September 20, 2025 • 42 mins
With the official start of Fall looming, we're talking the changing of the seasons this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Scott and Jessica from Clegg's Nursery!
We also go over the fall items coming into the stores and take plenty of caller questions - including your asks on the right soil temps for putting out pre-emergents , plant suggestions to place beside a fence, care for citrus trees in pots, and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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We also go over the fall items coming into the stores and take plenty of caller questions - including your asks on the right soil temps for putting out pre-emergents , plant suggestions to place beside a fence, care for citrus trees in pots, and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns,
all are questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine two six. Good morning, baton Rouge's
a lovely day here in the Capitol City. Glad that
you're tuned in listening to the WBO Lawn and Garden Show.
I'm Scott Ricca with Cleggs here with Jessica Froisy. Good morning.
(00:40):
I've never heard that name before. It's an interesting name.
Where's that come from? It's French French. That's cool. Cool. Well,
we're here this morning for about an hour. We're gonna
talk about gardening material. If you have any questions, please
pick up the phone and give us call it four
nine that's four nine nine WJBO, and we'ld be man.
(01:00):
We've already got somebody calling in right now. Yeah, we've
got Jeff Jeremy Porcine in the on at the control
board making us sound as best as he can. I
don't give him a lot to work with, I'm sure
Jessica being here will be an upgrade for me. So uh,
but we're gonna we're gonna have fun. Pick up the phone,
(01:20):
give us a call. You know, it's a change of season.
Things are going on. We've got new plants starting to
become available. We've got new stock of betting plants, new shrubs,
just you know, just all kinds of stuff. And we're
gonna go ahead and go to our first caller and
hopefully that'll start a long stream of people calling in
(01:43):
this morning again four nine six, and we're gonna go
to Bob. Bob, good morning, thanks for calling the w
j BO Lawn and Garden Show.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Good morning, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Sure, what's up?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So just an easy one. I think I've already parked
my pre Emerged for the winter, and I have an
Apple on my phone that tells me like the soil
tip right now is running around eighty one or eighty
two here in Baton Rouge. I would like to put
out the pre Emerge, you know, is at the optimum time,
(02:17):
and I think the soil tip probably is a little
high right now for that. How what soil tip do
you think you need to get down to for the
pre emerged to go down and have its optimum duration
of treatment.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What pre emersion are you putting out? Dimension?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know, I'm driving in the car and I already
bought that, and I don't I don't have that in
front of me.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Unfortunately, Yeah they have, you know, they they don't just
work like two or three days. I mean, they've got
a Spanish time that they work. If I was going
to make an error, I would always make that error
on putting it out early. And so mid September is
a good time to start. As a matter of fact,
(02:59):
I'm and this is if you're using dimension, this is
the wrong purpose side. But if like you had spur weed,
the stickers sometimes they sprout this early, you'd need a
different herbicide premerging herbicide for stickers, if for anybody who's listening.
But I would go ahead and put out my pre
mergent now. And if you're using the dimension, that can
(03:22):
go both in the lawn and the flower bed. And
a matter of fact, the winter riser with weed prevnter
is a blending of a fertilizer with dimension, and that's
unlike a weed and feed. The weed and feed has
piller thevation. So it can actually go in the flower beds,
(03:53):
whereas the weed and feeds cannot.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So let me ask you another question real quick. All
I got you.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
So in terms of.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I've been waiting, I've been waiting for us to get
into a rain period to put it out. You know,
we've no i'd started, We've had Yeah, we've had some storms,
but they've just popped up and never been forecasts.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Right, But I don't think if I'm not mistaken, and
maybe Jessica, I don't know if you've read through that level.
I don't actually remember on the dimension label saying whether
it needs to be watered in. Now, if it's a
fertilizer with the dimension blended in it, the recommendation would
be to put out the fur, making sure that the
(04:42):
soil is not dry before you put it out. On
the label that will tell you to sometimes water two
or three days before application, which as dry as we've been,
that might not be a bad idea here, that's not
normally something we need to do. But then watering in
will start to release the fertilizer. I don't know that
(05:06):
it makes the dimension work any faster or slower, but
I would I would go ahead and put it out
and water it. For a different reason, A lot of
people wait too late to put out their winterizing furtilisers.
This is the pre winter furtilaser. This fertilizer. A lot
(05:31):
of people come in in late October November and they
want to winterize. Well, it's too late. At that time.
You're putting out a furtilizer which is helping or trying
to promote a change in the cellular structure of the grass,
is trying to make the cellular walls thicker, so it
would be more resistance to bursting under freeze temperatures. That
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takes time, and the plant needs to be actively growing
for that to happen. If you wait too late to
get this started, you will not be able to have
enough time for that cellular change to occur, or maybe
not at all if you're doing it when the grass
is already starting to go dorm it. So I would
put it out now.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, Do you think that On a different tangent, last question,
do you think that it does any good this time
of year to like try to put selsius on Virginia
button we?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, I mean yes. This is one of the highest
seed production times late summer, so I would and at
this time, at this time of the year, it's one
of the few times because sometimes it just really goes
into like monster mode and starts to smother more turf.
(06:49):
That's the only time of the year that I would
recommend taking a rake or something and just literally ripping
it off the soil surface. It doesn't kill, but it
can slow down the suffocation of turf grass if it
is that bad in your situation.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's just that's the worst. BBW is the
absolute worst.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, it's in the top three bad weeds. Yeah, I
will tell you, we're just talking Virginia button weed, torpedo grass,
and I don't I don't know what i'd put in
the third slot, but yeah, terrible, terrible thing to have.
But the celsius or the MSM turf both great products
for that. And the celsius as that's a term for
(07:32):
temperature range that gives you the idea that it's safe
to use in a higher temperature range, which it is
if used properly.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, let me conclude by giving a shout out to
Johnny at the Segan Lane location. He is just always
a wealth of knowledge and a great a great guy
to use as a resource.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He Yes, he's a walking encyclopedia. We are so lucky
to have him here. So all right, Bob, have a
great day, thank you, all right too, all right, bye bye.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Had an off air question asking for your thoughts speaking
of pre emergence pro diamine, Whether any thoughts on that,
any opinions.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That's a lawn for your lawns. Yeah, it's just got
listening for a lot of use. Yes, that's a that's
a good herberside. But some of those things are not
Some are more costly. Uh, some are not always available
in larger bag size for like a law and application.
(08:31):
But most times lawns are much bigger than a flower beds.
That's a good product, I mean. And there are some
things like snapshot is a commercial one. Well that's available
in the prem brand. So yes, excellent herbicide that's used
probably a little bit more on a professional level. Good good,
(08:54):
good product. Well, so I got all excited seeing that
extra phone call come in while talking to Bob and thinking,
all right, we're on a roll. But nobody else has
picked up the phone and used that number yet. What's that?
What's the number, Jessica?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Uh, it is four two six, all right, that's four
nine w JB.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah. So, uh, let me say so at Seagan, you
do a lot of the colors.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Ummy, So I we're mainly in the betting house, but
I also kind of taken over all the house plants.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So what has has the range of material in the
betting house been changing?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, so what are we getting into now?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
We've started getting snap dragons, We've got pionsies violas, We've
got dianthus.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Some different petunias.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
We've got a bunch of different petunias.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We have some colendulas at Greenville the other day, or
as they say, across the pond, some calendulas in the
caliber Tooa. Yeah, which looks like a little tiny petunia. Yeah,
in a pretty wide range of colors. Pretty pretty great
for a hanging basket, by the way.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, we've got tons of moms and ornamental.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Peppers, which ormond pepper. Can't you eat those? Why do
they call them ornamental?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
So I technically you can eat them, They're just not
very tasty.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They're hot. They are hot. That's what my mama used
to use to do her pepper vinegar. Yeah, because the
pepper vinegar jar would look very pretty with all the
different color of peppers. But yes, they are absolutely edible,
and most of them are absolutely hot, with the exception
of the chili chili see chi ll y like burr
(10:42):
and chili, So chili chili is only Malbourne that I'm
aware of out there. But I don't do anything hot anymore. So, however,
I did have an employee pop one in his mouth
after work the other day and like miss Scott, those
are hot, Yeah, they are so yeah. So now what
do you think about pansies in the ground right now?
(11:03):
I'm a little leary to put them out in the
bed right now. It's just very hot still. Even containers though, yeah,
but not so much. The biggest issue is a soul
passage and when the soul's warm for the for the pansies.
And so if you were going to do pansies, I
might do containers, but I don't know that I plant
them in the in the beds right now. Yeah, And
(11:25):
we're a change of uh betting plants for gardening right now.
We've got a change going into We got the cabbages
and broccoli and cauliflowers and all that stuff going on.
That's a big change. Also, Yeah, we've got another caller. Wow,
it's K. Let's see what K has this morning. K.
(11:45):
Thanks for calling the Wjbola on a garden show. What's up?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Hello? This is K. Did you call me? Call for me?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You are on the air.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Thank you. I have a fence road between my property
in the neighbors with a six foot privacy fence. I
have a burnham planted there that I'm having to remove.
I'd like to know what to replace it with. I
want something evergreen. I don't want a shrubbery row. I
(12:16):
want it individual small trees or bushes that would grow
into trees like the viburnum did so.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Do you want them full all the way to the
ground or not?
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Not necessarily, But I don't want it pruned up like
these popsicle hollies that are all over train.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That's a very formal look, and I am a very
informal person. So yeah, Well, especially.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
In my backyard, my backyard, as I call it, a
winter woodland shade garden. But there is sun on this
particular end of the property.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What do you think that's enough sun to grow these things?
I'm gonna throw out the old old answer, K, And
I don't expect you to even like this one lagustrum.
But uh so we'll let that pass as fast as
I said it. But that would be evergreen. You could
leg them up. They could make a small tree form,
(13:13):
you know, and you could space.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Is there's already a lagustrum on the fence road behind
me in the neighbors property. I don't mind the bloom
of the pollen or any of that. They're just I
don't know. We used to have cherry laurel where I
once live. Do you not do cherry Laurel and.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Louisiana Cherry laurel is available, but most of what's available
is a compact cherry laurel, so it doesn't grow quite
the same. And well, you don't want a wet spot.
They don't. They don't do with our heavy soil when
it stays too wet. So you'd have to make sure
it was a good drainage area as well, and that
might be available. We could look into that if that's
something you'd like us to look into at the store.
(13:56):
But other options, Jessica.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
What about a camelle? Yeah, that's a sink was Yeah.
The communities to say that'd be a.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
You're talking my language. I have fifty five Japonicas and
hybrids in my yard, and I have a number of sucinquests,
but I need I would like to know how to
how to get big ones.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, we're just getting our stock in. It's hard to
get those in an overly large size. What we would
have coming in would be maybe in a I might
have a few left from last year and maybe a
seven foot range. The new ones will be a little
shorter than that, but we do have some taller growing
varieties that come in sets. A gecko, which would be
(14:40):
a white cotton candy, is a you know, a medium pink,
A double sets a gecko as a single one.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
I like cotton candy. Yeah, so but the seven foot
would be fine, but I probably need eight.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Or nine of them, yeah, or even four.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Or five foot. I can't wait for a three foot
to glow. Seventy six years old.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, well you sound awfully young, and if you're out
there doing that kind of gardening, I think you'll probably
work a lot of us in the ground. So no, so, yeah,
we are just starting to bring a lot of the
thecinc was in the thecink was usually our stock at
the store in the fall, just prior to blooming. And
we have in the last few weeks brought in several
(15:24):
hundred at every location. Uh, A lot of the ones
that are coming in initially, or some of the shishi
gashira which are shorter, but uh, some of the taller
growing varieties will be in. We have them in ten
gallon containers. Uh. You can get them what we call
full to ground or we get the ones that now
instead of calling them a leggy, we call them multi
trunk form. So, yeah, I don't mind that.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
But I love sheshi gashira. I have it in four
places and I have some sheishi's over six feet tall
and people don't believe me.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I believe that I got that.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah so, but yeah, that would be an option. There
are some hollies that would grow you could do, like
needle point holly that would be evergreen. You could you know,
you could leg up the bottom a little bit if
you want. They usually average like in a six or
eight foot range evergreen. If you have the female, it
would produce berries, males will not. It's a good pollinator
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plant in the springtime. The honey bees love them.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's nice, shiny green, easy to grow the same not
the same scale. But if you're going to have a
problem with holly like that, there's going to be a scale.
Not t scale like what you might have on your communities,
but yeah, but nonetheless scale.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
So okay, well I might have a look at the holly.
And I'm very I'm very bent towards the Susan was
because of what else I have there and as long
as I could get them big enough and enough of
the same variety.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh yeah, we'll have We'll have Bouku cake. By the way,
you are listening to the WJBO Lawn and Garden Show,
we have Jessica Freisy you got it here, who is
at the Seging Lane store and you do a range
of duties there. You do a lot of ordering and
(17:18):
organization and keeping up with all the houseplants and betting plants,
which is not a small tasket seeging, is it? Y'all
get in stuff throughout the week a lot. You know.
I was usually at the Green Springs location. And the
point set is that are grown at Color Division are
starting to be stocked into the greenhouses, and that is
(17:41):
just something that's outstanding and beautiful to watch. Never forget
the first time I ever saw them start to turn color.
I was doing a job up in the roof of
the greenhouse and over a number of days, it was
like somebody lit a match and it was just like
a wildfire spreading. It was really cool to see. Which
we always have our open house. It's the Saturday following
(18:03):
Thanksgiving this year, so mark down our new calendar. Every
store should have a little flyer up to where people
can see it. But that's an extraordinary thing to see.
I guess I'm starting to promote a little early. We've
got Santa claus Is there so you can take pictures,
and we have we grow about ten thousand point sat
so it's like a half an acre of all color,
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all kinds of colors and sizes, and it's just it's
a sight to see. If you're interested in seeing a
greenhouse full of color. That's market calendar the Saturday following.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Thanksgiving, So it Saturday, November twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Ah oh oh, I'm glad you're prepared with that. May Yeah,
it's on our feast book.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
We have an event page if you want to go
check it out.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So we talked with our last color. We kind of
talked about some of the sussanquas, which is a type
of camellia, And she had mentioned that she has Chamelia
japonicas already in her yards. That's usually a bigger flowered chameleia,
and it can have a longer range of or fairly
long range. A lot of times they used to classify
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them in a early, mid and late season community japonicas.
Most of the sussankas are fairly early, but there are
some at bloom a little later, like a spring festival.
Is gorgeous. Niplum's late. It's a hybrid that's a gorgeous,
gorgeous one. But all of those things are just starting
to come in. And she had mentioned that she has
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a bunch of sishis, which is such a common shrub
in Baton rouge, and a lot of people don't know
what it is. And I love the Kamillia sussankas because
they start giving you color when most of the other
stuff has stopped giving you color. So they usually start
well about the early November and they can go through
(19:56):
into like a sishi. I've seen them go in from
early no November all the way in through January with
color brightening up the yard during that winter time when
it might be a little dreary or whatever. And they're
actually a good plant for pollinators too. Bees and an
oddly enough wasp will go in that. Not that that's
going to promote the wasp in the yard, but it's good.
So we've had somebody asking about the winter Riser and
(20:22):
so it's a you know, and you mentioned to me
in our commercial break that butsch says we should change
the name to Fallarizer to get people to realize that
you don't wait until winter to do it. You're trying
to get it prepared for winter, which which takes time.
So again we want to get that winter Riser fertilizer
(20:44):
out now because there's a cellular change we're trying to
promote with the grass. And then if you have and
and weeds are kind of like betting plants, you have
your warm season betting plants, I think you know, all
kinds off and then winter you got your pansies and
snaps and petunias, something that like it hots, something like
(21:05):
it cool. Well, there's weeds just like that. And so
the winter Riser with the weed preventer will help stop
a lot of the cool season weeds from germinating. And
you know, it always amazes me when people come in
in like February and all this clover just got started.
(21:29):
Clover sprouts in the fall. So that's right, it's been
there for a long time. It's just now started to bloom.
So a lot of things that you fight with in
the spring, if you were to treat it in the fall,
you will not have the problem that you normally have
in the spring. Clover, handbit, chick weed, all of those
(21:51):
things could be treated now much more effectively than later.
That cocktail that we spread winter yeah, I mean, well
it's not just winter weed. I mean you could. You know,
we use the achazine, the weed free zone and the
spreadersticker that is an excellent, excellent mixed to use in
(22:12):
the fall. Also, now we'd use that more like in
November once we've already got some sprouting going on. But
it will it will just knock out so much of
that stuff that we don't notice normally until spring. So
it's a great way to get going. What else is
going on?
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Pumpkins?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Pump Oh man, we have some gorgeous pumpkins ones.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, Tom said, we have twenty five different varieties of
pumpkins at our stores.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Anywhere, from little ones that will fit in the palm
of your hand the ones that won't. We got urge
ones and yeller ones and white ones. They got all
kinds of stuff. It's the wardy ones, the wardy ones. Yeah.
How about the ones that look like Cinderella's carriage. Yeah yeah, yeah,
there's it's unique and we are fully loaded with that
(23:02):
and corn stalks and hay bales and all that stuff.
But it's that time of the season also, so just
uh just loaded up. So thanks for everybody that's listening
here at a WJBO lawn and Garden show on Radio Dial.
My name is Scott Ricca. I'm here with Jessica frozy F.
(23:26):
I did it right twice and now I'm messed up
the third time. They say third times a charm, but
I think I do that. I did it backwards.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You just mentioned your age a few Uh. Anyway, we're here. Uh,
We've got probably another half hour close to it, and
we would love to help you. If you had any questions,
you could pick up the phone call four five six
as four w JBO. I'm gonna take a nap and
(23:55):
Jessica's gonna take care of you know, since I'm old,
you know, I can't do it more than about thirty
forty as their time. So you know, if you hear
some snoring in the background. So, uh, we've already got
a caller and I would like to encourage, and we've
got lots of phone lines, so just pick up the phone.
You got to keep Jeremy occupied. Also, he gets bored
in there, but he does give some time to pick
out better music. So so uh, all right, let's go
(24:17):
to John and see what's going on. John, good morning,
and thanks for calling the WJBO lawna garden show. What's up?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Good morning, Scott.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Hey, John, got it from those trust sardinias.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think it might be too wet.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
The branches and leaves are cutting round.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah. If there's too dry on the frost proof, usually
you'll lose a lot of the interior leaves first they'll
turn bright yellow and start to drop, but the outer
the terminal points are usually okay. But you're getting brown
from Yeah, that sounds like it's too wet. So John,
you've got that on an irrigation system or you're doing
it by hand or what it's hand?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Their foundation plannings.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
Uh, huh, and I know, we'll we transplanted one and
the soil the play was really wet there, but like.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I said, it's uh.
Speaker 10 (25:20):
Sporadically different branches are turning brown.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So any any action other than the backing off on.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
The watering, yeah, back off on the water. I would
not do any real fertilization right now until I saw
positive growth back on the gardenia, which this late in
the season you should maybe see a little bit, but
not a lot. Of course, you don't want to promote
a lot of growth going into winter on that because
it would lessen the cold tolerance. So yeah, I would
(25:49):
just back off on that watering at most, especially if
that area holds if it's a you know, got a
lot of water holding capacity there, twice a week probably
slow thorough and then let it dry in between. It's
what I would do, John, can you can you Is
(26:10):
it too much trouble to go out and lift that
with their shovel to see what the roots are doing,
the root tips or not? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, So yeah, I would just you know,
manage my water until I see positive growth back, and
then you could once you see a little positive growth,
you could do a very mild water soluble, knowing that
that won't last that long, and so to put on more, well,
(26:46):
that'd be fine. Root simulator has a fertilizer in that.
Most people don't realize that. So yeah, uh. The quirk
of that is that, of course you're putting it out
with water, so that'd be part of your watering regime. Okay,
So all right, John, hope you have a great day.
And that was a very good question. You know, most people,
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I don't so often, and I don't know if you me.
When somebody comes in, I just ask question, question questions,
you know, so quite often they'll tell me, oh, I've
got I've got an irrigation system in And when they
tell me that, I almost always ask them, well, how
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do how do you have a set to come on?
Did that happen to you? What kind of answer do
you get? Most or very.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Frequently, either they have it on for a very little
time that's not really gonna actually water everything, or they
have it on for way too long that's gonna you know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'm mostly on the first one. I say, Oh, it
comes on ten minutes every day. Yeah, that's a horrible
way to water. Everybody's listening. You want longer duration so
it soaks deeper deep water yet and then you want
less frequency so that you're letting air reinvade the soil structure.
Because they have a healthy root system, you have to
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have a balance between that moisture and air for the
roots to be healthy. And when you're watering it every
day like that shallow, you're encouraging a shallow root system
where they can't take care of themselves very well. And
you're not allowing air to get back into the soil
very effectively either. So your reach system is probably not
as healthy as it should be as well. And so
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you know, the root system is I tell people that's
the foundation of your skyrise building. Okay, if you don't
have a good foundation, the building's going to collapse.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
And I think a lot of people don't realize that
plants do breathe the oxygen through their roots.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes, that's right, they don't.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
They think it comes out of the leaves, and when
they're overwatering, not realizing that they're suffocating the plant.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Right, And then you start to see and it's not uncommon.
Oh yeah, it's it's started to well, I've been watering
it every day, but then the leaves started wilting, so
I started watering twice a day. Whoa, you know, all right,
kiss of death right there. You get the same visual
from both extreme, don't you. Because there's water pressure that
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keeps the leaves up. So if it doesn't have water,
they droop. But if it stays too wet, the roots rot,
and if they're rotten, they can't absorb water, so they droop.
But most people go by and see a droopy leaf
and you, oh, I got the water right. So yeah,
it's a it's a little tricky there, but I tell
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people they have to go out and inspect. It's kind
of like horticulture CSI. You know, you got to dig in.
You got to look at the crime scene. What's going on?
Is it wet, is it dry? You know, what have
I been doing for the last week? You know kind
of thing. So so it's not that difficult. I mean,
there's just a handful of things. Putting a plant in
the right place, it's right, sunlight, you know, drainage, watering, nutrition,
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that's the that's the basic ones right there. And that's
actually pretty easy, isn't it. Yeah, let me see Jeremy.
Thanks Jeremy just bumped in. We've got Saturday. Next Saturday,
we got the East Baton Rouge Master Gardeners are having
their fall plant sale. It is at the Botanic Gardens
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at Burden on Essen Lane, which is right off the interstate.
Like if you're going to Lady of the Lake, right
off the interstate, that very first traffic light. That's gorgeous.
They are building a beautiful new building up in the
front visitor center. It's not that it's not very beautiful
right now, but once that gets completed, it's going to
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be just an outstanding And if y'all had they do
so many things now. They had the lights there last
the last two Christmases. Oh man, if y'all want a
good Christmas show, go see the lights at Burden. It
is so cool. So yeah, So that's next Saturday, not today,
but next Saturday, September twenty seventh, from eight until noon
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at the Burden Research Center right there at Essen and
I ten so and just go around. Look. I saw
some really cool gingers the other day up underneath the
pines by the conference center, and really cool stuff. It's
a it's a great place to go. There's trails through
the through the forested area. Every now and again they'll
do things where your kids can plant trees, and then
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they do a marker with the latitude longitude, so over
the years you can go back and find the tree
your plant. It's really cool. Yeah, it's a great place.
They do the They usually do the corn maze, but
I hadn't heard anything about that this year, so maybe
maybe not. I don't know. Anyway, back to the show. Here,
phone lines open four nine nine nine five two six.
(31:40):
I don't know why they're open. I know there's people
listening that have question. All they have to do is
pick up the phone four nine nine nine five two six.
Jeremy did the little handting like make it happen, and
it's still it's blank. I don't know what's going on.
And you know, if you're driving and you hear something
that you want to revisit, something about any herbicide or
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some of the plants we've talked about. iHeartRadio free app
on your phone mine, I bluetooth it to the truck. Now.
I haven't been listening to much of it lately. I've
been involved in some other series things, so but iHeartRadio
w JBO Lawn, the Garden Show. You can listen to
all of them. I actually will go back sometimes to
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find plant names or questions that somebody did and go back,
especially if if I'm here. I usually have a good memory.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
But not really, I thought you checked it just to
make sure you were still right.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Case it may have changed between the first Yeah, they
don't let me go in and edit to make the corrections.
I only have so many hours in the day. Oh,
I am getting actually some uh some comments on my
cell phone where people are listening to the show and
saying it's good. Yeah, right now, right here, the very
(32:57):
last one, Jessica, is great, complimentary your conversation. How about that? Yeah, yeah,
it is. So we do have somebody to pick up
the phone and called. We're still going to probably be
able to take some more callers. So pick up the
phone four six and let's go to Walter Walter, good morning,
thanks for calling the Wjbola on the Garden Show. How
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are you?
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Yeah, I've got I finally decided after froze so many times.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I've put my.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Uh uh citrus in pots. I've got a myran lemon,
I've got a I got a already cross that suma
and then I've also got a just a regular lemon
and I've got them out on the patio, you know,
on full Son and all, and the leaf rollers have
gotten into my leaves. On the new leaves.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
They're often it's quite bad at the end of the season.
So well, I went.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
By Cleggs and I asked it about what I need
to do, and say that get some liquid seven and
spray them with that. And uh, I've done that on
two or three occasions. I think they just like that stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Well, they Walter. Timing is so critical for a citrus
leaf roller. You cannot access the bug to kill it
with the spray once he's inside the leaf. So if
you're looking at a curled leaf, it's not worth spraying.
What you have to do is watch they lay their
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eggs on immature leaves. They usually hit the leaf when
it's about only a half inch in size. So you
know how citrus will quite often they always have a
little new growth, but sometimes they'll just be a jam
packed with all new growth through the whole plant all
at once. That's that's when you spray when the leaves
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are about a half inch long, and I usually use Spino said,
but the seven would when they're the leaves are about
a half inch long, you spray then way do we
can spray again and then just let that whole set
of leaves mature. And that happens with the citrus usually
about three times a season. But if you're looking at
curled leaves, it's too late to do anything. But it's
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important to remember the leaf is still mostly green and
still producing energy for your plant. Okay, and quite often
all you get those big long water shoots that are
you know, stick up out and they're full of leaf
for it. Just just prune that piece off.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
All right, Well I just wondered if I was praying
with the right thing. But I now it's that I
need to get in there a lot earlier than I'm
doing it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, it's time timing, timing, Okay.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
All right, Well, thank you for the information.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
All right, Walter, have a great day. All Right, we've
got another caller. We've got things rolling. Patrick, good morning,
thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn the Garden Show. What
you got going.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I've got a.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
Question about pruning crank myrtles. Okay, I have a missus Francis.
I got planet and actually last year did bloom and
they're pretty.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But anyway, when do you prune crank myrtle?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You're doing a little light shaping or hard pruning lots.
Speaker 9 (36:04):
Oh no, no, it's a brand new tree.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Actually got it from you.
Speaker 9 (36:10):
I guess it's about but succeed. Maybe I'll not succeed.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Maybe about three feet fourteen something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, you don't have a lot to prune on a
three foot Now, if you've got a branch chicken out sideways,
you can do some pruning to encourage form now typical
if it's a hard pruning, large volume, that's more like
the middle of February. But you can prune year round.
(36:36):
If you have a branch that's growing in the wrong direction,
prune it, Okay. Don't don't ever say, oh, well, well
I was supposed to do it in February and it
is July. I can't do it now. No, get your
pruners and go out and cut it. Okay. It's ridiculous
to let that branch grow for months and months in
the wrong direction when that growth could go in a
(36:57):
direction that you wanted to by punting it out and
read wrecking where that energy flows going. Okay, Okay, So
shape it, shape it when it's young, you know, and
that way you won't have to fight with it when
it's older.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, it makes sense. What about one is producing, it's
making its fruit.
Speaker 9 (37:14):
Do you you don't cut those back when it's making
its fruit right after the bloom?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
That little pod, the sea pod, Yeah, that's just waste energy.
Now when he's short, you can get to him. When
he's tall. I'm too lazy, and you've got a lot
of them, So can you print him off? Yes? Would
I worry about that ever?
Speaker 9 (37:34):
No?
Speaker 8 (37:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Cool, that's what I wanted to find.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Out, Jessica. Do you like to go out with a
pair of handprinters and chase those down?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
All?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Right? What else? Passion?
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay? Echosum?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
When is the good time to transplant those?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Oh gosh, after eight fifty am?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Okay, in the morning.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
H three hundred sixty five days of the year. You
can't barely kill it, Patrick. The only rule you have
to remember for that is green side up. Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Now that stuff can spread and can it can become invasive? Okay,
so be careful where you're putting it. Horsetail equis here,
so horsetail rush so yeah, that can be quite invasive.
And if you ever go to prune it. Patrick, there's
the East bet Rouge Library on Goodwood. I don't know
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if they've corrected it, but at first, when they first
planted that all in the front, that was the way
they took care of it. Was a great example of
how not to prune it. Okay, they would they would
come in and cut all of the all of it off,
maybe three foot off from the ground, and so it
would look funny at the top. If if it ever
looks so bad that you need to cut it off
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its ground, it'll come up nice and fresh from the
ground up. Okay, you are not going to kill it
by cutting it down to the ground.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Okay, we appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
That's an earlier war plant. That's gonna make it.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Okay, Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
All right, Patrick, have a great, one gorgeous plant, but
you have to make sure you've got it where you
really want it. That's a good water plant too, you know,
for like in a little pot, in a little tiny
container pond or something. Great can't kill it. Freeze doesn't
hurt it, you know, you know, the water doesn't hurt it. Uh,
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it's just a but it spreads by roots. So and
there are some chemicals now if you have it and
you don't want it anymore, there are some chemicals that
you can spray now for control of that which had
not been either realized or available in the past. So yeah,
well we've only got just a like like two three
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minutes and there's no phone calls. So I mean, so
we talked about the proper way to water, and right now, folks,
it is dry. So if you're not paying attention to
the water in your yard, you should be. And what
you want to do again is slow, thorough, and less frequency.
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We usually tell you about an inch a week. How
long is that? Go, get your a little short rain gage,
put it out there, get your tunican. They're straight sided.
Put it out there, Eat the tuna first, of course,
clean it out, put it out there, and then then
you can measure straight because it's got the straight sides.
Just measure it an inch a week. It's pretty simple. Okay. Remember,
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if it's newly planted material and you're using an oscillating sprinkle,
that's the old ones that wave back and forth. If
that little stream of water is not hitting exactly where
your newly planted plant is you're watering the area, but
you're not watering him or her. So you need to
make sure that you're watering the actual plants because they
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don't have those roots spread out far enough to grab
that extra water that's not hitting where the wootball is.
So water water, water, well, actually just water water twice
a week, so about an inch change of seasons. We've
got the fall betting plants coming in fall vegetables vegetables,
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well in winter vegetables. So you have like fall tomatoes,
which you should have planted like in.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Yeah, I think we're tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Right, Yeah, it's harvest in the falls for fall tomatoes,
not not plant in the fall. So a lot of
people get that mixed up. And now we've got the broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, russell, sprouts, kale, radishes, beets, us,
all kinds of stuff. So I don't know. Yeah, it's
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been great. Well we've got a minute. It's been great.
First time I've ever done the show with you. Was
very enjoyable to see you here and Jeremy, thank you.
As always. Don't forget we've got the Master Gardener UH
Gardening event next Saturday at burden. It ends at noon,
so get started early and just take some extra time
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and walk around. Bird. It's absolutely gorgeous out there. Pumpkins. Hey,
you got the mom's Yeah, if you want a substitute
for moms, Marigold's great for the fall, good pollinator plant guys,
get out and enjoy. It's a gorgeous day. We'll be
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here next week eight o'clock. Tune in and listen to us.
Have a great day.
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns,
all are questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine two six. Good morning, baton Rouge's
a lovely day here in the Capitol City. Glad that
you're tuned in listening to the WBO Lawn and Garden Show.
I'm Scott Ricca with Cleggs here with Jessica Froisy. Good morning.
(00:40):
I've never heard that name before. It's an interesting name.
Where's that come from? It's French French. That's cool. Cool. Well,
we're here this morning for about an hour. We're gonna
talk about gardening material. If you have any questions, please
pick up the phone and give us call it four
nine that's four nine nine WJBO, and we'ld be man.
(01:00):
We've already got somebody calling in right now. Yeah, we've
got Jeff Jeremy Porcine in the on at the control
board making us sound as best as he can. I
don't give him a lot to work with, I'm sure
Jessica being here will be an upgrade for me. So uh,
but we're gonna we're gonna have fun. Pick up the phone,
(01:20):
give us a call. You know, it's a change of season.
Things are going on. We've got new plants starting to
become available. We've got new stock of betting plants, new shrubs,
just you know, just all kinds of stuff. And we're
gonna go ahead and go to our first caller and
hopefully that'll start a long stream of people calling in
(01:43):
this morning again four nine six, and we're gonna go
to Bob. Bob, good morning, thanks for calling the w
j BO Lawn and Garden Show.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Good morning, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Sure, what's up?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So just an easy one. I think I've already parked
my pre Emerged for the winter, and I have an
Apple on my phone that tells me like the soil
tip right now is running around eighty one or eighty
two here in Baton Rouge. I would like to put
out the pre Emerge, you know, is at the optimum time,
(02:17):
and I think the soil tip probably is a little
high right now for that. How what soil tip do
you think you need to get down to for the
pre emerged to go down and have its optimum duration
of treatment.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What pre emersion are you putting out? Dimension?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know, I'm driving in the car and I already
bought that, and I don't I don't have that in
front of me.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Unfortunately, Yeah they have, you know, they they don't just
work like two or three days. I mean, they've got
a Spanish time that they work. If I was going
to make an error, I would always make that error
on putting it out early. And so mid September is
a good time to start. As a matter of fact,
(02:59):
I'm and this is if you're using dimension, this is
the wrong purpose side. But if like you had spur weed,
the stickers sometimes they sprout this early, you'd need a
different herbicide premerging herbicide for stickers, if for anybody who's listening.
But I would go ahead and put out my pre
mergent now. And if you're using the dimension, that can
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go both in the lawn and the flower bed. And
a matter of fact, the winter riser with weed prevnter
is a blending of a fertilizer with dimension, and that's
unlike a weed and feed. The weed and feed has
piller thevation. So it can actually go in the flower beds,
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whereas the weed and feeds cannot.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So let me ask you another question real quick. All
I got you.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
So in terms of.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I've been waiting, I've been waiting for us to get
into a rain period to put it out. You know,
we've no i'd started, We've had Yeah, we've had some storms,
but they've just popped up and never been forecasts.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Right, But I don't think if I'm not mistaken, and
maybe Jessica, I don't know if you've read through that level.
I don't actually remember on the dimension label saying whether
it needs to be watered in. Now, if it's a
fertilizer with the dimension blended in it, the recommendation would
be to put out the fur, making sure that the
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soil is not dry before you put it out. On
the label that will tell you to sometimes water two
or three days before application, which as dry as we've been,
that might not be a bad idea here, that's not
normally something we need to do. But then watering in
will start to release the fertilizer. I don't know that
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it makes the dimension work any faster or slower, but
I would I would go ahead and put it out
and water it. For a different reason, A lot of
people wait too late to put out their winterizing furtilisers.
This is the pre winter furtilaser. This fertilizer. A lot
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of people come in in late October November and they
want to winterize. Well, it's too late. At that time.
You're putting out a furtilizer which is helping or trying
to promote a change in the cellular structure of the grass,
is trying to make the cellular walls thicker, so it
would be more resistance to bursting under freeze temperatures. That
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takes time, and the plant needs to be actively growing
for that to happen. If you wait too late to
get this started, you will not be able to have
enough time for that cellular change to occur, or maybe
not at all if you're doing it when the grass
is already starting to go dorm it. So I would
put it out now.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, Do you think that On a different tangent, last question,
do you think that it does any good this time
of year to like try to put selsius on Virginia
button we?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, I mean yes. This is one of the highest
seed production times late summer, so I would and at
this time, at this time of the year, it's one
of the few times because sometimes it just really goes
into like monster mode and starts to smother more turf.
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That's the only time of the year that I would
recommend taking a rake or something and just literally ripping
it off the soil surface. It doesn't kill, but it
can slow down the suffocation of turf grass if it
is that bad in your situation.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's just that's the worst. BBW is the
absolute worst.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, it's in the top three bad weeds. Yeah, I
will tell you, we're just talking Virginia button weed, torpedo grass,
and I don't I don't know what i'd put in
the third slot, but yeah, terrible, terrible thing to have.
But the celsius or the MSM turf both great products
for that. And the celsius as that's a term for
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temperature range that gives you the idea that it's safe
to use in a higher temperature range, which it is
if used properly.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, let me conclude by giving a shout out to
Johnny at the Segan Lane location. He is just always
a wealth of knowledge and a great a great guy
to use as a resource.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He Yes, he's a walking encyclopedia. We are so lucky
to have him here. So all right, Bob, have a
great day, thank you, all right too, all right, bye bye.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Had an off air question asking for your thoughts speaking
of pre emergence pro diamine, Whether any thoughts on that,
any opinions.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That's a lawn for your lawns. Yeah, it's just got
listening for a lot of use. Yes, that's a that's
a good herberside. But some of those things are not
Some are more costly. Uh, some are not always available
in larger bag size for like a law and application.
(08:31):
But most times lawns are much bigger than a flower beds.
That's a good product, I mean. And there are some
things like snapshot is a commercial one. Well that's available
in the prem brand. So yes, excellent herbicide that's used
probably a little bit more on a professional level. Good good,
(08:54):
good product. Well, so I got all excited seeing that
extra phone call come in while talking to Bob and thinking,
all right, we're on a roll. But nobody else has
picked up the phone and used that number yet. What's that?
What's the number, Jessica?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Uh, it is four two six, all right, that's four
nine w JB.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah. So, uh, let me say so at Seagan, you
do a lot of the colors.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Ummy, So I we're mainly in the betting house, but
I also kind of taken over all the house plants.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So what has has the range of material in the
betting house been changing?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, so what are we getting into now?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
We've started getting snap dragons, We've got pionsies violas, We've
got dianthus.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Some different petunias.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
We've got a bunch of different petunias.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We have some colendulas at Greenville the other day, or
as they say, across the pond, some calendulas in the
caliber Tooa. Yeah, which looks like a little tiny petunia. Yeah,
in a pretty wide range of colors. Pretty pretty great
for a hanging basket, by the way.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, we've got tons of moms and ornamental.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Peppers, which ormond pepper. Can't you eat those? Why do
they call them ornamental?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
So I technically you can eat them, They're just not
very tasty.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They're hot. They are hot. That's what my mama used
to use to do her pepper vinegar. Yeah, because the
pepper vinegar jar would look very pretty with all the
different color of peppers. But yes, they are absolutely edible,
and most of them are absolutely hot, with the exception
of the chili chili see chi ll y like burr
(10:42):
and chili, So chili chili is only Malbourne that I'm
aware of out there. But I don't do anything hot anymore. So, however,
I did have an employee pop one in his mouth
after work the other day and like miss Scott, those
are hot, Yeah, they are so yeah. So now what
do you think about pansies in the ground right now?
(11:03):
I'm a little leary to put them out in the
bed right now. It's just very hot still. Even containers though, yeah,
but not so much. The biggest issue is a soul
passage and when the soul's warm for the for the pansies.
And so if you were going to do pansies, I
might do containers, but I don't know that I plant
them in the in the beds right now. Yeah, And
(11:25):
we're a change of uh betting plants for gardening right now.
We've got a change going into We got the cabbages
and broccoli and cauliflowers and all that stuff going on.
That's a big change. Also, Yeah, we've got another caller. Wow,
it's K. Let's see what K has this morning. K.
(11:45):
Thanks for calling the Wjbola on a garden show. What's up?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Hello? This is K. Did you call me? Call for me?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You are on the air.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Thank you. I have a fence road between my property
in the neighbors with a six foot privacy fence. I
have a burnham planted there that I'm having to remove.
I'd like to know what to replace it with. I
want something evergreen. I don't want a shrubbery row. I
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want it individual small trees or bushes that would grow
into trees like the viburnum did so.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Do you want them full all the way to the
ground or not?
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Not necessarily, But I don't want it pruned up like
these popsicle hollies that are all over train.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That's a very formal look, and I am a very
informal person. So yeah, Well, especially.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
In my backyard, my backyard, as I call it, a
winter woodland shade garden. But there is sun on this
particular end of the property.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What do you think that's enough sun to grow these things?
I'm gonna throw out the old old answer, K, And
I don't expect you to even like this one lagustrum.
But uh so we'll let that pass as fast as
I said it. But that would be evergreen. You could
leg them up. They could make a small tree form,
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you know, and you could space.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Is there's already a lagustrum on the fence road behind
me in the neighbors property. I don't mind the bloom
of the pollen or any of that. They're just I
don't know. We used to have cherry laurel where I
once live. Do you not do cherry Laurel and.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Louisiana Cherry laurel is available, but most of what's available
is a compact cherry laurel, so it doesn't grow quite
the same. And well, you don't want a wet spot.
They don't. They don't do with our heavy soil when
it stays too wet. So you'd have to make sure
it was a good drainage area as well, and that
might be available. We could look into that if that's
something you'd like us to look into at the store.
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But other options, Jessica.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
What about a camelle? Yeah, that's a sink was Yeah.
The communities to say that'd be a.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
You're talking my language. I have fifty five Japonicas and
hybrids in my yard, and I have a number of sucinquests,
but I need I would like to know how to
how to get big ones.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, we're just getting our stock in. It's hard to
get those in an overly large size. What we would
have coming in would be maybe in a I might
have a few left from last year and maybe a
seven foot range. The new ones will be a little
shorter than that, but we do have some taller growing
varieties that come in sets. A gecko, which would be
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a white cotton candy, is a you know, a medium pink,
A double sets a gecko as a single one.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
I like cotton candy. Yeah, so but the seven foot
would be fine, but I probably need eight.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Or nine of them, yeah, or even four.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Or five foot. I can't wait for a three foot
to glow. Seventy six years old.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, well you sound awfully young, and if you're out
there doing that kind of gardening, I think you'll probably
work a lot of us in the ground. So no, so, yeah,
we are just starting to bring a lot of the
thecinc was in the thecink was usually our stock at
the store in the fall, just prior to blooming. And
we have in the last few weeks brought in several
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hundred at every location. Uh, A lot of the ones
that are coming in initially, or some of the shishi
gashira which are shorter, but uh, some of the taller
growing varieties will be in. We have them in ten
gallon containers. Uh. You can get them what we call
full to ground or we get the ones that now
instead of calling them a leggy, we call them multi
trunk form. So, yeah, I don't mind that.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
But I love sheshi gashira. I have it in four
places and I have some sheishi's over six feet tall
and people don't believe me.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I believe that I got that.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah so, but yeah, that would be an option. There
are some hollies that would grow you could do, like
needle point holly that would be evergreen. You could you know,
you could leg up the bottom a little bit if
you want. They usually average like in a six or
eight foot range evergreen. If you have the female, it
would produce berries, males will not. It's a good pollinator
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plant in the springtime. The honey bees love them.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's nice, shiny green, easy to grow the same not
the same scale. But if you're going to have a
problem with holly like that, there's going to be a scale.
Not t scale like what you might have on your communities,
but yeah, but nonetheless scale.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
So okay, well I might have a look at the holly.
And I'm very I'm very bent towards the Susan was
because of what else I have there and as long
as I could get them big enough and enough of
the same variety.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh yeah, we'll have We'll have Bouku cake. By the way,
you are listening to the WJBO Lawn and Garden Show,
we have Jessica Freisy you got it here, who is
at the Seging Lane store and you do a range
of duties there. You do a lot of ordering and
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organization and keeping up with all the houseplants and betting plants,
which is not a small tasket seeging, is it? Y'all
get in stuff throughout the week a lot. You know.
I was usually at the Green Springs location. And the
point set is that are grown at Color Division are
starting to be stocked into the greenhouses, and that is
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just something that's outstanding and beautiful to watch. Never forget
the first time I ever saw them start to turn color.
I was doing a job up in the roof of
the greenhouse and over a number of days, it was
like somebody lit a match and it was just like
a wildfire spreading. It was really cool to see. Which
we always have our open house. It's the Saturday following
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Thanksgiving this year, so mark down our new calendar. Every
store should have a little flyer up to where people
can see it. But that's an extraordinary thing to see.
I guess I'm starting to promote a little early. We've
got Santa claus Is there so you can take pictures,
and we have we grow about ten thousand point sat
so it's like a half an acre of all color,
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all kinds of colors and sizes, and it's just it's
a sight to see. If you're interested in seeing a
greenhouse full of color. That's market calendar the Saturday following.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Thanksgiving, So it Saturday, November twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Ah oh oh, I'm glad you're prepared with that. May Yeah,
it's on our feast book.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
We have an event page if you want to go
check it out.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So we talked with our last color. We kind of
talked about some of the sussanquas, which is a type
of camellia, And she had mentioned that she has Chamelia
japonicas already in her yards. That's usually a bigger flowered chameleia,
and it can have a longer range of or fairly
long range. A lot of times they used to classify
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them in a early, mid and late season community japonicas.
Most of the sussankas are fairly early, but there are
some at bloom a little later, like a spring festival.
Is gorgeous. Niplum's late. It's a hybrid that's a gorgeous,
gorgeous one. But all of those things are just starting
to come in. And she had mentioned that she has
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a bunch of sishis, which is such a common shrub
in Baton rouge, and a lot of people don't know
what it is. And I love the Kamillia sussankas because
they start giving you color when most of the other
stuff has stopped giving you color. So they usually start
well about the early November and they can go through
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into like a sishi. I've seen them go in from
early no November all the way in through January with
color brightening up the yard during that winter time when
it might be a little dreary or whatever. And they're
actually a good plant for pollinators too. Bees and an
oddly enough wasp will go in that. Not that that's
going to promote the wasp in the yard, but it's good.
So we've had somebody asking about the winter Riser and
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so it's a you know, and you mentioned to me
in our commercial break that butsch says we should change
the name to Fallarizer to get people to realize that
you don't wait until winter to do it. You're trying
to get it prepared for winter, which which takes time.
So again we want to get that winter Riser fertilizer
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out now because there's a cellular change we're trying to
promote with the grass. And then if you have and
and weeds are kind of like betting plants, you have
your warm season betting plants, I think you know, all
kinds off and then winter you got your pansies and
snaps and petunias, something that like it hots, something like
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it cool. Well, there's weeds just like that. And so
the winter Riser with the weed preventer will help stop
a lot of the cool season weeds from germinating. And
you know, it always amazes me when people come in
in like February and all this clover just got started.
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Clover sprouts in the fall. So that's right, it's been
there for a long time. It's just now started to bloom.
So a lot of things that you fight with in
the spring, if you were to treat it in the fall,
you will not have the problem that you normally have
in the spring. Clover, handbit, chick weed, all of those
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things could be treated now much more effectively than later.
That cocktail that we spread winter yeah, I mean, well
it's not just winter weed. I mean you could. You know,
we use the achazine, the weed free zone and the
spreadersticker that is an excellent, excellent mixed to use in
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the fall. Also, now we'd use that more like in
November once we've already got some sprouting going on. But
it will it will just knock out so much of
that stuff that we don't notice normally until spring. So
it's a great way to get going. What else is
going on?
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Pumpkins?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Pump Oh man, we have some gorgeous pumpkins ones.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, Tom said, we have twenty five different varieties of
pumpkins at our stores.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Anywhere, from little ones that will fit in the palm
of your hand the ones that won't. We got urge
ones and yeller ones and white ones. They got all
kinds of stuff. It's the wardy ones, the wardy ones. Yeah.
How about the ones that look like Cinderella's carriage. Yeah yeah, yeah,
there's it's unique and we are fully loaded with that
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and corn stalks and hay bales and all that stuff.
But it's that time of the season also, so just
uh just loaded up. So thanks for everybody that's listening
here at a WJBO lawn and Garden show on Radio Dial.
My name is Scott Ricca. I'm here with Jessica frozy F.
(23:26):
I did it right twice and now I'm messed up
the third time. They say third times a charm, but
I think I do that. I did it backwards.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You just mentioned your age a few Uh. Anyway, we're here. Uh,
We've got probably another half hour close to it, and
we would love to help you. If you had any questions,
you could pick up the phone call four five six
as four w JBO. I'm gonna take a nap and
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Jessica's gonna take care of you know, since I'm old,
you know, I can't do it more than about thirty
forty as their time. So you know, if you hear
some snoring in the background. So, uh, we've already got
a caller and I would like to encourage, and we've
got lots of phone lines, so just pick up the phone.
You got to keep Jeremy occupied. Also, he gets bored
in there, but he does give some time to pick
out better music. So so uh, all right, let's go
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to John and see what's going on. John, good morning,
and thanks for calling the WJBO lawna garden show. What's up?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Good morning, Scott.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Hey, John, got it from those trust sardinias.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think it might be too wet.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
The branches and leaves are cutting round.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah. If there's too dry on the frost proof, usually
you'll lose a lot of the interior leaves first they'll
turn bright yellow and start to drop, but the outer
the terminal points are usually okay. But you're getting brown
from Yeah, that sounds like it's too wet. So John,
you've got that on an irrigation system or you're doing
it by hand or what it's hand?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Their foundation plannings.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
Uh, huh, and I know, we'll we transplanted one and
the soil the play was really wet there, but like.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I said, it's uh.
Speaker 10 (25:20):
Sporadically different branches are turning brown.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So any any action other than the backing off on.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
The watering, yeah, back off on the water. I would
not do any real fertilization right now until I saw
positive growth back on the gardenia, which this late in
the season you should maybe see a little bit, but
not a lot. Of course, you don't want to promote
a lot of growth going into winter on that because
it would lessen the cold tolerance. So yeah, I would
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just back off on that watering at most, especially if
that area holds if it's a you know, got a
lot of water holding capacity there, twice a week probably
slow thorough and then let it dry in between. It's
what I would do, John, can you can you Is
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it too much trouble to go out and lift that
with their shovel to see what the roots are doing,
the root tips or not? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, So yeah, I would just you know,
manage my water until I see positive growth back, and
then you could once you see a little positive growth,
you could do a very mild water soluble, knowing that
that won't last that long, and so to put on more, well,
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that'd be fine. Root simulator has a fertilizer in that.
Most people don't realize that. So yeah, uh. The quirk
of that is that, of course you're putting it out
with water, so that'd be part of your watering regime. Okay,
So all right, John, hope you have a great day.
And that was a very good question. You know, most people,
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I don't so often, and I don't know if you me.
When somebody comes in, I just ask question, question questions,
you know, so quite often they'll tell me, oh, I've
got I've got an irrigation system in And when they
tell me that, I almost always ask them, well, how
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do how do you have a set to come on?
Did that happen to you? What kind of answer do
you get? Most or very.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Frequently, either they have it on for a very little
time that's not really gonna actually water everything, or they
have it on for way too long that's gonna you know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'm mostly on the first one. I say, Oh, it
comes on ten minutes every day. Yeah, that's a horrible
way to water. Everybody's listening. You want longer duration so
it soaks deeper deep water yet and then you want
less frequency so that you're letting air reinvade the soil structure.
Because they have a healthy root system, you have to
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have a balance between that moisture and air for the
roots to be healthy. And when you're watering it every
day like that shallow, you're encouraging a shallow root system
where they can't take care of themselves very well. And
you're not allowing air to get back into the soil
very effectively either. So your reach system is probably not
as healthy as it should be as well. And so
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you know, the root system is I tell people that's
the foundation of your skyrise building. Okay, if you don't
have a good foundation, the building's going to collapse.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
And I think a lot of people don't realize that
plants do breathe the oxygen through their roots.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes, that's right, they don't.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
They think it comes out of the leaves, and when
they're overwatering, not realizing that they're suffocating the plant.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Right, And then you start to see and it's not uncommon.
Oh yeah, it's it's started to well, I've been watering
it every day, but then the leaves started wilting, so
I started watering twice a day. Whoa, you know, all right,
kiss of death right there. You get the same visual
from both extreme, don't you. Because there's water pressure that
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keeps the leaves up. So if it doesn't have water,
they droop. But if it stays too wet, the roots rot,
and if they're rotten, they can't absorb water, so they droop.
But most people go by and see a droopy leaf
and you, oh, I got the water right. So yeah,
it's a it's a little tricky there, but I tell
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people they have to go out and inspect. It's kind
of like horticulture CSI. You know, you got to dig in.
You got to look at the crime scene. What's going on?
Is it wet, is it dry? You know, what have
I been doing for the last week? You know kind
of thing. So so it's not that difficult. I mean,
there's just a handful of things. Putting a plant in
the right place, it's right, sunlight, you know, drainage, watering, nutrition,
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that's the that's the basic ones right there. And that's
actually pretty easy, isn't it. Yeah, let me see Jeremy.
Thanks Jeremy just bumped in. We've got Saturday. Next Saturday,
we got the East Baton Rouge Master Gardeners are having
their fall plant sale. It is at the Botanic Gardens
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at Burden on Essen Lane, which is right off the interstate.
Like if you're going to Lady of the Lake, right
off the interstate, that very first traffic light. That's gorgeous.
They are building a beautiful new building up in the
front visitor center. It's not that it's not very beautiful
right now, but once that gets completed, it's going to
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be just an outstanding And if y'all had they do
so many things now. They had the lights there last
the last two Christmases. Oh man, if y'all want a
good Christmas show, go see the lights at Burden. It
is so cool. So yeah, So that's next Saturday, not today,
but next Saturday, September twenty seventh, from eight until noon
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at the Burden Research Center right there at Essen and
I ten so and just go around. Look. I saw
some really cool gingers the other day up underneath the
pines by the conference center, and really cool stuff. It's
a it's a great place to go. There's trails through
the through the forested area. Every now and again they'll
do things where your kids can plant trees, and then
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they do a marker with the latitude longitude, so over
the years you can go back and find the tree
your plant. It's really cool. Yeah, it's a great place.
They do the They usually do the corn maze, but
I hadn't heard anything about that this year, so maybe
maybe not. I don't know. Anyway, back to the show. Here,
phone lines open four nine nine nine five two six.
(31:40):
I don't know why they're open. I know there's people
listening that have question. All they have to do is
pick up the phone four nine nine nine five two six.
Jeremy did the little handting like make it happen, and
it's still it's blank. I don't know what's going on.
And you know, if you're driving and you hear something
that you want to revisit, something about any herbicide or
(32:02):
some of the plants we've talked about. iHeartRadio free app
on your phone mine, I bluetooth it to the truck. Now.
I haven't been listening to much of it lately. I've
been involved in some other series things, so but iHeartRadio
w JBO Lawn, the Garden Show. You can listen to
all of them. I actually will go back sometimes to
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find plant names or questions that somebody did and go back,
especially if if I'm here. I usually have a good memory.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
But not really, I thought you checked it just to
make sure you were still right.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Case it may have changed between the first Yeah, they
don't let me go in and edit to make the corrections.
I only have so many hours in the day. Oh,
I am getting actually some uh some comments on my
cell phone where people are listening to the show and
saying it's good. Yeah, right now, right here, the very
(32:57):
last one, Jessica, is great, complimentary your conversation. How about that? Yeah, yeah,
it is. So we do have somebody to pick up
the phone and called. We're still going to probably be
able to take some more callers. So pick up the
phone four six and let's go to Walter Walter, good morning,
thanks for calling the Wjbola on the Garden Show. How
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are you?
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Yeah, I've got I finally decided after froze so many times.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I've put my.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Uh uh citrus in pots. I've got a myran lemon,
I've got a I got a already cross that suma
and then I've also got a just a regular lemon
and I've got them out on the patio, you know,
on full Son and all, and the leaf rollers have
gotten into my leaves. On the new leaves.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
They're often it's quite bad at the end of the season.
So well, I went.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
By Cleggs and I asked it about what I need
to do, and say that get some liquid seven and
spray them with that. And uh, I've done that on
two or three occasions. I think they just like that stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Well, they Walter. Timing is so critical for a citrus
leaf roller. You cannot access the bug to kill it
with the spray once he's inside the leaf. So if
you're looking at a curled leaf, it's not worth spraying.
What you have to do is watch they lay their
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eggs on immature leaves. They usually hit the leaf when
it's about only a half inch in size. So you
know how citrus will quite often they always have a
little new growth, but sometimes they'll just be a jam
packed with all new growth through the whole plant all
at once. That's that's when you spray when the leaves
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are about a half inch long, and I usually use Spino said,
but the seven would when they're the leaves are about
a half inch long, you spray then way do we
can spray again and then just let that whole set
of leaves mature. And that happens with the citrus usually
about three times a season. But if you're looking at
curled leaves, it's too late to do anything. But it's
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important to remember the leaf is still mostly green and
still producing energy for your plant. Okay, and quite often
all you get those big long water shoots that are
you know, stick up out and they're full of leaf
for it. Just just prune that piece off.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
All right, Well I just wondered if I was praying
with the right thing. But I now it's that I
need to get in there a lot earlier than I'm
doing it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, it's time timing, timing, Okay.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
All right, Well, thank you for the information.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
All right, Walter, have a great day. All Right, we've
got another caller. We've got things rolling. Patrick, good morning,
thanks for calling the WJBO Lawn the Garden Show. What
you got going.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I've got a.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
Question about pruning crank myrtles. Okay, I have a missus Francis.
I got planet and actually last year did bloom and
they're pretty.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But anyway, when do you prune crank myrtle?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You're doing a little light shaping or hard pruning lots.
Speaker 9 (36:04):
Oh no, no, it's a brand new tree.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Actually got it from you.
Speaker 9 (36:10):
I guess it's about but succeed. Maybe I'll not succeed.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Maybe about three feet fourteen something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, you don't have a lot to prune on a
three foot Now, if you've got a branch chicken out sideways,
you can do some pruning to encourage form now typical
if it's a hard pruning, large volume, that's more like
the middle of February. But you can prune year round.
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If you have a branch that's growing in the wrong direction,
prune it, Okay. Don't don't ever say, oh, well, well
I was supposed to do it in February and it
is July. I can't do it now. No, get your
pruners and go out and cut it. Okay. It's ridiculous
to let that branch grow for months and months in
the wrong direction when that growth could go in a
(36:57):
direction that you wanted to by punting it out and
read wrecking where that energy flows going. Okay, Okay, So
shape it, shape it when it's young, you know, and
that way you won't have to fight with it when
it's older.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, it makes sense. What about one is producing, it's
making its fruit.
Speaker 9 (37:14):
Do you you don't cut those back when it's making
its fruit right after the bloom?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
That little pod, the sea pod, Yeah, that's just waste energy.
Now when he's short, you can get to him. When
he's tall. I'm too lazy, and you've got a lot
of them, So can you print him off? Yes? Would
I worry about that ever?
Speaker 9 (37:34):
No?
Speaker 8 (37:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Cool, that's what I wanted to find.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Out, Jessica. Do you like to go out with a
pair of handprinters and chase those down?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
All?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Right? What else? Passion?
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay? Echosum?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
When is the good time to transplant those?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Oh gosh, after eight fifty am?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Okay, in the morning.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
H three hundred sixty five days of the year. You
can't barely kill it, Patrick. The only rule you have
to remember for that is green side up. Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Now that stuff can spread and can it can become invasive? Okay,
so be careful where you're putting it. Horsetail equis here,
so horsetail rush so yeah, that can be quite invasive.
And if you ever go to prune it. Patrick, there's
the East bet Rouge Library on Goodwood. I don't know
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if they've corrected it, but at first, when they first
planted that all in the front, that was the way
they took care of it. Was a great example of
how not to prune it. Okay, they would they would
come in and cut all of the all of it off,
maybe three foot off from the ground, and so it
would look funny at the top. If if it ever
looks so bad that you need to cut it off
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its ground, it'll come up nice and fresh from the
ground up. Okay, you are not going to kill it
by cutting it down to the ground.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Okay, we appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
That's an earlier war plant. That's gonna make it.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Okay, Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
All right, Patrick, have a great, one gorgeous plant, but
you have to make sure you've got it where you
really want it. That's a good water plant too, you know,
for like in a little pot, in a little tiny
container pond or something. Great can't kill it. Freeze doesn't
hurt it, you know, you know, the water doesn't hurt it. Uh,
(39:24):
it's just a but it spreads by roots. So and
there are some chemicals now if you have it and
you don't want it anymore, there are some chemicals that
you can spray now for control of that which had
not been either realized or available in the past. So yeah,
well we've only got just a like like two three
(39:45):
minutes and there's no phone calls. So I mean, so
we talked about the proper way to water, and right now, folks,
it is dry. So if you're not paying attention to
the water in your yard, you should be. And what
you want to do again is slow, thorough, and less frequency.
(40:12):
We usually tell you about an inch a week. How
long is that? Go, get your a little short rain gage,
put it out there, get your tunican. They're straight sided.
Put it out there, Eat the tuna first, of course,
clean it out, put it out there, and then then
you can measure straight because it's got the straight sides.
Just measure it an inch a week. It's pretty simple. Okay. Remember,
(40:34):
if it's newly planted material and you're using an oscillating sprinkle,
that's the old ones that wave back and forth. If
that little stream of water is not hitting exactly where
your newly planted plant is you're watering the area, but
you're not watering him or her. So you need to
make sure that you're watering the actual plants because they
(40:56):
don't have those roots spread out far enough to grab
that extra water that's not hitting where the wootball is.
So water water, water, well, actually just water water twice
a week, so about an inch change of seasons. We've
got the fall betting plants coming in fall vegetables vegetables,
(41:17):
well in winter vegetables. So you have like fall tomatoes,
which you should have planted like in.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Yeah, I think we're tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Right, Yeah, it's harvest in the falls for fall tomatoes,
not not plant in the fall. So a lot of
people get that mixed up. And now we've got the broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, russell, sprouts, kale, radishes, beets, us,
all kinds of stuff. So I don't know. Yeah, it's
(41:47):
been great. Well we've got a minute. It's been great.
First time I've ever done the show with you. Was
very enjoyable to see you here and Jeremy, thank you.
As always. Don't forget we've got the Master Gardener UH
Gardening event next Saturday at burden. It ends at noon,
so get started early and just take some extra time
(42:09):
and walk around. Bird. It's absolutely gorgeous out there. Pumpkins. Hey,
you got the mom's Yeah, if you want a substitute
for moms, Marigold's great for the fall, good pollinator plant guys,
get out and enjoy. It's a gorgeous day. We'll be
(42:29):
here next week eight o'clock. Tune in and listen to us.
Have a great day.
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