February 1, 2025 • 44 mins
Zane & Scott from Clegg's Nursery are your experts this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show! They'll go over some of the cold weather impact questions you're asking at the nursery and what steps you should take if your plants or trees were impacted.
Also, it's potato time! Zane & Scott talk about growing potatoes and why they, along with carrots, are great for kids to get planting!
Plus, caller questions on dealing with sticker grass, satsuma trees, and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings at 8am! You can reach us at (225) 499-9526 or by leaving a message anytime using the Talkback Mic on the free iHeartRadio app...like right now, if you're listening to the podcast! Click or tap the microphone above to record your message.
Also, it's potato time! Zane & Scott talk about growing potatoes and why they, along with carrots, are great for kids to get planting!
Plus, caller questions on dealing with sticker grass, satsuma trees, and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings at 8am! You can reach us at (225) 499-9526 or by leaving a message anytime using the Talkback Mic on the free iHeartRadio app...like right now, if you're listening to the podcast! Click or tap the microphone above to record your message.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO lun and
Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting lon and garden concerns
are questions about landscaping called four nine nine w GBO.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine two six.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good morning on a beautiful Baton Rouge morning. This morning, yep,
I'm here this morning was Zaane Mercer, Jeremy Porcine. My
name is Scott ricca Zaye and I are from Cleggs.
Jeremy's not, but he does a good job for Cleggs.
I'm very appreciative that he's here. Thank you, Jeremy. No,
it is a wonderful isn't it. Though it's a little
(00:43):
on the chili side, but it's gonna warm up.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's nice.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That's where I wore shorts, you know me. I was like,
I want to I don't even have a sweatshirt on.
I'm yeah either, just the dog. So yeah, it's it's
nice day out and warm up. Well, I can't ever
get used to our temperature fluctuations in the winter. I've
lived to your almost my whole life.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, and I haily lived here my whole life. But
you know it's a it is.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, you know, take take the good winner's here and
you know, just living once.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
One second, I'm wearing overalls, next second, I'm wearing shorts,
and I could probably go swimming.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, you see, I wear my overalls winter it's hot.
Sometimes it just depends on what activity I'm doing. So
oh yeah, they're they're a little bit more ventilated.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
See I own car herd. I can't I just swim. So,
you know, we got a lot of stuff going on
at the nurseries we do. It's you know, it's kind
of a change in seasons.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, uh, springs coming up the heck it might be
here today, not on the calendar, but uh in actuality,
feeling exactly a lot of people coming in lately with
lots of questions what to do, what to do about
the freeze that we had a lot of people coming
in for weed, controlling their lawns. All my vegetables got
(01:57):
messed up, and what kind of plant now? I mean,
there's a lot lot of things going on.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah you know what I mean. It's potato time, Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It is potato time. We got plenty of potatoes plenty.
Is that such an easy thing to grow?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I was talking to a she was a little old lady.
I'm not going to guess her age, but you know,
she was like, I've never done potatoes, and so I
think I'm gonna get one or two potatoes and go trying.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And she's going to do them in the ground or
in the pot.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
She was going to do them in a pot. Yeah,
and that's what I do. Well, was it you that
was here with Butcher?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And he always talks about doing it with the with
the grandkids, you know, and dipping a pot over at
mother Day or whatever. Such an easy thing to do
and the yield is good. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Mean, what was it? I did it last year and
I just had a forty five gallon pot at the house.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Which had How big is a forty five gallon pot?
For the people they I've never seen one. Oh, it's
probably four foot wide. Four foot wide? Yeah, four foot wide,
we'll say three and a half foot tall. Well, how
much sure to take to fill it to the top
before you plant your potatoes in it?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So I put my potatoes in first, and then just
a few.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Wes no no soil on the just a little bit,
just a little bit, just to cover the plastic on
the bottom.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And then did what and then cover the potatoes with
a little bit of soil.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That didn't take much, right, No, no, no, so most
of the pasta empty it was.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And then as they grew, you just keep adding soil.
It's kind of neat.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You totally cover the green. No, I leave a little bit,
leave a little bit green, and it just keeps growing up. Yeah, spot,
were you asking all these questions because the people on
the other end don't know, so, you know, we we
bring up the subject matter.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I want them to know just how simple it is.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, by the end of furtilizer. Every now and again,
when you put your new soil, and I just use
kelsea nitrate because it's what sure but which is great
for tomatoes. And it's getting close to I mean, we
have tomatoes right now at the store. But I'm not
I'm not into that much work doing it that early.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But you go ahead, No, but yeah, just by the
time you're finished, by the time it's actually time to
tip that bucket over, you filled it up with soil,
and I just used I had busted bags from a project.
I had just some leftover bag so it's just a
mix and they're not super particular, just something well drunk.
So around Mother's Day, which is in May. Yeah, yeah,
(04:18):
that's checked.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So when the plant, how do you know when it's time.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Uh, the green like the tops of the potatoes. Yeah,
we'll start to get we'll say tired, tired, so you're
not taking care of it properly, right, it'll start to
kind of yellow. That's what it does.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's not like, oh my god, you're dying yellow.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They'll start to flat and some yeah, and then it's
just that's when it's time to go ahead and tip
them over.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Now, yeah, a forty five gallon container can be hard
to tip over for some people. It was so they
so they could hand dig some out.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, they could just hand dig some of that.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And the potatoes are kind of in layers. How you
laid your dirt, right, Yes, it's what happens. Every time
you put more dirt the stem that you just covered,
the roots come out from that sideways and that's where
the potatoes are made. So they started a level and
then the plant grows higher you put more dirt, it
does that again.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So you have layer, layer, layer, and so it's kind
of neat.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But they could do like a fifteen gallon contender, which
would be easy.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
To flip over. Yeah, fifteen gallon, Yeah, don't Yeah. I
just like having big I just like messing with having
big buckets at the house.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh yeah, there's a song about that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh wait, okay, so but no, I mean that's a
neat little project.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, and easy and really and and but did with grandkids.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's great for kids. Potatoes and carrots. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I actually introduced a family that was shopping the other
day to pulling a carrot out of the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
A little girl, I don't know, she was seven. You
took her next door.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I took her next door and let her pull
a carrot out and uh and she was just like
fascinated when it came out the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah. I mean, and and carrots and like your ah,
your root crops. Just in general, those are so neat
because the don't have a little bit of the top exposed,
but you don't really realize in what you've done it
before just how much is underneath. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And they're easy, Yeah, most all that stuff is easy.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's something you can just if you have a little
spot you could fill in or pot Yeah, just like
you do. Cool.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Cool, Well, we're here. We have open phone lines this morning.
You can join us with picking up the phone call
on four six that's four nine nine WJBO.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'll just go ahead and throw out right now.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
We do have the iHeartRadio that you can access for
free on your phone or computers at WJBO Long and
Garden Show. Actually, that's probably how I was reminded of
Butch with his grandkids doing the potatoes, because sometimes when
I'm driving along, like to listen to what y'all talked
about when I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, do you ever listen to yourself? It's that's not
my voice. I make it about fifteen seconds. That's not
my voice. I must skip this one.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I have had to go back on my on shows
that I was on, like to reference something like Bill
Rountree of variety. Sometimes you'll give these variety of names,
and and I have to go back and find it
so I hear myself.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But what's like the cheering one? Yes, I keep going
back to that one because I can't remember. I can't
ever remember the cultivar name that's right, you know? Or
like he talked about we talked about flux one time
and it was like, I can't remember that.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, And Bill, you know, that's his job. He plans
and he doesn't like to do the same old, same o.
He likes to try something new, bringing new things. And
so he's very much experience with the different varieties and
their performance, and so it's nice to talk to him.
And Alan Owens hears things from he travels around to
(07:43):
different shows and so so you know that brings in
something new. And you and I we get exposure to
certain things, but we don't plant so much.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
We don't watch house, you know now like I mean,
and I'll look at so like for instance, Bill plants
a bunch of Gordonia or Gordlinea. I forget it comes to.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That one of your house looks like it's nice. I
remember I by your house the other day. I love
that the reddish tone to it. But I was familiar
with the Gordonia. But then the gordon that the new,
the cultivar, the blending of the two, well, I.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Just I think that's just kind of neat that we
kind of we find something. And for those nut in
the know, there's a a native tree called a franklinea.
And then they crossed it with a Gordonia.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Right, and those have a flower like a small magnolia.
They're in a magnolia family, and they're very, very beautiful,
and you don't find them. Even when we find some,
we don't get many. No, we get a handful.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean it may be like I was in a
pickle try to come up with an order, right, and
that they were like, oh well we'll take those, and
it's like, oh great, yeah, now I gotta find them. Yeah,
you know, but it's you know, it's just it's a
neat little plant, a small shape, small tree, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Small fifteen feet yeah, I mean I've stayed at Franklin
the AA that was humongous one time in the past.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And it was pictures about twenty ish to thirty.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Right, Yeah, it was probably about thirty feet. It was
an old one, which I think that was actually named
by or after Franklin, Benjamin Franklin.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yes, so, I been so long. It's Benjamin Franklin's like
nephew founded or something.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, And it wasn't something that was found in large
numbers in nature anyway. It's a very I think I
don't want to use the word rare, but unusual.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, well it's a native plant found at botanical gardens,
not in out Yeah, yeah, you don't, you know, right
so so, but it's a neat little plant. Same with
that that osmanthus the sweet out of you some when
we were well, say, touring the snow. Yeah, you know,
it was just stuff like that, whereas you just don't
(10:04):
see if area often. So it's neat when we get those.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, we've had and you know, new plants and you know,
things look and this is a great time to look
because a lot of times, if it's a plant we
don't get many of we get them in the fall
and early spring, and then it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, and that's kind of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So but I've had a number of people in at
the Griminal Springs location, you know, picking up the bags
of the weed and feed right now because they start
to see some weeds in their yard or they're scared
that their lawns suffered from the from the snow, and
so they want to get out there and give it
some fertilizer.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And and it's not really the time for that, is it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No, I've been dealing with that, and then you know,
you want to go out and spray, which by all
means yes, spray for I.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Understand what you know, spray for like your clover for
weed control or weed control right right, which they it's
perfect time for that, right you know.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But but then if it'll win it by that, they
want to get the whed and feed too.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
There's a I think there's a lot of people that
don't understand when we say wheat and feed that is
a combination of fertilizer and herbicide. So you know, you
don't wet and feed and spray at the same time.
(11:26):
And if we say it's too early to fertilize, oh well,
I'll just put out this wheat and feed. Well, the
feed is the fertilizer. If it's too early to do
it by itself, it's too early. Fertilization of your lawn
early it's bad for a number of reasons. First of all,
if your grass is dormant, your fertilizer starts to release,
(11:47):
and the nitrogen, which you really want for your.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Grass, starts to actually leave.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You know, it goes into solution and can wash away,
and so you're paying for all that fertilizer and it's
washing away before you plant. Can ever reutilize it, so
you're paying for it not even getting the use of it.
If you put it early, you can help promote fungal problems.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If you put it out.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Early and your grass is not growing, but you have
weeds there, guess what starts to feed on the fertilizer,
right right, So early fertilization of your lawns is not good.
So Saint Augustine usually doesn't go as dormant as the other,
so it starts off growing earlier in the season. Usually,
(12:30):
I don't usually recommend a fertilization on March. On Saint
Augustine before March, and then Centipede, it's the end of
March or April before it's really kicking in. And I
loved what But you used to see all the time
for when to put out your lawn fertilize. He goes
after you mow it the second time, because usually the
first mowing first you're just cutting it. Yeah, you just
(12:53):
chopping leaves and watch chopped leaves all winter, but the
weeds are starting to get tall. And then the second
time you mow is because the grass started to grow
and you needed to mow the grass. Now it's you know,
it's active. You know, it's awake, you know, it's just
woke up. And now he's hungry for breakfast. It's time
to give him something. Yeah, I mean that's a that's
(13:14):
a great way to think about that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's good. If there's one good thing Butcher's ever told.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Me, I'm just gonna leave that right there.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah. And uh, when you're Scott.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Rick and we're both from Clegs and we're here to
the end of the hour kind of to take a
loan and the garden questions, So if you have any questions,
pick up the phone, give us a call at six.
That's four nine nine w j b O. We do
have a caller already. Let's go to Lee. Thanks for
calling and what are you What do you got going
(13:48):
on this morning?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yes, we need starting to treat against a stick of grass.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's a great time to start, Lee because most people
don't realize it. They don't start treating their stickers until
they walk out and step on one and go, oh,
I have stickers. But the thing that they stepped on
that stuck their foot is actually the seed and the
sticker together. So stickers usually sprout in the fall h
(14:15):
September October. And so like many weeds, the smaller and
younger they are, the easier they are to kill. It's
a great time to get after them. Right now, Lee,
What do I use?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
There's a few different products that weat free zone, and
the atrozine works very well on it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
We actually in many cases recommend using those two products
together if you have a really bad weed problem in
your yard. But yeah, either the weat free zone or
the atrozine or the combination that is often coming a
well weed seak free zone correct that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Somebody absolutely absolutely and dying what I do? Let it go?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, just let the leaves fall off. They're gonna they're
gonna fall off. There's nothing you can do about those
ones that were damaged by the cold.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Now, what you what we all.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Need to be aware of and continue to watch, is
how much stem damage did we receive. I have an
orange tree looks just like your orange tree, and I
had to walked around the other side of the house
to look at my other citrus trees because it's kind
of wet over there, and I've been busy, and I
don't Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I don't want to look out. I don't want to
depress myself so I'm gonna let those leaves fall off. Well.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Typically we tell you to prune, if necessary, prune your
citrus trees in the middle of February if you have damage,
I would not if you were going to prune, I
would not prune in the middle of February. I would
delay that all the way end of April into May,
(15:58):
just so that you know exactly where the damage.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Stopped, because the tree will leaf out right and then
from there you can actually see right, yeah, you'll see
where it's top leaf out. So I need to go
ahead and print it out.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And now don't forget you need to fertilize. It's going
to take you know, the proper nutrition for the tree
to grow back out and relief. So typically we recommend
two fertilizations of citrus per year. I usually recommend near
the end of February near the end of June. Although
(16:38):
packages recommend you do a fall fertilization for your citrus,
we do not recommend that in our region because of
the way we have the weird temperature fluctuations in the
fall and early winter.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It can trick the tree.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You can have a lot of new foliage and then
that newfoldage might be damaged heavily and you would end
up behind where you were if you had done nothing
thing for the fall. But most people don't fertilize enough.
So make sure you look at the packages of citrus
tree for the first several years of its life. It's
(17:12):
like a pound and a half of fertilizer for every
one inch of trunk diameter. All right, so that's a
pretty fair amount of fertilizer. Most people just put like
a couple of handfuls and think that's enough. That's like
you're really starving and somebody gives you a trisk it
it's not going to do, okay, Yeah, all right, So
(17:32):
don't rush to prune, don't forget the fertilize.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Just let those leaves fall off naturally.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Okay, got it, all right, Lee, have a great day.
Lots of questions about citrus in the last few days,
and I'm sure we'll have more and more to come.
Are they going to bloom and bear fruit this year?
I don't know, Yeah, don't know. I have a dwarf
lemon that I do tarp only had a one hundred
(17:58):
and fifty white light bulb under there, so and I
tarped with plastic, so everything that the cold, every leaf
that was touching the plastic is browned. I still have green.
Will it bloom a lemon probably maybe not the first bloom,
but a lemon can bloom multiple times in the year,
(18:18):
so I will get some lemons on my lemon tree.
But my orange trees, I don't know how much tissue
damage we have.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, and i'd expect my satsuma, which it took some damage.
I'd expect if I get fruit it wasn't. It's not
gonna be very much.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We had a lot of bad years in the last
few years. I think my decline of fruit production started
with that late freeze in March.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Was that three years ago? Four years ago? I don't
even remember anymore?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Ago, Yeah, so yeah, I haven't had my trees truly,
haven't recovered since that yet.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And I always forget to treat for leaf footed bugs.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So that's usually what yeah, which is what a lot
of people call stink bugs, but it's different, but they're related.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
First know, which is corner of the yard. I just
don't go. I don't want to drag a hose out
and spray it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, I don't like to spray very much.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's just by time.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, by the time you do stuff like that
at work and this you get homes like not at work,
I don't feel.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
So so you know, citrus, don't forget to just they're
gonna be brown. You're gonna lose a lot of foliage.
You might not have any stem damage, it might just
leap out just fine, but it's gonna need nutrition for that.
Make sure you if you don't do anything else for
your tree, make sure you fertilize it this spring to
help it flush back out and get back off on.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
A better foote.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The fertilization in the summertime really helps with fruit production
for the following year. So that's very beneficial and not
the not the fall fertilization for citrus.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, I wish they didn't that on well.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But for other reasons. It's perfectly fine, but not for
our reason.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
And even when you read something on the internet or
in the book, you always have to think, is this
right for my proper for my geographic rooms is general?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Or did this person that wrote this article where they
in Minnesota and going by Minnesota conditions? Uh? They tell
you how to do something with the soil was their
soil the same as our soil. I mean, there's a
lot of things you have to consider even when you're
reading it. And that's why, I mean, we are so
lucky to have the LSU University here. There are tons
(20:35):
of agricultural and horticultural hints on their website lsue accenter
dot com. There's an excellent one on citrus, and that
one's an easy one because if you you can either
put in the keyword citrus or the publication number for
that one is so easy to remember. It is publication one, two, three, four,
and just all kinds of things about the different types
(20:55):
of citrus, the different cold heartiness, because not all citrus
are equally hold hardy, fertilization rates are on there, bug problems,
they have, disease problem, all kinds of stuff when the
plant tomatoes, you know, just you know, the vegetable planting
guide that we pass out. We we borrow that from
l s U. Now we add some stuff on the
(21:17):
flip side.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I mean their calendar that we will we will carry
their calendar all year. Yeah, but their calendar alone, Yeah,
that all kinds of little just little tidbits of information, reminders. Yeah,
you know, like because I'm forgetful about a moment putting
out my sulfur HyG dranges and stuff. Yeah, I have
a calendar.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, well right now, for nothing else, you can change
the oil in your lawnmower, sharpened blades because almost time.
So what else we've got? You know, we have a
lot of people had problems with their vegetable gardens, and
we probably have some time to do some of the
fall crops. Probably have some time to do some of
(22:00):
those again, if we wanted before it gets too hot, yeah,
before it gets too hot. Certainly you could do lettuces.
You could probably do some kale. Something lady asked me
yesterday about Brussels sprouts. I would say no, that kind
of takes a long time. And there are people that
already buying transplants. We kind of touched on tomatoes earlier.
(22:22):
Some people are buying tomatoes now and putting them in
a larger cup. I wouldn't put them in the ground,
but they're bumping them up to a larger size. That
just gives you a bigger head start. Yeah, yeah, right
now we have Melissa. Melissa took time to pick up
the phone and call four six. It's four h nine wjbo.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Hey, we have a question.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
We have a satsumetry probably about thirty years old, I guess,
and for the last several years it makes really large fruit,
but the peelings on them, the skin is like really.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Bumpy really and then nick and then when you do
it it's dry on the inside. Yeah, ahay. They have a
name for that. They call it puffy fruit. Now, that's
that's really common on young trees, usually five years or
less or after the tree has gone through some trauma
(23:19):
like freeze, so there's not anything that you can do
about that. The tree has to work hisself through it. Now,
sometimes you'll get a weird looking fruit if the rootstock
has started to grow. But if your tree is that old,
I doubt it's a rootstock problem. And if it was
(23:39):
a rootstock problem, the leaves would look different. Instead of
having what we refer to as a single leaf, a
single pattern where it's just one point, you would have
something that looks more like a clover leaf or it
has three lobes. For people that are listening that it
might have that problem, and they would have lots of
thorns on that also. So yeah, what you're going through
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is called puffy fruit. Make sure that you give a
good fertilization anything to help it get through the stress
that costs this. So there's a good chance that we
might have some puffy fruit this season from the cold,
if you get fruit at all. So when you see that,
because you can see that large, you're thinking the first
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time you see it, you think, man, look at the
size of this, it's.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Going to be great.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well, now that you know, in midsummer, when you start
seeing them trying to get.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Oversized, just go pick those off.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Okay, don't let the tree waste the energy on it
because it's not going to be good, and it can
use that energy instead of making a bigger puffy fruit
into something else more valuable for the tree.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
And still fertilize it in that condition.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Just quite the year, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, and the February end of June, all right, thank
you welcome.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I can remember the first time ever seeing those ye
and thinking, wow, this is to be great.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And then it's like these are nasty.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Oh yeah, and I and there's people all the time coming, man,
I got these really big ones. It's gonna be great.
It's like, yeah, those aren't gonna be any good.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Well, I mean the year we bought the bought our house,
uh huh. That year that's said there's three sets soon
was in the corner. Uh huh. They were all horrible.
Oh yeah, you know, and that's just so disappointing. So
it's better. It's better to go cut them off so
you're not disappointed later. All. The best part is I
didn't even know. I thought it was just rootstock because
there was a fifteen foot tall section of rootstock. Oh
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oh so and then it was just all weeds and overgrown.
So I was like, oh cool, there set zum was
under here. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, oh,
they're not They're not tasty. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So citrus are most citrus that are sold in our
region are grafted. You can buy non grafted citrus from
certain places in town now on occasion, usually in smaller containers.
The root stock is usually uh some form of citrus trifoliata.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So try three folio foliage.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It will have bless you, It'll have three lobes, kind
of like a clover.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I think of a bird's foot.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, if you ever see that on your citrus tree,
that's wrong and you should follow that stem all the
way down to the ground or wherever it originates, and
remove it as quickly as you see it. Otherwise it
will steal energy from your fruit production portion and can
smother and kill the fruit production point. So it usually
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has lots and lots of thorns. So if you have
a satsuma and you see lots of thorns in your satsuma,
that's wrong. However, there is a new satsuma that does
have some orange, but it's not the same way.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
But the new.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Satsuma with the thorns doesn't have that three petal bird's foot.
It's just got a normal leaf. And other citrus like lemons,
they have thorns. Some grape fruits they can have thorns.
You can have thorns on other types of citrus. So
the thorn isn't always an indicator that it is the
wrong thing, but sometimes mostly for a satsuma, it would
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be or come.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Quiet sumaume quitts, oranges.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, things that aren't supposed to have stormed. There are some
oranges that sometimes have thorns.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So, but I find it's like the more juvenile stems.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Usually right once the tree gets more mature, unless it's
had some severe damage, you don't usually see the rootstock
coming back up and it And when you look at
a tree where it's grafted at the bottom, even when
they get older, it's usually very apparent where that graft is.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh yeah, kind of a not almost.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, I've got my blood orange is huge and the
base is probably twelve inches in diameter, and when it
comes up about five inches, all of a sudden, that
twelve inch diameter shrinks to eight inch diameter, so that
that's where that graft union was initially.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, I know. Quick. You mentioned you can get non
grafted citrus. Yes. Uh, I'm of the opinion that should
always be in a container.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I would be Also, the rootstock adds some of its
character to what's grafted on to it, so I mentioned
earlier I have a dwarf lemon. Yes, well, my lemon
is a mere lemon from that graft up. It's the
same Meyer lemon as anybody would buy. Yep, mind doesn't
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grow as tall because it's grafted onto a root stock
whose character is to stay low, lower or grown away.
That doesn't promote high growth. From that point up, it's
the same, but the rootstock is giving some of its
character to the to the citrus grafts on to it.
Most of the rootstocks are more cold hardy than the
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fruit bearing portion, so it gives some of that cold
hardiness to whatever is grafted onto it. So there's a
benefit there. If nothing else, they're more cold hardy.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah. And I found it was if you did, because
I knew someone that would do cuttings. Huh. And it's
kind of the same with some of the rose cultivars. Yeah,
you know you want to, Oh, I really like this rose,
I'm gonna do a cutting of it.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, that's great if you want one or two. But
a lot of times roses don't grow well on their
own rootstock.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
No, no, but it's like just with the amount of
rainfall we get typically find more issues. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
So but you know, I'm not saying don't do it, no,
not at all. That there are some things like a fig.
My goodness, gracious, you can take a fig cutting just
about whenever and just turn your back around and it's rooted.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I mean it was. I mean I wanted to remember
there was one point a pair have a lot of
fig trees, and I just wanted to, you know, slap
six or seven different varieties on one fig. Or you're
going to try to graft them. Yeah, because you can.
You can just graft them, do it. Yeah, and because
they take they take pretty.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Easy kind of grafted you do you did like just
a little tea yeah, yeah, oh but like citrus, yeah yeah,
the inverted tea.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah. Oh that's cool. I never see anybody do that.
Was a fig. Well, we did it with a I
was in school and we did pears and I was like, oh, well,
I've got these fig cuttings, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, because sometimes you'll see that fruit, cocktail, citrus tree. Yeah,
where they they grafted several different varieties all in the
same thing. And when you do that, one branch might
grow differently than the next day. It's kind of an
awkward thing. I don't take care ever.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Very vigorous. Yeah, but it's fun. But no, it's it's
a super niche like neat little thing where it's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I wouldn't if I did that, I'd put in a pot. Yeah,
and just keep it in a pot. And you probably
have to pune it to keep it. Kind of in
boundaries too, yeah for sure. And we never get them
for sale just to stop do not do that? Oh
so yeah, so we talked about a Yeah, I want to.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Take the moment. Yeah, we assume everyone finished putting roses
as far as I'm aware. Yeah, yeah, so that's exciting. Yeah,
you know. And then which now is a really good
time to get them while they're.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Available, right if the availability is never any better than
right now?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, if you want to get uh an actual so
you want ten of something? Oh yeah, grab them now,
grab them now, yeah, because this second they start butting up. Yeah,
they's flying out.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And then it's almost time to for your rose pruning.
Usually the rose pruning is described as the middle of February.
I always think that Valentine's Day and roses go together.
That's a good calendar day to go out there and
you do your pruning. How much you prune can depend
on the individual rose, whether it's scrowing, vigorous, or not,
what type of rose it is. If you've got climbing roses,
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you probably wouldn't prune those in February because you'd be
cutting off where your first blossoms are coming face.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
So know what your rose is.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
If you have questions called in, yeah, good time to
fertilize at that point.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Also, so and I know, like for instance, the Peggy
Martin rose right is a sometimes I think too popular
in the matriage area. Ie gorgeous. No, I love it,
I love it. I'm just picking. But well, you know
that that but like that's a weird one to print
because it's like, well when do you? When do you
print that?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Because do you if you print it early, you won't
you cut off all your flowers?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And then do you? I mean it's so vigorous a rose.
Do you cut it back heavy or not? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
That one you might actually, if you're trying to keep
it in a smaller area, you might print it more
than once.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Say, it's kind of dependent on yeah, you know, I
mean we had one growing on a fence and we
would just take it back, you know, you you just
take it back probably, I mean you end up cutting
like forty feet off because that's so big.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well, and you might do some very selective printing.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
You would do selective printing anyway.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
But you might take the big, longest ones and work
on those and bring them back to keep keep form,
but just reduce size.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And you can do that with a lot of shrubs.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
SPYRIEA You wouldn't prune your spyria right now, because you're
gonna cut off the flowers.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But when they're finished blooming, if.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
They've gotten too tall, so many people just hedge the
top and they look nasty. So you but the right
way to do it or nandina, You would follow the
long pieces back into the body of the plant and prune.
Can y'all see how I'm doing my hand, Zane's watching me.
You would follow the long pieces that back into the
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body of the plant and prune them out within that
lets a little more light in. That stimulates re growth
from the inside out. You don't have that really stubby
or blocked look, and then flimsy stuff above. So there's
a lot of different printing techniques while I'm thinking about it.
(33:57):
General thing because we mentioned it with roses, not doing
the climbing roses because their first blossom is usually on
last year's would same thing with azalias. You don't prune
azalias now because you're cut you would be cutting off
the flowers. So a general rule is if it blooms
in the spring, you prune it following it's blooming.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
If it blooms in the summer, you.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Can prune it in the late winter early spring because
that grows those bloom on new growth, and pruning it
in the springtime would allow more vigorous growth and presumably
more flowers later in the season.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So that's a good general rule.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
If it blooms early, If it blooms early in the season,
prune it after it blooms. If it blooms in the summer,
pun it early season.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And look, if all if y'all happened to forget what
we were rambling about as far as wind to prune,
don't hesitate to call the call. So you know, all.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Right, been a little shy of phone calls, and I
know there's lots of questions out there because people have
been starting to wander into the nursery more. But hopefully
we've just been covering a lot of the things that
people are interested in, but don't be shy pick up
the phone. We've got at least maybe ten minutes close
to that before the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Let me see, we kind of talked about weed and feed.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
We talked about that gentlemen called about the stickers and uh,
we talked about acherzine, We talked about weed free zone.
We kind of talked about what we Butch started calling
the cocktail years.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Ago, which is a blending.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I think that was Butch actually started I don't. Well,
we won't give them credit. I will say it was
Shirley told Busch to say that that that makes sense. Yes, so,
but uh, when you're spraying your herbicides, if you're spraying
a liquid herbicide, there's I think there's only one thing.
I can't think of what it is where it says
(35:59):
don't use an additional surfactant. Don't remember what that is
on the top of my head. But use a surfactor.
It makes a big difference. The surfactant breaks the surface tension,
and a lot of these weeds that we're spraying have
a waxy coating, a cuticle layer that it's like if
you waxed your car and sprayed water on it, the
(36:20):
water would beat up and roll off. A surfactant keeps
that from happening. It breaks the surface tension of the
droplet and lets it spread out, and it actually helps
it go through that cuticle layer into the tissue inside
where it's going to do the work that you want
it to do.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Herbicides.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Liquid herbicides are sometimes so much more effective than granules
as far as post emergant, especially in my view, and
that cocktail that we recommend, oftentimes you have to do
that with a pump spray because you're combining two different
things at different concentration rates, so you'd have to just spray.
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So this is one of my few little soap boxes.
So when you look at the herbicide bottle and it
tells you to mix it one ounce per gallon, there's
always gonna be another little portion after that. This saish
covers X amount of square feet. A lot of the
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things that we do, they give you the amount for
a thousand square feet.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So if you mix enough for a thousand.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Square feet and you sprayed over five hundred square feet,
because you're gonna spray it till it's empty, right, because yeah,
and I want it to work. First of all, More
is not better. So if you're spraying what's supposed to
be for a thousand square feet over five hundred square feet,
you just double dosed it. Your grass is not immune
to these chemicals. They are resistant to these chemicals. So
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if your grass is not healthy, if you're having some
other issues and your you might damage your lawn as
much as you're killing.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Your unwanted guest.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Okay, So dosage is extremely important, and it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Hard to do.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It's kind of hard to do. I tell people all
the time. They'll say, oh, I just spray till them empty. Oh,
I just spray a light coating. Oh I spray a
heavy coating. I don't know what that means to you.
So I am never going to agree to that statement.
When we're talking face to face, I'm going to say, again,
(38:36):
this is supposed to be this much for a thousand
square feet. It needs to be sprayed over one thousand
square feet. And they go, oh, so I just walk fast.
What's fast? Your fast is not my fast.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
The way I have.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
The best luck with the describing to somebody is first
of all, to tell them that I'm lazy. So if
a gallon is supposed to create a thousand square feet,
I'm gonna knock both of those in half. And I'm
gonna say, take your sprayer, put a half a gallon
of water in it. It's supposed to cover five hundred
square feet. Go to your driveway and mark off a
(39:13):
block that's ten feet by fifty feet. That's five hundred
square feet.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Take that.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Take that pump sprayer with the water. Pump it up
and start spraying on the concrete. We're doing it on
the concrete so you can see the pattern.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
You just need to calibrate yourself. That's right.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So Okay, I'm spraying, I get halfway through and I
run out. Well, i'm walking too slow. If I get
to the end, I have a lot left, I'm walking
too fast.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Well, and that's the same with the push using a
push sprayder, right, you know you want to make sure, right.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
So if I'm really badly off, I'm gonna wait ten
minutes here in Baton Rouge, the concrete is going to
be dry. About half a gallon over five hundred square
feet is nothing. It's gonna dry off. I'm gonna do
it again. All I'm teaching myself. I'm calibrating myself for
how fast I need to walk. That's it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Now, you like to.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Use the the colorant. Yeah, and there's that way you
can actually see. That's a good idea. Me. If I'm
doing large areas, I actually put strings out. Can't go
on to that on air, but be glad to tell anybody.
So we've got a collar and we don't have a
lot of time left, so we're going to jump to Kathy, Kathy,
good morning, thanks for calling the wjbol on the Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
What's up, Hi, I.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Have a philodendron that frows and it's in the ground.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yep, I'm pretty sure you could go ahead and take
that all the way down to the ground. Is the
trunk does it have a trunk formed? And is the
trunk still green?
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, anything that's mushy, Yeah, it's pretty safe
to go ahead and clean get that stuff out right,
you know. That's like, so, see you had bananas, all right,
if they're mushy, let's just go.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I'll just tell you if you ever have a really
bad and you have bananas, cut them and get them
into the compost pile before they defrost.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Hard.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, it's hard to carry around mush It's easy to
carry out a frozen banana stalk, but hard to a
mushy one. But Kathy, yeah, okay, but if I trim
it and then we have another freeze, I.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Would just pile some mulch on top of it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, just because by then it's small, it'll be easy
to cover, breake some leaves on it. Zane does that
a lot, so yeah, so it's not.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hard any any kind of mount layer just to protect it.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, but I would mulch leaves, whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Because that stuff is not going to get less mushy.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
The sooner you can cut it off and move it,
the easier to be. Or you know, sometimes I cut
and just shove that to the back of the bed
and just let it decompose.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yep, because I'm lazy.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I'm pretty I'm pretty well.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
They too nasty to save.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, so just just cut it loose and
push it over off the plant. That way the decomposition,
the rot doesn't move into what you have left of
good tissue.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Okay, and just let reasprite.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Okay, but if we do get another freeze, just pile
something on it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yep. Okay, all right, take care, Kathy. Yeah, that was
an easy question.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
That was good easy, but very important.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well, like philodendron, uh, that is one party little plant.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
It is there's something outside the building here.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, and you'll be convinced they're dead after a hard
freeze and you put them in a compost pile.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, that typically what happens. Yeah, you throw them away,
You throw them like me, I've got a wood edge.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I thought something all of a sudden, I swear it's
a dead trump. Yeah, you know, and it's like then
it leaves out in me. Yeah. So well as always
it's a pleasure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, I mean we've got a minute and a half,
so what can we talk about a minute now?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Go out there.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
There are some things gingers. Trim them all the way down,
get rid of them, throw those.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah. I would leave your flags slowly alone. Probably.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah. A lot of times the flags have a little
green well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
If it depends on how.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, if it's an eyesore, I would cut it down,
and then if we're going to have another freeze, I
would pull some leaves or something up over the top
of them, just to give them a little protection.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I don't know that I'd fertilize those types of things
quite yet. I'd push it a little bit later. Uh,
mid to probably the latter part of February.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Would wait till it gets warm.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, regularly. Yeah, other shrubs, uh you could you know,
middle to a lot of part of February for just
your basic shrubs.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Ozias.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
We usually say after the flower, after they flower, Uh,
don't prone after when we talked about pooning after they bloom. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We covered a lot of stuff today. Yeah. Yeah, there's
always it's closures. Yeah, it's great to be here. Don't forget.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
We're on the iHeartRadio w JBO Long Garden Show. We're
here every Saturday from eight to nine. Uh, get your
questions ready. Springs right around the corner, Go out, which
walk the yard, make some notes, come by the store,
Wait till next Saturday. Yeah, baton rouge, get out and
enjoy this gorgeous day.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Y'all have a great day.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine two six.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good morning on a beautiful Baton Rouge morning. This morning, yep,
I'm here this morning was Zaane Mercer, Jeremy Porcine. My
name is Scott ricca Zaye and I are from Cleggs.
Jeremy's not, but he does a good job for Cleggs.
I'm very appreciative that he's here. Thank you, Jeremy. No,
it is a wonderful isn't it. Though it's a little
(00:43):
on the chili side, but it's gonna warm up.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's nice.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That's where I wore shorts, you know me. I was like,
I want to I don't even have a sweatshirt on.
I'm yeah either, just the dog. So yeah, it's it's
nice day out and warm up. Well, I can't ever
get used to our temperature fluctuations in the winter. I've
lived to your almost my whole life.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, and I haily lived here my whole life. But
you know it's a it is.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, you know, take take the good winner's here and
you know, just living once.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
One second, I'm wearing overalls, next second, I'm wearing shorts,
and I could probably go swimming.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, you see, I wear my overalls winter it's hot.
Sometimes it just depends on what activity I'm doing. So
oh yeah, they're they're a little bit more ventilated.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
See I own car herd. I can't I just swim. So,
you know, we got a lot of stuff going on
at the nurseries we do. It's you know, it's kind
of a change in seasons.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, uh, springs coming up the heck it might be
here today, not on the calendar, but uh in actuality,
feeling exactly a lot of people coming in lately with
lots of questions what to do, what to do about
the freeze that we had a lot of people coming
in for weed, controlling their lawns. All my vegetables got
(01:57):
messed up, and what kind of plant now? I mean,
there's a lot lot of things going on.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah you know what I mean. It's potato time, Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It is potato time. We got plenty of potatoes plenty.
Is that such an easy thing to grow?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I was talking to a she was a little old lady.
I'm not going to guess her age, but you know,
she was like, I've never done potatoes, and so I
think I'm gonna get one or two potatoes and go trying.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And she's going to do them in the ground or
in the pot.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
She was going to do them in a pot. Yeah,
and that's what I do. Well, was it you that
was here with Butcher?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And he always talks about doing it with the with
the grandkids, you know, and dipping a pot over at
mother Day or whatever. Such an easy thing to do
and the yield is good. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Mean, what was it? I did it last year and
I just had a forty five gallon pot at the house.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Which had How big is a forty five gallon pot?
For the people they I've never seen one. Oh, it's
probably four foot wide. Four foot wide? Yeah, four foot wide,
we'll say three and a half foot tall. Well, how
much sure to take to fill it to the top
before you plant your potatoes in it?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So I put my potatoes in first, and then just
a few.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Wes no no soil on the just a little bit,
just a little bit, just to cover the plastic on
the bottom.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And then did what and then cover the potatoes with
a little bit of soil.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That didn't take much, right, No, no, no, so most
of the pasta empty it was.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And then as they grew, you just keep adding soil.
It's kind of neat.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You totally cover the green. No, I leave a little bit,
leave a little bit green, and it just keeps growing up. Yeah, spot,
were you asking all these questions because the people on
the other end don't know, so, you know, we we
bring up the subject matter.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I want them to know just how simple it is.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, by the end of furtilizer. Every now and again,
when you put your new soil, and I just use
kelsea nitrate because it's what sure but which is great
for tomatoes. And it's getting close to I mean, we
have tomatoes right now at the store. But I'm not
I'm not into that much work doing it that early.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But you go ahead, No, but yeah, just by the
time you're finished, by the time it's actually time to
tip that bucket over, you filled it up with soil,
and I just used I had busted bags from a project.
I had just some leftover bag so it's just a
mix and they're not super particular, just something well drunk.
So around Mother's Day, which is in May. Yeah, yeah,
(04:18):
that's checked.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So when the plant, how do you know when it's time.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Uh, the green like the tops of the potatoes. Yeah,
we'll start to get we'll say tired, tired, so you're
not taking care of it properly, right, it'll start to
kind of yellow. That's what it does.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's not like, oh my god, you're dying yellow.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They'll start to flat and some yeah, and then it's
just that's when it's time to go ahead and tip
them over.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Now, yeah, a forty five gallon container can be hard
to tip over for some people. It was so they
so they could hand dig some out.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, they could just hand dig some of that.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And the potatoes are kind of in layers. How you
laid your dirt, right, Yes, it's what happens. Every time
you put more dirt the stem that you just covered,
the roots come out from that sideways and that's where
the potatoes are made. So they started a level and
then the plant grows higher you put more dirt, it
does that again.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So you have layer, layer, layer, and so it's kind
of neat.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But they could do like a fifteen gallon contender, which
would be easy.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
To flip over. Yeah, fifteen gallon, Yeah, don't Yeah. I
just like having big I just like messing with having
big buckets at the house.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh yeah, there's a song about that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh wait, okay, so but no, I mean that's a
neat little project.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, and easy and really and and but did with grandkids.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's great for kids. Potatoes and carrots. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I actually introduced a family that was shopping the other
day to pulling a carrot out of the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
A little girl, I don't know, she was seven. You
took her next door.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I took her next door and let her pull
a carrot out and uh and she was just like
fascinated when it came out the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah. I mean, and and carrots and like your ah,
your root crops. Just in general, those are so neat
because the don't have a little bit of the top exposed,
but you don't really realize in what you've done it
before just how much is underneath. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And they're easy, Yeah, most all that stuff is easy.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's something you can just if you have a little
spot you could fill in or pot Yeah, just like
you do. Cool.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Cool, Well, we're here. We have open phone lines this morning.
You can join us with picking up the phone call
on four six that's four nine nine WJBO.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'll just go ahead and throw out right now.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
We do have the iHeartRadio that you can access for
free on your phone or computers at WJBO Long and
Garden Show. Actually, that's probably how I was reminded of
Butch with his grandkids doing the potatoes, because sometimes when
I'm driving along, like to listen to what y'all talked
about when I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, do you ever listen to yourself? It's that's not
my voice. I make it about fifteen seconds. That's not
my voice. I must skip this one.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I have had to go back on my on shows
that I was on, like to reference something like Bill
Rountree of variety. Sometimes you'll give these variety of names,
and and I have to go back and find it
so I hear myself.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But what's like the cheering one? Yes, I keep going
back to that one because I can't remember. I can't
ever remember the cultivar name that's right, you know? Or
like he talked about we talked about flux one time
and it was like, I can't remember that.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, And Bill, you know, that's his job. He plans
and he doesn't like to do the same old, same o.
He likes to try something new, bringing new things. And
so he's very much experience with the different varieties and
their performance, and so it's nice to talk to him.
And Alan Owens hears things from he travels around to
(07:43):
different shows and so so you know that brings in
something new. And you and I we get exposure to
certain things, but we don't plant so much.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
We don't watch house, you know now like I mean,
and I'll look at so like for instance, Bill plants
a bunch of Gordonia or Gordlinea. I forget it comes to.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That one of your house looks like it's nice. I
remember I by your house the other day. I love
that the reddish tone to it. But I was familiar
with the Gordonia. But then the gordon that the new,
the cultivar, the blending of the two, well, I.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Just I think that's just kind of neat that we
kind of we find something. And for those nut in
the know, there's a a native tree called a franklinea.
And then they crossed it with a Gordonia.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Right, and those have a flower like a small magnolia.
They're in a magnolia family, and they're very, very beautiful,
and you don't find them. Even when we find some,
we don't get many. No, we get a handful.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean it may be like I was in a
pickle try to come up with an order, right, and
that they were like, oh well we'll take those, and
it's like, oh great, yeah, now I gotta find them. Yeah,
you know, but it's you know, it's just it's a
neat little plant, a small shape, small tree, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Small fifteen feet yeah, I mean I've stayed at Franklin
the AA that was humongous one time in the past.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And it was pictures about twenty ish to thirty.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Right, Yeah, it was probably about thirty feet. It was
an old one, which I think that was actually named
by or after Franklin, Benjamin Franklin.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yes, so, I been so long. It's Benjamin Franklin's like
nephew founded or something.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, And it wasn't something that was found in large
numbers in nature anyway. It's a very I think I
don't want to use the word rare, but unusual.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, well it's a native plant found at botanical gardens,
not in out Yeah, yeah, you don't, you know, right
so so, but it's a neat little plant. Same with
that that osmanthus the sweet out of you some when
we were well, say, touring the snow. Yeah, you know,
it was just stuff like that, whereas you just don't
(10:04):
see if area often. So it's neat when we get those.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, we've had and you know, new plants and you know,
things look and this is a great time to look
because a lot of times, if it's a plant we
don't get many of we get them in the fall
and early spring, and then it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, and that's kind of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So but I've had a number of people in at
the Griminal Springs location, you know, picking up the bags
of the weed and feed right now because they start
to see some weeds in their yard or they're scared
that their lawns suffered from the from the snow, and
so they want to get out there and give it
some fertilizer.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And and it's not really the time for that, is it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No, I've been dealing with that, and then you know,
you want to go out and spray, which by all
means yes, spray for I.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Understand what you know, spray for like your clover for
weed control or weed control right right, which they it's
perfect time for that, right you know.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But but then if it'll win it by that, they
want to get the whed and feed too.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
There's a I think there's a lot of people that
don't understand when we say wheat and feed that is
a combination of fertilizer and herbicide. So you know, you
don't wet and feed and spray at the same time.
(11:26):
And if we say it's too early to fertilize, oh well,
I'll just put out this wheat and feed. Well, the
feed is the fertilizer. If it's too early to do
it by itself, it's too early. Fertilization of your lawn
early it's bad for a number of reasons. First of all,
if your grass is dormant, your fertilizer starts to release,
(11:47):
and the nitrogen, which you really want for your.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Grass, starts to actually leave.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You know, it goes into solution and can wash away,
and so you're paying for all that fertilizer and it's
washing away before you plant. Can ever reutilize it, so
you're paying for it not even getting the use of it.
If you put it early, you can help promote fungal problems.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If you put it out.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Early and your grass is not growing, but you have
weeds there, guess what starts to feed on the fertilizer,
right right, So early fertilization of your lawns is not good.
So Saint Augustine usually doesn't go as dormant as the other,
so it starts off growing earlier in the season. Usually,
(12:30):
I don't usually recommend a fertilization on March. On Saint
Augustine before March, and then Centipede, it's the end of
March or April before it's really kicking in. And I
loved what But you used to see all the time
for when to put out your lawn fertilize. He goes
after you mow it the second time, because usually the
first mowing first you're just cutting it. Yeah, you just
(12:53):
chopping leaves and watch chopped leaves all winter, but the
weeds are starting to get tall. And then the second
time you mow is because the grass started to grow
and you needed to mow the grass. Now it's you know,
it's active. You know, it's awake, you know, it's just
woke up. And now he's hungry for breakfast. It's time
to give him something. Yeah, I mean that's a that's
(13:14):
a great way to think about that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's good. If there's one good thing Butcher's ever told.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Me, I'm just gonna leave that right there.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah. And uh, when you're Scott.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Rick and we're both from Clegs and we're here to
the end of the hour kind of to take a
loan and the garden questions, So if you have any questions,
pick up the phone, give us a call at six.
That's four nine nine w j b O. We do
have a caller already. Let's go to Lee. Thanks for
calling and what are you What do you got going
(13:48):
on this morning?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yes, we need starting to treat against a stick of grass.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's a great time to start, Lee because most people
don't realize it. They don't start treating their stickers until
they walk out and step on one and go, oh,
I have stickers. But the thing that they stepped on
that stuck their foot is actually the seed and the
sticker together. So stickers usually sprout in the fall h
(14:15):
September October. And so like many weeds, the smaller and
younger they are, the easier they are to kill. It's
a great time to get after them. Right now, Lee,
What do I use?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
There's a few different products that weat free zone, and
the atrozine works very well on it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
We actually in many cases recommend using those two products
together if you have a really bad weed problem in
your yard. But yeah, either the weat free zone or
the atrozine or the combination that is often coming a
well weed seak free zone correct that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Somebody absolutely absolutely and dying what I do? Let it go?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, just let the leaves fall off. They're gonna they're
gonna fall off. There's nothing you can do about those
ones that were damaged by the cold.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Now, what you what we all.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Need to be aware of and continue to watch, is
how much stem damage did we receive. I have an
orange tree looks just like your orange tree, and I
had to walked around the other side of the house
to look at my other citrus trees because it's kind
of wet over there, and I've been busy, and I
don't Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I don't want to look out. I don't want to
depress myself so I'm gonna let those leaves fall off. Well.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Typically we tell you to prune, if necessary, prune your
citrus trees in the middle of February if you have damage,
I would not if you were going to prune, I
would not prune in the middle of February. I would
delay that all the way end of April into May,
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just so that you know exactly where the damage.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Stopped, because the tree will leaf out right and then
from there you can actually see right, yeah, you'll see
where it's top leaf out. So I need to go
ahead and print it out.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And now don't forget you need to fertilize. It's going
to take you know, the proper nutrition for the tree
to grow back out and relief. So typically we recommend
two fertilizations of citrus per year. I usually recommend near
the end of February near the end of June. Although
(16:38):
packages recommend you do a fall fertilization for your citrus,
we do not recommend that in our region because of
the way we have the weird temperature fluctuations in the
fall and early winter.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It can trick the tree.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You can have a lot of new foliage and then
that newfoldage might be damaged heavily and you would end
up behind where you were if you had done nothing
thing for the fall. But most people don't fertilize enough.
So make sure you look at the packages of citrus
tree for the first several years of its life. It's
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like a pound and a half of fertilizer for every
one inch of trunk diameter. All right, so that's a
pretty fair amount of fertilizer. Most people just put like
a couple of handfuls and think that's enough. That's like
you're really starving and somebody gives you a trisk it
it's not going to do, okay, Yeah, all right, So
(17:32):
don't rush to prune, don't forget the fertilize.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Just let those leaves fall off naturally.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Okay, got it, all right, Lee, have a great day.
Lots of questions about citrus in the last few days,
and I'm sure we'll have more and more to come.
Are they going to bloom and bear fruit this year?
I don't know, Yeah, don't know. I have a dwarf
lemon that I do tarp only had a one hundred
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and fifty white light bulb under there, so and I
tarped with plastic, so everything that the cold, every leaf
that was touching the plastic is browned. I still have green.
Will it bloom a lemon probably maybe not the first bloom,
but a lemon can bloom multiple times in the year,
(18:18):
so I will get some lemons on my lemon tree.
But my orange trees, I don't know how much tissue
damage we have.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, and i'd expect my satsuma, which it took some damage.
I'd expect if I get fruit it wasn't. It's not
gonna be very much.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We had a lot of bad years in the last
few years. I think my decline of fruit production started
with that late freeze in March.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Was that three years ago? Four years ago? I don't
even remember anymore?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Ago, Yeah, so yeah, I haven't had my trees truly,
haven't recovered since that yet.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And I always forget to treat for leaf footed bugs.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So that's usually what yeah, which is what a lot
of people call stink bugs, but it's different, but they're related.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
First know, which is corner of the yard. I just
don't go. I don't want to drag a hose out
and spray it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, I don't like to spray very much.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's just by time.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, by the time you do stuff like that
at work and this you get homes like not at work,
I don't feel.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
So so you know, citrus, don't forget to just they're
gonna be brown. You're gonna lose a lot of foliage.
You might not have any stem damage, it might just
leap out just fine, but it's gonna need nutrition for that.
Make sure you if you don't do anything else for
your tree, make sure you fertilize it this spring to
help it flush back out and get back off on.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
A better foote.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The fertilization in the summertime really helps with fruit production
for the following year. So that's very beneficial and not
the not the fall fertilization for citrus.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, I wish they didn't that on well.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But for other reasons. It's perfectly fine, but not for
our reason.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
And even when you read something on the internet or
in the book, you always have to think, is this
right for my proper for my geographic rooms is general?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Or did this person that wrote this article where they
in Minnesota and going by Minnesota conditions? Uh? They tell
you how to do something with the soil was their
soil the same as our soil. I mean, there's a
lot of things you have to consider even when you're
reading it. And that's why, I mean, we are so
lucky to have the LSU University here. There are tons
(20:35):
of agricultural and horticultural hints on their website lsue accenter
dot com. There's an excellent one on citrus, and that
one's an easy one because if you you can either
put in the keyword citrus or the publication number for
that one is so easy to remember. It is publication one, two, three, four,
and just all kinds of things about the different types
(20:55):
of citrus, the different cold heartiness, because not all citrus
are equally hold hardy, fertilization rates are on there, bug problems,
they have, disease problem, all kinds of stuff when the
plant tomatoes, you know, just you know, the vegetable planting
guide that we pass out. We we borrow that from
l s U. Now we add some stuff on the
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flip side.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I mean their calendar that we will we will carry
their calendar all year. Yeah, but their calendar alone, Yeah,
that all kinds of little just little tidbits of information, reminders. Yeah,
you know, like because I'm forgetful about a moment putting
out my sulfur HyG dranges and stuff. Yeah, I have
a calendar.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, well right now, for nothing else, you can change
the oil in your lawnmower, sharpened blades because almost time.
So what else we've got? You know, we have a
lot of people had problems with their vegetable gardens, and
we probably have some time to do some of the
fall crops. Probably have some time to do some of
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those again, if we wanted before it gets too hot, yeah,
before it gets too hot. Certainly you could do lettuces.
You could probably do some kale. Something lady asked me
yesterday about Brussels sprouts. I would say no, that kind
of takes a long time. And there are people that
already buying transplants. We kind of touched on tomatoes earlier.
(22:22):
Some people are buying tomatoes now and putting them in
a larger cup. I wouldn't put them in the ground,
but they're bumping them up to a larger size. That
just gives you a bigger head start. Yeah, yeah, right
now we have Melissa. Melissa took time to pick up
the phone and call four six. It's four h nine wjbo.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Hey, we have a question.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
We have a satsumetry probably about thirty years old, I guess,
and for the last several years it makes really large fruit,
but the peelings on them, the skin is like really.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Bumpy really and then nick and then when you do
it it's dry on the inside. Yeah, ahay. They have a
name for that. They call it puffy fruit. Now, that's
that's really common on young trees, usually five years or
less or after the tree has gone through some trauma
(23:19):
like freeze, so there's not anything that you can do
about that. The tree has to work hisself through it. Now,
sometimes you'll get a weird looking fruit if the rootstock
has started to grow. But if your tree is that old,
I doubt it's a rootstock problem. And if it was
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a rootstock problem, the leaves would look different. Instead of
having what we refer to as a single leaf, a
single pattern where it's just one point, you would have
something that looks more like a clover leaf or it
has three lobes. For people that are listening that it
might have that problem, and they would have lots of
thorns on that also. So yeah, what you're going through
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is called puffy fruit. Make sure that you give a
good fertilization anything to help it get through the stress
that costs this. So there's a good chance that we
might have some puffy fruit this season from the cold,
if you get fruit at all. So when you see that,
because you can see that large, you're thinking the first
(24:23):
time you see it, you think, man, look at the
size of this, it's.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Going to be great.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well, now that you know, in midsummer, when you start
seeing them trying to get.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Oversized, just go pick those off.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Okay, don't let the tree waste the energy on it
because it's not going to be good, and it can
use that energy instead of making a bigger puffy fruit
into something else more valuable for the tree.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
And still fertilize it in that condition.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Just quite the year, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, and the February end of June, all right, thank
you welcome.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I can remember the first time ever seeing those ye
and thinking, wow, this is to be great.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And then it's like these are nasty.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Oh yeah, and I and there's people all the time coming, man,
I got these really big ones. It's gonna be great.
It's like, yeah, those aren't gonna be any good.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Well, I mean the year we bought the bought our house,
uh huh. That year that's said there's three sets soon
was in the corner. Uh huh. They were all horrible.
Oh yeah, you know, and that's just so disappointing. So
it's better. It's better to go cut them off so
you're not disappointed later. All. The best part is I
didn't even know. I thought it was just rootstock because
there was a fifteen foot tall section of rootstock. Oh
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oh so and then it was just all weeds and overgrown.
So I was like, oh cool, there set zum was
under here. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, oh,
they're not They're not tasty. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So citrus are most citrus that are sold in our
region are grafted. You can buy non grafted citrus from
certain places in town now on occasion, usually in smaller containers.
The root stock is usually uh some form of citrus trifoliata.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So try three folio foliage.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It will have bless you, It'll have three lobes, kind
of like a clover.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I think of a bird's foot.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, if you ever see that on your citrus tree,
that's wrong and you should follow that stem all the
way down to the ground or wherever it originates, and
remove it as quickly as you see it. Otherwise it
will steal energy from your fruit production portion and can
smother and kill the fruit production point. So it usually
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has lots and lots of thorns. So if you have
a satsuma and you see lots of thorns in your satsuma,
that's wrong. However, there is a new satsuma that does
have some orange, but it's not the same way.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
But the new.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Satsuma with the thorns doesn't have that three petal bird's foot.
It's just got a normal leaf. And other citrus like lemons,
they have thorns. Some grape fruits they can have thorns.
You can have thorns on other types of citrus. So
the thorn isn't always an indicator that it is the
wrong thing, but sometimes mostly for a satsuma, it would
(27:24):
be or come.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Quiet sumaume quitts, oranges.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, things that aren't supposed to have stormed. There are some
oranges that sometimes have thorns.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So, but I find it's like the more juvenile stems.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Usually right once the tree gets more mature, unless it's
had some severe damage, you don't usually see the rootstock
coming back up and it And when you look at
a tree where it's grafted at the bottom, even when
they get older, it's usually very apparent where that graft is.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh yeah, kind of a not almost.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, I've got my blood orange is huge and the
base is probably twelve inches in diameter, and when it
comes up about five inches, all of a sudden, that
twelve inch diameter shrinks to eight inch diameter, so that
that's where that graft union was initially.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, I know. Quick. You mentioned you can get non
grafted citrus. Yes. Uh, I'm of the opinion that should
always be in a container.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I would be Also, the rootstock adds some of its
character to what's grafted on to it, so I mentioned
earlier I have a dwarf lemon. Yes, well, my lemon
is a mere lemon from that graft up. It's the
same Meyer lemon as anybody would buy. Yep, mind doesn't
(28:41):
grow as tall because it's grafted onto a root stock
whose character is to stay low, lower or grown away.
That doesn't promote high growth. From that point up, it's
the same, but the rootstock is giving some of its
character to the to the citrus grafts on to it.
Most of the rootstocks are more cold hardy than the
(29:05):
fruit bearing portion, so it gives some of that cold
hardiness to whatever is grafted onto it. So there's a
benefit there. If nothing else, they're more cold hardy.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah. And I found it was if you did, because
I knew someone that would do cuttings. Huh. And it's
kind of the same with some of the rose cultivars. Yeah,
you know you want to, Oh, I really like this rose,
I'm gonna do a cutting of it.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, that's great if you want one or two. But
a lot of times roses don't grow well on their
own rootstock.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
No, no, but it's like just with the amount of
rainfall we get typically find more issues. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
So but you know, I'm not saying don't do it, no,
not at all. That there are some things like a fig.
My goodness, gracious, you can take a fig cutting just
about whenever and just turn your back around and it's rooted.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I mean it was. I mean I wanted to remember
there was one point a pair have a lot of
fig trees, and I just wanted to, you know, slap
six or seven different varieties on one fig. Or you're
going to try to graft them. Yeah, because you can.
You can just graft them, do it. Yeah, and because
they take they take pretty.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Easy kind of grafted you do you did like just
a little tea yeah, yeah, oh but like citrus, yeah yeah,
the inverted tea.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah. Oh that's cool. I never see anybody do that.
Was a fig. Well, we did it with a I
was in school and we did pears and I was like, oh, well,
I've got these fig cuttings, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, because sometimes you'll see that fruit, cocktail, citrus tree. Yeah,
where they they grafted several different varieties all in the
same thing. And when you do that, one branch might
grow differently than the next day. It's kind of an
awkward thing. I don't take care ever.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Very vigorous. Yeah, but it's fun. But no, it's it's
a super niche like neat little thing where it's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I wouldn't if I did that, I'd put in a pot. Yeah,
and just keep it in a pot. And you probably
have to pune it to keep it. Kind of in
boundaries too, yeah for sure. And we never get them
for sale just to stop do not do that? Oh
so yeah, so we talked about a Yeah, I want to.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Take the moment. Yeah, we assume everyone finished putting roses
as far as I'm aware. Yeah, yeah, so that's exciting. Yeah,
you know. And then which now is a really good
time to get them while they're.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Available, right if the availability is never any better than
right now?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, if you want to get uh an actual so
you want ten of something? Oh yeah, grab them now,
grab them now, yeah, because this second they start butting up. Yeah,
they's flying out.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And then it's almost time to for your rose pruning.
Usually the rose pruning is described as the middle of February.
I always think that Valentine's Day and roses go together.
That's a good calendar day to go out there and
you do your pruning. How much you prune can depend
on the individual rose, whether it's scrowing, vigorous, or not,
what type of rose it is. If you've got climbing roses,
(32:00):
you probably wouldn't prune those in February because you'd be
cutting off where your first blossoms are coming face.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
So know what your rose is.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
If you have questions called in, yeah, good time to
fertilize at that point.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Also, so and I know, like for instance, the Peggy
Martin rose right is a sometimes I think too popular
in the matriage area. Ie gorgeous. No, I love it,
I love it. I'm just picking. But well, you know
that that but like that's a weird one to print
because it's like, well when do you? When do you
print that?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Because do you if you print it early, you won't
you cut off all your flowers?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And then do you? I mean it's so vigorous a rose.
Do you cut it back heavy or not? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
That one you might actually, if you're trying to keep
it in a smaller area, you might print it more
than once.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Say, it's kind of dependent on yeah, you know, I
mean we had one growing on a fence and we
would just take it back, you know, you you just
take it back probably, I mean you end up cutting
like forty feet off because that's so big.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well, and you might do some very selective printing.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
You would do selective printing anyway.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
But you might take the big, longest ones and work
on those and bring them back to keep keep form,
but just reduce size.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And you can do that with a lot of shrubs.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
SPYRIEA You wouldn't prune your spyria right now, because you're
gonna cut off the flowers.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But when they're finished blooming, if.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
They've gotten too tall, so many people just hedge the
top and they look nasty. So you but the right
way to do it or nandina, You would follow the
long pieces back into the body of the plant and prune.
Can y'all see how I'm doing my hand, Zane's watching me.
You would follow the long pieces that back into the
(33:35):
body of the plant and prune them out within that
lets a little more light in. That stimulates re growth
from the inside out. You don't have that really stubby
or blocked look, and then flimsy stuff above. So there's
a lot of different printing techniques while I'm thinking about it.
(33:57):
General thing because we mentioned it with roses, not doing
the climbing roses because their first blossom is usually on
last year's would same thing with azalias. You don't prune
azalias now because you're cut you would be cutting off
the flowers. So a general rule is if it blooms
in the spring, you prune it following it's blooming.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
If it blooms in the summer, you.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Can prune it in the late winter early spring because
that grows those bloom on new growth, and pruning it
in the springtime would allow more vigorous growth and presumably
more flowers later in the season.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So that's a good general rule.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
If it blooms early, If it blooms early in the season,
prune it after it blooms. If it blooms in the summer,
pun it early season.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And look, if all if y'all happened to forget what
we were rambling about as far as wind to prune,
don't hesitate to call the call. So you know, all.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Right, been a little shy of phone calls, and I
know there's lots of questions out there because people have
been starting to wander into the nursery more. But hopefully
we've just been covering a lot of the things that
people are interested in, but don't be shy pick up
the phone. We've got at least maybe ten minutes close
to that before the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Let me see, we kind of talked about weed and feed.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
We talked about that gentlemen called about the stickers and uh,
we talked about acherzine, We talked about weed free zone.
We kind of talked about what we Butch started calling
the cocktail years.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Ago, which is a blending.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I think that was Butch actually started I don't. Well,
we won't give them credit. I will say it was
Shirley told Busch to say that that that makes sense. Yes, so,
but uh, when you're spraying your herbicides, if you're spraying
a liquid herbicide, there's I think there's only one thing.
I can't think of what it is where it says
(35:59):
don't use an additional surfactant. Don't remember what that is
on the top of my head. But use a surfactor.
It makes a big difference. The surfactant breaks the surface tension,
and a lot of these weeds that we're spraying have
a waxy coating, a cuticle layer that it's like if
you waxed your car and sprayed water on it, the
(36:20):
water would beat up and roll off. A surfactant keeps
that from happening. It breaks the surface tension of the
droplet and lets it spread out, and it actually helps
it go through that cuticle layer into the tissue inside
where it's going to do the work that you want
it to do.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Herbicides.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Liquid herbicides are sometimes so much more effective than granules
as far as post emergant, especially in my view, and
that cocktail that we recommend, oftentimes you have to do
that with a pump spray because you're combining two different
things at different concentration rates, so you'd have to just spray.
(37:01):
So this is one of my few little soap boxes.
So when you look at the herbicide bottle and it
tells you to mix it one ounce per gallon, there's
always gonna be another little portion after that. This saish
covers X amount of square feet. A lot of the
(37:22):
things that we do, they give you the amount for
a thousand square feet.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So if you mix enough for a thousand.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Square feet and you sprayed over five hundred square feet,
because you're gonna spray it till it's empty, right, because yeah,
and I want it to work. First of all, More
is not better. So if you're spraying what's supposed to
be for a thousand square feet over five hundred square feet,
you just double dosed it. Your grass is not immune
to these chemicals. They are resistant to these chemicals. So
(37:55):
if your grass is not healthy, if you're having some
other issues and your you might damage your lawn as
much as you're killing.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Your unwanted guest.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Okay, So dosage is extremely important, and it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Hard to do.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It's kind of hard to do. I tell people all
the time. They'll say, oh, I just spray till them empty. Oh,
I just spray a light coating. Oh I spray a
heavy coating. I don't know what that means to you.
So I am never going to agree to that statement.
When we're talking face to face, I'm going to say, again,
(38:36):
this is supposed to be this much for a thousand
square feet. It needs to be sprayed over one thousand
square feet. And they go, oh, so I just walk fast.
What's fast? Your fast is not my fast.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
The way I have.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
The best luck with the describing to somebody is first
of all, to tell them that I'm lazy. So if
a gallon is supposed to create a thousand square feet,
I'm gonna knock both of those in half. And I'm
gonna say, take your sprayer, put a half a gallon
of water in it. It's supposed to cover five hundred
square feet. Go to your driveway and mark off a
(39:13):
block that's ten feet by fifty feet. That's five hundred
square feet.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Take that.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Take that pump sprayer with the water. Pump it up
and start spraying on the concrete. We're doing it on
the concrete so you can see the pattern.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
You just need to calibrate yourself. That's right.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So Okay, I'm spraying, I get halfway through and I
run out. Well, i'm walking too slow. If I get
to the end, I have a lot left, I'm walking
too fast.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Well, and that's the same with the push using a
push sprayder, right, you know you want to make sure, right.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
So if I'm really badly off, I'm gonna wait ten
minutes here in Baton Rouge, the concrete is going to
be dry. About half a gallon over five hundred square
feet is nothing. It's gonna dry off. I'm gonna do
it again. All I'm teaching myself. I'm calibrating myself for
how fast I need to walk. That's it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Now, you like to.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Use the the colorant. Yeah, and there's that way you
can actually see. That's a good idea. Me. If I'm
doing large areas, I actually put strings out. Can't go
on to that on air, but be glad to tell anybody.
So we've got a collar and we don't have a
lot of time left, so we're going to jump to Kathy, Kathy,
good morning, thanks for calling the wjbol on the Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
What's up, Hi, I.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Have a philodendron that frows and it's in the ground.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yep, I'm pretty sure you could go ahead and take
that all the way down to the ground. Is the
trunk does it have a trunk formed? And is the
trunk still green?
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, anything that's mushy, Yeah, it's pretty safe
to go ahead and clean get that stuff out right,
you know. That's like, so, see you had bananas, all right,
if they're mushy, let's just go.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I'll just tell you if you ever have a really
bad and you have bananas, cut them and get them
into the compost pile before they defrost.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Hard.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, it's hard to carry around mush It's easy to
carry out a frozen banana stalk, but hard to a
mushy one. But Kathy, yeah, okay, but if I trim
it and then we have another freeze, I.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Would just pile some mulch on top of it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, just because by then it's small, it'll be easy
to cover, breake some leaves on it. Zane does that
a lot, so yeah, so it's not.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hard any any kind of mount layer just to protect it.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, but I would mulch leaves, whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Because that stuff is not going to get less mushy.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
The sooner you can cut it off and move it,
the easier to be. Or you know, sometimes I cut
and just shove that to the back of the bed
and just let it decompose.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yep, because I'm lazy.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I'm pretty I'm pretty well.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
They too nasty to save.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, so just just cut it loose and
push it over off the plant. That way the decomposition,
the rot doesn't move into what you have left of
good tissue.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Okay, and just let reasprite.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Okay, but if we do get another freeze, just pile
something on it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yep. Okay, all right, take care, Kathy. Yeah, that was
an easy question.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
That was good easy, but very important.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well, like philodendron, uh, that is one party little plant.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
It is there's something outside the building here.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, and you'll be convinced they're dead after a hard
freeze and you put them in a compost pile.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, that typically what happens. Yeah, you throw them away,
You throw them like me, I've got a wood edge.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I thought something all of a sudden, I swear it's
a dead trump. Yeah, you know, and it's like then
it leaves out in me. Yeah. So well as always
it's a pleasure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, I mean we've got a minute and a half,
so what can we talk about a minute now?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Go out there.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
There are some things gingers. Trim them all the way down,
get rid of them, throw those.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah. I would leave your flags slowly alone. Probably.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah. A lot of times the flags have a little
green well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
If it depends on how.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, if it's an eyesore, I would cut it down,
and then if we're going to have another freeze, I
would pull some leaves or something up over the top
of them, just to give them a little protection.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I don't know that I'd fertilize those types of things
quite yet. I'd push it a little bit later. Uh,
mid to probably the latter part of February.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Would wait till it gets warm.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, regularly. Yeah, other shrubs, uh you could you know,
middle to a lot of part of February for just
your basic shrubs.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Ozias.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
We usually say after the flower, after they flower, Uh,
don't prone after when we talked about pooning after they bloom. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We covered a lot of stuff today. Yeah. Yeah, there's
always it's closures. Yeah, it's great to be here. Don't forget.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
We're on the iHeartRadio w JBO Long Garden Show. We're
here every Saturday from eight to nine. Uh, get your
questions ready. Springs right around the corner, Go out, which
walk the yard, make some notes, come by the store,
Wait till next Saturday. Yeah, baton rouge, get out and
enjoy this gorgeous day.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Y'all have a great day.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
You've been listening to the WJBO Lawn and Garden Show.
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