August 11, 2025 • 43 mins
Management of moisture is what's on our minds this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Zane and Scott from Clegg's Nursery!
Our local experts explain why water management is critical this time of year, especially with new plantings! Also, learn about what effects heat can have on landscape.
Plus we answer your questions on lawn fertilization, turk's cap plants, pre-emergent herbicides, sweet olive trees and peas!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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Our local experts explain why water management is critical this time of year, especially with new plantings! Also, learn about what effects heat can have on landscape.
Plus we answer your questions on lawn fertilization, turk's cap plants, pre-emergent herbicides, sweet olive trees and peas!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the Wgboln and Garden Show,
brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you have a
question about seasonal planting, loning, garden concerns, or questions about landscaping,
called four nine nine WGBO. That's four nine nine two six.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, Baton rouge. We are here this morning at
the WJBO News Radio eleven fifty studios. I'm here this
morning with Zaane Mercer, Good morning, Zaying, good morning, and
Jeremy Porsine is at the board making us sound as
best as we can.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Oh, it makes me sound so crisp. But listen to
me the other day for the first time.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I have a question though on that lead end, Jeremy,
are the words and landscaping? Was that new? No, that's
been there for well, I should pay attention. Huh. Let's
see this is twenty twenty five. Yeah, all right, let's
not go.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Harry the fact or things about a data divide by
three hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's been there for a few years at plus ought. Yes,
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Maybe that just shows that we don't get you in
here as often as we used to, and we don't
that's why, and I do miss it or you just
never pay attention.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, we're still in that preparation stage just as we
get into the show. You know, that's right, the show start.
That's right, that's right, because I mean that's absolutely never mind.
We're actually are all right, So we are here this
morning in the studios and we can take phone calls
here at four nine nine five two six a's four
nine nine w JBO. I'll just start off that Jeremy
(01:37):
every time we are on this show, he ends up
posting it to the iHeartRadio app, which is free, and
you could look up WJBO Lawn and Garden Show for that,
and you can go back and listen if there was
some little thing that you were maybe you're driving and
you say, oh, I need to remember that, and you
can go back to the app and catch it later
and write it down and apply that to your your
(01:59):
gardening or give you a further questions to ask or whatever. Yeah, exactly, Well,
it is a beautiful day outside absolutely studio.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I mean, of course it'll be kind of hot
on the warm.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Side, but you know it's August and bat rouge to
be expected.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Right, I know, I was making jokes with the customer
yesterday about oh, it'll the temple break next week, right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The first my prediction, the first cool front to come through,
right at September fifteenth. It'll be mild and it won't last,
but it'll be there. Well, you'll feel it. Three degrees well,
I mean, I mean a cool front because we had technically,
I think something, something that's noticeable, obvious. How's that not
(02:47):
just like, oh, I think it's two degrees less than yesterday.
That's that's not exactly So how things been going? Oh,
not too bad. Thank you for filling it at Greenville
for me yesterday. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Good.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's always a pleasure over there, Yeah, especially you know
that's that's my fried chicken place, you know, all.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Right, no plugs, no plugs. Cashiers usually give me a
hard time. Yeah. I always used to do the Madeline's
because I lived near there, and I was always talking
about the flowers on it. So which thought I was
getting the well made fun, you know, So I didn't
get anything. Still, So it's it's August and it's hot,
and uh, you know, I'm sometimes I venture out my
(03:29):
yard to the grass. I might think, oh, there's a
what's happening over there? What's here or there? I noticed
right now in my yard in particular, there's three citrus
that are still alive from the freeze that I clipped dramatically,
and so much citrus leaf miner up in the fall.
(03:53):
It's just like bonanza between that and the white flies.
This year, I don't have any white flies on my
but I've got citrus sleep fider like, so I've got uh.
I mean, I had a beautiful set suma. Now I
half a beautiful set suma. Yeah. Well I don't even
have so no flowers or anything. Oh no, you know,
(04:15):
but yeah, I'm still working on hauling the debris away
out the yard. Mine was severe.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Sounds like you need some time off, yeah, well yeah yeah,
or bring your tractor over you know, yeah, yeah, tear
out my yard.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So yeah, so I mean that. I mean, I'm looking
at different weeds in my yard. I'm thinking, oh, look
at all that, and it's like, oh, it's too hot
probably to do anything with that. You know, a lot
of people are looking to do weed control right now
in their lawns, and this is there are some weeds
(04:51):
that can be controlled with certain insect in sex herbicides
at this time of the year with the heat, but
much of what we would use in a law for
wheed control was restricted by temperatures. So that's very very
important to know. Otherwise you'll do so much collateral damage
that you'll be convinced that you know that you spray
(05:12):
the wrong thing or something. So I mean, I had
a customer the other day with.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Dichondra MM and it was just like, really, man, you
just need to wait, wait till it cools off.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
A little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Because the best best actual liquid over the top control
you're going to want to use during the cooler months
on that.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Right, right, and that's and that's you can still use
granular pre emergent controls for certain things, which now that
I've said that, it pops into my mind that August, uh,
maybe the end of August into September putting out some
of the pre emergent for stickers, if that's been something
(05:53):
that you've had problems with in the past. A lot
of people don't realize that you can put a pre
emergent out for stickers, but it's not the norm. It's
not the dimension that we talk about all the time.
It's something more specific. Portrait is one of the names
that it goes under Gallery. It goes under that. Don't
ask me for the chemical name of that, but but
(06:14):
we do have that. It's like saban. Yes, it's uh.
It is a something which is available and you can use,
and you know a.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Lot of gallery since you brought it up. That is
an awesome pre emergent. I mean, uh, I know most homeowners,
just like myself, deal with chamber bitter on a daily basis. Yeah,
in both varieties gallery controls.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, so so listing for that in a flower bed
with annuals.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, as far as I'm aware, you can still spread
it out in the flower bed, right, because I mean
I used to use Snapshot commercially, right, and that's part. Yes,
that's one of the chemicals. That's one of the kidnap shots.
And I've never never had an issue. The only time
I've ever had issue was want to put Snapshot in
the lawn. I had some some we'll say some overdrift.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah. And then the one of the prene products, the
one in the gold label, is the same as the
same makeup as Snapshot.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's missing one active ingredient but I mean it's honestly,
I think I prefer that prene over all the other ones.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Really, it just it seems to have the best coverage. Yeah,
but you know, so often our choices are made. They're
price dependent, yes, and that one is more expensive, but
it does so much more.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean, last lasts for up to six months. Where's
most of the other preens are less.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right, some of the other ones are just treck Land. Yeah,
well just Treflant alone. So and and you know, pricing fertilizer,
so many people judge like, oh, I'll buy this fertilizer
over this furtilizer because this one doesn't cost as much
and I get a fifty pounds bag for this. But
what they don't realize is, you know, they're they're missing
(08:05):
some of the quality for that lower price. You're you're
missing you know that some of the newer furtilisers don't
have just NPK. They have a micronutrient blend in it.
They don't have just a moniniaical nitrogen. They have a
blending of a moniniacal with urea and then and then
a coated urea to extend that life of the nitrogen
(08:28):
so that you have a day to day feeding for
a much longer period than a feast and famine effect
that you can get by many of the commodity furloshers
use triple A, triple tain.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean, if I'm going to use say I use
triple eight, I mean I'm putting it out. I'll put
it out probably three times more often.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Right, but you're putting it out at a lower rate, yes,
small rate, more frequently to keep that nitrogen to do
the same building right.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Whereas I could just go out one time with say
special or train shrup.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Food right and do it once and not and forget
about it basically for a long time. And then you're
still getting the micronutrient packages with some of the better
fertilizers and that you wouldn't get with that triple eight
as well. Yep, that's not always that as big a deal,
but it can be. You know, when you're.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Looking, I'm just thinking about, like, you know, my time, right,
It's like do I want to spend it putting a
bunch of fertilizer out during the growing season, or do
I want to focus on like say, weed control.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, or pest control. So how much of your fertilization
are you doing in this heat, not very much. I do.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I do a little bit of liquid and feeding. I mean,
but I try and cut back during the hottest part
of the year.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah. And I'm almost never a liquid guy because two things.
First of all, it costs more for what you get.
It costs more, and then you have to do it
more often. It doesn't last as long. It's water soluble.
You get some rain, you're doing irrigation, you're flushing some
of that.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So yeah, and what I use the liquids, forward's primarily
like I have a wide range of house plants and
stuff I like to keep on my front porch, and
so I just I mean, I typically use it for that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just hook it up to my misters. It makes
me feel fancy. Oh oh yeah, So you're running it
through in with your irrigation system, not by hand. See,
that would be not as bad for me.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, And I don't do that. I mean, I'll just
do that during the growing season mostly. I'm like, I'll
do a little bit of grainule at the beginning of
the year, and then a little bit of liquid throughout
the year.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
If you're out there fertilizing during heat and dryness, one
thing you really need to make sure that you're doing
is and I'll tell you that quite often. Of course
my timing is proper, but I am not usually one
to go out and make my fertilizer application and do
all the watering afterwards. But I'm making sure that my
ground is not overly dry. When I'm doing it, I'm
(10:56):
paying attention to how I'm dispersing a fertilizer. But quite
often you should water your fertilizers in, and especially so
if the soil is dry, because then you can cause
some root burning and you'll have some discoloration, foliage burn,
some other things could happen as well.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, I mean during any high heat, high stress, strout
conditions and stuff. I mean, your pesticides and herbicides even.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Absolutely well, and your herbicides don't work as good during
a drought because if the plant is under drought, it
slows down its internal workings. And if it's doing that,
it's not absorbing those chemicals as you want them to
and distributing them throughout the plant as you want to happen. Also,
(11:43):
so I tell people quite often if they need to
spray something like I have a gravel area a piece
of property and sometimes I go out there and it's
just bone dry and I need to spray it. So
I have been known to go out there first thing
in the morning when i'm there and water that whole area, yep.
And then about four hours later then I come in
(12:04):
and I spray my herbicide so that the herbicide will
be taken into the plant and distributed properly throughout the
plant to have an effective kill. Otherwise I'm just wasting
my time.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, I usually just irrigate for three days before. Yeah,
you know, because it was like and a.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Fertilizer bag will tell you that, talk about watering before,
you know, making sure it's they have adequate ground moisture
or so. Yeah, but so so and the heat is
so bad what I mean, we had some some other
things that heat can Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean usually you'll see with high heat and you'll
see like leaf scorch, just like some leaf droppage, especially
like new plantings. I'll see like an for instance, Yeah,
a fresh azalea planted. I mean the square footage of
the root ball is.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Only Yeah, you got to remember, the water's got to
get where the roots are. Yeah. Anyway, we were talking
about some of the effects that heat has on things
in the landscape. And we were talking about you mentioned
like leaf scortch, leaf drop, some of these things, and
you did kind of mention newly planted at one point,
(13:16):
and you know, newly planted plants at this time of
the year, I mean there's still infants. They need they
need care, and there's some things that you know you
need to do. First of all, you always want to
make sure you've got your plants planting in a proper
environment for that plant, right, you don't want to take care,
I don't know, give me a shade plant.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, you don't want to put a you don't
want to put your hospital in the sun, Okay, because
I have people tell me you can put them in
full There are some but you know, just a general.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, so that can affect the plant a lot. But
swil moisture, to me, it's all a management of moisture
that helps so much. If you got your plant plant
in the right environment, if it's a plant like sun
and more sun and want it like shade and shade whatever,
you've got a good soil prep. I've always said that
(14:08):
the three most important things for getting your plants established
well is number one is ground preparation. Number two is
ground preparation, and number three is ground preparation. So I mean,
you don't really have a second chance to do that
once your plants in the ground, unless you want to
excavate your plants start all over again. So that's kind
of ridiculous. So let's let's put that effort in initially.
(14:31):
And that's where so much of the effort of planting
new plant is, right, is ground preparation. I mean that's
where people take the shortcuts. It's hot, oh my show,
Oh that dirt's hard, but you have to.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Spend a little bit of time, a little bit of money. Yeah,
on the actual bed. Fifty dollars hole for a five
dollars plant. Right, that's the old thing we like, you know,
I mean I really like your mushroom, compost, your alfalfa, humanate,
all that adding in.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
There's so much many things to make a good base
right and elevated. Yeah, we never I have a little
thing I say, never excavate, elevate. A lot of people
will dig out. You never told me that, now, well
I just did, and I'm looking at you. These other
(15:20):
people are just heading it over a radio. So but
you know a lot of people will oh, it's horrible clay.
So I dug that out and I filled it with
potting soil. Well, congratulations, you just made a holding, a
water holding spot that's right in the ground. That is
something we do not want to do. And since we
never know when we're going to get a rainy period
in Baton Rouge, having the bed elevator to where your
(15:41):
soul is ventilated is extremely important. You can always water,
but you cannot get the extra water out usually, so
you know, wanting to make sure that you elevate your
beds incorporation of a lot of organic matter, maybe some
little sandy material, some of the soils we sell soils
(16:04):
that would be compatible for that, or you could blend
your own with the bag materials that you said. You know,
it's just if you're not certain and you're going to
do a bed, come in and talk to somebody about
ground preparation. That's that's where it's at, ground preparation. We've
got a car, sane.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, I can't see because you know, yeah, because they
wonderful producer moved me over to the sun.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, we're playing magical chairs, so I was, yeah, Susan
good morning, and thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn a
Garden show. What's up.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Recently? A couple of weeks ago, somebody on the program
talked about fertilizing Saint Augustine grain. Okay, to quote, they said,
it was like a teenage boy that needed to eat
all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That sounded that was probably Butcher's I think so.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I think so. And he suggested three times during the
growing season. So what I need to know is it
too late?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I haven't. It is not so time, Susan. What does
your lawn look like? Does it look like a good
quality or a lower quality?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Looks pretty good?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Okay, fertilized it good in.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
The springtime and we had lots of rain.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Then would I would tell you I'm sorry, go ahead if.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I did it again, I wait for rain.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Before I did it, Okay. So I would tell you
that if your lawn is of good quality, that two
fertilizations this season would probably be just fine. You could
do one in the spring to get it off to
a good uh start start. If you needed to boost
the vigor of your grass, you could do it again,
(17:48):
maybe in June, and then you could do a fall fertilization.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
In September, okay, and that'd be a little different product.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's a little different product, not as much an I
in a little better potash the higher last number. So
there is a very good fertilization recommendation chart on the
LSU ag Center website, and it's a pamphlet on there
that you can access its best lawn management practices, and
(18:21):
it gives you whether you're going to use a fast
release fertilizer versus a slow release, and we would always
recommend a slow release. You do need to pay attention
to moisture content in the soil. You mentioned putting it
out right before a rain. That would be extremely beneficial.
And it would tell you two fertilizations earlier in the season,
(18:45):
and if the vigor of your grass warranted it, a
third fertilization later in the season. So if your grass
is already looking pretty decent and you've only done one fertilization,
you could do another fertilization now, just you know it,
because this is the high growth period. Put it out now.
Let your grass get thicker and fuller and all that
(19:07):
good stuff that a fertilization can help with.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Okay, And now we've used a fertilizer that had more
potash in it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
No, that would be more of the like for one
for September. There's a an orange bag.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That we sell, Yeah, fertilum lawn food plus iron.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's correct, and that's a really good fertilizer. And that
does not have any weed killer in it. So if
that happens to go into your flower bed, there's that's
no harm, no foul, it's just fine, okay, okay, and
water orange it's an orange bag that's correct.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Fertilizer plus irony blonde food plus iron. Oh, okay, thank you,
all right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But seen as a decent feeding grass. But some of
it depends on the type of soil you have. If
your soil is holding more nutrients or not whatever. So
but uh, and if your grass has not been doing
well and you've been doing all the proper things that
you can think of for it, but it's still not
you know, it's still not gaining speed on going to start,
(20:13):
go to a soil sample, get a soil sample, get
it to the LSU SOL test lab. It might be
that your pH is in the wrong range, and so
even if the nutrients are there, the plant can't absorb them. Properly,
so that can make a big, big difference in how
well your grass can do. Okay, great advice, thanks Susan.
(20:34):
And that's not just your grass, that could be for
a lot of different shrubs. I saw a photo that
somebody sent me the other day some Sussanqua's my goodness,
gracious green down the center and following some of the
lateral veins and the rest of the leaves just so yellow.
It was ridiculous. Well, that's a lack of iron. Does
(20:54):
it mean that there's no iron in the soil. No,
it doesn't exactly mean. I would think it's more the phs.
I would think the pH is all because quite often fertilizers.
It's funny because like that lawn food plus iron. It's
not that the other lawn foods don't have iron in it.
They just chose to put this one on the front
of the bag to catch your attention. Most good quality
(21:16):
furtilizers have iron in them. And if you've used those
in the past and your plants not greening up, it's
probably a pH problem. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Usually, if I mean, if I see a like amelia
struggling and like environment's good all that, uh, and it's
just not growing.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, there's something with the pH Yeah, you know. Well,
and you get that discoloration on the newest foliage. If
you're it goes into what they call an iron chlorrosis,
where the new foliage will show will exhibit a coloration
where the veins, the main veins are still green and
yellow in between. And that's it's important because how often
(21:58):
have you had somebody come in with gardenia leaves that
are and from the inside of the plant bright yellowing. Oh,
I need some iron and you're like, no, you really
don't know. So iron chlorrosis is always expressed in the
newest foliage. So if it's yellow leaves down in the
inside you mentioned it could be water management, you know,
and Isaiah can get iron chlorosis. But one leaf doesn't
(22:21):
live the entire life of the plant. If it's down
in the middle where it's not getting enough sunlight, the
plant goes he's not doing his job. I'll get rid
of him. Let's get rid of him. Yeah, so he
sucks in the good stuff, which leaves yellow before it
drops a leaf off. That's not iron chlorosis.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
So well, you know, you brought up a good topic, though,
what's that Guardenius?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
How about that isn't that a versatile shrub? I know,
isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And smells uh, I know, I tell you what though
to me they all smell the same.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, they say they don't. Oh, I can't tell. I mean,
I can't. Such a sweet smell that it just kind
of blends together for me. And such a wide range
of growth habits for those where the dwarf or ratacans
lower mounting form. I usually tell people they might get
about knee high smaller white flowers, but beautiful fraggers. Yeah,
(23:14):
frost proof that grows a little taller. I tell people,
Yeah it is now. Yeah, it hadn't been on the market.
I don't remember when it came on the market. But
it's kind of new white flowers august beauty vecchy i,
which you know is it's more of a tropical right right.
(23:37):
And we get those quite often more and ones that
have been shaped like a tree and sometimes they're braided
and they look fan. It also goes by amy.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
We call that amy and that that one's neat because
it's got such a defined leaf.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, yeah, really pretty with some of the other ones.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Forget, Oh, there's flash, which that one's new on the market. Yeah,
it's like we have network keeps that in stock more
variegated dwarf right looks very similar to the radecan. Yeah,
pillow talk, there's pillow talk and steady as she goes,
which we've actually been growing those.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, uh, pillar division, the hardy button styles. There's the
buttons and clins I believe. Yeah. Yeah, so a button
would be like only like five pedals around and where
the other ones are mostly full. Yeah, we would refer to
as doubles. We're getting the break sign every time. We're
gonna started getting on the roll that set. Man, if
(24:32):
you have questions you'd like to call in with, you
can pick up the phone call four nine five two
six four nine w JBO, and we'll try to give
you some help with whatever your question is. And until
y'all call, we're just going to talk. So we were
talking about gardenias before we went to the end of
the hour, I mean the mid mid hour break. So
(24:54):
we talked about some of the different varieties. But I
think we just said something about a button style which
is like five or six petals around, no fluff in
the middle. Well, it's still fragrant, it's still really fragrant.
It's still really pretty. It reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Like the old timey gardena like I remember for some
reason of a pin like a boot near open.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I don't know, but I just remember.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think it was one of my great ants had
one that it was just super fragrant when you walked
over there.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And and some of the forwards on. Some of these
are are varied in size, in shape, in shape right.
Some of them are skinny, like Frostproof is really skinny.
But something like August Beauty, or there's one called Mystery
that we don't get a lot of it. It's a big,
big foliage and I like it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Those typically because they've got that little I call it
like a ribbing or the leaf has apps.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, the way the veins are, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Like that's just a I mean, it kind of gives
it a texture look. So, but you know, they just
there's so many different kinds. They're all pretty. They're all
pretty hearty. Once established, as soon as they're in the
right little locate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's right. They don't like to stay trying to get
them established. I would recommend doing that, like in the
fall or winter. They don't like it too wet, No,
they don't like it too dry. They don't like the
pH too high. So you get those three three things right,
and usually they'll take off just fine. Yeah, and we
(26:20):
tell you all the time that you know they don't
like to stay too wet. Well, I've got a little
place down by the river that regularly floods, and I've
got some august beauty that quite often are sitting in
water for a week at a time, and they're doing there.
When I bought the place ten years ago, they were
still family established. I must just be a really sandy
soil so that when the water goes down it I.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Don't know, you know, And thinking about it, I should
have let my neighbor know.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That we were talking about Gurdena's. He probably would have
tuned in Kevin.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, so so But anyway, No, we've got
tons of varieties and just heavy blimmer. One thing he
kind of touched on was like a city to level,
which is something we deal with.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
At the nursery.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Because our water pH is high, it's usually it's pretty
alkaline for the most part, so I usually have to
amend with epsom salt and you know.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
In your flower bed you might add some sulfur. Had
to drop your pH in the pot. It flushes so often.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You use something fast acting, right, But like I like
the alluminum sulfate. That's probably my favorite old pH changer.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, sulfur is great, but it takes so long for
that to interact. A year later, you can still see
yellow platelets in the ground. So yeah, we've got a collar.
Let's see what we've got burg. Good morning, and thanks
for calling the WJBO Lawn a garden show. What's up
this morning? Good morning.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I was just wondering what should I put on a
turk's cap. I think it's the second year I've had it.
And last year I had a lot of bloom.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And then.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
We had a cold winter, and then this year it's
about out five feet high, but all the h there's
not one bloom on it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Did you have to cut it back? Did it died
down low? Tell me what happened.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
During the hair I had to cut it back. I
didn't cover it up when it got real cold. I
think it went down to nine degrees or something.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, so is it growing vigorously? Very That's where your
energy for your flowers is, right there is trying to
regrow so you're just gonna have to let it get
to an equilibrium point and it'll start to bloom again.
So quite often when something dies down, a tropical dies down,
(28:41):
is trying to get its size back up. Almost all
of the energy goes into vegetative as opposed to reproductive,
so you get growth but no flowers. It should settle down,
but there's not much that you can do to force
it into that.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Fine, it's pretty So I've got a lot of fire
spike at home, and it's I feel like, does the
exact same thing like I cut it back in the
winter time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It doesn't put a flyer out.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It just started, you know, just because it's got to
catch up and get to a size.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah. So not much you can do except for just
practicing patience on that one. Okay, okay, thank you, all right,
I have a good one. We've got another caller from Reggie. Reggie,
good morning, thanks for calling the Baton Rouge by the
Baton Rouge w w b r z jp O Larnie
Guard Show. Well, I'm just all over the place, aren't I.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
That's okay, good morning, good morning's good morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I just wanted to ask you guys, a question about
Preamorgy herbesize. Right now, I'm having a lot of issues
with weeds in my line, and I want to know
the pros and cons between using dementia and we beater complete.
Could you explain that to the please what's the difference?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So you're well right now, Reggie, I think as far
as using a pre emergent, you're not probably in the
most effective period to get your money's worth out of
the pre emergion because most of the material is already
up and growing. So we got your warm season weeds,
(30:17):
you got your cool season weeds. A lot of the
warm season is not that there's stuff not sprouting, but
most of it's already up. So I don't think you're
going to get the full benefit out of your full
value out of your pre emergent using it this late
in the season, especially on a lawn. I would have
used that like much earlier in the spring.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
And now what about the weed either complete.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And I'm kind of on the fence. I feel like
that's a This is just my opinion. I just feel
like that's a convenience item. Like you know, it's a
post emergent and pre emergent. It does warm season and
cool season. You know, it's just like a catch all.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So but you could get some benefit from right, you
could get some benefit from the post immersion portion of it.
And if we were closer to September, you might get
some benefit from the pre immersion portion of it. But
I don't know, we're in August. You might have some
longevity enough to go into September. Uh, some of that's
(31:13):
going to be dependent on the rain and the moisture
flow over that material, because some of that will wear
down the effectiveness of the chemical. Okay, and I found
that the what was it?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I found that the weed beat a completes, like does
a great job on like those cool season weeds, and
that that are as we go into the spring. I
guess it's it does a number on poeanna, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
But it's just it's kind of a weird product because
it's a pre m post Yeah, trying to catch it.
You're trying to catch it right in that that blending
from one season to the next. You're trying to catch
the things that hadn't quite sprouted and knocking out the
things that were already there.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Okay, we say from one season to the next, what
time period of the months you're talking about, well.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm talking about like transition from summer into fall and
transition from winter into spring.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Okay, gotcha, it makes sense.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Makes sense.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Okay, guys, I do appreciate the information.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
That's Reggie, you have a great one. So the thing
we're talking about, you know, what we've had we haven't
talked about. We have to talked about one of the
things we have, and it might be a little late
in the season, but we have some of the second
year of some of the most beautiful varieties of manda
villas that were purples and oranges and just.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Like different shades of pink, right, such a different range.
I mean, granted you've been in the industry longer than I,
but you know, when I first started, it was like
you got a mandavilla in white, pink, red, and yellow,
and there's a yellow yellow I always thought was very weak.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, well, the the yellow looks so different.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I mean, the little flower looks like an alemanda flower
of most it does.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It does, but in the foliage and it was vigorous
and the vining and such. But there has been so
much breeding in the last few years. The sun parasol
series has all kinds of colors. We've got oranges and
different pinks and purply there's one that they call blue.
There's a there's an orange, very vigorous vining plant loves
(33:33):
full sun. I would tell you that it's going to
be a temporary for a trellis because in the wintertime
it's going to die down. And most of the time
a mandavilla will not make it through the winter here
unless you protect it. And when you say protected, most
of the time that's going to require a heated greenhouse,
not just to shove up in the corner of the
back porch. And it's risky putting it in the in
(33:55):
the garage, right and and if you put it in
a garage, it might be alive, but the next year,
the vigor usually is so poor that it's not going
to give you any perfect I would like to mention.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Uh So, the whole Sun Parasol series, they've done a
whole lot of hybridizing between Dipladinia and Mandavia, blurring the
kind of the line which for cousins anyway, Yeah, but
you know it's just a Dipladinia puts on a fake
I used to come like little fake runners where Yeah,
well it doesn't quite latch on to trellis.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Well, they grow, so technically it's a vine. But I
tell the employees sometimes they can't tell the difference between
what's the Mandeville's and the diplodinias. The Mandeville's always have
something in the pots that they can climb on. Yeah,
but a diplodinia doesn't because, like you said, it grows.
It puts up these little it's a twining type vine,
(34:48):
but it grows slow. So the growers, instead of having
to put in labor and more costs for a trellis whatever,
they just clip the top and makes it look like
a little bush yep, and it does that. Well, you
you can do that well, or you can let it
grow and you'll have a much slower growning, growing twining vine.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Now, the like the blue Fia for instance, that's the
blue series. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen
that actually climb, you know, it just stays nice and
tight compact, and it puts on that deep bluish purple.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah. There are colors that you've not if you're familiar
with mend villas of the past, these are colors that
you just would not imagine for them. They look fake.
You know at first you go, oh, what's that and
it's like, oh jeez, that's that's really pretty. So so
the you know, just something to keep in mind. Beautiful tropicals.
(35:45):
We've grown them for this is our second year. Still
have plenty of stock. But again they're not winter hardy,
but you can give you a lot of color. I
waste a lot of money on things that don't give
me as pleasure as long as these would. So we
actually had somebody call the I guess that's the jeremy
(36:06):
how how does that work?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
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Speaker 2 (36:25):
Did is it too late to fertilize my sweet olive trees?
That's a good question, and so that's kind of cool. Yeah,
very cool. So which is that? Again? That's available on
the iHeart radio and you can go to the WJBO
Launa Garden Show and I'm listen.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
It's available on the podcast too if you want to
leave us a message that way, but you can also
just you know, open up jabo leave a message whenever
you want.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
All right, cool, So it is not too late to
furtilage your sweet olives some of the things we mentioned earlier.
You know, making sure that if you apply your fertilizer,
you've got adequate ground moisture. If you, uh, that's one
of those plants that's a little more acid loving. If
you had an acid based fertilizer, if you had to
(37:09):
go out and buy something, you might and I wanted
to focus on that. You could you could ask, uh,
you could use on Isaiah familia food or something that
had blueberries on it, because that's typically an acid based fertilizer.
But that would not stop you from using just about
any fertilizer, even if it just said fruit and pecan
in your house instead of buying fifteen different fertilizers to
(37:30):
store in your garage, which I think is ridiculous. So
I would use what I had. If it was a
commodity fertilizer like Triple eight or Triple thirteen, I'd make
sure I did it. In light doses and more frequently
if necessary. But I usually like to tell people to
stop fertilizing their evergreen material around the beginning of September.
That way, we're not forcing new growth to lateness season
(37:52):
that might be affected by a quick freeze.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah, because I mean you put you put fertilizer down October.
I mean that fertilizer is still typically gonna be active
all the way into December.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's right. And if we have warm season going into that,
you've got new growth coming out, new growth coming out,
new growth coming out. All of a sudden, that big
first coal front comes in and all that growth is
tender and now it's all damaged exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So, uh, you know, we talked about the manda Via
hybrids all that, and so that was pretty good. I
always think it's kind of neat some of the new
plants or new products on the market. I kind of
think it's wild how far it's come we've come with that,
just as the range of colors. So I did get
a text those one of my one of my coworkers
(38:46):
was talking about.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Oh that somebody started to request pansies. Yeah, I got
that one was different.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Oh okay, yeah, Reggie who was talking about Morocco begonias,
So I'd have to look up what a Morocco pogonia.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'm pretty sure that's the big leaf pogonias. Uh, not
the dragon No, but no, I think we get that
one sometimes in some of the Yeah, sometimes we get
that in hanging baskets. Which pogonias are actually pretty strong
and they're very drought tolerant. People don't realize they're actually
a very good plant, uh for summertime. You don't have
to water them that much. Matter of fact, if you
(39:21):
keep them too wet, that's a sure way to rot
them out.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It's a weird plant that will come back and that
can sometimes come back to yeah typically like growing up,
I just thought.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Of it as an annual right. Oh, but no. And
there's of course some bogoonias, some of the Tubers's pagoonias
that are maybe strong. But even a wax leaf pogonia
in a semi protected spot or as you do where
you blow your leaves up on top in the winter time,
you can have a repetition from year to year.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
In fact, and I just I think it's wild because
it's like it's such a tender plant. Yeah, or you
think he's tender, but he's stronger, stronger, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah. So Claude has picked up the phones. Six and
let's go to Claude since we're starting to get a
little late in the show. Claud good morning, thanks for
calling the WJBOL the Garden Show. What's up, hi, guys.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
I'm planted some peas, pull motes, bats and uh and
cucumbers up. I'm planting some peas. I plink about playing
of them too thick, but that's that.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
I always wondering if there's anything I could do to them.
They're real thick right now, because I wonder I could
do anything to the peas, any kind of supplement I
could put in the soul to make them bloom. But
they're not blooming right now.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So you did you did like English peas, or you
did like the summer piece like black eyed peas and Mississippi.
Speaker 8 (40:36):
The I don't know. I'm really not sure what I play.
They're a little small piece, a little small red piece.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Okay, so some of the summer pieces. Yeah yeah, yeah, no,
uh no, patience, just leave the alone. Yeah yeah, don't put,
don't put fertilized. Yeah, no, no fertilizer, Claud, Yeah, uh,
too much fertile too Uh. Those peas should be pulling
nitrogen from the air on their own, and then over
(41:02):
fertilization will cause excessive growth and low blooming and low yields.
So uh nope, patients, leave them alone.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, next time, if you plant their two tooth thick,
take a pair of scissors, go out there and just
snip them off at the ground level. Yep. Yeah. You just.
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Looks like a jungle in there right now.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I'll leave them alone now. Yeah, okay, all right, thanks,
I've had okay, takes care. So we've got a little
less than two minutes. So and I just kind of
mentioned you were talking about the uh the text we
all got about the pansies. It's too early for pansies, guys.
We in general I would tell you never plant pansies
(41:42):
before October first, But in truth, I would not even
plan on October first. Usually I would go into October
to where it's a little more regular cooling to complete October, yeah,
with a chance for the soil temperatures to cool down,
because high soil temperatures for pansies is not good. There
(42:02):
are pathogens which are active in the warmer temperatures that
will negatively affect the pansies. So there are other things
you can plant early though. You could plant petunias early.
You could do snap dragons, so you could do these pansies.
We want to wait till almost now. That's like the
(42:23):
last bitting plant.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
One.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, great plant, but you have to exercise some patience
on those two. The ollers are outstanding. They are extremely strong.
I tell people they shouldn't have named them pansies because
they're strong, you know, one of the best things for
the time. Guys. I hope y'all get out, enjoy yourself,
go explore, go look in your yard, see if there's
things you need to think about before a good planting
(42:46):
season comes in. Zaye, thanks for being here, Jeremy, thanks
for that, bat Rouge, have a great day, and don't
forget visit the iHeartRadio WJBO Lawn and Garden Show, Apple
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, Baton rouge. We are here this morning at
the WJBO News Radio eleven fifty studios. I'm here this
morning with Zaane Mercer, Good morning, Zaying, good morning, and
Jeremy Porsine is at the board making us sound as
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Oh, it makes me sound so crisp. But listen to
me the other day for the first time.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I have a question though on that lead end, Jeremy,
are the words and landscaping? Was that new? No, that's
been there for well, I should pay attention. Huh. Let's
see this is twenty twenty five. Yeah, all right, let's
not go.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Harry the fact or things about a data divide by
three hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's been there for a few years at plus ought. Yes,
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Maybe that just shows that we don't get you in
here as often as we used to, and we don't
that's why, and I do miss it or you just
never pay attention.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, we're still in that preparation stage just as we
get into the show. You know, that's right, the show start.
That's right, that's right, because I mean that's absolutely never mind.
We're actually are all right, So we are here this
morning in the studios and we can take phone calls
here at four nine nine five two six a's four
nine nine w JBO. I'll just start off that Jeremy
(01:37):
every time we are on this show, he ends up
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you could look up WJBO Lawn and Garden Show for that,
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(01:59):
gardening or give you a further questions to ask or whatever. Yeah, exactly, Well,
it is a beautiful day outside absolutely studio.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I mean, of course it'll be kind of hot
on the warm.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Side, but you know it's August and bat rouge to
be expected.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Right, I know, I was making jokes with the customer
yesterday about oh, it'll the temple break next week, right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The first my prediction, the first cool front to come through,
right at September fifteenth. It'll be mild and it won't last,
but it'll be there. Well, you'll feel it. Three degrees well,
I mean, I mean a cool front because we had technically,
I think something, something that's noticeable, obvious. How's that not
(02:47):
just like, oh, I think it's two degrees less than yesterday.
That's that's not exactly So how things been going? Oh,
not too bad. Thank you for filling it at Greenville
for me yesterday. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Good.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's always a pleasure over there, Yeah, especially you know
that's that's my fried chicken place, you know, all.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Right, no plugs, no plugs. Cashiers usually give me a
hard time. Yeah. I always used to do the Madeline's
because I lived near there, and I was always talking
about the flowers on it. So which thought I was
getting the well made fun, you know, So I didn't
get anything. Still, So it's it's August and it's hot,
and uh, you know, I'm sometimes I venture out my
(03:29):
yard to the grass. I might think, oh, there's a
what's happening over there? What's here or there? I noticed
right now in my yard in particular, there's three citrus
that are still alive from the freeze that I clipped dramatically,
and so much citrus leaf miner up in the fall.
(03:53):
It's just like bonanza between that and the white flies.
This year, I don't have any white flies on my
but I've got citrus sleep fider like, so I've got uh.
I mean, I had a beautiful set suma. Now I
half a beautiful set suma. Yeah. Well I don't even
have so no flowers or anything. Oh no, you know,
(04:15):
but yeah, I'm still working on hauling the debris away
out the yard. Mine was severe.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Sounds like you need some time off, yeah, well yeah yeah,
or bring your tractor over you know, yeah, yeah, tear
out my yard.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So yeah, so I mean that. I mean, I'm looking
at different weeds in my yard. I'm thinking, oh, look
at all that, and it's like, oh, it's too hot
probably to do anything with that. You know, a lot
of people are looking to do weed control right now
in their lawns, and this is there are some weeds
(04:51):
that can be controlled with certain insect in sex herbicides
at this time of the year with the heat, but
much of what we would use in a law for
wheed control was restricted by temperatures. So that's very very
important to know. Otherwise you'll do so much collateral damage
that you'll be convinced that you know that you spray
(05:12):
the wrong thing or something. So I mean, I had
a customer the other day with.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Dichondra MM and it was just like, really, man, you
just need to wait, wait till it cools off.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
A little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Because the best best actual liquid over the top control
you're going to want to use during the cooler months
on that.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Right, right, and that's and that's you can still use
granular pre emergent controls for certain things, which now that
I've said that, it pops into my mind that August, uh,
maybe the end of August into September putting out some
of the pre emergent for stickers, if that's been something
(05:53):
that you've had problems with in the past. A lot
of people don't realize that you can put a pre
emergent out for stickers, but it's not the norm. It's
not the dimension that we talk about all the time.
It's something more specific. Portrait is one of the names
that it goes under Gallery. It goes under that. Don't
ask me for the chemical name of that, but but
(06:14):
we do have that. It's like saban. Yes, it's uh.
It is a something which is available and you can use,
and you know a.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Lot of gallery since you brought it up. That is
an awesome pre emergent. I mean, uh, I know most homeowners,
just like myself, deal with chamber bitter on a daily basis. Yeah,
in both varieties gallery controls.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, so so listing for that in a flower bed
with annuals.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, as far as I'm aware, you can still spread
it out in the flower bed, right, because I mean
I used to use Snapshot commercially, right, and that's part. Yes,
that's one of the chemicals. That's one of the kidnap shots.
And I've never never had an issue. The only time
I've ever had issue was want to put Snapshot in
the lawn. I had some some we'll say some overdrift.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah. And then the one of the prene products, the
one in the gold label, is the same as the
same makeup as Snapshot.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's missing one active ingredient but I mean it's honestly,
I think I prefer that prene over all the other ones.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Really, it just it seems to have the best coverage. Yeah,
but you know, so often our choices are made. They're
price dependent, yes, and that one is more expensive, but
it does so much more.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean, last lasts for up to six months. Where's
most of the other preens are less.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right, some of the other ones are just treck Land. Yeah,
well just Treflant alone. So and and you know, pricing fertilizer,
so many people judge like, oh, I'll buy this fertilizer
over this furtilizer because this one doesn't cost as much
and I get a fifty pounds bag for this. But
what they don't realize is, you know, they're they're missing
(08:05):
some of the quality for that lower price. You're you're
missing you know that some of the newer furtilisers don't
have just NPK. They have a micronutrient blend in it.
They don't have just a moniniaical nitrogen. They have a
blending of a moniniacal with urea and then and then
a coated urea to extend that life of the nitrogen
(08:28):
so that you have a day to day feeding for
a much longer period than a feast and famine effect
that you can get by many of the commodity furloshers
use triple A, triple tain.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean, if I'm going to use say I use
triple eight, I mean I'm putting it out. I'll put
it out probably three times more often.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Right, but you're putting it out at a lower rate, yes,
small rate, more frequently to keep that nitrogen to do
the same building right.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Whereas I could just go out one time with say
special or train shrup.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Food right and do it once and not and forget
about it basically for a long time. And then you're
still getting the micronutrient packages with some of the better
fertilizers and that you wouldn't get with that triple eight
as well. Yep, that's not always that as big a deal,
but it can be. You know, when you're.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Looking, I'm just thinking about, like, you know, my time, right,
It's like do I want to spend it putting a
bunch of fertilizer out during the growing season, or do
I want to focus on like say, weed control.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, or pest control. So how much of your fertilization
are you doing in this heat, not very much. I do.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I do a little bit of liquid and feeding. I mean,
but I try and cut back during the hottest part
of the year.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah. And I'm almost never a liquid guy because two things.
First of all, it costs more for what you get.
It costs more, and then you have to do it
more often. It doesn't last as long. It's water soluble.
You get some rain, you're doing irrigation, you're flushing some
of that.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So yeah, and what I use the liquids, forward's primarily
like I have a wide range of house plants and
stuff I like to keep on my front porch, and
so I just I mean, I typically use it for that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just hook it up to my misters. It makes
me feel fancy. Oh oh yeah, So you're running it
through in with your irrigation system, not by hand. See,
that would be not as bad for me.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, And I don't do that. I mean, I'll just
do that during the growing season mostly. I'm like, I'll
do a little bit of grainule at the beginning of
the year, and then a little bit of liquid throughout
the year.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
If you're out there fertilizing during heat and dryness, one
thing you really need to make sure that you're doing
is and I'll tell you that quite often. Of course
my timing is proper, but I am not usually one
to go out and make my fertilizer application and do
all the watering afterwards. But I'm making sure that my
ground is not overly dry. When I'm doing it, I'm
(10:56):
paying attention to how I'm dispersing a fertilizer. But quite
often you should water your fertilizers in, and especially so
if the soil is dry, because then you can cause
some root burning and you'll have some discoloration, foliage burn,
some other things could happen as well.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, I mean during any high heat, high stress, strout
conditions and stuff. I mean, your pesticides and herbicides even.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Absolutely well, and your herbicides don't work as good during
a drought because if the plant is under drought, it
slows down its internal workings. And if it's doing that,
it's not absorbing those chemicals as you want them to
and distributing them throughout the plant as you want to happen. Also,
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so I tell people quite often if they need to
spray something like I have a gravel area a piece
of property and sometimes I go out there and it's
just bone dry and I need to spray it. So
I have been known to go out there first thing
in the morning when i'm there and water that whole area, yep.
And then about four hours later then I come in
(12:04):
and I spray my herbicide so that the herbicide will
be taken into the plant and distributed properly throughout the
plant to have an effective kill. Otherwise I'm just wasting
my time.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, I usually just irrigate for three days before. Yeah,
you know, because it was like and a.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Fertilizer bag will tell you that, talk about watering before,
you know, making sure it's they have adequate ground moisture
or so. Yeah, but so so and the heat is
so bad what I mean, we had some some other
things that heat can Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean usually you'll see with high heat and you'll
see like leaf scorch, just like some leaf droppage, especially
like new plantings. I'll see like an for instance, Yeah,
a fresh azalea planted. I mean the square footage of
the root ball is.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Only Yeah, you got to remember, the water's got to
get where the roots are. Yeah. Anyway, we were talking
about some of the effects that heat has on things
in the landscape. And we were talking about you mentioned
like leaf scortch, leaf drop, some of these things, and
you did kind of mention newly planted at one point,
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and you know, newly planted plants at this time of
the year, I mean there's still infants. They need they
need care, and there's some things that you know you
need to do. First of all, you always want to
make sure you've got your plants planting in a proper
environment for that plant, right, you don't want to take care,
I don't know, give me a shade plant.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, you don't want to put a you don't
want to put your hospital in the sun, Okay, because
I have people tell me you can put them in
full There are some but you know, just a general.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, so that can affect the plant a lot. But
swil moisture, to me, it's all a management of moisture
that helps so much. If you got your plant plant
in the right environment, if it's a plant like sun
and more sun and want it like shade and shade whatever,
you've got a good soil prep. I've always said that
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the three most important things for getting your plants established
well is number one is ground preparation. Number two is
ground preparation, and number three is ground preparation. So I mean,
you don't really have a second chance to do that
once your plants in the ground, unless you want to
excavate your plants start all over again. So that's kind
of ridiculous. So let's let's put that effort in initially.
(14:31):
And that's where so much of the effort of planting
new plant is, right, is ground preparation. I mean that's
where people take the shortcuts. It's hot, oh my show,
Oh that dirt's hard, but you have to.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Spend a little bit of time, a little bit of money. Yeah,
on the actual bed. Fifty dollars hole for a five
dollars plant. Right, that's the old thing we like, you know,
I mean I really like your mushroom, compost, your alfalfa, humanate,
all that adding in.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
There's so much many things to make a good base
right and elevated. Yeah, we never I have a little
thing I say, never excavate, elevate. A lot of people
will dig out. You never told me that, now, well
I just did, and I'm looking at you. These other
(15:20):
people are just heading it over a radio. So but
you know a lot of people will oh, it's horrible clay.
So I dug that out and I filled it with
potting soil. Well, congratulations, you just made a holding, a
water holding spot that's right in the ground. That is
something we do not want to do. And since we
never know when we're going to get a rainy period
in Baton Rouge, having the bed elevator to where your
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soul is ventilated is extremely important. You can always water,
but you cannot get the extra water out usually, so
you know, wanting to make sure that you elevate your
beds incorporation of a lot of organic matter, maybe some
little sandy material, some of the soils we sell soils
(16:04):
that would be compatible for that, or you could blend
your own with the bag materials that you said. You know,
it's just if you're not certain and you're going to
do a bed, come in and talk to somebody about
ground preparation. That's that's where it's at, ground preparation. We've
got a car, sane.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, I can't see because you know, yeah, because they
wonderful producer moved me over to the sun.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, we're playing magical chairs, so I was, yeah, Susan
good morning, and thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn a
Garden show. What's up.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Recently? A couple of weeks ago, somebody on the program
talked about fertilizing Saint Augustine grain. Okay, to quote, they said,
it was like a teenage boy that needed to eat
all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That sounded that was probably Butcher's I think so.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I think so. And he suggested three times during the
growing season. So what I need to know is it
too late?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I haven't. It is not so time, Susan. What does
your lawn look like? Does it look like a good
quality or a lower quality?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Looks pretty good?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Okay, fertilized it good in.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
The springtime and we had lots of rain.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Then would I would tell you I'm sorry, go ahead if.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I did it again, I wait for rain.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Before I did it, Okay. So I would tell you
that if your lawn is of good quality, that two
fertilizations this season would probably be just fine. You could
do one in the spring to get it off to
a good uh start start. If you needed to boost
the vigor of your grass, you could do it again,
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maybe in June, and then you could do a fall fertilization.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
In September, okay, and that'd be a little different product.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's a little different product, not as much an I
in a little better potash the higher last number. So
there is a very good fertilization recommendation chart on the
LSU ag Center website, and it's a pamphlet on there
that you can access its best lawn management practices, and
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it gives you whether you're going to use a fast
release fertilizer versus a slow release, and we would always
recommend a slow release. You do need to pay attention
to moisture content in the soil. You mentioned putting it
out right before a rain. That would be extremely beneficial.
And it would tell you two fertilizations earlier in the season,
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and if the vigor of your grass warranted it, a
third fertilization later in the season. So if your grass
is already looking pretty decent and you've only done one fertilization,
you could do another fertilization now, just you know it,
because this is the high growth period. Put it out now.
Let your grass get thicker and fuller and all that
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good stuff that a fertilization can help with.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Okay, And now we've used a fertilizer that had more
potash in it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
No, that would be more of the like for one
for September. There's a an orange bag.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That we sell, Yeah, fertilum lawn food plus iron.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's correct, and that's a really good fertilizer. And that
does not have any weed killer in it. So if
that happens to go into your flower bed, there's that's
no harm, no foul, it's just fine, okay, okay, and
water orange it's an orange bag that's correct.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Fertilizer plus irony blonde food plus iron. Oh, okay, thank you,
all right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But seen as a decent feeding grass. But some of
it depends on the type of soil you have. If
your soil is holding more nutrients or not whatever. So
but uh, and if your grass has not been doing
well and you've been doing all the proper things that
you can think of for it, but it's still not
you know, it's still not gaining speed on going to start,
(20:13):
go to a soil sample, get a soil sample, get
it to the LSU SOL test lab. It might be
that your pH is in the wrong range, and so
even if the nutrients are there, the plant can't absorb them. Properly,
so that can make a big, big difference in how
well your grass can do. Okay, great advice, thanks Susan.
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And that's not just your grass, that could be for
a lot of different shrubs. I saw a photo that
somebody sent me the other day some Sussanqua's my goodness,
gracious green down the center and following some of the
lateral veins and the rest of the leaves just so yellow.
It was ridiculous. Well, that's a lack of iron. Does
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it mean that there's no iron in the soil. No,
it doesn't exactly mean. I would think it's more the phs.
I would think the pH is all because quite often fertilizers.
It's funny because like that lawn food plus iron. It's
not that the other lawn foods don't have iron in it.
They just chose to put this one on the front
of the bag to catch your attention. Most good quality
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furtilizers have iron in them. And if you've used those
in the past and your plants not greening up, it's
probably a pH problem. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Usually, if I mean, if I see a like amelia
struggling and like environment's good all that, uh, and it's
just not growing.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, there's something with the pH Yeah, you know. Well,
and you get that discoloration on the newest foliage. If
you're it goes into what they call an iron chlorrosis,
where the new foliage will show will exhibit a coloration
where the veins, the main veins are still green and
yellow in between. And that's it's important because how often
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have you had somebody come in with gardenia leaves that
are and from the inside of the plant bright yellowing. Oh,
I need some iron and you're like, no, you really
don't know. So iron chlorrosis is always expressed in the
newest foliage. So if it's yellow leaves down in the
inside you mentioned it could be water management, you know,
and Isaiah can get iron chlorosis. But one leaf doesn't
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live the entire life of the plant. If it's down
in the middle where it's not getting enough sunlight, the
plant goes he's not doing his job. I'll get rid
of him. Let's get rid of him. Yeah, so he
sucks in the good stuff, which leaves yellow before it
drops a leaf off. That's not iron chlorosis.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
So well, you know, you brought up a good topic, though,
what's that Guardenius?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
How about that isn't that a versatile shrub? I know,
isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And smells uh, I know, I tell you what though
to me they all smell the same.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, they say they don't. Oh, I can't tell. I mean,
I can't. Such a sweet smell that it just kind
of blends together for me. And such a wide range
of growth habits for those where the dwarf or ratacans
lower mounting form. I usually tell people they might get
about knee high smaller white flowers, but beautiful fraggers. Yeah,
(23:14):
frost proof that grows a little taller. I tell people,
Yeah it is now. Yeah, it hadn't been on the market.
I don't remember when it came on the market. But
it's kind of new white flowers august beauty vecchy i,
which you know is it's more of a tropical right right.
(23:37):
And we get those quite often more and ones that
have been shaped like a tree and sometimes they're braided
and they look fan. It also goes by amy.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
We call that amy and that that one's neat because
it's got such a defined leaf.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, yeah, really pretty with some of the other ones.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Forget, Oh, there's flash, which that one's new on the market. Yeah,
it's like we have network keeps that in stock more
variegated dwarf right looks very similar to the radecan. Yeah,
pillow talk, there's pillow talk and steady as she goes,
which we've actually been growing those.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, uh, pillar division, the hardy button styles. There's the
buttons and clins I believe. Yeah. Yeah, so a button
would be like only like five pedals around and where
the other ones are mostly full. Yeah, we would refer to
as doubles. We're getting the break sign every time. We're
gonna started getting on the roll that set. Man, if
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you have questions you'd like to call in with, you
can pick up the phone call four nine five two
six four nine w JBO, and we'll try to give
you some help with whatever your question is. And until
y'all call, we're just going to talk. So we were
talking about gardenias before we went to the end of
the hour, I mean the mid mid hour break. So
(24:54):
we talked about some of the different varieties. But I
think we just said something about a button style which
is like five or six petals around, no fluff in
the middle. Well, it's still fragrant, it's still really fragrant.
It's still really pretty. It reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Like the old timey gardena like I remember for some
reason of a pin like a boot near open.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I don't know, but I just remember.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think it was one of my great ants had
one that it was just super fragrant when you walked
over there.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And and some of the forwards on. Some of these
are are varied in size, in shape, in shape right.
Some of them are skinny, like Frostproof is really skinny.
But something like August Beauty, or there's one called Mystery
that we don't get a lot of it. It's a big,
big foliage and I like it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Those typically because they've got that little I call it
like a ribbing or the leaf has apps.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, the way the veins are, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Like that's just a I mean, it kind of gives
it a texture look. So, but you know, they just
there's so many different kinds. They're all pretty. They're all
pretty hearty. Once established, as soon as they're in the
right little locate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's right. They don't like to stay trying to get
them established. I would recommend doing that, like in the
fall or winter. They don't like it too wet, No,
they don't like it too dry. They don't like the
pH too high. So you get those three three things right,
and usually they'll take off just fine. Yeah, and we
(26:20):
tell you all the time that you know they don't
like to stay too wet. Well, I've got a little
place down by the river that regularly floods, and I've
got some august beauty that quite often are sitting in
water for a week at a time, and they're doing there.
When I bought the place ten years ago, they were
still family established. I must just be a really sandy
soil so that when the water goes down it I.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Don't know, you know, And thinking about it, I should
have let my neighbor know.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That we were talking about Gurdena's. He probably would have
tuned in Kevin.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, so so But anyway, No, we've got
tons of varieties and just heavy blimmer. One thing he
kind of touched on was like a city to level,
which is something we deal with.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
At the nursery.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Because our water pH is high, it's usually it's pretty
alkaline for the most part, so I usually have to
amend with epsom salt and you know.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
In your flower bed you might add some sulfur. Had
to drop your pH in the pot. It flushes so often.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You use something fast acting, right, But like I like
the alluminum sulfate. That's probably my favorite old pH changer.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, sulfur is great, but it takes so long for
that to interact. A year later, you can still see
yellow platelets in the ground. So yeah, we've got a collar.
Let's see what we've got burg. Good morning, and thanks
for calling the WJBO Lawn a garden show. What's up
this morning? Good morning.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I was just wondering what should I put on a
turk's cap. I think it's the second year I've had it.
And last year I had a lot of bloom.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And then.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
We had a cold winter, and then this year it's
about out five feet high, but all the h there's
not one bloom on it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Did you have to cut it back? Did it died
down low? Tell me what happened.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
During the hair I had to cut it back. I
didn't cover it up when it got real cold. I
think it went down to nine degrees or something.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, so is it growing vigorously? Very That's where your
energy for your flowers is, right there is trying to
regrow so you're just gonna have to let it get
to an equilibrium point and it'll start to bloom again.
So quite often when something dies down, a tropical dies down,
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is trying to get its size back up. Almost all
of the energy goes into vegetative as opposed to reproductive,
so you get growth but no flowers. It should settle down,
but there's not much that you can do to force
it into that.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Fine, it's pretty So I've got a lot of fire
spike at home, and it's I feel like, does the
exact same thing like I cut it back in the
winter time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It doesn't put a flyer out.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It just started, you know, just because it's got to
catch up and get to a size.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah. So not much you can do except for just
practicing patience on that one. Okay, okay, thank you, all right,
I have a good one. We've got another caller from Reggie. Reggie,
good morning, thanks for calling the Baton Rouge by the
Baton Rouge w w b r z jp O Larnie
Guard Show. Well, I'm just all over the place, aren't I.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
That's okay, good morning, good morning's good morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I just wanted to ask you guys, a question about
Preamorgy herbesize. Right now, I'm having a lot of issues
with weeds in my line, and I want to know
the pros and cons between using dementia and we beater complete.
Could you explain that to the please what's the difference?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So you're well right now, Reggie, I think as far
as using a pre emergent, you're not probably in the
most effective period to get your money's worth out of
the pre emergion because most of the material is already
up and growing. So we got your warm season weeds,
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you got your cool season weeds. A lot of the
warm season is not that there's stuff not sprouting, but
most of it's already up. So I don't think you're
going to get the full benefit out of your full
value out of your pre emergent using it this late
in the season, especially on a lawn. I would have
used that like much earlier in the spring.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
And now what about the weed either complete.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And I'm kind of on the fence. I feel like
that's a This is just my opinion. I just feel
like that's a convenience item. Like you know, it's a
post emergent and pre emergent. It does warm season and
cool season. You know, it's just like a catch all.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So but you could get some benefit from right, you
could get some benefit from the post immersion portion of it.
And if we were closer to September, you might get
some benefit from the pre immersion portion of it. But
I don't know, we're in August. You might have some
longevity enough to go into September. Uh, some of that's
(31:13):
going to be dependent on the rain and the moisture
flow over that material, because some of that will wear
down the effectiveness of the chemical. Okay, and I found
that the what was it?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I found that the weed beat a completes, like does
a great job on like those cool season weeds, and
that that are as we go into the spring. I
guess it's it does a number on poeanna, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
But it's just it's kind of a weird product because
it's a pre m post Yeah, trying to catch it.
You're trying to catch it right in that that blending
from one season to the next. You're trying to catch
the things that hadn't quite sprouted and knocking out the
things that were already there.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Okay, we say from one season to the next, what
time period of the months you're talking about, well.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm talking about like transition from summer into fall and
transition from winter into spring.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Okay, gotcha, it makes sense.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Makes sense.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Okay, guys, I do appreciate the information.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
That's Reggie, you have a great one. So the thing
we're talking about, you know, what we've had we haven't
talked about. We have to talked about one of the
things we have, and it might be a little late
in the season, but we have some of the second
year of some of the most beautiful varieties of manda
villas that were purples and oranges and just.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Like different shades of pink, right, such a different range.
I mean, granted you've been in the industry longer than I,
but you know, when I first started, it was like
you got a mandavilla in white, pink, red, and yellow,
and there's a yellow yellow I always thought was very weak.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, well, the the yellow looks so different.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I mean, the little flower looks like an alemanda flower
of most it does.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It does, but in the foliage and it was vigorous
and the vining and such. But there has been so
much breeding in the last few years. The sun parasol
series has all kinds of colors. We've got oranges and
different pinks and purply there's one that they call blue.
There's a there's an orange, very vigorous vining plant loves
(33:33):
full sun. I would tell you that it's going to
be a temporary for a trellis because in the wintertime
it's going to die down. And most of the time
a mandavilla will not make it through the winter here
unless you protect it. And when you say protected, most
of the time that's going to require a heated greenhouse,
not just to shove up in the corner of the
back porch. And it's risky putting it in the in
(33:55):
the garage, right and and if you put it in
a garage, it might be alive, but the next year,
the vigor usually is so poor that it's not going
to give you any perfect I would like to mention.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Uh So, the whole Sun Parasol series, they've done a
whole lot of hybridizing between Dipladinia and Mandavia, blurring the
kind of the line which for cousins anyway, Yeah, but
you know it's just a Dipladinia puts on a fake
I used to come like little fake runners where Yeah,
well it doesn't quite latch on to trellis.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Well, they grow, so technically it's a vine. But I
tell the employees sometimes they can't tell the difference between
what's the Mandeville's and the diplodinias. The Mandeville's always have
something in the pots that they can climb on. Yeah,
but a diplodinia doesn't because, like you said, it grows.
It puts up these little it's a twining type vine,
(34:48):
but it grows slow. So the growers, instead of having
to put in labor and more costs for a trellis whatever,
they just clip the top and makes it look like
a little bush yep, and it does that. Well, you
you can do that well, or you can let it
grow and you'll have a much slower growning, growing twining vine.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Now, the like the blue Fia for instance, that's the
blue series. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen
that actually climb, you know, it just stays nice and
tight compact, and it puts on that deep bluish purple.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah. There are colors that you've not if you're familiar
with mend villas of the past, these are colors that
you just would not imagine for them. They look fake.
You know at first you go, oh, what's that and
it's like, oh jeez, that's that's really pretty. So so
the you know, just something to keep in mind. Beautiful tropicals.
(35:45):
We've grown them for this is our second year. Still
have plenty of stock. But again they're not winter hardy,
but you can give you a lot of color. I
waste a lot of money on things that don't give
me as pleasure as long as these would. So we
actually had somebody call the I guess that's the jeremy
(36:06):
how how does that work?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app right now, you
don't have to call in at four nine nine ninety
five two six if you'd like, you can use the
talkback mic. If you're on the iHeartRadio app, there's a
red microphone when you're listening to JBO, and you can
tap that and leave a voice message like this person.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Did is it too late to fertilize my sweet olive trees?
That's a good question, and so that's kind of cool. Yeah,
very cool. So which is that? Again? That's available on
the iHeart radio and you can go to the WJBO
Launa Garden Show and I'm listen.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
It's available on the podcast too if you want to
leave us a message that way, but you can also
just you know, open up jabo leave a message whenever
you want.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
All right, cool, So it is not too late to
furtilage your sweet olives some of the things we mentioned earlier.
You know, making sure that if you apply your fertilizer,
you've got adequate ground moisture. If you, uh, that's one
of those plants that's a little more acid loving. If
you had an acid based fertilizer, if you had to
(37:09):
go out and buy something, you might and I wanted
to focus on that. You could you could ask, uh,
you could use on Isaiah familia food or something that
had blueberries on it, because that's typically an acid based fertilizer.
But that would not stop you from using just about
any fertilizer, even if it just said fruit and pecan
in your house instead of buying fifteen different fertilizers to
(37:30):
store in your garage, which I think is ridiculous. So
I would use what I had. If it was a
commodity fertilizer like Triple eight or Triple thirteen, I'd make
sure I did it. In light doses and more frequently
if necessary. But I usually like to tell people to
stop fertilizing their evergreen material around the beginning of September.
That way, we're not forcing new growth to lateness season
(37:52):
that might be affected by a quick freeze.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah, because I mean you put you put fertilizer down October.
I mean that fertilizer is still typically gonna be active
all the way into December.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's right. And if we have warm season going into that,
you've got new growth coming out, new growth coming out,
new growth coming out. All of a sudden, that big
first coal front comes in and all that growth is
tender and now it's all damaged exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So, uh, you know, we talked about the manda Via
hybrids all that, and so that was pretty good. I
always think it's kind of neat some of the new
plants or new products on the market. I kind of
think it's wild how far it's come we've come with that,
just as the range of colors. So I did get
a text those one of my one of my coworkers
(38:46):
was talking about.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Oh that somebody started to request pansies. Yeah, I got
that one was different.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Oh okay, yeah, Reggie who was talking about Morocco begonias,
So I'd have to look up what a Morocco pogonia.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'm pretty sure that's the big leaf pogonias. Uh, not
the dragon No, but no, I think we get that
one sometimes in some of the Yeah, sometimes we get
that in hanging baskets. Which pogonias are actually pretty strong
and they're very drought tolerant. People don't realize they're actually
a very good plant, uh for summertime. You don't have
to water them that much. Matter of fact, if you
(39:21):
keep them too wet, that's a sure way to rot
them out.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It's a weird plant that will come back and that
can sometimes come back to yeah typically like growing up,
I just thought.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Of it as an annual right. Oh, but no. And
there's of course some bogoonias, some of the Tubers's pagoonias
that are maybe strong. But even a wax leaf pogonia
in a semi protected spot or as you do where
you blow your leaves up on top in the winter time,
you can have a repetition from year to year.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
In fact, and I just I think it's wild because
it's like it's such a tender plant. Yeah, or you
think he's tender, but he's stronger, stronger, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah. So Claude has picked up the phones. Six and
let's go to Claude since we're starting to get a
little late in the show. Claud good morning, thanks for
calling the WJBOL the Garden Show. What's up, hi, guys.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
I'm planted some peas, pull motes, bats and uh and
cucumbers up. I'm planting some peas. I plink about playing
of them too thick, but that's that.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
I always wondering if there's anything I could do to them.
They're real thick right now, because I wonder I could
do anything to the peas, any kind of supplement I
could put in the soul to make them bloom. But
they're not blooming right now.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So you did you did like English peas, or you
did like the summer piece like black eyed peas and Mississippi.
Speaker 8 (40:36):
The I don't know. I'm really not sure what I play.
They're a little small piece, a little small red piece.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Okay, so some of the summer pieces. Yeah yeah, yeah, no,
uh no, patience, just leave the alone. Yeah yeah, don't put,
don't put fertilized. Yeah, no, no fertilizer, Claud, Yeah, uh,
too much fertile too Uh. Those peas should be pulling
nitrogen from the air on their own, and then over
(41:02):
fertilization will cause excessive growth and low blooming and low yields.
So uh nope, patients, leave them alone.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, next time, if you plant their two tooth thick,
take a pair of scissors, go out there and just
snip them off at the ground level. Yep. Yeah. You just.
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Looks like a jungle in there right now.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I'll leave them alone now. Yeah, okay, all right, thanks,
I've had okay, takes care. So we've got a little
less than two minutes. So and I just kind of
mentioned you were talking about the uh the text we
all got about the pansies. It's too early for pansies, guys.
We in general I would tell you never plant pansies
(41:42):
before October first, But in truth, I would not even
plan on October first. Usually I would go into October
to where it's a little more regular cooling to complete October, yeah,
with a chance for the soil temperatures to cool down,
because high soil temperatures for pansies is not good. There
(42:02):
are pathogens which are active in the warmer temperatures that
will negatively affect the pansies. So there are other things
you can plant early though. You could plant petunias early.
You could do snap dragons, so you could do these pansies.
We want to wait till almost now. That's like the
(42:23):
last bitting plant.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
One.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, great plant, but you have to exercise some patience
on those two. The ollers are outstanding. They are extremely strong.
I tell people they shouldn't have named them pansies because
they're strong, you know, one of the best things for
the time. Guys. I hope y'all get out, enjoy yourself,
go explore, go look in your yard, see if there's
things you need to think about before a good planting
(42:46):
season comes in. Zaye, thanks for being here, Jeremy, thanks
for that, bat Rouge, have a great day, and don't
forget visit the iHeartRadio WJBO Lawn and Garden Show, Apple
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