July 29, 2023 • 45 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, local experts Zane Mercer and Dr. Allan Owings are back in the saddle to talk about the never-ending heat, the Louisiana Super Plant program, and also your questions on fertilizing shrubs and annuals, the details behind earthworm castings, and starting a compost/mulch pile!
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Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe WUGBO Lanning Garden Show, brought to
you by Clex Nursery. If youhave a question about seasonal planting, luning
garden concerns, or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WUGBO. That's
four ninety nine ninety five two six, Good Saturday morning, baton rouge.
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How's it going. My name's ZaaneMercer. Joined here with doctor Allen Owens
on the w GBO one and GardenShow and join us. Not too hot
Saturday so far upper seventies, upperseventies and at least we got below eighty.
Yeah, and so a good one. I walked outside this morning.
It wasn't too bad. But youknow, we're here again on Saturday morning.
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Oh and we I guess gonna talkabout the same kind of thing.
We see no change in weather patterns, and you know this is the time
of year people really don't have asmuch gardening questions. I say, doing
March, Schabel, May, September, October, November. But you know
we're we're in Louisiana. We cangarden every single day of the year.
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Yeah, most of the time it'sjust pulling weeds, this time of here.
Yes, yes, our our weedsare very um prolific. Somebody said
yesterday there they don't need to mowtheir lawn, but they sure see their
weeds in their lawn right now becausethey're doing well. Oh yeah, I
mean my beha grab. I'll getthis one little patch of beha that it
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just has a little bit of heightto it. Yes, yeah, it's
the only section I have to cut. Yeah. So yeah, So the
let me know, the seven tenday forecasts looks like more of the same.
And actually next the next five orsix days, it's supposed to be
some of our hottest weather of thesummer so far. I think we've already
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beat a record. Well I'm prettysure I can't keep trik anymore. Okay,
so one of our local TV stationsthey have us out one hundred today,
Okay, one O one one hundredtomorrow, then one O one one
one, one hundred and one hundred. That makes you feel good. Now,
the real feel heat in tax isgonna be a little cooler. It's
gonna be like one oh eight insteadof one twelve to one fourteen, So
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that that may be a little bitencouraging, you know it gives you some
micro second of hope. You know, it's just been unbearable. Yes,
uh, you know people that arehaving to work outside, it's uh,
it's certainly difficult. I don't knowhow the roofers in the landscape crews or
are working. They're full days quota, you know, I mean they start
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at six in the morning. Yeah, got start five thirty six and go
as long as you can. Ohyeah no, so uh, you know,
we're gonna obviously talk about watering.You know, in hell, there's
improper watering and proper watering, right, so, um, we've been talking
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about back the last several episodes.But we just need to keep on preaching
that you need to irrigate well,and you need to irrigate, irrigate with
enough water that you're getting you know, moisture down below the malsh, getting
the water to the roots. Don'tjust be uh putting water over the foliage
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of your plants. That's not reallydoing anything, you know, white trowalting.
I'm seeing more azalias and woody ornamentof shrub showing drought stress now than
I did two weeks ago. Imean, my Japanese magnolias in the front
yard yes, those are just kindof crisping up a little bit. And
I mean I just actually a buddyof mine asked me about a one in
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a landscape that he had put themicro irrigation in, Yes, but he
didn't install the plant right, AndI'm just, yeah, it's not enough
water, you know. And Imean, now that said, they usually
get a little crispy, exactly,but shouldn't just have sunburn exactly, you
know, this time of year exactlyexactly. So you know, azelias are
showing stress and they're shallow rooted,so you know a lot of times,
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uh, they're going to dry out, of course faster. I'm seeing folks
complaining about their Japanese maples, especiallyyoung Japanese maples, you know, the
owner Japanese maples and some of thoseplants. That we can do good with
them here, but we also needto plan them in the right location,
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plan them, you know, wherethere's a little bit of microclimate afternoon shade
on them. And we can't justgo out there in the front yard and
nig a hole and planet, youknow. So and that seems to be
the common method these days. Yeah, otherwise they just perpetually look sad exactly
exactly. We have like some twentytwenty five year old Japanese maples at our
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office at Bracy's Nursery, and theythey just go and go and go.
You know. Every year they havea little bit of you know, leaf
scorch of the tips and may geta two to four inches of die back
on the terminal growth, but otherwisethey're fine. So once you get them
established, that's that's the main key. That's like. So I have three
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along my driveway and different varieties.Like my my coral bark for some reason,
grew like a foot this year.I love coral bark. That's a
good plant. They seem to alwaysdo better than some of the other ones.
Yeah, and I found that thegrafted ones that we sell just seemed
to weigh like really outperform non graftedexactly right, just right, very hardy
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plant. And people want a redfoliage um Japanese maples, but the grain
fold wage are darned good and they'rea little bit less susceptible to the leaf
scorch, and so the problem theyjust seem to get h they grow more,
just seemed to be a more robustplant exac exactly, you know,
yeah. Now my blood good thatI dug up from a yard yes years
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ago. Yes, and I meanshe's probably ten foot tall. Right.
That one gets leaf burn, oh, yes, all the time. And
it's a it's a spot. Iget a little pretty protection. But it's
like up against the drive, right. You know, there's a lot of
factors. Yes, and then there'sthe fact that it's you know, one
hundred and ten degrees exactly exactly.Yeah. So the so the heapnome that's
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been over Texas in Oklahoma, it'smoved to the Mississippi Valley for the next
five to six days. So ushere in Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas,
Tennessee, Alabama, we're going tobe at the brunt of the hot weather
this weekend. And uh, youknow weather dot Com, accu weather,
they kind of vary on what theweather's looking like. Weather dot Com says
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what says, we may get backto the low nineties by you know,
early like Monday, the seventh ofAugust, so a week from Monday.
And accu weather, who usually ison the high end of what the temperature
is going to be, you know, they kind of over exaggerate the high
temperatures they say, we're not goingto get back to ninety one or ninety
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two till Sunday, August of twelfth. So you just need to hang on
and we need to pray all.We need to be seriously hoping that September
and October are not hot and drylike they've been the last few years.
But I don't. I'm very concernedabout our plants. I'm very concerned about
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you know, you're a cool seasonvegetables that we normally plant in September October.
But Drew's our co worker, wassaying a few weeks ago that,
you know, people maybe need toplant the cool season vegetables in season a
couple weeks later than we normally orhave been doing it lately, you know.
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So yeah, I mean it's Imean, it's just it's so hot.
Yes, I mean at the nursery, we're pulling in some peppers,
some tomatoes. They're just kind ofpopping up on a feelabuild exactly. But
I'll just be real leary about justputting that in a bed exactly. Yeah,
I mean, the beds probably dry. You need to make sure your
bed has adequate moisture in it,and need to find an a week where
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the temperature is more bearable to plantsome of our our vegetables and our our
end of the warm season bedding plantslike sunflowers and Zenia's and and uh,
you know, you could still beplanting some ornamental peppers will be in in
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about four weeks. They're nice forfall, foolish color. But you know,
uh, wash the weather and makesure your bed's well prepared, and
you're taking care of the water requirements. And if anyone listening needs to uh
reach us to ask us about howto water or you know, out stress
any of the usual stuff that youknow we're dealing with right now, you
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could reach us at four nine ninew GBO. That's four nine nine five
two six, you know. Andyou're talking about the just kind of postponing
until we get a little cooler weather. Yeah, and I mean you could
start your seeds and stuff and trees. Yes, you know, we just
need to keep that stuff kind ofprotected exactly. You know, Clake's nar
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share. We have a good supplyof a flower seed and vegetable seed and
h and uh vegetable and flower seedprices have gone up considerably last three to
four years, and uh Unfortunately,they're going to be going up a little
bit more, but we have availability. We still miss out on some key
items just because so they're just notavailable due to the national demand for seed.
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I mean, that's wild. Imean I was working at the Denham
store for several days to going throughthe I did a seed order, okay,
and I mean Johnny was able tofill most of the stuff, right,
But then, I mean it waskind of surprising to see I mean
sixty seven shelves yes of stuff thatwe're just out for the season. Yes,
right, right right. So,um, so one of my friends
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and falls he's saving a lot ofthis. He's saving tomate a seed and
saving seed from some of its crops, so you'll have seed for next spring.
And that's that's a good idea.You can you can harvest your seed
from some of your blooming flowers andperennials and annual bedding plants. And I
have marginal to moderate success doing that, you know. Yeah, I mean
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that's a neat little let's a neatlittle project to do just by itself.
You know, it's, hey,let's just save a couple of seeds,
you know, and then we'll don'twe relate this variety exactly, you know,
save you a buck, a buckeighty nine or whatever or whatever.
But you know, it's more ofthe experience. Yes, And it seems
like there's fewer seeds perceive packets thesedays too. You looked at the cucumber
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packets. You get like ten seats, yes, now that each one comes
up? Yes, right? Good? You germination percentage on cucumbers if darn
good? Yeah, you know,but it looks like we got Dave on
the phone. Okay, we goand take Dave real quick. How you
doing, Dave? We're doing good. Hey, just look up on the
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lay Saturday morning. We were wonderingabout whether we should, with respect to
our shrubs and annuals, go aheadand put a little fertilizer down. We've
been watering, you know, everycouple of days to make sure they had
you know, liquid, but they'renot. Are they getting any food?
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Not much rain? So and ifwe should fertilize, what should we use
some type of slow release or what? Yeah, usually like a slow release,
I mean your annuals and stuff.I'm still putting out like a used
Fisher mulsion fertilizer whole bunch. SoI just use that just whenever a hand
water. Yeah, well I dothat like once a week kind of thing.
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Yea, yeah, well, Iwas wondering about the fertilizer if I
don't, you know, say somedays I missed the watering. I guess
as long as it's slow release isnot going to burn anything. It shouldn't.
But we just need to make surewe water in really well. Right,
you won't be getting any burning umon most of the fertilizers that are
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available as long as the soil moistureis adequate. Yeah, and I like
to I like to use fertil oneGardener special. We have fertilan bedding plant
food for your flowers. Um.Those products work well, and I maybe
do like half a rate this timeof year as opposed to a full rate
in early spring. And it givesyour recommendations on the on the bag on
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that Yeah, is that like aten ten ten or not? Really?
It depends on what what back?Yeah, there's a fifteen nine eleven or
something like that. But but anyway, it gives you. It gives you
your good ratio of nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium. But you find fertilm products
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release right right, All those fertileloam and high yield products you see at
your independent garden centers like Clegs.You don't find them out your mass merchandise
or garden centers. Oh you won't. So you got to go to one
of the specialty stores. That's well, they'll they'll carry the fertiloom. Fertilom
is geared more for you know,not your buckstores. But you're you know,
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friendly neighborhoods garden center. Yeah,yeah, exactly. Okay, I'll
have a good day and thanks verymuch, Yeah sir. Yeah, So
a lot of times in our shrubs, in our landscapes, you know,
we recommend the the spring fertilization,depending on what shrub it is, whether
it's before they flower or after theybloom and then and you know, normally
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that's going to be adequate. Insome situation, you may want to put
a little bit of fertilized route latelate summer, early fall, but you
got to watch the amount and youdon't want to be promoting a whole lot
of new growth this time of year. Oh yeah, no, man,
I had one of my employees fertilizingthe flower beds at Seeking Yes, and
I gave her a big bag ofeight twenty four twenty four and I was
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like, you have added yes,and I was like, just just go
late. Yes, yes, butthe big thing, I mean, we
just have to make sure that soil'smore stressed exactly exactly if it if it's
if the plant's end dropped stress right, you know it's not going to take
up those nutrients as well, andthen we could cause some damages as well.
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And you know, whether you're usingeight twenty four twenty four triple thirteen
or one of the two to threemonths slow release, you don't want to
be dumping the fertilizer or right nextto the plant. You want to be
kind of putting the fertilizer route wherethe edge of the a canopy is or
broadcast uniformly over the whole bed.Yeah, and the broadcasting that's typically what
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I usually recommend. I love doingthat. Yeah, A little hand spreader
makes life easy, Ryan. Youjust make sure to use a leaf blower
after, yes, yes, yeah, I never forget I had fertilized.
This is when I was fresh freshand I had fertilized some shrubs and did
not use a leaf blower after.So then it rained and then all of
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a sudden, the leaves got burntbecause fertilizer exactly, exactly exactly, trying
to direct that fertilizer application to theto the malch area. Just talking about
you know, fertilizer dry grass,you know, and we hadn't got to
sports hit Yeah, hodgepoles of otherweather issues and use those Zane. Zane
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was saying that he, uh,he saw a big twenty foot and limb
off a tree that fell near hishome in the last few days. And
you know, you when you havethe cold weather like we've had, you
have in Baton rouge basically a maturetree canopy, okay, and then you
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have drought stress on trees, youhave a weakened wood. So and tree
damage sometimes do to weather may notshow up for a year or two.
Or you know, in a treethat's not properly pruned has structural weaknesses to
it. So you know, you'realways a prone to have a tree limb
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come down, you know, dependingon what the health status of the tree
is. It's always a good timeright before hurricane season to get your problematic
trees looked out to see if theyneed any work done. And yeah,
I got one. I don't wantto. I don't want to go get
a quick I know. Yeah,and I means, you know, some
of the tree removal situations in ametropolitan area are hard. And when you've
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got to get to the backyard totake a big water rope or something like
that. Man, well, Ihave a what I think is a pecan.
It's hard to see the actual follyas sure, you know, and
uh, because there's not much it'sall sucker growth coming out. Yes,
but it's just I mean, they'regonna have to take the I know,
the logistics, they're gonna have totake two cranes into my backyard. Yes,
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exactly, I'm backyard ain't that big. So maybe need to consider moving,
you know. I thought about thatwhen I found torpedo grass in the
backyard. Oh yes, yes,but no. Great thing about this heat
stress, though, is the torpedograss ain't growing. Well that's good news,
right, I don't have to cutthat section. So but no,
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you know, in heat or whatwas it cult damage? Yes, that
is the hardest thing to explain toa customer. Ideal, Oh it idious?
I mean, I mean I hadthe other day a gentleman came in
with a Confederate route, like,well he didn't have picture ample. Yes,
so it said half of his Confederateroses day out and then he was
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seeing the ants ate the bark onthe bottom okay at the base, yes,
And I'm like, whoa, antsdon't do that, right, right
right? I mean I guess carpenterants could, but yeah, they're not
gonna do no. Right. That'sgot to be cold damage, and no
doubt about it. And it's realhard to explain that because cold damage that
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occurred months ago exactly yea damage.Cold damage doesn't immediately show up. It
takes a good while. It couldtake four or five months, you know.
Oh the American beauty barriers. Andthen went in my garbage game.
You know, we're in testament tothat, you know where you're like,
you don't even see the bark splithalf the time because it's so slow to
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the ground exactly, yes, yes, so um yeah, a lot of
a lot of issues in the landscape, and the you know, the best
thing you can do is just monitorthose problems and uh and try to get
the dead wood would cut out andif it's affecting the whole plant, you
may need to do some rejuvenation typepruning, or you know, you may
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need to make a decision to removea plant and uh and start over with
another, you know, and it'snot that's not super big deal. You
get to watch you grow again,yes, right, right, that's honestly,
but usually the cool part ring.So now I planted some vanilla strawberry
hydranges, Okay, not ideal time, put them in yesterday, early yesterday
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or last week, and you know, just always got a monitor, yes,
yes, especially with this heat andthe fact that all the trees and
stuff just soak up so much waterit does. Right now, your trees
are taking if you have trees onyour on your property, you know,
they're taking most of the moisturing thatmaybe would normally be going to your shrubs.
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They're they're competing for that soil moisture. Yeah, I mean I have
a creep myrtle with some like Mexicansiege and lantana and stuff that's wrapped around
it. Not swear. I haveto put that soaker hose on them for
like an hour, yes, waittill it evaporates, and then I have
to come back in another hour,right and put it on again. Right,
just because I mean the ground getsso compacted right with the trees,
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right, So, but I meanit's it's kind of neat though, because
I watch my herber vide fern thatare kind of hidden there. Yeah,
go from crisp to hydrated. Yes, you know, it's kind of neat.
So you were saying you've got someevents going on coming up? Do
we have some events going on?Well, I will be doing some traveling.
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It's kind of industry meetings, industry, right. So I'm going to
Texas to the Nursery Landscape Expo inSan Antonio. U lie the Texas whole
celling nurseries exhibit their landscapers come tosee what they have. And and I
also from Bracy's Nursery and a meatin addition to Clegg's Nursery. So we
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we have a boot there in aweek and we ship and we ship plants
to a Texas in addition to Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia.
So you know it's uh, youknow, m Louisiana. When you
get to Texas, the Louisiana growingconditions are most like northeast Texas. And
then when you get to Dallas,San Antonio you know, our plant,
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our plant Pallette, our plant Pallettin South Louisiana is different than when you
get over to Austin and San Antonioand you see more cactus and succulents over
there, and you know, azeajust don't do good. Your acid loving
shrubs don't do well. Have realpretty Texas each exactly Texas age everywhere I
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wish, I wish. Yeah,we're well here. You know, it
just doesn't get it doesn't turn intoa big giant mass exast silver. Yes,
yes, whereas you go there andits absolutely orgeous over there. Real
question is how I don't know howthey keep the stuff watered out. I
know, it's just it's just itcan be brutal out there. We have
family that lives out in Austin andstuff, and it's just brutal, brutal,
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brutal. Yeah. Yeah, I'mnot looking forward to the reflective heat
of downtown San Antonio concrete. Canyou get yourself one of those air conditioned
necklaces as one of those little missfans on your cap or something exactly exactly?
So, so you know, beforewe started, you were you had
mentioned something about you've got some superwe've got some superplants coming on. Yeah,
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so I just thought we would maybetalk about Louisiana superplant so a little
bit and get away from the weatherdiscussion. Yeah. Sure, So I
think a lot about I know aboutLouisiana all issue accent of Louisiana superplants.
But those are the you know,three or four or five plants every year
that the l issue accent or recommendsfor our landscapes. And they're mostly ornamental
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plants, shrubs, trees, flowers, running old annuals and uh. And
this year, the Peggy Martin roseis Louisiana superplant. And I think most
of us know Peggy Martin. Andman, there's been a lot of those
roses planted in the last five yearsor safe. I have never seen so
much of one particular rose go outof the store exactly and exactly. And
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you know, um, Peggy Martinis mainly a once bloomer in the springtime,
and it's a rambler or a climbingrose, however you want to classify
it. I like that rambler.Yeah, rambler, And you're Peggy Martin's
gonna bloom batter if you grow ithorizontally. Then if if you grow it
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vertically. I just I remember mygrandfather, we had a fence line,
yes, like four foot pick offense, Yes, and they had one growing
on it. Yeah. And Imean that that left side of the house.
I mean it was in bloom.Yes. You I mean you had
to turn your head driving down theroute. Yeah. Train your train your
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rambler roses to run along the topof a fence. You will get incredible
bloom out of them. Yeah.I mean you don't really have to replace
the fence that much more often,you know, because it's not like,
you know, it doesn't have thatmuch weight to it. You know,
it's not like someone like putting Confederatejasmine on. Yeah. Yeah, Peggy
Martin is generally foreign less. Itdoes have a few prickles, nice pink
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blooms. You don't generally get fallblooming, but when the plants get older,
and when you get good growing conditionsof the fall, you can get
some secondary bloom in the fall ofthe year. Awesome, We need a
new topic. Do we have anycallers? No callers, no calls,
but maybe someone forgot how to call. Okay four nine nine w GPO four
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to nine nine. So we weretalking about Peggy Martin Rose. We were
so Peggy. Martin Rose is asuperplant this year. And the Blue Days
mainly the Blue my Mind variety ofBlue Days really really fantastic plant. I
just like how compact that variety is. Yes, Yeah, the regular of
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all of this. Yes, Plusit's hard, Yes, it's just kind
of it tries, it tries,I mean, and it blooms and it
does, but it doesn't put theshow then on Blue Days. Blue Days
is more compact. Um. Uh, definitely a better bloomer. Yeah.
And they've got some other varieties thatthere's beach Bums, a couple of others,
but they're on. Yes, I'mkind of confused by the there's the
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blew my mind. Yes, andit's the blew my mind XL. I
know, and I'm I figured out. I have a hard time telling of
the difference. Yeah, I don'tknow if the xcel the flowers are supposed
to be bigger or the plants supposedto be bigger. I can't I don't
understand. But anyway, blew mymind or blew my mind next L.
Yeah, but they're both really niceand uh and usually they're gonna, usually
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they're gonna usually they're gonna be perennial. I don't know if they were perennial
the last couple of winters, butnormally their perennial. I used to just
use it as a good annual exactlyand exactly if you if you weren't afraid
of having a little annual budget,right right right. And now that said,
you always had to dig them up. When you dug them up,
you always had to replace the soilbecause it takes the soil with right right,
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you know. But I mean betweenthat and the varieties of lantana,
they're coming out, you know,nice lantana improvements. Um, all the
vegetatively propagated sunflowers. Now, sothe sunfinities and the sun credibles, the
sun credibles or superplants also and uh, but they're not from seed there you
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take, you do cuttings on them, so you can't find sunfinity seed or
some incredible yellow seed or some incrediblesaturn seed their ownly available by asexual propagation.
Uh, So they don't produce seedin the landscape. The flowers just
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keep on producing. So your normalvariety of sunflower sets a flower head and
that flower head set seed. Butthese vegetatively propagated, a sexually propagated sunflowers
just keep on blooming spring through fall. And you know they're two two and
a half feet tall. And oneof my friends in New Orleans at the
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country club where he's the horticulture manager, he plants those like one hundred at
a time. They are absolutely incredible. The bees are all over him,
you know, some butterfly activity,NonStop shape. Yeah. Now that's that's
one plant. I wish I gota little bit more sun in my house,
right right, I mean it's ashow stopper. Of course. On
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one of my favorite Facebook gardening pagesthe other day, somebody wanted to pollinate
or plants for their shade and somebodysuggested sunflowers, sunflowers or sun flowers they
need us. Well, look,can I just say, I mean it's
a little you know, I don'twant to it's not false advertisement, but
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like you know, your sun patients, yes, yes, okay, they
have sun in the name. Butif you don't plant those early in the
year, that's right, and havea sprinkler system, they will not take
the sun. It's all about plantingtime. And and those were developed you
know in California or in Chicago andsun. There is not sun in Baton
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Rouge exactly. So anyway, sometimesdown here on the Gulf Coast we're neglected
in the new plant consideration. Sometimeswe need our own plant breeding down here.
Well, I mean they've got aproven winners I think at a Michigan
as ever. Yes, right,you know every I mean they're all based
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elsewhere. Yes, not in theSouth. Yes, most of the betting
plant development large growing facilities in theUnited States or California and Michigan. And
then you got growing operations in Colorado. Okay, it must be nice.
It's cool out that west. I'lltell you what it's I bet it's so
comfortable out there right now, youknow, you shoot, they might be
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pulling weeds right now, I know, man, Man and then are the
last superplan for this year as theCinnamon Girl distillium. You know, um,
a lot of home gardeners still don'tknow about distill them, but certainly
the landscapers are using a lot ofdistill them. I mean that's so if
you put if you put your youknow, like your clearra, you're Indian
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hawthorn, right, you know,and you're distilling them all in the same
group. That's the ones that theydon't really flower like here, I guess
you're Indian hawthorns have some flowers,right, but it's not gonna be noted.
It's more for the foliage the shrubitself, right, right. But
the cinnamon like cinnamon girl are justmost distillingum in general just outperform every I
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mean, they they really do.I have I hardly ever have somebody say
they've had problems with costillium. Theydon't have insect issues. They do make
a small red flower in February downon the stem within the cannaby of the
plant, but most of the timeyou don't notice. Yeah, And I
find it's kind of like the likeyour flax of leaf flower, yes,
where it spends all this time makingthese flowers and then they are gone and
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probably but four hours and you're notreally look to see them too. Yeah,
exactly so. But all the distilliumcinnamon girls a most sold now bench
as jade is popular swing low coppertone. I would think the only complaint
I ever have about them is andthis is mainly mainly for the smaller leaf
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ones. Yes, they are slowto bounce back from pruning in the beginning
of the exactly exactly, you know, just very slow, right, whereas
like your copper tone distillium, right, you know that unless you're intermediate,
that's like a four footer. Yeah, and then linebacker that's just always fast.
Linebacker is a good plant. Linebackersthe biggest growing of the of the
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distilliums that we sell around the BatonRouge area. Really great for a screen.
If you're looking for something besides clearor sweet by burn or Oakley,
go go with the linebacker distillium.I mean they are they're fabulous, They
grow quickly, they take a trim, you can shape them. I've got
some gorgeous fifteen gallon gloopers. Theyweren't intended to be gloop yeah. Okay,
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you know it just came smaller thanwhat I requested, right, But
I mean you can shape them howeveryou want. They're growing them in single
trunk patio trees. I have afew of those at seeking and just overall
and neat plant. I like howit's each stem is kind of layered,
yes, yes, and it's justI mean it's a cool little evergreen.
Yeah, good layered canopy. Thenew growth as copper maroon, bronze and
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doing a little bit of tip pruneand a couple of times during the year,
don't do major prune. He's justdo a little bit of tip pruning
to help the lateral branching and keepthem a little bit smaller. Ye,
And I mean a couple of yearsago it was just vintage gade we could
get exactly, you know. AndI don't know, I mean, I
don't like that one as much.I don't either. I'm really toward all
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these other ones now. Ventage jadeis probably the the It's a very strong,
horizontal h and I like how thebranching weeps. Yes, you know
once it gets a lottle weight,and that's really it's a neat looking plant.
Yeah. Yeah. But but ifyou drive around Baton Rouge and a
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lot of the McDonald's have distilliums planted, and I've seen some of some of
the banks, and so anyway,if you're a home garden route there and
you're looking for a shrub that's easycare replace your Dwarfield ponds and Indian Hawthorne
check out distilliums and Cleggs carries themwhenever, whenever they're commercially available. I
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will always have distill. Once ina while, the wholesale growers run out
and you have to wait a coupleof weeks. But the stealums have become
the top selling newer shrub the lastfive to ten years in the southeastern United
States. And I mean funny itcame in purple exactly. I would go
ahead and replace Lourer pedalums with it. Yes, yes, so, but
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it's just been overall real impressive.Yes, you know, you know you're
talking about McDonald's. I saw someroses blush blueberries, yes, and we
had just got some in over atseaging finally, right. And unfortunately I
built my flower bed when we didn'thave them, yes, so I didn't
get to put them in right,right, But no, I just I'm
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always tickled when I drive by McDonald'sand I see like a little niche plant
like that you don't see typically,right, right. So you know,
it's great that we have a fewcompanies in Baton Rouge that they're willing to
let the landscapers that take care oftheir business trying new plants and try unique
plants. That's what people want tosee, Yeah, they want to see
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some kind of oh what is that? Yes, yes, shoot the Gordonia.
Yes, I mean I've had somany customers. I was like,
what is that? Is that amagnolia? It's like, no, not
a magnolia. And the twenty fivethirty year old Chinese French trees or that
are planting around Baton roagement now,but they bloom. You know, everybody's
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always calling about what those are.I think most people know what Vitex this
now, but people call about theblue flowers on Vitex when they call him,
what are those? What are those? All? Right, Well,
it looks like we had a callerquestion, but yeah, it was a
question about They didn't want to goon air, but they did want to
kind of get y'all's thoughts on theEarthworm Castings product that's out there, kind
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of like it's effectiveness, you knowhow it's how you use it, and
just questions and thoughts about the product. Yeah. No, so earthworm Castings
great product. I kind of lumpit in with all the so there's like
your mushroom compost, it's all yoursoil amendments, all right, and so
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it's just it's a great product toput in. I mean I have a
friend of mine works for contractor company, and every single flower bed they build
go it's mushroom compost, earthworm castings, and they're they're big on the organic
side, you know. And it'sI mean, can't get more organic than
that, you know. And it'sjust you want to amend that soil to
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kind of set it up for successten years from now, you know.
So that's like the biggest thing Ifound with it. It's like, I
mean, it helps kind of holdwater a little bit better, right,
you know. And I mean alsothere's the fact that has the big no
chemicals on the side exactly. Yeah. Earthworm castings are nice and all the
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different compost and all those products giveyou a little nutritional boost and they and
they give you that organic matter ofrefreshment to your to your landscape bed.
Yep. You know, if youhave a raised bed and you have like
one of our raised bed souls inthere, you know, every time you
replant your annuals put those worm castingsin, put some black cowie in,
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put some mushroom compost in. Youknow. Yeah, No, I know.
There's a little elderly lady that comesto visit me periodically and every single
time she plants petunias. Yes,pansies or collediums. Okay, every single
time it's bone meal, blood mealand worm casting, you know. And
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she's like, it's the it's thesweet spot. You know. I'm never
changing She's been doing it for years. Yes, you know, and I
get it. Once you find therecipe, just keep going with it.
Don't don't be changing things up exactly. Lee, how's it going today?
Hello? Good morning? Good?You're doing all right? Yeah? No,
doing good? Of question? Um, I want to start a multi
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pile mult thing. Um, whatdo you suggest? Well, first off,
we're gonna select the spot, allright, and so and when you
say mult you you just want tomake like a compost bin. Yeah,
talking about okay, so would IWell we did it growing up. I
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wanted to say I have wet spotsthat I have a drive spot. Of
course everything drives can be now.Yeah, but I have a big planter
that we did for my daughter inthe back of the yard, and I
want to put it near that andthe back of it kind gets wet,
so maybe on the sides. Butyeah, what what you got for me?
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That would be fine? If itgets wet, all right, that'll
just help with uh, like decomposition, all right, but just anywhere that's
out the way, all right.And we built it like a little It
was like a I took some palletsand then a chain link fence and then
just made like a little box essentially, all right. And so and then
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we just fill that up periodically likeleaf matter. It goes in there,
any kind of organic stuff like abanana, peals, anything like that.
If you have a way to collectyour grass, grass clippings or leaves or
real small sticks, that can allgo into a pile that you're going to
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start composting. Yeah. The biggestthing with that is we want to make
sure we turn it up every sooften, all right, Right, so
pitchwork works fine, all right,or or if you like my folks,
they got chickens. The chickens dothe work for you. Yeah, we
used to, but not anymore.Yeah, big thing is just make sure
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we turn it up pretty regularly.Yeah. And uh, like we had
so we had two bins and oneof them was like the super age stuff,
and then the other one was morefresher, like your grass clippings and
stuff, because you really want tolet that stuff kind of sit and break
down real real well, before wetry and add that to any kind of
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sort. Oh, I have anotherquestion about that. I have a friend
who has horses. Yeah, andmanure is abound. Oh yeah, that
would be good to sew in theretoo, Yeah, of course, yeah,
absolutely, yeah, if they wantto give you some free manure,
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oh definitely. Now my sister getshas rabbits, she does the exact same
thing. It just goes in thecompass bile. So all right, all
right, well, thank you,you're welcome. Have a good ga.
Yeah, you know, I reallylike that makes me want to build another
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compost pilot. Yes, yes,but I have a one year old and
a four year old and I'm prettysure they'll go swimming in there. Yeah.
I haven't been composting or doing acompost pile in a good while.
But uh yeah, great way totake all your yard debris, your waste
materials. And uh, we onlymake something that's very useful in the in
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the landscape, in the garden,and I mean even even shrub flower beds.
And yes, yes, all thatthat soil dissipates over time. It
does, and so you can justtyped us with your company, right right,
So, but it looks like wegot one more collar good. All
right, Dana, how are youdoing today? I'm good? How are
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you good? That's what we gotgoing on. We planted some wintergreen box
shrubs and they are turning yellow,so we can't be you're already for watering
them too much or possibly not enough. All right? So the first question
how much and how often do wewater? We water every afternoon on a
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sprinkler system for five to seven minutes, and it's a gallon per minute.
Hmm. And these were recently plantedthis spring, yes, okay, all
right. And when you say yellow, is it just like how do I
put this a golden roof? Yellow? Or does it or does it turn
yellow and then into a brown?They turn yellow and into a brown?
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Okay. And as the whole plantor is just like a branch or two,
it's a branch or two and thenit travels to the whole plant.
Yeah, so we might be lookingat some dieback. Is the can you
check the soil to see if it'sstaying wet? It just doesn't seem like
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seven minutes is going to put onenough water though, you know. Okay,
So if we if we like pulla plane up and it's still dry,
we're not watering it enough. Yeah, do you have mulch around the
plants? We do, Yeah,I would just check under the mulch layer
and try to see if you cancheck on the soil moisture down underneath the
mulch and see what that looks like. But it's an overhead irrigation, I
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don't think you may be getting enoughmoisture to the soil. But I'm also
concerned, like what Zane just said, that he may have some stem die
back going on, which could bea disease issue. And um, it's
just hard to give you a definiteanswer, but but that's what we're thinking
about. Yeah, okay, andwhat we're talking about. We usually see
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that uh kind of earlier in thespring when it's uh we kind of get
rainfall every other day. That's reallywhen you see it where it's the ground
just states saturated. So but Iwould definitely start with that checking underneath the
mulch, like on a have thicka layer multi half. But it's not
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it's sick at all, Okay,all right, So I would just check
and see it check there first,right, okay, and kind of take
it from there. All right,all right, great, thank you so
much. You're welcome. And youknow, right now, this time of
year, the gardens lentners like clegs, we're not as fully staffed as we're
on the fall. But you know, feel free to bring a sample into
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the gardens centers or take a picture, but but actual physical samples even better.
Yeah, and you know, comein Monday through Thursday when we're not
as busy, and U and oneof us will do the best we can
to help you diagnosed problems. Yeah. I mean that's one thing we're for
the most part, really good aboutis we always have somebody on staff.
Yes, every day. Yes,Second, you know, at least point
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us in the right direction, rightright, So all right, so we
got just a couple of minutes left, just a couple of minutes of sports
though. Right, Oh well,I really want to do a sports talk
show, I really do. Iwant to go. I want to go
through the LSU football schedule. Look, you could always have a career change.
Let's see what time is it.Let's see it's thirty six days and
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nine hours and three minutes still kickoff? Oh nice man, you were
really a fan. Well we maybe kicking off at six ten instead of
six o'clock. You know how,you know you might need to start hanging
out with my wife. I reallylike to get it down in minutes and
seconds. You know, cannot alwaysbe accurate, but you know, well
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you're gonna always count down in yourgarden too, when you're going to harvest
your tomatoes, or when you're gonnaplant this, or when you're gonna put
your first pumpkins out on your frontporch. You know, is it gonna
be Labor Day weekend or are yougonna wait a little after Labor Day or
are you gonna be waiting in theparking lot at Clegg's nurshould we when the
first eighteen wheeler comes in exactly?I know Zaine will load you up one
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of those hundred pound pumpkins, noproblems, you know it. You know,
it falls my favorite time of theyear, and hopefully we'll have a
nice fall and hopefully guess some rainthe next couple of weeks falls for planting.
But we need to have the rightweather to do it. So you've
been listening to w JBO Lawn andGarden Show. Thank you for having us.
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Have a good Saturday,
Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe WUGBO Lanning Garden Show, brought to
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four ninety nine ninety five two six, Good Saturday morning, baton rouge.
(00:25):
How's it going. My name's ZaaneMercer. Joined here with doctor Allen Owens
on the w GBO one and GardenShow and join us. Not too hot
Saturday so far upper seventies, upperseventies and at least we got below eighty.
Yeah, and so a good one. I walked outside this morning.
It wasn't too bad. But youknow, we're here again on Saturday morning.
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Oh and we I guess gonna talkabout the same kind of thing.
We see no change in weather patterns, and you know this is the time
of year people really don't have asmuch gardening questions. I say, doing
March, Schabel, May, September, October, November. But you know
we're we're in Louisiana. We cangarden every single day of the year.
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Yeah, most of the time it'sjust pulling weeds, this time of here.
Yes, yes, our our weedsare very um prolific. Somebody said
yesterday there they don't need to mowtheir lawn, but they sure see their
weeds in their lawn right now becausethey're doing well. Oh yeah, I
mean my beha grab. I'll getthis one little patch of beha that it
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just has a little bit of heightto it. Yes, yeah, it's
the only section I have to cut. Yeah. So yeah, So the
let me know, the seven tenday forecasts looks like more of the same.
And actually next the next five orsix days, it's supposed to be
some of our hottest weather of thesummer so far. I think we've already
(01:51):
beat a record. Well I'm prettysure I can't keep trik anymore. Okay,
so one of our local TV stationsthey have us out one hundred today,
Okay, one O one one hundredtomorrow, then one O one one
one, one hundred and one hundred. That makes you feel good. Now,
the real feel heat in tax isgonna be a little cooler. It's
gonna be like one oh eight insteadof one twelve to one fourteen, So
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that that may be a little bitencouraging, you know it gives you some
micro second of hope. You know, it's just been unbearable. Yes,
uh, you know people that arehaving to work outside, it's uh,
it's certainly difficult. I don't knowhow the roofers in the landscape crews or
are working. They're full days quota, you know, I mean they start
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at six in the morning. Yeah, got start five thirty six and go
as long as you can. Ohyeah no, so uh, you know,
we're gonna obviously talk about watering.You know, in hell, there's
improper watering and proper watering, right, so, um, we've been talking
(02:57):
about back the last several episodes.But we just need to keep on preaching
that you need to irrigate well,and you need to irrigate, irrigate with
enough water that you're getting you know, moisture down below the malsh, getting
the water to the roots. Don'tjust be uh putting water over the foliage
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of your plants. That's not reallydoing anything, you know, white trowalting.
I'm seeing more azalias and woody ornamentof shrub showing drought stress now than
I did two weeks ago. Imean, my Japanese magnolias in the front
yard yes, those are just kindof crisping up a little bit. And
I mean I just actually a buddyof mine asked me about a one in
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a landscape that he had put themicro irrigation in, Yes, but he
didn't install the plant right, AndI'm just, yeah, it's not enough
water, you know. And Imean, now that said, they usually
get a little crispy, exactly,but shouldn't just have sunburn exactly, you
know, this time of year exactlyexactly. So you know, azelias are
showing stress and they're shallow rooted,so you know a lot of times,
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uh, they're going to dry out, of course faster. I'm seeing folks
complaining about their Japanese maples, especiallyyoung Japanese maples, you know, the
owner Japanese maples and some of thoseplants. That we can do good with
them here, but we also needto plan them in the right location,
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plan them, you know, wherethere's a little bit of microclimate afternoon shade
on them. And we can't justgo out there in the front yard and
nig a hole and planet, youknow. So and that seems to be
the common method these days. Yeah, otherwise they just perpetually look sad exactly
exactly. We have like some twentytwenty five year old Japanese maples at our
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office at Bracy's Nursery, and theythey just go and go and go.
You know. Every year they havea little bit of you know, leaf
scorch of the tips and may geta two to four inches of die back
on the terminal growth, but otherwisethey're fine. So once you get them
established, that's that's the main key. That's like. So I have three
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along my driveway and different varieties.Like my my coral bark for some reason,
grew like a foot this year.I love coral bark. That's a
good plant. They seem to alwaysdo better than some of the other ones.
Yeah, and I found that thegrafted ones that we sell just seemed
to weigh like really outperform non graftedexactly right, just right, very hardy
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plant. And people want a redfoliage um Japanese maples, but the grain
fold wage are darned good and they'rea little bit less susceptible to the leaf
scorch, and so the problem theyjust seem to get h they grow more,
just seemed to be a more robustplant exac exactly, you know,
yeah. Now my blood good thatI dug up from a yard yes years
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ago. Yes, and I meanshe's probably ten foot tall. Right.
That one gets leaf burn, oh, yes, all the time. And
it's a it's a spot. Iget a little pretty protection. But it's
like up against the drive, right. You know, there's a lot of
factors. Yes, and then there'sthe fact that it's you know, one
hundred and ten degrees exactly exactly.Yeah. So the so the heapnome that's
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been over Texas in Oklahoma, it'smoved to the Mississippi Valley for the next
five to six days. So ushere in Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas,
Tennessee, Alabama, we're going tobe at the brunt of the hot weather
this weekend. And uh, youknow weather dot Com, accu weather,
they kind of vary on what theweather's looking like. Weather dot Com says
(06:50):
what says, we may get backto the low nineties by you know,
early like Monday, the seventh ofAugust, so a week from Monday.
And accu weather, who usually ison the high end of what the temperature
is going to be, you know, they kind of over exaggerate the high
temperatures they say, we're not goingto get back to ninety one or ninety
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two till Sunday, August of twelfth. So you just need to hang on
and we need to pray all.We need to be seriously hoping that September
and October are not hot and drylike they've been the last few years.
But I don't. I'm very concernedabout our plants. I'm very concerned about
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you know, you're a cool seasonvegetables that we normally plant in September October.
But Drew's our co worker, wassaying a few weeks ago that,
you know, people maybe need toplant the cool season vegetables in season a
couple weeks later than we normally orhave been doing it lately, you know.
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So yeah, I mean it's Imean, it's just it's so hot.
Yes, I mean at the nursery, we're pulling in some peppers,
some tomatoes. They're just kind ofpopping up on a feelabuild exactly. But
I'll just be real leary about justputting that in a bed exactly. Yeah,
I mean, the beds probably dry. You need to make sure your
bed has adequate moisture in it,and need to find an a week where
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the temperature is more bearable to plantsome of our our vegetables and our our
end of the warm season bedding plantslike sunflowers and Zenia's and and uh,
you know, you could still beplanting some ornamental peppers will be in in
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about four weeks. They're nice forfall, foolish color. But you know,
uh, wash the weather and makesure your bed's well prepared, and
you're taking care of the water requirements. And if anyone listening needs to uh
reach us to ask us about howto water or you know, out stress
any of the usual stuff that youknow we're dealing with right now, you
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could reach us at four nine ninew GBO. That's four nine nine five
two six, you know. Andyou're talking about the just kind of postponing
until we get a little cooler weather. Yeah, and I mean you could
start your seeds and stuff and trees. Yes, you know, we just
need to keep that stuff kind ofprotected exactly. You know, Clake's nar
(09:26):
share. We have a good supplyof a flower seed and vegetable seed and
h and uh vegetable and flower seedprices have gone up considerably last three to
four years, and uh Unfortunately,they're going to be going up a little
bit more, but we have availability. We still miss out on some key
items just because so they're just notavailable due to the national demand for seed.
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I mean, that's wild. Imean I was working at the Denham
store for several days to going throughthe I did a seed order, okay,
and I mean Johnny was able tofill most of the stuff, right,
But then, I mean it waskind of surprising to see I mean
sixty seven shelves yes of stuff thatwe're just out for the season. Yes,
right, right right. So,um, so one of my friends
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and falls he's saving a lot ofthis. He's saving tomate a seed and
saving seed from some of its crops, so you'll have seed for next spring.
And that's that's a good idea.You can you can harvest your seed
from some of your blooming flowers andperennials and annual bedding plants. And I
have marginal to moderate success doing that, you know. Yeah, I mean
(10:39):
that's a neat little let's a neatlittle project to do just by itself.
You know, it's, hey,let's just save a couple of seeds,
you know, and then we'll don'twe relate this variety exactly, you know,
save you a buck, a buckeighty nine or whatever or whatever.
But you know, it's more ofthe experience. Yes, And it seems
like there's fewer seeds perceive packets thesedays too. You looked at the cucumber
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packets. You get like ten seats, yes, now that each one comes
up? Yes, right? Good? You germination percentage on cucumbers if darn
good? Yeah, you know,but it looks like we got Dave on
the phone. Okay, we goand take Dave real quick. How you
doing, Dave? We're doing good. Hey, just look up on the
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lay Saturday morning. We were wonderingabout whether we should, with respect to
our shrubs and annuals, go aheadand put a little fertilizer down. We've
been watering, you know, everycouple of days to make sure they had
you know, liquid, but they'renot. Are they getting any food?
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Not much rain? So and ifwe should fertilize, what should we use
some type of slow release or what? Yeah, usually like a slow release,
I mean your annuals and stuff.I'm still putting out like a used
Fisher mulsion fertilizer whole bunch. SoI just use that just whenever a hand
water. Yeah, well I dothat like once a week kind of thing.
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Yea, yeah, well, Iwas wondering about the fertilizer if I
don't, you know, say somedays I missed the watering. I guess
as long as it's slow release isnot going to burn anything. It shouldn't.
But we just need to make surewe water in really well. Right,
you won't be getting any burning umon most of the fertilizers that are
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available as long as the soil moistureis adequate. Yeah, and I like
to I like to use fertil oneGardener special. We have fertilan bedding plant
food for your flowers. Um.Those products work well, and I maybe
do like half a rate this timeof year as opposed to a full rate
in early spring. And it givesyour recommendations on the on the bag on
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that Yeah, is that like aten ten ten or not? Really?
It depends on what what back?Yeah, there's a fifteen nine eleven or
something like that. But but anyway, it gives you. It gives you
your good ratio of nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium. But you find fertilm products
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release right right, All those fertileloam and high yield products you see at
your independent garden centers like Clegs.You don't find them out your mass merchandise
or garden centers. Oh you won't. So you got to go to one
of the specialty stores. That's well, they'll they'll carry the fertiloom. Fertilom
is geared more for you know,not your buckstores. But you're you know,
(13:37):
friendly neighborhoods garden center. Yeah,yeah, exactly. Okay, I'll
have a good day and thanks verymuch, Yeah sir. Yeah, So
a lot of times in our shrubs, in our landscapes, you know,
we recommend the the spring fertilization,depending on what shrub it is, whether
it's before they flower or after theybloom and then and you know, normally
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that's going to be adequate. Insome situation, you may want to put
a little bit of fertilized route latelate summer, early fall, but you
got to watch the amount and youdon't want to be promoting a whole lot
of new growth this time of year. Oh yeah, no, man,
I had one of my employees fertilizingthe flower beds at Seeking Yes, and
I gave her a big bag ofeight twenty four twenty four and I was
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like, you have added yes,and I was like, just just go
late. Yes, yes, butthe big thing, I mean, we
just have to make sure that soil'smore stressed exactly exactly if it if it's
if the plant's end dropped stress right, you know it's not going to take
up those nutrients as well, andthen we could cause some damages as well.
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And you know, whether you're usingeight twenty four twenty four triple thirteen
or one of the two to threemonths slow release, you don't want to
be dumping the fertilizer or right nextto the plant. You want to be
kind of putting the fertilizer route wherethe edge of the a canopy is or
broadcast uniformly over the whole bed.Yeah, and the broadcasting that's typically what
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I usually recommend. I love doingthat. Yeah, A little hand spreader
makes life easy, Ryan. Youjust make sure to use a leaf blower
after, yes, yes, yeah, I never forget I had fertilized.
This is when I was fresh freshand I had fertilized some shrubs and did
not use a leaf blower after.So then it rained and then all of
(15:28):
a sudden, the leaves got burntbecause fertilizer exactly, exactly exactly, trying
to direct that fertilizer application to theto the malch area. Just talking about
you know, fertilizer dry grass,you know, and we hadn't got to
sports hit Yeah, hodgepoles of otherweather issues and use those Zane. Zane
(15:48):
was saying that he, uh,he saw a big twenty foot and limb
off a tree that fell near hishome in the last few days. And
you know, you when you havethe cold weather like we've had, you
have in Baton rouge basically a maturetree canopy, okay, and then you
(16:11):
have drought stress on trees, youhave a weakened wood. So and tree
damage sometimes do to weather may notshow up for a year or two.
Or you know, in a treethat's not properly pruned has structural weaknesses to
it. So you know, you'realways a prone to have a tree limb
(16:34):
come down, you know, dependingon what the health status of the tree
is. It's always a good timeright before hurricane season to get your problematic
trees looked out to see if theyneed any work done. And yeah,
I got one. I don't wantto. I don't want to go get
a quick I know. Yeah,and I means, you know, some
of the tree removal situations in ametropolitan area are hard. And when you've
(16:57):
got to get to the backyard totake a big water rope or something like
that. Man, well, Ihave a what I think is a pecan.
It's hard to see the actual follyas sure, you know, and
uh, because there's not much it'sall sucker growth coming out. Yes,
but it's just I mean, they'regonna have to take the I know,
the logistics, they're gonna have totake two cranes into my backyard. Yes,
(17:18):
exactly, I'm backyard ain't that big. So maybe need to consider moving,
you know. I thought about thatwhen I found torpedo grass in the
backyard. Oh yes, yes,but no. Great thing about this heat
stress, though, is the torpedograss ain't growing. Well that's good news,
right, I don't have to cutthat section. So but no,
(17:42):
you know, in heat or whatwas it cult damage? Yes, that
is the hardest thing to explain toa customer. Ideal, Oh it idious?
I mean, I mean I hadthe other day a gentleman came in
with a Confederate route, like,well he didn't have picture ample. Yes,
so it said half of his Confederateroses day out and then he was
(18:03):
seeing the ants ate the bark onthe bottom okay at the base, yes,
And I'm like, whoa, antsdon't do that, right, right
right? I mean I guess carpenterants could, but yeah, they're not
gonna do no. Right. That'sgot to be cold damage, and no
doubt about it. And it's realhard to explain that because cold damage that
(18:26):
occurred months ago exactly yea damage.Cold damage doesn't immediately show up. It
takes a good while. It couldtake four or five months, you know.
Oh the American beauty barriers. Andthen went in my garbage game.
You know, we're in testament tothat, you know where you're like,
you don't even see the bark splithalf the time because it's so slow to
(18:47):
the ground exactly, yes, yes, so um yeah, a lot of
a lot of issues in the landscape, and the you know, the best
thing you can do is just monitorthose problems and uh and try to get
the dead wood would cut out andif it's affecting the whole plant, you
may need to do some rejuvenation typepruning, or you know, you may
(19:07):
need to make a decision to removea plant and uh and start over with
another, you know, and it'snot that's not super big deal. You
get to watch you grow again,yes, right, right, that's honestly,
but usually the cool part ring.So now I planted some vanilla strawberry
hydranges, Okay, not ideal time, put them in yesterday, early yesterday
(19:30):
or last week, and you know, just always got a monitor, yes,
yes, especially with this heat andthe fact that all the trees and
stuff just soak up so much waterit does. Right now, your trees
are taking if you have trees onyour on your property, you know,
they're taking most of the moisturing thatmaybe would normally be going to your shrubs.
(19:55):
They're they're competing for that soil moisture. Yeah, I mean I have
a creep myrtle with some like Mexicansiege and lantana and stuff that's wrapped around
it. Not swear. I haveto put that soaker hose on them for
like an hour, yes, waittill it evaporates, and then I have
to come back in another hour,right and put it on again. Right,
just because I mean the ground getsso compacted right with the trees,
(20:21):
right, So, but I meanit's it's kind of neat though, because
I watch my herber vide fern thatare kind of hidden there. Yeah,
go from crisp to hydrated. Yes, you know, it's kind of neat.
So you were saying you've got someevents going on coming up? Do
we have some events going on?Well, I will be doing some traveling.
(20:42):
It's kind of industry meetings, industry, right. So I'm going to
Texas to the Nursery Landscape Expo inSan Antonio. U lie the Texas whole
celling nurseries exhibit their landscapers come tosee what they have. And and I
also from Bracy's Nursery and a meatin addition to Clegg's Nursery. So we
(21:03):
we have a boot there in aweek and we ship and we ship plants
to a Texas in addition to Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia.
So you know it's uh, youknow, m Louisiana. When you
get to Texas, the Louisiana growingconditions are most like northeast Texas. And
then when you get to Dallas,San Antonio you know, our plant,
(21:26):
our plant Pallette, our plant Pallettin South Louisiana is different than when you
get over to Austin and San Antonioand you see more cactus and succulents over
there, and you know, azeajust don't do good. Your acid loving
shrubs don't do well. Have realpretty Texas each exactly Texas age everywhere I
(21:47):
wish, I wish. Yeah,we're well here. You know, it
just doesn't get it doesn't turn intoa big giant mass exast silver. Yes,
yes, whereas you go there andits absolutely orgeous over there. Real
question is how I don't know howthey keep the stuff watered out. I
know, it's just it's just itcan be brutal out there. We have
family that lives out in Austin andstuff, and it's just brutal, brutal,
(22:10):
brutal. Yeah. Yeah, I'mnot looking forward to the reflective heat
of downtown San Antonio concrete. Canyou get yourself one of those air conditioned
necklaces as one of those little missfans on your cap or something exactly exactly?
So, so you know, beforewe started, you were you had
mentioned something about you've got some superwe've got some superplants coming on. Yeah,
(22:33):
so I just thought we would maybetalk about Louisiana superplant so a little
bit and get away from the weatherdiscussion. Yeah. Sure, So I
think a lot about I know aboutLouisiana all issue accent of Louisiana superplants.
But those are the you know,three or four or five plants every year
that the l issue accent or recommendsfor our landscapes. And they're mostly ornamental
(22:56):
plants, shrubs, trees, flowers, running old annuals and uh. And
this year, the Peggy Martin roseis Louisiana superplant. And I think most
of us know Peggy Martin. Andman, there's been a lot of those
roses planted in the last five yearsor safe. I have never seen so
much of one particular rose go outof the store exactly and exactly. And
(23:18):
you know, um, Peggy Martinis mainly a once bloomer in the springtime,
and it's a rambler or a climbingrose, however you want to classify
it. I like that rambler.Yeah, rambler, And you're Peggy Martin's
gonna bloom batter if you grow ithorizontally. Then if if you grow it
(23:40):
vertically. I just I remember mygrandfather, we had a fence line,
yes, like four foot pick offense, Yes, and they had one growing
on it. Yeah. And Imean that that left side of the house.
I mean it was in bloom.Yes. You I mean you had
to turn your head driving down theroute. Yeah. Train your train your
(24:00):
rambler roses to run along the topof a fence. You will get incredible
bloom out of them. Yeah.I mean you don't really have to replace
the fence that much more often,you know, because it's not like,
you know, it doesn't have thatmuch weight to it. You know,
it's not like someone like putting Confederatejasmine on. Yeah. Yeah, Peggy
Martin is generally foreign less. Itdoes have a few prickles, nice pink
(24:23):
blooms. You don't generally get fallblooming, but when the plants get older,
and when you get good growing conditionsof the fall, you can get
some secondary bloom in the fall ofthe year. Awesome, We need a
new topic. Do we have anycallers? No callers, no calls,
but maybe someone forgot how to call. Okay four nine nine w GPO four
(24:44):
to nine nine. So we weretalking about Peggy Martin Rose. We were
so Peggy. Martin Rose is asuperplant this year. And the Blue Days
mainly the Blue my Mind variety ofBlue Days really really fantastic plant. I
just like how compact that variety is. Yes, Yeah, the regular of
(25:06):
all of this. Yes, Plusit's hard, Yes, it's just kind
of it tries, it tries,I mean, and it blooms and it
does, but it doesn't put theshow then on Blue Days. Blue Days
is more compact. Um. Uh, definitely a better bloomer. Yeah.
And they've got some other varieties thatthere's beach Bums, a couple of others,
but they're on. Yes, I'mkind of confused by the there's the
(25:30):
blew my mind. Yes, andit's the blew my mind XL. I
know, and I'm I figured out. I have a hard time telling of
the difference. Yeah, I don'tknow if the xcel the flowers are supposed
to be bigger or the plants supposedto be bigger. I can't I don't
understand. But anyway, blew mymind or blew my mind next L.
Yeah, but they're both really niceand uh and usually they're gonna, usually
(25:53):
they're gonna usually they're gonna be perennial. I don't know if they were perennial
the last couple of winters, butnormally their perennial. I used to just
use it as a good annual exactlyand exactly if you if you weren't afraid
of having a little annual budget,right right right. And now that said,
you always had to dig them up. When you dug them up,
you always had to replace the soilbecause it takes the soil with right right,
(26:15):
you know. But I mean betweenthat and the varieties of lantana,
they're coming out, you know,nice lantana improvements. Um, all the
vegetatively propagated sunflowers. Now, sothe sunfinities and the sun credibles, the
sun credibles or superplants also and uh, but they're not from seed there you
(26:40):
take, you do cuttings on them, so you can't find sunfinity seed or
some incredible yellow seed or some incrediblesaturn seed their ownly available by asexual propagation.
Uh, So they don't produce seedin the landscape. The flowers just
(27:02):
keep on producing. So your normalvariety of sunflower sets a flower head and
that flower head set seed. Butthese vegetatively propagated, a sexually propagated sunflowers
just keep on blooming spring through fall. And you know they're two two and
a half feet tall. And oneof my friends in New Orleans at the
(27:25):
country club where he's the horticulture manager, he plants those like one hundred at
a time. They are absolutely incredible. The bees are all over him,
you know, some butterfly activity,NonStop shape. Yeah. Now that's that's
one plant. I wish I gota little bit more sun in my house,
right right, I mean it's ashow stopper. Of course. On
(27:48):
one of my favorite Facebook gardening pagesthe other day, somebody wanted to pollinate
or plants for their shade and somebodysuggested sunflowers, sunflowers or sun flowers they
need us. Well, look,can I just say, I mean it's
a little you know, I don'twant to it's not false advertisement, but
(28:11):
like you know, your sun patients, yes, yes, okay, they
have sun in the name. Butif you don't plant those early in the
year, that's right, and havea sprinkler system, they will not take
the sun. It's all about plantingtime. And and those were developed you
know in California or in Chicago andsun. There is not sun in Baton
(28:34):
Rouge exactly. So anyway, sometimesdown here on the Gulf Coast we're neglected
in the new plant consideration. Sometimeswe need our own plant breeding down here.
Well, I mean they've got aproven winners I think at a Michigan
as ever. Yes, right,you know every I mean they're all based
(28:56):
elsewhere. Yes, not in theSouth. Yes, most of the betting
plant development large growing facilities in theUnited States or California and Michigan. And
then you got growing operations in Colorado. Okay, it must be nice.
It's cool out that west. I'lltell you what it's I bet it's so
comfortable out there right now, youknow, you shoot, they might be
(29:17):
pulling weeds right now, I know, man, Man and then are the
last superplan for this year as theCinnamon Girl distillium. You know, um,
a lot of home gardeners still don'tknow about distill them, but certainly
the landscapers are using a lot ofdistill them. I mean that's so if
you put if you put your youknow, like your clearra, you're Indian
(29:37):
hawthorn, right, you know,and you're distilling them all in the same
group. That's the ones that theydon't really flower like here, I guess
you're Indian hawthorns have some flowers,right, but it's not gonna be noted.
It's more for the foliage the shrubitself, right, right. But
the cinnamon like cinnamon girl are justmost distillingum in general just outperform every I
(29:59):
mean, they they really do.I have I hardly ever have somebody say
they've had problems with costillium. Theydon't have insect issues. They do make
a small red flower in February downon the stem within the cannaby of the
plant, but most of the timeyou don't notice. Yeah, And I
find it's kind of like the likeyour flax of leaf flower, yes,
where it spends all this time makingthese flowers and then they are gone and
(30:22):
probably but four hours and you're notreally look to see them too. Yeah,
exactly so. But all the distilliumcinnamon girls a most sold now bench
as jade is popular swing low coppertone. I would think the only complaint
I ever have about them is andthis is mainly mainly for the smaller leaf
(30:42):
ones. Yes, they are slowto bounce back from pruning in the beginning
of the exactly exactly, you know, just very slow, right, whereas
like your copper tone distillium, right, you know that unless you're intermediate,
that's like a four footer. Yeah, and then linebacker that's just always fast.
Linebacker is a good plant. Linebackersthe biggest growing of the of the
(31:06):
distilliums that we sell around the BatonRouge area. Really great for a screen.
If you're looking for something besides clearor sweet by burn or Oakley,
go go with the linebacker distillium.I mean they are they're fabulous, They
grow quickly, they take a trim, you can shape them. I've got
some gorgeous fifteen gallon gloopers. Theyweren't intended to be gloop yeah. Okay,
(31:33):
you know it just came smaller thanwhat I requested, right, But
I mean you can shape them howeveryou want. They're growing them in single
trunk patio trees. I have afew of those at seeking and just overall
and neat plant. I like howit's each stem is kind of layered,
yes, yes, and it's justI mean it's a cool little evergreen.
Yeah, good layered canopy. Thenew growth as copper maroon, bronze and
(32:00):
doing a little bit of tip pruneand a couple of times during the year,
don't do major prune. He's justdo a little bit of tip pruning
to help the lateral branching and keepthem a little bit smaller. Ye,
And I mean a couple of yearsago it was just vintage gade we could
get exactly, you know. AndI don't know, I mean, I
don't like that one as much.I don't either. I'm really toward all
(32:20):
these other ones now. Ventage jadeis probably the the It's a very strong,
horizontal h and I like how thebranching weeps. Yes, you know
once it gets a lottle weight,and that's really it's a neat looking plant.
Yeah. Yeah. But but ifyou drive around Baton Rouge and a
(32:40):
lot of the McDonald's have distilliums planted, and I've seen some of some of
the banks, and so anyway,if you're a home garden route there and
you're looking for a shrub that's easycare replace your Dwarfield ponds and Indian Hawthorne
check out distilliums and Cleggs carries themwhenever, whenever they're commercially available. I
(33:04):
will always have distill. Once ina while, the wholesale growers run out
and you have to wait a coupleof weeks. But the stealums have become
the top selling newer shrub the lastfive to ten years in the southeastern United
States. And I mean funny itcame in purple exactly. I would go
ahead and replace Lourer pedalums with it. Yes, yes, so, but
(33:25):
it's just been overall real impressive.Yes, you know, you know you're
talking about McDonald's. I saw someroses blush blueberries, yes, and we
had just got some in over atseaging finally, right. And unfortunately I
built my flower bed when we didn'thave them, yes, so I didn't
get to put them in right,right, But no, I just I'm
(33:47):
always tickled when I drive by McDonald'sand I see like a little niche plant
like that you don't see typically,right, right. So you know,
it's great that we have a fewcompanies in Baton Rouge that they're willing to
let the landscapers that take care oftheir business trying new plants and try unique
plants. That's what people want tosee, Yeah, they want to see
(34:08):
some kind of oh what is that? Yes, yes, shoot the Gordonia.
Yes, I mean I've had somany customers. I was like,
what is that? Is that amagnolia? It's like, no, not
a magnolia. And the twenty fivethirty year old Chinese French trees or that
are planting around Baton roagement now,but they bloom. You know, everybody's
(34:30):
always calling about what those are.I think most people know what Vitex this
now, but people call about theblue flowers on Vitex when they call him,
what are those? What are those? All? Right, Well,
it looks like we had a callerquestion, but yeah, it was a
question about They didn't want to goon air, but they did want to
kind of get y'all's thoughts on theEarthworm Castings product that's out there, kind
(34:52):
of like it's effectiveness, you knowhow it's how you use it, and
just questions and thoughts about the product. Yeah. No, so earthworm Castings
great product. I kind of lumpit in with all the so there's like
your mushroom compost, it's all yoursoil amendments, all right, and so
(35:15):
it's just it's a great product toput in. I mean I have a
friend of mine works for contractor company, and every single flower bed they build
go it's mushroom compost, earthworm castings, and they're they're big on the organic
side, you know. And it'sI mean, can't get more organic than
that, you know. And it'sjust you want to amend that soil to
(35:37):
kind of set it up for successten years from now, you know.
So that's like the biggest thing Ifound with it. It's like, I
mean, it helps kind of holdwater a little bit better, right,
you know. And I mean alsothere's the fact that has the big no
chemicals on the side exactly. Yeah. Earthworm castings are nice and all the
(35:59):
different compost and all those products giveyou a little nutritional boost and they and
they give you that organic matter ofrefreshment to your to your landscape bed.
Yep. You know, if youhave a raised bed and you have like
one of our raised bed souls inthere, you know, every time you
replant your annuals put those worm castingsin, put some black cowie in,
(36:21):
put some mushroom compost in. Youknow. Yeah, No, I know.
There's a little elderly lady that comesto visit me periodically and every single
time she plants petunias. Yes,pansies or collediums. Okay, every single
time it's bone meal, blood mealand worm casting, you know. And
(36:42):
she's like, it's the it's thesweet spot. You know. I'm never
changing She's been doing it for years. Yes, you know, and I
get it. Once you find therecipe, just keep going with it.
Don't don't be changing things up exactly. Lee, how's it going today?
Hello? Good morning? Good?You're doing all right? Yeah? No,
doing good? Of question? Um, I want to start a multi
(37:07):
pile mult thing. Um, whatdo you suggest? Well, first off,
we're gonna select the spot, allright, and so and when you
say mult you you just want tomake like a compost bin. Yeah,
talking about okay, so would IWell we did it growing up. I
(37:28):
wanted to say I have wet spotsthat I have a drive spot. Of
course everything drives can be now.Yeah, but I have a big planter
that we did for my daughter inthe back of the yard, and I
want to put it near that andthe back of it kind gets wet,
so maybe on the sides. Butyeah, what what you got for me?
(37:50):
That would be fine? If itgets wet, all right, that'll
just help with uh, like decomposition, all right, but just anywhere that's
out the way, all right.And we built it like a little It
was like a I took some palletsand then a chain link fence and then
just made like a little box essentially, all right. And so and then
(38:15):
we just fill that up periodically likeleaf matter. It goes in there,
any kind of organic stuff like abanana, peals, anything like that.
If you have a way to collectyour grass, grass clippings or leaves or
real small sticks, that can allgo into a pile that you're going to
(38:36):
start composting. Yeah. The biggestthing with that is we want to make
sure we turn it up every sooften, all right, Right, so
pitchwork works fine, all right,or or if you like my folks,
they got chickens. The chickens dothe work for you. Yeah, we
used to, but not anymore.Yeah, big thing is just make sure
(39:00):
we turn it up pretty regularly.Yeah. And uh, like we had
so we had two bins and oneof them was like the super age stuff,
and then the other one was morefresher, like your grass clippings and
stuff, because you really want tolet that stuff kind of sit and break
down real real well, before wetry and add that to any kind of
(39:22):
sort. Oh, I have anotherquestion about that. I have a friend
who has horses. Yeah, andmanure is abound. Oh yeah, that
would be good to sew in theretoo, Yeah, of course, yeah,
absolutely, yeah, if they wantto give you some free manure,
(39:43):
oh definitely. Now my sister getshas rabbits, she does the exact same
thing. It just goes in thecompass bile. So all right, all
right, well, thank you,you're welcome. Have a good ga.
Yeah, you know, I reallylike that makes me want to build another
(40:06):
compost pilot. Yes, yes,but I have a one year old and
a four year old and I'm prettysure they'll go swimming in there. Yeah.
I haven't been composting or doing acompost pile in a good while.
But uh yeah, great way totake all your yard debris, your waste
materials. And uh, we onlymake something that's very useful in the in
(40:28):
the landscape, in the garden,and I mean even even shrub flower beds.
And yes, yes, all thatthat soil dissipates over time. It
does, and so you can justtyped us with your company, right right,
So, but it looks like wegot one more collar good. All
right, Dana, how are youdoing today? I'm good? How are
(40:51):
you good? That's what we gotgoing on. We planted some wintergreen box
shrubs and they are turning yellow,so we can't be you're already for watering
them too much or possibly not enough. All right? So the first question
how much and how often do wewater? We water every afternoon on a
(41:12):
sprinkler system for five to seven minutes, and it's a gallon per minute.
Hmm. And these were recently plantedthis spring, yes, okay, all
right. And when you say yellow, is it just like how do I
put this a golden roof? Yellow? Or does it or does it turn
yellow and then into a brown?They turn yellow and into a brown?
(41:36):
Okay. And as the whole plantor is just like a branch or two,
it's a branch or two and thenit travels to the whole plant.
Yeah, so we might be lookingat some dieback. Is the can you
check the soil to see if it'sstaying wet? It just doesn't seem like
(41:57):
seven minutes is going to put onenough water though, you know. Okay,
So if we if we like pulla plane up and it's still dry,
we're not watering it enough. Yeah, do you have mulch around the
plants? We do, Yeah,I would just check under the mulch layer
and try to see if you cancheck on the soil moisture down underneath the
mulch and see what that looks like. But it's an overhead irrigation, I
(42:22):
don't think you may be getting enoughmoisture to the soil. But I'm also
concerned, like what Zane just said, that he may have some stem die
back going on, which could bea disease issue. And um, it's
just hard to give you a definiteanswer, but but that's what we're thinking
about. Yeah, okay, andwhat we're talking about. We usually see
(42:43):
that uh kind of earlier in thespring when it's uh we kind of get
rainfall every other day. That's reallywhen you see it where it's the ground
just states saturated. So but Iwould definitely start with that checking underneath the
mulch, like on a have thicka layer multi half. But it's not
(43:04):
it's sick at all, Okay,all right, So I would just check
and see it check there first,right, okay, and kind of take
it from there. All right,all right, great, thank you so
much. You're welcome. And youknow, right now, this time of
year, the gardens lentners like clegs, we're not as fully staffed as we're
on the fall. But you know, feel free to bring a sample into
(43:25):
the gardens centers or take a picture, but but actual physical samples even better.
Yeah, and you know, comein Monday through Thursday when we're not
as busy, and U and oneof us will do the best we can
to help you diagnosed problems. Yeah. I mean that's one thing we're for
the most part, really good aboutis we always have somebody on staff.
Yes, every day. Yes,Second, you know, at least point
(43:49):
us in the right direction, rightright, So all right, so we
got just a couple of minutes left, just a couple of minutes of sports
though. Right, Oh well,I really want to do a sports talk
show, I really do. Iwant to go. I want to go
through the LSU football schedule. Look, you could always have a career change.
Let's see what time is it.Let's see it's thirty six days and
(44:14):
nine hours and three minutes still kickoff? Oh nice man, you were
really a fan. Well we maybe kicking off at six ten instead of
six o'clock. You know how,you know you might need to start hanging
out with my wife. I reallylike to get it down in minutes and
seconds. You know, cannot alwaysbe accurate, but you know, well
(44:35):
you're gonna always count down in yourgarden too, when you're going to harvest
your tomatoes, or when you're gonnaplant this, or when you're gonna put
your first pumpkins out on your frontporch. You know, is it gonna
be Labor Day weekend or are yougonna wait a little after Labor Day or
are you gonna be waiting in theparking lot at Clegg's nurshould we when the
first eighteen wheeler comes in exactly?I know Zaine will load you up one
(44:57):
of those hundred pound pumpkins, noproblems, you know it. You know,
it falls my favorite time of theyear, and hopefully we'll have a
nice fall and hopefully guess some rainthe next couple of weeks falls for planting.
But we need to have the rightweather to do it. So you've
been listening to w JBO Lawn andGarden Show. Thank you for having us.
(45:17):
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