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October 28, 2023 • 44 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, Scott Ricca from Clegg's Nursery and Bill Roundtree of Roundtree Designs talk bedding plants and take your questions!

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Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe WGBO Lawn and Garden Show, brought
to you by Cleg's Nursery. Ifyou have a question about seasonal planting,
lon and garden concerns, all arequestions about landscaping, call four nine nine
WGBO. That's four nine nine six. Good morning, Baton Rouge. It's

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a beautiful, semi boggy day inthe Capital City. I am here this
morning in the WBO Lawn and GardenShow here along with Bill Rowntree. Good
morning Bill, good bye Scott.It's gonna be I think this is gonna
be a great show today. There'sa lot to talk about. Yeah,
things that have happened, things thatare going to happen. So I think
it's gonna be a lot of informationand we want your call and to call

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in. Don't just let us talkthe entire time, please please please,
Yeah, I hate that when ithappens, it's okay, but I'll rather
talk to people. Yes, well, and that way we're giving them information
at least somebody that really because what'sthat if one person is asking about it,
ten more people want to know orwhatever it is, So just have
them called. Yeah, but they'recurious about that. So it's good information
and we're really on the cusp ofchange here because this is the time when

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we're going to start doing bedding plants. So it's finally, well, is
it cooling, It's going to becool? Yeah. Yeah, we had
that one cool rain that helped withits old temperatures, but pop back up
again. But we're still not havingrain, right, and that's going to
be the trick with betting plants thisyear until we start getting showers. I
tell you, this has just beenhorrible. Uh uh, I don't when

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I want. When I went tomake my cup of coffee before coming into
the studio, I'm looking at thatbig window on the back, there's a
beautiful pine, just as brown asbrown can be. And I've seen lots
of southern magnolia horrible that are instress areas like along the boulevard here on
Corporate, but then other magnolias therewere kind of planted in areas where they

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weren't really doing that wonderful and they'rebrown instead. Yeah, it's just an
old Zaiya rose that you know,might be twenty thirty years old that probably
nobody's ever done anything too, andthey're just brown as brown can be.
It's going to be it's going tobe a big ripout season, Yeah,
it is. And we've we've basicallyhave not been putting in plants to read

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for replacements with our clients because ofhaving to water those things in. Now
now that it's getting to be cool, or I'm more comfortable with doing that,
but it's still we don't have arain. Yeah, irrigation is not
supposed to be the only source ofmoisture for these plants. Well, it
can't be here with our water quality, right, And so you put a
bran new plant in, Oh,well I can water it with my irrigation.

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Now your plant's still understress. Whydon't you sweet till conditions change to
more favorable favorable, boy, can'ttalk this morning, more favorable environmental conditions,
cooler temperatures, some ground moisture thatcomes from the sky, and and
then consider that right right, becauseit's even now still gonna be tough.
Now, you just have to ifyou're going to put in some new shrubs

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right now, you have to becommitted to watering. If you don't have
an irrigation system, then you're gonnahave to be able to go out there
and hand water, and I wouldadvise you not to try to water everything
and you go and really need tokind of soak the plants that you're trying
to water and water them in thecontainer before you put them in. It's
so much easier to make sure thatthat root ball is fully moist while it's
in the pot, right, becauseit takes a lot of water. People

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I talk to them all the timeand say, how do you water well?
I take the garden hose out andI spray them. No, if
you're watering holding the garden hose inyour hand, I can almost guarantee you're
not doing it well enough. Areyou going to be out there for hours?
That's right? That's right. Youneed to get up a little sprinkler,
or if it's a single tree outin the yard, put that hose.
That's the smallest trickle that you canmanage to still have come out the

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end of the hose and lay itdown and walk away. You know,
the one that for those kind ofthose those kind of airs, like a
single tree. The best sprinkler thatI know is this really cheap, little
round yellow sprinkler that has a dialon it for different spray patterns. They're
probably I have an expensive one likethat. It's not play Yeah, I
love it. But those things areso good because you can choose a spray

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pattern, like if it's a rectangleor a half full circle. Sometimes even
have a spinner on the top ifyou want to throw it a little bit
more. But that's you just setthat by the tree and just let it
spray over the ground. And it'sjust amazingly useful and cheap. And you
know that they have these tree gatorthings which they can function, but you
do have to fill them fairly regularly, right, so you still have them

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to go out. I do somethinghomemade and I'm going to cut out my
cells on tree gators. There's somebodynear my house that does cat fosters,
and so they have these buckets ofkitty litter and they're they're a five gallon
bucket and sometimes there might be tenor twelve of them out in the front
yard. For the pickup. Well, I am the pickup for those.

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I pick them up. We usethem at the nursery. We uh,
you know, put fertilizer in itto carry around. I do stuff with
them just everywhere. I will takethat and I tell people, I take
the second smallest drill from my drillindecks and on the bottom of the side,
not underneath, but on the bottomof the side, I drill a
little tiny hole in it. Itwill literally I can fill that thing and

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walk it to where I want becauseI don't like to drag hoses. It
literally takes about forty five minutes todribble out. And we've done that too,
Yeah, and you know for asalmost because we didn't because we didn't
have the sprinkler, you know.So we've had some buckets and so we
take them and it just works great, right, because when you're trying to
give water fast. Oh, Ipoured five doalls water on it, and

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then I went to the next one. Well, that five gallons of water,
probably three quarters of it rolled somewhereelse where. There's no roots,
right, and so we're still here. We're not. I mean, it
looks like it's a little bit ofrain with this cool front, but it's
in the like the thirty percent range, and so we don't count on that.
And then after that we don't haverain. So I still have people
coming here. Well, it rainthe other day. Nobody's got an appreciable

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rainfall. No, no, sono, don't tell me that because I
know you know that there's there's notSo Seve, we do have a caller
and he's actually been holding for awhile. But you know what, he
called in even without us giving outthe phone number, and we need to
go phone that has four nine ninew JBO. Keith must be on top
of his game to call in withouthis giving you those Keith, good morning,

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thanks for calling the Lawn and GardenShow. What's up? Good morning,
good morning. You guys helped meout two seasons ago whenever I had
a almost takeover of the Virginia buttonwe I came in, I got the
MSM yep and and the sticker stuffgot got rid of it. Of course
you said, hey, look thisstuff's going to come back well, and

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you got to keep staying on topof it. It happened, not not
completely as bad, so I treatedit again. But the only problem is
that left some big, old giantbrown spots in my Saint Artistine, pretty
pretty significant size, big enough forme to put squares on it. Yeah,
and now my question is I've beenwatering the squares a little bit every

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day. I know you have towater every day when you first do that.
Can I do weed and feed onmy Saint Augustine in general? And
can I do some of it onthat stuff I just planted? Okay,
So now that you've put fresh grass, and how long ago did you put
that? In? A week?Yeah, you're not going to be using

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any post mergant weed killers on thatarea at all because the grass is not
established. It's it's a degree oftolerance that your grass has. And even
though you might be putting out abroadly weed control, your grass, still
the tolerance because it's not established,it's going to be extremely low. We

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usually tell people to give your newside almost a full season of growth.
Now you'd be able to start inthe spring, right, right, And
plus, there is no good fertilizerformulation for a weed and feed for southern
grasses that's available, especially at thistime of the year. That's right.
We're done with fertilizing. Yeah,yeah, your grass is going to sleep.

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You're putting all this nitrogen. It'snot going to utilize it. You're
wasting your money. And if itdoes utilize it, it's not a good
thing. That's right. You're startingto grow and you don't want it to
grow. You want to let itstart to get more dormant, right,
because all that new growth is goingto be more liable to be damaged if
we have a bad winter. Sothe good news here is don't do anything
except you know, maybe keep upthe water. Yeah, that's all we're

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saying. Yeah, you can waittill spring. Perfect. We like to
say you don't do anything. Yeah, you don't have to do anything.
Keith, take a lawn chair outand take your favorite beverage and just sit
out and just watch it. Well, I can tell you I can do
nothing as well as anybody on that. You're one of the plan here.

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I like the way he phrases that. I'm gonna try to remember that and
use that. Ye have a greatone. I can do nothing as well
as anybody else, anybody else.I know, he's a pro. I
like that. That is well phrased. Thank you for that, Keith.

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What's a good way to start theshow? It is? It is,
but we need more callers, that'sright. At four two six, you
know, you and I were talkingabout some things that you actually I've gotten
so lazy. You know, mylist of things to discuss on the on
the show is usually non existent.But well, here's something I talk about

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with with the deer resistance. Yes, that one's near and dear to my
heart because I live my house isliterally about twenty five feet from the woods,
and the deer are regular. You'revisitors into my yard. You're pretty
close to Amy River. They travelthat like a it's like a green hi.
I tell people that that green shripfrom the river is an interstate and

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my house is the last exit.There you go, there you go.
Because we have some clients out ofWhite Oak Landing, so we've tried a
lot of things then thinking you know, reading and thinking these are going to
work, and we've come up witha small list of bedding plants that actually
do and what we generally say whenwe have our bedding plants in the front

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yard and there and they're out there, there's a few plants that do work
really well and planting at this timeof year. Fox Glove is excellent,
Fox Club is great. But whatwould be the downfall that when when's your
color going to show for Fox?It's going to be in spring, so
you're going to be planting at green. But the camelot is one that we've
used for years and years, butwe've been trying readily available. Yeah,

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that's what was relatively available. We'vebeen trying a couple others, like the
last couple of years, we triedone that called Pink Panther and what it
was I was attracted to. Ofcourse it's pink, and there's some great
camelots of pink, but it staysshorter and so Camelot came on, get
the three foot right for a bloomright, but uh, Pink Panther stays
more in the two foot range orso, and it doesn't seem the folio

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doesn't seem to want to get aslarge, so it's a little bit more
compact. It blooms relatively a littleearlier than Camelot also, so it you
know, it's a it's a goodWe've found that that's a pretty good one.
So what often happens with Fox Clubbillets of story people come in,
oh what's that? What's that atthe McDonald's, and it's it's too late
to plant it, because then we'llhave some gallons for sale. Are gallons

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like six seven dollars and or maybeyou know, eight inches across and the
spikes, you know, maybe sixteeninches tall. But if you take a
four inch pot and plant it now, now, my gosh, it reads
out better perform and I'm gonna vergeaway from this deer thing. But planting,
putting plants in when they're green andand for there's a lot of plants

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that will bloom and spring, bloomingand spring when they're at flowering is not
the time to put these things in. Now's the time to put these things
in. There's things like like columbine, for instance, we use a lot
of columbine, the fox glove,Delfinium, delphiniums, shasta daisies. You
know, there's just a lot ofthings that you buy now and they don't

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look like much, but you're goingto be able to get these flowers now.
Okay, let's say you want flowersright now, why not plant the
columbine in the back and then plantsand pansies are dianthus in the front.
You know you still can start toget color in there. Uh, and
not pansies and dianthus of being colorednow are almost and they're fine a plant

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right now, there's no problem withthat. Dianthus and pansies are very very
hearty so they're gonna be fine.But let's get back to the deer resistance.
Okay, yeah, none of thosethings I was talking about, it's
gonna fit. But so there's foxglove and there's another one gonna try.
It's called Arctic fox. What colordo you think that is? I would
think white, and it's not.It's a pink. It's a pink.

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Yeah, I know, I know. That's why I don't name them,
you know, but I don't knowwho named that one. But anyway,
but camelots are great pink panthers shorter, Arctic foxes shorter, and some of
these things that you're trying, thosearen't always No, they're not. And
then Hucra ukra or coral bells isa great plant for the winter. It's

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totally cold hardy. It comes init's foliage colors. There's a cold burgundy,
green, purples, green yellows withred stripes, there's all kinds of
folige colors. Plant them in justa little bit of shade. They can
be in very bright locations and they'redeer resistance and that resistant, and they're
very very cold resistant. Only problemwith that is on the nursery level,

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those are used more available at theend of the season, at the end
of winter, going in the springwhen you get ron on that I thought
you had some coming. Okay,and he might. And the show's been
go along pretty quick already. Wehave open phone lines here at four nine
nine five six four nine w JBO. Please don't hesitate to pick up the

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phone and give us a call ifyou, let's say, you have to
stop and go get a cup ofcoffee. You miss some of what we're
saying. Hey, you can goto the iHeartRadio station WJBO Lawn and Garden
Show. You can listen to itfor free whenever you like. I actually
listen to them often. And wewere in the middle of discussion plants,
dear resistance, planting at the righttime of the year for the best performance.

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Where do we leave off? Okay, so we're talking about betting plants
here. We mentioned fox Love,we mentioned Hucrow coral bells. Dusty Miller,
Dusty Mill is a great one.There's some there's some improvements over some
Dusty Miller they get. There's someout with wider leaves, like new Li
serious, you like that one asmuch I like the old. I'm sorry,
maybe it's just that's fine. Wejust have good results with that one.

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And then lamium is a lamium.It produces a pink or a little
purple flowers, got a beautiful designon the folio. It's usually had kind
of a silver silver, little greenedge and white centers. You know,
it's a nice foliage plant. It'sa it's kind of a vine thing but
does not get out of control,just makes a nice mat and then you

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get the flowers. What light conditionsdo you normally plant that in lamium?
We lamium can grow in shade,but we generally give it and we use
it in shade, but we alsouse it in full sun for winter crop
full sun. Now, now whenthe summer time comes on, it's gone,
it's gone. Okay, don't getfool with some of these things,
like they're it's kind of lasting intoMay and you think I'm gonna go into

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June. You need to get inthe summer. You need to get your
betting plants in and may. Pullthis stuff out, be strong, pull
it out and get your guy twoflowers on it. Though, Well,
look how many bag plants are gonnabe pulling out now because of the warm
Okay, so Lamium snap dragons areanother good one, and Sonnet is a

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tall one. I love Sonic.But I just planted some of the snapshot
in front of my house so twoweeks ago, and I actually they were
a little floppy. I took myI didn't have my printer, so I
took my knife and neatly cut mostall of the bloom spikes off because they
were weighing it over. And nowthey have already firmed up. New folias.
Blossom spikes come in and the deerhaven't touched them yet. But and

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I don't expect them to. They'venever messed with them, my snapdragons.
But you and I were talking earlier. Sometimes on the side of my house
closest to the woods, there's thingsthat the deer don't eat. But every
spring they come by and like,I don't remember, let me try this,
and I can see where they browsea little bit. But with betting
plants, when the deer bites,usually it lifts its head at the same

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time when it's betting plants. Soquite often when they bite something low,
if it's new in the ground,it just they lift it out of the
ground. You walk out, there'regoing to be five six seven root balls
out on the ground where they haven'teven barely eaten any of the plant.
They're just like, let me trythis one. No, let me try
this one. No, let metry this one. And if you have
to watch because you if you canget them back in the ground for they

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dry out, I mean, ifyou've got your plants by then maybe there
it goes. Now. I triedthose last night. I didn't like those.
No, And that's what that's theonly problem we find with snapdragons.
For whatever reason, maybe there's notstrong scent to it, they don't sense
it, but they'll try a few. We get them in the ground,
then they kind of quit. Dowith that, you know. Now we
do the same exact thing with snapdragons. If they'll have flowers on them,

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especially if they're in four inch theymight kind of flop over with rain
or irrigation war we trim them offwell. And if you trim them off,
they branch, and for every oneyou cut, you get two,
and for then you'll have twice asmany flowers. And I deadhead through the
growing season at my house, andso every time I deadhead, which is
pinching off the old flower blossom.I pinch it right above a set of

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leaves and it makes two branches,and for every branch I get a full
another set. The flowers snap dragonsare going to be blooming now, yes,
and they bloom and you know atthis time of year we cut them
off and get them to be fullerand fuller, and the show and spring
is just gorgeous and even strong.Let's say you don't cut them, and
you have a sonnet which would normallygrow eighteen twenty inches tall. Then let's

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say the wind blows and it fallsover sideways. I don't even pick them
up because if it lays over sideways, it starts putting those sprouts out again.
Anyway, it just makes it superwide. Now I did this past
year. You know those plant rings, the spike rings, I actually made
a bunch. I went and gotsome galvanized wire and had the perfect sized
jar to wrap the seld and thenI've made and I put those on my

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snaps early, okay, And thatway, when the wind blows, they
stood up the whole time and itwas perfect and it doesn't matter. But
if they lay over it, theyjust don't get as much bike right,
still get lots of color, butjust not as much height. So fox
glove, huge, dusty Miller,lambiam snap dragons. These have proved for

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us to be totally deer resistant.And they're all annuals. We're not talking
about any any permanent planning. That'sa whole nother case. But you know,
but these things are great to planif you have problems with deer,
plant these things. And the otherthing with deer is you want to make
sure your yard is not a greatplace for them to come. You want

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to kind of get your plant.Don't make it a grocery store full of
deer food. Yes, yeah,you want to send let me put some
roses and some hawthorns and some hibiscusand yeah, like you, oh man,
this is the one stop shopping.I'm gonna get everything here. You
want to send them on down thestreet, right, and so, but
these really these work. These aregood cold hardy plants there. They're great
for our area for the winter.And now you said you've had not I

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had planted more than once petunias andhad decent luck in my yard with the
deer leaving them all. Oh wedidn't. But they were not in the
most perfect spot for the deer.They were as close to the house.
I mean, I've got pictures offawns laying in this bed where I've had
petunias, but I was very luckyI didn't have them. You know,

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sometimes we mistake we think it's deerand it's rabbits. Oh yeah, you
know, but I'm pretty sure thatnow a rabbit. And this is a
little something. Most of the time. If a rabbit bites the stem,
the stem is kind of at aforty five degree angle. That's good to
know. Yeah. And a deerthe way he bites it's rough, right,
But a rabbit it's a nice cleancut usually well. And also rabbits

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are more meticulous. They're under ashrub, they're gonna come out and they're
gonna kind of stay on that plant. They're not gonna go around, and
they're definitely gonna pull anything up.Yeah. And a deer, they they're
walking while they're eating right, right, and they'll eat a lot. So
sometimes it's rabbits, most of thetime it's deer. You'll know. If
it's way to know, really youlook for two things. But hoof prints,

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right, are rabbit droppings? Yes? Yeah, in my back actually
my yard in the backyard, thedeer droppings, I mean, my yard's
fertilized, whether I wanted it ornot. No, that's good. That's
good. Well, we're still lookingfor some calls this morning. It's an
easy number four nine nine, wjbo. I mean, that's how simple.
I mean, w jbol on theGarden Show. That's right, that's

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right. So you know some thingsthat I learned. You know, we
talked about this drought, and youall might have talked about this, you
know, in other shows. Butthere was some winners, and there were
some losers, and and basically ina lot of shrubs. But let's we're
still talking about batting plants. Solet's just discuss that the winners and and
some of this is he you haveto realize how dry it was even though

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it was hot, so it wasn'tit wasn't hot and wet. It was
hot and dry, and so thatwill tweak this list that we're going to
talk about. But our winners werethings like Vinca always Venka in this climbing
you know, you know, theythey you couldn't give them too much water,
so that, you know, thatwas good. Also, things like

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Duranta duranta was good or Cuban gold. Don't know what differences between. I
don't even think there is one,I don't know. So we use that
as a bedding plant. There's aplant that we started using a few years
ago, and Ruellia machu morado grow. It's a taller one. It gets
to be about two foot or so, but or even well two foot,

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but you can cut it back atpart of the growing season it bushes out
again. Now tall ruelle is Ilearned years and years and years ago.
They threw seeds. They were anaggressive seed or they were they were you
had to really once you planned,we had to work to get them out.
You did. Okay, here's thedifference with this one. Well,
one, it's a little bit largerflower, you know for it, and

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the foliage is a little more smoothand nicer looking. And in fact,
the heat didn't affect the foliage atall. These things. But two,
we don't find seedlings. That's unusual. And we've because the tall one just
what. This one just goes everywhere. It spreads by roots and it,
as you said, it throws theseed, throws the seeds and it catapults
the seeds out. If you eversee the seed pods, and right after

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it it opens up and snaps themout, throws them probably gets up,
you know, like three four sixfeet out. But machu Maurada, which
I think is proven winters or somethinglike that, so you know it's gonna
be a little bit more pricey,but it's a good perennial. You can
use as a perennial, you canuse as a bedding plant, and it
as a perennial, it's going tocome back here after year, right,

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and so it's it's a great plant. It's going to be in the back
of your planting as far as border, and we usually kind of layer it.
One thing we did we used machuMaurada in the back of planting.
We had Durant in front, andwe used Saint Paul pink verbina in the

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front of that. So we hadthe pink, we had the yellow,
and we had the machu Maurada.It was it was what I call a
drive by planting. You could seeit in your fifty an hour plant that's
what we say. But yeah,yeah, it'd be better at thirty five,
but still you could see it.And it was and the rabina lasted
through the summer, no problems.You know, it was there and so

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anyway, that's that's another one thatwe had. We had most. I
think we had the most problem withkaladiums because just because of moisture levels.
Moisture level and heat, the drynessand the heat, we had a lot
of problems with kaladiums. I thinkthe heat, I mean, the heat
was not good. But if wehad had more moisture that would have that

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would have taken some of the additionalstress off of some of these parts and
it probably would have been much better. But people say, man, we
need to cool down. Say,I said, I'll live with the heat,
give me some rain. That's right. Oh here's another one. It
just was untouched. Blue Days.Oh yeah, I've got that at the
house. Blew my mind. BlueDays. It bloomed and bloomed and blue.

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We used it in shade. Oh, well in shade, you know
some shade like shade. Well becauseand it's deer resistant. Yeah, they
haven't touched mine at the house,right, And I actually have mine's kind
of in a cubby of some bigthick Carissa hollies and it's got a retaining
wall so I have some pinches behindthe blue days that the deer it would

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take a lot of effort to getto it. So they haven't touched my
pinches. But I'm sure if Ihad the pinches in a different region,
they would have eaten those two.Yeah, because we have a we do
some you know, a couple ofhouses out of the whiteloo at the ending,
and so we sometimes put something becausethe client wants it we know could
be problematic, and then we puta deer resistant you know, powder around
And if we just do one ortwo things like that, it's okay,

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you can control it. We're goingdeer. We're not going to get again.
Don't have a whole shopping market fullof what do you want to eat?
Right, They're going to go pastany kind of deer resistant right.
Good morning, Mary Jane, thanksfor calling the wjbol on the Garden Show.
What's up? Thank you. Ihave a question. I ordered some
Byzantine Glady out of the bulbs.Yeah, and they're supposedly shipped when it's

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time to plant. Yeah. Ourquestioning whether I should keep him until in
the spring when we normally plant Gladiola'swell, normally glads at a in Baton
Rouge, Like, we would tellyou to start planning them in February or
January February, but I would thinkthat you could probably I don't know,
maybe I would let it get coldenough so that you put him in.

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They wouldn't be stimulated to do anythingout of season. Yeah, and visiting
glads are great ones here yea.I mean they're they're a perennial. Yeah,
they're they're there. It's not justa one time shot with them.
Yeah. I've known some clumps thatare twenty thirty years old. Yeah,
I would, you know, couldyou refrigerate them or would that I don't
think he'd need to refrigerate. Iwould just keep him dry inside. I

(26:49):
think i'd probably wait till January Februaryto put him in the ground. Yeah,
yeah, I would. I thinkI think our season is going up.
It was cool and it got warm. They could actually get tricked into
trying to do something early, soI would just hold on to them.
You know, you might have alittle problem with them this year, but
you know where it gets kind ofout of season with them. But but

(27:10):
they'll regulate themselves. They'll regulate themselvesfor the following year. So it's a
good plant. So even and theycould the refrigeration wouldn't do anything bad.
They would just keep them in statisI guess because they go through cold period
in the ground be okay, Yeah, I think I would just hold on
to them. And I just holdon to them. I try, if
anything, get them into some potsif you want to. You just don't

(27:32):
want them to wither. Do theylook good and fresh right now where they
together? Fine? Yeah, yeah, I think you'd be okay, the
cool dry spot and no light.Yeah, in the dark pantry, okay,
all right, thanks. Yes,she will have those for years.

(27:52):
I know they're great if she candivide them and move them around. And
there's uh, there's a few clumpsthat I literally, I bet you I've
been looking at for thirty years,the same clumps. Yeah. And you
know that's one of those things.That's actually a nice pass along plant too.
It is. Yeah, it makesit so many bulbs over time,
and yeah, it's beautiful. Gotanother caller. She picked up the phone,

(28:15):
calls what's the number four? I'msure glad to have it right here.
As many times, you know,last week I was on my way
here, I hadn't been here fora while. Somebody had asked me early,
so what's the number there? Icouldn't even think of the number.
I knew WJBO was the last four. I have to think about it.
Oh gosh, I'm getting I'm gettingold. Jeez enjoy good morning and thanks

(28:38):
for calling the WJBO Lawn the GardenShow. How are you this morning?
I'm doing fine, and I havean apology this morning to start off with.
Last time I call you in andI think it was last Saturday,
that so much we were trying totalk over each I do I do?
We were talking about the little girlwith the set zumas. Yes, yes,

(29:00):
But anyway, I had to calland apologize. I said, you
know, home, nobody knows whoI am. You know, to do
that, it's so rude. Butanyway, I have a comment. First
of all, y'all had recommended onone of your radio shows to plant in
Inca that it doesn't take a lotof water and you know, a lot
of attention. And I have neverbeen more pleased with a flowering plant through

(29:26):
the hot summer and the dry summeras I have been with the Dinka.
And I was just wondering also abouthow what temperature can they go down to?
Is it okay to plant that now? Will a freeze kill them?
Oh no, no, no,yeah, don't plant now. No.
They want warm, they want thosewarm temperatures like we've witnessed here in the

(29:47):
summer. Now, that's when we'regoing to get ready to start pulling them
all out and so getting into ourcool season planting, which we're right here
coming up on November, which isthe ideal time for putting those in.
So uh, and you've enjoyed them, they've done well, you know,
the beautiful there was some there's somehuge pots. I don't know, there

(30:08):
must be about six feet wide andreal tall at by Alexander's on Highland Road,
right in front of Jabby's Pizza.And those things went through the summer
gorgeous, no brown flowers, nothing, They're beautiful, you know. So
I wonder why people don't plant moreof them. I see them out you
know, in the in uh allover you know the city and places that

(30:33):
they don't get much attention. Andthey were gorgeous, you know, through
the hot summer. So I wouldhighly recommend that people think about that next
year and the color is so beautifulon those Yeah, they have different like
pink and like a dark rose andwhite like them all. You know,
they're pretty. You didn't learn lasttime. You didn't learn, but I

(30:59):
I saw it and then I juststopped. See, I'm I'm trying to
have some better manners. Joy,and me too. I know you started
talking and you said, oh god, Okay. Another question is in the
entrance of our subdivision, there isa variegated long long lease thing and the

(31:22):
least may be about a inch anda half inchin and three quarters wide at
the base, and then it goesto a point real tall, like maybe
thirteen inches fourteen inches tall, andthey, I mean, they look beautiful
and then looks beautiful through the hotroute. And I'm just wondering what it's
called. Do you know what I'mtalking about? Probably probably variegated flax.

(31:47):
Looks like a small iris blades.Uh yeah, yeah, it's probably variegated
flax. Okay, So that's fl A X f l A X correct.
Okay, Now, and they willI think they might die down,
but I don't remember ever seeing itdie down. They can get touched by

(32:08):
a bad freeze. Yeah, theywere growing, you know, in March,
a lot of them got and youcan just take a pair of shears
and come across the top and usuallythough correct'll come back. Yeah. Okay,
all right, well those are thethat's that's the question I had.
I just wanted to thank you forrecommending the NKA and I will be playing

(32:30):
some next fring. All right,Joy, hope you have a great day.
Thank you. Yep, I caughtmyself, you know, uh,
I can be taught. I'm old, but I still learned. You know.
I saw that he's doing it again, and then okay, oh but

(32:52):
you know, and and you hadalready talked about Venka how well they had
done this year in heat because ofthe drought. But they needed water.
You can't think that they didn't needwater. They had to have water,
but you couldn't. You couldn't waterover water. Drought tolerant doesn't mean that
the plants can live without water toright, right, I mean, you

(33:15):
have to take care of everything.And even even if it was a plant
that could withstand just about anything,when you're planting them, they're an infant.
They don't have the root system outthere. You have to take care
of them to bring them into amore established state in their life to where
they can take care. That's that'swhat's going on with Venca because we had
May was fine, June was prettygood to start getting hot in June.

(33:37):
But if you were planting Vinca inMay, then you had a chance for
it to be established, you know. There and so and so he was
able to do what it need todo. Yeah and uh and it was
an incredible year for Venca. Butwill next year be? It was hot?
Wet? Well hot, great,wet, not great, so it

(33:57):
can be and you don't know,we didn't know this was coming, right.
And then years ago we had diseaseproblems with with Thinker, but in
their breeding programs they have developed varietiesthat are more resistant to the disease problems
that because at one point, Imean, Venka was the thing to go
to, right, Venka, Vinca, Venca, Vican And then all of
a sudden it's like, oh,you need to quit planting Venka, and
we did, and we did.We didn't plant I didn't plant Venco for

(34:21):
probably fifteen years, right, andthen started with like first there was one
called Nirvana, which is SayMore andthen Cora Cora is a is an excellent
for disease resistance for vinca, whichyou don't want to plant now, right,
right, because it's a warm city'smay planting of a betting plant,
which we've been talking about lot aboutbetting plants. You know today what joy

(34:42):
says, she's been enjoying it allsummer. Well, that's that's right,
that's right. But it's as yousaid, brave up, rip some stuff
out. Yeah, we got thirtysix degrees forecasts in the midweek, right,
Okay, well that's not going tokill it, but that's going to
be part of its decline, right, and you want to just go start
getting a lot of you leaves onit and start looking thin. You might
still have flowers, but the qualityit's going to go from shooting at near

(35:06):
one hundred percent for attractiveness, you'regonna have a big drop. And honestly,
in most of our color planning,we would have already been pulling vanka
out except for the fact that it'sour our environmental conditions change. This is
this is a game changer. Youknow what we had this year? All
right, we've got another caller.You picked up the phone and calls for

(35:28):
nine gosh four nine nine six.I just I'm gonna have to let you
sit next to here. Bill,you may want to give me one of
those piece of papers. Corey,good morning, and thanks for calling the
w j B l Lawn the GardenShow. How are you good morning?
I'm fine. How are y'all doinggreat? God? I got a couple
of quick questions. Uh one,Uh, I've had some names with Trump.

(35:51):
It's growing in my yard now forabout ten years, and they really
never really were uh got more thana couple of feet tall. And if
I was lucky enough to get acouple of blooms on it each year,
that was, you know, aboutthe most I'd get. However, I
took out a large oak tree openingup some sunlight to the backyard this past
year, and this year it wentnuts. I mean it really you know,

(36:14):
it got the sunlight that it neededobviously, but it went really desert.
Now I'm really liking it. Wewant to make sure that I'm handling
it right going forward, so Iget blooms like this again next year.
I never really gave it any attentionafter the fall and just kind of let
it, you know, do itsthing. As far as dying back,
should I cut it all the wayback after it's finished blooming. No,

(36:37):
I don't. I'm gonna wait andsee, kind of guy, what happens
if we have him out of winter, it'll start off as tall as it
is now next year. Yeah,it doesn't help it to cut it back.
You know, this year I didthe same thing. I wait till
he freeze and then cut and thenclean him up and do that. And
just for clarification, Corey, yourflowers hang downward right correct, okay?

(36:58):
Right? And for ten years thisthing maybe got waste time. This year
with this proper sunlight that's been getting, it's almost eighty nine deep, tall
and loaded. That's kind of that'sgreat. You can fertilize them in the
spring, wait till they start towait till you see signs of growth.
Don't do it too early, andthen maybe April even and then and you'll
get even more flowers. Look foryou know, basically probably a one one

(37:22):
one ratio on fertilizer, and fertilizeit with that. It'll help it.
And uh uh and go what coloris yours? It's kind of a pink
okay, yeah, pretty well blushcolor. Yeah, And so a lot
of times at the end of winter, you might have some brown tips on
the ends of the stems. Youcan just clip those backs somewhat. Yeah.
Yeah, they're usually pretty strong.Yeah, I think it's a great

(37:45):
plant. In fact, they survivefor ten years and at a shade and
grew then. As you can see, they like more sun. They don't
want to be deep shade, right, and so I like a little bit
of shade and the hottest part ofthe day. To me, I think
it makes the leaves stay a morevibrant color. If it's in full sun.
Sometimes the leaves bleach a little bit, but it's got to be bright

(38:07):
light correct deep shade, that's deepshade, and a little rest in the
afternoon. Stuff like that. Iget, well, see you got all
right. I've got a bunch ofthem in pots. I'd like to put
those in the ground if possible.When would I be best, you know,
success in doing that if they're wellestablished in the pots. Just about

(38:27):
any time? Yeah, really,just whatever is good for you, Corey
two today, three, the nextweek, the rest of them next month.
It doesn't matter, Yeah, becauseeven putting them in the ground now
would be fine because they'd have alittle bit of chance to kind of root
out and establish themselves during the winter. I'm figuring he's already got a root
mass within the pots too. Soyeah, it's not it's not a it's
not total dormant. So I mean, I didn't know if you want to

(38:52):
separate them and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you just want to play
them like they are, Corey,or do you want to pull them apart
and spread out. I don't knowthat they these things aren't really multiplying,
but the bulbs are probably biggest softballs. Now Okay, well, okay,
I just put that straight into theground. Ye and I think you'll start

(39:12):
to see it multiply more, youknow, if it does that. Okay,
great, that was a great call. Yeah. You know, there
was something I was reading about anduh and I like to I like to
find these little odd ball facts aboutstuff. Okay, and uh, Venus
fly traps, you know North Carolinanative and the swampy you know, grassy
marshes, grassy swamps and uh.Not only do you know it has those

(39:37):
little hairs and it close up soyou have to touch like three hairs to
trigger. Yeah, but those hairsdo something else. They found Those hairs
have heat sensors in them really okay, And so since they got and growing
grass lines, you know there's there'salways the chance of fires. The grass
dries out, lightning strike, you'vegot fires. But those heat sensors in
there, Uh, well, ifyou they were testing, I mean,

(40:00):
if you put a probe in thereso you know you think, okay,
maybe they're touching them, it causesNo, they weren't doing that. If
you put a probe in there andit gets to be like, say,
one hundred degrees, they don't close, okay. But if you put a
probe in there and it's closer tomaybe one hundred and thirty five degrees,
it closes. That's interesting. Andthen not only does it, what has

(40:21):
to happen. This temperature has torise quickly because that's telling that there's a
fire coming. It can't just riseslowly, slowly, slowly and get to
that. You can't just go.So that has to rise quickly and then
it closes up. So they findthat during fires, by the fact that
it closes up helps preserve the tis, helps preserve the tissue. Wow,

(40:44):
especially helps preserve all those little tenacle, all those little feelers as little That
is really cool. And so wildfire comes in and they can it kind
of they'll sense that fire coming.As the temperature rises quickly they close up,
not becoming dormant. I mean,could get burned and be damned,
right, But a lot of timesa grass of firing grass, if they
have any wind, it moves through, sometimes very quickly. Right, and

(41:07):
then they were even totally untouched,and then one of cools they opened back
up. I was one time shoppingfor the nursery. I was heading to
Alabama, and when I got tothe Mississippi Alabama line, it was very
early in the morning. There's abob war fence on on the I was
on the eastbound side, so thatwould be the south side. Yeah,
and there's some grassland right there andalong the fence. I saw something tall

(41:30):
and yellowing and yellow, but Icouldn't focus on it, and like,
okay, I just remember scout onthe way back, we're going to stop.
So on the way back, rightthere, I'm thinking, okay,
I keep your eyes up. Isaw it on the north I was on
the westbound side. I pulled overon the side went down. Of course.
They were pitcher plants. Pitcher plants, yeah, and they were gorgeous.
But you know what, I becauseI'll stop on the side of the
road for anything, but I actuallystopped. I walked down to them.

(41:52):
I wanted to look at them closer. But while I was looking at those
and just enjoying them, when Ilooked down, sundew plants. Oh yeah,
by the millions. I was juststanding at them because I've spotted on
the interstate in Mississippi and going inand what was odd was they were growing
up a hill, so no moisture. But but they think. I talked

(42:15):
to a friend of mine and hesaid, who grows them? And he
said, no, Probably what's happenedis because that was a road cut.
There's a different type of soil therethat's holding water, maybe more humous in
that soil. Just a pocket thatyou're seeing up in there. But they're
native to South Louisiana and through southernMississippi and and and also in western Louisiana.

(42:37):
You know too. I've seen themin ditches over there. But but
that's that's picture plants. Another carnivorousplants, and so are the sundews.
They're carnivors also. It's just amazing. Yeah, and sun dews weren't but
an inch tope, right, SoI mean that was just I just thought
that was just fascinating standing looking atone and then opening my eyes and oh

(42:58):
gosh, I'm just standing in amillion and the picture plants. We see
the leaf which is tubular, right, but the flower is like probably it's
like almost like a daffodil flower,like two inches across and more. Yeah.
Yeah, it's anyway, just afact. It's a little interesting thing
about plants. You know, there'salways something new, There's always something new.
Yeah, Mother Nature she is soamazing takes care of things. You

(43:20):
know. I always show people wethink we're so smart, but we're not.
Yeah, that's right, all right, good show. Yeah, it's
great, thanks for coming. It'salways so enjoyable when you hear I just
I just love to talk about thedifferent things. And I wish we had
more people call. But maybe theywere just so enthralled with what was going
on that they were just willing tosit back and just listen. Maybe so,
but we like calls. I waslike, all right, we're going

(43:43):
to be at the store today.Remember season change, come in, get
some color, think about planting,plan on what you're going to plant with
you woody ornamentals and come in takea look, y'all, Enjoy your day.
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