August 25, 2025 • 41 mins
We're looking forward to fall planting this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Butch and Jessica from Clegg's Nursery!
They'll discuss what you'll be planting in your vegetable gardens in the coming months, plus proper care of houseplants including water and sunlight tips, fall decorating plants, ornamental peppers, why a soil thermometer is the most important gift for a gardener and the Plant of the Week: American Beauty Berry!
We've also got YOUR questions on the best placement for a new tree, planting St. Augustine runners, dealing with ants in a potted plant and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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They'll discuss what you'll be planting in your vegetable gardens in the coming months, plus proper care of houseplants including water and sunlight tips, fall decorating plants, ornamental peppers, why a soil thermometer is the most important gift for a gardener and the Plant of the Week: American Beauty Berry!
We've also got YOUR questions on the best placement for a new tree, planting St. Augustine runners, dealing with ants in a potted plant and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six And.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, Baton Rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven
fifty wjba's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is BUTCHERWS
and with me is Jessica. Good morning, finally after all
these years and intelligent voice. So good morning, good morning.
A lot going on in the lawn and garden business.
I know it's really hot out there, so if you
are going to get out and do anything, I would
(00:42):
strongly urge either do it early in the morning or
late in the evening because temperatures are pretty rough. I
know you're not having any fun in it, are you.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, it's been fun.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, as she rolls her eyes and almost passes out.
So but no, there is some things going on right now.
If you're all interested in vegetable gardening, you ought to
be getting busy. Probably your plants don't look real good.
What was in the garden, so you might want to
get out there and pull those. If you're wanting to
(01:16):
do fall tomatoes, you'll still have some.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yep, and we've started getting in broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
All kind of different, you know, col vegetables.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, that's good. Fall tomatoes. You need to have them planted.
In fact, you're almost getting to the point of being
laid on fall tomatoes. They should be called late summer tomatoes,
I think, because that's when when you should be plantinum
picking in the fall, not necessarily planting in the fall.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
A lot of.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
People and this is one of my I don't want
to say one of my favorite things to recommend to people,
because you were talking about the broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, those
type plants. I mean, if you want to get started.
In fact, my wife and I were talking about getting
some and putting them like in a six inch so
we can kind of control them, maybe even put them
in a little bit of shade, just to get them started,
(02:05):
so that say middle ten to September, they'll be larger
and we can put them out to grow. A lot
of people don't want to go to that effort, and
I really don't think I want to either, but my
wife does because I am the lazy gardener. But one
of the things that you can do if you pulled,
if your peppers have peppered out and your tomatoes are
definitely gone by now, a temperatures field piece excellent cover crop.
(02:28):
You can throw them out there. You don't have to
do anything to them. In fact, you don't want to
fertilize anything. Then at the end of the season, if
you want to pick the black eyed peas, whatever field
pea you plant it, If you want to pick them
and eat them, fine, If not, just cut the plants off,
leave the root system in there, and you've put nitrogen
in the soil. So that's something else.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You can do.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Right now, I'm sure we have a great selection of that,
and that is a seed you would want to go
from seed with that, not necessarily a plant. But one
of the things that I'm excited about is probably in
the nurse business. My weakest area has always been house plants,
where I think that's your strength. If I'm not mistaken
sure is uh to for you because you are You're
(03:12):
i think sort of in charge of the new house
plan area at segan Lang, which is beautiful. If you
haven't been by it since they've done the expansion. It
is just unbelievable and it's nice to have your decorative
touch in there with the plant material. But what do
you think is the most common issue people have with houseplants?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Probably watering?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Honestly, Oh, you mean I shouldn't water with a half
a cup of water every two weeks now.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
A lot of people tend to overwater house plants, I
think because they're used to having to water so much outside.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know, you're water and.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Every day every other day outside because everything's drying out quickly.
But indoors, you really only want to be watering like
once a week. It'll it'll depend.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So you were you were talking about overwater and should
they be underwatering it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
With house plants, it's better to underwater than to overwater
because you can come back from underwatering a lot easier
than you can from like a rot that comes from watering.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah. One of the things that I used to get
asked a lot, and it was always I hate to
do it, but I would do the eye roll and
all the whole thing because it's an almost an impossible
question to answer, how often should I water?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It is It is an impossible question because it it
depends on so many things like how big the.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Pot is, what kind of soils in the.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Pot, how long it's been in the pot.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
How long it's been in that pot. Yeah, what type
of plant is it? You know, how close is it
to like a window, how much light is it getting?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And you know what, I'm interrupting you, and I apologize
for that. But one of the things that people don't realize,
and we always pointed out during Christmas time with Christmas trees,
but especially in the winter months when we're running our heaters,
if that pot is close to the vent that's blowing up,
that's going to dry the soil out. So even though
it's winter and oh, we're not watering anything outside, as
(05:16):
you brought up, maybe that houseplant might need to be watered.
What's the best way to for a customer or for
the owner of a houseplant to know it's dry or
it needs to be Let me rephrase that question, needs
to be watered?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I think the best way if you're more of a beginner,
is to get like a moisture meter.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That was one of my favorite tools.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You just stick it in the soil and it'll tell
you exactly how wet or how dry the soil is.
So that way, you know you know exactly every time,
because it's really not going to be on a set schedule.
It's not going to be every ten days or every
two weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It'll you mean, when Saturday, when I'm taking a out,
I shouldn't put the plant in there with me. Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So if you're a beginner, easiest way is a moisture meter.
But over time you kind of learn your plants. You
see them droop, you can kind of tell, you know
that they need the water. Or you can feel the soil,
you know, if the top two inches are dry, if
the pot is lighter.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You know, I like, I like to feel the soil.
That's I've got ten moisture Well, actually only eight because
of my thumbs don't work very well, but I us
I used to do that do the if. I usually
tell people if you can feel moisture two knuckles down,
you're probably okay, Yeah, but what what about light light requirements?
(06:46):
You know, if you have an apartment and let's say
the apartment is facing north, what can you do?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, So a lot of times in our houses we
just don't have enough light for a lot of these
plants that are grown out in the tropics that want
a lot of bright, bright indirect light, but not necessarily
the direct sun. So what you can do is get
grow lights to put inside. There's all kind of different ones.
(07:14):
There's bulbs, there's strips, there's ones that will stick like
directly in the pot. There's many ways to add like
supplemental lighting that would help the plants a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And just putting it, especially with the new LED lighting,
just putting it under a fluorescent light isn't going to work,
is it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
No, No, it has to be an actual grow.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Light the plant spectrum. And you brought up a great
point there when you said house plants. And then one
of the most interesting things was not long after my
wife and I were married, LSU was playing in the
Orange Bowl in Miami and we're driving down the interstate
get headed to the hotel and we're looking out going
what are those trees? They're huge? And then they were
(08:00):
Norfolk Island pines that were grown as actually I mean,
you know, if we're talking forty to fifty foot trees.
They had hibiscus hedges, pothus ivy was groundcovers it's like, wait,
aren't these houseplants for us? They are, But your point
about being tropical basically tropical plants is very very true.
But if you want to get involved in the show,
(08:22):
give us called four nine two six. That's four nine
nine WJBO. We'll put you smack dab on top of
our list. But that's very interesting. Uh. Do you do
you recommend what I'm gonna call pot watering or watering
from the top, or do you like to set it?
My mom used to always take her house plants, put
(08:43):
them in the bathtub for about twenty minutes, let the
water out let, let's let them sit in there for
another hour or so, and then put them back.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
If if I'm lazy, I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The lazy gardener. Now wait, don't take that from me.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
So if I'm like I will just water them with
the water and can from above like sitting in their saucers. Yeah,
but if I have the extra time and feel like it,
I will take them, yeah, to the sink or the
bathtub and really soak them well, rinse all their leaves off,
and let them you know, drink.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Give me a shower. Yeah, yeah, but that's true. You know,
actually kind of a joke, but that is something that
we need to be concerned about with house plants inside,
especially if we have pets. He you don't want the
pet eating the plant, but also their dander and their
hair will create a pollutant on it, for lack of
a better word, on top of their leaves.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So yeah, just dust.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, it does exactly. So a little shower every once
in a while never hurt anybody. Maybe maybe I should
do more once a week, but I just totally and
completely lost that thought. Oh the saucer you were you
were talking about you, you know, and I understand. You
have a house plant. You know, you have a wood
floor lamin it for whatever carpeting. You don't want water
(10:04):
because you have holes in the containers and water's going
to leak out. So you have a saucer there, What
is the negative of a saucer? You know where I'm going.
You got that headshake going, Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
With the saucer, because like you said.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You want the pot to have drain holes so the
water can can go through.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You know, you don't want the water to be sitting
in the pot.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
But if you have a saucer, it'll obviously come out
of the pot and pull into the saucers. So what
you could do is go back behind after you're done
watering everything and just dump those saucers out.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I have used like.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
A turkey baster for some of like my larger pots,
and you just suck the water out of the saucer
and just put it in a bowl. So, like, if
it's a big pot, you know, you don't have to
move it and try to pull the saucer out. But yeah,
you really don't want to leave them sitting in that water.
If you know, there's a good bad.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You mentioned right earlier with overwatering. Well, if you leave
water in that saucer, what if you did like a
decorative rock in that saucer so that the water was
in that but the pot was actually above it, that
would work too.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, Yeah, yeah, that would work us.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The decorative rocks would be pretty Yeah, but my dog
would eat them. I have a strange shock might take
after me. We actually are headed into the fall season
of listening to the news the other day and actually
heard the words cool front in cool front, I just
I don't think I've ever heard that before. But pumpkins fall,
(11:41):
duck perkins, Haybales the corn stalks, Thank you corn. So
it will all be coming in next week, right around
the I think he said the eighth and the ninth
of September. But you were telling me during the break preparation.
I can't believe it. For oh, give us call for
nine nine ninety five two six, and you'll see what
(12:03):
kind of preparation we've done here. But you are starting
to get some of the i'm gonna call fall decorating plants,
in which first one you mentioned was a croat, in
which I mean, hey, you got what orange red yellows.
I hate to use the word brown in a leaf,
but it's actually.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, it's almost a black, it's a.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But it's a fall collar. Yeah, I mean, and you
look at a croat and you go, wow, this is
you know, this is fallen. Well, it's a tropical plant.
I'm wont probably lose it in the freezer. I'm gonna
have to protect it. And all it's twenty bucks. What's
that two cups of coffee? It's Starbucks, you know, and
you have it for you know, if you purchase it.
(12:49):
When if you come in and get your gorge pumpkins
and get a croaton or two at the same time,
or you can come in now and have it out
there by the front door and don't forget the water.
But you know, you see those and it's like at
the front door and nobody nobody uses there. Why do
we even have front doors on houses anymore? Nobody uses them,
(13:10):
But you know, you forget about it out there. So
you do need to get on a watering schedule or
at least a watering check schedule on that. But moms,
they're not blooming yet. I don't I wouldn't think. But
moms are good for later into the fall of really,
once the sec schedule gets started and the parties really start,
they'll start to bloom. But one of the things Scott
(13:31):
Rick and I and I really want your opinion Jessica
on this is instead of moms, why not use marigolds.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I love that idea, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Because there's nothing wrong with a mom. If you're having
a party on Saturday and you run by and see
Jessica on Wednesday or Thursday and she's got those ten
inch moms that are just gorgeous in color, and you
want to buy three of those and put them out
there for that party, that's great, But how long is Mom,
I'm gonna bloom realistically peak bloom two weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
How long is the marigold going to bloom for you?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Longer?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah? Two months up until the first first cold snap
knocks it off, especially if you go out there and
dead head a little bit, and they give you the yellows,
the yellows and reds. They give you those fall colors
and with a much longer bloom. And now I'm going
to get your opinion on something and then I'll give
you mine. Ornamental peppers, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I don't hate them.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But I.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Love them.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I just don't I know, I know, I know Brandon,
Brayden and Michael and several of the managers read it.
They love ornamental peppers in the fall. I just don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know, it's cute. They're colorful, but they're not They're
not false.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, you know so anyway, But like I said, ornamental gourds, pumpkins,
all that, and there's some you know. That's one of
the things I guess. I you know, everybody knows my history.
I worked for Naylor's Hardware forever until we flooded out
in sixteen, unfortunately, and I'm still very thankful. Tom Finnell
and Scott Ricca hired all of the Naylor's crew most
(15:15):
of this, most of them had gone on or doing
other things, but hired us all on. And that was
one of the things that was the first fall with
all the different pumpkins, you know, the Cinderellas and the
spiders and the ghosts, and it's like, wow, they're not
all orangeing around the turks. What is it Turk's caboc
(15:37):
turban or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm
putting this on the spot here. You know, I'm old
and see now, but I do it well. But anyway,
that's that's neat, you know, Crotons and marigolds to me
or fall, you know. And yeah, the moms. I understand
the point behind that, because if you want to do purple,
that's real hard to find a purple marigal. In fact,
(15:58):
I think it's impossible. But anyway, give us call four six,
that's four nine nine, WJBO get you put some mac
dab on top of our list. What other fall betting
plants are you starting to see in the nursery.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Let me think we've been getting some dianthus.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah, they're all pink and purple. They are not really
fall colors.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But I mean, the nice thing about dianthus, especially if
you go through and dead head them from time to time,
is elle actually last a couple of years. Here. It
can kind of struggle a little bit in the heat,
but they tend to walk through go through pretty well.
But you do need to dead head them, and that's
pretty common of all betting plants, because an annual wants
to go to seed. If it goes to seed, it
(16:50):
cuts out, so we want dead head.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
We've also still got tons of kalladiums that are on sale.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Ooh, it's a nice pick up some kaladiums. You might
go ahead and get them planted. Do you recommend digging
your kaladium bulbs or leaving them in the ground.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I've really only like done them in pots myself, so
I've always just like taken them out, so I have
never tried just leaving them.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well. Being president of the Lazy Gardener Club, I leave
them the ground, and actually for the most part I've
had but then we have relatively good draining beds. But
if you have areas or you have a very wet winter,
you're going to probably lose your or if it's real,
real cold, you're going to lose your bulb if you
leave it in the ground. But again, I just again,
(17:44):
I'm lazy, so I tend to leave them in the ground.
And I totally lost where I was going to go.
I had something very important to bring up. But oh,
can I get the soapbox? Please hold on, I gotta
us it off. Okay, okay, good, the soapboxes over here.
(18:05):
Please do not come into any of our four locations
for the next month and a half and ask for pansies.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Oh I had someone ask for snapdragons yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yes, almost as bad. There is a pathogen in our
soils and all our soils. You know, it's nothing that
you've done. Nothing, Cleggs has done nothing. Come in with
pots that you bought from who knows where. But it's
(18:39):
just here in our saw And what it does is
it causes what we call damping off. The pathogen attacks
the stem of the plant. Right it's and it's the
easiest thing for us in the business to know what
happened when people bring these pansy plants in and right
there it's soil line. It's black well, guess what mister,
isactonia jumped on there and ate it. Pans are rise
(19:01):
like tonia ice cream. I mean they love it so
and the best way to combat it there's really no
soil treatment there. There is, but it's very difficult to do.
So what we do is we plant when that pathogen's asleep,
and it's a sleep at certain it's only a wake
(19:23):
at a very limited temperature range, which is affected by moisture.
But typically once our soil temperatures get below about seven
sixty five seventy it goes to sleep. And conversely, in
the summer, once our soil temperatures get above about seventy
five to eighty, it goes to sleep. So we want
to do is we want to wait on panty planting
(19:45):
pansies until our soil temperatures go down. And how's the
best way to tell soil temperatures a soil thermometer. The
ideal gift for any gardener is a soil thermometer. It
is I know you brought up moisture meter, and people
(20:06):
that listen to the show know my feelings about moisture meter. Sorry,
like I said, I think my finger does a much
better job. But soil thermometers vegetable planters. When do you
plant your carrot seeds? When do you plant your tomato
plants in the spring, depends on soil temperatures and if
you are if you plant venca in the summertime, venka
(20:26):
is rise like tonia ice cream. For the summer it
gets but again once the soil temperatures get above a
certain range, it goes asleep. We can plant the venka,
it goes all summer long, dies out once we get cold.
Then we put the pansies in once the soil temperature
has gone below their range. So salt thermometer can help
(20:47):
you out a lot, but please, snap dragons are also
susceptible to it, not quite as much as pansies are.
But again, like you said, please don't come in for
at least they're month and a half and asked for
pansies or snap dragons. You know, one of the things
I love in planting is snapdragons to the back and
(21:10):
pansies or viola is in front. And you know, you
can get whatever color combination you want to do that with.
But that just always looks so good. And we do
have a caller who called us at four five two six.
That's fort nine nine WJBO. Let's go see what John's got.
Good morning, John, Welcome to news Radio eleven fifty wjbo's
line Garden Show. What can we do for you?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Well, thank you O so much for taking my call.
I need to plant some trees. We had some Bradford pears,
but they were older and you know what they did,
mm hmm. And I'd like to plant some trees, but
they're between a driveway and a house. There's about fifteen feet.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But I want.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Something that uh hopefully will not destroy either slab.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You can if it's sticking with flowering trees. Fringe tree
is a beautiful tree. You see them in the spring
blooming around town. They look like that big white lollipop
all over town. Excellent, relatively small growing flowering tree. Crpe
myrtles are always an option in Baton Rouge, you know.
(22:22):
And you have all different height ranges there, you know,
all of them. I mean, I have a Natchez crape
myrtle that's probably probably thirty or forty feet. It's planted
about eight to ten foot from my slab, and I
got no problems whatsoever, So that would be an option
in there. If you're looking for something evergreen, some of
(22:43):
the hollies Dahune Holly, Eagleston Holly, Savannah hollys would work.
Those would be more evergreen for you. But I you
got any other suggestions, Jessica, No, yeah, I was going
to say the crape myrtle or fringe tree if you
want to. They they usually have some beautiful fifteen gallons
thirty gallons at Seagan Clegg's Segan. But that, to me,
(23:06):
in the spring is just one of the most striking
trees that you can see. But it does only bloom
in the spring, where the crape myrtle, like Jessica was saying,
will bloom more throughout the summer for you. So one
of those threes go ahead.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
I was gonna say, honestly, I'm not worried about blooms.
I'm more worried about.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Shade okay, wild wild fire gum. It's not a real
tall growing tree. It does it's an excellent, very fast
growing shade tree. It's not going to create a lot
of root system underneath there. That would probably be my
option for a shade tree. Something a little bit slower
(23:45):
growing would maybe be one of the dwarf Magnolia's. But
once you get into like your maples and your oaks,
that's a little bit more constricted area than you'd really
want to do.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Okay, what do you call it a wildfire?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, it's actually y'all have those because that's where I live.
I think. I think I keep up with inventory coming
in because I do a lot of the price changes
still for them, and I think I saw this. They
get a shipment of those not long ago, so yes
they should. Oh yeah, definitely. It's a tree that they
carry all the time because it does a beautiful job
(24:23):
with fall color and actually even during the spring when
it's leafing out, it'll give you some leaf color. But
excellent tree is not gonna go real big should should
be able to handle that area very well, say big
about forty feet.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
That's way more than eight so that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Sounds good. Thanks for calling, John, Thank you so much.
Thank you. My name is BUTCHERWS. I am with Jessica
from Clegg's Nursery. Good morning, good morning, anyway, great first
half hour. If you missed any of it, or we
would like to re listen to any of it, you
can go to our podcast. I wish I knew what
(25:03):
a podcast was, But I've been told that it's out there,
but no. Jeremy does a great job, usually has that
up within a couple hours after the show, and you
can go back probably a couple of years worth of shows.
If you have insomnia, you can definitely take care of that.
We actually have another caller gave us a call for
nine six. That's for nine nine WJBO. Let's go to John.
(25:26):
Good morning John, what can we do for you today?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Good morning guys. I really enjoy the show, Thanks for
all the information. I recently had some construction done in
my backyard and took advantage of that by having the
backyard completely reshotted in some beautiful Saint Augustine grass.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
I like you, John, Yeah, I know, I love it too.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
I love it too. I recently had to level off
some low spots with some new soil in there, and
I want to take some of the runners that I've got,
some of the beautiful runners that I've got, and plant
them in the parts that I had to level off.
But I've never had any luck with that. Within two
(26:05):
weeks they dry up and die out. Is there a
secret to planning Saint Augustine runners or just don't do it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh no, it's I'm not gonna say it's relatively easy
because of the temperatures we're dealing with right now. But
my father in law resided a backyard with cuttings he
made whenever he edged his front yard, so it can
easily be done. Water is essential. You're going to be
putting water on it almost every day, Okay, so I
(26:36):
mean you will be let me rephrase that, you will
be watering it every day. In fact, in some instances,
depending on soil type, where exactly it is, you may
have to be watering a couple times until that those
roots get out. It's not impossible to do. It is
going to require some effort this time of year, though,
But yeah, like I said, my father in law put
(26:59):
his backyard in Saint Augustine. From Saint Augustine, he cut
out of his front yard, so it can be done.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
So you don't have to pull the runner up by
the root or anything, or clip it in a special spot.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And just clip wherever when you look at the runner,
wherever the grass blades are coming out of the runner
on one side, it will root on the other side.
So if you can put that runner, make sure you
have good soil contact or maybe even just slightly slightly
buried by that, maybe half of the runner buried will
(27:33):
probably make it easier or especially from the moisture standpoint,
but yeah, it's just more of a moisture thing. But no,
wherever grass blades come out one side, roots come out
to the other side on a runner.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
So excellent. That's what I needed to know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
All right, Thanks for phone call, John, and that does
open up phone lines right now. Four two six s's
four nine nine ww we have another. Let's go to Patrick.
Good morning Patrick. That good morning Patrick. Welcome to news
radio eleven fifty wjbos lone Garden Show. What can we
do for you today?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I have ants and a potted plant. It's a high
biscus outside on the patio.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
What do I do with that?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I would strongly urge you to get your uncles to
take them home. Oh sorry about that, I had to
do it. There's several ant baits that can be used
in containers. We have the amdro type product, which is
a true bait. Come and get it is another version
(28:40):
of that. It's a true bait works very well. By
finthren is a good ant killer. It comes in all
sorts of most usual brand name, but the chemical in
it is by Finthren is an excellent ant killer. But
any of those would work in high biscus. If it
was a plant that was producing something edible, your choices
(29:03):
would be somewhat limited. But being that it's a high biscus,
the other thing you can do is to answer probably
coming from somewhere right around there. So if you use
an ant bait, a bifenthrene chemical bait, sprinkle the yard
area wherever it's closest to that pot, because you probably
have some ants there is where they're coming from.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Okay, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Also, I have a traillo that's about I guess six
feet line six feet tall. What what can I put
on that down the road? What do you all recommend
for a climbing plant?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Are you looking for something permanent? Something?
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, something? Bet for a permanent vine in this area
that's going to give you some bloom and keep winter foliage.
Is going to be Confederate jasmine, very fragrant, white blossom
in the summertime. I will keep its foliage all winter.
(30:06):
It has some cold susceptibility, some winners you will get
some die back on it, but it's a very aggressive grower,
will grow right back over the top of it. A
plant that's gained a lot of popularity in the spring
is the Katrina or Peggy Martin rose. It's going to
(30:27):
you're going to have to keep training it because it's
going to want to get larger than that trellis. But
the biggest issue I have with that plant, it's a
beautiful plant. I have one in my yard. I love it,
but it only blooms in the spring, So that's kind
of a limitation on that. You got any suggestions.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
What about a bog and Villa bogen villa.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You're going to probably have some cold susceptibility to it,
so being that's an excellent plant, but again you're going
to probably lose, if not the entire plant, most of
the plant every winter on that Confederate Jasmine is going
to be your best bet.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah, okay, okay, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
All right, thanks for the call, Patrick, And that does
open up phone lines at four nine five two six,
that's four nine nine WJBO. And if the producer is sleeping,
I'll just throw something at him to get him dance
of that phone call. But that was the bus going
over you, Jeremy.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Plant of the week, Yes, should we get a drum roll?
Oh wait, he's sleeping again. He doesn't have a drum roll.
American beauty berry, French mulberry, Cali Karpus americana, all the
same plant. Excellent. We were talking about fall plants earlier,
and I'm disappointed we didn't mention this one in the landscape.
(31:45):
A beautiful purple berry along the stem. Excellent, excellent fall plant.
One of the neat things about is excellent. If somebody
it's an excellent wildlife plant. Actually, I my degree from
LSU is in forestry and wildlife, and that's actually one
(32:06):
of the plants we picked up in dendro as a
wildlife plant. So it's a beautiful plant. Typically it's going
to grow. There's there's with so many of the plants nowadays,
there's a lot of cultivation going on and most of
the time you're going to see that plant be about
four maybe five foot tall, and it needs to have
some room where it can there's a term for it,
(32:29):
and I don't know what it is, where it's kind
of flowing. It's not you don't want to chop it
off into a square block. You want to allow it
to have that natural I won't say fountain shaped to it,
but beautiful purple berries in the along the stem in
the fall, excellent, excellent plant does usually defilate defoliate in
(32:49):
the winter. So it is something that you know, don't
put it right out in front of the house if
you have a little side bed, great accent in with
some azeias or something like that. But uh, American beauty
calikarpa americana French mulberry.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
French mulberry?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And yeah, so we were kind of confused yea as
to why it was called a French mulberry. But it's
actually just due to the historical association of it with
the French in the West Indies.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Ooh, I told you we finally had someone intelligent on
the show. It's kind of scary. Actually, let's find out
what Marcus has going on. Good morning, Marcus, welcome the
news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's Long Guarden Show. What
can we help you with?
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, good morning, enjoy the show. As far as a
fall garden, it's a too late to plant cacuza, the
Italian gord and Where can I get those seeds?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You can get the seeds at Clegg's. We should have
the seeds at all four location. I would you're too late.
That's something you really ought to plant in the spring.
It's for especially for a squash or a gourd. It
is a long I want to say it's ninety days,
maybe even one hundred days to picking. So you're not
(34:05):
going to have that long, hopefully that long before we
get a freezer hard cold snap here that would damage
that plant. So yeah, let's plant those in the spring.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Okay, great, thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
But yeah, you can get the seeds at Clegg's. Should
have them at all four locations. You're listening to news
radio eleven to fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden. So my
name is Butch Drew's. I'm here with Jessica from Seagan Lane. Wait,
people are getting paid for this show. No, maybe that's
so anything that well, actually I have to buy our
Chick fil A, so yeah, I actually am paying there.
(34:37):
But no, it's been a great show. There was something
came up in that break that oh I know what
it was the gentleman. I think it was John who
was asking about a vine for growing on. I think
it was a six by six trellis. Look at me
go with a memory, got a text during the break.
Another excellent option would be coral honeysuckle again, and it's
(35:01):
the actual true native honeysuckle. Most people think the yellow
and white is but that's actually an import from Japan.
But coral honeysuckle is actually a native honeysuckle. Excellent hummingbird
plant tends to be not real thick in foliage, but
again would be a great option. Something kind of light
in the area where the Confederate jasmine that I recommend
(35:22):
is going to be a very I'm gonna use the
word dense kind of like me. But anyway, so we've
covered a lot of things fall gardening. I want to
go back to that for just a couple of minutes,
oh before we do fall gardening, because I noticed it
in one of the emails I got Winter Riser. It
is the most inappropriately named fertilizer we have. It should
(35:48):
be called fallarizer. Yeah, because I'm gonna put you on
a spot. Do you eat when you're sleeping? No?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Okay, Well the only my on is the only person
I know that could actually eat and sleep at the
same time. So with grass, whenever you fertilize anything, you're
feeding it. So if that plant is dormant or sleeping,
it's not going to take it up. So if we
wait too long and the grass has gone into either
(36:19):
from a typical fall drought or whatever, gone into a
forest dormancy or even the true winter dormancy, we're wasting
our money putting a fertilizer out. So we want to
do our fall or winter rizing of our grass in
September while we're still cutting. Don't wait too long. So
I know all four stores have winter Rizer in the
(36:41):
new I think it's still in the blue bag I'm
putting Jessica's outside doesn't go in, so I'm putting on
the body here a little bit. But it's called winter
Riser with we prevent in it. One of the best
products fertile On, which has a great grouping of products,
one of the best products they ever came. They put
a pre emergent herbicide in with their winter Riser and
(37:01):
it is excellent for a lot of our winter weeds.
So sometime starting now, if you do it right now,
especially if they have an afternoon rain, would be perfect.
If not, let's water that in. But start thinking seriously
about your winter rise err on your lawns, because it
is time to get it out. Should we like maybe
put up what is it called a petition or what
(37:23):
is it called when you get a bunch of signatures?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah? Petitions?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Okay, to change the name to fallarizer.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, okay, you're good with that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Okay, I'm gonna put you in charge of it. Suddenly
it's not such a great idea, right Fall vegetable gardening
we talked about a little bit earlier in the show.
If you're doing fall tomatoes, you need to put them
in the ground. In fact, drop whatever you're doing right now,
run to the store, pick them up, and come back
and plant them, because it's very important. One of the
(37:56):
people that my wife follows on whatever she follows people on,
is actually doing carrot seeds, which I think it's a
little early for that, But if you're wanting to do something,
say to harvest around Thanksgiving. Carrots are an excellent crop.
I will do my carrots probably middle to end of September.
I'm actually real busy in October, so I need to
(38:17):
get my garden in early. I have as everybody here knows.
I have four grandkids and they love to come pull carrots.
Johnny has what he calls the Rainbow Mix. He mixes
the seeds himself and it has purple, orange, yellow, and
a red carrot in there, and it's really cool. The
(38:37):
kids will go out there and they'll pull a carrot
and it's kind of like underground Easter egg. Hint of
what color are you going to get? So that's something
I always like to get people. Get your kids involved
in gardening. Unfortunately, root crops don't do well in containers
or transplanting them, but they're still You brought up the broccoli,
(38:59):
Anna Claire, that intern here did science project on broccoli
plants and when the broccoli produced, those kids actually ate
it because they'd seen it growing. Now you go buy
it in the store, heinting nets. So yeah, get your
kids involved by growing it. And we just mentioned broccoli.
You mentioned cauliflower. Those can be growing in pots you
(39:23):
usually want to do. What would you say about a
ten inch pot?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, I've done broccoli in that.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
They produce very well if you have a limited area,
if you're in an apartment with a patio out there,
especially if it's facing west or south. You can grow
them quite well. So again, all your vegetable plants, it's
time to get in there, pull your weeds. If you
want to put put your amendments in there. Alfalfa humate
I love that product. That's one thing that I strongly
(39:49):
urge putting in depending on how big your garden is.
And you can talk to the experts at Clegg's. They'll
tell you, okay, you got twenty square feet, you need
one bag, you know on a alfalfa humate. Whenever you
go in kalaman or chicken manure. There's so many amendments
that now's the time to be putting that in there.
Work it in the soil. Then you'll be ready to
(40:10):
plant when you know, if you want to do it,
middle of next month, your soil is ready to go.
One of the cool things that we sell at Clegs
and I have started using it is a paper mulch
paper mhm. It looks like almost like a thin cardboard.
I roll that out over my garden and put my
(40:30):
we use shred of pine straw on top of our garden.
I do not weed my garden. Then at the end
of the season, I just work it into the soil.
It's actually a great organic amendment at the end of
the season, relatively inexpensive paper mulch. It's kind of brown
in color, so you do need to put something on
top otherwise it blows off, which is kind of neat,
(40:50):
you know, kind of anyway, we won't get into that.
I can't think of anything else. The plan of the
week is French Smullberry, American Beautyberry.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, beauty bearry.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, that's what we're calling it. Cleg's Nursery four locations
in the greater Baton Rouge area. This store on Don
More in mid city. We have the Segen Lane location
corner of Airline and Seagen Greenald Springs Road is at
the end of Sherwood Forest Boulevard, and our Denim Springs
store which is on Range Road right near Magnolia Bridge Road.
We are Cleg's Nursery. We are the independent garden center
(41:27):
in Baton Rouge. You've been listening to news radio eleven
to fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show, and I want
to put out a special thank you to Jessica for
finally bringing some brains to the ship. So we will
see you next Saturday morning from eight to nine. Enjoy
your day. Go Tigers,
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six And.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, Baton Rouge, and welcome to news radio eleven
fifty wjba's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is BUTCHERWS
and with me is Jessica. Good morning, finally after all
these years and intelligent voice. So good morning, good morning.
A lot going on in the lawn and garden business.
I know it's really hot out there, so if you
are going to get out and do anything, I would
(00:42):
strongly urge either do it early in the morning or
late in the evening because temperatures are pretty rough. I
know you're not having any fun in it, are you.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, it's been fun.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, as she rolls her eyes and almost passes out.
So but no, there is some things going on right now.
If you're all interested in vegetable gardening, you ought to
be getting busy. Probably your plants don't look real good.
What was in the garden, so you might want to
get out there and pull those. If you're wanting to
(01:16):
do fall tomatoes, you'll still have some.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yep, and we've started getting in broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
All kind of different, you know, col vegetables.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, that's good. Fall tomatoes. You need to have them planted.
In fact, you're almost getting to the point of being
laid on fall tomatoes. They should be called late summer tomatoes,
I think, because that's when when you should be plantinum
picking in the fall, not necessarily planting in the fall.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
A lot of.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
People and this is one of my I don't want
to say one of my favorite things to recommend to people,
because you were talking about the broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, those
type plants. I mean, if you want to get started.
In fact, my wife and I were talking about getting
some and putting them like in a six inch so
we can kind of control them, maybe even put them
in a little bit of shade, just to get them started,
(02:05):
so that say middle ten to September, they'll be larger
and we can put them out to grow. A lot
of people don't want to go to that effort, and
I really don't think I want to either, but my
wife does because I am the lazy gardener. But one
of the things that you can do if you pulled,
if your peppers have peppered out and your tomatoes are
definitely gone by now, a temperatures field piece excellent cover crop.
(02:28):
You can throw them out there. You don't have to
do anything to them. In fact, you don't want to
fertilize anything. Then at the end of the season, if
you want to pick the black eyed peas, whatever field
pea you plant it, If you want to pick them
and eat them, fine, If not, just cut the plants off,
leave the root system in there, and you've put nitrogen
in the soil. So that's something else.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You can do.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Right now, I'm sure we have a great selection of that,
and that is a seed you would want to go
from seed with that, not necessarily a plant. But one
of the things that I'm excited about is probably in
the nurse business. My weakest area has always been house plants,
where I think that's your strength. If I'm not mistaken
sure is uh to for you because you are You're
(03:12):
i think sort of in charge of the new house
plan area at segan Lang, which is beautiful. If you
haven't been by it since they've done the expansion. It
is just unbelievable and it's nice to have your decorative
touch in there with the plant material. But what do
you think is the most common issue people have with houseplants?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Probably watering?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Honestly, Oh, you mean I shouldn't water with a half
a cup of water every two weeks now.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
A lot of people tend to overwater house plants, I
think because they're used to having to water so much outside.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know, you're water and.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Every day every other day outside because everything's drying out quickly.
But indoors, you really only want to be watering like
once a week. It'll it'll depend.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So you were you were talking about overwater and should
they be underwatering it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
With house plants, it's better to underwater than to overwater
because you can come back from underwatering a lot easier
than you can from like a rot that comes from watering.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah. One of the things that I used to get
asked a lot, and it was always I hate to
do it, but I would do the eye roll and
all the whole thing because it's an almost an impossible
question to answer, how often should I water?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It is It is an impossible question because it it
depends on so many things like how big the.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Pot is, what kind of soils in the.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Pot, how long it's been in the pot.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
How long it's been in that pot. Yeah, what type
of plant is it? You know, how close is it
to like a window, how much light is it getting?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And you know what, I'm interrupting you, and I apologize
for that. But one of the things that people don't realize,
and we always pointed out during Christmas time with Christmas trees,
but especially in the winter months when we're running our heaters,
if that pot is close to the vent that's blowing up,
that's going to dry the soil out. So even though
it's winter and oh, we're not watering anything outside, as
(05:16):
you brought up, maybe that houseplant might need to be watered.
What's the best way to for a customer or for
the owner of a houseplant to know it's dry or
it needs to be Let me rephrase that question, needs
to be watered?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I think the best way if you're more of a beginner,
is to get like a moisture meter.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That was one of my favorite tools.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You just stick it in the soil and it'll tell
you exactly how wet or how dry the soil is.
So that way, you know you know exactly every time,
because it's really not going to be on a set schedule.
It's not going to be every ten days or every
two weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It'll you mean, when Saturday, when I'm taking a out,
I shouldn't put the plant in there with me. Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So if you're a beginner, easiest way is a moisture meter.
But over time you kind of learn your plants. You
see them droop, you can kind of tell, you know
that they need the water. Or you can feel the soil,
you know, if the top two inches are dry, if
the pot is lighter.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You know, I like, I like to feel the soil.
That's I've got ten moisture Well, actually only eight because
of my thumbs don't work very well, but I us
I used to do that do the if. I usually
tell people if you can feel moisture two knuckles down,
you're probably okay, Yeah, but what what about light light requirements?
(06:46):
You know, if you have an apartment and let's say
the apartment is facing north, what can you do?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, So a lot of times in our houses we
just don't have enough light for a lot of these
plants that are grown out in the tropics that want
a lot of bright, bright indirect light, but not necessarily
the direct sun. So what you can do is get
grow lights to put inside. There's all kind of different ones.
(07:14):
There's bulbs, there's strips, there's ones that will stick like
directly in the pot. There's many ways to add like
supplemental lighting that would help the plants a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And just putting it, especially with the new LED lighting,
just putting it under a fluorescent light isn't going to work,
is it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
No, No, it has to be an actual grow.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Light the plant spectrum. And you brought up a great
point there when you said house plants. And then one
of the most interesting things was not long after my
wife and I were married, LSU was playing in the
Orange Bowl in Miami and we're driving down the interstate
get headed to the hotel and we're looking out going
what are those trees? They're huge? And then they were
(08:00):
Norfolk Island pines that were grown as actually I mean,
you know, if we're talking forty to fifty foot trees.
They had hibiscus hedges, pothus ivy was groundcovers it's like, wait,
aren't these houseplants for us? They are, But your point
about being tropical basically tropical plants is very very true.
But if you want to get involved in the show,
(08:22):
give us called four nine two six. That's four nine
nine WJBO. We'll put you smack dab on top of
our list. But that's very interesting. Uh. Do you do
you recommend what I'm gonna call pot watering or watering
from the top, or do you like to set it?
My mom used to always take her house plants, put
(08:43):
them in the bathtub for about twenty minutes, let the
water out let, let's let them sit in there for
another hour or so, and then put them back.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
If if I'm lazy, I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The lazy gardener. Now wait, don't take that from me.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
So if I'm like I will just water them with
the water and can from above like sitting in their saucers. Yeah,
but if I have the extra time and feel like it,
I will take them, yeah, to the sink or the
bathtub and really soak them well, rinse all their leaves off,
and let them you know, drink.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Give me a shower. Yeah, yeah, but that's true. You know,
actually kind of a joke, but that is something that
we need to be concerned about with house plants inside,
especially if we have pets. He you don't want the
pet eating the plant, but also their dander and their
hair will create a pollutant on it, for lack of
a better word, on top of their leaves.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So yeah, just dust.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, it does exactly. So a little shower every once
in a while never hurt anybody. Maybe maybe I should
do more once a week, but I just totally and
completely lost that thought. Oh the saucer you were you
were talking about you, you know, and I understand. You
have a house plant. You know, you have a wood
floor lamin it for whatever carpeting. You don't want water
(10:04):
because you have holes in the containers and water's going
to leak out. So you have a saucer there, What
is the negative of a saucer? You know where I'm going.
You got that headshake going, Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
With the saucer, because like you said.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You want the pot to have drain holes so the
water can can go through.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You know, you don't want the water to be sitting
in the pot.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
But if you have a saucer, it'll obviously come out
of the pot and pull into the saucers. So what
you could do is go back behind after you're done
watering everything and just dump those saucers out.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I have used like.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
A turkey baster for some of like my larger pots,
and you just suck the water out of the saucer
and just put it in a bowl. So, like, if
it's a big pot, you know, you don't have to
move it and try to pull the saucer out. But yeah,
you really don't want to leave them sitting in that water.
If you know, there's a good bad.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You mentioned right earlier with overwatering. Well, if you leave
water in that saucer, what if you did like a
decorative rock in that saucer so that the water was
in that but the pot was actually above it, that
would work too.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, Yeah, yeah, that would work us.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The decorative rocks would be pretty Yeah, but my dog
would eat them. I have a strange shock might take
after me. We actually are headed into the fall season
of listening to the news the other day and actually
heard the words cool front in cool front, I just
I don't think I've ever heard that before. But pumpkins fall,
(11:41):
duck perkins, Haybales the corn stalks, Thank you corn. So
it will all be coming in next week, right around
the I think he said the eighth and the ninth
of September. But you were telling me during the break preparation.
I can't believe it. For oh, give us call for
nine nine ninety five two six, and you'll see what
(12:03):
kind of preparation we've done here. But you are starting
to get some of the i'm gonna call fall decorating plants,
in which first one you mentioned was a croat, in
which I mean, hey, you got what orange red yellows.
I hate to use the word brown in a leaf,
but it's actually.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, it's almost a black, it's a.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But it's a fall collar. Yeah, I mean, and you
look at a croat and you go, wow, this is
you know, this is fallen. Well, it's a tropical plant.
I'm wont probably lose it in the freezer. I'm gonna
have to protect it. And all it's twenty bucks. What's
that two cups of coffee? It's Starbucks, you know, and
you have it for you know, if you purchase it.
(12:49):
When if you come in and get your gorge pumpkins
and get a croaton or two at the same time,
or you can come in now and have it out
there by the front door and don't forget the water.
But you know, you see those and it's like at
the front door and nobody nobody uses there. Why do
we even have front doors on houses anymore? Nobody uses them,
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But you know, you forget about it out there. So
you do need to get on a watering schedule or
at least a watering check schedule on that. But moms,
they're not blooming yet. I don't I wouldn't think. But
moms are good for later into the fall of really,
once the sec schedule gets started and the parties really start,
they'll start to bloom. But one of the things Scott
(13:31):
Rick and I and I really want your opinion Jessica
on this is instead of moms, why not use marigolds.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I love that idea, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Because there's nothing wrong with a mom. If you're having
a party on Saturday and you run by and see
Jessica on Wednesday or Thursday and she's got those ten
inch moms that are just gorgeous in color, and you
want to buy three of those and put them out
there for that party, that's great, But how long is Mom,
I'm gonna bloom realistically peak bloom two weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
How long is the marigold going to bloom for you?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Longer?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah? Two months up until the first first cold snap
knocks it off, especially if you go out there and
dead head a little bit, and they give you the yellows,
the yellows and reds. They give you those fall colors
and with a much longer bloom. And now I'm going
to get your opinion on something and then I'll give
you mine. Ornamental peppers, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I don't hate them.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But I.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Love them.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I just don't I know, I know, I know Brandon,
Brayden and Michael and several of the managers read it.
They love ornamental peppers in the fall. I just don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know, it's cute. They're colorful, but they're not They're
not false.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, you know so anyway, But like I said, ornamental gourds, pumpkins,
all that, and there's some you know. That's one of
the things I guess. I you know, everybody knows my history.
I worked for Naylor's Hardware forever until we flooded out
in sixteen, unfortunately, and I'm still very thankful. Tom Finnell
and Scott Ricca hired all of the Naylor's crew most
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of this, most of them had gone on or doing
other things, but hired us all on. And that was
one of the things that was the first fall with
all the different pumpkins, you know, the Cinderellas and the
spiders and the ghosts, and it's like, wow, they're not
all orangeing around the turks. What is it Turk's caboc
(15:37):
turban or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm
putting this on the spot here. You know, I'm old
and see now, but I do it well. But anyway,
that's that's neat, you know, Crotons and marigolds to me
or fall, you know. And yeah, the moms. I understand
the point behind that, because if you want to do purple,
that's real hard to find a purple marigal. In fact,
(15:58):
I think it's impossible. But anyway, give us call four six,
that's four nine nine, WJBO get you put some mac
dab on top of our list. What other fall betting
plants are you starting to see in the nursery.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Let me think we've been getting some dianthus.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah, they're all pink and purple. They are not really
fall colors.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But I mean, the nice thing about dianthus, especially if
you go through and dead head them from time to time,
is elle actually last a couple of years. Here. It
can kind of struggle a little bit in the heat,
but they tend to walk through go through pretty well.
But you do need to dead head them, and that's
pretty common of all betting plants, because an annual wants
to go to seed. If it goes to seed, it
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cuts out, so we want dead head.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
We've also still got tons of kalladiums that are on sale.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Ooh, it's a nice pick up some kaladiums. You might
go ahead and get them planted. Do you recommend digging
your kaladium bulbs or leaving them in the ground.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I've really only like done them in pots myself, so
I've always just like taken them out, so I have
never tried just leaving them.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well. Being president of the Lazy Gardener Club, I leave
them the ground, and actually for the most part I've
had but then we have relatively good draining beds. But
if you have areas or you have a very wet winter,
you're going to probably lose your or if it's real,
real cold, you're going to lose your bulb if you
leave it in the ground. But again, I just again,
(17:44):
I'm lazy, so I tend to leave them in the ground.
And I totally lost where I was going to go.
I had something very important to bring up. But oh,
can I get the soapbox? Please hold on, I gotta
us it off. Okay, okay, good, the soapboxes over here.
(18:05):
Please do not come into any of our four locations
for the next month and a half and ask for pansies.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Oh I had someone ask for snapdragons yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yes, almost as bad. There is a pathogen in our
soils and all our soils. You know, it's nothing that
you've done. Nothing, Cleggs has done nothing. Come in with
pots that you bought from who knows where. But it's
(18:39):
just here in our saw And what it does is
it causes what we call damping off. The pathogen attacks
the stem of the plant. Right it's and it's the
easiest thing for us in the business to know what
happened when people bring these pansy plants in and right
there it's soil line. It's black well, guess what mister,
isactonia jumped on there and ate it. Pans are rise
(19:01):
like tonia ice cream. I mean they love it so
and the best way to combat it there's really no
soil treatment there. There is, but it's very difficult to do.
So what we do is we plant when that pathogen's asleep,
and it's a sleep at certain it's only a wake
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at a very limited temperature range, which is affected by moisture.
But typically once our soil temperatures get below about seven
sixty five seventy it goes to sleep. And conversely, in
the summer, once our soil temperatures get above about seventy
five to eighty, it goes to sleep. So we want
to do is we want to wait on panty planting
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pansies until our soil temperatures go down. And how's the
best way to tell soil temperatures a soil thermometer. The
ideal gift for any gardener is a soil thermometer. It
is I know you brought up moisture meter, and people
(20:06):
that listen to the show know my feelings about moisture meter. Sorry,
like I said, I think my finger does a much
better job. But soil thermometers vegetable planters. When do you
plant your carrot seeds? When do you plant your tomato
plants in the spring, depends on soil temperatures and if
you are if you plant venca in the summertime, venka
(20:26):
is rise like tonia ice cream. For the summer it
gets but again once the soil temperatures get above a
certain range, it goes asleep. We can plant the venka,
it goes all summer long, dies out once we get cold.
Then we put the pansies in once the soil temperature
has gone below their range. So salt thermometer can help
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you out a lot, but please, snap dragons are also
susceptible to it, not quite as much as pansies are.
But again, like you said, please don't come in for
at least they're month and a half and asked for
pansies or snap dragons. You know, one of the things
I love in planting is snapdragons to the back and
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pansies or viola is in front. And you know, you
can get whatever color combination you want to do that with.
But that just always looks so good. And we do
have a caller who called us at four five two six.
That's fort nine nine WJBO. Let's go see what John's got.
Good morning, John, Welcome to news Radio eleven fifty wjbo's
line Garden Show. What can we do for you?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Well, thank you O so much for taking my call.
I need to plant some trees. We had some Bradford pears,
but they were older and you know what they did,
mm hmm. And I'd like to plant some trees, but
they're between a driveway and a house. There's about fifteen feet.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But I want.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Something that uh hopefully will not destroy either slab.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You can if it's sticking with flowering trees. Fringe tree
is a beautiful tree. You see them in the spring
blooming around town. They look like that big white lollipop
all over town. Excellent, relatively small growing flowering tree. Crpe
myrtles are always an option in Baton Rouge, you know.
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And you have all different height ranges there, you know,
all of them. I mean, I have a Natchez crape
myrtle that's probably probably thirty or forty feet. It's planted
about eight to ten foot from my slab, and I
got no problems whatsoever, So that would be an option
in there. If you're looking for something evergreen, some of
(22:43):
the hollies Dahune Holly, Eagleston Holly, Savannah hollys would work.
Those would be more evergreen for you. But I you
got any other suggestions, Jessica, No, yeah, I was going
to say the crape myrtle or fringe tree if you
want to. They they usually have some beautiful fifteen gallons
thirty gallons at Seagan Clegg's Segan. But that, to me,
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in the spring is just one of the most striking
trees that you can see. But it does only bloom
in the spring, where the crape myrtle, like Jessica was saying,
will bloom more throughout the summer for you. So one
of those threes go ahead.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
I was gonna say, honestly, I'm not worried about blooms.
I'm more worried about.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Shade okay, wild wild fire gum. It's not a real
tall growing tree. It does it's an excellent, very fast
growing shade tree. It's not going to create a lot
of root system underneath there. That would probably be my
option for a shade tree. Something a little bit slower
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growing would maybe be one of the dwarf Magnolia's. But
once you get into like your maples and your oaks,
that's a little bit more constricted area than you'd really
want to do.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Okay, what do you call it a wildfire?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, it's actually y'all have those because that's where I live.
I think. I think I keep up with inventory coming
in because I do a lot of the price changes
still for them, and I think I saw this. They
get a shipment of those not long ago, so yes
they should. Oh yeah, definitely. It's a tree that they
carry all the time because it does a beautiful job
(24:23):
with fall color and actually even during the spring when
it's leafing out, it'll give you some leaf color. But
excellent tree is not gonna go real big should should
be able to handle that area very well, say big
about forty feet.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
That's way more than eight so that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Sounds good. Thanks for calling, John, Thank you so much.
Thank you. My name is BUTCHERWS. I am with Jessica
from Clegg's Nursery. Good morning, good morning, anyway, great first
half hour. If you missed any of it, or we
would like to re listen to any of it, you
can go to our podcast. I wish I knew what
(25:03):
a podcast was, But I've been told that it's out there,
but no. Jeremy does a great job, usually has that
up within a couple hours after the show, and you
can go back probably a couple of years worth of shows.
If you have insomnia, you can definitely take care of that.
We actually have another caller gave us a call for
nine six. That's for nine nine WJBO. Let's go to John.
(25:26):
Good morning John, what can we do for you today?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Good morning guys. I really enjoy the show, Thanks for
all the information. I recently had some construction done in
my backyard and took advantage of that by having the
backyard completely reshotted in some beautiful Saint Augustine grass.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
I like you, John, Yeah, I know, I love it too.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
I love it too. I recently had to level off
some low spots with some new soil in there, and
I want to take some of the runners that I've got,
some of the beautiful runners that I've got, and plant
them in the parts that I had to level off.
But I've never had any luck with that. Within two
(26:05):
weeks they dry up and die out. Is there a
secret to planning Saint Augustine runners or just don't do it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh no, it's I'm not gonna say it's relatively easy
because of the temperatures we're dealing with right now. But
my father in law resided a backyard with cuttings he
made whenever he edged his front yard, so it can
easily be done. Water is essential. You're going to be
putting water on it almost every day, Okay, so I
(26:36):
mean you will be let me rephrase that, you will
be watering it every day. In fact, in some instances,
depending on soil type, where exactly it is, you may
have to be watering a couple times until that those
roots get out. It's not impossible to do. It is
going to require some effort this time of year, though,
But yeah, like I said, my father in law put
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his backyard in Saint Augustine. From Saint Augustine, he cut
out of his front yard, so it can be done.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
So you don't have to pull the runner up by
the root or anything, or clip it in a special spot.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And just clip wherever when you look at the runner,
wherever the grass blades are coming out of the runner
on one side, it will root on the other side.
So if you can put that runner, make sure you
have good soil contact or maybe even just slightly slightly
buried by that, maybe half of the runner buried will
(27:33):
probably make it easier or especially from the moisture standpoint,
but yeah, it's just more of a moisture thing. But no,
wherever grass blades come out one side, roots come out
to the other side on a runner.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
So excellent. That's what I needed to know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
All right, Thanks for phone call, John, and that does
open up phone lines right now. Four two six s's
four nine nine ww we have another. Let's go to Patrick.
Good morning Patrick. That good morning Patrick. Welcome to news
radio eleven fifty wjbos lone Garden Show. What can we
do for you today?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I have ants and a potted plant. It's a high
biscus outside on the patio.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
What do I do with that?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I would strongly urge you to get your uncles to
take them home. Oh sorry about that, I had to
do it. There's several ant baits that can be used
in containers. We have the amdro type product, which is
a true bait. Come and get it is another version
(28:40):
of that. It's a true bait works very well. By
finthren is a good ant killer. It comes in all
sorts of most usual brand name, but the chemical in
it is by Finthren is an excellent ant killer. But
any of those would work in high biscus. If it
was a plant that was producing something edible, your choices
(29:03):
would be somewhat limited. But being that it's a high biscus,
the other thing you can do is to answer probably
coming from somewhere right around there. So if you use
an ant bait, a bifenthrene chemical bait, sprinkle the yard
area wherever it's closest to that pot, because you probably
have some ants there is where they're coming from.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Okay, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Also, I have a traillo that's about I guess six
feet line six feet tall. What what can I put
on that down the road? What do you all recommend
for a climbing plant?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Are you looking for something permanent? Something?
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, something? Bet for a permanent vine in this area
that's going to give you some bloom and keep winter foliage.
Is going to be Confederate jasmine, very fragrant, white blossom
in the summertime. I will keep its foliage all winter.
(30:06):
It has some cold susceptibility, some winners you will get
some die back on it, but it's a very aggressive grower,
will grow right back over the top of it. A
plant that's gained a lot of popularity in the spring
is the Katrina or Peggy Martin rose. It's going to
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you're going to have to keep training it because it's
going to want to get larger than that trellis. But
the biggest issue I have with that plant, it's a
beautiful plant. I have one in my yard. I love it,
but it only blooms in the spring, So that's kind
of a limitation on that. You got any suggestions.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
What about a bog and Villa bogen villa.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You're going to probably have some cold susceptibility to it,
so being that's an excellent plant, but again you're going
to probably lose, if not the entire plant, most of
the plant every winter on that Confederate Jasmine is going
to be your best bet.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah, okay, okay, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
All right, thanks for the call, Patrick, And that does
open up phone lines at four nine five two six,
that's four nine nine WJBO. And if the producer is sleeping,
I'll just throw something at him to get him dance
of that phone call. But that was the bus going
over you, Jeremy.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Plant of the week, Yes, should we get a drum roll?
Oh wait, he's sleeping again. He doesn't have a drum roll.
American beauty berry, French mulberry, Cali Karpus americana, all the
same plant. Excellent. We were talking about fall plants earlier,
and I'm disappointed we didn't mention this one in the landscape.
(31:45):
A beautiful purple berry along the stem. Excellent, excellent fall plant.
One of the neat things about is excellent. If somebody
it's an excellent wildlife plant. Actually, I my degree from
LSU is in forestry and wildlife, and that's actually one
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of the plants we picked up in dendro as a
wildlife plant. So it's a beautiful plant. Typically it's going
to grow. There's there's with so many of the plants nowadays,
there's a lot of cultivation going on and most of
the time you're going to see that plant be about
four maybe five foot tall, and it needs to have
some room where it can there's a term for it,
(32:29):
and I don't know what it is, where it's kind
of flowing. It's not you don't want to chop it
off into a square block. You want to allow it
to have that natural I won't say fountain shaped to it,
but beautiful purple berries in the along the stem in
the fall, excellent, excellent plant does usually defilate defoliate in
(32:49):
the winter. So it is something that you know, don't
put it right out in front of the house if
you have a little side bed, great accent in with
some azeias or something like that. But uh, American beauty
calikarpa americana French mulberry.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
French mulberry?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And yeah, so we were kind of confused yea as
to why it was called a French mulberry. But it's
actually just due to the historical association of it with
the French in the West Indies.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Ooh, I told you we finally had someone intelligent on
the show. It's kind of scary. Actually, let's find out
what Marcus has going on. Good morning, Marcus, welcome the
news radio eleven to fifty wjbo's Long Guarden Show. What
can we help you with?
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, good morning, enjoy the show. As far as a
fall garden, it's a too late to plant cacuza, the
Italian gord and Where can I get those seeds?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You can get the seeds at Clegg's. We should have
the seeds at all four location. I would you're too late.
That's something you really ought to plant in the spring.
It's for especially for a squash or a gourd. It
is a long I want to say it's ninety days,
maybe even one hundred days to picking. So you're not
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going to have that long, hopefully that long before we
get a freezer hard cold snap here that would damage
that plant. So yeah, let's plant those in the spring.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Okay, great, thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
But yeah, you can get the seeds at Clegg's. Should
have them at all four locations. You're listening to news
radio eleven to fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden. So my
name is Butch Drew's. I'm here with Jessica from Seagan Lane. Wait,
people are getting paid for this show. No, maybe that's
so anything that well, actually I have to buy our
Chick fil A, so yeah, I actually am paying there.
(34:37):
But no, it's been a great show. There was something
came up in that break that oh I know what
it was the gentleman. I think it was John who
was asking about a vine for growing on. I think
it was a six by six trellis. Look at me
go with a memory, got a text during the break.
Another excellent option would be coral honeysuckle again, and it's
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the actual true native honeysuckle. Most people think the yellow
and white is but that's actually an import from Japan.
But coral honeysuckle is actually a native honeysuckle. Excellent hummingbird
plant tends to be not real thick in foliage, but
again would be a great option. Something kind of light
in the area where the Confederate jasmine that I recommend
(35:22):
is going to be a very I'm gonna use the
word dense kind of like me. But anyway, so we've
covered a lot of things fall gardening. I want to
go back to that for just a couple of minutes,
oh before we do fall gardening, because I noticed it
in one of the emails I got Winter Riser. It
is the most inappropriately named fertilizer we have. It should
(35:48):
be called fallarizer. Yeah, because I'm gonna put you on
a spot. Do you eat when you're sleeping? No?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Okay, Well the only my on is the only person
I know that could actually eat and sleep at the
same time. So with grass, whenever you fertilize anything, you're
feeding it. So if that plant is dormant or sleeping,
it's not going to take it up. So if we
wait too long and the grass has gone into either
(36:19):
from a typical fall drought or whatever, gone into a
forest dormancy or even the true winter dormancy, we're wasting
our money putting a fertilizer out. So we want to
do our fall or winter rizing of our grass in
September while we're still cutting. Don't wait too long. So
I know all four stores have winter Rizer in the
(36:41):
new I think it's still in the blue bag I'm
putting Jessica's outside doesn't go in, so I'm putting on
the body here a little bit. But it's called winter
Riser with we prevent in it. One of the best
products fertile On, which has a great grouping of products,
one of the best products they ever came. They put
a pre emergent herbicide in with their winter Riser and
(37:01):
it is excellent for a lot of our winter weeds.
So sometime starting now, if you do it right now,
especially if they have an afternoon rain, would be perfect.
If not, let's water that in. But start thinking seriously
about your winter rise err on your lawns, because it
is time to get it out. Should we like maybe
put up what is it called a petition or what
(37:23):
is it called when you get a bunch of signatures?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah? Petitions?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Okay, to change the name to fallarizer.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, okay, you're good with that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Okay, I'm gonna put you in charge of it. Suddenly
it's not such a great idea, right Fall vegetable gardening
we talked about a little bit earlier in the show.
If you're doing fall tomatoes, you need to put them
in the ground. In fact, drop whatever you're doing right now,
run to the store, pick them up, and come back
and plant them, because it's very important. One of the
(37:56):
people that my wife follows on whatever she follows people on,
is actually doing carrot seeds, which I think it's a
little early for that, But if you're wanting to do something,
say to harvest around Thanksgiving. Carrots are an excellent crop.
I will do my carrots probably middle to end of September.
I'm actually real busy in October, so I need to
(38:17):
get my garden in early. I have as everybody here knows.
I have four grandkids and they love to come pull carrots.
Johnny has what he calls the Rainbow Mix. He mixes
the seeds himself and it has purple, orange, yellow, and
a red carrot in there, and it's really cool. The
(38:37):
kids will go out there and they'll pull a carrot
and it's kind of like underground Easter egg. Hint of
what color are you going to get? So that's something
I always like to get people. Get your kids involved
in gardening. Unfortunately, root crops don't do well in containers
or transplanting them, but they're still You brought up the broccoli,
(38:59):
Anna Claire, that intern here did science project on broccoli
plants and when the broccoli produced, those kids actually ate
it because they'd seen it growing. Now you go buy
it in the store, heinting nets. So yeah, get your
kids involved by growing it. And we just mentioned broccoli.
You mentioned cauliflower. Those can be growing in pots you
(39:23):
usually want to do. What would you say about a
ten inch pot?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, I've done broccoli in that.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
They produce very well if you have a limited area,
if you're in an apartment with a patio out there,
especially if it's facing west or south. You can grow
them quite well. So again, all your vegetable plants, it's
time to get in there, pull your weeds. If you
want to put put your amendments in there. Alfalfa humate
I love that product. That's one thing that I strongly
(39:49):
urge putting in depending on how big your garden is.
And you can talk to the experts at Clegg's. They'll
tell you, okay, you got twenty square feet, you need
one bag, you know on a alfalfa humate. Whenever you
go in kalaman or chicken manure. There's so many amendments
that now's the time to be putting that in there.
Work it in the soil. Then you'll be ready to
(40:10):
plant when you know, if you want to do it,
middle of next month, your soil is ready to go.
One of the cool things that we sell at Clegs
and I have started using it is a paper mulch
paper mhm. It looks like almost like a thin cardboard.
I roll that out over my garden and put my
(40:30):
we use shred of pine straw on top of our garden.
I do not weed my garden. Then at the end
of the season, I just work it into the soil.
It's actually a great organic amendment at the end of
the season, relatively inexpensive paper mulch. It's kind of brown
in color, so you do need to put something on
top otherwise it blows off, which is kind of neat,
(40:50):
you know, kind of anyway, we won't get into that.
I can't think of anything else. The plan of the
week is French Smullberry, American Beautyberry.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, beauty bearry.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, that's what we're calling it. Cleg's Nursery four locations
in the greater Baton Rouge area. This store on Don
More in mid city. We have the Segen Lane location
corner of Airline and Seagen Greenald Springs Road is at
the end of Sherwood Forest Boulevard, and our Denim Springs
store which is on Range Road right near Magnolia Bridge Road.
We are Cleg's Nursery. We are the independent garden center
(41:27):
in Baton Rouge. You've been listening to news radio eleven
to fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show, and I want
to put out a special thank you to Jessica for
finally bringing some brains to the ship. So we will
see you next Saturday morning from eight to nine. Enjoy
your day. Go Tigers,
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