hard shell blocking that contact, right, right, but
try the work on your caterpillars. It's called spinosaid S
P I N O S A D.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Okay, all right, that's good.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's what I need to know.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, and it's uh it's something yeah that's elicted organic.
It can control a lot of things in different formulations.
They even use it as an ant control in your
vegetable garden, which is there's not a whole lot of
things for that, so uh so, really really good product.
You can't just spray the ground with your liquid for
ant control. We they they take it, they mix it
(11:03):
in a vegetable oil, then they spray it on corn meal,
so the ant actually thinks his food and picks it
up and brings it down into the into the colony.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So spraying the ground is pointless for that. So just
you know, all right, thank you very much. I have
a great one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't particularly care for cucumber beetles like cucumbers, but.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I do remember one time seeing it posted in the
bat and Rouge newspaper, a beautiful picture of that green
thing that kind of looks like a ladybug, and underneath
the caption said this male ladybug. Male ladybugs are still
red with dots. So yeah, so a cucumber beetles a
little more elongated green with dots. Males and a female,
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but they are not male lady thugs.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I forget what it was one year that I was
kind of confused because I thought they'd I mean cucumbers
in the name. Yeah, then he just stay with I
think it was Japanese Magnoia's or something something. Oh, yeah,
they need all kinds, you know that. I was like,
y'all need to stay away from these. So good luck
for that. But anyway, my name is Zane Mercer. Joined
here with still Scott Ricca. Yep, we're with Clegg's Nursery. Yep,
(12:17):
case you did, in case you don't know, and.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We're here for the WJBO Long Garden Show, which you
can listen to any recorded podcasts on the iHeartRadio program.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, and Jeremy does a great job in the description
actually saying what we talk about.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, he does, so you can kind of go back
and nitpicked through if you're trying to find.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He really goes that extra mile. Of course, he's been
doing it for years. It's the only reason that we sound,
you know, halfway decent exactly. So and then we.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Also have our Facebook pages that you can go to
h and quite often Alan Owings is here in the
studio with us.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
He's the one that does all that with us.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And he does focus on certain plants here and there
that are timely or different things that you might.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Think about heavily for your your garden or law in
a garden for things that are timely.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So speaking of garden, yeah, uh, you know, you talked
about you're gonna leave space for sun patients.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I'm not leaving this fit. The space is there. I
got I got a big spot. It's uh, you know.
And the sun patients they're just an easier to grow plant.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's there.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
There are type of impatients, but you know, the impatients
that most people know. I've always been thought of as
a as a shade plant. But these sun patients are
some that are bred. If you had ever remember the
New Guinea patients, they look like New Guinea and patients
because they're bred from those, but they're much more sun tolerant.
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They can take so much sun and they've done a
lot of refinement over the last number of years, and
they have these compact varieties that are just they're more
like almost more like little shrubs almost than just betting plans.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And see, I'm not big like at least the older
ones like the new guineas, and.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
New Guineas to me had issues they would rot right, uh.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And I'm not big on impatients typically because they they
get so leggy.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh, I used to well some of the brides I
used to like, you know, there's been a lot impatients
are not as available as they used to be because
of down in mildew problems and such in many of
the not too long ago has almost devastated a lot
of that industry for those. And there's ones out now
that they've done breeding and disease resistance and such, but
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the selection is not what it used to be. So,
but they used to have super elphins that would stay
low in full they didn't get leggy, but you don't
you probably never even so.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But those were gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But I just know that, you know, when I and
I did much more maintenance in installation, it was like
if I planted in patients, it was like a return
trip for me to have to cut back, yeah, trim up.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
But the sun patients that the newer ones are more compact.
Some of the first sun Patients they grow two and
a half three feet tall.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, the compacts are eighteen twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Inches and I mean they're intense color. Some of them
even have variegated foliage. But the flowers are big, they're
up on top of the plant, you know, they're they're
they're vigorous, they're strong, and they don't even really take
much food. They're a low nutrient requirement plant. So give
them a little furtilizer to get gold.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
And honestly, there's so much range in the colors that
there's a color for really any color scheme.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, your flowers. The flower is bigger than a silver dollar.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, oh definitely. I mean there's whites, pinks, lavenders, reds.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, they're by colors where I like that orange. Yeah
that's hot. Yeah, it's a really nice hot.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Come because it's just mean you see it from the street. Yeah,
you know, and it's kind of neat. What was it
a we were talking before the show. Was it Takata
seed yep? Who out of Japan? Yeah, who came up
with the original sun patient cultivar.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yes, you know it's now that's like over thirty yeah,
thirty different varieties and those might include some of the
tall ones, but as well as the compact.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And we typically just grow more of the herself, more
of the compact one.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Well, I don't think that really the tall ones are
that much more available, and most people that's those big
ones are too big.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, so it's been several years.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Want something that stays nice, tight, gives you color throughout
the whole year.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Uh, it's a great plant to just put if you
have a plant, if you're doing a little planter, I
mean you drop one of those in there, drop a
character grass to give it kind of a little whimsical contrast.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And it's just a man.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
They make a show, right, And it's of course the
name Sun patients. You know, it can take so much
more sun than a standard and patient.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
And I found if there if you plan in too
much shade, they don't bloom as well.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
They don't bloom as well, and they'll get a little leggy.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, so they need at least at least a few
hours of light.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I found like light light, yeah, you know. And then
I mean I've seen him in full sun too all day.
So it was just a great little plant. It was
an L s U plant, super plant plant.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So I think Alan is going to have something about
that on a Facebook page if I didn't already mentioned.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So, see, I went down a rabbit hole when I
was reading an article he posted or he wrote like
things like ten years ago, twelve years ago on sun
patients the other day, you know, because I.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Was just like, I was bored at the house. So
that's what I do. So but uh, you know, we see.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, so you getting a lot of weed controlled, you know.
And a lot of people been in buying the blueberries
and blackberries at the Greendals Springs. I don't know if
there was something posted, but man, the BlackBerry verige were
just just flying out the door.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I can transfer you some.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I might need some, Yeah, and then the blueberries are
starting to get ripe, and that's an easy home fruit.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I've been really happy with our color division selection of blackberries.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah. What's that new and taste of heaven? Yeah, I
hadn't tried that. I hadn't tried it, and it doesn't
have any fruit on it, but it sure grows. I'm
gonna I've gotta put one of those in. That's a
new property.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, we've got so we have and we grew them
this year, the Traveler and the Freedom. But I've got
both of those at my folks house and those have
been doing, I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Doing pretty well too. That's like thumb size. Traveler is
not as vigorous as the Freedom is.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
And the full name is Prime Arc Freedom, So if
it might a little confusion.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, And I don't know about the qutie pie one.
Jerry's out on that one, all right. I don't know
if it's a small very big berry, but we'll see.
But no, it's just I've been happy with those that
we've gotten in because I mean they're just yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And you can still plant those now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
If you're doing peaches and things, I might, you know,
hold up till fall for peach. If I had citrus,
if I wanted to plant citrus, I'd go ahead and
get it in now, because that way i'd have a
whole season's worth of growth in the ground before the
freeze comes. And still if it's a bad freeze next year,
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I mean it's still small enough you can take a
garbage can put over top of.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It, yeah, just to kind of protect it.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Obviously this last winter was pretty severe.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I pulled out the chainsaw Wednesday and I took down the.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
My blood orange.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Now I'd mentioned on a different show how after the
they started to flush out that.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
The ambrosia on a different show, you go on another No, no,
this show, all right, it's just making sure.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, so the ambrosia beetles had gotten on it.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
All the new growth that was higher up on the
scaffold branch all collapse, but down close to the graft,
and my rootstock is probably about sixteen or eighteen inches across.
I mean this tree was huge, and down within the
bottom ten inches, I was having follower's coming up, you know,
the fruit bearing folis. So I left a little bush
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and then I selected some of those branches out, so
I think I'm going to leave it in the ground.
See what happens. I did the same thing to the
hamling orange. And then the sassume has had some growth
higher up, and those are that didn't surprise me so
much since they are a bit more cold hearty. But
one of them I need to get my pole saw
(20:44):
to work on it properly. But yeah, I finally started
cutting them back, and yeah, I was said when I
did my satsuma. Yeah, people are still coming in asking
if they're you know they're citrus are dead or not,
but and a lot of them the rootstock is growing
up up, and the easiest way to tell because when
you buy a citrus, well, now, sometimes you can buy
(21:06):
lemons that are not grafted through some I've seen some
Intown and some other retailers, but typically what you would
buy is a grafted fruit. And grafted you're taking two
different types of citrus, one that grows a good root
and one that grows a good fruit, and they splice
those or graft those together, usually fairly close to the ground,
(21:29):
within usually about six inches, and that way you have
a more vigorous root to push a more vigorous fruit
bearing portion. Well, the leaves don't look the same, so
off of the rootstock, you'll have a three lobe or
three petal leaf, kind of like a clover exactly, but
(21:50):
like a cloth.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I find it looks more like just a bird's foot, yeah,
or bird's foot, but three three lobes where the fruit
bearing usually is a single leaf with a single point
on the end.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And that's how you can tell the difference.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
If all you have is that bird's foot leaf, then
all you have is rootstock, and that will never produce
a desirable fruit. And so you can do one of
two things. You can go ahead and rip it out. Well,
you can do three things. You can rip it out.
You can leave it as an impenetrable shrub because it
will have thorns and you'll never want to go through it.
(22:27):
Or you can try to graft onto it again and
try to make it turn back into a productive fruit
bearing plant for your yard.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
So it's about time. If you haven't pruned, you need
to go ahead and prune.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You need to make You need to go out, figure
out what the leaves are and what you're going to do.
You can, like me, mine are coming out low to
the ground. I'm just gonna let it reform and in
all and the reality of it is, you've got a
giant root system already there. If you have some fruit bearing,
good fruit bearing growth left, it will probably grow like
(23:05):
a race car.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean, it's gonna grow much faster, right, because it's
already got the ripping it out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yes, it's already got all those roots out there and
bringing all those nutrients in.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
You know it's gonna grow fast. And so will you
have fruit next year? No, Well you shouldn't because your
plant's gonna be too flimsy, but you know, good winter
next year, fruit the next The.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Only thing I found with that is you just got
to stay on top of preventing suckers.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Like yeah, so I had like ten, Well, I went,
I took my pocket knife and I selected. I left
three on that big one and then I'm probably going
to knock that down to one. But you know, you
know mine is the diamer so large I've got. And
you know, there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Wrong with having a citrus bush versus a citrus tree.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
No, no, no, all, I mean you're still there's the
exact same thing. That's you know, you got to pick
the fruit right So here with Scott Ricker last time
much yeah, both of us, both of them exactly.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Hey, good morning, thanks for taking my toll.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Absolutely. Can I still have some time to get some
sort of sunflowers in the ground about easy, easy that
that plane will shoot up. Do I need to do
seeds or plants?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well, it depends on what kind of sun flowers you're
looking for. So the typical sun flower that we think
of with a stalk flower on the top, whether it
be the ones that grow eight feet tall or some
of the dwarf ones that might hit three and a
half four foot. Those you could locate and sew from
(24:51):
seeds and they grow very easily.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But there are some new sunflowers saying, so there's some.
I think it's proven winter it does.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
They do use like tissue culture sunflowers, if you're not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Right, But they're bush style, yeah, and they the ones
I was talking about. Typically you have one prime flower yep,
and then not much else after that. No, so you
could actually plant over and over and over again, like
every three weeks. You can plant a few more seeds,
and then your flowers will come in three weeks apart
from each other basically, and you can have some to
harvest to bring inside while still having someone in the
(25:25):
yard to keep coming exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But yours, yeah, one you're talking in a bush form.
Those will just kind of keep on putting out flowers.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And yeah, so we had one of those. Is the Sunfinity, Yeah, Yeah,
there's Sunfinity. I think there's an another one or two. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
So the only thing about the seed varieties is quite
often those seeds get snatched up pretty quick. Yeah, So
I don't know if I have any left on the
seed wreck right now.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm and I may have a few selections at the
seaking store.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, if you want the taller variety, yeah, yeah, you
have like man.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Myth and so'll grow eight feet tall with a humongous flower.
And then you have the dwarf ones that make really
beautiful bouquets.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And those are sterile. Those don't make seeds, most of those.
But you have a.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Beautiful flower, you can cut them and bring them inside
and enjoy them inside the house.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Great great flower, great cut flower. Gree wonderful. All right,
just take prepare your prepare your garden area.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Uh, smooth it out, place your seeds out. I mean
you don't barely put any soul over the top of that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's not much. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
They sprout fast and uh and they grow fast.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Thank you, welcome care.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And I know from experience that deer like to eat them,
so yeah, well I don't throw them at my house.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm supposed you even have plants at your hands, honestly. Yeah.
They I had a really nice uh BlackBerry and a
seven gallon container which I was I had to teach
my dog not to eat the berries off of it.
But then the deer came and browse the whole thing.
So I've been cracking up.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I went to my parents' house the other day and
they have chickens, and so my mom lets the chickens out,
and I'm picking blackberries eating them because if I'm going
to walk on the lot out in the yard, much
just eat blackberries. And the chickens were just tearing up
the blackberries. I was like, well, I'll be Yeah. So
they used to leave them a lot like I guess
they just never realized they were there. But this one
(27:24):
rooster is just like, yeah, I'm not going to eat
feet and I'm just going to go eat the berries.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, at my house, the deer would eat lots of things,
but they never touched my citrus. And after about fifteen years,
they discovered that they could eat the satsumas because they
had the loose skin. And so I would walk out
in the backyard and I'd have satsuma skin.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All through the backyard.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
See I had two I had two dogs growing up,
and the lab would rip the sat zuma's off the
tree and the rat tearrier would rip them open.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah. So partnership, Oh yeah, so uh so we talked
about it.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Oh, we're talking about snapshot as a preer merchant. Yeah,
so you know we have continued weed problems in the things.
So if you need to reapply.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, we need to go ahead and get that out. Maultching.
Almost time to refertilize a lot of your annuals.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
One thing I wanted to kind of touch up on
only because I was I was trying to be the
rain Monday or no, was it Tuesday? And uh so
it was spring and my kalinga has just exploded a.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Little tiny nutgrass, isn't it yep? And it puts out
seeds and.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Run run runs, and it is like between that and
Virginia button weed.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You know, Virginia button weed's pretty active. It's time that
you can spray on that. Remember that both kay Linga.
Well what do you spray for you?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Kay lingo?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
So the I used to use what was it Distances
because that was just a overall great little product. Yeah,
it hit your sedges like the more upright sedges, and
I found it didn't It worked better on the kalinga
than it did some of the upright sedges.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, because some of the uprights are usually easier to
control anyway, So it's.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Like it's the same thing with using sedgehammer. Sedgehammer is
great on the bigger stuff, but don't work the greatest
on the kalinka.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Right, Yeah, So it's these chemicals that's oftentimes when people
just call us on the phone, we can't give you
an answer if you don't know exactly what the problem is.
And so if you have problems in the yard and
you don't know what they are exactly, pick up some samples,
put them in a ziplock bag and drive them to
the store so we can look at it. Okay, Quite
(29:41):
often we get oh, well, here's a picture of it,
and the pictures from six feet away and we can't see.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Let me twin stype you right there, that's only six
feet away.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, but yeah, there's so many subtle differences between some
of these things that you don't realize what we need
to look at to make the distinction. And so these
photographs that are too far away, better to bring in
a piece so that we can actually see it. And
we want you to have success. We don't want to
sell you something that's not going to work. I tell
(30:16):
people all the time, I want the next time I
see you, I want to see you with a smile
on your face. So I want to know what it
is you have and what I think is going to
work best for you to get the reaction that you
want so that you're happy and so that your problem
has been solved. But if you can't give us the
answer about what you have, we can't give you the answer.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
About what you need.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
So it's almost always better to just bring a piece in,
put it in a ziplock bag.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Just as much information as we can, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Right right, And there are some ways that you're going
to bring in that you're not going to see that
we'd listed on the label on the herberside, because it
costs a lot of money for these companies to put
these names on the labels, and if it's a minor
weed in the broad spectrum of things, they're not going
to spend that money to label it.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So but we might know that it does work for that, like, oh,
that's a broad leaf. Well I know weed free zone, Yeah,
works on almost all broad leaves.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
That's right, but too hot to you'se brought exactly right now,
So so I mean there's different things. Bring in as
much information as you can. Okay, when did it start
going bad? Was it working in a particular pattern, you know,
just you know, just you know, you can't have too
much information.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, not at all, except when someone shows up with
the note pant we won't go there.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, honestly, that'd be probably me. So, but you know,
we were talking, We talked about that. We talked about
you know, weeds coming to pre emergence fertilization. If you're
like as alias for instance, right and uh, I would
recommend probably getting as fertilizer and chameleas.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I did some major pruning on some older azeeas, and
I did some selected pruning to bring down some of
the big stems and fertilized them at that time.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
But it's been i don't know, a month. I'm going
to do another light fertilization.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Multiple light fertilizations usually works better than giant heavy ones.
Too much of a good thing is sometimes not a
good thing, and so you can actually burn some things
if you're not paying attention to what you're doing. So
small application amounts more frequently, or you know, follow the
label directions.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's that's that's gonna be the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
More is not old actually as herbicides, I remember having
a hearted I'm pretty much having a heart attack over uh.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You know, well, I had a buddy of mine help
me on a project.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Got to go off on tangent, but you know he
was like, well I figured, you know, for teaspoons, MSM
was better than and then I'm like, okay, well now
I have to go buy.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Now you're gonna have to yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah, So always always follow the label instruction. And there
are so many people that I know you have the
same thing. Well I just put some in or I
went ahead mixed it heavy, or it's like well.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And that also affects tolerance levels too on things. It does.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It does because a lot of these, let's say, for grasses,
the grasses are not immune to the chemicals that you're
spring on them to get rid of the weeds. The
grasses are tolerant of the chemicals that you're sprying on
them to kill the weeds. And so you can breach
that tolerance level and you can start having collateral damage
on your grass MSM turf. You can only use that
(33:52):
at half the rate on centipede that you can use
it on Saint Augustine and ensure that you're keeping it healthy.
To bump it up into a higher mix rate. That
is not a good thing. But I know you see
it all the time. I see it all the time.
I can't tell people enough. Look at the labels and
(34:16):
follow the instructure. They put millions of dollars into researching
these chemicals, and they're putting it in at a level
that where you need.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It to be to function as it's supposed to function.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, but we're back to the body sent in something
to us while we were on air about leaf miners.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They didn't want to call in and talk. But and
I'm a little upset with that because I know her
and she didn't want to call That's all right.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
One time my mama called and gave us a fake name,
like I wouldn't recognize your voice.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
But a lot of people with leaf miners, and like, Hi,
this is Bert. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
But leaf miners they make these and shoes referring to
ones in tomatoes and vegetables, and it makes these little
trails through your leaves and they call them a minor
kind of like a guy that's down a coal miner.
He's making a tunnel through your leaf. He's in between
the top and the bottom, and as he makes this tunnel,
(35:20):
you can see the tracks because the leaf is thin,
of course.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
And see it reminds me kind of like a like
a like a slugger snail trail.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah, you know he's inside, except it's inside off, it's
inside exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So, uh, they're kind of pesky to get rid of
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, you have to be very very diligent with that
because they lay eggs. It's a flying insect that lays
an egg. So you can spray. You're not getting the
adult usually, but what you're doing you're trying to stop
the egg from hatching and getting inside.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So you have to spray.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, and I believe you talked about a great
product for that earlier.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Again, and that's a product that you have to reapply
after every heavy rainfall.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Right, and then you do need any of these chemicals
that were spraying on our vegetables, there's usually you know,
they'll tell you that the type of fruit, and you know,
sometimes it's hard to find, like tomatoes. Sometimes that's under
fruiting vegetables, since tomatoes a fruit and it'll have a
pH I post harvest interval.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Not always.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Some things you can spray and use, but look to
see that's how many days you're supposed to wait from
when you spray to when you harvest. And I think
at most for spinosa is one day.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, no, I think almost everything on spinosa is it's
a day or three days something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, maybe three days on dry beans. I think that's
what it was, which is we're not really in the
dry bean season yet, but that would be like black
eyed peas and crowder peas and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
But make sure you're paying attention to that. But you
have to spray on a very regular basis. You're trying
to catch the little guy before he buys sin and so, and.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
They'll get on citrus. Yeah, that's a different types. That's
citrus leaf miners sad. Yeah, if you want to spa
too lazy to spray citrus.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
So there's some other products for that, and most people
aren't having That's not the problem they're really having with
their citrus. It's whether the citrus is made or not.
But yeah, but you have to be uh timing. You
have to catch it between when that egg is laid
or it has to be on on site before the
(37:35):
insect enters into the leaf.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Basically, essentially, it just needs to be active for when
the egg hatches right, and you know it's just it's
a tough thing to catch.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, And where your plants continue to produce, yes they will.
Does it slow them down? If the leaf miners are heavy,
it can.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Slow I've seen, like with the cucumber squash, when they
get I mean there's more of the leaf minor trail
then I think there is actual leaf sometime. And when
it gets that severe, I think it actually it impacts
it some, right, right.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
So you know, uh so what else? So I'm trying
to think of some of the things this past week.
You know, people are still like, oh, can I plant something?
I'd need some pollinators for my vegetable gardens. Still big
Hawaiian heather, yep, maryor golds, but marigolds selection might be
getting a little slim.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I love heather for uh. Heather is just a bee magnet.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
It's a bee magnet and it comes back here after
year and it and it lasts all season. Sometimes marygolds
planted in the spring look tired, you know, after a bit.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It usually just keeps looking good. And that's a neat
little plant. You can you can straight up hedge.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
That right, right, and then even after the winter if
it looks kind of ragged. You kind of just ball
it up and cut the top off about four inches
above the ground, fertilize it, and it comes back to
looking nice and fresh.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
They used to always I would cut it about three inches,
and then you just said it.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Three because I said four.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, I like, and you know, we got to play
different sides, you know, but I would mulch over that
a little bit, just a light mulch. I would do
like a say, super tunias, some kind of winter flowers,
just to kind of mask the area.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Also works really well, and it goes just with the
vegetable garden plant some extra basil and don't prune it,
don't cut it back, let it go to flower mees
love and.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
That's a pretty honestly, that's a pretty baby blue flower.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And you can still harvest off of it.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Just some people when they do basil, they cut almost
like top it. Yeah, but if you do selective pruning,
and then if you're letting it go to flower for
the bees, well you're probably gonna have free basil next
season because it's gonna drop seeds.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
You will find it everywhere, yeah, you will. Yeah, that's
one thing I've been.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I'm always glad is like Basil's just very prolific and
that really just any of your herbs, if you let
it go to seed, chances are you're going to have
more for the next year.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
What else? What what if people have been coming in
talking to you about Vitex text, Oh, I saw you know,
everyone wants to talk about Vitex because they've never seen
it before. And it's like, well, you know they've typically I.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Mean they've been in the landscape for a long time
they have. Especially that was it agnes Castis, Well, that's
the that's the specie.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, just like the typical shoals Creek.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Right, Yeah, that's shoals Creek is the oldest variety that
I know of. But before they had a name variety,
it was just text. Yeah, monks Pepper, same name.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I don't know, but that has just been That is
the greatest little performing small shrug.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I thought that was just a really tall buddle exactly.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No, I mean, so just a because we're running out
of time, I just want to quick now. I planted
one for a customer probably twelve years ago, and then
five years ago she calls me out the blue. I
hadn't done work for a little while, and she uh
wanted to get rid of it, ah and wanted to
just put a high biscus there. And I was like, okay, yeah,
(41:12):
and so I went and dug cut it to a stump,
dug it up, put it in my parents' house.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
It's gorgeous now and it's like eight foot pristine.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
It grows.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
The form is similar to a cret myrtle structure. It's
got a little uh conical shaped, usually blue tones. There
are some white ones h some some degree of change
in the blue maybe a little lighter, a little darker.
But it's gorgeous. Itch and drop seeds also.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And come up, but Bud, I don't have them come
up very regularly as far as I used to have
something around the parking lot. But I was chuckling at
the Seagin store. I've got one growing in the soldier
blocks of the garden soil.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, so that's that's a beautiful plant. And uh it's
perennial small tree. Good for butterflies. My I have a
neighbor of some property and last year the butterflies were
just everywhere in that bitext.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I found the bees.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I mean go crazy on that, and that looks very
similar to a budli or our butterfly bush, not butterfly
weed for the monarchs, but butterfly bush, which would be
a nectar plant. And we have those in all colors,
pink's whites, blues, purples, no yellows.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
And then the neat thing about them is that they're
about the budlia is that most of the varieties that
are on the market now there's sterile.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
There was there was some concern.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
There was some concern years ago because they're typically the
older varieties just seed everywhere.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Right, and some of the older varieties the harder using
a smaller landscape. Some of them would get eight feet
tall and kind of rangy, and so it was hard.
You'd had to have a big area and kind of
tuck it in. But these I used to have some
pugster in front of the house. I lost them during
the flood. They don't like high water, and I don't
(43:09):
like high water either. Yeah, but they were nice, compact
two and a half foot tall, two and a half
three foot across, just loaded with color all summer, and
a really good nectar plant for your for your butterflies
as well. So which butterflies are pollinators also, so bees
maybe a little better because they actually catch that pollen
and move around better, but it's still even a wasp.
(43:31):
People are you know, don't realize how many things are pollinators.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Well, I mean it's interesting with the wasps.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
It's like the only time I spray is if they're
in my you know, in my shit or that.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
But I mean they hit all kinds of I mean,
if you want, if you sit out and watch, yeah,
they'll come through and they'll just hit flowers, They hit
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of neat decent pollinators as well.
So gosh, what else do we have coming on?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
We've got We're gonna we're gonna check our weed rolling
the launch, we're gonna fertilize, We're gonna our bedding plans,
We're going to check on our see if our pre
emergent controllers running out. We're gonna malt if we need
to or we haven't done that, and so, uh, what.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Else do we have come in? Uh? We got to
do all this stuff before he gets hot. That's gonna
be the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Oh yeah, so you got what an hour exactly?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Rain. So zay, it was a pleasure being here. I
was always.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
We've got the iHeartRadio Wjbola on a garden show.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Jeremy posts that soon after the show of that that
given day. So it's great man.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah. Uh Facebook page Alan owings a lot of stuff
on there. Uh got some sun patients today, Yeah, gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I knew rain. We got plenty at all locations.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
We do, all right, And it's always it's a pleasure,
and we'll see you at the nursery, all right, have
a great day, betrouge.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
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