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October 4, 2025 • 39 mins
It's Fall Y'all (and about dang time!) this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Butch, first-time host Kat and intern-in-training Caroline from Clegg's Nursery!
We cover a lot of ground this week - from what plants to look for when you want to attract butterflies and hummingbirds, if you should fertilize right now, the best time to plant strawberries, tips for planting carrots and more!
Also - your questions on dealing with Virginia buttonweed, best potting soil, whether or not it's time to use MSM turf, the best time to plant spring bulbs, and best rodent deterrents!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
And good morning, Baton Rouge and welcome to news radio
eleven to fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name
is Butch Drews. I have two very special guests with
me today. Versus Kat. Good morning, Cat.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Kat is a vital cog in the Segan Lane Klegg's machine.
She is in the Betting plant House, does an excellent job.
Actually I went. Before I left, I was kind of
in charge of the Betting plant House and it looks
so much better now. So anyway, and.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Also since you took up her right, since you did it.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, since I left with me? Is the intern in
training Miss Caroline? Good morning, good morning. Uh, for those
of you that are interested, negotiations with the intern have
completely broken down, So until further notice, I think we
will have the intern in training with us. Is that

(01:17):
okay with you? Caroline?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
All right, so we have a lot going on this morning.
Give us a call for six steps four nine nine
w JBO get you put smack dab on top of
our list. Do you have anything you want to say?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Caroline, Miss kat did you work with my poppy?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yes? I did. I had the pleasure of working with
your poppy.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I'm sorry for you just to think I have him
as a as a poppy?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Why do I Why do I put up with this?
It's just it's not right anyway. For those of you
that do want to happen here, well I shouldn't say
that because nobody will call in. But though there is
a lot going on right now in the lawn of
garden business, anything new and exciting at Clegg's Cat it's fall.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's fall, y'all we've got it's.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
About dang time.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
All the colors. Yeah, it's all there.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So see, I was I was pleased yesterday. I was
able to get out in the morning. I had a
few things to do Eron's first thing in the morning,
but I got home about nine thirty ten o'clock and
I was actually able to work out in the yard
for a couple hours. And right afternoon it just the
switch kind of flipped. Okay, it's hot now, but it

(02:30):
was kind of nice in this morning. It's real nice out.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
There, very nice this morning.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
So my suggestion to you is in radio land is
to grab your favorite morning beverage, grab your cellphone, head
out in the yard, walk around. If you see something
you're curious about, give us a call four six that
would be four nine nine WJBO, and we'll try our
best to answer the questions. Probably won't be able to,
but we'll give it a shot. Did you have a question,

(02:58):
Anna Claire.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Carolina's gonna say, She's like, excuse me to.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Me to play the music against I think you might
need to. Is this a tape show where we can
start over?

Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't see any hummingbirds anymore? What's up?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
What's up with that?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, there are hummingbirds out there right now during the
spring summer, and even to some extent now, most of
the hummingbirds you see out there are going to be
ruby throwed hummingbirds. That's our summer resident here. And actually
what they do is they fly. We're part of their

(03:40):
migration trail. They come through Baton Rouge and go up
the east coast and during the winter, they come back
through Baton Rouge head down the Texas coast back into Mexico.
That's why we have a peak of activity normally late August,
maybe early September, depends upon when they're actually doing the migration.

(04:01):
So those are pretty much moved through now, so we
don't have a lot of activity. But what's really cool, Caroline,
is a lot of the western hummingbirds actually migrate east.
So in fact, you're Mimi and I have a male
Rufus hummingbird at our house right now. And what's really
cool about those is there a The male is a

(04:23):
real bright copper color. He stands out really well, and
there's several other there's a broad tail black chin are
actually very common winter residents for us. So what I said,
what we suggest to people do is take your humming
If you have numerous hummingbird feeders, maybe take a few down,

(04:46):
maybe leave one or two up, and don't fill them
as much as you do during especially during the migration
periods or when the ruby throats are here, and you
will get winter hummingbirds. Actually, when we were at Naylor's,
we have had a very unusual sighting. We had Anna's hummingbird,
which is very rare to be. In fact, I think
it was. It was in a single digits number of

(05:08):
times it's been reported in Louisiana at that point. But yes,
there are still hummingbirds here, we just don't have quite
as many. And the one thing, and Cat's gonna jump
on this soapbox with me. I have a feeling the
best thing you can do for hummingbirds and so many
people and I love this. Hummingbirds also love butterflies. So

(05:31):
it's plant plant plants for them. Is that? Did I
say that correctly? Plant plants? So yeah, that's the most
important thing is to try and get an environment for them.
So all right, well, I'll tell you what we need.
We actually have a caller. See they're calling in because
you're here, Kat. We never get we never get callers

(05:52):
this quickly. Good morning, Peter, what can we do for you?

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Good morning guys. Hey, I have I have talked to
y'all about Virginia button weed on occasion in the past,
and I'm calling about that same insidious weed again. What
I that's right. I have used blindside and alternating that

(06:18):
with MSM turf uh the last couple of years now,
trying to eradicate it. But the last few weeks, I've
seen it coming up now that it's getting cooler weather
with white leaves in the in the yard. And I
know from what y'all have told me listening to y'all,
it grows. It spreads by clippings and by roots and

(06:42):
by seeds. But I've also when I've seen clumps of
it these last couple of weeks, I've pulled it up
instead of spraying it. Am I wasting my time by
pulling up clumps of Virginia button weed at this time
of the year. Any suggestions, I'm I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I want to make sure I say this correctly. You
are not weight in my opinion, you are not wasting
your time pulling them up, because when you pull those
plants up, you're removing some of the seeds. Every little
seed pod on Virginia button weeds has just an unbelievable,
unbelievable amount of seeds within it, and when it ripens,

(07:24):
it pops, and that's how they spread the seeds out
through your yard. So by physically removing as many of
those as you can, you're removing that many you know,
possibility of plants coming up. The issue is when you
pull it, you're gonna drop some of those seed pods off.
And the biggest thing with Virginia button weed is it

(07:45):
actually has underground seed pods, So when you pull the plant,
those are breaking off and those are actually germinating underground
and coming up. Scott Rickham, who we used to do
the show together all the time and unfortunately have not
for a while, I'll have to correct that since I'm
in charge of scheduling. But Virginia button weed is an

(08:09):
eighteen month control and what you have to do and
anytime you see Virginia button weed flowering in your yard,
the eighteen month clock starts over at that point. So
what we have to do is we have to be
diligent in spraying when we first see it come up,

(08:29):
which is usually April or May, and it's very difficult
because it's a very sneaky little weed. It kind of
hides up in your grass and then all of a
sudden we see this big old mat of it with
the white flowers and that's when we get the MSM
or whichever spray we're using out to control it. It's
like I said, it's an eighteen month process. And if

(08:50):
you see flowers. That's when your eighteen months starts over again.
So it's something you really need to be very diligent
with and really try to stay on top. The early
spring sprains are by far the most important. By early
I shouldn't say early spring, but early summer, late spring
springs are the most important. To stop them before they bloom.

(09:13):
Good luck, Peter. The other solution to that problem is
the real estate market. Right now, it's pretty decent. I
didn't think it would be, but I just threw it
out there just in case. Thank you, all right, thank
you for the call. And that is something that everyone
right now is discussing, is the Virginia buttonwheed and how

(09:35):
difficult it is to control. I'm very, very fortunate in
that my wife, as long as it's green and can
be mode, it's perfectly happy. And she's actually I've convinced
her it's actually a new lawn that you know, it's
a beautiful green lawn with white flowers. So she bought
it too for something.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
She fell for that I felt for that. I have
trouble believing that.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well. Thanks Kat, anyway, give us a call for nine
nine nine. I have two six set's for nine nine WJBI.
We were discussing humming birds and kind of had touched
briefly on butterflies, something I know is very important for you. Kat.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I've always had I've always been attracted to butterflies
and especially monarchs. Monarchs have an amazing story behind them.
I mean, they migrate from Canada to Mexico every year,
at least the ones that are east of the Rocky Mountains.
They make an annual flight pattern down into Mexico to

(10:35):
hibernate for the winter, and then they fly back up
in the spring.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And do they get frequent flyer miles for that?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I doubt it not in this economy. But what's what
I think is so interesting about the monarchs is the
cultural importance that they have in Mexico that I don't
know if everybody's aware of. Monarchs are getting really popular now.
Everybody's planting milk weed because we want to try to

(11:06):
help the population.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Can I well, I just did never mind one of
the things that I and I really do want your
opinion on this, the tropical milkweed. What is your thoughts
on it.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I mean, if we can get it, if you can
get it to grow here, and it's a good food
source for the caterpillars.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
There's so much internet chatter, and i know the lady
in New Orleans, and I'm very much a supporter of
hers and what she's doing with the butterflies, especially the monarchs.
But I do disagree that to go more native milkweed
here as opposed to the tropical, right, because my wife
can pretty much grow anything, and she has struggles growing

(11:55):
native milkweed here where the tropical is so much easier.
And actually I could be I'm you know, I'm the
dumbest person in this room. But typically that is more
favored for larval food and the I guess it's the
pathogen or the whatever gets into the larva that causes

(12:16):
the larva to not be able to form a good butterfly.
I've been told that if you cut your tropical milkweed
down twice a year, that that can't propagate on the plant.
Is that what you've heard.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's what I've heard as well. Yeah, and we we
already have a cutback, so to say, in the winter,
because our winters are gonna make it die back right right,
and it.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Does come back from the root system. But that, like
you said very well, is that your one. That's one
of your two cutbacks right there. And then if you
have a lot of tropical milkweed, you know, second week
of July, go out there and cut a third of it.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Now, yeah, it probably looks terrible anyway, and it's probably
covered in aphids.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, and then you know, once it grows back a
little bit, cut another third. You know, you don't have
to go out there June or July tenth and cut
it all down and oh my goodness, what are the
caterpillars going to have? Cut a little bit at a time,
And that's your second cut and right again, I don't
want to get into a debate on the radio with
anybody about it, but that's what I've been told, and

(13:21):
that's what I I when I was at the store,
would always recommend, is that people use the tropical because
I believe again that it's more preferred and it's so
much easier to grow.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
That's what I was about to say. Well, the first
thing I mentioned was if we can, if we grow
it here, like, go for it, because we do have
very challenging summers. So the fact that we can actually
grow the tropical milk weed here it is an obvious
advantage to using it, you know, so so long as

(13:53):
you can grow it and provide it to the butterflies
as a host plant while not you know, hurting the
next generation just follow that practice. It that it does.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Take some maintenance. But anyway, we kind of migrated into
into butterflies. I've always you know, you get people come
into the nursery and they go, oh, I want hummingbird
and butterfly plants, And there are some plants that both use.

(14:27):
I was trying to figure out the best way to
say that, but to me, it's always been neat anytime
you have what I call a flat blooming plant like lantana,
where the blooms are all kind of level. Penta is
another good one because butterflies kind of like to walk
around on top of the plants, and they got this
little short nose that they stick down in there to

(14:49):
get the nectar and pollen that they want, where hummingbirds
got this big, old, long nose. They like tubular flowers,
you know, coral honeysuckle salvias that have I have a
deep throat because they can stick their snoop way down
in there to get the juice. So that's one of
the things when you're at a nursery looking for something
for one or the other, and it's kind of your

(15:10):
more tubular flowers would be more conducive to hummingbirds, where
your flatter flowers would be more butterfly friendly.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, i'd agree with that.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, good, thank you, You're welcome. Do need to put
out a public service announcement? I almost completely forgot. I
had to drop something off in Kenilworth this morning, and
anyone needing a garage, all the way down Kenilworth Parkway
there's garage sale signs, so you can obviously get a

(15:42):
really good deal on a garage, probably have fantastic negotiating
with so many being for sale in that area. So
anyone needing a garage head to Kenilworth.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Anyway, on that thought, do you have any questions to
salvage the show?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Should my dad fertilize right now?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
We just kind of discussed this last week, but I
think it is important to discuss it again. Throughout my life,
there's only been one person that I know that could
actually sleep and eat at the same time, and that
was my son. We don't eat when we're sleeping. Plants
don't eat when they're sleeping, and why sleeping. I'm talking

(16:26):
about dormancy. We are actually headed into our typical fall
dormance season where your trees lose their leaves, plants aren't
growing very much, so they really don't need a lot
of food right now. Also compounding that is the fact
that we are extremely dry, so plants when we're this

(16:47):
dry a lot of times go into what I call
a forced dormancy. So for the most part, I would
not suggest fertilizing anything except for your annuals, if you've
planted petunias, those type things that would be important to
fertilize right now. I hope mister Tom's not listening because

(17:08):
I also because the grass is so dry, I am.
If you want to put out winter riser at this point, fine,
I just don't know how effective it's going to be
at this point, so probably going to put a no
on that. But if you do want to put out
a winterrizer, especially if you have an irrigation system and
have been watering, that is extremely important for the health

(17:31):
of your grass going into next spring. So winterrizing or
fertilizing betting plants is probably the only thing that I
would be fertilizing at this point or counterpoint. Anyway, we
have a phone call. Thank goodness. Let's go to in

(17:52):
just a second, we're going to go to Brad online. One.
Good morning, Brad, Welcome to news radio eleven to fifty
WJB is Lona Garden Show. What can we do for
you today?

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Hey, uh, thanks for taking my CALLAR know how busy all.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Are with the public service announcements.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Now just kidding up, I listened to you at the
time to time. I found a plant in a in
a dumpster about twenty years ago, and it looked it
looked terrible. It looked like it was dead. But I said, well,
it might not be dead because I had a little
had a little green on it, you know. But it

(18:32):
looked kind of like a pot some kind of palm
thing or something with the long leaves, you know. And
h and I took it and I didn't even pot it,
I mean ever, put it in a big pot for
for a while, and uh, I finally did it all
and put it in this really nice pot, big big

(18:53):
wide thing, and uh and it just it just went
crazy and it just it grew to about I don't know,
or four and a half feet or something. But uh,
but it just came out so so hearty and so
uh healthy. And over the years the thing has died

(19:21):
pretty much, and I mean like really died. I got
some bad information one time from a.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
From a does it come back after it's died? And
when does it typically die in the winter.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Well, I want to tell you what happened, though, I
got some bad advice from a from a lady and uh,
I'm not going to tell you what nursery it was.
And uh and it just killed the plans. I mean
it killed it like made it look like a dry skeleton, okay,

(19:56):
And I just left it like that for a while,
and uh and I was so I was really kind
of upset because I got some bad advice about it.
And uh, I just over fertilized, It's what I did.
And it just killed it like within three days. And
uh but I didn't throw it away. Instead, I just

(20:19):
pulled the uh the limbs out and stuck them behind
my hedges, right up next to my house. And uh,
you would not believe. About a month later, the little tiny,
little not even half inch sprout.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Story. Man, I'm coming up against a hardbreak. Is there
a question?

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Yeah? What's the best repotting soil for this Uh, it's
not a palm for the out whose landscape architect told
me she told the name of it. She said, it's
not a palm or something, but uh, I was best
repotting soil for this plant.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Would be Clegg's Potting saw. Klegg's has over the years
has formulated an excellent potting soil for our weather here.
Whether you're inside, side or outside. It drains extremely well,
which is the biggest issue we normally have with pots
and plants in pots is that we have draining tissues.
So yes, run by any of the Klegg's nurseries, ask

(21:22):
for Clegg's potting salt and they'll get you fixed up.
So good luck with that plant, Brad. We appreciate the call.
You're listening to wjbo's Long and Garden Show. You can
give us call it four nine nine nine five to six.
That's four nine nine. WJBO had a very tintillating discussion
during the break. So why don't you ask the question

(21:43):
you asked us?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Well, when can I plant strawberries?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Normally the best time is between eight and nine in
the morning.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Some like Farmer's Almanac info right there.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
No, Actually, we can plant strawberries here starting fairly soon.
Have you heard when they're coming into the store bear root.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
We're supposed to get the bundles in. I think on
the eighteenth we're going to get one variety, and then
a few days after that we're going to get another one.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
And y'all are doing you are doing the strawberry list
if they call in it.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Oh, yeah, we've got a long list. So y'all can
put your name on the list if you want them.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
And the store will call you when they come in
and you can come pick them up or whatever at
that point. But yeah, it's a good idea to get
on that way. You do get noticed when they're strawberry plants,
get there and you get them good and fresh. You
said the word bear root. What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Well, let's see, let's see how do I put this?
So they don't have soil.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Around the root, so the roots are bare.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
They're just hanging out. Okay, totally exposed.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
That is the most economical way to purchase strawberry plants.
And you do that in the fall, like she said,
sometimes normally middle to end of October into November. The
stores get the bare roots strawberries, and what you do
then is you take them home plant them. They have
what they call a crown, and you want to make

(23:13):
sure that you look at that crown very carefully, and
there's going to be I must use the word line,
but you're gonna have a lighter area and then it's
going to turn green. That is where that is the
planting level of the strawberry. You do not want to
plant it any deeper than that, and you really don't
want to plant it any shallower than that. Very easy

(23:33):
to do. Typically a day or two after you plant,
the existing foliage will have dried out and you'll want
to remove that. And again if typically a bundle of
strawberries is about twenty five plants, I don't know the
cost this year with because they do come out of
Canada and all that stuff going on. But if you're

(23:55):
wanting to plant a large number of strawberries or have
an area first a twenty five or fifty plants, that
is head and shoulders the most economical way of doing it.
And if you plant them now, you'll be picking strawberries
probably February, maybe March into March. Then come typically in January,

(24:17):
maybe a little bit later than that, Miss Cat will
be bringing in already rooted strawberries, won't you. That's true,
And what they are is they normally come in a
little four inch pot and if you're wanting to do
just a few in a strawberry jar or just a
couple around the in pots around the house for the
kids or whatever, that's kind of a neat way of
doing it. Typically going to run three to four dollars

(24:39):
a piece, but and later into the season they'll actually
have strawberries on it. And one of the biggest issues
we have with the employees is they'll go out there
and start eating the ripe strawberries and I might be
in the room with one of them.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
More, Hey, I get hungry.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I can't blame you. Do you bring powdered sugar?

Speaker 3 (24:59):
No, I just eat it the way there you go.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So, but yeah, strawberries. You can plant them, starting like
I said, with the bear roots about the middle of
this month, and then going into the containerized one typically
starting in maybe late December early January. Typically you'll be
getting those in. And we actually have another phone call,
so let's go to Terry. Good morning, Terry, Welcome to

(25:25):
news radio eleven to fifty WJB is Line Garden Show.
What can we do for you? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (25:31):
Is it time to put the MSM turf out now?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yes, as one of the I don't Peter earlier was
talking about Virginia button weed is running wild right now.
The unfortunate situation is it has flowered, so that means
it has deposited seeds. But again we want to kill
off the plants that are there so they won't continue
producing more seeds. So yes, MSM is probably the best control. Again,

(25:56):
anytime you're dealing with a herbicide, area is much more
important than the amount of water you're using, so make
sure you follow the instructions on it so you don't
damnage your lawn. Okay, all right, hey, thank you for
the call. And again MSM we always talk about that
specifically with Virginia button weed, but it is a very

(26:18):
good broad leaf weed control, so it is something that
we can use for a lot of the broad leaf
weeds in our lawn. Works well on Dichondra dollar weed also.
So anyway, at opened up phone lines of four six
sets four nine nine WJBO, you had a question, ma'am. Yes,

(26:39):
I would suggest Moms for the Fall is one of
the options that you can use. I'm sorry your microphone
wasn't working there, but I have some other options for you.
Uh And I think Kat and I discussed this a
little bit during one of the breaks.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Alternatives to moms alternatives. I mean marrigold'ss I love.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I Love crotons. You know that is one of the
most underutilized fall plants.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
It is, Yeah, but it's so iconic for fall, like
it represents fall.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I mean you've got the orange, you got the reds,
you got the darker colors, you got the yellows in there.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, it's perfect. Stick a scarecrow in it and you're done.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Simple, Mom to me, is a party plant. Yeah, if
you're having a you know, football game, you're having a
bunch of people over something going on in the fall,
and you want decorations at the front door, and you
want instant pop a Mom's the way to go. But
you were saying during the break, what what truthfully? Peak? Mom?

(27:44):
How long do you have with it?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean, once it starts opening and blooming, you've got
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, we're with them. You mentioned Marigolds you've got if
you keep them dead headed, you got.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
All fall right exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
You know you dope the you know, I understand. And
in this town and the shirt and hat I'm wearing,
you do need purple. And but the only way you're
going to get purple is you might be able to
sneak a dianthus or two, but you're gonna need a
mum for that mom.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Or petunias. Honestly, the yellow marigolds are great, Lsu yellow, yes,
and then a purple petunia. Oh, look at you go,
Lsu ready to go right?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
You could do the marrigolds in the center of the
pot and the petunias around the edge exactly, rape over.
And did you write that down? Carolina? Nope, you're killing
me here, girl. And I totally completely lost where I
was headed after that. But uh no, moms are important
as a party plant, something instant bizazz. But there's so

(28:48):
many other Oh that's what it was. Whatever has happened.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
To Colenjulu's COLLENSA That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I mean that used to be one of my favorite
fall plants that came in the beautiful orange yellows. I
don't want to say gold, more yellow but to me
that and it was much bigger bloom than the maragle, right,
but used to be very popular, and I just don't
see very many.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I don't think i've seen any come in to seek
in this season yet. I'm not sure if I remember
seeing any.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, thought I thought you were ordering.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
When when Braiden's out of town?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Should we fire Braiden?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
No? Okay, frightens my pal. He can stick around.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it's something even when I was there that I
was noticing. You didn't see on availability near as much
as we usually.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, growers, man, there's so many different plants now to grow.
I mean, they have hybridized things to no end. So
it's they probably ran out of growing space to grow
the golingulas.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
You know, you might be on to say.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
They're doing supertunias instead, and I'll take that. I'll take supertunias.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I just there's supertunias. There's so many varieties, and
once you get past bubblegum, the longevity of them may
not be there as much as some people have indicated
that the saprtoon is.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I agree. Yeah, if you want to, if you want
the reliable one, pick the bubble gum, the rest you
can play around with.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, there's some pretty colors out there now, there really are.
But anyway, that's one of the big things going on
right now is everybody's going into fall. Watering is extremely
important in the in the garden right now, just something
that you really need to stay on top of. We
discussed micro irrigation all the time. Very easy to do.

(30:40):
Come by the store, bring a just bring a rough
drawing of your landscape and we can set you up
with some micro irrigation. But right now we're going to
go and talk to Patrick. Good morning, Patrick, welcome to
news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's Lone Garden Show. What
can we do for you?

Speaker 6 (30:56):
Yeah, thank you question.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
I know it's probably premature about spring bulbs, Crocus narcissius.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
The best time to plant them?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Uh No, you are dead on time on that, Patrick,
That's perfect way to go to help us out here.
Your crocus, your tulips, and to some extent your.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Arcis.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, those are going to need chilling hours. So what
you want to do is pick those up in the nursery,
bring them home, put them in your refrigerator. Don't put
them anywhere near apples. Don't put them in the bend
with the apples, because apples actually produce a slight gas
that will kill the bull. But you want to chill those,
and you want to chill them for about six weeks. Uh,

(31:47):
daffodils narcissus. They can be directly planted. Best selection at
the nursery is right now, so come by pick out
what you want. I'd probably plant those around Thanksgiving though
actually in the ground, but no fall balls. And you
know God, and you want to purchase right now because
they will be gone here shortly, so I a great

(32:08):
phone call.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Okay, So put.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Them in the refrigerator for about six weeks.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yes, your tulips in your your tulips in your highcinse
are the one that needs chilling. The rest of them
you can just direct plant around Thanksgiving, okay.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
And Pansy's petunias.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
One of petunias I'm okay with right now, and hang
on for a little bit. We will come back and
discuss Pansy planting with you. So go to the phone
lines and go to Ben. Good morning, Ben, Welcome to
news radio eleven fifty wjbo's Lone and Garden Show. What
can we do for you today.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Yes, hi calling seeing if you intern cat have any
suggestions on rodent deterrents in the yard. Notice a little
bit up taking the moles, and maybe it's pharmadillas in
the backyard. And then I've even had invasive cats.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Come in here.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Oh well, you got all thoughts on all front.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Actually, mole and our meadilla control is fairly easy. We sell.
It's actually a castor oil product. You spray that over
your yard. Both of those animals, Well, a mole is
completely use a sense of smell to find its food source,
and armadillos do too, so the castor oil mass that sense,

(33:27):
so they can't find it, so they go elsewhere. One
of the things you do when spray, and especially for moles,
is you don't want to spray your entire yard at
one time because that just confuses them and they can't
find their way out. So you want to take about
ten to twelve foot strips, spray that and kind of
push them to whichever neighbor you don't like the most.

(33:48):
So yeah, you want to kind of move them across
your yard. And you could spray like once a day
until you get all the way across your yard. But
as far as cats, I would suggest a live trap
and cat. Hey, so good luck with that. But yeah,
Armadilla is a moles castor oil product. I think it's
called mole Go if I'm not mistaken. Is the actual

(34:10):
brand name on that? But available at all Klegg's locations only.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Maybe thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It sounds like a war of attrition there you go.
Good luck with that. Maybe the cats could take care
of the moles for you. Good luck And again that
opens up phone lines at four six sets for nine
nine WJBO. We've got a few more minutes in the
show if you wanted to give us a call. We
were talking to Patrick about planting petunias and pansies, and

(34:41):
I want to get back to the pansies. Pansies are
very susceptible to a soil pathogen that is active at
certain soil temperatures, and right now we're at peak active. Well,
the moisture is a little controlling of it right now,
but is it's peak temperature. And what we want to
do is we want to wait till our soil temperatures

(35:03):
cool down before we plant pansies, because as the soil
temperatures get cooler, the pathogen goes night night, so it
doesn't attack the stem of the plant. And it's one
of the things that nursery professionals can determine. If you
bring a dead pansy plant in, we can tell you

(35:25):
right away if it's a pathogen, because your stem is
going to be black right at the soil line, and
that's where the pathogen attacks the plant. And what happens
is it attacks it, the plant starts to wilt, so
you water it, which causes the pathogen to be even
more active, which kills the plant outright. And well, it's
only a few here, there and everywhere. Well, that's where

(35:46):
the pathogen is in your soil. It may not be
equal throughout your entire bed. It may be more prevalent
in certain areas, and the plants that you plant in
those areas are the ones that die. So again we
get people all, oh, it was the plant. I mean, sorry,
it's a pathogen in your soil. And unfortunately there's not

(36:06):
a foolproof way. There's used to be called agrifoss. They've
been changing the name of that product, but it is.
We do sell it and go into legs and ask
for agrifass and if they've changed the name. They'll bring
you to the correct product that has shown to be
somewhat effective in controlling that pathogen, but not definitely, not
one hundred percent. So waiting until soil temperatures are cooler

(36:29):
is by far the best way to And what would
you suggest that becat?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Well, it really depends on yeah, nature.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, I put you on the line.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
There is never here.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah. Typically my wife when she does pansies, will do
it actually in November. Typically it's cool enough by then,
and there's lots of neat little stuff that you can
carry over between now and then if you want to
plant something in your yard. So, yeah, vegetable planning. I
know we had some questions on planting carrots. I believe

(37:02):
you wanted to know, Caroline. Yes, it might be a
little early, especially with the dry weather. The most important
thing with planting carrots is a good deep bed so
that the carrot can grow out and doesn't like splinter
into seven little fingers. But most of what we're planning
right now, and help me out here, I don't know
what's at the nursery right now, Kat. What do you

(37:22):
have in vegetables available?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Califlower, broccoli, lettuces, must oh, the greens, the collar all the.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Kale is something that I think people, you know, we
get so many people come into the nursery looking for spinach,
and spinach is extremely difficult to germinate and extremely difficult.
In fact, Johnny Naylor used to tell people there's about
two hours every year that spinach will germinate, and I
think there's some truth to that. Try kale if you
can either do. The plants or the seeds are very

(37:56):
easy to sprout. Shirley Planet some I think Wednesday, and
already had a few up this morning when I look.
So cale is a great alternative here for spinach. Use
it green, use it raw or cooked. Either way. Excellent product,
but a lot going on. If you're not ready to
plant your garden, come get the soil amendments and build
up your soil and plant. You know, I'll probably plant

(38:18):
the end of this month in my garden because it's
so hot right now. You're lettuce is especially a bolt. Yeah,
so you're having trouble with that on the tables at all.
And once lettuce bolts, it is no good. I mean,
it turns really bitter. So don't forget Johnny Naylor's seed wall.
I like to say it's the back wall of all

(38:39):
the nurseries. I believe that, Don Moore, it's a sidewall,
but it doesn't matter. It's a big wall of seeds.
Ninety nine point nine percent of the seeds on that
wall have been growing in Johnny's garden. The only reason
it's ninety nine point nine percent is he has a
new variety up there this year that he's planting that
he's planting for the first time. So we'll see what
that is and then it'll be one hundred percent. Let's

(39:00):
put something new on there. Kat, I'll tell you what.
This has been fun, one of the one of the
fastest shows I think I've done. Caroline, you were excellent. Yes,
I think we're just going to stop negotiations with Anna Clare.
Just keep you anyway. You've been listening to news Radio
eleven fifty WJBOS Lawn and Garden Show where Clegg's Nursery.

(39:21):
We have forward locations in the Greater Baton Rouge area,
Don Lori, mid City, Seagan Lane, Greenal Springs Road near
Sherwood and Magnolia Range Road near Magnolia Bridge Road. We
are the news Radio eleven fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show.
We'll see you next Saturday morning.
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