July 19, 2025 • 41 mins
Watching where you're using that weedeater, herbicide tips, and knowing just what's in your lawn care products are what we're taking about this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Scott and Dr. Allen from Clegg's Nursery!
Plus it's a two-fer for the plant of the week as we discuss buddleias and plum yew!
And thanks to all our callers, asking questions about planting the right shade tree, how much mulch to put at the bottom of a tree, fighting Bermuda grass, bubblegum petunias, and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
Plus it's a two-fer for the plant of the week as we discuss buddleias and plum yew!
And thanks to all our callers, asking questions about planting the right shade tree, how much mulch to put at the bottom of a tree, fighting Bermuda grass, bubblegum petunias, and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the wgb O Lone
and Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If
you have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden
concerns are questions about landscaping called four ninety nine w GBO.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine six. Good morning, baton rouge.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's a beautiful day here in the Capitol City here
at the WWO Lawn and Garden Show. My name is
Scott Ricco with Clegg's Nursery here this morning with doctor
Allan Owings wearing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
His cleg shirt. Thank you very much for that Alan.
Good morning, Scott one. But you have a whole closet
full of shirts. I do, I do.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm trying to be presentable in stylish you know, No,
I mean, I mean not just Clegg's. You you wear some.
I got my LSU stuff and my Bracy stick races. Yeah,
I've got some of these new LSU tropical looking shirts
that are all purple and gold and flowery.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That sounds cool.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Then I got me a new LSU shirt that's purple
and gold, but it's a USA theme. Uh huh, I'm
getting attention.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh jeez, it's going to be a beautiful day. And
it's always enjoyable to be here with you. I think
that a lot of times when you and I are here,
I get to talk about things that I don't on
other times.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Sometimes I feel sometimes I feel that same way too.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And you just just mentioned just very quickly right before
we went on air that you had just gone to
some of the plant trials recently, and right, so that's
a big thing for you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You go, do you go to two sets a year,
spring and fall? What do you do?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Or so? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So yesterday and Hammond at the LSU Accenter research station
there we have the Landscape Horticulture Field Day, and that's
the day that they have every summer now for the
industry to come and look at some of the new
and older bedding plants.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I was there last year.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It was really nice and I enjoyed that you had
some irrigation work that they described and.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Doctor Damon Abdy's just putting in some rain guard and research.
And one of the LSU horticultur agents talked about a
blueberry trial they have over there about twenty five varieties.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They even had.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Trees planted in different with different methodology to see what
actually his best. Quite often I still find when people
come in and having problems with their plants and things
that sometimes improper planting procedure. And unfortunately, when I started,
(02:48):
I was I was somebody to dish that out all
over the place. You know, you get twice as wide,
twice as deep, throw the clay away, put in some
good potting soil. And through through research and uh, you know,
we have found it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's not that's not the that's right, that's a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You use the same soil that was in the planting hole,
that goes back into the planting hole.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But it's but it's clay.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, But sooner or later the plants got to grow
and what that what God put there?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I tell people it's tough love. You have to tell
them that what they got to begin with. And then
also ill, you know, depending on where we are nurse,
I'll point out at all the big trees and things
around the nurture. You see all those guess what they're
planted in. You're in clay. You know, nobody truy did anything.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
It's all it's all about putting the right plant in
the right place. And yes, but a lot of the
problems that you do see a few years after planting
are directly related to how the plant was planted and
whether you maintain mulch at the base or whether you
let weeds get up around the base of your trees.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And then you're striking it with the weed either. But
I'm really careful and exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I can remember one time we were at something in
New Orleans. It was a nursery event informational study, and
somebody was there and was talking about some trees on
Esplanade Street in the New Orleans and they were having
such trouble and never taking pictures of them, and the
(04:23):
bottom were just cut up unbelievably with weed eater. And
I said something, oh, weed eater, canker, and he stopped me.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
He looked at me and goes, oh, I like that.
Can I use that? Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But yeah, it just tears up, you know, the tissue,
the vascular tissue, the veins of the plant are right
underneath the bark. And you get something like a crape
myrtle that's got such a thin bark it can scrape
with your fingernail and you're hitting it with the weed earner,
and I don't care if you think you're careful or not,
that thing is spending how fast And even if you
accidentally touch it just for a moment, you already struck
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at god knows how many times, and you are messing
up the veins of that plant. And that's why you
get sometimes as big old knobs and some extra suckers
that don't stop because you keep striking it over and
over and over again, and it's just horrible.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, but I get at least one or two questions
a week about girdling of a tree from a weed Eaterye,
and somebody's uh had a Japanese maple that's like fifteen
years old a couple of weeks ago, and it got
girdled by the person that.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Cuts this lawn for somebody. Yeah, it's and once.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's even halfway girdle, it's going to go downhill and
it's not going to recover.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's right, it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And there's something yeah, Yeah, you got a twenty year
old oak tree and it's got that big old thick
bark on it.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, go down. Take a little bit more abuse, and
I don't purposely do it. Yeah, you know you're gonna
be a little bit uh, less careful.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's safer to free glacifate around the base of the planet.
It is advice, the fate being the old run up right, right.
You know that's something's very difficult for me now because
you know I've been using roundup as a generic term
for so many years.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Now the roundup brand doesn't have the same set of chemicals.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Right, right, And all the home gardeners don't understand this
change that has been made.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
There are limitations on that. You're only supposed to I
forget seventeen day interval or something right or longer. Right,
And there's a limitation how many times how much you
spray in an area over a year.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, that are on the label that nobody's going to
look at exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
And that's another common question too, Well, how much ounces
of this insecticide do you put per gallon when you're
spraying this particular insecticide for this particular insect. Well, it's
all on the label. Well, they want to call us,
you know, they don't don't want to read the light,
right is their responsibility? So should we ask people how
(07:06):
to call in this morning? If or did you say.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That I didn't even say it. Yeah, we just.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Jumped right into it. But we're here this morning and
you can actually pick up the phone and call us
at two six or four nine nine w JBO. I
also to remind people if if you're you know, if
we go through some stuff and you don't have a
pencil and paper to write it down right now, you
can go back to the iHeartRadio app is free. We
(07:32):
have the w JBO Lawn and Garden Show, and I
forget how long we've been doing it, but we've been
doing it for a fairly long time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Now you can go back to all of.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Them and uh and and pick up on little tiny
tidbits that that you thought you heard. Or sometimes I
do that on other things. It's like there was something
on such and such, and I'll go back and off once.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
In a while, I check to see some what some
of us are talking about. When I'm not here, I
do too.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I listened to it, so uh yeah, because you know,
we get phone calls at the store and it's nice
to know what was discussed.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
And every Friday on the Clegs Nursery Facebook page, I'm
putting a post that takes you to all the past
episodes and tells you who's going to be on the
show the next day and the phone number and how
you can listen on the radio or the iHeart app,
and or.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They could always just come into the stores.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know. That's when we do you have if you
don't know already, we have four locations in and outside
of the bat Rouge area.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
We have.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
The Donal More location, which is the oldest of the
existing locations.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Wasn't the first location.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
There used to be a vacant lot down on Florida
Boulevard first location. Okay, When I first started the store,
a lot of the older customers always referred to the
Donal Store as the Florida Street Store because there's little
strip mall in front of it. What I'm there and
you could see, Yeah, so that was very common. They'd
say the Florida Street Store.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Then we have Seagan Lane, and then the Greenwell Springs location,
and then the Denham Springs locations. So and then we
also have the Color Division Greenhouses, which are adjacent to
the Grendel Springs location, which I'll just throw it out
right now. Usually in November, usually the weekend after Thanksgiving,
we have an open house there with the right points,
(09:16):
about gorgeous, about ten thousand points sed, it's just just
a full color, yeah, just the one or two. So,
but yeah, y'all can if y'all have any questions today,
pick up the phone. Calls at four nine six. It's
four nine W GBO, and we'll be glad to entertain
your question.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And I don't know if you and Tom know this, Scott,
but I regularly have folks asked me, well, when is
Kleg's going to open a location in ham And then
when are y'all going to come to Covington or winter?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Now I hadn't had those two, but there's been numerous
ones before.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
We have a hard time doing what we do with.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Four Yeah, you know, staffing is a is a little
difficult sometimes. Now we do a fairly good job. Would
like to always, would like to do better, Yes, but yeah,
what do you call it when you start selling the
rights and you let the the building or the like restaurants? Franchise? Franchise,
(10:15):
that's the words franchise. I thought I just saw Jeremy
Porcine just perk up. I think he might have a
I don't know. Oh again, call us if you have
any questions otherwise we'll just kind of talk about.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It and then and then going back to the herbicize
and insecticides, and some of the insecticides have changed active
ingredients also in the last five to six years.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, I am not update on that as good
as I need.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh, it's it's it's like seven. Yes, used to be carburel.
Well it's not anymore. Then then the liquid was something else,
but the powder was still carbaryl right.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well now now they're all something else.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yes, Yes, the product eight used to all be promethrons,
you know, synthetic pyreth right, Well, now some are and
some aren't.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, so that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So you have to you have to look. Things change,
and it's the way the laws are written. They can
keep the name and they can change the the composition
easier than developing a new name. And it's a lot
less expensive for him, I'm sure so.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
And some of these changes on the insecticide or to
be more be friendly and pollinator friendly. Absolutely, and so
you know, not every insecticide is that's detrimental to our
pollinators as some people think they are.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So no, and even.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
How you apply and when you apply, yes, it has
a lot to do if you have an apple tree
and you're you're trying to do your late winter spring
in your spring it when it's in full bloom, Well,
that's horrible for the pollinators, right, So you know, there's
we spray before the flowers are really when the flowers
are swelling, which sometimes they call it bud swell or
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pink stage. We spray it then before the bees are
really in it. Then we wait till the majority of
the flowers have fallen off. So there are things that
we do also just in timing and picking the right
insect aside, and you know, you should always strive to
know what you're trying to control. People, especially with herbicide. People, Oh,
(12:31):
I need something to spray on my lawn. Well, what's
the problem. I've got stuff in it? What's you know what?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Stuff?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know, and then they then you get a picture
that's taken about ten feet away.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's a green patch on it.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So if you ever are.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Needing help in the herbicide range, especially for you lawn
or bring if you can bring a sample in, it
makes so much.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
A difference.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And knowing what you're trying to control gives you the
opportunity to put the best thing out for that control
instead of just guessing and wasting your time and wasting
your money and all that other stuff. But you mentioned
a moment ago, it's on the label how much to mix.
(13:26):
You know a lot of people mix it right, but
then they don't put it out right. I've mixed x amount.
I put three tablespoons in a gallon of water and
I sprayed it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
How much her you spray it over? Well, I don't know.
I sprayed it. Try it ran out.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Well, maybe that was only supposed to treat five hundred
square feet and you sprayed it over fifteen hundred square feet.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, there's not enough chemical to do. Maybe it was
supposed to treat fifteen.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Hundred square feet and you sprayed it over five hundred
square feet, and now you're killing the grass that you
were trying to help.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Exactly. So we've got it. We got and then time
you're in temperature.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Absolutely there's a lot of perversize. If it's above ninety degrees,
don't spray on you long. You'll have a lot of
collateral damage. We do have our first car, and let's
go to Jim. Jim, good morning, Thanks for calling the
WJBO lawn and guard show.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What can I help you with?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Good morning, gentlemen. My biggest concern is that I would
like to plant a shade tree in the backyard of
my house, or future plans of putting a little small pergola.
And the backside of my house faces south, and I
get sun all day long from probably around ten am
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to after five pm, and it's hot during the summertime,
and my main objective is to try to put a
shade tree back there to where my wife and I
can go back there and sit up under the shade
tree and just enjoy the afternoon without bacon in the
ninety five degree heat.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yep, that's the only time I would say that bacon
isn't good.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
That did give me some bacon, but not that bacon.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So Jim, So you're trying to have a tree, I
guess you want.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean you could.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
One of the things I would tell you, or would ask,
what do you want that tree to mature at? Do
you want a tree that's going to grow eighty feet tall?
Is it if it's a crape myrtle that grows twenty
five feet tall?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is that big enough? Do you want some extra qualities?
Do you want some flowers.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
I tried doing crape myrtles, but it didn't quite work
out because instead of getting the tree, I think I
got the shrub and they're only about maybe five or
six feet tall. I was looking for something that would
grow probably between fifteen to twenty feet that would create
a canopy.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
If you like crep myrtles, there are a lot of
crep murtles that would do that. Now, when you say
it's a shrub, crape myrtles can be trained. Now, there
are certainly crape myrtles that grow at different height rent
mature heights like pokemoke only grows what three four feet right,
four feet or so right, and you have natches thirty
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thirty five feet thirty thirty five feet right and things
in between. Okay, So that's one of the biggest mistakes
people make with crape myrtles. They go by color only,
and then it's too big for the spot and to
end up chopping, chopping, chopping, chopping. So determining what you
think you want as far as mature size for crait myrtle,
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If you want a crapmurdley grows fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Feet tall, that's easy.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know, Sue Tonto a coma.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A coma gets about twenty feet.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, a coma's up beautiful. It's we would call that
a weeping form.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It comes umbrell, umbrella shape, canopy, white blooms, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, strong plant.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I've seen the kinds that are planting on the side
of the Interstate at some of the exit ramps. I'm
always jealous of the Highway Department because every time I
drive by there, I said, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Those are mainly Natchez, which is a tall white. Yeah,
there's some twilightslights, some of the ones along Interstate ten
going toward the ten twelve split.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And those are varieties that are available now. As far
as shape. When you said you have a shrub, one
that might be just some pruning might be able to
help you. And you want to start pruning at a
young age like me. I don't like a crape murdle
that's got fifteen trunks coming out of the ground. I
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like three four. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I think that's my issue because I think I have
like fifteen or twenty of the trunks coming out.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I even have some.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
New growth coming out of the bottom and I'll be
honest with you, I don't know anything about crpe myrtles
and how to trim them back or care for them.
So I'm just going to have to go online and
see if I can get some technical information.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Or you can stop I wanted Clegg's Nurseries and ask
for some help and somebody, uh, you know, like me.
If it's really confusing for you, we'll walk out to
the creat myrtle bed and we'll say, here, you had
prune here, here, here, it's I joke around a lot
for crepe myrtle. I go all the way back to
the Mister Miyagi and Karate Kid movie.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And he gives Daniel the little fonds. I goes, what
do I do?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
He goes close the eyes picture tree, and he goes, now,
open eyes, cut off everything, not look like tree. Yes,
it's kind of but Jim, really that's kind of how
you do it.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You are going to train that tree in the form
that you want to see.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And a lot of times now the nursery growers put
multiple liners or multiple cuttings in one container, so that's
you get all this cluster growth at the base.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Of your crate.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Martles and like Scott saying, and like you just said, Jim,
you can have fifteen little twigs coming out there or
stems of the soil line when you need three, four
or five there, so and it's hard for people to
take out two thirds of.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That, right, And once the tree gets a little age,
if it's like that, it's hard to clean that up.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And then they really cut them and then they'll go
sucker back. That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So starting with the form that you want when they're
young is so much easier. Let's just put it that way.
So if your tree has a little age on it
and it's got all kinds of suckers coming out to
the bottom, it might be very difficult to move that
into something.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
More which I am envisioning that you would like. But
it's very easy to do more.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Yeah, that sounds more like it, because, like I said,
I don't know that much about trees other than I
know they come out of the ground and that's that's it.
My game plan is basically to create a sitting area
out behind my house. I have a retention pond behind
my house, and during the springtime, of course, it's real
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nice to go back there and relax into shade. But
we can't go back there until after five o'clock because
the sun goes behind the trees on the other side
of my neighbor's lot, and we don't get shaved back
there until well after five o'clock during the springtime, but
during the summertime now it's gonna be seven thirty eight
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o'clock before we can even think about going out there.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And a big advantage for the creditmurals is that they
grow fast, right, so you'd get your shade faster.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Okay, I'll be turning seventy next week, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Plenty time, plenty time, plenty of time, all right, Jim, Well,
I hope that gives a little information. Stopped by the
stores to see if we can give you a hand
if you need it. My name is Scott Rickay here
with doctor Allan Owens this morning, and we would be
more than happy to try to answer questions if you
give us a call in and otherwise we will just
(21:05):
talk about stuff. So one of the things we were
talking about during the break, Allan and I were talking
about Budley is and Alan works for both clegs and
who is a very big whost seller in our region.
We buy a lot of mature from them, they grow
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some beautiful quality mature. And we were talking about buddley
is and I was telling Alan how I could remember
the first time I ever saw a giant patch of
budley in one spot was out at Bracy's and the
butterflies were just everywhere. So now budley is also called
butterfly bush, not to be confused with butterfly weed.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Butterfly weed is what the monarchs feed on. Butterfly bush
is not a host plant, but it's a nectar producing plant,
high nectar plant, yeah right, And it comes in multiple colors.
We've got I don't know how many different colors we
have to store. We have a bunch of beautiful ones.
Something that grow tall, like black Night might grow eight
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feet tall.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Right, all white and pink one, you know, four six
feet tall. And the pugsters stay more in the two yeah,
two and a half foot range, which I used to.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Have pugsture blue in the front of my house pre flood.
I don't know why I never replanted. That kind of
changed the idea. But they were absolutely gorgeous, short, full,
loaded with color all the time, and a big attractor
for butterflies, which I do a lot of, you know,
you know, things to help bring in some nature into
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the yards.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You know, whenever I need some bee or some butterfly pictures,
I go to the budliest.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah so, but beautiful, beautiful plants. He's a plant for
the gentleman. They called earlier with the somebody sent in
a suggestion to my phone. Wildfire gum, which is a
native gun. It's not a sweet gum. It's a swamp
(23:06):
low gum, right, so, which has a lot of intense color.
And you were saying that you had planted one when
you were out at the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Ham plant of one to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Matures at twenty twenty five feet beautiful, foul, foolish color,
nice single trunk, yeah, very durable tree.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah. Yeah, so that that'd be another option.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And those we don't keep a lot of those at
the store at any one time, right, but they're probably
available to us to bring in. That's that's another thing.
We have tremendous amounts of stock. I mean literally, there's
nobody has more retail stock sitting on the property in
the whole state of Louisiana than Clegg's, right, But we
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still can't stock everything, but that doesn't stop us from saying, oh,
we know where to get that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
We'll get it in for you.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
So you know, if you're looking for something, people all
the time they come in, Oh, I've been looking for
this and you have it right here, and always joke
around like, well you're looking at the wrong place first,
So you know, just because you don't see it, please
stop and ask. We can get all kinds of stuff
that people aren't aren't aware that we can get. So
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with that, we're going to go to Carolyn, who has
called in with a very good question. And Carolyn, good morning,
thanks for calling the Wjbolawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What's up to? What can we do for you?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
How much molt can you put around at the bottom
of a tree.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, you can put a lot of mulch around out
from the trunk, Carolyn, but you should not pile it
up on the trunk itself. So when the mulch gets
right to the tree, it should taper right back down
to the soil surface.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay, thank you, you're welcoming now.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You wanted about three to four inches deep and go out,
not up right.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And we joke around.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You know, I always tell people kind I wish I
could find the first person that did that in Baton
Rouge and tap him on the back of the hell.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yes, And they don't do that, so and the landscape
companies do it.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I mean, eighty ninety percent of the trees are not
mulsh properly, right, And it's not just Louisiana, it's all
across the South. It's probably all across the country. I'm
mainly a Southern boys kind of guy, but you see
it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, And mulch is important, yes, I mean you mentioned
you can use the same amount of mulchh just go
out right, and actually your tree is going to do
better probably the further out you go with the mulch.
You mentioned while we were talking about the criminal for
that earlier gentlemen about the weeds and such and on
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the way, I what popped in my head when you
were talking about that is how much competition weeds can
be for a newly planted tree if left unchecked by
the tree itself, right, right, Because they're fighting for the
same things your tree needs to get established, the moisture,
the nutrients and everything. So that makes a big, big
difference on how well the tree can be become established
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or how fast, right and thoroughly so, so yeah, we
joking on.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We call them multip volcanoes. They're definitely bad.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know, just like on your body, the skin on
your thumb isn't like the skin on your eyelid. One's
much more durable to certain things than the other. Right,
And the tissue above ground on a tree is not
supposed to stay wet all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You get heat build up, you get moist moisture.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah, it can cause splits in the in the bark
and then that's an entry point for fungus and bugs.
And yeah, it's definitely a bad thing to do. So
baton rouge, quit doing that, Okay, starting to billboard, that's it. Yeah,
So you know, an example for your neighborhood. And you know,
if you've got a good mult around it, no more
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string trimmer up next to us because you're control them.
And then as it decomposes, the organic matter is going
into the soil. I tell people all the time. You know,
we're talking about just putting the native soil back into
the hole. Mother nature builds good soil from the surface down.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, If you compost on top maulch on top. That's right.
If it works its way down, that's right.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
The bugs, the worms, they they come up, they know
it's there. They're fitting on it. They're making the worms
are making a little tunnels to let you know, the
droppings come down and lets the air in better. Let's
the moisture penetrate better. So make good soil. Don't don't
fill the bottom of the the planting hole with quote
good soil. You need to build it from the top down.
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Let mother nature help you build that. And like you said,
the farther out you go, the better you trees gonna do.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It is so, what were you even talking about.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You were going to say you were going to give
us a recommendation for a groundcover in shade.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Jeez, you told me, don't forget.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And now what plant was? I do remember that plant
because I was very interested.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's a plum you.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Oh, the plumb used I's where you were going to go, Yeah,
plumb you or weeping you, yes, which is not a
Japanese you, but it has a very similar texture to me.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's like a big giant eyelash. It's really pretty. It's
a dark green color. It's a it's a very easy plant,
very wide, not very tall, evergreen. That's right.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It's a beautiful tolerant to the cold, tolerant to the heat.
Grows best in a semi shaded I think, I think
it could take more light than I would normally put
it in. But sometimes plants like that, if you get
them in a lot of sun, you start to lose
the intensity of the green on the foliage. And sometimes
that that is very much a part of what I
focus on on a plant. You know, different texture, different
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color greens. You can have a bunch of different plants
that are just green and still have a variety of
colors because there's a lot of different shades of green. Exactly,
I'm sitting there talking to you, like you know, I'm
you're the customer. I'm glad the microphones between the two
of us.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
And you know, groundcovers under a tree, you know, fertilized
once a year in the spring with a slow released
fertilizer and that benefits your groundcover and also benefits your tree.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, it's beautiful, beautiful little plant. Just it's just gorgeous.
It's kind of a soft, weepy look, and I just
I love that plant.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But we don't. I don't think Baton Rouge uses it
near enough. Bracey's. We sell a lot of those in Texas,
do you. Yeah? I remember.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Actually there's a video on you can get it on
YouTube or the l s A Center, right a Heather,
I think she did deal with And the other day
I was out at Burden Research Center, right and they
have that little area where they have the near the
conference center, and I saw the patch where she had
shot the video.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So he had brought that back to mind.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yes, but there's just a gorgeous plant easier to grow,
uh actually achieves a pretty decent size three foot diameter, Yes, easily. Yeah,
And it's just it's just gorgeous. So but h plumb
you are spreading you. There's more than one you that's
related to it, but some of the other ones grow.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Upright, right.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So I had a landscape re call earlier this week
and she wanted to know about which you to use.
And I thought she was talking about the typical Japanese
you like Pringles or Macki or one of those, and
then and then I thought she was talking about the
plum you utopia, which is a Southern living plant. And
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then I finally figured out she was talking about the
plant that you're just described. So you know the common name. Yeah,
common names can can be can be.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Uh, But when you have limited information, I do the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah. You think it's simple.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
You mentioned one thing. You think, oh, there's that one thing,
but you don't realize there's twenty of them that kind of.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Fit the same description.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
So you know, so somebody that's not certain, we ask questions,
a lot of questions. So even like we're talking about
weeds earlier, you know, he take a picture, bring a
sample in something like that. Which, by the way, we
have somebody calling in about their law, and so let's
go to Peter. Peter, thank you for calling. What can
we do for you this morning?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Good morning, guys, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I've had a mixture.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Of some bermuda in my bermuda grass in my Saint
Augustine grass and some weeds, and over the last couple
of years I've started fertilizing my Saint Augustine and the
bermuda is slowly starting to get beaten back by the
Saint Augustine. I put down twenty nine zero five lawn
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fertilizer on the on the lawn in mid April, and
I was wondering, is that too much?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Can I?
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Can I fertilize again now in July with the same
type of fertilizer.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You should not put back.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
On the nitrogen.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, you can still you can still hit it again.
So you know when you give me the analysis the
twenty nine zero five, to make sure that the amount
that you're putting out is proper for the amount of
square footage you have. Okay, so make sure it sounds
like we might hopefully you can hear it sound like
we might have lost his input. But also okay, so
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and a couple other things, and you've probably already been
told this. If you mow your Saint Augustine higher, bermuda
doesn't like to be shaded by the Saint Augustine. And
then there's there's no chemical that we have that you
can spray on the Saint Augustine to just eradicate the bermuda. However,
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the use of atrazine on actively growing bermuda is something
that stunts the bermuda.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It won't just kill it, but it could stunt it and.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Give the Saint Augustine an advantage. And plus check your
soil pH and make sure that the soil pH is
in the range which is best for the Saint Augustine,
so it can be a better competitor.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
I'll put down lime last year and again this year,
trying to get it back up to where the pH
needs to be because it was locally low. The pH
was way too low when I did a soil test
a year.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
And a half ago.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yeah, So how do I measure my Saint Augustine brass
to get a good height to know how high I
should mow?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well, two and a half to three inches would be high.
And you could do that.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
And you could either measure there's a little device to
measure the blade height from the ground on a flat surface. Uh,
or you could stick a little ruler up underneath to
look at your blades.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Different lawnmowers.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You might might have it written on the side of
the mower where you do your wheel adjustment. Or you
can go out there with a you know, with a ruler,
stick it down to the soul surface.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'll give you a close enough idea.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Yeah, as the ruur will stop right yep, to the
soul surface. That's right right, all right, Peter, Kathy, thanks
for holding through. How are you today? And thanks for
calling the w jb O Lawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 10 (34:38):
Oh, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
I have.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
Bubblegum petunias, and they they got kind of dying back some,
and so I still have the the roots there. You
think they'll come produce some?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Did the they just get what I call lanky where
they were they're kind of bald in the middle and
everything's way far out on the stem. Or did they
actually turn brownish?
Speaker 10 (35:11):
Well, they had some some petunities out there, but it
had like some of it kind of browned. It kind
of looked like I don't know, I had it was.
It was like, I don't know what you call it.
But they kind of died back, a lot of them,
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regardless to the roots. And I still have the roots.
Will they grow back?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
You think you said you said you cut them back already? Yeah,
how close to where they contact the ground? Did you
cut them back to? I would have cut them back.
I would have cut them back, but I wouldn't have
gotten right up on top of where they connect to
the ground.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Well, I had to do that because it had like
a lot of big good things that looked like a oh,
they were all brown and it looks like a net
a net stuff. So I had to determine.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
All right, So how long How long ago did you
do that, Kathy?
Speaker 10 (36:21):
It was probably where we are Saturday, probably on Monday.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Okay, So just give her a little time, wouldn't you think, Alan.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I would just give them some time.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
You know, you may have had some disease moving there
on them, and it has been a little bit rainy
this spring, and petunias don't like that, and so just
wait and see, and bubble gums can over summer. But
once they get to that situation, sometimes they come back
and sometimes they don't.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
So but just just give it a little time and see. Okay,
don't try do not try to overfertilize, said, don't do anything.
Just just let them be and see if some leaves
come back out on them.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Okay, okay, thank you, all right, Jasy.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Have a great one. All right. Now let's go to Jerry.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Jerry, thank you for holding through what you got going today.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
Yes, sir, I have mass planet some Carolina jasmine in
the area around my pool, trying to get it to
take over, and I'm getting a lot of weeds in it.
Is there herbericide? I could overspray and not do too
much damage to my jasmine.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
How long has the jasmine been planted? Going on two years? Okay,
and we brought two.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
Flats from you two years ago. The jasmine is doing
very well, but it's a big area.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Is it Asian jasmine? Is the groundcover one dark ing
Asian jazz? Okay, Asian jazz, yes.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
If it's grassy yes, If it's nutgrass, yes. If it's
broad weeds, probably not. Can you think of a broad
leaf No, I can't yea sir jerry. In many cases,
the herbicides some of the major divisions. If you're looking
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at a pie chart, you have broad leaf weeds or
herbicides that take care of broadleaf weeds, herbicides that take
care of grasses, herbicides that take care of sedges, which
is a nut grass, and then some other little slivers
on the pie.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Those other little slivers.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
If if that was your dessert, you wouldn't barely even
get a tip on the fork okay to eat.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
So identifying what you have.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Would be an integral part of determining whether you could
find something to spray on the top. If it was
grassy weeds, you could use sethoxidin which grass beaeder post
vantage all that's the same chemical.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Is over the top. I'm going to work on that.
Over the top is us aid flop. Yeah yeah, so
a grass beater is one. There's grass are gone a
flu is the flop. I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that, but
that could be used. So that's two different grass killers
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that you could use.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Okay, if it's.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Nut grass or kai linga, which is another sedge, their sulfetrozome.
There's a chemicals that you can come in and there's
more than one thing, so it'd be best take some
of what your problem is and bring it in and
show us.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
Okay, okay, I mean it is a jumble eye of
different weeds. You might if some some grasses, some broad leaves,
and if I could just get one to kind of
damage some of it, I'd probably be mostly I guess
the grass is the broad leaves are not near as intense, and.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
You might once you try to get it cleaned up,
you might start using some pre emergent herbicide in there,
like post does fairly well on grasses, tref land works
fairly well on grasses, so you might be able to
do that. And if you can maybe even filter some
moults down through the vines of the Asian jasmine might
help to some degree.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
That might be hard to do though.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
We and the and then you know, if your Asian
jazzm is not totally grown together yet and you have
some gaps in there where it's all weeds and no
Asian jazz, maybe even go in there and spots price.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
So yeah, you can spotspray some glafisade, which is what
the old ground up it we sell a even though
the round Up brand has changed their chemical makeup, there's
still there's still generics of the glafa say, we sell
a bunch of it.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So okay, all right, Jerry, I hope you have a
great day. Alan, Well, it was good to have some
callers today, It was it was It was nice just
to talk about some other things earlier though, And I
had a list of we never got to.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, and the only thing I had on my mind
was Budley Is, which we kind of talk about, and
the plumb You.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yes, there's so many other us.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
You mentioned Pringles and Maki and just there's so many things.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
There's so many things.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So but if you have questions like bringing that Creditmer'll
like the earlier gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Come into the store. We can help you. We've got
thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I hope everybody has a gorgeous day today. Alan, I
hope you have a productive day and get to see lots.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Of that flowers. See us at Clegg's and Arch. We
will buy there all locations. Yeah, don't forget.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
iHeartRadio, WJBO, Lawn, The Garden Show, bat Rouge.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Enjoy yourself today.
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the wgb O Lone
and Garden Show, brought to you by Clegg's Nursery. If
you have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden
concerns are questions about landscaping called four ninety nine w GBO.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine six. Good morning, baton rouge.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's a beautiful day here in the Capitol City here
at the WWO Lawn and Garden Show. My name is
Scott Ricco with Clegg's Nursery here this morning with doctor
Allan Owings wearing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
His cleg shirt. Thank you very much for that Alan.
Good morning, Scott one. But you have a whole closet
full of shirts. I do, I do.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm trying to be presentable in stylish you know, No,
I mean, I mean not just Clegg's. You you wear some.
I got my LSU stuff and my Bracy stick races. Yeah,
I've got some of these new LSU tropical looking shirts
that are all purple and gold and flowery.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That sounds cool.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Then I got me a new LSU shirt that's purple
and gold, but it's a USA theme. Uh huh, I'm
getting attention.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh jeez, it's going to be a beautiful day. And
it's always enjoyable to be here with you. I think
that a lot of times when you and I are here,
I get to talk about things that I don't on
other times.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Sometimes I feel sometimes I feel that same way too.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And you just just mentioned just very quickly right before
we went on air that you had just gone to
some of the plant trials recently, and right, so that's
a big thing for you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You go, do you go to two sets a year,
spring and fall? What do you do?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Or so? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So yesterday and Hammond at the LSU Accenter research station
there we have the Landscape Horticulture Field Day, and that's
the day that they have every summer now for the
industry to come and look at some of the new
and older bedding plants.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I was there last year.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It was really nice and I enjoyed that you had
some irrigation work that they described and.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Doctor Damon Abdy's just putting in some rain guard and research.
And one of the LSU horticultur agents talked about a
blueberry trial they have over there about twenty five varieties.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They even had.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Trees planted in different with different methodology to see what
actually his best. Quite often I still find when people
come in and having problems with their plants and things
that sometimes improper planting procedure. And unfortunately, when I started,
(02:48):
I was I was somebody to dish that out all
over the place. You know, you get twice as wide,
twice as deep, throw the clay away, put in some
good potting soil. And through through research and uh, you know,
we have found it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's not that's not the that's right, that's a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You use the same soil that was in the planting hole,
that goes back into the planting hole.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But it's but it's clay.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, But sooner or later the plants got to grow
and what that what God put there?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I tell people it's tough love. You have to tell
them that what they got to begin with. And then
also ill, you know, depending on where we are nurse,
I'll point out at all the big trees and things
around the nurture. You see all those guess what they're
planted in. You're in clay. You know, nobody truy did anything.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
It's all it's all about putting the right plant in
the right place. And yes, but a lot of the
problems that you do see a few years after planting
are directly related to how the plant was planted and
whether you maintain mulch at the base or whether you
let weeds get up around the base of your trees.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And then you're striking it with the weed either. But
I'm really careful and exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I can remember one time we were at something in
New Orleans. It was a nursery event informational study, and
somebody was there and was talking about some trees on
Esplanade Street in the New Orleans and they were having
such trouble and never taking pictures of them, and the
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bottom were just cut up unbelievably with weed eater. And
I said something, oh, weed eater, canker, and he stopped me.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
He looked at me and goes, oh, I like that.
Can I use that? Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But yeah, it just tears up, you know, the tissue,
the vascular tissue, the veins of the plant are right
underneath the bark. And you get something like a crape
myrtle that's got such a thin bark it can scrape
with your fingernail and you're hitting it with the weed earner,
and I don't care if you think you're careful or not,
that thing is spending how fast And even if you
accidentally touch it just for a moment, you already struck
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at god knows how many times, and you are messing
up the veins of that plant. And that's why you
get sometimes as big old knobs and some extra suckers
that don't stop because you keep striking it over and
over and over again, and it's just horrible.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, but I get at least one or two questions
a week about girdling of a tree from a weed Eaterye,
and somebody's uh had a Japanese maple that's like fifteen
years old a couple of weeks ago, and it got
girdled by the person that.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Cuts this lawn for somebody. Yeah, it's and once.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's even halfway girdle, it's going to go downhill and
it's not going to recover.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's right, it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And there's something yeah, Yeah, you got a twenty year
old oak tree and it's got that big old thick
bark on it.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, go down. Take a little bit more abuse, and
I don't purposely do it. Yeah, you know you're gonna
be a little bit uh, less careful.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's safer to free glacifate around the base of the planet.
It is advice, the fate being the old run up right, right.
You know that's something's very difficult for me now because
you know I've been using roundup as a generic term
for so many years.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Now the roundup brand doesn't have the same set of chemicals.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Right, right, And all the home gardeners don't understand this
change that has been made.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
There are limitations on that. You're only supposed to I
forget seventeen day interval or something right or longer. Right,
And there's a limitation how many times how much you
spray in an area over a year.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, that are on the label that nobody's going to
look at exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
And that's another common question too, Well, how much ounces
of this insecticide do you put per gallon when you're
spraying this particular insecticide for this particular insect. Well, it's
all on the label. Well, they want to call us,
you know, they don't don't want to read the light,
right is their responsibility? So should we ask people how
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to call in this morning? If or did you say.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That I didn't even say it. Yeah, we just.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Jumped right into it. But we're here this morning and
you can actually pick up the phone and call us
at two six or four nine nine w JBO. I
also to remind people if if you're you know, if
we go through some stuff and you don't have a
pencil and paper to write it down right now, you
can go back to the iHeartRadio app is free. We
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have the w JBO Lawn and Garden Show, and I
forget how long we've been doing it, but we've been
doing it for a fairly long time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Now you can go back to all of.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Them and uh and and pick up on little tiny
tidbits that that you thought you heard. Or sometimes I
do that on other things. It's like there was something
on such and such, and I'll go back and off once.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
In a while, I check to see some what some
of us are talking about. When I'm not here, I
do too.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I listened to it, so uh yeah, because you know,
we get phone calls at the store and it's nice
to know what was discussed.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
And every Friday on the Clegs Nursery Facebook page, I'm
putting a post that takes you to all the past
episodes and tells you who's going to be on the
show the next day and the phone number and how
you can listen on the radio or the iHeart app,
and or.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They could always just come into the stores.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know. That's when we do you have if you
don't know already, we have four locations in and outside
of the bat Rouge area.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
We have.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
The Donal More location, which is the oldest of the
existing locations.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Wasn't the first location.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
There used to be a vacant lot down on Florida
Boulevard first location. Okay, When I first started the store,
a lot of the older customers always referred to the
Donal Store as the Florida Street Store because there's little
strip mall in front of it. What I'm there and
you could see, Yeah, so that was very common. They'd
say the Florida Street Store.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Then we have Seagan Lane, and then the Greenwell Springs location,
and then the Denham Springs locations. So and then we
also have the Color Division Greenhouses, which are adjacent to
the Grendel Springs location, which I'll just throw it out
right now. Usually in November, usually the weekend after Thanksgiving,
we have an open house there with the right points,
(09:16):
about gorgeous, about ten thousand points sed, it's just just
a full color, yeah, just the one or two. So,
but yeah, y'all can if y'all have any questions today,
pick up the phone. Calls at four nine six. It's
four nine W GBO, and we'll be glad to entertain
your question.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And I don't know if you and Tom know this, Scott,
but I regularly have folks asked me, well, when is
Kleg's going to open a location in ham And then
when are y'all going to come to Covington or winter?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Now I hadn't had those two, but there's been numerous
ones before.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
We have a hard time doing what we do with.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Four Yeah, you know, staffing is a is a little
difficult sometimes. Now we do a fairly good job. Would
like to always, would like to do better, Yes, but yeah,
what do you call it when you start selling the
rights and you let the the building or the like restaurants? Franchise? Franchise,
(10:15):
that's the words franchise. I thought I just saw Jeremy
Porcine just perk up. I think he might have a
I don't know. Oh again, call us if you have
any questions otherwise we'll just kind of talk about.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It and then and then going back to the herbicize
and insecticides, and some of the insecticides have changed active
ingredients also in the last five to six years.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, I am not update on that as good
as I need.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh, it's it's it's like seven. Yes, used to be carburel.
Well it's not anymore. Then then the liquid was something else,
but the powder was still carbaryl right.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well now now they're all something else.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yes, Yes, the product eight used to all be promethrons,
you know, synthetic pyreth right, Well, now some are and
some aren't.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, so that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So you have to you have to look. Things change,
and it's the way the laws are written. They can
keep the name and they can change the the composition
easier than developing a new name. And it's a lot
less expensive for him, I'm sure so.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
And some of these changes on the insecticide or to
be more be friendly and pollinator friendly. Absolutely, and so
you know, not every insecticide is that's detrimental to our
pollinators as some people think they are.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So no, and even.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
How you apply and when you apply, yes, it has
a lot to do if you have an apple tree
and you're you're trying to do your late winter spring
in your spring it when it's in full bloom, Well,
that's horrible for the pollinators, right, So you know, there's
we spray before the flowers are really when the flowers
are swelling, which sometimes they call it bud swell or
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pink stage. We spray it then before the bees are
really in it. Then we wait till the majority of
the flowers have fallen off. So there are things that
we do also just in timing and picking the right
insect aside, and you know, you should always strive to
know what you're trying to control. People, especially with herbicide. People, Oh,
(12:31):
I need something to spray on my lawn. Well, what's
the problem. I've got stuff in it? What's you know what?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Stuff?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know, and then they then you get a picture
that's taken about ten feet away.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's a green patch on it.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So if you ever are.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Needing help in the herbicide range, especially for you lawn
or bring if you can bring a sample in, it
makes so much.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
A difference.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And knowing what you're trying to control gives you the
opportunity to put the best thing out for that control
instead of just guessing and wasting your time and wasting
your money and all that other stuff. But you mentioned
a moment ago, it's on the label how much to mix.
(13:26):
You know a lot of people mix it right, but
then they don't put it out right. I've mixed x amount.
I put three tablespoons in a gallon of water and
I sprayed it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
How much her you spray it over? Well, I don't know.
I sprayed it. Try it ran out.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Well, maybe that was only supposed to treat five hundred
square feet and you sprayed it over fifteen hundred square feet.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, there's not enough chemical to do. Maybe it was
supposed to treat fifteen.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Hundred square feet and you sprayed it over five hundred
square feet, and now you're killing the grass that you
were trying to help.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Exactly. So we've got it. We got and then time
you're in temperature.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Absolutely there's a lot of perversize. If it's above ninety degrees,
don't spray on you long. You'll have a lot of
collateral damage. We do have our first car, and let's
go to Jim. Jim, good morning, Thanks for calling the
WJBO lawn and guard show.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What can I help you with?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Good morning, gentlemen. My biggest concern is that I would
like to plant a shade tree in the backyard of
my house, or future plans of putting a little small pergola.
And the backside of my house faces south, and I
get sun all day long from probably around ten am
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to after five pm, and it's hot during the summertime,
and my main objective is to try to put a
shade tree back there to where my wife and I
can go back there and sit up under the shade
tree and just enjoy the afternoon without bacon in the
ninety five degree heat.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yep, that's the only time I would say that bacon
isn't good.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
That did give me some bacon, but not that bacon.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So Jim, So you're trying to have a tree, I
guess you want.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean you could.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
One of the things I would tell you, or would ask,
what do you want that tree to mature at? Do
you want a tree that's going to grow eighty feet tall?
Is it if it's a crape myrtle that grows twenty
five feet tall?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is that big enough? Do you want some extra qualities?
Do you want some flowers.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
I tried doing crape myrtles, but it didn't quite work
out because instead of getting the tree, I think I
got the shrub and they're only about maybe five or
six feet tall. I was looking for something that would
grow probably between fifteen to twenty feet that would create
a canopy.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
If you like crep myrtles, there are a lot of
crep murtles that would do that. Now, when you say
it's a shrub, crape myrtles can be trained. Now, there
are certainly crape myrtles that grow at different height rent
mature heights like pokemoke only grows what three four feet right,
four feet or so right, and you have natches thirty
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thirty five feet thirty thirty five feet right and things
in between. Okay, So that's one of the biggest mistakes
people make with crape myrtles. They go by color only,
and then it's too big for the spot and to
end up chopping, chopping, chopping, chopping. So determining what you
think you want as far as mature size for crait myrtle,
(16:30):
If you want a crapmurdley grows fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Feet tall, that's easy.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know, Sue Tonto a coma.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A coma gets about twenty feet.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, a coma's up beautiful. It's we would call that
a weeping form.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It comes umbrell, umbrella shape, canopy, white blooms, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, strong plant.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I've seen the kinds that are planting on the side
of the Interstate at some of the exit ramps. I'm
always jealous of the Highway Department because every time I
drive by there, I said, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Those are mainly Natchez, which is a tall white. Yeah,
there's some twilightslights, some of the ones along Interstate ten
going toward the ten twelve split.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And those are varieties that are available now. As far
as shape. When you said you have a shrub, one
that might be just some pruning might be able to
help you. And you want to start pruning at a
young age like me. I don't like a crape murdle
that's got fifteen trunks coming out of the ground. I
(17:35):
like three four. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I think that's my issue because I think I have
like fifteen or twenty of the trunks coming out.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I even have some.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
New growth coming out of the bottom and I'll be
honest with you, I don't know anything about crpe myrtles
and how to trim them back or care for them.
So I'm just going to have to go online and
see if I can get some technical information.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Or you can stop I wanted Clegg's Nurseries and ask
for some help and somebody, uh, you know, like me.
If it's really confusing for you, we'll walk out to
the creat myrtle bed and we'll say, here, you had
prune here, here, here, it's I joke around a lot
for crepe myrtle. I go all the way back to
the Mister Miyagi and Karate Kid movie.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And he gives Daniel the little fonds. I goes, what
do I do?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
He goes close the eyes picture tree, and he goes, now,
open eyes, cut off everything, not look like tree. Yes,
it's kind of but Jim, really that's kind of how
you do it.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You are going to train that tree in the form
that you want to see.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And a lot of times now the nursery growers put
multiple liners or multiple cuttings in one container, so that's
you get all this cluster growth at the base.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Of your crate.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Martles and like Scott saying, and like you just said, Jim,
you can have fifteen little twigs coming out there or
stems of the soil line when you need three, four
or five there, so and it's hard for people to
take out two thirds of.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That, right, And once the tree gets a little age,
if it's like that, it's hard to clean that up.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And then they really cut them and then they'll go
sucker back. That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So starting with the form that you want when they're
young is so much easier. Let's just put it that way.
So if your tree has a little age on it
and it's got all kinds of suckers coming out to
the bottom, it might be very difficult to move that
into something.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
More which I am envisioning that you would like. But
it's very easy to do more.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Yeah, that sounds more like it, because, like I said,
I don't know that much about trees other than I
know they come out of the ground and that's that's it.
My game plan is basically to create a sitting area
out behind my house. I have a retention pond behind
my house, and during the springtime, of course, it's real
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nice to go back there and relax into shade. But
we can't go back there until after five o'clock because
the sun goes behind the trees on the other side
of my neighbor's lot, and we don't get shaved back
there until well after five o'clock during the springtime, but
during the summertime now it's gonna be seven thirty eight
(20:29):
o'clock before we can even think about going out there.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And a big advantage for the creditmurals is that they
grow fast, right, so you'd get your shade faster.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Okay, I'll be turning seventy next week, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Plenty time, plenty time, plenty of time, all right, Jim, Well,
I hope that gives a little information. Stopped by the
stores to see if we can give you a hand
if you need it. My name is Scott Rickay here
with doctor Allan Owens this morning, and we would be
more than happy to try to answer questions if you
give us a call in and otherwise we will just
(21:05):
talk about stuff. So one of the things we were
talking about during the break, Allan and I were talking
about Budley is and Alan works for both clegs and
who is a very big whost seller in our region.
We buy a lot of mature from them, they grow
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some beautiful quality mature. And we were talking about buddley
is and I was telling Alan how I could remember
the first time I ever saw a giant patch of
budley in one spot was out at Bracy's and the
butterflies were just everywhere. So now budley is also called
butterfly bush, not to be confused with butterfly weed.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Butterfly weed is what the monarchs feed on. Butterfly bush
is not a host plant, but it's a nectar producing plant,
high nectar plant, yeah right, And it comes in multiple colors.
We've got I don't know how many different colors we
have to store. We have a bunch of beautiful ones.
Something that grow tall, like black Night might grow eight
(22:04):
feet tall.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Right, all white and pink one, you know, four six
feet tall. And the pugsters stay more in the two yeah,
two and a half foot range, which I used to.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Have pugsture blue in the front of my house pre flood.
I don't know why I never replanted. That kind of
changed the idea. But they were absolutely gorgeous, short, full,
loaded with color all the time, and a big attractor
for butterflies, which I do a lot of, you know,
you know, things to help bring in some nature into
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the yards.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You know, whenever I need some bee or some butterfly pictures,
I go to the budliest.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah so, but beautiful, beautiful plants. He's a plant for
the gentleman. They called earlier with the somebody sent in
a suggestion to my phone. Wildfire gum, which is a
native gun. It's not a sweet gum. It's a swamp
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low gum, right, so, which has a lot of intense color.
And you were saying that you had planted one when
you were out at the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Ham plant of one to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Matures at twenty twenty five feet beautiful, foul, foolish color,
nice single trunk, yeah, very durable tree.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah. Yeah, so that that'd be another option.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And those we don't keep a lot of those at
the store at any one time, right, but they're probably
available to us to bring in. That's that's another thing.
We have tremendous amounts of stock. I mean literally, there's
nobody has more retail stock sitting on the property in
the whole state of Louisiana than Clegg's, right, But we
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still can't stock everything, but that doesn't stop us from saying, oh,
we know where to get that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
We'll get it in for you.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
So you know, if you're looking for something, people all
the time they come in, Oh, I've been looking for
this and you have it right here, and always joke
around like, well you're looking at the wrong place first,
So you know, just because you don't see it, please
stop and ask. We can get all kinds of stuff
that people aren't aren't aware that we can get. So
(24:20):
with that, we're going to go to Carolyn, who has
called in with a very good question. And Carolyn, good morning,
thanks for calling the Wjbolawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What's up to? What can we do for you?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
How much molt can you put around at the bottom
of a tree.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, you can put a lot of mulch around out
from the trunk, Carolyn, but you should not pile it
up on the trunk itself. So when the mulch gets
right to the tree, it should taper right back down
to the soil surface.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay, thank you, you're welcoming now.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You wanted about three to four inches deep and go out,
not up right.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And we joke around.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You know, I always tell people kind I wish I
could find the first person that did that in Baton
Rouge and tap him on the back of the hell.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yes, And they don't do that, so and the landscape
companies do it.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I mean, eighty ninety percent of the trees are not
mulsh properly, right, And it's not just Louisiana, it's all
across the South. It's probably all across the country. I'm
mainly a Southern boys kind of guy, but you see
it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, And mulch is important, yes, I mean you mentioned
you can use the same amount of mulchh just go
out right, and actually your tree is going to do
better probably the further out you go with the mulch.
You mentioned while we were talking about the criminal for
that earlier gentlemen about the weeds and such and on
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the way, I what popped in my head when you
were talking about that is how much competition weeds can
be for a newly planted tree if left unchecked by
the tree itself, right, right, Because they're fighting for the
same things your tree needs to get established, the moisture,
the nutrients and everything. So that makes a big, big
difference on how well the tree can be become established
(26:18):
or how fast, right and thoroughly so, so yeah, we
joking on.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We call them multip volcanoes. They're definitely bad.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know, just like on your body, the skin on
your thumb isn't like the skin on your eyelid. One's
much more durable to certain things than the other. Right,
And the tissue above ground on a tree is not
supposed to stay wet all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You get heat build up, you get moist moisture.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah, it can cause splits in the in the bark
and then that's an entry point for fungus and bugs.
And yeah, it's definitely a bad thing to do. So
baton rouge, quit doing that, Okay, starting to billboard, that's it. Yeah,
So you know, an example for your neighborhood. And you know,
if you've got a good mult around it, no more
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string trimmer up next to us because you're control them.
And then as it decomposes, the organic matter is going
into the soil. I tell people all the time. You know,
we're talking about just putting the native soil back into
the hole. Mother nature builds good soil from the surface down.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, If you compost on top maulch on top. That's right.
If it works its way down, that's right.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
The bugs, the worms, they they come up, they know
it's there. They're fitting on it. They're making the worms
are making a little tunnels to let you know, the
droppings come down and lets the air in better. Let's
the moisture penetrate better. So make good soil. Don't don't
fill the bottom of the the planting hole with quote
good soil. You need to build it from the top down.
(27:50):
Let mother nature help you build that. And like you said,
the farther out you go, the better you trees gonna do.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It is so, what were you even talking about.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You were going to say you were going to give
us a recommendation for a groundcover in shade.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Jeez, you told me, don't forget.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And now what plant was? I do remember that plant
because I was very interested.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's a plum you.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Oh, the plumb used I's where you were going to go, Yeah,
plumb you or weeping you, yes, which is not a
Japanese you, but it has a very similar texture to me.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's like a big giant eyelash. It's really pretty. It's
a dark green color. It's a it's a very easy plant,
very wide, not very tall, evergreen. That's right.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It's a beautiful tolerant to the cold, tolerant to the heat.
Grows best in a semi shaded I think, I think
it could take more light than I would normally put
it in. But sometimes plants like that, if you get
them in a lot of sun, you start to lose
the intensity of the green on the foliage. And sometimes
that that is very much a part of what I
focus on on a plant. You know, different texture, different
(28:57):
color greens. You can have a bunch of different plants
that are just green and still have a variety of
colors because there's a lot of different shades of green. Exactly,
I'm sitting there talking to you, like you know, I'm
you're the customer. I'm glad the microphones between the two
of us.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
And you know, groundcovers under a tree, you know, fertilized
once a year in the spring with a slow released
fertilizer and that benefits your groundcover and also benefits your tree.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, it's beautiful, beautiful little plant. Just it's just gorgeous.
It's kind of a soft, weepy look, and I just
I love that plant.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But we don't. I don't think Baton Rouge uses it
near enough. Bracey's. We sell a lot of those in Texas,
do you. Yeah? I remember.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Actually there's a video on you can get it on
YouTube or the l s A Center, right a Heather,
I think she did deal with And the other day
I was out at Burden Research Center, right and they
have that little area where they have the near the
conference center, and I saw the patch where she had
shot the video.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So he had brought that back to mind.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yes, but there's just a gorgeous plant easier to grow,
uh actually achieves a pretty decent size three foot diameter, Yes, easily. Yeah,
And it's just it's just gorgeous. So but h plumb
you are spreading you. There's more than one you that's
related to it, but some of the other ones grow.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Upright, right.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So I had a landscape re call earlier this week
and she wanted to know about which you to use.
And I thought she was talking about the typical Japanese
you like Pringles or Macki or one of those, and
then and then I thought she was talking about the
plum you utopia, which is a Southern living plant. And
(30:46):
then I finally figured out she was talking about the
plant that you're just described. So you know the common name. Yeah,
common names can can be can be.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Uh, But when you have limited information, I do the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah. You think it's simple.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
You mentioned one thing. You think, oh, there's that one thing,
but you don't realize there's twenty of them that kind of.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Fit the same description.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
So you know, so somebody that's not certain, we ask questions,
a lot of questions. So even like we're talking about
weeds earlier, you know, he take a picture, bring a
sample in something like that. Which, by the way, we
have somebody calling in about their law, and so let's
go to Peter. Peter, thank you for calling. What can
we do for you this morning?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Good morning, guys, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I've had a mixture.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Of some bermuda in my bermuda grass in my Saint
Augustine grass and some weeds, and over the last couple
of years I've started fertilizing my Saint Augustine and the
bermuda is slowly starting to get beaten back by the
Saint Augustine. I put down twenty nine zero five lawn
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fertilizer on the on the lawn in mid April, and
I was wondering, is that too much?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Can I?
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Can I fertilize again now in July with the same
type of fertilizer.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You should not put back.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
On the nitrogen.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, you can still you can still hit it again.
So you know when you give me the analysis the
twenty nine zero five, to make sure that the amount
that you're putting out is proper for the amount of
square footage you have. Okay, so make sure it sounds
like we might hopefully you can hear it sound like
we might have lost his input. But also okay, so
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and a couple other things, and you've probably already been
told this. If you mow your Saint Augustine higher, bermuda
doesn't like to be shaded by the Saint Augustine. And
then there's there's no chemical that we have that you
can spray on the Saint Augustine to just eradicate the bermuda. However,
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the use of atrazine on actively growing bermuda is something
that stunts the bermuda.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It won't just kill it, but it could stunt it and.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Give the Saint Augustine an advantage. And plus check your
soil pH and make sure that the soil pH is
in the range which is best for the Saint Augustine,
so it can be a better competitor.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
I'll put down lime last year and again this year,
trying to get it back up to where the pH
needs to be because it was locally low. The pH
was way too low when I did a soil test
a year.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
And a half ago.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yeah, So how do I measure my Saint Augustine brass
to get a good height to know how high I
should mow?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well, two and a half to three inches would be high.
And you could do that.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
And you could either measure there's a little device to
measure the blade height from the ground on a flat surface. Uh,
or you could stick a little ruler up underneath to
look at your blades.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Different lawnmowers.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You might might have it written on the side of
the mower where you do your wheel adjustment. Or you
can go out there with a you know, with a ruler,
stick it down to the soul surface.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'll give you a close enough idea.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Yeah, as the ruur will stop right yep, to the
soul surface. That's right right, all right, Peter, Kathy, thanks
for holding through. How are you today? And thanks for
calling the w jb O Lawn the Garden Show.
Speaker 10 (34:38):
Oh, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
I have.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
Bubblegum petunias, and they they got kind of dying back some,
and so I still have the the roots there. You
think they'll come produce some?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Did the they just get what I call lanky where
they were they're kind of bald in the middle and
everything's way far out on the stem. Or did they
actually turn brownish?
Speaker 10 (35:11):
Well, they had some some petunities out there, but it
had like some of it kind of browned. It kind
of looked like I don't know, I had it was.
It was like, I don't know what you call it.
But they kind of died back, a lot of them,
(35:32):
regardless to the roots. And I still have the roots.
Will they grow back?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
You think you said you said you cut them back already? Yeah,
how close to where they contact the ground? Did you
cut them back to? I would have cut them back.
I would have cut them back, but I wouldn't have
gotten right up on top of where they connect to
the ground.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Well, I had to do that because it had like
a lot of big good things that looked like a oh,
they were all brown and it looks like a net
a net stuff. So I had to determine.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
All right, So how long How long ago did you
do that, Kathy?
Speaker 10 (36:21):
It was probably where we are Saturday, probably on Monday.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Okay, So just give her a little time, wouldn't you think, Alan.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I would just give them some time.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
You know, you may have had some disease moving there
on them, and it has been a little bit rainy
this spring, and petunias don't like that, and so just
wait and see, and bubble gums can over summer. But
once they get to that situation, sometimes they come back
and sometimes they don't.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
So but just just give it a little time and see. Okay,
don't try do not try to overfertilize, said, don't do anything.
Just just let them be and see if some leaves
come back out on them.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Okay, okay, thank you, all right, Jasy.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Have a great one. All right. Now let's go to Jerry.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Jerry, thank you for holding through what you got going today.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
Yes, sir, I have mass planet some Carolina jasmine in
the area around my pool, trying to get it to
take over, and I'm getting a lot of weeds in it.
Is there herbericide? I could overspray and not do too
much damage to my jasmine.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
How long has the jasmine been planted? Going on two years? Okay,
and we brought two.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
Flats from you two years ago. The jasmine is doing
very well, but it's a big area.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Is it Asian jasmine? Is the groundcover one dark ing
Asian jazz? Okay, Asian jazz, yes.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
If it's grassy yes, If it's nutgrass, yes. If it's
broad weeds, probably not. Can you think of a broad
leaf No, I can't yea sir jerry. In many cases,
the herbicides some of the major divisions. If you're looking
(38:11):
at a pie chart, you have broad leaf weeds or
herbicides that take care of broadleaf weeds, herbicides that take
care of grasses, herbicides that take care of sedges, which
is a nut grass, and then some other little slivers
on the pie.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Those other little slivers.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
If if that was your dessert, you wouldn't barely even
get a tip on the fork okay to eat.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
So identifying what you have.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Would be an integral part of determining whether you could
find something to spray on the top. If it was
grassy weeds, you could use sethoxidin which grass beaeder post
vantage all that's the same chemical.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Is over the top. I'm going to work on that.
Over the top is us aid flop. Yeah yeah, so
a grass beater is one. There's grass are gone a
flu is the flop. I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that, but
that could be used. So that's two different grass killers
(39:18):
that you could use.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Okay, if it's.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Nut grass or kai linga, which is another sedge, their sulfetrozome.
There's a chemicals that you can come in and there's
more than one thing, so it'd be best take some
of what your problem is and bring it in and
show us.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
Okay, okay, I mean it is a jumble eye of
different weeds. You might if some some grasses, some broad leaves,
and if I could just get one to kind of
damage some of it, I'd probably be mostly I guess
the grass is the broad leaves are not near as intense, and.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
You might once you try to get it cleaned up,
you might start using some pre emergent herbicide in there,
like post does fairly well on grasses, tref land works
fairly well on grasses, so you might be able to
do that. And if you can maybe even filter some
moults down through the vines of the Asian jasmine might
help to some degree.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
That might be hard to do though.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
We and the and then you know, if your Asian
jazzm is not totally grown together yet and you have
some gaps in there where it's all weeds and no
Asian jazz, maybe even go in there and spots price.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
So yeah, you can spotspray some glafisade, which is what
the old ground up it we sell a even though
the round Up brand has changed their chemical makeup, there's
still there's still generics of the glafa say, we sell
a bunch of it.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So okay, all right, Jerry, I hope you have a
great day. Alan, Well, it was good to have some
callers today, It was it was It was nice just
to talk about some other things earlier though, And I
had a list of we never got to.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, and the only thing I had on my mind
was Budley Is, which we kind of talk about, and
the plumb You.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yes, there's so many other us.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
You mentioned Pringles and Maki and just there's so many things.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
There's so many things.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So but if you have questions like bringing that Creditmer'll
like the earlier gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Come into the store. We can help you. We've got
thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I hope everybody has a gorgeous day today. Alan, I
hope you have a productive day and get to see lots.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Of that flowers. See us at Clegg's and Arch. We
will buy there all locations. Yeah, don't forget.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
iHeartRadio, WJBO, Lawn, The Garden Show, bat Rouge.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Enjoy yourself today.
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