December 6, 2025 • 40 mins
Johnny Naylor sits down with Butch this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery!
Enjoy a laid-back conversation full of knowledge about caring for Christmas trees and poinsettias, micro-irrigation tips, how to select your mulch, weed control and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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Enjoy a laid-back conversation full of knowledge about caring for Christmas trees and poinsettias, micro-irrigation tips, how to select your mulch, weed control and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. Good morning,
Baton Rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven to fifty
wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is BUTCHERWS. I'm
with Johnny Naylor. Good morning, mister Johnny.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning. How are you been better? Bean worse?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we can all say that, but at least we
have a football coach you now we do. Anyway, We're
here to talk lawn and gardening, not LSU football. This
is a pre recorded show, so you will not be
able to call in. We will have a show on
the thirteenth and the twentieth for callins, but this is
a pre recorded show. I'm very excited to have mister
(00:42):
Johnny here. What's going on at Clegg's right now?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Christmas tree?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Why did I know the answer to that? I went
by there the couple of days ago and looks like
they're moving quite well.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Actually not doing bad. I think fresh crut Christmas trees
sale have slowed down some over the years in the
whole industry. I'm sure exactly why y'all come out and
buy a Christmas tree.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Definitely, kids need one that's right, and you need the
fresh smell of a Christmas tree. You don't need that
artificial thing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Now, these are all fresh cut fur trees, so they're
all fragrant.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Which one is the most fragrant to you? I know,
you can't smell them anymore us would have been in
the business this alarm, can't smell them anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But actually the ones that have the best needled retention,
the Fraser and the Noble, are not as fragrant as
the one step down would be Douglas, Fir and Grand.
For to me they are the most fragrant. But if
you put a fir tree in your house, when you
hit the door, you know there's a tree in the house.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, very definitely. Fraser firs come from North Carolina. The
other three that you mentioned, the Noble, the Grand and
the Douglas are all from the Pacific Northwest. One of
the things that I think most people when I was
with the Christmas trees, tried my best to explain to
them when they grab the tree right about waste height
(02:06):
and yank on the branch. That's not really where you
want to test the tree. If it's drying out, is it? No,
not really, don't they dry out from the top down.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They usually dry out from the top down, So it's
better for me if they grab them at the bottom
and pull on them.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's right, that's always a fresh tree. And a lot
of times. One of the other misconceptions I think people
have is a lot of times when you grab right
there at the bottom, like you said, or even at
the middle of the tree, you may come out with
a lot of needles in your hand. But those needles
the tree had already cast it off.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, yeah, if one thing they shear. These trees so
thick now, and there's summer shed every summer, just like
you know, the pine trees drop all their needles and
these things. There's no place for the needles to go,
so they just drop down and follow the next layer
of branches, and you know they look at all these
brown needles up in there. I can't help that shed
(03:00):
these needles every year.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I know the guys out on the lot they
try to pop the bounce the trees, however you want
to say it, to knock some of that out. But
like you said, they're so thick, you just can't get
all those needles out. But do you ever recommend the
forefinger and thumb test with the needles. We put a
needle between your forefinger and the thumb and bend it.
Why are you looking at me like I'm stupid?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, I've never done that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You've never done that one? Oh man, that's the best
way to tell if they're fresh. If you can bend
it over without it breaking, that's an excellent tree. But anyway,
I guess we'll move on from that. I one thing
I noticed, and maybe I just didn't see him. Is
there an issue with Christmas cactus this year?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No, we have pretty decent apply of Christmas cactus right now.
A lot has to do with him coming into bloom.
I mean, they don't ship them to me until they're
showing color. So if they're a little lad and showing color.
Some I'm showing a lot of color right now. Some
of them will be a little bit delayed, but they'll still,
you know, start showing before Christmas time.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Is that delayed due to the warmer weather we had
or now?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I think it depends on the variety more than anything.
Some of them just come into flower faster.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Some of them are early Christmas cactus. In summer late
Christmas Cay.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I believe that's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
But speaking of Christmas, we'll try and do a whole
Christmas segment right here. What is the best way to
take care of a point set?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Leave it at the greenhouse. Most people over water them,
I mean, they're not crazy about being in a dry house.
Just make sure you put them in an area that
doesn't have a vent blowing directly on them. That drives
the amount so.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And that goes for your Christmas tree too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Absolutely yeah. I think the points sets are just people
waters are out of convenience, and a lot of times
there are watering plants that are already wet. Don't let
them dry out. I mean they'll start dropping foliage, it'll
start turning colors on you. But you need to let
them dry before you water them again.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And if you have, if you get the full wrap
or whatever the little thing they call they put on
there about ten minutes after you water, make sure there's
no water sitting in that because you can get a
root rot going very very quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But yeah, I guess y'all are pretty well stocked up
on points set as right.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
One that is looking really good right now?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, we went. I brought the girls out to the
greenhouse right before the open house, and man, they were
just they were fabulous. One of the things we talked
about last week was the point set of trees. That's
kind of a unique thing, something you especially if you're
having a gathering, you could put near the front door
as a real specimen. But the one thing, well, I
(05:44):
can't really say it because this is pre recorded, but
watch if you're putting a point set of outside or
leaving it outside in your decorations, what do you say,
forty degrees you need to move it in.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, A lot has to do with the wind. As
long as you can block the wind. I think they're
okay down to yeah, forty to forty five. But after
that they do stuff like, uh, temperature dad in the thirties.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna have you looks at me
like I'm stupid again because I'm gonna ask. I'm wonna
bring another thing out. When you're buying a point set
of always look the obviously, the leaves are the bracts
are what actually color up and what you're purchasing, and
the flower is a little thing right in the center
of that and I've always told people that you don't
(06:29):
want the little bird's mouths to be open.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, I'm gonna look at you like that, stupid. If
you look at.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
The point set of bloom, the actual bloom in the center,
there's a gap and that opens up as the flower matures,
and to me, it looks like a little bird with
its mouth opens. I always told people, maybe that's why
I got so many stupid looks when I work there,
But I.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Need to look closer.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah, but that's what I always did those As
the mouth start to open on those flowers, that means
the flowers getting older and that plant's not gonna last
as long. In fact, someone told me that a lot
of people will actually pinch the actual flowers out of
the point set as to keep them the bras colored.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah. I've known people who do that as well. But
you have to be really careful because you'll destroy those
bracts trying to pick those flowers out sometimes.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, they do have a tendency to kind of hide up.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And they look empty after you do that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
They do, You're right, Yeah, it leaves a little gap
in the center there that I'm not thrilled with either.
I do some of the pricing. I see y'all have
got the Norfolk islumpines in.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, not as many available this year as we've had
in the past, but we still do have some.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's a nice little plan if you're in an apartment
or just you know, you can kind of put it
there and put a few little maybe a little light
string of lights on it or something to have a
little Christmas in your in a smaller area. What was
a deal this year with lemon Cypress something new and
look they look cool, they really do. That is a
(08:03):
good looking a little you know, just tabletop tree. It
looks it looks looks to me like that troll hair,
you know, looking up when we're dating ourselves. John. Absolutely,
but yeah, but now there's a lot of interesting things,
a lot of new plant material with the Ammarillis bulbs
came in very nice this year. We've got a good
(08:23):
selection of those. You do have some of the gift
packs still on we do.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
We still have some boxed ones that come with a
pot in the soil, and we have some of the
just more unique ones.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Right. And one of the things people always ask about
Amarillis bulbs is sizes, the larger the bulb. I believe
the more blooms you will get.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, yeah, normally you'll get two bracts on larger bulbs.
On the smaller bulbs you may get too. Sometimes you
just get one.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So but yeah, if you head by the story, we've
got a great selection of those. Also have some paper whites,
I believe.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Still well, we may had some of the other stores
we sold out at sea already.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh wow, it hasn't been a good Christmas for you all.
So garlands still available?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, we have plenty of garden. We keep it in
a cooler so it Yeah, it's nice and fresh.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes, Actually it's funny that it's in a it's in
I guess you call them sea cans with its little
air conditioner and it's forty two degrees out there and
air conditioners running in the right. But yeah, that's important
to keep those cool so that they don't start defeating
they will. There's it. What type of garland is it
this year? Again?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I found I know some places sell the mixed garland,
but I've always it's the first seems to dry out
uch quicker.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, that's why I don't really like the mixed. The
cedar stays fresh, and uh, all the.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
First just tends to dry out, brown out. Yeah, so
all of a sudden you got this beautiful green and brown.
That's right, And I don't think those are Christmas colors.
But this is a pre recorded show, so unfortunately we
cannot take phone calls obviously. Do feel free to call
any of the four locations of Clegg's Nursery in the
Baton Ridge area if you do have any questions. We
will be live on the thirteenth and the twentieth for
(10:14):
you to call in. I had a great segment. They're
talking about Christmas, which is a very timely subject one
of the things. And I know everybody's busy in December
and there isn't a lot of time to do other things,
but December, January and even in the early February for
us is usually the ideal time to plant trees and shrubs.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I think, yeah, November December to me or two
of the best months to you know, transplant or to
move things. Those are our first cool, wet months, so
you have low transpiration in those plants, so it's really
easy to establish them. We have root activity all winter
and all spring, so planning in these two months. You
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have an opportunity to develop a roots system or establish
a root system during the winter and the springtime before
they meet their first summer, which is always the toughest time.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, think about it. I mean, it's kind of cold
this morning. I had to sneak in and left you
in the parking lot. But in the summertime especially, we've
been having some drier summers than normal, and that is
our stress time. You know, if you're from the north,
winter time is the stress time because of how cold
it gets and you actually get ground freezer and all that.
(11:30):
But down here, our stress time is summer because, as
you mentioned, the transporation out of the plant material. If
it goes a while without watering, you may end up
very quickly with the dead plant. And you know, there's
certain plants that you can tell, like an azalea, you
can tell if it gets a little droopy, you know
(11:50):
it needs to be water. But there's other a lot
of our plants, the Indian hawthorns, the camellius has sank
was Holly's, they don't if they they're dead, they.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Don't show drought easily. Anything with a hard, glossy leaf
like that, by the time it starts showing you drought,
that plant has just about had it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, it's it's very, very difficult to recover those those,
like you said, hard glossy leaf plants. Anytime you have
drought one of the things, and you, you and I
have sold it forever being when we were at Naylor's
and now it brought a lot of that. And to
add to what Clegg sells drip irrigation or micro irrigation.
(12:30):
You know, if you are out planting right now or
you know, planning on doing some landscaping in your talk
to the people at Clegg's nursery, ask them about micro
irrigation and what's nice if you're planting right now. You
really don't have to do it right now.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You don't have to, but it's a good time to
do it, even though you're probably not gonna need it
till spring, mid spring before you even have to turn
it back on. I mean at home, I have irrigation
through everything. I turned it off well probably a two
three weeks ago, and I'll probably won't turn it back
on until April or May. The first law drop here
(13:08):
that we have.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, I have, I actually have timers on my aline,
so and I took the timers off the other day
with this cool weather coming in, So you're right, I
mine won't run again until I put the timers back
on in the spring.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, they just don't need it. During the winter months,
water goes a long ways. The days are short, they're
cold and overcast. Sure, I mean, you get one good
rain and that may be good for a week and
a half.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And that's one thing I kind of threw in there.
But the micro irrigation system they're very very easy to
put in and they're efficient and very efficient. You don't
lose a lot of moisture to immediate evaporation. You can
if you're doing mostly shrubs, we have something called a shrubler.
It looks like I call it a little spiderler. Yeah,
(13:54):
of water. You just put one of those at the
base of a plan or if it's you know, if
you're putting in like a fifteen thirty gallon tree, you
may want to put a couple on that one just
to kind of maintain the similar type moisture on everything.
But it's very simple to do. It's got a half
inch trunk line we call it. You lay that out
and you just poke holes where you need these sprinklers
(14:16):
to be put It's you know, so often people come
in going, oh, do you have a kit? Well, no,
we don't have a kit because what happens with exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You either with pieces you don't need and you don't
have enough pieces that you do need.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's exactly what I was thinking too. So what we do,
what we suggest is if you are to have a
landscape plan or have an idea, and it doesn't have
to beat to scale, it doesn't have to be anything.
All we want to do is know ideally, know what
plants and how many that you're going to have, and
we can set you you know, we can walk you
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through the system very easily. It's very easy to put down.
It's also, I feel, very cost effective.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh it is. It's you don't have dig up anything.
I mean, it's not like putting in high pressure irrigation
where you have to dig all this stuff up and
lay PBC lines and risers and all that stuff. This
is so easy. You just lay it out in the beds,
you just sort of map it out. We run a
trunk line through there and you can go in both directions.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know what the hardest part about this is I'm
just getting that stupid look again. Get even the trunk
line laid out so it's not all coiling back up
on you.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, yeah, we do have what is a staple basically,
and that's what it's for. So when you lay it out,
unless you want to roll it out and lay it
out in the sun for a while, it gets lots
of That's what I do. If you don't want to
wait for that to occur, then you just roll it
out and use these little staples to hold everything in place.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But yeah, it's the way I usually do it is
I lay the trunk line out, put a brick or
something on each end, then I go back inside get
my favorite adult beverage. I put all the sprinkler heads together,
then I walk out poke ahole, stick it in and
go back and have another favorite adult beverage beer. You
didn't have to tell them what it was. But no
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micro irrigation. As I mentioned, the only thing that I
strongly recommend is this time of year, since, like Miss
Johnny said, you really don't need to run it anyway
if you have timers on the system, which just makes
this thing so much easier than you know, having to
remember to go turn it on and then remember to
(16:32):
turn it off. Take your timers off this time of
year because if you got they do have moisture in them,
and if we get a hard enough freeze, you can
actually break air quotes your timer. One of the things
that kind of going off of this is the drip
tubing for your garden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, yeah, I'm using a commercial drip tube, or they
call it drip tape because it's what it looks like.
It's wells up into a tube. Looked like just flat
tape when you lay it out there. There's also landscape
drip lines they put out water a lot faster. The
reason I'm using the tape instead is because you can
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run like six hundred feet of this tape on one
system and get the same flow rate through the whole thing.
But you do have to run at least one hundred
and fifty feet or more. Even with ten pounds pressure regulator,
it'll pop. So the little drip line they call it
landscape drip line. If you get a twelve inch spacing
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on it, you run about twenty feet on each run. Now,
you can run multiple lines, but each one to keep
the flow rate right, you can only run it about
twenty feet long.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's what I ended up using in mind, because I
have I'm the square foot gardener, so the tape I
just I couldn't get that much out on one thing,
so I did the little I call it drip tubing.
But I don't know why it took me so long
to do that. I've got every year we kind of
plant everything where it goes. And my tomatoes. I just
ran a loop, you know, ran kind of brought the
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trunk tubing into the middle of the bed and then
ran a loop on each side of it. So I
was around that twenty feet on both of those, you know.
I put it out in all the beds. I have
one bed that up until all my citrus died, I
couldn't use. But now that the citrus are dead from
the freeze last year, we're going to do our squash
and okra in that bed, so I'll finish up tubing
(18:31):
in that one. But no, it's very simple. You know,
if you don't it doesn't look unsightly, but of course
you can always mulch over the top of it to
kind of hide it. So yeah, it's very easy and
very cost effective and just really takes especially for your
summer crops a lot of effort out of the gard
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and you don't have to worry about putting a sprinkler
out there and it's watering on the ground.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That's right. Yeah, you're not winning the foliage.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Which causes fungal problems.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Which can give you loose spots. Yeah, I mean there
are all kinds of issues that you'll get. You can't
control the rain, but you can control putting water on
the on the foliage. Every time you water.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, you're putting it out right at the root system.
So like we said earlier, you're not especially with the
drip tou being, you're not losing anything to evaporation, So.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Especially if you'll mulch. And that's face it, most of
our gardens are part of our landscape. We want them
to look good, so multi mulch. Well know, there are
a lot of good reasons to mulch, but like you say,
you lose, you don't lose moisture to evaporation. It protects
you to being. One thing I have found about running
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this trunk line through all these beds, as long as
I keep it under mulch, I have no issues. If
the squirrels find it, I have no idea why. I
guess they think there's water in it. They will chew
holes in it and I have to repair that every year.
But as long as I keep it under mulch and
they can't see it, I have no issues.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You know, you up. Obviously, one of the main reasons
we use mulch is for esthetics, but also mulch is
an excellent weed prevent It actually helps with insulating the
root system of your plants. A lot of times last year,
especially when we got that really cold snap. You know,
you've got a nice little layer of whatever mault you use.
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You may get some die back above ground, but a
lot of times that mult will insulate the roots enough that,
you know, especially on a lot of our perennials or
semi herbaceous plants, they'll come back from the root system.
It also helps during the summertime with moisture retention. You
don't have a tendency to lose you know, a lot
of the moisture to evaporation or to the heat directly
(20:44):
on it. So there are a lot of benefits to mulch.
And people always ask me what is the best mulch,
And the best mulch is whatever you think looks.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Absolutely are all functional. It is just literally whatever you
want to look at.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
The only thing that I the only preface to that
I will say is if you're on any type of
a slope, you probably want to stay away from pine
bark product.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, anything that's light and can float, it'll all wind
up either out in the yard or down at the
bottom of the bitch at home. I use pine straw
because I have that issue. But the pine straw will
matt together. I mean when you first put it down,
it looks like a bad hair day. I mean it's
ticking up everywhere, but eventually it starts matting down and
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it just creates one solid mass, so it doesn't move.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Great.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A cypresses the same way. That's the bar cedar mulch
actually doesn't do bad. Those are things that will kind
of matt together. It's the lighter bark products that have
been just ground up. I mean, if you're flat, it's
not really a big issue, but if you have any
fall or any slope to it, they tend to work
their way down to one side.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You brought up something during this last break, bedding plants
and the nursery. I like I said, I walked the
tables the other day. I was in purchasing something and
it is just phenomenal the amount of color that is
in Seagan Lane. Obviously, but all the stores will have
similar types of color, and it's still a good time
(22:24):
to plant.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah. I actually just changed my color out just before
Thanksgiving only because my family was coming. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Changed ours out yet our good months.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I mean, but look, there's still a lot of color
available to it. We have a lot of I mean
pansies and snap dragons and dianthas and petunias, all kinds
of just really bright color they had.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I was again, I was there the other day and
I'm sure they've moved some of them, but they had
some of the most beautiful red geraniums. Oh absolutely, I
mean they were just phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
They like the cool weather, they don't like the hot.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No, they will not make it through our summers unless
you really really baby them. You do want to be
careful with geraniums as far as cold weather, you know,
maybe even this evening, go throw some frost cloth over
it or a sheet or something, just to protect them
a little bit. But that is an excellent little Again,
if you got a function where you want something really
(23:25):
to pop. Those red geraniums were just gorgeous. But this
time of year, you can't beat pansies. I love pansies
with snapdragons behind them. I don't know, that's just a cool,
cool combination looks good.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I have several pots that are planted with pansies and snapdragons.
They just would they perform well, and.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The snap dragons may go out of bloom for a while.
In January we get real cold.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean even snaps I had in there last year,
they were covered in snow. When the snow melted, the
pansies didn't even look back. They were looking fine. The snaps, yeah,
they were a little unhappy, but they were back in
bloom by springtime.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I do have a question, since you and you and
you know Shirley, she my wife. She loves pine straw too,
But what when you're planting a large area of annuals
and you got all these little small plants, is there
a type of mults it would be better to use.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's where I use the crushed pine straw, even in
the pots. After I plant them, meltch the top of
every pot.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You notice how I set you up for that one
I did.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, it's uh it's too hard to get you know,
bale pine straw, long fiber piet straw to work around
those plants, unless you're going to straw the beds first
and then go back and separate it in plants.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
A lot of way too much work.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It is. It's a lot of work. So it real
easy just to uh spread between all those you know,
closely planted uh bending plants.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And and it does match well. I used the regular
pine straw we do. I use the regular pine straw
around all my shrubs and in her little betting plant
areas we put the crushed pine straw. And you can't
tell the difference. No, all you said once at Matt's.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A little it does all looks nice and neat.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
The wild hair day. Mulching in the winter is as
I said earlier, it is an insulator as far as
temperature for the roots. We don't have the issues with
the moisture control as much because we tend to be
in more rainy in our winter. If you if your
mulch is needing to be refluffed, one thing I would
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suggest is if you're deciduous, trees haven't dropped all their leaves,
you might want to wait a little bit longer, but yeah,
maulching in the wintertime is very important for the insulation
helps control weeds just and as of course aesthetics when
everybody's having their Christmas parties, you want the beds to
look good.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Vegetable planting, well, there's not a whole lot left to do.
I don't know if I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
We've been so warm, well, sole temperatures are still warm.
There's some things that we normally would not plant in
December that would still come up. And then there's some
things that we would plant all winter anyway. I mean
you plant mustard and termed spinach. Spinach loves cool salt temperatures,
so you just plant that every few weeks to have
a continuous flow.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You might not have the varietal selection that you would
have earlier, because again, typically our major vegetable planting time
is late September.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
September October two big months.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But we were so high we in f had You
and I talked about that the other day. I put
my carrots out about two weeks ago and I got
very quick germination off them. And you said you had
trouble because you earlier.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I had planted them earlier. I have a sol thermometer.
I also have a life, but I do have a
salty and something that I monitor and I'm looking at
it and it says don't plant carrots and lettuce. And
I did it anyway, and sure enough I didn't get
a stand. Two weeks later, sol temperatures dropped about six
or eight degrees and pooped. They all came up.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know, that's one thing, and I'm really glad you
brought that up. If you're struggling, if you have a
gardener in your family and you're looking for a great
Christmas gift, a soil thermometer is extremely important. I mean,
it's like you just said, for fall vegetable planting, you know,
and we sell what it's the egg book, I can't
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think of the name of it. Also home gardening gardening,
and they do in there. It's like soil temperatures they'll
be in there and so thermometer and the book excellent
gift vegetable planting, the carrot seeds, this spinach or I love.
You used to say there's about three hours every fall
that the soil temperature is perfect for spinach. But there's
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also with your betting plants if you're you know, we
want the soil temperatures to cool off when we plant pansies,
because we don't want the rise of tonia to be active.
We want it to be dormant. Opposite is true. In
the spring, we want the soil temperatures to be above
the range where that's going to be active when we
plant our venka or else you're going to replant your
venka because it's going to die. So so thermometers make
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a great little gift for any gardener that wants to,
you know, something they probably don't have, and it's kind
of a unique but very important gift. You use yours
all the time. I use that all the time because
we don't have a light we.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You know, I have a little sheet that tells you
gives you planting dates for spring and fall, and for
the most part, that used to work very well. But
it's eds are changing. Our summers are getting longer. I
was told that we had twenty one more days of
summer than normal, so in September, even though my little
sheet says, yes, you can plant this on the first
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in the first week of September, the sol thermometer said, no,
you can.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So I was two weeks three weeks later, you know,
planting some things, and it showed I tried to cheat
in mark.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You can't cheat mother nature. This well, again, this is
pre recorded, so I'm not sure exactly what the temperatures
are going to be. But a lot of times you
mentioned the lettuce and all some of that type stuff.
You do want to get some and Clegg sells what
we call a frost cloth. It's a white cloth material. Actually,
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what you're doing with that is you're trying to trap
the soil heat. You're trying to keep it from losing
it to the atmosphere. On lettuce, it's not you know,
if you're gonna have a light freeze or something, go
throw it over there real quick, just to prevent it
from getting frost damage. It may not kill it, but
do you want to eat half brown lettuce leaves?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No? And it is a frost cloth is just that
it protects you from a frost. So I mean we're
going to drop down to you know, just even the
upper twenties, twenty nine thirty or you know in there,
it still helps if we're going down to eleven degrees
without a heat source under there. It will still freeze
under frost cloth.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I say, my lemon last year with crosscloth and a
trouble light.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's all you needed, anything that can trap that heat.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Do we still have any incandescent Christmas lights? Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
There may still be a few. Most everything is led now.
They don't put off any heat. It used to work
well when you had incandescence. You could just you could
literally go wrap them in your citrus, throw a blanket over,
plug it in, and you know, if we got to
leving greeze, they still didn't freeze.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
And you could send Christmas curls to them. You can't.
We've had a great discussion on several things, maulching, vegetable gardening,
micro irrigation, touched on Christmas stuff. One of the things
that we haven't talked about on the show for several
weeks is lawn weed control. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Mean it doesn't stop. We have two seasons.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
For those retail people.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, you're getting past a certain point. October November would
have been a real opportunity to have put down uh
pre emergence, to stop a lot of these cool season
weeds which I see are already coming up they were
just waiting for the soil temperatures to drop in range
thermometer and and they started popping up. I didn't need
a thermometer for that one. I could see them. But look,
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there's still a long season left. There's still a lot
of seed to come up. It does not all come
at the same time, so you still have an opportunity
to put down a good pre emergent. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
What do you suggest?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The one we usually suggest is dimension. That file peers
the chemical in air. It's uh, I never.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Can remember the actual night. What is it? Lawn weed
and grass ornamental? Uh, just come in and ask her dimension,
because that's what we.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All know it by stuff in the yellow red bag.
But you can use it in your in your lawn,
and you can use it in the.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Beds, not your vegetable gardens, not your vegetables.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's water activated, so you don't have to incorporate any
and you'll get it at least three months sometimes four
months of control out of it. So it's worth doing
a lot of the weeds that people are looking at
in January and February, you know, and they have to
go in with postmerge controls to do it. Could have
been prevented if they put pre emergency down in the.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
First place, especially poeanna poanas. I got dudes, lay the
bag out there and it will come out. You don't
have to put it on.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It works extremely well on poana, but it works on
chick weed, hn bit a number of them. Like I said,
this is cool season weeds season. We'll do it again
in like February and March, and we'll be doing that
for our warm season weeds. What would you do?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
As far as is there a pre emergent for vegetable gardens, very.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Little label for it. We do sell a trup Land product.
It works especially well on grassy weeds, but it does
some of the broad leaves as well. The ones that
I have, I have one Philanthus some people know it
is chamber bidder or gripe weed. Unfortunately it doesn't work
on that one. So that one, when I see it
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pop up, I just hand pull it. I mean, the
first three leaves that come out on is gets hand pulled.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Is it true? Or am I making this up that
if you keep an area malt, you have to have
one hundred percent sunlight for that seed to germinate. No, okay,
I don't mind it, then I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
There are some there's some weeds that need light for germination. Well,
we like let us seeds, let us see needs light
for germination.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's to be on the surface.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
They need to be up towards the top. So I mean,
if you were to go mulch over that you probably
never see any of those things. But there are a
lot of seed that do not need light for germination.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
There is one of the prem products. I think it's
extended controlled. Yes, that does work on chamber bitter. But
again that one cannot be used in the vegetable you can't.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
But look for people who have chamber bid or in
their bids. That stuff works. It used it before, and
I mean you apply it on the top of your molt.
You don't even have to get it to salt or
bad you want to right, Well, that's what they suggest,
and it works.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Because it the way it was explained to me. And
he may get up and leave after this one is
if you think about it, when you when this product
gets watered, it kind of forms what I say is
a sheet of glass. It's a cass layer gas, okay,
and then when the weed hits that, it dies.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, it's actually in quiescence. It's when the seed is
actually drawing in the moisture to start the germination product process.
It pulls in the part of this and kills it.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
But what my point was, and now he's just totally
ruined it. But that's okay. You want any of your
pre emergence that you're using in your fly bed to
be basically the last thing you do because you don't
want to break or move that gas around. So it
was my point was if the sheet of glass is,
if you step on a sheet of glass, you're gonna
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break it, and every one of those cracks a weed
can come up in. So you want to put it
on top of your malt because you know, I hate
to say this, but you're gonna probably even have some
seeds in that mult that you want to kill.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's all always possible to have seeds in that multet.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
So yeah, But anyway, if you have weeds in your
lawn right now, is there something we can spray?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, we still have our weed cocktail, which is a
post emergin As long as you're between forty and ninety degrees,
you can use the cocktail.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And the cocktail consists of bourbon and water and ice or.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You can try that way. That's when you do would
drink after Oh no, Atrazine, wheat, free zone and spreaderstick
are the three things that go in this cocktail.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And if and if you're talking to zaying, he's gonna
insist you use the color in color.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, I mean, if you've got a large area and
it's hard to tell where you've been spraying. Uh, there's
a blue color that you could use in there. Suggest
you put on gloves because you get it on and
old shoes and old shoes.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
But yeah, but the atrozine, if I'm not mistaken, works
as both a pre and a postry and post emergon.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
It's not as broad as something like the dimension is. Uh.
It does work particularly well on a number of grassy
weeds and some of the broad leaves as well, but
we use it here primarily as a post emerge control.
It works well on Poeania. The one thing we free
zone truthfully carries the load.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
It's a combination for herbicides.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
As it is. Well, it's your post emerging right and it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Covers you know, a big group, but it will not
kill poanya And that's one thing that the atrozine steps
in and takes care of the poe ania that's already
come up.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
One of the things. And again the these are lawn
we controlled. We definitely do not want to use any
of these in flower beds. We also want to be
careful with the atrosine spraying under the canopy of trees.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Well, both of them, atresine and we pree his own
both have an over restriction. They're actually not that long lived,
but they will move into the soil. Root systems can
pick them up. So if you've got newly planted trees
or or young trees or even small tree forms, it's
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a good idea to avoid that.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
And you want to stay out from the drip line.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
You just got to stay out from the drip line.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And the drip line is obviously the outer edge of
the foliage of the plus whatever the branch extension is.
So anyway, so we do have Obviously you don't want
to use a spray on a day well, again we're
pre recorded. But if you have a chance of rain,
what is the time period from application to oh my
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goodness it's raining.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Well, if you can give it twenty four hours, that's
you know, best but eight twelve hours to me is
about a minimum on contact herbicides so that they have
a chance to absorb. Yeah, I just you know, if
the weather man's saying it's an eighty percent chance to
rain that afternoon, I'd probably avoid that day. Same thing
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with the high temperature, and when we're spraying when it's warm,
you know, if they're going to say ninety five degrees,
don't push your luck. The grasses really have a hard
time with the high temperature thing. If you start getting
below forty degrees, growth rates are so slow that the
weeds have a hard time even absorbing and translocating.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
And that's one of the things when you're putting out
a week killer coverage. The square footage is the most
important part of the instructions that you're reading. If it
says one ounce to one thousand square feet, try your
best to get real close to that one thousand square feet.
If you overapply, you can damnage your lawn. If you underapply,
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you're wasting your time.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, and look, you don't have to be right on
the money. But if it's selling you to cover a
thousand square feet, you put it on two hundred square feet.
That selective. Herbicide is now not non selective. If you
put it on two thousand square feet, you're not gonna
kill anything. So you got to get relatively close to
your rate, but you don't have to be right on
the money.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, mister Naylor, we are coming up on the end
of the show. Again. You've been listening to news radio
eleven to fifty wjbo's Line of Garden Show. This has
been a pre recorded show. We Arekleg's Nursery. We are
the independent garden center in Baton Rouge. We have four
locations in the greater Baton Rouge area, Seagan, Lanton, the
best store Denham Springs on Range, Greenwald Springs right at
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where Sherwood and Greenwell hit together, and on South Downmore
in mid city. Come by and visit with us. Beautiful
Christmas trees, great points set as in the store, lots
of good gift ideas and they always can use a
Kleg's gift card. Again, you've been listening to news radio
eleven fifty wjbo's Line and Gardener Show. Thank you, mister John.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Enjoy being here.
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. Good morning,
Baton Rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven to fifty
wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is BUTCHERWS. I'm
with Johnny Naylor. Good morning, mister Johnny.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning. How are you been better? Bean worse?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we can all say that, but at least we
have a football coach you now we do. Anyway, We're
here to talk lawn and gardening, not LSU football. This
is a pre recorded show, so you will not be
able to call in. We will have a show on
the thirteenth and the twentieth for callins, but this is
a pre recorded show. I'm very excited to have mister
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Johnny here. What's going on at Clegg's right now?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Christmas tree?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Why did I know the answer to that? I went
by there the couple of days ago and looks like
they're moving quite well.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Actually not doing bad. I think fresh crut Christmas trees
sale have slowed down some over the years in the
whole industry. I'm sure exactly why y'all come out and
buy a Christmas tree.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Definitely, kids need one that's right, and you need the
fresh smell of a Christmas tree. You don't need that
artificial thing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Now, these are all fresh cut fur trees, so they're
all fragrant.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Which one is the most fragrant to you? I know,
you can't smell them anymore us would have been in
the business this alarm, can't smell them anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But actually the ones that have the best needled retention,
the Fraser and the Noble, are not as fragrant as
the one step down would be Douglas, Fir and Grand.
For to me they are the most fragrant. But if
you put a fir tree in your house, when you
hit the door, you know there's a tree in the house.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, very definitely. Fraser firs come from North Carolina. The
other three that you mentioned, the Noble, the Grand and
the Douglas are all from the Pacific Northwest. One of
the things that I think most people when I was
with the Christmas trees, tried my best to explain to
them when they grab the tree right about waste height
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and yank on the branch. That's not really where you
want to test the tree. If it's drying out, is it? No,
not really, don't they dry out from the top down.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They usually dry out from the top down, So it's
better for me if they grab them at the bottom
and pull on them.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's right, that's always a fresh tree. And a lot
of times. One of the other misconceptions I think people
have is a lot of times when you grab right
there at the bottom, like you said, or even at
the middle of the tree, you may come out with
a lot of needles in your hand. But those needles
the tree had already cast it off.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, yeah, if one thing they shear. These trees so
thick now, and there's summer shed every summer, just like
you know, the pine trees drop all their needles and
these things. There's no place for the needles to go,
so they just drop down and follow the next layer
of branches, and you know they look at all these
brown needles up in there. I can't help that shed
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these needles every year.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I know the guys out on the lot they
try to pop the bounce the trees, however you want
to say it, to knock some of that out. But
like you said, they're so thick, you just can't get
all those needles out. But do you ever recommend the
forefinger and thumb test with the needles. We put a
needle between your forefinger and the thumb and bend it.
Why are you looking at me like I'm stupid?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, I've never done that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You've never done that one? Oh man, that's the best
way to tell if they're fresh. If you can bend
it over without it breaking, that's an excellent tree. But anyway,
I guess we'll move on from that. I one thing
I noticed, and maybe I just didn't see him. Is
there an issue with Christmas cactus this year?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No, we have pretty decent apply of Christmas cactus right now.
A lot has to do with him coming into bloom.
I mean, they don't ship them to me until they're
showing color. So if they're a little lad and showing color.
Some I'm showing a lot of color right now. Some
of them will be a little bit delayed, but they'll still,
you know, start showing before Christmas time.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Is that delayed due to the warmer weather we had
or now?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I think it depends on the variety more than anything.
Some of them just come into flower faster.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Some of them are early Christmas cactus. In summer late
Christmas Cay.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I believe that's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
But speaking of Christmas, we'll try and do a whole
Christmas segment right here. What is the best way to
take care of a point set?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Leave it at the greenhouse. Most people over water them,
I mean, they're not crazy about being in a dry house.
Just make sure you put them in an area that
doesn't have a vent blowing directly on them. That drives
the amount so.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And that goes for your Christmas tree too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Absolutely yeah. I think the points sets are just people
waters are out of convenience, and a lot of times
there are watering plants that are already wet. Don't let
them dry out. I mean they'll start dropping foliage, it'll
start turning colors on you. But you need to let
them dry before you water them again.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And if you have, if you get the full wrap
or whatever the little thing they call they put on
there about ten minutes after you water, make sure there's
no water sitting in that because you can get a
root rot going very very quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But yeah, I guess y'all are pretty well stocked up
on points set as right.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
One that is looking really good right now?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, we went. I brought the girls out to the
greenhouse right before the open house, and man, they were
just they were fabulous. One of the things we talked
about last week was the point set of trees. That's
kind of a unique thing, something you especially if you're
having a gathering, you could put near the front door
as a real specimen. But the one thing, well, I
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can't really say it because this is pre recorded, but
watch if you're putting a point set of outside or
leaving it outside in your decorations, what do you say,
forty degrees you need to move it in.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, A lot has to do with the wind. As
long as you can block the wind. I think they're
okay down to yeah, forty to forty five. But after
that they do stuff like, uh, temperature dad in the thirties.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna have you looks at me
like I'm stupid again because I'm gonna ask. I'm wonna
bring another thing out. When you're buying a point set
of always look the obviously, the leaves are the bracts
are what actually color up and what you're purchasing, and
the flower is a little thing right in the center
of that and I've always told people that you don't
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want the little bird's mouths to be open.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, I'm gonna look at you like that, stupid. If
you look at.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
The point set of bloom, the actual bloom in the center,
there's a gap and that opens up as the flower matures,
and to me, it looks like a little bird with
its mouth opens. I always told people, maybe that's why
I got so many stupid looks when I work there,
But I.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Need to look closer.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah, but that's what I always did those As
the mouth start to open on those flowers, that means
the flowers getting older and that plant's not gonna last
as long. In fact, someone told me that a lot
of people will actually pinch the actual flowers out of
the point set as to keep them the bras colored.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah. I've known people who do that as well. But
you have to be really careful because you'll destroy those
bracts trying to pick those flowers out sometimes.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, they do have a tendency to kind of hide up.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And they look empty after you do that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
They do, You're right, Yeah, it leaves a little gap
in the center there that I'm not thrilled with either.
I do some of the pricing. I see y'all have
got the Norfolk islumpines in.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, not as many available this year as we've had
in the past, but we still do have some.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's a nice little plan if you're in an apartment
or just you know, you can kind of put it
there and put a few little maybe a little light
string of lights on it or something to have a
little Christmas in your in a smaller area. What was
a deal this year with lemon Cypress something new and
look they look cool, they really do. That is a
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good looking a little you know, just tabletop tree. It
looks it looks looks to me like that troll hair,
you know, looking up when we're dating ourselves. John. Absolutely,
but yeah, but now there's a lot of interesting things,
a lot of new plant material with the Ammarillis bulbs
came in very nice this year. We've got a good
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selection of those. You do have some of the gift
packs still on we do.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
We still have some boxed ones that come with a
pot in the soil, and we have some of the
just more unique ones.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Right. And one of the things people always ask about
Amarillis bulbs is sizes, the larger the bulb. I believe
the more blooms you will get.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, yeah, normally you'll get two bracts on larger bulbs.
On the smaller bulbs you may get too. Sometimes you
just get one.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So but yeah, if you head by the story, we've
got a great selection of those. Also have some paper whites,
I believe.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Still well, we may had some of the other stores
we sold out at sea already.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh wow, it hasn't been a good Christmas for you all.
So garlands still available?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, we have plenty of garden. We keep it in
a cooler so it Yeah, it's nice and fresh.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yes, Actually it's funny that it's in a it's in
I guess you call them sea cans with its little
air conditioner and it's forty two degrees out there and
air conditioners running in the right. But yeah, that's important
to keep those cool so that they don't start defeating
they will. There's it. What type of garland is it
this year? Again?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I found I know some places sell the mixed garland,
but I've always it's the first seems to dry out
uch quicker.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, that's why I don't really like the mixed. The
cedar stays fresh, and uh, all the.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
First just tends to dry out, brown out. Yeah, so
all of a sudden you got this beautiful green and brown.
That's right, And I don't think those are Christmas colors.
But this is a pre recorded show, so unfortunately we
cannot take phone calls obviously. Do feel free to call
any of the four locations of Clegg's Nursery in the
Baton Ridge area if you do have any questions. We
will be live on the thirteenth and the twentieth for
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you to call in. I had a great segment. They're
talking about Christmas, which is a very timely subject one
of the things. And I know everybody's busy in December
and there isn't a lot of time to do other things,
but December, January and even in the early February for
us is usually the ideal time to plant trees and shrubs.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I think, yeah, November December to me or two
of the best months to you know, transplant or to
move things. Those are our first cool, wet months, so
you have low transpiration in those plants, so it's really
easy to establish them. We have root activity all winter
and all spring, so planning in these two months. You
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have an opportunity to develop a roots system or establish
a root system during the winter and the springtime before
they meet their first summer, which is always the toughest time.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, think about it. I mean, it's kind of cold
this morning. I had to sneak in and left you
in the parking lot. But in the summertime especially, we've
been having some drier summers than normal, and that is
our stress time. You know, if you're from the north,
winter time is the stress time because of how cold
it gets and you actually get ground freezer and all that.
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But down here, our stress time is summer because, as
you mentioned, the transporation out of the plant material. If
it goes a while without watering, you may end up
very quickly with the dead plant. And you know, there's
certain plants that you can tell, like an azalea, you
can tell if it gets a little droopy, you know
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it needs to be water. But there's other a lot
of our plants, the Indian hawthorns, the camellius has sank
was Holly's, they don't if they they're dead, they.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Don't show drought easily. Anything with a hard, glossy leaf
like that, by the time it starts showing you drought,
that plant has just about had it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, it's it's very, very difficult to recover those those,
like you said, hard glossy leaf plants. Anytime you have
drought one of the things, and you, you and I
have sold it forever being when we were at Naylor's
and now it brought a lot of that. And to
add to what Clegg sells drip irrigation or micro irrigation.
(12:30):
You know, if you are out planting right now or
you know, planning on doing some landscaping in your talk
to the people at Clegg's nursery, ask them about micro
irrigation and what's nice if you're planting right now. You
really don't have to do it right now.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You don't have to, but it's a good time to
do it, even though you're probably not gonna need it
till spring, mid spring before you even have to turn
it back on. I mean at home, I have irrigation
through everything. I turned it off well probably a two
three weeks ago, and I'll probably won't turn it back
on until April or May. The first law drop here
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that we have.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, I have, I actually have timers on my aline,
so and I took the timers off the other day
with this cool weather coming in, So you're right, I
mine won't run again until I put the timers back
on in the spring.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, they just don't need it. During the winter months,
water goes a long ways. The days are short, they're
cold and overcast. Sure, I mean, you get one good
rain and that may be good for a week and
a half.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And that's one thing I kind of threw in there.
But the micro irrigation system they're very very easy to
put in and they're efficient and very efficient. You don't
lose a lot of moisture to immediate evaporation. You can
if you're doing mostly shrubs, we have something called a shrubler.
It looks like I call it a little spiderler. Yeah,
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of water. You just put one of those at the
base of a plan or if it's you know, if
you're putting in like a fifteen thirty gallon tree, you
may want to put a couple on that one just
to kind of maintain the similar type moisture on everything.
But it's very simple to do. It's got a half
inch trunk line we call it. You lay that out
and you just poke holes where you need these sprinklers
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to be put It's you know, so often people come
in going, oh, do you have a kit? Well, no,
we don't have a kit because what happens with exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You either with pieces you don't need and you don't
have enough pieces that you do need.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's exactly what I was thinking too. So what we do,
what we suggest is if you are to have a
landscape plan or have an idea, and it doesn't have
to beat to scale, it doesn't have to be anything.
All we want to do is know ideally, know what
plants and how many that you're going to have, and
we can set you you know, we can walk you
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through the system very easily. It's very easy to put down.
It's also, I feel, very cost effective.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh it is. It's you don't have dig up anything.
I mean, it's not like putting in high pressure irrigation
where you have to dig all this stuff up and
lay PBC lines and risers and all that stuff. This
is so easy. You just lay it out in the beds,
you just sort of map it out. We run a
trunk line through there and you can go in both directions.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know what the hardest part about this is I'm
just getting that stupid look again. Get even the trunk
line laid out so it's not all coiling back up
on you.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, yeah, we do have what is a staple basically,
and that's what it's for. So when you lay it out,
unless you want to roll it out and lay it
out in the sun for a while, it gets lots
of That's what I do. If you don't want to
wait for that to occur, then you just roll it
out and use these little staples to hold everything in place.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But yeah, it's the way I usually do it is
I lay the trunk line out, put a brick or
something on each end, then I go back inside get
my favorite adult beverage. I put all the sprinkler heads together,
then I walk out poke ahole, stick it in and
go back and have another favorite adult beverage beer. You
didn't have to tell them what it was. But no
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micro irrigation. As I mentioned, the only thing that I
strongly recommend is this time of year, since, like Miss
Johnny said, you really don't need to run it anyway
if you have timers on the system, which just makes
this thing so much easier than you know, having to
remember to go turn it on and then remember to
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turn it off. Take your timers off this time of
year because if you got they do have moisture in them,
and if we get a hard enough freeze, you can
actually break air quotes your timer. One of the things
that kind of going off of this is the drip
tubing for your garden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, yeah, I'm using a commercial drip tube, or they
call it drip tape because it's what it looks like.
It's wells up into a tube. Looked like just flat
tape when you lay it out there. There's also landscape
drip lines they put out water a lot faster. The
reason I'm using the tape instead is because you can
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run like six hundred feet of this tape on one
system and get the same flow rate through the whole thing.
But you do have to run at least one hundred
and fifty feet or more. Even with ten pounds pressure regulator,
it'll pop. So the little drip line they call it
landscape drip line. If you get a twelve inch spacing
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on it, you run about twenty feet on each run. Now,
you can run multiple lines, but each one to keep
the flow rate right, you can only run it about
twenty feet long.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's what I ended up using in mind, because I
have I'm the square foot gardener, so the tape I
just I couldn't get that much out on one thing,
so I did the little I call it drip tubing.
But I don't know why it took me so long
to do that. I've got every year we kind of
plant everything where it goes. And my tomatoes. I just
ran a loop, you know, ran kind of brought the
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trunk tubing into the middle of the bed and then
ran a loop on each side of it. So I
was around that twenty feet on both of those, you know.
I put it out in all the beds. I have
one bed that up until all my citrus died, I
couldn't use. But now that the citrus are dead from
the freeze last year, we're going to do our squash
and okra in that bed, so I'll finish up tubing
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in that one. But no, it's very simple. You know,
if you don't it doesn't look unsightly, but of course
you can always mulch over the top of it to
kind of hide it. So yeah, it's very easy and
very cost effective and just really takes especially for your
summer crops a lot of effort out of the gard
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and you don't have to worry about putting a sprinkler
out there and it's watering on the ground.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That's right. Yeah, you're not winning the foliage.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Which causes fungal problems.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Which can give you loose spots. Yeah, I mean there
are all kinds of issues that you'll get. You can't
control the rain, but you can control putting water on
the on the foliage. Every time you water.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, you're putting it out right at the root system.
So like we said earlier, you're not especially with the
drip tou being, you're not losing anything to evaporation, So.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Especially if you'll mulch. And that's face it, most of
our gardens are part of our landscape. We want them
to look good, so multi mulch. Well know, there are
a lot of good reasons to mulch, but like you say,
you lose, you don't lose moisture to evaporation. It protects
you to being. One thing I have found about running
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this trunk line through all these beds, as long as
I keep it under mulch, I have no issues. If
the squirrels find it, I have no idea why. I
guess they think there's water in it. They will chew
holes in it and I have to repair that every year.
But as long as I keep it under mulch and
they can't see it, I have no issues.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You know, you up. Obviously, one of the main reasons
we use mulch is for esthetics, but also mulch is
an excellent weed prevent It actually helps with insulating the
root system of your plants. A lot of times last year,
especially when we got that really cold snap. You know,
you've got a nice little layer of whatever mault you use.
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You may get some die back above ground, but a
lot of times that mult will insulate the roots enough that,
you know, especially on a lot of our perennials or
semi herbaceous plants, they'll come back from the root system.
It also helps during the summertime with moisture retention. You
don't have a tendency to lose you know, a lot
of the moisture to evaporation or to the heat directly
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on it. So there are a lot of benefits to mulch.
And people always ask me what is the best mulch,
And the best mulch is whatever you think looks.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Absolutely are all functional. It is just literally whatever you
want to look at.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
The only thing that I the only preface to that
I will say is if you're on any type of
a slope, you probably want to stay away from pine
bark product.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, anything that's light and can float, it'll all wind
up either out in the yard or down at the
bottom of the bitch at home. I use pine straw
because I have that issue. But the pine straw will
matt together. I mean when you first put it down,
it looks like a bad hair day. I mean it's
ticking up everywhere, but eventually it starts matting down and
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it just creates one solid mass, so it doesn't move.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Great.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A cypresses the same way. That's the bar cedar mulch
actually doesn't do bad. Those are things that will kind
of matt together. It's the lighter bark products that have
been just ground up. I mean, if you're flat, it's
not really a big issue, but if you have any
fall or any slope to it, they tend to work
their way down to one side.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You brought up something during this last break, bedding plants
and the nursery. I like I said, I walked the
tables the other day. I was in purchasing something and
it is just phenomenal the amount of color that is
in Seagan Lane. Obviously, but all the stores will have
similar types of color, and it's still a good time
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to plant.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah. I actually just changed my color out just before
Thanksgiving only because my family was coming. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Changed ours out yet our good months.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I mean, but look, there's still a lot of color
available to it. We have a lot of I mean
pansies and snap dragons and dianthas and petunias, all kinds
of just really bright color they had.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I was again, I was there the other day and
I'm sure they've moved some of them, but they had
some of the most beautiful red geraniums. Oh absolutely, I
mean they were just phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
They like the cool weather, they don't like the hot.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No, they will not make it through our summers unless
you really really baby them. You do want to be
careful with geraniums as far as cold weather, you know,
maybe even this evening, go throw some frost cloth over
it or a sheet or something, just to protect them
a little bit. But that is an excellent little Again,
if you got a function where you want something really
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to pop. Those red geraniums were just gorgeous. But this
time of year, you can't beat pansies. I love pansies
with snapdragons behind them. I don't know, that's just a cool,
cool combination looks good.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I have several pots that are planted with pansies and snapdragons.
They just would they perform well, and.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The snap dragons may go out of bloom for a while.
In January we get real cold.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean even snaps I had in there last year,
they were covered in snow. When the snow melted, the
pansies didn't even look back. They were looking fine. The snaps, yeah,
they were a little unhappy, but they were back in
bloom by springtime.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I do have a question, since you and you and
you know Shirley, she my wife. She loves pine straw too,
But what when you're planting a large area of annuals
and you got all these little small plants, is there
a type of mults it would be better to use.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's where I use the crushed pine straw, even in
the pots. After I plant them, meltch the top of
every pot.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You notice how I set you up for that one
I did.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, it's uh it's too hard to get you know,
bale pine straw, long fiber piet straw to work around
those plants, unless you're going to straw the beds first
and then go back and separate it in plants.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
A lot of way too much work.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It is. It's a lot of work. So it real
easy just to uh spread between all those you know,
closely planted uh bending plants.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And and it does match well. I used the regular
pine straw we do. I use the regular pine straw
around all my shrubs and in her little betting plant
areas we put the crushed pine straw. And you can't
tell the difference. No, all you said once at Matt's.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A little it does all looks nice and neat.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
The wild hair day. Mulching in the winter is as
I said earlier, it is an insulator as far as
temperature for the roots. We don't have the issues with
the moisture control as much because we tend to be
in more rainy in our winter. If you if your
mulch is needing to be refluffed, one thing I would
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suggest is if you're deciduous, trees haven't dropped all their leaves,
you might want to wait a little bit longer, but yeah,
maulching in the wintertime is very important for the insulation
helps control weeds just and as of course aesthetics when
everybody's having their Christmas parties, you want the beds to
look good.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Vegetable planting, well, there's not a whole lot left to do.
I don't know if I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
We've been so warm, well, sole temperatures are still warm.
There's some things that we normally would not plant in
December that would still come up. And then there's some
things that we would plant all winter anyway. I mean
you plant mustard and termed spinach. Spinach loves cool salt temperatures,
so you just plant that every few weeks to have
a continuous flow.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You might not have the varietal selection that you would
have earlier, because again, typically our major vegetable planting time
is late September.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
September October two big months.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But we were so high we in f had You
and I talked about that the other day. I put
my carrots out about two weeks ago and I got
very quick germination off them. And you said you had
trouble because you earlier.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I had planted them earlier. I have a sol thermometer.
I also have a life, but I do have a
salty and something that I monitor and I'm looking at
it and it says don't plant carrots and lettuce. And
I did it anyway, and sure enough I didn't get
a stand. Two weeks later, sol temperatures dropped about six
or eight degrees and pooped. They all came up.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know, that's one thing, and I'm really glad you
brought that up. If you're struggling, if you have a
gardener in your family and you're looking for a great
Christmas gift, a soil thermometer is extremely important. I mean,
it's like you just said, for fall vegetable planting, you know,
and we sell what it's the egg book, I can't
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think of the name of it. Also home gardening gardening,
and they do in there. It's like soil temperatures they'll
be in there and so thermometer and the book excellent
gift vegetable planting, the carrot seeds, this spinach or I love.
You used to say there's about three hours every fall
that the soil temperature is perfect for spinach. But there's
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also with your betting plants if you're you know, we
want the soil temperatures to cool off when we plant pansies,
because we don't want the rise of tonia to be active.
We want it to be dormant. Opposite is true. In
the spring, we want the soil temperatures to be above
the range where that's going to be active when we
plant our venka or else you're going to replant your
venka because it's going to die. So so thermometers make
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a great little gift for any gardener that wants to,
you know, something they probably don't have, and it's kind
of a unique but very important gift. You use yours
all the time. I use that all the time because
we don't have a light we.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You know, I have a little sheet that tells you
gives you planting dates for spring and fall, and for
the most part, that used to work very well. But
it's eds are changing. Our summers are getting longer. I
was told that we had twenty one more days of
summer than normal, so in September, even though my little
sheet says, yes, you can plant this on the first
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in the first week of September, the sol thermometer said, no,
you can.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So I was two weeks three weeks later, you know,
planting some things, and it showed I tried to cheat
in mark.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You can't cheat mother nature. This well, again, this is
pre recorded, so I'm not sure exactly what the temperatures
are going to be. But a lot of times you
mentioned the lettuce and all some of that type stuff.
You do want to get some and Clegg sells what
we call a frost cloth. It's a white cloth material. Actually,
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what you're doing with that is you're trying to trap
the soil heat. You're trying to keep it from losing
it to the atmosphere. On lettuce, it's not you know,
if you're gonna have a light freeze or something, go
throw it over there real quick, just to prevent it
from getting frost damage. It may not kill it, but
do you want to eat half brown lettuce leaves?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No? And it is a frost cloth is just that
it protects you from a frost. So I mean we're
going to drop down to you know, just even the
upper twenties, twenty nine thirty or you know in there,
it still helps if we're going down to eleven degrees
without a heat source under there. It will still freeze
under frost cloth.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I say, my lemon last year with crosscloth and a
trouble light.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's all you needed, anything that can trap that heat.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Do we still have any incandescent Christmas lights? Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
There may still be a few. Most everything is led now.
They don't put off any heat. It used to work
well when you had incandescence. You could just you could
literally go wrap them in your citrus, throw a blanket over,
plug it in, and you know, if we got to
leving greeze, they still didn't freeze.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
And you could send Christmas curls to them. You can't.
We've had a great discussion on several things, maulching, vegetable gardening,
micro irrigation, touched on Christmas stuff. One of the things
that we haven't talked about on the show for several
weeks is lawn weed control. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Mean it doesn't stop. We have two seasons.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
For those retail people.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, you're getting past a certain point. October November would
have been a real opportunity to have put down uh
pre emergence, to stop a lot of these cool season
weeds which I see are already coming up they were
just waiting for the soil temperatures to drop in range
thermometer and and they started popping up. I didn't need
a thermometer for that one. I could see them. But look,
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there's still a long season left. There's still a lot
of seed to come up. It does not all come
at the same time, so you still have an opportunity
to put down a good pre emergent. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
What do you suggest?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The one we usually suggest is dimension. That file peers
the chemical in air. It's uh, I never.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Can remember the actual night. What is it? Lawn weed
and grass ornamental? Uh, just come in and ask her dimension,
because that's what we.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All know it by stuff in the yellow red bag.
But you can use it in your in your lawn,
and you can use it in the.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Beds, not your vegetable gardens, not your vegetables.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's water activated, so you don't have to incorporate any
and you'll get it at least three months sometimes four
months of control out of it. So it's worth doing
a lot of the weeds that people are looking at
in January and February, you know, and they have to
go in with postmerge controls to do it. Could have
been prevented if they put pre emergency down in the.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
First place, especially poeanna poanas. I got dudes, lay the
bag out there and it will come out. You don't
have to put it on.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It works extremely well on poana, but it works on
chick weed, hn bit a number of them. Like I said,
this is cool season weeds season. We'll do it again
in like February and March, and we'll be doing that
for our warm season weeds. What would you do?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
As far as is there a pre emergent for vegetable gardens, very.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Little label for it. We do sell a trup Land product.
It works especially well on grassy weeds, but it does
some of the broad leaves as well. The ones that
I have, I have one Philanthus some people know it
is chamber bidder or gripe weed. Unfortunately it doesn't work
on that one. So that one, when I see it
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pop up, I just hand pull it. I mean, the
first three leaves that come out on is gets hand pulled.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Is it true? Or am I making this up that
if you keep an area malt, you have to have
one hundred percent sunlight for that seed to germinate. No, okay,
I don't mind it, then I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
There are some there's some weeds that need light for germination. Well,
we like let us seeds, let us see needs light
for germination.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's to be on the surface.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
They need to be up towards the top. So I mean,
if you were to go mulch over that you probably
never see any of those things. But there are a
lot of seed that do not need light for germination.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
There is one of the prem products. I think it's
extended controlled. Yes, that does work on chamber bitter. But
again that one cannot be used in the vegetable you can't.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
But look for people who have chamber bid or in
their bids. That stuff works. It used it before, and
I mean you apply it on the top of your molt.
You don't even have to get it to salt or
bad you want to right, Well, that's what they suggest,
and it works.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Because it the way it was explained to me. And
he may get up and leave after this one is
if you think about it, when you when this product
gets watered, it kind of forms what I say is
a sheet of glass. It's a cass layer gas, okay,
and then when the weed hits that, it dies.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, it's actually in quiescence. It's when the seed is
actually drawing in the moisture to start the germination product process.
It pulls in the part of this and kills it.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
But what my point was, and now he's just totally
ruined it. But that's okay. You want any of your
pre emergence that you're using in your fly bed to
be basically the last thing you do because you don't
want to break or move that gas around. So it
was my point was if the sheet of glass is,
if you step on a sheet of glass, you're gonna
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break it, and every one of those cracks a weed
can come up in. So you want to put it
on top of your malt because you know, I hate
to say this, but you're gonna probably even have some
seeds in that mult that you want to kill.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's all always possible to have seeds in that multet.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
So yeah, But anyway, if you have weeds in your
lawn right now, is there something we can spray?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, we still have our weed cocktail, which is a
post emergin As long as you're between forty and ninety degrees,
you can use the cocktail.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And the cocktail consists of bourbon and water and ice or.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You can try that way. That's when you do would
drink after Oh no, Atrazine, wheat, free zone and spreaderstick
are the three things that go in this cocktail.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And if and if you're talking to zaying, he's gonna
insist you use the color in color.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, I mean, if you've got a large area and
it's hard to tell where you've been spraying. Uh, there's
a blue color that you could use in there. Suggest
you put on gloves because you get it on and
old shoes and old shoes.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
But yeah, but the atrozine, if I'm not mistaken, works
as both a pre and a postry and post emergon.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
It's not as broad as something like the dimension is. Uh.
It does work particularly well on a number of grassy
weeds and some of the broad leaves as well, but
we use it here primarily as a post emerge control.
It works well on Poeania. The one thing we free
zone truthfully carries the load.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
It's a combination for herbicides.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
As it is. Well, it's your post emerging right and it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Covers you know, a big group, but it will not
kill poanya And that's one thing that the atrozine steps
in and takes care of the poe ania that's already
come up.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
One of the things. And again the these are lawn
we controlled. We definitely do not want to use any
of these in flower beds. We also want to be
careful with the atrosine spraying under the canopy of trees.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Well, both of them, atresine and we pree his own
both have an over restriction. They're actually not that long lived,
but they will move into the soil. Root systems can
pick them up. So if you've got newly planted trees
or or young trees or even small tree forms, it's
(37:31):
a good idea to avoid that.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
And you want to stay out from the drip line.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
You just got to stay out from the drip line.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And the drip line is obviously the outer edge of
the foliage of the plus whatever the branch extension is.
So anyway, so we do have Obviously you don't want
to use a spray on a day well, again we're
pre recorded. But if you have a chance of rain,
what is the time period from application to oh my
(38:00):
goodness it's raining.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Well, if you can give it twenty four hours, that's
you know, best but eight twelve hours to me is
about a minimum on contact herbicides so that they have
a chance to absorb. Yeah, I just you know, if
the weather man's saying it's an eighty percent chance to
rain that afternoon, I'd probably avoid that day. Same thing
(38:22):
with the high temperature, and when we're spraying when it's warm,
you know, if they're going to say ninety five degrees,
don't push your luck. The grasses really have a hard
time with the high temperature thing. If you start getting
below forty degrees, growth rates are so slow that the
weeds have a hard time even absorbing and translocating.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
And that's one of the things when you're putting out
a week killer coverage. The square footage is the most
important part of the instructions that you're reading. If it
says one ounce to one thousand square feet, try your
best to get real close to that one thousand square feet.
If you overapply, you can damnage your lawn. If you underapply,
(39:03):
you're wasting your time.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, and look, you don't have to be right on
the money. But if it's selling you to cover a
thousand square feet, you put it on two hundred square feet.
That selective. Herbicide is now not non selective. If you
put it on two thousand square feet, you're not gonna
kill anything. So you got to get relatively close to
your rate, but you don't have to be right on
the money.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, mister Naylor, we are coming up on the end
of the show. Again. You've been listening to news radio
eleven to fifty wjbo's Line of Garden Show. This has
been a pre recorded show. We Arekleg's Nursery. We are
the independent garden center in Baton Rouge. We have four
locations in the greater Baton Rouge area, Seagan, Lanton, the
best store Denham Springs on Range, Greenwald Springs right at
(39:45):
where Sherwood and Greenwell hit together, and on South Downmore
in mid city. Come by and visit with us. Beautiful
Christmas trees, great points set as in the store, lots
of good gift ideas and they always can use a
Kleg's gift card. Again, you've been listening to news radio
eleven fifty wjbo's Line and Gardener Show. Thank you, mister John.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Enjoy being here.
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