November 29, 2025 • 40 mins
We're talking Christmas trees this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Butch, Chris, and intern-in-training Caroline from Clegg's Nursery!
Along with tips on selecting and taking care of your trees, we also go in-depth on poinsettias as Clegg's hosts their Poinsettia Open House at the Greenwell Springs location!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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Along with tips on selecting and taking care of your trees, we also go in-depth on poinsettias as Clegg's hosts their Poinsettia Open House at the Greenwell Springs location!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lone and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, Baton rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven
to fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is
Butch Drews. I'm with Chris Herman from Clegg's Nursery and
intern in training. Caroline. Good morning, good morning, good morning.
It is Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving, belatedly, everybody's still full. Yes,
(00:43):
I had leftovers last night. Yeah, I did too. I
think we're almost out of leftovers. I am. You know,
it's always so good, but about the fourth time you
had enough exactly. So anyway, a lot going on. Tis
the reason I'm sure we will have Christmas bump music. Well, no,
(01:04):
we won't Jeremies here today. So anyway, Robbie Halloween, Yeah,
the way he's been running this morning, you mean the
death metals not appropriate? No? Probably not okay, I'll but anyway,
I hear you have a question for mister Chris.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Mister Chris, what type of Christmas tree does Clark's South
What are the differences?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's what my notes are.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
So, yeah, real we are in the middle of Christmas
tree selling season. We carry Fraser fur, noble, fur, Douglas
fir and grand fur, and then we have one that's
called an Alpine fur noble, which is still a noble,
but it looks more like a Charlie Brown tree.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well it's it's actually what they call it unsheared correct.
Typically Christmas tree farms they nowadays typically they're mann mechanically done,
but you to be they were handed in. They share them,
they could give them haircuts to make them tight or
very good branch more in all where the Alpine noble
(02:09):
is not shared, so it has much more gapping and
is you know, some people say that Charlie Brown tree
or what I almost consider a more traditional Christmas tree
more open.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's actually what Holly and I like, that's what we
get is at more open tree. To me, that's where
you hang your ornaments exactly. You get these full trees
where do you have to shove them in there or.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They just kind of lay on the outside. Yes, Wow,
so we actually we should have written that down. So
we actually like the alpine or it's also called a
natural noble But like you said, they're not sheared right.
What are the differences in the trees.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Well, the frasier fur has the best needle retention, followed
by the noble fur.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They're they're one A and one B for sure. The
grands in Douglas. I mean it's a I don't want
to say cheap, it's more economical, but they tend to
lose their needles quick and with the weather we've been
having and thankfully it's cooler now and when it's in
the eighties, they have a hard time holding their needles.
(03:13):
And I'm going to interrupt you here real quick, but
one of the things that I was impressed by, and
you were doing it when I was still there. But
Cleggs goes to a lot of effort, I mean a
lot of effort to protect their trees. You know, it's
easy and you know people go, well, our trees are
in water all the time. Yeah, no they're not. But
(03:34):
you know the trees that get stood up out where
this weather can get to them are in water bowls.
But the backups it's impossible to put them in water bowls,
so Cleggs goes through. They actually enclose an area within
shade cloth so they're protected from the sun and they're
not going to dry out as quick. So again a
(03:55):
plug for Cleggs, which I try not to do, but
I just want people to know there's a lot of
effort goes into keeping the trees as fresh as planets.
I think it's ninety shade. Yeah, I mean it's you
get inside there and you could good night night.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And this is for our competitors here in town too.
I mean it it is hard to sell Christmas trees
here when it's eighty degrees. I mean, there's nothing we
can do in the.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Sunlight and the whole thing. But anyway, you were talking
about the Grands and the Douglas when I interrupted you.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I'm sorry, but they have a little bit of a
softer branching, so heavy ornaments don't really go on those branches.
But the Noble furs and the Fraser Firs have a
better have stiff branches of your heavier ornaments, and lights
do better on those. But as I said, we usually
bring in the Douglas and the Grands, so because they're
(04:43):
more affordable, right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But the thing with the Nobles and the Frasers both
is I think they're more fragrant than the other trees.
But now I have a lot of people say they
like the Douglas because of the fragance. It's got that
citrus smell. Okay, is that what it? But I like
the Fraser and the Noble. That pine Frasiers come from
(05:05):
North Carolina typically the rest of the trees usually come
from the Pacific.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Northwest Washington, Oregon, that area. What most people don't realize
is they're grown on a mountaintop. It's cool all season,
and when you bring them to the south again, which
we just discussed, it's hot.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right, I mean, and they're they're the one thing nice
and Cleggs has a relationship with the growers for many,
many years. So typically they are cut and loaded. It's
not like they're laying in a lot someplace for a
week or so before they get loaded. But typically they're
cutting and loading to Kleggs's trees, so that that that
(05:44):
helps with the freshness on it too well.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And if if they do hold them, because I've been
to a couple of our suppliers, if they do hold
them again, it's on a mountaintop and it's probably in
the forties, so it's like with snow we have. We
haven't received them with snow in quite some time, but
we have before.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I was actually going to ask a question kind of
like that, because you know, right now, for us around here,
it's a very chilly morning, but for these trees, I
would imagine for them, it's still warmer than what they're
used to.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, typically the trees this time of year, the trees
that haven't been cut, they're actually laid out on blankets
with sun, tannel, ocean on. But yes, so that's how
you get flocked. Very good. But no, you're right. You know,
actually in North Carolina, where a lot of our trees
come from, you know, it's it was eighteen degrees yesterday morning,
(06:34):
so there is a temperature difference between there and here.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And actually I'm going to forget the name, but we
just went hike, actually we went ziplining in North Carolina,
and they were telling you about the why the Smoky
Mountains are called the Smoky Mountains because it's actually the
trees or releasing is it a gas they release and
it produces a blue haze oh you were listening, which
actually shades them from the hot sun.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
There's not another way to check out the tree. Selection
them by zipline or no, they're not anyway cooler.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
How do you best have a fresh Christmas tree?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Take your hand and grab a branch. Of course they're
not seeing me on We're on the radio, aren't we.
And you just kind of pull your hand across the
branch and if a lot of needles fall off, then
it's dry, but if most of them stay on, then
it's fresh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And one of the things that I always when I
was there, I always tried to stress to not only
the employees to talk to the customers there with, but
whenever I was dealing with the customer. Christmas trees are
ever green, but they don't hold the same needles. They
go through. They change out their needles, if I'm not mistaken,
(07:49):
twice a year, and a lot of those needles get
trapped inside because they are so thick, they get trapped inside.
So a lot of times if you're about halfway down
the tree and you pull, you may get some needles
in your hand, but typically those needles were shed by
that tree before and they're just kind of stuck up
in the tree. What I tell people is always try
(08:13):
to reach to the top of the tree because Christmas
trees are going to dry out from the top down.
So if you just exactly what Chris said, grab one
of those upper branches. No, don't dank the whole thing,
but you know, just gently pull it over. And if
you come out with one needle, you've got a fresh tree.
If you come out with six or eight, yeah, you
might want to move to the next tree over another thing.
(08:36):
And this definitely I'm using my hands like Chris is,
and I have to use my hand for this. But
if you take your fore finger and your thumb and
put a needle between them, and if you squeeze that
needle and the two ends almost connect, that is an
extremely fresh tree. That's what I kind of like to
tell people. It's not fresh, it'll break or it'll slap you. Sorry,
(08:59):
but no, yea. If it doesn't break, if the two
ends almost match before it breaks, that is an extremely
fresh tree. But that's one of the things that you know,
so often people get that handful of needles in half
of them, you know, two thirds of them are brown.
Well I'm sorry, lady, but and they come bundled up
in a big old truck, so there are going to
(09:21):
be needles knocked off. Even so, there are sometimes loose needles.
And you know typically at Cleggs, when they're standing in
the trees, they try to bounce them to get rid
of some of those.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And that's another way that some people check for freshness.
And that's not really the best way because as you said,
they do lose needles, So if you bounce them, that's
probably old needles stuck in there. It is old needles,
But you do want to shake it to get it
out so you don't get it all over your carpet, right, Yeah,
And that doesn't determine the freshness. Just like you said,
get your fingers and pull a pull a branch and
(09:54):
see how many needles fall off.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
If you pull the tree off the reebar. You've pulled
too hard.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yes, yes, Another thing I wanted to mention is, especially
with the Fraser furs, a lot of people will see
a crack trum.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yes, that's natural.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I mean this is wood that is the inside of
a tree is wood, and it no longer has roots,
so as it dries that the cells shrink, splitting the
bark splitting the wood, and it doesn't affect how long
it's going to last. The only problem someone may have
with it is the years ago we used to use
(10:33):
those rebar Christmas tree stands that you drilled a hole
in it. If you drilled a hole close to that crack,
that's when you would have a problem. But as far
as being fresh, that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, yeah, because the venation or the movement of moisture
and nutrients in this case you're hoping for moisture is
up and down. It doesn't go round. So just that
one crack doesn't mean anything. In fact, a lot of
times the fresher and moisture the trees. Moisture is that
a word that more moisture in a tree when it
was cut creates more checking or splitting. That's actually actually
(11:11):
a sign of a pretty decent tree.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And in order to keep them fresh, put fresh clean water.
Wait that, but I take a question, sorry about that.
I mean, I've heard people put aspirin in it. Put sprite,
just clean, fresh, clean water.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I I do like the addition of the sprite sugar
sugar exactly, not diet sprite. By the way, and the
reason for all of those items. The old wives tale
thing I tell people, and I've used this on the
radio before. A wives tale becomes a wives tale because
(11:53):
there's some truth to it, and if it doesn't work it,
it tends to go away. But whenever you purchase a
Christmas tree at Clegs, they're always almost always going to
make a fresh cut, and you want to get that
tree home as quickly as possible and get it in
(12:13):
a bucket of water. Your tree stand with water in it,
and you want that tree not to dry out, because
once it dries out or it's been cut and shipped
to Clegs, the ends scab over, so you can't absorb moisture.
It's just like if you cut your hand or any
place on you, you scab over. Well, the tree's going
(12:35):
to do the same thing. So you make that fresh
cut so that it can absorb the moisture. And actually
the aspirin in the water is sort of an anticoagulant
which prevents that cut, even in a tree, from sealing
up to so it should be able to take up
the water longer. The sprite is a sugar which can
(12:56):
create more energy or absorption into the tree. Obviously, the
water is for water. A lot of people used to
use carrot syrup instead of you for the sugar, so
that's the reason for that. Do y'all have the tree preservative? Yes,
we have the preservative. Yes. I love people that go well,
I have this home. You know, if you figured out
(13:17):
all the things in your homemade recipe for you know,
tree keeping it green, the little two ninety nine three
whatever it is, bottle of tree preservers a lot. And
every time you fill your water bowl you use the
tree preservative. And what sorry, Caroline, how often have y'all
(13:39):
watered your tree so far? Every morning? Yes? So yeah,
and every time you do. You know, Adure sprite or
Adure tree preservative is by far the better way to go.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
And trees do take up a lot. Well, it depends
year to year. Some people filling it every day, so well,
I haven't filled it into two days. It depends on
how fresh the tree is exactly. It's going to slow
down over time, but you do want to check it
every day and put fresh water in it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Good morning, Elena, how are you hey?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
But I'm good?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
How are you fantastic? Elena? I hear you have a
little something special going on at the Cleggs Greenhouses on
Greenal Springs Road. What's up?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Yeah, okay, so stand that it is actually on its
way right now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh you got a I think I think I hear
the bells.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, you definitely hear the bells. Okay. So we've got
our points that open. Ow, it's from nine to two.
We've got uh Danna will be here for free pictures,
hot chocolate cookies, face painting with Grace Thompson, lots of points.
That is almost ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now, uh, you set up for you?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Yeah, we've sent up you out already. Okay, so let
me see what.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Else are we doing.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Actually, we're actually going to set up to Bryce and
Truro's like you know, don't.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Ooh, I might have that way. I'm pretty good over here. Yeah,
I bet it does. Our intern has a little question
for you if you don't mind, Yeah, tell me.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Do you do something to make the points set as
different colors? Or do you or are they just different varieties?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
That's a really good question. We don't actually do anything
to make them turn colors. They come in at different varieties.
You've got orange red with like glitter color, pink, let
me see white, different other like a sparkling rouge is
pink with like a glittery color to it, so yellow
we have yellow gold.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Uh in Lane, if I'm not mistaken. In the past,
you've actually helped LSU with some points at a research,
haven't you.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yes, we used to do the LSU trials with them,
where the customers who come out to the open house
would kind of rate their favorite points sets from one
to ten or one of twenty six. However, I mean
they had but uh, they're not doing those trials this year,
so we don't have the trials with them, but we
have worked them in the past.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, okay, that's that's very interesting. Actually, we visited the
other day, didn't we, Caroline. Yes, it was kind of.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Pretty well, those are very pretty.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yes, it's been a great opportunity for people in Batanos
to get out and actually see that. You know, it's
I've been in the business so long, but I still
marvel at just the beauty of your ten thousand point
set is in that greenhouse and the different varieties. There's
so many different varieties. I'm gonna put you on the
spot here, Lene. You can bring one point set at
home and only one. Which one would it be?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
For me, I'm gonna have to say it's the red glitter.
I love it, the red with the white sprinkled in there.
So that's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
All right, that's that's that's probably one of my favorites too.
When do y'all start actually planning the point setus.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
We start our point set at trees that we have.
We start those in May and then we start we
get the other ones then refinished from bruce ards green houses.
Those we get in and September, early September.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, you said a tree point set, what is that?
Speaker 6 (17:13):
That's right. We have some we have shaped as trees,
so we we start those. It's a good alternative to
Christmas tree or something else, or if you need a something,
a point set it with some height to it. It's
a very pretty and I don't know how many of
those you see around town?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, I see, I think I've seen those. And it's
something you could like, do you know, with some weather
protection at the front porch at an entrance, especially if
you were having to get together right exactly on either
side of the door. Yeah, that would be a good idea.
So beautiful and Ron and Elena do a fantastic job.
And these are points out. Elina does a good job.
(17:49):
Ron kind of just stumps along. She tells them what
to do.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well, it looks really pretty today, like all set up,
and then really after this weekend it starts clearing out.
So it's kind of like a winter wonderland today, but
after this weekend it won't look the same.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Tell us again, what time y'all are going to be
there or what time the open house is?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
So we've got people coming in now, but it's the
open house is from nine to two and Santa will
be here from nine to two to take pictures. Or
if you don't need to take a picture with Santa,
that's fine, We'll still be here. And we've got plenty
of points. That is, hot chocolate, cookies.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
All things, and donuts.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I heard that's right, donuts, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And I want to stress that this is the one
opportunity that the public can purchase directly from the Greenhouse,
if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Exactly, we're sort of a secret operation. Not many people
know about us, and uh so here's your chance my
end visit us.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
With the thousands and thousands of people that listen to
this show, it's probably not much of a secret anymore. Yeah, anyway,
nine to two today, Santa Cookies and cocoa and just an.
It's actually, like I said, I brought my granddaughters out
(19:07):
there the other day and they were actually extremely impressed.
It's a great opportunity if you're looking for a little
something to do this morning before you go shopping, or
maybe is a little thing at late, you know, as
it's before two to go by. It's kids really are
in awe of all that, and I was to it.
I've seen it before, but again, good luck with it,
and thank you Lena, Lena Fennel Clegg's Greenhouses on Greenwald
(19:30):
Springs Road. I'm trying to pull my phone went dead here. Yeah,
I'm trying to find the address once you're six four
or five Greenold Springs Road. So oh yeah, right, all right,
thank you, thank you Elena. And that again Clegg's point
set of open house from nine to two today Greenoald
Springs Road, right next to the Cleggs nursery there on
(19:53):
green Wald Springs So stop by, h Like I said,
it's a great opportunity to for kids to see a
how it's grown in just the mass of red white,
just the colors. Yeah, the colors are amazing, amazing, So
that does open up phone lines. Gives called four six sets,
four nine nine WJBO.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Tell me how to properly water a point SETA.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
You want to water the soil. You don't want to
water the foliage. You don't want to water the mud.
I've been to Baton Rouge too long. New Orleans came
out of me. Yeah, So you want to water the mud,
but use and you want to water enough where it
comes out the bottom. So make sure you have it
in a saucer so it doesn't run all over your
wooden floor or your carpet. But you don't want to
(20:42):
put a tablespoon or an ice cube or.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
An ice cube that's really not could be enough.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's good for succulents or Christmas characters or something like that.
But you want to water the soil, not the foliage.
Volage that's French fancy. If a big big if right here.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
If you have foil wrapping on that point set when
you get done watering it, take it about ten minutes
after you finish watering it, take it out of that
foil wrapping and make sure there's no water standing in there,
because you can if you have a lot of moisture
stuck in there, you can actually start to get root
root right. I know a lot of people will take
(21:24):
that foil off or speed cover as we call them,
right excuse me, and they'll put it in their sink
and water in their sink and let it drain for
about ten minutes, then put it back in the in
the foil wrap. That's a great, a great way to
do it. But don't let your points set a dry out.
If your point set of starts to droop, you might
(21:45):
as well dispose of it. It's not ever, it's there's
several different types of plants that that's the case with
once they really get dry there. If best case scenario,
they're going to have a whole bunch of yellow leaves
which you're going to cast off, so you gonna have
all these little red bracks with no leaves below it.
But so try to water and it's impossible for us
(22:06):
to There's someone in the audience with their hand up, Yes, sir,
you in the front row.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Well, I don't mean to interrupt, but but you did.
Chris said something, why do points set? He has come
in those foil wraps. It's decoration, okay, I know if
it's served a purpose. No, it's it's strictly for aesthetics.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Otherwise you're gonna look at a green pot.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But all the time for other plants. Yeah, it's just decorative.
Oh okay.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Is it just because this time of year you want
more of a decorative plant?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Of course. There was some Lady Martha story Martha Stewart.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I thought there was some super secret thing that it
helped the points that you do something.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It makes it feel christmasy. If you don't have the
foil on it, it kind of thinks it's Thanksgiving me.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Oh okay, So like you're ugly Christmas sweater. Basically it's
the equivalent of that.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Man, it is ugly. It's a beer shirt. It's not
even a Christmas shirt anyway, Turn in training, Miss Caroline.
Good morning, good morning. So apparently the the intern is
now turned into a teenager and it's sleeping late. She's
all hopped up in the court. That's right. Are you
(23:18):
okay over there? She's still asleep. I know. Anyway, give
us call four five, two six, that's four nine nine
WJBO if you missed the first two segments. Had a
great conversation with the lenn of Elena Fennell at our
Color division where they're having their Christmas points set an
open house. One opportunity in the year to go buy
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the greenhouse and actually purchase directly from the growers. So
great opportunity, great opportunity, bring your kids by. Santa will
be there, hot chocolate and cookies, and just the opportunity
to see all the different colors and just the massive
color those points set is.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And one of the things I want to touch on.
You touched on it, but about the point set of
trees or even just point settus.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
If you put them out on your front porch by
your front.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Door, which is a great idea, but they need to
be protected from the cold.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
If it goes below forty degrees, bring them in something.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And these are native to Mexico, so they like it hot,
kind of like avocados.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There you go, avocados in Mexico. Let's see what happened.
What's going on with Gary? Good morning, Gary, Welcome to
news Radio eleven fifty wjbo's line Garden Show. What can
we do for you? Yeah, what a lovely day.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I have a peach tree up in about five years ago,
but now it's getting called and wide, When can I
prune it and what.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
To the cutoff. Typically on peach trees, we prune after
we've picked the fruit. And typically obviously any low branches,
say below three four feet, I'd probably remove those just
for convenience of being able to work around the tree.
And if you go up into the felicienas or even
(24:58):
up into the rusting area, they actually have what looks
like lawnmowers and once they go once they get done picking,
they raise them up to about six I think it's
about eight feet and they just mow over the top
of them. So pruning on peach trees is to keep
them in line so that they so that you can
pick the fruit. Mostly that's the only reason you really
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need to prune. Also, sometimes if they're getting real thick,
you'll want to prune some of the inner branches just
so you get better airflow. But again, most of that
pruning is done right after you get done pickings, so
it's too late to do it now. Sometime in late summer, right, yeah,
Typically you're picking in late May or early June, so
(25:39):
I would do it after that. If you prune right now,
you're removing possible fruit so I think I would wait.
All right, thank you very much, great tone, you too.
Pruning of plants, we're still a little early on most
of that. As far as trees, it's been so hot. Yeah,
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it's been so hot. They really haven't defilated yet, deflated defilated.
I just got a bad I was always told.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
With fruit trees, peaches, plums, you want almost a wine
glass shape, right. You want it to kind of come
out and have your your middle, your center of your
tree kind of empty so you can get air circulation
so we don't get a fungus.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That wasn't a bad look. That was an impressed look.
Oh okay, defilated them. I knew what he meant, but
which I would be really worried if I would.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, most of your deciduous trees have not really defiliated
much yet, and typically you want to do most of
that pruning once the sap has gone down, which is
usually January early February. And one of the things, since
we're discussing pruning right now, that so many people don't realize.
I think once you tell them, they go, oh, yeah,
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that makes sense. But if there's a brand, especially on
a newly planted tree, that is three foot off the ground.
That branch is always going to be at three foot
off the ground. It's not going to magically move up
the tree. Trees grow from the top. They don't grow.
They don't elongate like humans do, where you know, you
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start out with your legs a foot long and by
the time your whatever height you are there three foot long.
That doesn't work in trees. They only grow from the top.
So when doing pruning, especially on younger trees, consider that
with some of the lower branches, that that branch is
always going to be height wise exactly where it is.
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So that's one of the things to be And also
you want to look for forking in trees, especially your
oak trees, your large shade trees. You want to prevent
any forking that is occurring, which is two branches main
branches coming out headed up at the same level, because
that will be a weak spot as a tree matures.
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And we're talking about trees. You also do not want
to prune shrubs right now, especially isaiahs and isaias, should
have been pruned after they bloomed, just like the fruit
trees in June July July. It's probably a little too
late because aias have already set their already set their buds.
And you don't want to cut susanquids because they're blooming
right now. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
But even your sweet olives and holly bushes. I mean,
if you cut them now, they're not going to well.
They may put on new growth. If we have another
warm spell, which we're probably going to have. You want
to wait till the spring, when it warms up, prune them,
fertilize them, and then they'll flush out for you.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know, I'm going to make another plug right here.
We're talking about again the points set of open house
at the green or Springs location with the points set
as in all if you're going by Klegs, any of
the Kleggs, especially Seegan Lane to get your Christmas tree,
take a minute or two and go out into the
plant yard. The susankuas are directly behind the Christmas trees anyway,
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and just blooms. I was there a Wednesday and it
is so beautiful with all the different colors. I mean,
they're they're reds, whites, pinks. Typically you don't have any
you know, like the points set as you got the
yellows and the whites and all that, but still it's
so pretty with all of the suscanncles. And if you've
ever considered a sassaank, well, now it would be a
great time to go vibe because you can get you know,
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dark pink or a light pink, or a dark red
or you know a light red, whatever it is. So
it's a great opportunity and it's just nice to walk
around and look.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
At Yes, they are pretty, even the I'm gonna say
leaf litter, I guess it's the petal litter all on
the ground.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It looks beautiful. Yeah, we have at our house we
have some screen of the white I can't remember which was.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Know.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
The other one sets sets an acora, that's a geka
and they have already started to drop, so it looks
like snow underneath them. Right, I'm gonna put some reindeer
out there anyway, give us a call for six. It's
for nine nine w JBO. Do you have any other questions, Caroline?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
What betting plants are available to plant now?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So we have a good selection of fall betting plants.
We have pansies, fiolas, snap dragons, dianthus, petunias, ornamental cabbage,
and kale listen fox glove, and we even have poppies.
I actually went and walked around them.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I could tell you how to listen. None of their
listeners could until I said something. But definitely time to
be planting your pansies. And one of the things I've
talked to Alan when Alan Owens, who's on the show
here seldomly anymore, but sometimes, but what no one can
explain to me. Take eight dollars the cup of a
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star price of a Starbucks cup of coffee. Buy a
bag of blood meal incorporated into soil when you're planning
your especially your pansies, and I will guarantee you a
better color to your blooms. And I have no idea
why that is what it is about blood meal, but
it does definitely improve the color. It brightens the color
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of the pansy.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Blooms, pansy pansies this time of the year, and then
then the spring. Kalladiums kaladiums love the blood meal too. Yeah,
that you get a bigger leaf and again more coloration
to the leaf. But one of the I think underutilized
plants that I'm seeing more and more with some of
the newer varieties of the dianthus you brought up. That
is a you can You can do a red and
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white and have a real good Christmas theme with the diantis.
The one thing about dianthus is you really and this
is true with any of your annuals, but you really
want to try to keep them dead headed, which means
prune the old blooms off when they start to fade.
Annuals want to go to seed.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That's their whole purpose in life is they want to
grow flour, go to seed, drop the seed, and reproduce themselves.
And once they've successfully done that, my life's over. I
might as well die. I might as well die. So
if you keep them from going to that seed, they
are going to last much longer for you and actually
obviously look prettier because you don't have all those brown,
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ugly flowers. And if you're married, you probably it's a
great relief to go and get rid of the tension.
Go out there and pop those little heads off.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So and with the dianthus and the pansies and Viola's
and Viola's just kin to the pansy, it's got a
smaller flower, they'll bloom, I mean all winter, right, the
snap dragons will kind of slow down, but they are
going to give a show in the spring, and don't
come in the spring looking for snap dragons that we're
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not going to have them. So they need to be
planted now and they will give you a great show
that and to some extent, petunias they are photosensitive.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
They have to have so many hours of daylight to
actually bloom, and once we get into the real short
day length, we just don't have quite enough. Now they
are with the snap dragons, like I think it's a
solstice series, they've reduced that time period. But again, most
of the snap dragons here, like you said, Chris, in
January February, you're gonna have minimal bloom. Yes, and I
(33:15):
have got too correct myself. I have made a big mistake.
My wife is usually the one that shows points those
out to me. But you want to prune your fruit
trees now in January and early February. I do not
know what I was thinking about, but I would have
been willing to lose my house that I had to.
But again, hopefully Gary, you are still listening. I do apologize,
(33:39):
but I did give out bad information. You do want
to be pruning in January early February on those peach trees.
But Caroline, you got another question.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Can we still plant vegetables now?
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yes, yes, we have a good selection of fall vegetables
that you can plant now, cool season collared greens, Swiss
charred with I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Not really a big Swiss chard to eat. Why are you?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Are you much more so than some of the other broccoli,
colorflower cabbage. I hate to say this, but we had
tomatoes on the bench. I had to go ask Braiden's like,
why do you have tomatoes? Apparently color a vision had them. Well,
but if you've done a plant them, put them in
a green.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
House exactly put them in. And actually this year I'm
glad you asked that, Caroline, because we have been so warm, hot,
up until what literally this last week or the week
before that, our soil temperatures have been at a point where,
especially a lot of the seed crops you would do, carrots.
I was talking to mister Johnny about carrots and he
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planted them when he normally would and had zero germination
because of how warm things have been. And that's for
a lot of your lettuce varieties. As warm as we've been,
they'll bolt, which once a lettuce starts to bolt, mean
it wants to go to flowers, it turns bitter, so
you literally have to get rid of the plant. So
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now I hate to say, this is a time to plant,
because we have finally cooled off for a lot of
these vegetables.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
So Johnny says, I can plant carrots now because I
missed my I thought I missed moment.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
No you haven't. I planted. I actually planted our carrot
patch ten days ago, maybe two weeks ago so, and
I got very good germination at that point. So yeah,
you can definitely plant your carrots right now.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
And it was probably I guess about two weeks ago.
We received our onion sets. So you have onions, yes,
so they're moving quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I need to get mine now. That is a that
is another neat crop, especially if you have a limited space,
you know you I have cinder blocks around my garden.
I plant them in the little holes of the cinder blocks.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
So last year was the first time I did onions,
and I was blown away.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean that was just awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I mean they were huge. I planted the vidalia onions.
They were as big as Holly's head and she's got
a big head.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But the biggest thing with onions, and again I'm going
to is we sell a product at Clegg's ammonium sulfate.
They like an acidic soil, and they are they're teenage boys.
They want a lot of fertilizers. So at least if
nothing else, you know, calcium nitrate would be something else.
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Just you want to put a nitrogen source on them.
And one of my good friends that has moved away,
he grew onions every year and he the first of
every month he would go out and fertilize pretty heavily
with a nitrogen product. And like you said, he could
get some huge onions. So that's and for all of
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your fall crops, a calcium nitrate is extremely important because
almost all of your fall crops, as opposed to your
spring crops, you're producing foliage. You're eating the foliage. You
pointed out, the Swiss charred, the collared greens. You know,
all that mustard, mustard greens, let us kale. All that.
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You are producing vegetation, and you need that nitrogen to
produce the vegetation. So cabbage, what is cabbage? It's just
a rolled up bunch of leaves. So you want as
much and you can go every two weeks in the fall.
It's important in the spring too, tomatoes always are blooming
off a new gross. You want to keep your tomatoes blooming.
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Calcium nitrate again. But you know, Cleggs does a great
job of putting signs out. You know, for the pansies,
they should have signs on the table use blood meal,
the vegetables should have the used calcium nitrate. Oh, they
just want us to buy something else, now they don't.
Cleggs is trying their best to give out information that
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is useful, that will help you grow. They're not. Yes,
we would love for you to buy you know, seven
different things, but you don't need to buy your vegetable
bat plants, buy your calcium nitrate and you're going to
be very successful. They do. You still have the little
handouts there that they can take with them. Yes, you
know that tells you exactly what to do how to
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do it. You know, mister Johnny is the gardening expert
in Baton Rouge and he's put most of that stuff
together himself, and it's there for a reason. It's there
to help you. So you read the signs, follow it.
What's what's calcium nitrate right now about ten bucks a bag,
and that was yeah, we're in there. Yeah it's a
it's approximately ten bucks, and it's going to produce. You know,
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it's going to well produce more than the ten dollars
that you're paying for it. Unlike the fence I had
to put around my broccoli plants. I figured it out, Chris,
it's going to be forty dollars ahead of broccoli. Bunny
rabbits are deer that's eating them. We weren't sure.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
We think it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
We think it might have been rabbits, but we also
were concerned it was squirrels. Actually, so we had we
did mister Johnny and I. He came up with an
idea for us because my wife didn't and I understand
why I'm not saying anything. We wanted to use burden
etting on the ground. So we built a nice little
fence and put the burden eating at the top of it,
but no bedding plants right now, excellent time to plant
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your cool season, your pansies, your snap dragons. Snapdragons behind
pansies is just a beautiful combination. Yes, just really is
show stopping in the spring. Vegetable plants you're not late.
If you plant your carrots, Chris, go right do it.
You know, cleagg sells a rainbow mix. If you have kids,
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pick up the rainbow mix. It's it's kind of like
an Easter egg hunt. You never know what color of
the carrot's going to be until you pull it out
of the ground.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Does your regular orange, white, A red, A pur purple
that's really neat? A yellow yep, So that's something else
to do.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Funnly, I always try to, you know, with all the
young families out there, you know, get the kids involved
in gardening. If it is, you know, just a container
full of pansies with a couple of snap dragons in
the middle something, then they're going to have fun with it. So,
I mean we should be getting potatoes in about another month. Yeah, yeah,
So Caroline, thank you very much. Did an excellent job.
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Did you have a good time. Are we going to
go by the open house on Green Springs Road the
Points at Us? Probably? I have to work. I'm going
to miss it. And thank you Chris and I as always,
thank you Jeremy. You've been listening to news radio eleven
fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. We are Clegg's Nursery.
We are Baton Rouge's Independent Garden Center. We will see
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you next Saturday morning at eight o'clock. I have a
great weekend. Go Tigers. Merry Christmas.
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lone and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, Baton rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven
to fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is
Butch Drews. I'm with Chris Herman from Clegg's Nursery and
intern in training. Caroline. Good morning, good morning, good morning.
It is Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving, belatedly, everybody's still full. Yes,
(00:43):
I had leftovers last night. Yeah, I did too. I
think we're almost out of leftovers. I am. You know,
it's always so good, but about the fourth time you
had enough exactly. So anyway, a lot going on. Tis
the reason I'm sure we will have Christmas bump music. Well, no,
(01:04):
we won't Jeremies here today. So anyway, Robbie Halloween, Yeah,
the way he's been running this morning, you mean the
death metals not appropriate? No? Probably not okay, I'll but anyway,
I hear you have a question for mister Chris.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Mister Chris, what type of Christmas tree does Clark's South
What are the differences?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's what my notes are.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
So, yeah, real we are in the middle of Christmas
tree selling season. We carry Fraser fur, noble, fur, Douglas
fir and grand fur, and then we have one that's
called an Alpine fur noble, which is still a noble,
but it looks more like a Charlie Brown tree.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well it's it's actually what they call it unsheared correct.
Typically Christmas tree farms they nowadays typically they're mann mechanically done,
but you to be they were handed in. They share them,
they could give them haircuts to make them tight or
very good branch more in all where the Alpine noble
(02:09):
is not shared, so it has much more gapping and
is you know, some people say that Charlie Brown tree
or what I almost consider a more traditional Christmas tree
more open.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's actually what Holly and I like, that's what we
get is at more open tree. To me, that's where
you hang your ornaments exactly. You get these full trees
where do you have to shove them in there or.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They just kind of lay on the outside. Yes, Wow,
so we actually we should have written that down. So
we actually like the alpine or it's also called a
natural noble But like you said, they're not sheared right.
What are the differences in the trees.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Well, the frasier fur has the best needle retention, followed
by the noble fur.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They're they're one A and one B for sure. The
grands in Douglas. I mean it's a I don't want
to say cheap, it's more economical, but they tend to
lose their needles quick and with the weather we've been
having and thankfully it's cooler now and when it's in
the eighties, they have a hard time holding their needles.
(03:13):
And I'm going to interrupt you here real quick, but
one of the things that I was impressed by, and
you were doing it when I was still there. But
Cleggs goes to a lot of effort, I mean a
lot of effort to protect their trees. You know, it's
easy and you know people go, well, our trees are
in water all the time. Yeah, no they're not. But
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you know the trees that get stood up out where
this weather can get to them are in water bowls.
But the backups it's impossible to put them in water bowls,
so Cleggs goes through. They actually enclose an area within
shade cloth so they're protected from the sun and they're
not going to dry out as quick. So again a
(03:55):
plug for Cleggs, which I try not to do, but
I just want people to know there's a lot of
effort goes into keeping the trees as fresh as planets.
I think it's ninety shade. Yeah, I mean it's you
get inside there and you could good night night.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And this is for our competitors here in town too.
I mean it it is hard to sell Christmas trees
here when it's eighty degrees. I mean, there's nothing we
can do in the.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Sunlight and the whole thing. But anyway, you were talking
about the Grands and the Douglas when I interrupted you.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I'm sorry, but they have a little bit of a
softer branching, so heavy ornaments don't really go on those branches.
But the Noble furs and the Fraser Firs have a
better have stiff branches of your heavier ornaments, and lights
do better on those. But as I said, we usually
bring in the Douglas and the Grands, so because they're
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more affordable, right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But the thing with the Nobles and the Frasers both
is I think they're more fragrant than the other trees.
But now I have a lot of people say they
like the Douglas because of the fragance. It's got that
citrus smell. Okay, is that what it? But I like
the Fraser and the Noble. That pine Frasiers come from
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North Carolina typically the rest of the trees usually come
from the Pacific.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Northwest Washington, Oregon, that area. What most people don't realize
is they're grown on a mountaintop. It's cool all season,
and when you bring them to the south again, which
we just discussed, it's hot.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right, I mean, and they're they're the one thing nice
and Cleggs has a relationship with the growers for many,
many years. So typically they are cut and loaded. It's
not like they're laying in a lot someplace for a
week or so before they get loaded. But typically they're
cutting and loading to Kleggs's trees, so that that that
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helps with the freshness on it too well.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And if if they do hold them, because I've been
to a couple of our suppliers, if they do hold
them again, it's on a mountaintop and it's probably in
the forties, so it's like with snow we have. We
haven't received them with snow in quite some time, but
we have before.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I was actually going to ask a question kind of
like that, because you know, right now, for us around here,
it's a very chilly morning, but for these trees, I
would imagine for them, it's still warmer than what they're
used to.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, typically the trees this time of year, the trees
that haven't been cut, they're actually laid out on blankets
with sun, tannel, ocean on. But yes, so that's how
you get flocked. Very good. But no, you're right. You know,
actually in North Carolina, where a lot of our trees
come from, you know, it's it was eighteen degrees yesterday morning,
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so there is a temperature difference between there and here.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And actually I'm going to forget the name, but we
just went hike, actually we went ziplining in North Carolina,
and they were telling you about the why the Smoky
Mountains are called the Smoky Mountains because it's actually the
trees or releasing is it a gas they release and
it produces a blue haze oh you were listening, which
actually shades them from the hot sun.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
There's not another way to check out the tree. Selection
them by zipline or no, they're not anyway cooler.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
How do you best have a fresh Christmas tree?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Take your hand and grab a branch. Of course they're
not seeing me on We're on the radio, aren't we.
And you just kind of pull your hand across the
branch and if a lot of needles fall off, then
it's dry, but if most of them stay on, then
it's fresh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And one of the things that I always when I
was there, I always tried to stress to not only
the employees to talk to the customers there with, but
whenever I was dealing with the customer. Christmas trees are
ever green, but they don't hold the same needles. They
go through. They change out their needles, if I'm not mistaken,
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twice a year, and a lot of those needles get
trapped inside because they are so thick, they get trapped inside.
So a lot of times if you're about halfway down
the tree and you pull, you may get some needles
in your hand, but typically those needles were shed by
that tree before and they're just kind of stuck up
in the tree. What I tell people is always try
(08:13):
to reach to the top of the tree because Christmas
trees are going to dry out from the top down.
So if you just exactly what Chris said, grab one
of those upper branches. No, don't dank the whole thing,
but you know, just gently pull it over. And if
you come out with one needle, you've got a fresh tree.
If you come out with six or eight, yeah, you
might want to move to the next tree over another thing.
(08:36):
And this definitely I'm using my hands like Chris is,
and I have to use my hand for this. But
if you take your fore finger and your thumb and
put a needle between them, and if you squeeze that
needle and the two ends almost connect, that is an
extremely fresh tree. That's what I kind of like to
tell people. It's not fresh, it'll break or it'll slap you. Sorry,
(08:59):
but no, yea. If it doesn't break, if the two
ends almost match before it breaks, that is an extremely
fresh tree. But that's one of the things that you know,
so often people get that handful of needles in half
of them, you know, two thirds of them are brown.
Well I'm sorry, lady, but and they come bundled up
in a big old truck, so there are going to
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be needles knocked off. Even so, there are sometimes loose needles.
And you know typically at Cleggs, when they're standing in
the trees, they try to bounce them to get rid
of some of those.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And that's another way that some people check for freshness.
And that's not really the best way because as you said,
they do lose needles, So if you bounce them, that's
probably old needles stuck in there. It is old needles,
But you do want to shake it to get it
out so you don't get it all over your carpet, right, Yeah,
And that doesn't determine the freshness. Just like you said,
get your fingers and pull a pull a branch and
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see how many needles fall off.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
If you pull the tree off the reebar. You've pulled
too hard.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yes, yes, Another thing I wanted to mention is, especially
with the Fraser furs, a lot of people will see
a crack trum.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yes, that's natural.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I mean this is wood that is the inside of
a tree is wood, and it no longer has roots,
so as it dries that the cells shrink, splitting the
bark splitting the wood, and it doesn't affect how long
it's going to last. The only problem someone may have
with it is the years ago we used to use
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those rebar Christmas tree stands that you drilled a hole
in it. If you drilled a hole close to that crack,
that's when you would have a problem. But as far
as being fresh, that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, yeah, because the venation or the movement of moisture
and nutrients in this case you're hoping for moisture is
up and down. It doesn't go round. So just that
one crack doesn't mean anything. In fact, a lot of
times the fresher and moisture the trees. Moisture is that
a word that more moisture in a tree when it
was cut creates more checking or splitting. That's actually actually
(11:11):
a sign of a pretty decent tree.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And in order to keep them fresh, put fresh clean water.
Wait that, but I take a question, sorry about that.
I mean, I've heard people put aspirin in it. Put sprite,
just clean, fresh, clean water.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I I do like the addition of the sprite sugar
sugar exactly, not diet sprite. By the way, and the
reason for all of those items. The old wives tale
thing I tell people, and I've used this on the
radio before. A wives tale becomes a wives tale because
(11:53):
there's some truth to it, and if it doesn't work it,
it tends to go away. But whenever you purchase a
Christmas tree at Clegs, they're always almost always going to
make a fresh cut, and you want to get that
tree home as quickly as possible and get it in
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a bucket of water. Your tree stand with water in it,
and you want that tree not to dry out, because
once it dries out or it's been cut and shipped
to Clegs, the ends scab over, so you can't absorb moisture.
It's just like if you cut your hand or any
place on you, you scab over. Well, the tree's going
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to do the same thing. So you make that fresh
cut so that it can absorb the moisture. And actually
the aspirin in the water is sort of an anticoagulant
which prevents that cut, even in a tree, from sealing
up to so it should be able to take up
the water longer. The sprite is a sugar which can
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create more energy or absorption into the tree. Obviously, the
water is for water. A lot of people used to
use carrot syrup instead of you for the sugar, so
that's the reason for that. Do y'all have the tree preservative? Yes,
we have the preservative. Yes. I love people that go well,
I have this home. You know, if you figured out
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all the things in your homemade recipe for you know,
tree keeping it green, the little two ninety nine three
whatever it is, bottle of tree preservers a lot. And
every time you fill your water bowl you use the
tree preservative. And what sorry, Caroline, how often have y'all
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watered your tree so far? Every morning? Yes? So yeah,
and every time you do. You know, Adure sprite or
Adure tree preservative is by far the better way to go.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
And trees do take up a lot. Well, it depends
year to year. Some people filling it every day, so well,
I haven't filled it into two days. It depends on
how fresh the tree is exactly. It's going to slow
down over time, but you do want to check it
every day and put fresh water in it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Good morning, Elena, how are you hey?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
But I'm good?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
How are you fantastic? Elena? I hear you have a
little something special going on at the Cleggs Greenhouses on
Greenal Springs Road. What's up?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Yeah, okay, so stand that it is actually on its
way right now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh you got a I think I think I hear
the bells.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, you definitely hear the bells. Okay. So we've got
our points that open. Ow, it's from nine to two.
We've got uh Danna will be here for free pictures,
hot chocolate cookies, face painting with Grace Thompson, lots of points.
That is almost ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now, uh, you set up for you?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Yeah, we've sent up you out already. Okay, so let
me see what.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Else are we doing.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Actually, we're actually going to set up to Bryce and
Truro's like you know, don't.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Ooh, I might have that way. I'm pretty good over here. Yeah,
I bet it does. Our intern has a little question
for you if you don't mind, Yeah, tell me.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Do you do something to make the points set as
different colors? Or do you or are they just different varieties?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
That's a really good question. We don't actually do anything
to make them turn colors. They come in at different varieties.
You've got orange red with like glitter color, pink, let
me see white, different other like a sparkling rouge is
pink with like a glittery color to it, so yellow
we have yellow gold.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Uh in Lane, if I'm not mistaken. In the past,
you've actually helped LSU with some points at a research,
haven't you.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yes, we used to do the LSU trials with them,
where the customers who come out to the open house
would kind of rate their favorite points sets from one
to ten or one of twenty six. However, I mean
they had but uh, they're not doing those trials this year,
so we don't have the trials with them, but we
have worked them in the past.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, okay, that's that's very interesting. Actually, we visited the
other day, didn't we, Caroline. Yes, it was kind of.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Pretty well, those are very pretty.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yes, it's been a great opportunity for people in Batanos
to get out and actually see that. You know, it's
I've been in the business so long, but I still
marvel at just the beauty of your ten thousand point
set is in that greenhouse and the different varieties. There's
so many different varieties. I'm gonna put you on the
spot here, Lene. You can bring one point set at
home and only one. Which one would it be?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
For me, I'm gonna have to say it's the red glitter.
I love it, the red with the white sprinkled in there.
So that's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
All right, that's that's that's probably one of my favorites too.
When do y'all start actually planning the point setus.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
We start our point set at trees that we have.
We start those in May and then we start we
get the other ones then refinished from bruce ards green houses.
Those we get in and September, early September.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, you said a tree point set, what is that?
Speaker 6 (17:13):
That's right. We have some we have shaped as trees,
so we we start those. It's a good alternative to
Christmas tree or something else, or if you need a something,
a point set it with some height to it. It's
a very pretty and I don't know how many of
those you see around town?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, I see, I think I've seen those. And it's
something you could like, do you know, with some weather
protection at the front porch at an entrance, especially if
you were having to get together right exactly on either
side of the door. Yeah, that would be a good idea.
So beautiful and Ron and Elena do a fantastic job.
And these are points out. Elina does a good job.
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Ron kind of just stumps along. She tells them what
to do.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well, it looks really pretty today, like all set up,
and then really after this weekend it starts clearing out.
So it's kind of like a winter wonderland today, but
after this weekend it won't look the same.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Tell us again, what time y'all are going to be
there or what time the open house is?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
So we've got people coming in now, but it's the
open house is from nine to two and Santa will
be here from nine to two to take pictures. Or
if you don't need to take a picture with Santa,
that's fine, We'll still be here. And we've got plenty
of points. That is, hot chocolate, cookies.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
All things, and donuts.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I heard that's right, donuts, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And I want to stress that this is the one
opportunity that the public can purchase directly from the Greenhouse,
if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Exactly, we're sort of a secret operation. Not many people
know about us, and uh so here's your chance my
end visit us.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
With the thousands and thousands of people that listen to
this show, it's probably not much of a secret anymore. Yeah, anyway,
nine to two today, Santa Cookies and cocoa and just an.
It's actually, like I said, I brought my granddaughters out
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there the other day and they were actually extremely impressed.
It's a great opportunity if you're looking for a little
something to do this morning before you go shopping, or
maybe is a little thing at late, you know, as
it's before two to go by. It's kids really are
in awe of all that, and I was to it.
I've seen it before, but again, good luck with it,
and thank you Lena, Lena Fennel Clegg's Greenhouses on Greenwald
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Springs Road. I'm trying to pull my phone went dead here. Yeah,
I'm trying to find the address once you're six four
or five Greenold Springs Road. So oh yeah, right, all right,
thank you, thank you Elena. And that again Clegg's point
set of open house from nine to two today Greenoald
Springs Road, right next to the Cleggs nursery there on
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green Wald Springs So stop by, h Like I said,
it's a great opportunity to for kids to see a
how it's grown in just the mass of red white,
just the colors. Yeah, the colors are amazing, amazing, So
that does open up phone lines. Gives called four six sets,
four nine nine WJBO.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Tell me how to properly water a point SETA.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
You want to water the soil. You don't want to
water the foliage. You don't want to water the mud.
I've been to Baton Rouge too long. New Orleans came
out of me. Yeah, So you want to water the mud,
but use and you want to water enough where it
comes out the bottom. So make sure you have it
in a saucer so it doesn't run all over your
wooden floor or your carpet. But you don't want to
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put a tablespoon or an ice cube or.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
An ice cube that's really not could be enough.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's good for succulents or Christmas characters or something like that.
But you want to water the soil, not the foliage.
Volage that's French fancy. If a big big if right here.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
If you have foil wrapping on that point set when
you get done watering it, take it about ten minutes
after you finish watering it, take it out of that
foil wrapping and make sure there's no water standing in there,
because you can if you have a lot of moisture
stuck in there, you can actually start to get root
root right. I know a lot of people will take
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that foil off or speed cover as we call them,
right excuse me, and they'll put it in their sink
and water in their sink and let it drain for
about ten minutes, then put it back in the in
the foil wrap. That's a great, a great way to
do it. But don't let your points set a dry out.
If your point set of starts to droop, you might
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as well dispose of it. It's not ever, it's there's
several different types of plants that that's the case with
once they really get dry there. If best case scenario,
they're going to have a whole bunch of yellow leaves
which you're going to cast off, so you gonna have
all these little red bracks with no leaves below it.
But so try to water and it's impossible for us
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to There's someone in the audience with their hand up, Yes, sir,
you in the front row.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Well, I don't mean to interrupt, but but you did.
Chris said something, why do points set? He has come
in those foil wraps. It's decoration, okay, I know if
it's served a purpose. No, it's it's strictly for aesthetics.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Otherwise you're gonna look at a green pot.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But all the time for other plants. Yeah, it's just decorative.
Oh okay.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Is it just because this time of year you want
more of a decorative plant?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Of course. There was some Lady Martha story Martha Stewart.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I thought there was some super secret thing that it
helped the points that you do something.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It makes it feel christmasy. If you don't have the
foil on it, it kind of thinks it's Thanksgiving me.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Oh okay, So like you're ugly Christmas sweater. Basically it's
the equivalent of that.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Man, it is ugly. It's a beer shirt. It's not
even a Christmas shirt anyway, Turn in training, Miss Caroline.
Good morning, good morning. So apparently the the intern is
now turned into a teenager and it's sleeping late. She's
all hopped up in the court. That's right. Are you
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okay over there? She's still asleep. I know. Anyway, give
us call four five, two six, that's four nine nine
WJBO if you missed the first two segments. Had a
great conversation with the lenn of Elena Fennell at our
Color division where they're having their Christmas points set an
open house. One opportunity in the year to go buy
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the greenhouse and actually purchase directly from the growers. So
great opportunity, great opportunity, bring your kids by. Santa will
be there, hot chocolate and cookies, and just the opportunity
to see all the different colors and just the massive
color those points set is.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And one of the things I want to touch on.
You touched on it, but about the point set of
trees or even just point settus.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
If you put them out on your front porch by
your front.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Door, which is a great idea, but they need to
be protected from the cold.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
If it goes below forty degrees, bring them in something.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And these are native to Mexico, so they like it hot,
kind of like avocados.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There you go, avocados in Mexico. Let's see what happened.
What's going on with Gary? Good morning, Gary, Welcome to
news Radio eleven fifty wjbo's line Garden Show. What can
we do for you? Yeah, what a lovely day.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I have a peach tree up in about five years ago,
but now it's getting called and wide, When can I
prune it and what.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
To the cutoff. Typically on peach trees, we prune after
we've picked the fruit. And typically obviously any low branches,
say below three four feet, I'd probably remove those just
for convenience of being able to work around the tree.
And if you go up into the felicienas or even
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up into the rusting area, they actually have what looks
like lawnmowers and once they go once they get done picking,
they raise them up to about six I think it's
about eight feet and they just mow over the top
of them. So pruning on peach trees is to keep
them in line so that they so that you can
pick the fruit. Mostly that's the only reason you really
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need to prune. Also, sometimes if they're getting real thick,
you'll want to prune some of the inner branches just
so you get better airflow. But again, most of that
pruning is done right after you get done pickings, so
it's too late to do it now. Sometime in late summer, right, yeah,
Typically you're picking in late May or early June, so
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I would do it after that. If you prune right now,
you're removing possible fruit so I think I would wait.
All right, thank you very much, great tone, you too.
Pruning of plants, we're still a little early on most
of that. As far as trees, it's been so hot. Yeah,
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it's been so hot. They really haven't defilated yet, deflated defilated.
I just got a bad I was always told.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
With fruit trees, peaches, plums, you want almost a wine
glass shape, right. You want it to kind of come
out and have your your middle, your center of your
tree kind of empty so you can get air circulation
so we don't get a fungus.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That wasn't a bad look. That was an impressed look.
Oh okay, defilated them. I knew what he meant, but
which I would be really worried if I would.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, most of your deciduous trees have not really defiliated
much yet, and typically you want to do most of
that pruning once the sap has gone down, which is
usually January early February. And one of the things, since
we're discussing pruning right now, that so many people don't realize.
I think once you tell them, they go, oh, yeah,
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that makes sense. But if there's a brand, especially on
a newly planted tree, that is three foot off the ground.
That branch is always going to be at three foot
off the ground. It's not going to magically move up
the tree. Trees grow from the top. They don't grow.
They don't elongate like humans do, where you know, you
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start out with your legs a foot long and by
the time your whatever height you are there three foot long.
That doesn't work in trees. They only grow from the top.
So when doing pruning, especially on younger trees, consider that
with some of the lower branches, that that branch is
always going to be height wise exactly where it is.
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So that's one of the things to be And also
you want to look for forking in trees, especially your
oak trees, your large shade trees. You want to prevent
any forking that is occurring, which is two branches main
branches coming out headed up at the same level, because
that will be a weak spot as a tree matures.
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And we're talking about trees. You also do not want
to prune shrubs right now, especially isaiahs and isaias, should
have been pruned after they bloomed, just like the fruit
trees in June July July. It's probably a little too
late because aias have already set their already set their buds.
And you don't want to cut susanquids because they're blooming
right now. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
But even your sweet olives and holly bushes. I mean,
if you cut them now, they're not going to well.
They may put on new growth. If we have another
warm spell, which we're probably going to have. You want
to wait till the spring, when it warms up, prune them,
fertilize them, and then they'll flush out for you.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know, I'm going to make another plug right here.
We're talking about again the points set of open house
at the green or Springs location with the points set
as in all if you're going by Klegs, any of
the Kleggs, especially Seegan Lane to get your Christmas tree,
take a minute or two and go out into the
plant yard. The susankuas are directly behind the Christmas trees anyway,
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and just blooms. I was there a Wednesday and it
is so beautiful with all the different colors. I mean,
they're they're reds, whites, pinks. Typically you don't have any
you know, like the points set as you got the
yellows and the whites and all that, but still it's
so pretty with all of the suscanncles. And if you've
ever considered a sassaank, well, now it would be a
great time to go vibe because you can get you know,
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dark pink or a light pink, or a dark red
or you know a light red, whatever it is. So
it's a great opportunity and it's just nice to walk
around and look.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
At Yes, they are pretty, even the I'm gonna say
leaf litter, I guess it's the petal litter all on
the ground.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It looks beautiful. Yeah, we have at our house we
have some screen of the white I can't remember which was.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Know.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
The other one sets sets an acora, that's a geka
and they have already started to drop, so it looks
like snow underneath them. Right, I'm gonna put some reindeer
out there anyway, give us a call for six. It's
for nine nine w JBO. Do you have any other questions, Caroline?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
What betting plants are available to plant now?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So we have a good selection of fall betting plants.
We have pansies, fiolas, snap dragons, dianthus, petunias, ornamental cabbage,
and kale listen fox glove, and we even have poppies.
I actually went and walked around them.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I could tell you how to listen. None of their
listeners could until I said something. But definitely time to
be planting your pansies. And one of the things I've
talked to Alan when Alan Owens, who's on the show
here seldomly anymore, but sometimes, but what no one can
explain to me. Take eight dollars the cup of a
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star price of a Starbucks cup of coffee. Buy a
bag of blood meal incorporated into soil when you're planning
your especially your pansies, and I will guarantee you a
better color to your blooms. And I have no idea
why that is what it is about blood meal, but
it does definitely improve the color. It brightens the color
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of the pansy.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Blooms, pansy pansies this time of the year, and then
then the spring. Kalladiums kaladiums love the blood meal too. Yeah,
that you get a bigger leaf and again more coloration
to the leaf. But one of the I think underutilized
plants that I'm seeing more and more with some of
the newer varieties of the dianthus you brought up. That
is a you can You can do a red and
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white and have a real good Christmas theme with the diantis.
The one thing about dianthus is you really and this
is true with any of your annuals, but you really
want to try to keep them dead headed, which means
prune the old blooms off when they start to fade.
Annuals want to go to seed.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That's their whole purpose in life is they want to
grow flour, go to seed, drop the seed, and reproduce themselves.
And once they've successfully done that, my life's over. I
might as well die. I might as well die. So
if you keep them from going to that seed, they
are going to last much longer for you and actually
obviously look prettier because you don't have all those brown,
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ugly flowers. And if you're married, you probably it's a
great relief to go and get rid of the tension.
Go out there and pop those little heads off.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So and with the dianthus and the pansies and Viola's
and Viola's just kin to the pansy, it's got a
smaller flower, they'll bloom, I mean all winter, right, the
snap dragons will kind of slow down, but they are
going to give a show in the spring, and don't
come in the spring looking for snap dragons that we're
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not going to have them. So they need to be
planted now and they will give you a great show
that and to some extent, petunias they are photosensitive.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
They have to have so many hours of daylight to
actually bloom, and once we get into the real short
day length, we just don't have quite enough. Now they
are with the snap dragons, like I think it's a
solstice series, they've reduced that time period. But again, most
of the snap dragons here, like you said, Chris, in
January February, you're gonna have minimal bloom. Yes, and I
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have got too correct myself. I have made a big mistake.
My wife is usually the one that shows points those
out to me. But you want to prune your fruit
trees now in January and early February. I do not
know what I was thinking about, but I would have
been willing to lose my house that I had to.
But again, hopefully Gary, you are still listening. I do apologize,
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but I did give out bad information. You do want
to be pruning in January early February on those peach trees.
But Caroline, you got another question.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Can we still plant vegetables now?
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yes, yes, we have a good selection of fall vegetables
that you can plant now, cool season collared greens, Swiss
charred with I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Not really a big Swiss chard to eat. Why are you?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Are you much more so than some of the other broccoli,
colorflower cabbage. I hate to say this, but we had
tomatoes on the bench. I had to go ask Braiden's like,
why do you have tomatoes? Apparently color a vision had them. Well,
but if you've done a plant them, put them in
a green.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
House exactly put them in. And actually this year I'm
glad you asked that, Caroline, because we have been so warm, hot,
up until what literally this last week or the week
before that, our soil temperatures have been at a point where,
especially a lot of the seed crops you would do, carrots.
I was talking to mister Johnny about carrots and he
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planted them when he normally would and had zero germination
because of how warm things have been. And that's for
a lot of your lettuce varieties. As warm as we've been,
they'll bolt, which once a lettuce starts to bolt, mean
it wants to go to flowers, it turns bitter, so
you literally have to get rid of the plant. So
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now I hate to say, this is a time to plant,
because we have finally cooled off for a lot of
these vegetables.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
So Johnny says, I can plant carrots now because I
missed my I thought I missed moment.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
No you haven't. I planted. I actually planted our carrot
patch ten days ago, maybe two weeks ago so, and
I got very good germination at that point. So yeah,
you can definitely plant your carrots right now.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
And it was probably I guess about two weeks ago.
We received our onion sets. So you have onions, yes,
so they're moving quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I need to get mine now. That is a that
is another neat crop, especially if you have a limited space,
you know you I have cinder blocks around my garden.
I plant them in the little holes of the cinder blocks.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
So last year was the first time I did onions,
and I was blown away.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean that was just awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I mean they were huge. I planted the vidalia onions.
They were as big as Holly's head and she's got
a big head.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But the biggest thing with onions, and again I'm going
to is we sell a product at Clegg's ammonium sulfate.
They like an acidic soil, and they are they're teenage boys.
They want a lot of fertilizers. So at least if
nothing else, you know, calcium nitrate would be something else.
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Just you want to put a nitrogen source on them.
And one of my good friends that has moved away,
he grew onions every year and he the first of
every month he would go out and fertilize pretty heavily
with a nitrogen product. And like you said, he could
get some huge onions. So that's and for all of
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your fall crops, a calcium nitrate is extremely important because
almost all of your fall crops, as opposed to your
spring crops, you're producing foliage. You're eating the foliage. You
pointed out, the Swiss charred, the collared greens. You know,
all that mustard, mustard greens, let us kale. All that.
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You are producing vegetation, and you need that nitrogen to
produce the vegetation. So cabbage, what is cabbage? It's just
a rolled up bunch of leaves. So you want as
much and you can go every two weeks in the fall.
It's important in the spring too, tomatoes always are blooming
off a new gross. You want to keep your tomatoes blooming.
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Calcium nitrate again. But you know, Cleggs does a great
job of putting signs out. You know, for the pansies,
they should have signs on the table use blood meal,
the vegetables should have the used calcium nitrate. Oh, they
just want us to buy something else, now they don't.
Cleggs is trying their best to give out information that
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is useful, that will help you grow. They're not. Yes,
we would love for you to buy you know, seven
different things, but you don't need to buy your vegetable
bat plants, buy your calcium nitrate and you're going to
be very successful. They do. You still have the little
handouts there that they can take with them. Yes, you
know that tells you exactly what to do how to
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do it. You know, mister Johnny is the gardening expert
in Baton Rouge and he's put most of that stuff
together himself, and it's there for a reason. It's there
to help you. So you read the signs, follow it.
What's what's calcium nitrate right now about ten bucks a bag,
and that was yeah, we're in there. Yeah it's a
it's approximately ten bucks, and it's going to produce. You know,
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it's going to well produce more than the ten dollars
that you're paying for it. Unlike the fence I had
to put around my broccoli plants. I figured it out, Chris,
it's going to be forty dollars ahead of broccoli. Bunny
rabbits are deer that's eating them. We weren't sure.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
We think it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
We think it might have been rabbits, but we also
were concerned it was squirrels. Actually, so we had we
did mister Johnny and I. He came up with an
idea for us because my wife didn't and I understand
why I'm not saying anything. We wanted to use burden
etting on the ground. So we built a nice little
fence and put the burden eating at the top of it,
but no bedding plants right now, excellent time to plant
(39:13):
your cool season, your pansies, your snap dragons. Snapdragons behind
pansies is just a beautiful combination. Yes, just really is
show stopping in the spring. Vegetable plants you're not late.
If you plant your carrots, Chris, go right do it.
You know, cleagg sells a rainbow mix. If you have kids,
(39:34):
pick up the rainbow mix. It's it's kind of like
an Easter egg hunt. You never know what color of
the carrot's going to be until you pull it out
of the ground.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Does your regular orange, white, A red, A pur purple
that's really neat? A yellow yep, So that's something else
to do.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Funnly, I always try to, you know, with all the
young families out there, you know, get the kids involved
in gardening. If it is, you know, just a container
full of pansies with a couple of snap dragons in
the middle something, then they're going to have fun with it. So,
I mean we should be getting potatoes in about another month. Yeah, yeah,
So Caroline, thank you very much. Did an excellent job.
(40:10):
Did you have a good time. Are we going to
go by the open house on Green Springs Road the
Points at Us? Probably? I have to work. I'm going
to miss it. And thank you Chris and I as always,
thank you Jeremy. You've been listening to news radio eleven
fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. We are Clegg's Nursery.
We are Baton Rouge's Independent Garden Center. We will see
(40:31):
you next Saturday morning at eight o'clock. I have a
great weekend. Go Tigers. Merry Christmas.
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