February 15, 2025 • 44 mins
It's warm! It's cold! It's warm again! Then it's cold again! This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, Scott and Zane from Clegg's Nursery talk about our weather whiplash and how to approach the change of seasons while riding this temperature rollercoaster!
The two also touch on the right plant for the right place, weed control timing and take your questions!
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The two also touch on the right plant for the right place, weed control timing and take your questions!
Join us Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am for the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show! Give us a call at (225) 499-9526 or leave us a message anytime when you listen to WJBO on our free iHeartRadio app!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns,
are questions about landscaping called four nine nine WGBO.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's four nine nine two.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Six, And we're back to we're here while we're back
from the last time we were exactly exactly to the
w JBO radio show. It's one of those mornings. Good morning,
yes it is. It's a great morning. It's gonna be warm.
The window is still blowing. I have really enjoyed my
(00:43):
windchimes in the last few days.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's been great. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I bought one for a son's birthday and it was
he's growing up, like, especially when it was around two,
he was all about wind chimes. Yeah, and even now
he just goes and sits on alma and watches them.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, you know, years ago there there wasn't many wind
chimes that ever sounded good.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
They were what I call chin changs.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was a tang tang tang tang and.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
My neighbor at one point our property lines were very
shallow on the size and they had this one that
was just god, it was awful, and that's right where
my bedroom went. I thought, I'm gonna get them a
nice one so at least they hear nice one. But yeah,
the ones nowadays, uh, I can remember the the first
(01:29):
really nice sounding windchimes that we had were gracenoe chimes,
and those were the ones where the string doesn't come
in contact with the side of the of the tube
and they would it was from what I understand or
what I remember, it's a point of leased vibration. They
would put a pin from one side to the other
(01:50):
and then they would tie to the pin so it
would vibrate longer and give you that noise longer work.
So many of them are made that way now. Yeah,
and so the sound just lingers. I used to have
them up in my trees above my house when I
live in Goodwood. It's just so I remember. I would
watch people walk around. They'd hear them and they'd be like,
where's that coming from.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I used to enjoy that a lot. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So, and by the way, my name is Sane Mercer
with legs. Nane joined with Rica Scott Rica. It's a pleasure. Yeah, y'all,
can't see us, but we just shook hands. That might
be good thing, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So, but uh, you know, we're here with Clegg's Nursery,
here to answer questions, concerns, calls police.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
About hopefully plants, plants and garden. Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So, yeah, you know, i'd say you're probably well versed
on other topics, of course, but oh.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You've been in the industry a while. I'm sure they
could throw a lot of stuff. I can get a
good answer, exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
So, if y'all wanted to call phone numbers four nine
nine w JBO, that's four nine nine six.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yep, yeah, it works out to be the same thing, right, exactly. Yeah, okay,
all right, I just I'm trying to make sure I
never bring up my phone to look at that. So
oh yeah, I made an assumption all this, but I
think we still have the letters, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yeah, so, but we got a lot of stuff going
on in the nursery trade right now.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah. I like to consider this the beginning of spring. Yeah,
I think isn't the official day of spring, like March
twenty fifth or something like that, that equinox? Yeah, yeah,
right now, we've gone through winter, spring, winter, spring exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We're getting ready to go to winter again, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I was a crazy ride this season.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
It's just been interesting.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I mean we had there's eighty something degrees and then
it dropped to eight in like the span span of four.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
To eighty then back back then. What's today going to be?
I think the high was like eighty two. Yeah, and
then Wednesday or so it's supposed to be back at night.
It's going to be down into the thirties. Yeah, like
little thirties. Yeah, twenty one. I mean, shoot me, thirty
one or twenty nine. I've seen a couple of different things,
so you're going to have to pull You were telling
me how pretty your groundworkids have started to came back
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up again. If I had that starting to that got
tricked and started to come out now, I would be
pulling some freeze protection cloth back.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Out exactly, and thankfully I've got a fresh load. No,
I mean with everything with the freeze, you know, I mean,
we typically we will always have someone stuck.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So it's interesting when.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We might move it to the warehouse during the summer,
but we have it.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, but it's interesting when it starts going quick and
it's like, oh, we've got to order again.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So I thought we were pasted with the snow and everything,
but exactly not really so but we already have our
first call at all, So Scott, we better jumped to
it and ban rouge.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
How are you, Linda?
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Hello, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Certainly.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yes, last spring we planted. We kind of redid our
courtyard and it's kind of a little then garden thing.
But yeah, we put a small a new Japanese ignolia.
I guess they call him, and uh, you know, there's
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a lot of drug. We were out of town for
a little while it got a little dry, and so we,
you know, brought it back and I remember hearing y'all
talk about fungus, and so I did. I did treat
it for fungus because the leaves had started to.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Late summer. That great tone that gets to it, is
that what you're talking about?
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Yeah? Yeah, And so we we treated it and and
then of course by that time the leaves fell because
it was time for the leaves to fall. Okay, so
now it's time for it to start blooming.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I've seen quite blooming already.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, Well this has got a few little but now,
granted this is because we live in University Hills, did
a lot of shade, a lot of oak tree shade.
So we just have a couple of little blossoms and
I don't know what to do. So how do we
bring it back to life?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
What I'm saying, well, there's things that you can control.
You control lack of water, you can control fertility. You
can control certain factors of the soul, like pH adjustments
that need.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
To be done.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You can watch for insects oyster scales really bad on
Japanese Magnolius sometimes. And you can look for a foliar disease.
You said you treated it for a fungal problem last year.
Those are the things you need to watch for. And
it's not complicated. It's very easy, doesn't take a lot
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of time, even especially if the plant's small. So I've
seen quite a few flowers that are opening. I took
quite a few pictures to send to doctor Alan Owens
today so he could put them online. If the flower
has what we called cracked open where you see a
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sliver of the color below the protective sheathing of the flower,
those might suffer with the freeze later this week. If
the flower buds are still tight, they'll go through this
next freeze without a problem and they'll open up later.
We've got plenty. We've got plenty of soil moisture right now.
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If you've never done a soil test in the area,
and you think that that you've had other shrubs that
are not doing well for some reason, they're or you're
getting some discoloration on the leaves. Sometimes that would be
like a striping of the main veins of the leaves
and discoloration between or reversed of that. You might consider
getting a soil test for that. And then it's basically
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it's February fifteenth. You could start fertilization now through the
end of this month and then just enjoy it as
it comes out and starts to grow for you this spring.
It's not hardly so you think it's going to come back.
I mean if it leafed back out after the drought stress.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Didn't It didn't really leaf back out, well, not really,
because it was tough. By the time I treated it,
it was time for the leaves to fall off anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It was everybody else's okay, all right, So yeah, I
thought you said leaf back out and then it dropped
the sleeveskin, so you can do you have little buds
on the end of the stems?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Yeah, I think it though. I mean everybody else is are.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like you know, well well your buds and things.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
So much of the formation of your flower buds starts
in the fall, and if it was in stress during
the fall, don't expect a great flowering. Okay, that's true
for a lot of things that bloom in the early season,
like Azelia's, they bloom early. Their buds start forming the
fall before or late summer before. Yeah, so if you're
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in a stress point at that time, don't expect a
great blooming later for that season. So if the buds
on the end are not dry and crunchy, then it's
probably okay. Or you can take your fingernail and scrape
the outer bark and if it's still a bright I
usually say wet green underneath the bark, then that tissue
(09:12):
is still alive and it's just still dormant, and when
it's proper time for the plant, it will break dormancy
and start to put on either blooms and or leaves.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So scrape the stem.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's one of the easiest ways to tell, okay, and
look for a bright green and it's very shallow as
you scrape the bark.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, I mean just barely scraping in, yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The buds on the end.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Sometimes if the plant is dead, you might not have
any buds, or they might be minuscule and kind of
crunchy brown.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That would be bad.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And I wouldn't be too concerned. If you're seeing other neighbors.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh yeah, it could be different one side of the
house to the next, cause like mine at the house,
they haven't even really started swelling yet, right, And there's
different varieties that break normancy differently, So so yeah, don't
don't be concerned about that. That happens with crape Mertle's
my neighbor's crapemrles booming, but mine's not.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, one might be getting a little more light
than the other.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You might be getting a little more heat from the
soil because it's on the warm side of the house.
There's a lot of factors that can slow even the
exact same type of plant from one side of the
house even to the other. So don't don't worry about that.
Scrape the bark to see, that's one of the easiest
things to do because it's very very thin on a
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magnolia like that. Just take your thumbnail and just scratch, scratch.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Okay, okay, So one more pruning. Is there any reason
to prune a tree at this point after its blooms
or so?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yes, to do structural pruning?
Speaker 6 (10:47):
No, I mean just I mean, if there's my concern
is there might be some some of the outer parts
that are dead.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, I mean if if if you check and they
are dead, you could go ahead and.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Trim that out.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Which you can do is you can start it to
tips and scratch and work back back back until you
get back to green or Linda. And this is what
we're telling a lot of people with their sat swimmas
and things. Do not rush to prune because if you
don't rush now, mind you most time we tell you
to prune in February, but don't rush. Eventually, as the
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plant awakens and starts to put out growth, you'll see
where the new growth ends and if there's deadwood beyond that,
and you'll know exactly where to prune without having to
guess if you're not experienced enough at it.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Oh, good point, Okay, good point.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You can always prune, but you can't glue it back on.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Okay, right, Well, I'm all for salvaging a good plant,
and I just didn't. I was worried that I'd have
to get rid of it to start off.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
No, a young Japanese magnolia oftentimes has stressors during the
summertime here. You can get discolouration on the leaves and such.
In my mind that are established. Yeah, we'll get discoloration
on the lead.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, they'll drop leaves early.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Sometimes the leaves will lose color vigor. That happens often
with the Japanese. Might know, you don't rush no matter
what it is. If you're not certain, delay with the prunters.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Okay, cool, cool.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Okay, Well I might have to call back again in
a couple of months, but that's good advice, and I'll
just have to nurse it back.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Thank you, all right, But I have.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
A great day.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Always at this change of season, there's should I have
done this? Is it time to do this? I've got
weeds coming up, and let me get my weed and feed.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Not not yet, it's too early, you know, Can I
prune this?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know? I know somebody personally it likes to prune early.
And sometimes messes up. So I've got a bunch of
blueberries and pots that are now kind of short. Oh
you know somebody, Yeah so, but you know so there's
some things you do and things you don't do, and
it's so simple. If you have any questions, call us here,
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come by the store. There are some things that are
kind of hard to describe because it's almost time to
get your muscadine is pruned. Yeap Oh to try to
tell somebody how to prune a muscadine, that's kind of hard.
Or to describe somebody how to do a good structural
pruning on crate myrtles without doing crepe murder.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I used to literally walk out with pair of pruners,
say let me show you, and we'd walk out and
I would explain, if you do this, it pushes the
growth this way. If you do this because of it
to flush out, you'll get fingering, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
And see I brought out I bring out a pencil.
Only had to do that twice.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Oh, I brought out a pencil just to show the
gauge of yeah, okay, where we needed to kind of
stay away. Yeah, you know, because it's not good to
prune too thicker than that. No, as you have to
and one of the biggest things. And of course it's
a great time still to plant. Yeah, and since we
said crate myrtles, this is just popped into my mind.
So often people have problems with crate because they don't
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put the proper type of crape myrtle into proper place.
They walk up, they've got a one story house with
a shallow roof, and I want a white crape marle
for the corner. Well, you and I would probably say, oh, well,
let's go look at this a coma. It'll be structurally,
it'll be appropriate for the size. And instead they get
natches yep, because everybody goes, oh white, not oh white
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crape murtle.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh natsus is a nice white but.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Nah, just grows twenty five thirty feet tall.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's too big.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So then what are you doing? You're out there crpe myrtle,
crape murder. You're you're whacking it back and ruining so
much of a crpe merle. Is the beauty of it
is the form.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, it's all the strike.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I mean, yeah, it blooms too, but in the winter
time it looks good. The form, it's just the structure
is just amazing, and it's not hard to do that
at all, but picking the right one, you know, I
want my house. I don't want it to get too big, okay,
but there's ones that don't get too big. I want something.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Big out here. I want okay there once they get big.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Not to go off on a tangent.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
That would never happen and this never never ever, But no,
when are you're going off on a tangent, Jeremy actually
cuts us off.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And splices something else.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You didn't know that, right, yeah, exactly, yeah, but no,
I mean I went we went to I took Molly,
my much better half, to Lafonda, first time I've ever
been there in Lafayette.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And the building next door it was the same, I mean,
two foot flower bed. They got a Tuscarora creepmerk you
and I know how funny that would look. Yeah, but
a lot of people that's how big growing it's cut
to five foot? Oh yeah, And it's just like, yeah,
it's cut to five foot because you put in a
two foot bed. And I grew up with Tuscora crepe
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myrtles at the my parents' house, and those are eighteen foot.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Tall probably probably even taller.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, and just the root mass of them is like
five foot yeah. So yeah, the right plant for the
right place. And if you have a plant that's not
in the right place, just get rid of it. There's
nothing wrong with getting it. Oh but I hate to
take out a bad plant. But do you want to
look at it every day and go, oh, that doesn't
look good there, That'd be an easy choice for me. Yeah,
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and then there, I mean, there's there's so many especially now,
there's so many different options of stuff that kind of
gives you that same accommodation, same feel, the look of
what you're trying to acquire with a I mean, for instance,
the great myrtle, yeah you know, or say you put
a you have it for most of Azalia in a
small bed in space. It's and it smothers out everything, right,
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call that guy out. Yeah, go with something a little smaller.
Put a majesty or an encore majesty. There you got
your purple. It's not too big, It ballooms longer, you know,
all kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
It's bloom forever. What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, that's a flower zella that knows no season, right, Yeah,
so we do have open phone lines at four nine
nine nine.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
We do.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We started off with a really good call this morning,
and I'm sure other people do, so don't don't hesitate
to call.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
What else you want to talk about it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I got?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
I mean, I got a full list, you know, since
I woke up so early this time.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I woke up early, but I didn't make the last
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yes, I want to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You know, we got we do our Week's roses every year,
Week's brand, weeks brand, Yes, yeah, but we do those
every year.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Those are the ones that come in from California. We
get those in in big boxes, bear root, no soil.
We have to we take them out one at a
time and pot them. And they are flushing out gorgeously.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Aren't they.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I know, I cut I'm the one that cut them.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And see yeah, I cut a lot of them at
a grand.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I was testing those clippers, I got ah, you know.
But anyway, No, when we get those in, we get
the sun Belt series in, yeah, which that's a knockout.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
We just got in fresh drift that are gorgeous. The
ones that we have in stock are going to be fine.
Roses are extremely cold hearty people worry about roses all
the time. The freeze, the snow, we can mess up
a flower, but a flour he can mess up a
but it might even cause a little tiny die back
on the edge.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It might cause the leaves to fall off.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But when it gets a little warmer, they're gonna just
look gorgeous, even if you think they don't look good
right now. But we did just get some in from
a region farther south that didn't go through any of
those stressors. They look gorgeous full of flowers.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, which that's the That was the weirdest thing when
I went on a trip down there, because it was
just we make a turn and then it's like, oh,
these are.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
All drifters, yeah, and acres of them.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Huh yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah. It was just like it's been wat since I've
been down there, but I remember what's going down there.
And seeing the Cajun high biscus. Somebody that was growing
them down there, like three acres yep. That was amazing.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
It was just like as far as the eye can see, yeah,
you know, so, but we you know, managed to snag
those and yeah, they.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Got a bunch of those.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The Hollywood series high Biscuits which are really beautiful. I
think we got maybe six seven different variety.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, we got Hollywood and then we have we have Samba,
the Wind series and these were these are high biscuits
we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
These are kind of dwarf as they don't get overly tall. Yeah,
and we got one or two to get taller, the
Fort Myers Yellow and the seven Old Pink seven Old Pink, Yeah, which.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Those are just your classic yeah high biscus.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, but I just I mean there's one called Disco Diva,
which doesn't the.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Flower count is less than some of the other.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Ones, but the flowers saw Yeah, that's the flower size.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I mean it's like eight inches across, you know, and
you see it from the streets.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And that the high biscus season is just now starting,
so it will get nothing but bigger the selection through
the spring. But you know, there's so many people chomping
at the bit. There was a two ladies in the
other day and one of them asked me, says, do
you have any tarhineus? And the other one says, I
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tell you, they're too early, And she looked at me.
I said, ma'am, it's she's right, it's too early. Well,
what else do you have that would you could plant
in the shade? I said, well, uh, normally plant impatience
in the shade. Well, where's the impatient, said ma'am, it's
too early?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What else?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I said, Well, you could do begones? Where's the begones?
Ma'am it's too early and we can't find it. She
just kept asking. Finally, I jokingly said, ma'am, I'm going
to give you a list of plants off but after
every plant. Just just imagine that I'm telling you the
phrase it's too early after everyone, which was she should
have come to seeking why because we haven't a terrania,
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we have impatience. Yeah, but you'd be protecting them there.
It's going to get cold pots, right. The thing is
we pulled in, we pulled in a small selection. Oh yeah,
and we do you know, but I wouldn't do any
mass planting. It'd be, you know, be like planting your
cucumbers in the vegetable garden.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Right now. It's a bit early.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
So but you know, we were talking about hibiscus. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I want to mention all the cordline that came in on.
I think that truck.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Cord line kind of looks like a corn plant, right, Yeah,
similar to like not the eating corn, but yeah, thea
and they're kind of relating.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And they're a neat little color, yeah, like extra yellow
and some of them, yeah, I want to or former
employees dropped off these. I swear they're like three hundred pound,
seven gallon pots at my house.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
He was like, you can have them.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I don't want them, so, but I think I'm gonna
do some of that cordline we got in because it
was just I mean, we got so many ranges of colors.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, and it's just and.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That makes a good interior plant.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And you could use it outside through on your patios
and such. And they can be adjusted to almost full sun. Yeah,
but if you're going to do that, don't buy one
in July that's been in the shade and drop it
in full sun.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It will sunburn just like you might do.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
But if you let it get its base tan, yeah,
you can work it out into the sun.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And doesn't it sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
No, they just need a base tan.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So you know, you got to work them in if
it's if it's depending on what time of the year,
but right now the sun's mild. Once you'd have to
watch the weather. But you know, once you know, you
can move it in and out. If it's in a pot,
put it out, let it start getting. You could put
in full sun right now, the sun Intennesse is not
bad and it would acclimate to that full sun. They're gorgeous,
(22:08):
great around a pool and back patio. It draws your eye, Yeah,
very pretty, grows up more linear tall. So again we've
got open phone lines.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And this is the number six.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I thought that was your job today.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh is it?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Oh? Okay, that's four nine nine WJBO exactly. Yeah, not
a good sh And you know what, we didn't mention
the podcast, the podcast right because every time we finish
the show, Jeremy stays late and just puts his head
down to the desk and just knocks it out and
gets us on iHeartRadio at the WJBOL on the Garden Show.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, I couldn't even tell you when he goes home
after them.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No, it's kind of hard.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And you know what, I get to keep my money
in my pocket to listen to that because it's free.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, exactly like that. No, I mean it's cool.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I mean, and you can tune into something that I
don't know how far back he goes.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I would hope, you know years you know.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
What ever they've started. I don't know how maybe two
years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Three yeah, yeah, two three, I mean there's like, yeah,
it goes all the way back.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, so, I mean there's a ton of information on there.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know what's looking really cool?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was taking different pictures of things blooming for spring.
You know, the Forscythia is blooming. Ye the uh some
of the quints blooming. That red is just that starless
yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Where it's like almost like a coral red.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, gorgeous and no leaves, just flowers. Really looks cool.
Lets you know, hey, springs here, some of the different
the Anne magnolia's are blooming earlier than some of the
other Gosh, is that a vivid dark purple or what?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's gorgeous?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I mean you see it from everywhere.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Right, and the tinker bell is starting to butt out.
It's got some color on the tinker bell. That's a
unique color. That one grows bigger than the an smaller flower, yeah,
not real big flower, right. I called you to look
for a magnolia the other day. Do you remember which
one of us rings masterpiece Frank Matt Is that they're
not blooming yet.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They are, but I've got one.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You got one of the blooming.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean if you put both of your hands together
and made a cup out of it, those flowers can
be that big.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And they are.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Absolutely, It's bigger than a softball.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah are you?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Oh my name is Say.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Mercers saying nice to see you, saying yeah, yeah, who
are you?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Scott Rica.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You know every time we kind of meet here sometimes
for the wjbolone a garden show. It there's kind of
a pattern there. It's happened Saturday mornings eight nine, eight
to nine. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes I hear you on iHeart
on the iHeart radio station. I hear you sometimes on
the podcast. Yeah cool. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Well, if anyone wanted to call and talk to us
and rather than us talking.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Nine w JB, that's the that's the call.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's kind of a change of season and we're going,
well it's a roller coaster. We're going up, down, up,
down uptown. A lot of people here in the last
few weeks, uh trying to weed and feed because they
start to see the weed problems. Yeah, and we always
tell people that we control timing is so important because
some weeds. Somebody brought in some poa anna yesterday that
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was already in seed formation. Oh you don't want to
go to look at my backyard. Well, they're not going
to be able to kill that. It's too late now.
Earlier they could have had some success with control, whether
a pre emergent or a post emergent, but not now.
The plant is so tough to kill when it's at
that stage. And that's that grass. What does Butcher call it?
(25:30):
The little the little figurines.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
With a I don't know. I don't listen to, but
I usually describe it as almost feathery, yeah, right when.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
It looks like tufted rye grass. Yes, it's a little
tiny thing from the sixties, a little uh uh person
with a fluffy head, the hair all over the place.
A little bit before me. I can't think a little
bit before. My wife has a collection of those, and
I can't think of it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Are you talking about the trolls?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Troll hair, that's what he calls it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
So no uh stickers, Yes, sticker walk out barefoot right now.
No sticker is sticking you in the bottom of the foot.
Now is the time to kill it. If you wait
till the sticker sticks in the bottom of your foot
too late, you're not going to even if you kill
the plant, the sticker is already there. The sticker is
the seed for next year. You've missed that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Do it now.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But and I usually recommend spraying me too, because it's
too early. It's too early to put down your weed
and feeds, like why because I prefer not to fertilize
the weeds, oh and also promote fungus, right, And the
grass isn't really active right now, It's not going to
take it up right, and so something else is utilizing
the fertilizer or it is going into solution and drifting away,
(26:48):
And so your plant that you want to use it
is not going to be able to use it because
when it wakes up and once breakfast, the food has
already been taken off the table.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think that's the first time I ever said it
that way. I love that it sounds good, But can
I trademark that?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I guess? So?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Okay, all right, you know, but and I've I may
be on just one side of the fence, but like
the the wheed and feeds and stuff, I really just
look at those. That's a convenience product and that you're
putting out like future pre emergent control. Right, Well, yeah,
(27:26):
it's it's convenience. You're putting it out. It's doing you
some action. It's going to kill the clover, it's going
to kill some stuff. Clover dies out on own anyway,
when it gets hot. Stickers die out, but not before
they deposit a lot of seeds, handbit, chickweed, a lot
of stuff is going to be dropping seas. So you
(27:49):
can do pre emergent controls starting in the late summer
because you have kind of basically two series of plants.
You got warm season plants in cool season plants, whether
it's betting plants or weeds. Yeah, so you start putting
out the cool weather bedding plants in the fall so
(28:09):
they look good through the winter, and that's when the
cool season weeds start to sprout. So if you put
out a pre emergent at that time or spray spray
it at that proper time, you'll kill them before you
ever see them come January February when they're putting seed
downright for the next season, right or you know, quite
often we talk about putting out a pre emergent again
(28:31):
in January, a pre emergent maybe dimension to stop some
things like crabgrass whatever that might be sprouting right there
with the temperature fluctuation starts to sprout. Control that, and
it might even go farther into the season to stop
some of the warm season seeds that are getting.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Ready to sprout soon.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Or we talk about the cocktail, the blending of the
weed free zone and the acherzine herbicides along with your spreadersticker,
because those have post and pre emergent control properties, and
actressine is such a great product. It has post and
pre emergent qualities for both some grasses and broad leaves.
(29:12):
That's almost like four products because you don't see that right.
And then you have the weed free zone, which is
a post emergent, and we mean things that have already
sprouted broad leaves, so not grasses. And somebody long ago
who is way smarter than me, had described the blending
of these two chemicals. And you know, the atresine covers
(29:37):
this much area and y'all can't see it, but I'm
making a kind of a ball shape with my hands.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
It covers this many weeds.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And then I'm gonna move my hands over and the
weed free zone covers this many weeds, same thing with
my hands, and then when you mix them together they overlap.
But then the size of things that it covers I'm
moving my hands much farther apart. It covers a lot
more things that neither want would have done on their own.
(30:02):
When you blend it together, the control that it can
help you receive is tremendous. So we usually you can
do that in the fall, or you can do it
like in January.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I usually recommend when that tempt starts to break in
the fall, which that may be December for us.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You know, or it could be September.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Yeah, it's just whenever it's on average, you know, eighty below,
you know.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I think I think poa Anna starts to germinate when
the ground temperature goes below seventy I think, well, and.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
It's like Crabgrass was looking at a study and it's
like six days of sixty.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Degrees of the nighttime that already that's what it takes
for to germinate. Yeah, so if you do your pre
emergient or post immersion earlier, you'll knock out things that
are too small for you to see. As those plants
to continue to to mature, you'll never see them. It
(31:04):
was kind of funny though. You know, a lot of
people don't want to use chemicals. And this is just
a little quick story. Some lady came in a few
years ago. I got clover. I got to get rid
of the clover. What can get rid of the clover?
And you know, so, ma'am, you can do this. Yeah,
that clover is ever. And finally we had her all
fixed up, ma'am. Here, this will this will do. That'll do, yes, ma'am.
We told her how to use it. And then the
very next thing, I say, now, I need to know
(31:27):
what I can do to promote the bees.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Leave the clover.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
That's why I leave.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I've got one good patch of clover on my sideyard. Yeah,
I have a big patch back by the bee and
so I never and she hangs out, Yeah, And I
don't do a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, we've controlled them.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I just try to maintain my crab grass because.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Well, the best weed control you can have is a
healthy lawn exactly. So that includes proper fertility. There are
some weeds that are sick of low fertility less padiza
that looks like an itty bitty clover and it grows in.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Patches and it starts.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You rarely have less padisa in an area of high fertility.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, it's always something that's depleted.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Right, because your grass can't grow well because there's not
the nutrients it needs. But the less podisa is a lagome.
It actually makes its own nitrogen. It's a nitrogen fixer.
It takes nitrogen from the air. So he's getting food
whether you're putting out fertilizer or not. The grass didn't
getting it, so the grass can't grow. It's best the
(32:34):
less podisa. He's fine on his own, so it starts
to take over the area. You start fertilizing and taking
care of your grass. The grass is a better competitor
than the less podisa. It starts to smother it out.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, it's pretty simple. So the best we control you
can have for your lawn is a healthy lawn. That
might include taking a soul sample. We have the sole
sample collection bags out for LSU's sultest lab. They will
send you recommendations back. If you don't understand those, come
see us. We will need to know how big your
yard is. Uh So, we can make the I've been
(33:08):
answering or describing right, and they're making making sense of it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Right for many years now.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, and it's really not that hard once you get
the groove of it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So, and then.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
When you're putting out a herbicide, and you mentioned earlier,
and I agree with you, quite often the liquid application
of herbicides, you get a better reaction to it. I mean,
you're getting that chemical right where it needs to be,
is going through the leaves. If you're doing it properly,
you get a fast reaction. But what I find is
(33:44):
most people mix the proper amount of chemical into their water,
but then they have no clue how much area they're
spraying that on. And god knows anybody that listens to
show regularly. I do this all the time. This is
a repetitive, very repetitive problem with people. I put this
(34:04):
out and it didn't work. How'd you mix it?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I mix it?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh, you mix it correctly. Now, how much area did
you spray it over? I don't know. I sprayed till
it was empty. That's not a way to do your herbicide.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
When they tell you how to mix it, they also
tell you how much area that is supposed to cover.
If you're mixing a gallon of atressine that's supposed to
cover on the label, they do a five hundred square
foot thing. If you mix enough to do five hundred
square feet and you spray it over a thousand square feet,
you're only half dosing. So you're not going to kill
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what you want to kill because you don't have enough
of the chemical there. So it's important the proper amount
over the proper area.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's extremely important.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Don't spend your money and your time and don't pay
attention to that because you will either not get the
results you want or you'll get some collateral damage that
you don't want.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's hard to hit it on the dot.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, no, it's easy to put it on the dot,
which just a couple of steps.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
But it looks like we actually we did have a caller,
didn't I didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh that's the thing about the pine.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Straw, Yeah, oh yeah, And I want to know they
want to know about pine straw. If we could put
it in vegetable gardens as a mulch, Oh absolutely definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know what some people that ask me about that,
because it's common for people to lime their vegetable gardens.
But pine straw's acid. Yeah, it's acid, but the degree
of change is very small.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
It's very maschool.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I love pine straw, especially around tomatoes. You know why
so many of the folio problems from you didn't say
yes or no soon.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm just listening.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So many of the.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Initial folier problems from on tomatoes generates from splashback from
the soil onto the lower leaves and networks from the
lower leaves.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Up up, up up.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
So if you had something at the base of the
tomatoes besides pinching off some of the lower leaves that
doesn't promote bouncing back from the soil surface, that would
be great.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Pine straw.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
When a water droplet hits a piece of pine straw,
it usually splits the droplet and goes down.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It doesn't bounce back.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So if you use pine straw around your tomatoes and
practice pinching some of the lower leaves off, you can help.
It's not gonna get rid of all of it, but
you can help diminish the speed that you get.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
And that's the same with peppers.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of bell peppers in the
past where it's just I mean there's so much splash
forming on the actual fruit right right, and then it'd
be hard to use around. It's not like rows of radishes.
Well that might be a little tricky, but if you
had rose radishes, you could take some of the crushed
pine straw and put it between the rows. Yeah, and
that crush straw it's even though it's almost powder. Yeah,
(36:49):
you know, but it pretty doesn't It doesn't move, It
doesn't move. It's a very it's a much more refined looks.
A lot of people don't like the raw pine straw,
But raw pine straw you can cover a lot of
area quickly. A lot of people think that you have
to pull the old out before you put new down,
and that's false.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You just add more onto it. Mulch can do so
many things.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Mulch helps mediate temperature fluctuations in the soil, helps with
splash back disease control, helps shade out initial germination of
weed seeds as it decomposes as organic matter back to
the soil, and the other thing. Those those are all
great things to do. I would recommend mulching most everything
(37:32):
that you ever did. Yeah, oh definitely, yeah, so trees whatever,
and pine straw is light in area, so it's hard
to When you drive around town, you see where people
have pulled them mult up on a tree trunk that's raw.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Obviously you don't want to foot of pine strong.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Right, but yeah, and then you just you know, you
you did pine straw last spring.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You're gonna put some more out now.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
If you didn't put any fall, you don't have to
put it really thick. You're just putting enough because you
still have some there. Yeah, so you're not putting as
much as you did initially. You're just putting something. The
freshen up, give you a nice visual, and again as
it decomposes, you're adding good things to your soil.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I'm telling you, let's do it every time, all right.
You're in control of that, all right. So we'll jump
to Donna and Baton rouge. Donna, how are you doing today?
Speaker 6 (38:19):
I'm good. How are you guys doing right?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Thanks?
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Hey Scott? Hey, okay, Hey, So I have several neighbors
that are getting these massive dumps of mulch from newly
chipped yeah trees. It's pretty green and they're not sure
what type of tree it is. And I've been using
it to, you know, for a pot as filler and
(38:44):
that kind of thing. But I didn't know if it
was safe to incorporate it. Since I don't know the
actual origin of it into beds.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Donna, I would doubt that it would be anything that
would be detrimental to you. However, when you're taking raw
wood chip like that, as it decomposes, that is a
large draw on the nitrogen that's available for your plants.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
To use, So it'll just suck nitrogen.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
It's going to suck nitrogen.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
So if you're using that any degree, you're gonna need
to fertilize more regularly because the soil organisms that are
causing the decomposition they draw the nitrogen more efficiently than
your plants. There's a lot of raw material, their population increases,
so you're losing more nitrogen and so your plants are
going to sit there and be hungry, so you have
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to add more regular nitrogen.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Now, I like to put that in the compost pile.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah, you can put it in a compost pile and
just let it work itself down before you could use it.
But you know, when you're doing a compost, you there's
a combination of green to brown. Well, the green is
to provide nitrogen. So if it's in the bed, you're
gonna have to use a fertilizer, whether it's organic blood
meal or just regular fertilizer. If you put too much
(39:57):
on and there's as Zaine said a minute ago, you
don't want to put a foot of something. Well that's
for that. Too too much malt is not a good thing,
no matter what it is. Right, So if you're putting it,
I would never tell people to have more than about
two inches of mulch.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Right, but this is not going to injure or hurt
or harm other than that, other than the fertilization issue.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And and let's say the pH was way off, you
might see some different discolorations within the leaf structure. If
you see that, you could do a soul test. You
could do a corrective measure, but that's relatively low likelihood.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Okay, well that sounds good.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Good, thanks a lot, right, take care of all right,
tell your other half. Hello, we know everybody on here,
so we better go for a while. I used to
hear a lot jump to Mike. All right, he was
also a bad room. All right, good, hey Mike, how
are you?
Speaker 7 (40:50):
I'm doing well?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Right, what can we do for you?
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Help me have already you may have already addressed this,
but I have about a two year to a half
year old satsuma that I had covered up during the
cold whether we had a few weeks ago, and you know,
I had a low I make eleven one light bulb
been there to kind of keep you warm. But all
the leaves are all brown.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And of course my neighbor.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
Crossed the street. He's probably got a six year old
set so much that the leaves that he didn't come up,
and the leaves look exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
I mean, are the trees dead now or not?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Necessarily?
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Yeah, I recommend you just wait until you actually see green.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Now, well let me ask you, like, are the stems
green or brown?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Do you know the leaves are brown now? Now the stems, No.
Speaker 7 (41:43):
The stems, I haven't those of them being brown though them.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Okay, don't rush, go ahead exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
No, We're just gonna need to wait until we see
new foliage leaf ound. We would normally say that pruning
for citrus would occur in February. Yes, when we have
these severe things. Wait, you can go all the way
in to May. Now, that way you'll see.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
I'm playing on touching mind at the house who which
is in the same boat as yours, Until probably late March.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
It's not uncommon for the leaves to turn brown and
fall off and then new leaves to flush back out.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
That said, I wouldn't I wouldn't expect any kind of
good crop this year, right, and then watch sometimes that
stimulates growth from below the graft. Almost all the citrus
that you purchased in this area would be grafted. And
so if you have any little sprouts coming out low
to the ground, first of all, that's not going to
probably conform to the shape of what your plant is,
so take them off anyway. But if it has a
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leaf that has a three pedal or three loabes.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
See and it looks like a bird foot.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Right, that's right, you said we're here, that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
That's the rootstock, and you always want to remove that.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Regardless of when. Okay, but don't rush.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Don't rush.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
There's a good chance for flushback out.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Not all this citrus are equally cold hearty, and satsumas
are on the end that's best for cold heartiness.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
So you've got a great chance.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
Okay, okay, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
All right, thanks Mike.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
We had some good questions, but it all came late
next week eight to nine. They need to get their
questions ready before, right.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
It's because everybody's eating beignees and coffee, drinking coffee.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I didn't see them.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Oh yeah, they might have.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
They might have came in as I.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Was like, all I'm saying is you didn't bring me
in or or Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
I must say I didn't have I didn't have a bene.
I just had coffee. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
So but anyway, it's as always, it's it's a great.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Time doing the show. We've discussed were we covered a
lot of things. There's a lot of things that still
we didn't cover. So they can come by the store.
We've got lots of things going on.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Don't forget.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
We've got some cold coming up.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Consider if you've planted new things and recently, you might
need to do some cold prevention. Get some get your
cloth out, get ready to put it back down again.
Get your lightbulbs eleven what he's mentioned eleven? What light
bulb that's not enough to do anything? Get you a
bigger light bulb, but we'll see you at the nursery,
all right. Zane, have a great day. Jeremy, thank you
(44:10):
so much.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Baton Rouge, have a great day.
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns,
are questions about landscaping called four nine nine WGBO.
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w JBO radio show. It's one of those mornings. Good morning,
yes it is. It's a great morning. It's gonna be warm.
The window is still blowing. I have really enjoyed my
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windchimes in the last few days.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's been great. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I bought one for a son's birthday and it was
he's growing up, like, especially when it was around two,
he was all about wind chimes. Yeah, and even now
he just goes and sits on alma and watches them.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, you know, years ago there there wasn't many wind
chimes that ever sounded good.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
They were what I call chin changs.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was a tang tang tang tang and.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
My neighbor at one point our property lines were very
shallow on the size and they had this one that
was just god, it was awful, and that's right where
my bedroom went. I thought, I'm gonna get them a
nice one so at least they hear nice one. But yeah,
the ones nowadays, uh, I can remember the the first
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really nice sounding windchimes that we had were gracenoe chimes,
and those were the ones where the string doesn't come
in contact with the side of the of the tube
and they would it was from what I understand or
what I remember, it's a point of leased vibration. They
would put a pin from one side to the other
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and then they would tie to the pin so it
would vibrate longer and give you that noise longer work.
So many of them are made that way now. Yeah,
and so the sound just lingers. I used to have
them up in my trees above my house when I
live in Goodwood. It's just so I remember. I would
watch people walk around. They'd hear them and they'd be like,
where's that coming from.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I used to enjoy that a lot. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So, and by the way, my name is Sane Mercer
with legs. Nane joined with Rica Scott Rica. It's a pleasure. Yeah, y'all,
can't see us, but we just shook hands. That might
be good thing, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So, but uh, you know, we're here with Clegg's Nursery,
here to answer questions, concerns, calls police.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
About hopefully plants, plants and garden. Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So, yeah, you know, i'd say you're probably well versed
on other topics, of course, but oh.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You've been in the industry a while. I'm sure they
could throw a lot of stuff. I can get a
good answer, exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
So, if y'all wanted to call phone numbers four nine
nine w JBO, that's four nine nine six.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yep, yeah, it works out to be the same thing, right, exactly. Yeah, okay,
all right, I just I'm trying to make sure I
never bring up my phone to look at that. So
oh yeah, I made an assumption all this, but I
think we still have the letters, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yeah, so, but we got a lot of stuff going
on in the nursery trade right now.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah. I like to consider this the beginning of spring. Yeah,
I think isn't the official day of spring, like March
twenty fifth or something like that, that equinox? Yeah, yeah,
right now, we've gone through winter, spring, winter, spring exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We're getting ready to go to winter again, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I was a crazy ride this season.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
It's just been interesting.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I mean we had there's eighty something degrees and then
it dropped to eight in like the span span of four.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
To eighty then back back then. What's today going to be?
I think the high was like eighty two. Yeah, and
then Wednesday or so it's supposed to be back at night.
It's going to be down into the thirties. Yeah, like
little thirties. Yeah, twenty one. I mean, shoot me, thirty
one or twenty nine. I've seen a couple of different things,
so you're going to have to pull You were telling
me how pretty your groundworkids have started to came back
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up again. If I had that starting to that got
tricked and started to come out now, I would be
pulling some freeze protection cloth back.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Out exactly, and thankfully I've got a fresh load. No,
I mean with everything with the freeze, you know, I mean,
we typically we will always have someone stuck.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So it's interesting when.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We might move it to the warehouse during the summer,
but we have it.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, but it's interesting when it starts going quick and
it's like, oh, we've got to order again.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So I thought we were pasted with the snow and everything,
but exactly not really so but we already have our
first call at all, So Scott, we better jumped to
it and ban rouge.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
How are you, Linda?
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Hello, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Certainly.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yes, last spring we planted. We kind of redid our
courtyard and it's kind of a little then garden thing.
But yeah, we put a small a new Japanese ignolia.
I guess they call him, and uh, you know, there's
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a lot of drug. We were out of town for
a little while it got a little dry, and so we,
you know, brought it back and I remember hearing y'all
talk about fungus, and so I did. I did treat
it for fungus because the leaves had started to.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Late summer. That great tone that gets to it, is
that what you're talking about?
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Yeah? Yeah, And so we we treated it and and
then of course by that time the leaves fell because
it was time for the leaves to fall. Okay, so
now it's time for it to start blooming.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I've seen quite blooming already.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, Well this has got a few little but now,
granted this is because we live in University Hills, did
a lot of shade, a lot of oak tree shade.
So we just have a couple of little blossoms and
I don't know what to do. So how do we
bring it back to life?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
What I'm saying, well, there's things that you can control.
You control lack of water, you can control fertility. You
can control certain factors of the soul, like pH adjustments
that need.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
To be done.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You can watch for insects oyster scales really bad on
Japanese Magnolius sometimes. And you can look for a foliar disease.
You said you treated it for a fungal problem last year.
Those are the things you need to watch for. And
it's not complicated. It's very easy, doesn't take a lot
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of time, even especially if the plant's small. So I've
seen quite a few flowers that are opening. I took
quite a few pictures to send to doctor Alan Owens
today so he could put them online. If the flower
has what we called cracked open where you see a
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sliver of the color below the protective sheathing of the flower,
those might suffer with the freeze later this week. If
the flower buds are still tight, they'll go through this
next freeze without a problem and they'll open up later.
We've got plenty. We've got plenty of soil moisture right now.
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If you've never done a soil test in the area,
and you think that that you've had other shrubs that
are not doing well for some reason, they're or you're
getting some discoloration on the leaves. Sometimes that would be
like a striping of the main veins of the leaves
and discoloration between or reversed of that. You might consider
getting a soil test for that. And then it's basically
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it's February fifteenth. You could start fertilization now through the
end of this month and then just enjoy it as
it comes out and starts to grow for you this spring.
It's not hardly so you think it's going to come back.
I mean if it leafed back out after the drought stress.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Didn't It didn't really leaf back out, well, not really,
because it was tough. By the time I treated it,
it was time for the leaves to fall off anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It was everybody else's okay, all right, So yeah, I
thought you said leaf back out and then it dropped
the sleeveskin, so you can do you have little buds
on the end of the stems?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Yeah, I think it though. I mean everybody else is are.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like you know, well well your buds and things.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
So much of the formation of your flower buds starts
in the fall, and if it was in stress during
the fall, don't expect a great flowering. Okay, that's true
for a lot of things that bloom in the early season,
like Azelia's, they bloom early. Their buds start forming the
fall before or late summer before. Yeah, so if you're
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in a stress point at that time, don't expect a
great blooming later for that season. So if the buds
on the end are not dry and crunchy, then it's
probably okay. Or you can take your fingernail and scrape
the outer bark and if it's still a bright I
usually say wet green underneath the bark, then that tissue
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is still alive and it's just still dormant, and when
it's proper time for the plant, it will break dormancy
and start to put on either blooms and or leaves.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So scrape the stem.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's one of the easiest ways to tell, okay, and
look for a bright green and it's very shallow as
you scrape the bark.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, I mean just barely scraping in, yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The buds on the end.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Sometimes if the plant is dead, you might not have
any buds, or they might be minuscule and kind of
crunchy brown.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That would be bad.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And I wouldn't be too concerned. If you're seeing other neighbors.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh yeah, it could be different one side of the
house to the next, cause like mine at the house,
they haven't even really started swelling yet, right, And there's
different varieties that break normancy differently, So so yeah, don't
don't be concerned about that. That happens with crape Mertle's
my neighbor's crapemrles booming, but mine's not.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, one might be getting a little more light
than the other.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You might be getting a little more heat from the
soil because it's on the warm side of the house.
There's a lot of factors that can slow even the
exact same type of plant from one side of the
house even to the other. So don't don't worry about that.
Scrape the bark to see, that's one of the easiest
things to do because it's very very thin on a
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magnolia like that. Just take your thumbnail and just scratch, scratch.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Okay, okay, So one more pruning. Is there any reason
to prune a tree at this point after its blooms
or so?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yes, to do structural pruning?
Speaker 6 (10:47):
No, I mean just I mean, if there's my concern
is there might be some some of the outer parts
that are dead.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, I mean if if if you check and they
are dead, you could go ahead and.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Trim that out.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Which you can do is you can start it to
tips and scratch and work back back back until you
get back to green or Linda. And this is what
we're telling a lot of people with their sat swimmas
and things. Do not rush to prune because if you
don't rush now, mind you most time we tell you
to prune in February, but don't rush. Eventually, as the
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plant awakens and starts to put out growth, you'll see
where the new growth ends and if there's deadwood beyond that,
and you'll know exactly where to prune without having to
guess if you're not experienced enough at it.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Oh, good point, Okay, good point.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You can always prune, but you can't glue it back on.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Okay, right, Well, I'm all for salvaging a good plant,
and I just didn't. I was worried that I'd have
to get rid of it to start off.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
No, a young Japanese magnolia oftentimes has stressors during the
summertime here. You can get discolouration on the leaves and such.
In my mind that are established. Yeah, we'll get discoloration
on the lead.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, they'll drop leaves early.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Sometimes the leaves will lose color vigor. That happens often
with the Japanese. Might know, you don't rush no matter
what it is. If you're not certain, delay with the prunters.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Okay, cool, cool.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Okay, Well I might have to call back again in
a couple of months, but that's good advice, and I'll
just have to nurse it back.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Thank you, all right, But I have.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
A great day.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Always at this change of season, there's should I have
done this? Is it time to do this? I've got
weeds coming up, and let me get my weed and feed.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Not not yet, it's too early, you know, Can I
prune this?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know? I know somebody personally it likes to prune early.
And sometimes messes up. So I've got a bunch of
blueberries and pots that are now kind of short. Oh
you know somebody, Yeah so, but you know so there's
some things you do and things you don't do, and
it's so simple. If you have any questions, call us here,
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come by the store. There are some things that are
kind of hard to describe because it's almost time to
get your muscadine is pruned. Yeap Oh to try to
tell somebody how to prune a muscadine, that's kind of hard.
Or to describe somebody how to do a good structural
pruning on crate myrtles without doing crepe murder.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I used to literally walk out with pair of pruners,
say let me show you, and we'd walk out and
I would explain, if you do this, it pushes the
growth this way. If you do this because of it
to flush out, you'll get fingering, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
And see I brought out I bring out a pencil.
Only had to do that twice.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Oh, I brought out a pencil just to show the
gauge of yeah, okay, where we needed to kind of
stay away. Yeah, you know, because it's not good to
prune too thicker than that. No, as you have to
and one of the biggest things. And of course it's
a great time still to plant. Yeah, and since we
said crate myrtles, this is just popped into my mind.
So often people have problems with crate because they don't
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put the proper type of crape myrtle into proper place.
They walk up, they've got a one story house with
a shallow roof, and I want a white crape marle
for the corner. Well, you and I would probably say, oh, well,
let's go look at this a coma. It'll be structurally,
it'll be appropriate for the size. And instead they get
natches yep, because everybody goes, oh white, not oh white
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crape murtle.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh natsus is a nice white but.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Nah, just grows twenty five thirty feet tall.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's too big.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So then what are you doing? You're out there crpe myrtle,
crape murder. You're you're whacking it back and ruining so
much of a crpe merle. Is the beauty of it
is the form.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, it's all the strike.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I mean, yeah, it blooms too, but in the winter
time it looks good. The form, it's just the structure
is just amazing, and it's not hard to do that
at all, but picking the right one, you know, I
want my house. I don't want it to get too big, okay,
but there's ones that don't get too big. I want something.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Big out here. I want okay there once they get big.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Not to go off on a tangent.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
That would never happen and this never never ever, But no,
when are you're going off on a tangent, Jeremy actually
cuts us off.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And splices something else.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You didn't know that, right, yeah, exactly, yeah, but no,
I mean I went we went to I took Molly,
my much better half, to Lafonda, first time I've ever
been there in Lafayette.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And the building next door it was the same, I mean,
two foot flower bed. They got a Tuscarora creepmerk you
and I know how funny that would look. Yeah, but
a lot of people that's how big growing it's cut
to five foot? Oh yeah, And it's just like, yeah,
it's cut to five foot because you put in a
two foot bed. And I grew up with Tuscora crepe
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myrtles at the my parents' house, and those are eighteen foot.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Tall probably probably even taller.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, and just the root mass of them is like
five foot yeah. So yeah, the right plant for the
right place. And if you have a plant that's not
in the right place, just get rid of it. There's
nothing wrong with getting it. Oh but I hate to
take out a bad plant. But do you want to
look at it every day and go, oh, that doesn't
look good there, That'd be an easy choice for me. Yeah,
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and then there, I mean, there's there's so many especially now,
there's so many different options of stuff that kind of
gives you that same accommodation, same feel, the look of
what you're trying to acquire with a I mean, for instance,
the great myrtle, yeah you know, or say you put
a you have it for most of Azalia in a
small bed in space. It's and it smothers out everything, right,
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call that guy out. Yeah, go with something a little smaller.
Put a majesty or an encore majesty. There you got
your purple. It's not too big, It ballooms longer, you know,
all kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
It's bloom forever. What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, that's a flower zella that knows no season, right, Yeah,
so we do have open phone lines at four nine
nine nine.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
We do.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We started off with a really good call this morning,
and I'm sure other people do, so don't don't hesitate
to call.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
What else you want to talk about it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I got?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
I mean, I got a full list, you know, since
I woke up so early this time.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I woke up early, but I didn't make the last
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yes, I want to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You know, we got we do our Week's roses every year,
Week's brand, weeks brand, Yes, yeah, but we do those
every year.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Those are the ones that come in from California. We
get those in in big boxes, bear root, no soil.
We have to we take them out one at a
time and pot them. And they are flushing out gorgeously.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Aren't they.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I know, I cut I'm the one that cut them.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And see yeah, I cut a lot of them at
a grand.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I was testing those clippers, I got ah, you know.
But anyway, No, when we get those in, we get
the sun Belt series in, yeah, which that's a knockout.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
We just got in fresh drift that are gorgeous. The
ones that we have in stock are going to be fine.
Roses are extremely cold hearty people worry about roses all
the time. The freeze, the snow, we can mess up
a flower, but a flour he can mess up a
but it might even cause a little tiny die back
on the edge.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It might cause the leaves to fall off.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But when it gets a little warmer, they're gonna just
look gorgeous, even if you think they don't look good
right now. But we did just get some in from
a region farther south that didn't go through any of
those stressors. They look gorgeous full of flowers.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, which that's the That was the weirdest thing when
I went on a trip down there, because it was
just we make a turn and then it's like, oh,
these are.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
All drifters, yeah, and acres of them.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Huh yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah. It was just like it's been wat since I've
been down there, but I remember what's going down there.
And seeing the Cajun high biscus. Somebody that was growing
them down there, like three acres yep. That was amazing.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
It was just like as far as the eye can see, yeah,
you know, so, but we you know, managed to snag
those and yeah, they.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Got a bunch of those.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The Hollywood series high Biscuits which are really beautiful. I
think we got maybe six seven different variety.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, we got Hollywood and then we have we have Samba,
the Wind series and these were these are high biscuits
we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
These are kind of dwarf as they don't get overly tall. Yeah,
and we got one or two to get taller, the
Fort Myers Yellow and the seven Old Pink seven Old Pink, Yeah, which.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Those are just your classic yeah high biscus.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, but I just I mean there's one called Disco Diva,
which doesn't the.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Flower count is less than some of the other.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Ones, but the flowers saw Yeah, that's the flower size.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I mean it's like eight inches across, you know, and
you see it from the streets.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And that the high biscus season is just now starting,
so it will get nothing but bigger the selection through
the spring. But you know, there's so many people chomping
at the bit. There was a two ladies in the
other day and one of them asked me, says, do
you have any tarhineus? And the other one says, I
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tell you, they're too early, And she looked at me.
I said, ma'am, it's she's right, it's too early. Well,
what else do you have that would you could plant
in the shade? I said, well, uh, normally plant impatience
in the shade. Well, where's the impatient, said ma'am, it's
too early?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What else?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I said, Well, you could do begones? Where's the begones?
Ma'am it's too early and we can't find it. She
just kept asking. Finally, I jokingly said, ma'am, I'm going
to give you a list of plants off but after
every plant. Just just imagine that I'm telling you the
phrase it's too early after everyone, which was she should
have come to seeking why because we haven't a terrania,
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we have impatience. Yeah, but you'd be protecting them there.
It's going to get cold pots, right. The thing is
we pulled in, we pulled in a small selection. Oh yeah,
and we do you know, but I wouldn't do any
mass planting. It'd be, you know, be like planting your
cucumbers in the vegetable garden.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Right now. It's a bit early.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
So but you know, we were talking about hibiscus. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I want to mention all the cordline that came in on.
I think that truck.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Cord line kind of looks like a corn plant, right, Yeah,
similar to like not the eating corn, but yeah, thea
and they're kind of relating.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And they're a neat little color, yeah, like extra yellow
and some of them, yeah, I want to or former
employees dropped off these. I swear they're like three hundred pound,
seven gallon pots at my house.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
He was like, you can have them.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I don't want them, so, but I think I'm gonna
do some of that cordline we got in because it
was just I mean, we got so many ranges of colors.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, and it's just and.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That makes a good interior plant.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And you could use it outside through on your patios
and such. And they can be adjusted to almost full sun. Yeah,
but if you're going to do that, don't buy one
in July that's been in the shade and drop it
in full sun.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It will sunburn just like you might do.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
But if you let it get its base tan, yeah,
you can work it out into the sun.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And doesn't it sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
No, they just need a base tan.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So you know, you got to work them in if
it's if it's depending on what time of the year,
but right now the sun's mild. Once you'd have to
watch the weather. But you know, once you know, you
can move it in and out. If it's in a pot,
put it out, let it start getting. You could put
in full sun right now, the sun Intennesse is not
bad and it would acclimate to that full sun. They're gorgeous,
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great around a pool and back patio. It draws your eye, Yeah,
very pretty, grows up more linear tall. So again we've
got open phone lines.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And this is the number six.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I thought that was your job today.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh is it?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Oh? Okay, that's four nine nine WJBO exactly. Yeah, not
a good sh And you know what, we didn't mention
the podcast, the podcast right because every time we finish
the show, Jeremy stays late and just puts his head
down to the desk and just knocks it out and
gets us on iHeartRadio at the WJBOL on the Garden Show.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, I couldn't even tell you when he goes home
after them.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No, it's kind of hard.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And you know what, I get to keep my money
in my pocket to listen to that because it's free.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, exactly like that. No, I mean it's cool.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I mean, and you can tune into something that I
don't know how far back he goes.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I would hope, you know years you know.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
What ever they've started. I don't know how maybe two
years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Three yeah, yeah, two three, I mean there's like, yeah,
it goes all the way back.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, so, I mean there's a ton of information on there.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know what's looking really cool?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was taking different pictures of things blooming for spring.
You know, the Forscythia is blooming. Ye the uh some
of the quints blooming. That red is just that starless
yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Where it's like almost like a coral red.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, gorgeous and no leaves, just flowers. Really looks cool.
Lets you know, hey, springs here, some of the different
the Anne magnolia's are blooming earlier than some of the
other Gosh, is that a vivid dark purple or what?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's gorgeous?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I mean you see it from everywhere.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Right, and the tinker bell is starting to butt out.
It's got some color on the tinker bell. That's a
unique color. That one grows bigger than the an smaller flower, yeah,
not real big flower, right. I called you to look
for a magnolia the other day. Do you remember which
one of us rings masterpiece Frank Matt Is that they're
not blooming yet.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They are, but I've got one.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You got one of the blooming.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean if you put both of your hands together
and made a cup out of it, those flowers can
be that big.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And they are.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Absolutely, It's bigger than a softball.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah are you?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Oh my name is Say.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Mercers saying nice to see you, saying yeah, yeah, who
are you?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Scott Rica.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You know every time we kind of meet here sometimes
for the wjbolone a garden show. It there's kind of
a pattern there. It's happened Saturday mornings eight nine, eight
to nine. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes I hear you on iHeart
on the iHeart radio station. I hear you sometimes on
the podcast. Yeah cool. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Well, if anyone wanted to call and talk to us
and rather than us talking.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Nine w JB, that's the that's the call.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's kind of a change of season and we're going,
well it's a roller coaster. We're going up, down, up,
down uptown. A lot of people here in the last
few weeks, uh trying to weed and feed because they
start to see the weed problems. Yeah, and we always
tell people that we control timing is so important because
some weeds. Somebody brought in some poa anna yesterday that
(25:09):
was already in seed formation. Oh you don't want to
go to look at my backyard. Well, they're not going
to be able to kill that. It's too late now.
Earlier they could have had some success with control, whether
a pre emergent or a post emergent, but not now.
The plant is so tough to kill when it's at
that stage. And that's that grass. What does Butcher call it?
(25:30):
The little the little figurines.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
With a I don't know. I don't listen to, but
I usually describe it as almost feathery, yeah, right when.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
It looks like tufted rye grass. Yes, it's a little
tiny thing from the sixties, a little uh uh person
with a fluffy head, the hair all over the place.
A little bit before me. I can't think a little
bit before. My wife has a collection of those, and
I can't think of it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Are you talking about the trolls?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Troll hair, that's what he calls it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
So no uh stickers, Yes, sticker walk out barefoot right now.
No sticker is sticking you in the bottom of the foot.
Now is the time to kill it. If you wait
till the sticker sticks in the bottom of your foot
too late, you're not going to even if you kill
the plant, the sticker is already there. The sticker is
the seed for next year. You've missed that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Do it now.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But and I usually recommend spraying me too, because it's
too early. It's too early to put down your weed
and feeds, like why because I prefer not to fertilize
the weeds, oh and also promote fungus, right, And the
grass isn't really active right now, It's not going to
take it up right, and so something else is utilizing
the fertilizer or it is going into solution and drifting away,
(26:48):
And so your plant that you want to use it
is not going to be able to use it because
when it wakes up and once breakfast, the food has
already been taken off the table.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think that's the first time I ever said it
that way. I love that it sounds good, But can
I trademark that?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I guess? So?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Okay, all right, you know, but and I've I may
be on just one side of the fence, but like
the the wheed and feeds and stuff, I really just
look at those. That's a convenience product and that you're
putting out like future pre emergent control. Right, Well, yeah,
(27:26):
it's it's convenience. You're putting it out. It's doing you
some action. It's going to kill the clover, it's going
to kill some stuff. Clover dies out on own anyway,
when it gets hot. Stickers die out, but not before
they deposit a lot of seeds, handbit, chickweed, a lot
of stuff is going to be dropping seas. So you
(27:49):
can do pre emergent controls starting in the late summer
because you have kind of basically two series of plants.
You got warm season plants in cool season plants, whether
it's betting plants or weeds. Yeah, so you start putting
out the cool weather bedding plants in the fall so
(28:09):
they look good through the winter, and that's when the
cool season weeds start to sprout. So if you put
out a pre emergent at that time or spray spray
it at that proper time, you'll kill them before you
ever see them come January February when they're putting seed
downright for the next season, right or you know, quite
often we talk about putting out a pre emergent again
(28:31):
in January, a pre emergent maybe dimension to stop some
things like crabgrass whatever that might be sprouting right there
with the temperature fluctuation starts to sprout. Control that, and
it might even go farther into the season to stop
some of the warm season seeds that are getting.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Ready to sprout soon.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Or we talk about the cocktail, the blending of the
weed free zone and the acherzine herbicides along with your spreadersticker,
because those have post and pre emergent control properties, and
actressine is such a great product. It has post and
pre emergent qualities for both some grasses and broad leaves.
(29:12):
That's almost like four products because you don't see that right.
And then you have the weed free zone, which is
a post emergent, and we mean things that have already
sprouted broad leaves, so not grasses. And somebody long ago
who is way smarter than me, had described the blending
of these two chemicals. And you know, the atresine covers
(29:37):
this much area and y'all can't see it, but I'm
making a kind of a ball shape with my hands.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
It covers this many weeds.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And then I'm gonna move my hands over and the
weed free zone covers this many weeds, same thing with
my hands, and then when you mix them together they overlap.
But then the size of things that it covers I'm
moving my hands much farther apart. It covers a lot
more things that neither want would have done on their own.
(30:02):
When you blend it together, the control that it can
help you receive is tremendous. So we usually you can
do that in the fall, or you can do it
like in January.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I usually recommend when that tempt starts to break in
the fall, which that may be December for us.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You know, or it could be September.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Yeah, it's just whenever it's on average, you know, eighty below,
you know.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I think I think poa Anna starts to germinate when
the ground temperature goes below seventy I think, well, and.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
It's like Crabgrass was looking at a study and it's
like six days of sixty.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Degrees of the nighttime that already that's what it takes
for to germinate. Yeah, so if you do your pre
emergient or post immersion earlier, you'll knock out things that
are too small for you to see. As those plants
to continue to to mature, you'll never see them. It
(31:04):
was kind of funny though. You know, a lot of
people don't want to use chemicals. And this is just
a little quick story. Some lady came in a few
years ago. I got clover. I got to get rid
of the clover. What can get rid of the clover?
And you know, so, ma'am, you can do this. Yeah,
that clover is ever. And finally we had her all
fixed up, ma'am. Here, this will this will do. That'll do, yes, ma'am.
We told her how to use it. And then the
very next thing, I say, now, I need to know
(31:27):
what I can do to promote the bees.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Leave the clover.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
That's why I leave.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I've got one good patch of clover on my sideyard. Yeah,
I have a big patch back by the bee and
so I never and she hangs out, Yeah, And I
don't do a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, we've controlled them.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I just try to maintain my crab grass because.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Well, the best weed control you can have is a
healthy lawn exactly. So that includes proper fertility. There are
some weeds that are sick of low fertility less padiza
that looks like an itty bitty clover and it grows in.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Patches and it starts.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You rarely have less padisa in an area of high fertility.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, it's always something that's depleted.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Right, because your grass can't grow well because there's not
the nutrients it needs. But the less podisa is a lagome.
It actually makes its own nitrogen. It's a nitrogen fixer.
It takes nitrogen from the air. So he's getting food
whether you're putting out fertilizer or not. The grass didn't
getting it, so the grass can't grow. It's best the
(32:34):
less podisa. He's fine on his own, so it starts
to take over the area. You start fertilizing and taking
care of your grass. The grass is a better competitor
than the less podisa. It starts to smother it out.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, it's pretty simple. So the best we control you
can have for your lawn is a healthy lawn. That
might include taking a soul sample. We have the sole
sample collection bags out for LSU's sultest lab. They will
send you recommendations back. If you don't understand those, come
see us. We will need to know how big your
yard is. Uh So, we can make the I've been
(33:08):
answering or describing right, and they're making making sense of it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Right for many years now.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, and it's really not that hard once you get
the groove of it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So, and then.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
When you're putting out a herbicide, and you mentioned earlier,
and I agree with you, quite often the liquid application
of herbicides, you get a better reaction to it. I mean,
you're getting that chemical right where it needs to be,
is going through the leaves. If you're doing it properly,
you get a fast reaction. But what I find is
(33:44):
most people mix the proper amount of chemical into their water,
but then they have no clue how much area they're
spraying that on. And god knows anybody that listens to
show regularly. I do this all the time. This is
a repetitive, very repetitive problem with people. I put this
(34:04):
out and it didn't work. How'd you mix it?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I mix it?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh, you mix it correctly. Now, how much area did
you spray it over? I don't know. I sprayed till
it was empty. That's not a way to do your herbicide.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
When they tell you how to mix it, they also
tell you how much area that is supposed to cover.
If you're mixing a gallon of atressine that's supposed to
cover on the label, they do a five hundred square
foot thing. If you mix enough to do five hundred
square feet and you spray it over a thousand square feet,
you're only half dosing. So you're not going to kill
(34:36):
what you want to kill because you don't have enough
of the chemical there. So it's important the proper amount
over the proper area.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's extremely important.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Don't spend your money and your time and don't pay
attention to that because you will either not get the
results you want or you'll get some collateral damage that
you don't want.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's hard to hit it on the dot.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, no, it's easy to put it on the dot,
which just a couple of steps.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
But it looks like we actually we did have a caller,
didn't I didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh that's the thing about the pine.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Straw, Yeah, oh yeah, And I want to know they
want to know about pine straw. If we could put
it in vegetable gardens as a mulch, Oh absolutely definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know what some people that ask me about that,
because it's common for people to lime their vegetable gardens.
But pine straw's acid. Yeah, it's acid, but the degree
of change is very small.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
It's very maschool.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I love pine straw, especially around tomatoes. You know why
so many of the folio problems from you didn't say
yes or no soon.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm just listening.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So many of the.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Initial folier problems from on tomatoes generates from splashback from
the soil onto the lower leaves and networks from the
lower leaves.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Up up, up up.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
So if you had something at the base of the
tomatoes besides pinching off some of the lower leaves that
doesn't promote bouncing back from the soil surface, that would
be great.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Pine straw.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
When a water droplet hits a piece of pine straw,
it usually splits the droplet and goes down.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It doesn't bounce back.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So if you use pine straw around your tomatoes and
practice pinching some of the lower leaves off, you can help.
It's not gonna get rid of all of it, but
you can help diminish the speed that you get.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
And that's the same with peppers.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of bell peppers in the
past where it's just I mean there's so much splash
forming on the actual fruit right right, and then it'd
be hard to use around. It's not like rows of radishes.
Well that might be a little tricky, but if you
had rose radishes, you could take some of the crushed
pine straw and put it between the rows. Yeah, and
that crush straw it's even though it's almost powder. Yeah,
(36:49):
you know, but it pretty doesn't It doesn't move, It
doesn't move. It's a very it's a much more refined looks.
A lot of people don't like the raw pine straw,
But raw pine straw you can cover a lot of
area quickly. A lot of people think that you have
to pull the old out before you put new down,
and that's false.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You just add more onto it. Mulch can do so
many things.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Mulch helps mediate temperature fluctuations in the soil, helps with
splash back disease control, helps shade out initial germination of
weed seeds as it decomposes as organic matter back to
the soil, and the other thing. Those those are all
great things to do. I would recommend mulching most everything
(37:32):
that you ever did. Yeah, oh definitely, yeah, so trees whatever,
and pine straw is light in area, so it's hard
to When you drive around town, you see where people
have pulled them mult up on a tree trunk that's raw.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Obviously you don't want to foot of pine strong.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Right, but yeah, and then you just you know, you
you did pine straw last spring.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You're gonna put some more out now.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
If you didn't put any fall, you don't have to
put it really thick. You're just putting enough because you
still have some there. Yeah, so you're not putting as
much as you did initially. You're just putting something. The
freshen up, give you a nice visual, and again as
it decomposes, you're adding good things to your soil.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I'm telling you, let's do it every time, all right.
You're in control of that, all right. So we'll jump
to Donna and Baton rouge. Donna, how are you doing today?
Speaker 6 (38:19):
I'm good. How are you guys doing right?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Thanks?
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Hey Scott? Hey, okay, Hey, So I have several neighbors
that are getting these massive dumps of mulch from newly
chipped yeah trees. It's pretty green and they're not sure
what type of tree it is. And I've been using
it to, you know, for a pot as filler and
(38:44):
that kind of thing. But I didn't know if it
was safe to incorporate it. Since I don't know the
actual origin of it into beds.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Donna, I would doubt that it would be anything that
would be detrimental to you. However, when you're taking raw
wood chip like that, as it decomposes, that is a
large draw on the nitrogen that's available for your plants.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
To use, So it'll just suck nitrogen.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
It's going to suck nitrogen.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
So if you're using that any degree, you're gonna need
to fertilize more regularly because the soil organisms that are
causing the decomposition they draw the nitrogen more efficiently than
your plants. There's a lot of raw material, their population increases,
so you're losing more nitrogen and so your plants are
going to sit there and be hungry, so you have
(39:31):
to add more regular nitrogen.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Now, I like to put that in the compost pile.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah, you can put it in a compost pile and
just let it work itself down before you could use it.
But you know, when you're doing a compost, you there's
a combination of green to brown. Well, the green is
to provide nitrogen. So if it's in the bed, you're
gonna have to use a fertilizer, whether it's organic blood
meal or just regular fertilizer. If you put too much
(39:57):
on and there's as Zaine said a minute ago, you
don't want to put a foot of something. Well that's
for that. Too too much malt is not a good thing,
no matter what it is. Right, So if you're putting it,
I would never tell people to have more than about
two inches of mulch.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Right, but this is not going to injure or hurt
or harm other than that, other than the fertilization issue.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And and let's say the pH was way off, you
might see some different discolorations within the leaf structure. If
you see that, you could do a soul test. You
could do a corrective measure, but that's relatively low likelihood.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Okay, well that sounds good.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Good, thanks a lot, right, take care of all right,
tell your other half. Hello, we know everybody on here,
so we better go for a while. I used to
hear a lot jump to Mike. All right, he was
also a bad room. All right, good, hey Mike, how
are you?
Speaker 7 (40:50):
I'm doing well?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Right, what can we do for you?
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Help me have already you may have already addressed this,
but I have about a two year to a half
year old satsuma that I had covered up during the
cold whether we had a few weeks ago, and you know,
I had a low I make eleven one light bulb
been there to kind of keep you warm. But all
the leaves are all brown.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And of course my neighbor.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
Crossed the street. He's probably got a six year old
set so much that the leaves that he didn't come up,
and the leaves look exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
I mean, are the trees dead now or not?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Necessarily?
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Yeah, I recommend you just wait until you actually see green.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Now, well let me ask you, like, are the stems
green or brown?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Do you know the leaves are brown now? Now the stems, No.
Speaker 7 (41:43):
The stems, I haven't those of them being brown though them.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Okay, don't rush, go ahead exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
No, We're just gonna need to wait until we see
new foliage leaf ound. We would normally say that pruning
for citrus would occur in February. Yes, when we have
these severe things. Wait, you can go all the way
in to May. Now, that way you'll see.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
I'm playing on touching mind at the house who which
is in the same boat as yours, Until probably late March.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
It's not uncommon for the leaves to turn brown and
fall off and then new leaves to flush back out.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
That said, I wouldn't I wouldn't expect any kind of
good crop this year, right, and then watch sometimes that
stimulates growth from below the graft. Almost all the citrus
that you purchased in this area would be grafted. And
so if you have any little sprouts coming out low
to the ground, first of all, that's not going to
probably conform to the shape of what your plant is,
so take them off anyway. But if it has a
(42:38):
leaf that has a three pedal or three loabes.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
See and it looks like a bird foot.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Right, that's right, you said we're here, that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
That's the rootstock, and you always want to remove that.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Regardless of when. Okay, but don't rush.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Don't rush.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
There's a good chance for flushback out.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Not all this citrus are equally cold hearty, and satsumas
are on the end that's best for cold heartiness.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
So you've got a great chance.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
Okay, okay, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
All right, thanks Mike.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
We had some good questions, but it all came late
next week eight to nine. They need to get their
questions ready before, right.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
It's because everybody's eating beignees and coffee, drinking coffee.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I didn't see them.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Oh yeah, they might have.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
They might have came in as I.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Was like, all I'm saying is you didn't bring me
in or or Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
I must say I didn't have I didn't have a bene.
I just had coffee. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
So but anyway, it's as always, it's it's a great.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Time doing the show. We've discussed were we covered a
lot of things. There's a lot of things that still
we didn't cover. So they can come by the store.
We've got lots of things going on.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Don't forget.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
We've got some cold coming up.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Consider if you've planted new things and recently, you might
need to do some cold prevention. Get some get your
cloth out, get ready to put it back down again.
Get your lightbulbs eleven what he's mentioned eleven? What light
bulb that's not enough to do anything? Get you a
bigger light bulb, but we'll see you at the nursery,
all right. Zane, have a great day. Jeremy, thank you
(44:10):
so much.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Baton Rouge, have a great day.
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