July 26, 2025 • 40 mins
Weed control tips and questions this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Zane and Jessica from Clegg's Nursery!
There's also tips on insect control, answering your questions on when to start fertilziing brussel sprouts and cabbage seedlings and more! Plus the Plant of the Week: Soiree Vinca!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lon and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, Lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, call four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WJBO One and
Garden Show. My name's Sae Mercer joined here with Jessica Foysi.
How's it going.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's going good?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Dup pronouncer, Right, yeah, awesome, awesome, all right, things are
going great this morning. You know, it's it's nice and
cool today. It's pretty pretty nice overcast whether you know,
I almost want to go garden, except I have to
go to work, so uh but you know, if y'all
any calls, questions or concerned, y'all could reach us at
four nine nine w JBO. That's four nine nine nine
(00:56):
five two six. And we also have a podcast you
listen to us on. It's the iHeart Radio station website.
I think that's right, Jeremy, it's our free iHeart oh
free iHeart radio. See I forget about free. Never sounded
so good, I know so but we got a lot
of stuff to talk about today, even though it's so
(01:16):
hot outside. Normally I wanted to start the day talking
about weed control. With all this wonderful rain we've been having,
we've got a lot of weeds popping up in the
lawn and the flower bed. I mean, I was pulling
out the driveway today and I just see alligator weed
popping up all up in my Saint Augustine, which is nice.
(01:40):
It kind of blends until there's no more Saint Augustine
because the because it chokes everything out. So but you know,
we've got that popping up right now. This is usually
the time of the year. That's like your kalinga, your
chamber better. That's all very active. And then I've had
a ton of calls lately about torpedo grass, which is
(02:03):
probably the bait of my existence. Not to go off
on a tangent, but like almost did not buy my
house because of torpedo grass in my back in the backyard,
Like I almost just walked away, Like I mean, I
had to have my boss tell me that I was
crazy to walk away from a house just because it
had torpedo grass in the backyard. But you know, that's
(02:26):
just how I mean, that's how it goes. It's little
things like that that I'm just like, I don't know
if I want to deal with that. So uh, but
you know, there's a lot of things we can put
out right now to take care of all those things
we've got for chamber better and really just general weed control.
We want to make sure we have a pre emergent out,
(02:48):
So like for chamber better, that's going to be a
different product than say most of your other grassy weeds
and broad leaf. So that's typically gonna be your gallery
which is a broad leaf. Weed control covers a lot
of broad leaves, but the biggest thing that covers is
that chamber bitter, which if you don't know what chamber
(03:08):
bitter is, that's going to be it looks like a
little mimosa plant with a little bit of I mean, honestly,
there'll be two inches at the ground and they're putting
on seeds already, and no seeds drop every time you
pull the weed pull them. Yeah, So it's just I mean,
it's kind of a constant little battle. So we want
to typically want to try and put those pre emergence
out earlier in the year to give us the longest control.
(03:32):
But if you haven't done that, you should go ahead
and just go ahead and get it in because they'll
just keep on seeding and seeding until the first frost.
So but you know, we got that the alligator weed.
That's a little bit different. Beast cooler weather. You can
use like your weed free zone or anything with two
four D to really not get back well, but right
(03:56):
now we want to use like your Celsius MM doesn't
really hit it well. Celsius is the only one on
the market that I kind of find gets good control
on it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
What does that one look like?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So the alligator weed, the leaf looks like Saint Augustine,
all right, but it's got it's more fleshy, kind of
like a succulent look to it, all right, So a
thicker leaf, all right, puts on like a little whitish flower.
But the flower is not super noticeable like it it's
(04:32):
so small. It opens up and it kind of burns
out quick, but it'll just kind of spread. You'll see
it pop up. It'll just be like a little leaflet.
And then depending on the amount of rainfall we're getting
or irrig if it's in irrigation, it'll just turn from
a leaflet into an actual clump and the like. It's
usually about a week week and a half. It's a
(04:53):
pretty quickly actively growing weed. So and you know, normally,
if I don't see it, I don't have weeds, you know,
But usually about this time of year, that's when it
really starts to explode, just because we've got ideal hot
temperatures and this is on average usually or I'll say
(05:13):
a rainy season, whereas we typically get a little bit
more rainfall. So but got that going on in the yard,
and you can still spray. We can spray most products.
There's a few products we can't spray. But like you're
like I was talking about, the Celsius works great. There's
also a nuts edge control that has some activity on
(05:37):
some of the weeds we've talked about. Big thing is
it takes care of like your sedges, your kolingo, that
kind of stuff, which that also is just heavily actively
growing right now. It's the one downside. I was talking
to a customer the other day about it's the one
downside of not being in a drought, because when you're
(05:58):
when we're in a drought, the weeds typically aren't growing
as much, so it's easier to kind of get them
under control then. Yeah, but once it's once it's raining time,
then everything's just like actively growing all the time, all
the time. So uh, but we've got that going on.
And again, if anyone wants to call, because I mean
(06:20):
I love hearing myself talk all right, but if anyone
wants to call, I had any questions concerns, you could
reach us at four nine nine w JBO. That's four
nine six, so, uh, you know, and if no one's
gonna call Jessica, I mean, well as we'll just talk
about you know whatever. So but you know, we've got
(06:42):
a few more minutes till the next segment, so I
want to just kind of touch up. Got a few
things still available, like perennials that we don't get typically
very often. We've got plenty of the Siam ginger, which
I've talked about it on the radio, for a ginger
that originates from like Thailand, Cambodia area. And it's just
(07:07):
a hearty perennial ground ginger. You plant it in the ground,
I mean you can put it in pots. It's really nice.
It's like an add on feature for like a featured pot.
But the typically the last ginger to actually leaf out
after frost, so you won't see them leaf out until
(07:27):
kind of i'd say middle spring. The middle of spring,
you'll see them start to pop up. But then they'll
bloom pretty quickly, and so it's a heavy blooming. I mean,
I've got the dark pink at the house and they're
just full of flowers. And they hold the flowers usually
five days something like that, about about a week and
(07:48):
then you can go cut the stock and it'll send
up another stalk. But that's a neat little plant that
we typically only carry this time of year. You don't
see them too often unless it's like some overflow from
the previous year. We won't see them available like say
in the winter kind of thing. Well, and I went
(08:10):
to the gala, what was that like a month ago,
the ln LA Gala. So it's just a essentially it's
just a fundraiser for the Landscaper Association. It's a really neat,
neat little thing Louisiana does. And one of the nurseries
that was all their auction they're silent auction items, was
(08:32):
just like twenty different varieties of them. And I mean
this happens with any plant, you know, Like I mean
day lilies, there'll be ten thousand different varieties. Yeah, but
it just always kind of blows me away. It's like,
but they can make out of it well that it's
just I mean, she had twenty different varieties on there,
and I was like, man, I only knew about three
of them. Yeah, I just assume you know, she's and
(08:54):
so she's showing me like this one's the striation on
the leaf is different than this one, you know, and
all that, and it's just a I mean, it's a
neat little plant.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah. So are they It's not a bulb, is.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It, uh yes? Or rhizome. Yeah. I think it's a rhizome.
I always mix them up, but they uh, you know,
you just plant it in the ground, cut it back
in the frost comes back every year.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Uh spread out yep.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, they spread us. I would say there's slower compared
to some of the other gingers, like the purple one
I have, which I planted these. This will be the
second year I've had them in the ground or the
second winter. Yeah, they'll get I mean they're probably i'd
say twelve inches wide.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And they made it through the snow.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, perfect. And in fact I didn't even hardly
mulch that side, so I didn't think they were going
to come back because I've forgot to mulch it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But they all pop down really nice. They get i'd
say twenty inches on average, not counting the bloom spike.
Some of them get a little taller, some of them
are a little shorter. But they're a neat little perennial
that can tolerate I actually tolerate more sun than shade,
so like I have them in the shade. They do phenomenal,
(10:14):
just like all gingers. But the I mean there's some
planted down the street from me, a guy planted by
his mailbox. They're in full sun all day, no irrigation
unless he walks out and puts a water and can
on them, you know, but they just kind of bloom
and hang out. Then you cut them back in the winter,
mulch over him, and then come back the next year.
(10:37):
So uh. And we also have we got in with
that load of those Siam ginger. We got in a
neat perennial hibiscus or rose mallow. It's the I believe
it's called summer carnival. And it's a variegated leaf kind
of that what would you call that color on that flower,
(11:00):
like a like a rose, yeah, yeah, a rose red. Yeah,
And that's a neat little plant too. Comes back every
year you get the flower. The flower is probably open
for a day. You get about a day out of
each flower, but as one finishes, the next one pops out.
(11:21):
So it's kind of of a just a rebloomer. They
just like all hibiscuits, they get you know, a fi's
white flies, all that good stuff, which we can't really
avoid that. But it's just a I mean, a neat
little perennial that you just pop in. Like I've got
some planted in the in my pollinator bed that I
(11:44):
just I hack it back to the ground every year
and then it pops out through my I've got a
bunch of cone flower in that area. So it's just
I select the stalk when it comes out.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And you cut it all the way down.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, I just cut it. It's usually like four
in which is really I'll leave a little bit of
the cane just so I can kind of see where
it is. So but anyway, so if any calls, questions
or concerns, please call it four nine two six. I
can add some other questions to my list, so we
(12:18):
don't have to talk about my list on the radio. No, uh,
which I mean we we prepare an extra list just
in case we don't get any callers. But please call,
please call.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Uh. So I wanted to go ahead this segment kind
of touch up on insect control because that is something. Look,
we got a caller, come, yeah, so let's talk about
insect control. He takes the phone call. We just have
to throw the phone number out enough, that's all. So
talking about insect control because as well as we control
(12:53):
and uh, for this time of year, insects have been
kind of horrendous. Yeah, I mean we've got flea beetles out,
lace bugs, white flies, all all the heavy hitters, all right,
you know. And so we're gonna go ahead, and I
(13:15):
guess he's already man, got two callers exciting. But I'm
just gonna touch up on this just for a second
and then we'll jump to Dale in Central. So he's
not holding too long. So right now, we got all
these insects coming out. So I just want to kind
of take a point to mention it behooves us to
(13:38):
take a tour of our flower beds periodically before, so
that we can keep pests under under.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Control, you know, to monitor.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, So, like I've got milk weed that it's on
my list to cut back, all right, But I'm not
going to touch that until it gets really bad, because
you know, I'm trying to get some caterpillars on there.
I don't. I don't think they're going to happen this year.
I think it's kind of a wash. But I as
long as my ef it's stay on my milk weeed,
(14:12):
that's fine, you know. But when I start to have
generations expand, right, all right, that's when we really want
to start looking at treating and everything. And milk weed's
a special case. I just don't spray it. So as
long as I can keep the ef it's on there,
I'm good. You know. Now your flea, beetles, your caterpillars,
that's gonna be something a little different. So but we'll
(14:35):
jump back to this topic and a few Let's go
ahead and jump to Dale in Central Dale. How's it
going doing all right, y'all? Oh, not too bad. I'm
enjoying this kind of cool weather, you know, before it
gets hut. Yeah, so what's going on.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I have some Brussels sprouts and cabbage that I started. Actually,
it'll be two weeks ago tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Hmm.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
They're already sprouted, they're already starting to their first set
of true leaves are coming out. I was wondering if
it was safe to go ahead and start with like
a little low dose water soluble fertilizer for them.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, for sure, if you've got the true if the
true leaves have popped out, you're good to go. H
what kind of fertilizer you use? If you don't mind
me asking?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
H I was thinking because I already have some uh
some of that fertile root stimulator.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Hit it with that. That's not gonna hurt it at all. Uh,
it's not organic, so unless that doesn't matter to you.
I mean I I used to use a root stimulator
on my veggies just to give them a better start. So,
but that would be a good good place to start,
and I might look at I really like Fisher moulsion fertilizer.
(15:54):
It's got a little bit of an odor, but as
long as you're watering and outside, it doesn't really matter.
But yeah, that's just.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
And it's separate from the house, so okay.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, no, the fish emulsions, it's just fast acting nitrogen,
all right. So I would probably look at using that
coming up, like as you get a little bit of
size to the plant.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, okay, all right, Yeah, they're only the.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah. Yeah, Like once they get like i'd say, like
three three four inches somewhere right around there, I would
start using that and you could throw in some root stimulator.
It's not gonna hurt it by any means, right, Uh,
but I would probably use that just to increase your
nutrient or your nitrogen uptake. Okay, all right, because just
(16:46):
just in general, all your vegetables are heavy, heavy feeders
on average, and the key ingredient they're gonna need is
that nitrogen. So everything else is usually utally got some
phosphorus and some potassium in the soil. Like that's kind
that fleeds out much slower than your nitrogen does.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I definitely, uh, because I got some ocra growing right now.
They're probably about two foot tall, and I supplement every
two weeks with some calcium nitrate.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah no, that's perfect for him. You got any you
got any fruit off the okre yet?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I've got some growing. Okay, they're probably about an inch
long right now.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, my mom. The only reason I asked. My mom
talked to me the other day when I was at
the pool and she was all excited because she started
picking some.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, it shouldn't be much longer. I should be able
to start picking some off of mine.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah. So that's one plant. Like, my wife's not real
big into it, and then my kids are picky. But
that is. I mean, you could get like three four
plants of okra and you'll have you got okra for
like two years. So I got it.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I got quite a few more than that. I think
I have maybe fifteen nice.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Nice. Oh cool, Well, it sounds like you're pretty set up.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I appreciate it, all right, have a.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Good one, Dale, That was a good one. Was. I
gonna go in and jump to Rick and Benton Rouge? Rick,
how are you today?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Hey? Hope hopefully better after y'all tell me what to do. Yes, sir,
I've got two issues with you talking about weeds. I've
got a tall grass going in a couple of my guards.
You don't see it until it gets over the four
feet tall above these alias. Let's say and what I
did was I put a vinyl glove on a cloth
glove and dip my fingers and round up and wipe
(18:45):
it on the leaves as much as I can get
on it. Yeah, it's dying, but I don't Is that
going to get back all the way down to the root?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, it should like the if you used round up?
Did you use like the old formulation or the new one?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Uh, it's a I just bought recently. Okay, it's not
the stuff that kills it instantly.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Okay. Well, the reason I was asking is because like
one of them, like the old formulation, is glyphosate, and
so that that product is typically better at killing grassy
weeds down to the root. The new formulation of round
up the main it's it's a burning agent mixed with
(19:27):
a root killer. But the root killer is not a
typically as effective on grasses.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So what I'm got here, I just got to contain
on it. So it's a bio advanced weading grass killer.
It's eleven point.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, yep, you're good.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, Okay. I've also got which was bought this house
in the eighties. A lady told us to put this
ardija into our ground covered a couple of spots. Huh,
I'm still trying to kill it. Yeah, Ardisa the glove
with the round up and wipe it on it, and
it's getting brown on the edge, but it's not really dying.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah. Uh. Ardisia is kind of tough. I would try
to so you could. What I've done before is you
can actually is it by itself? Is it pretty isolated?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's in one section of the garden, but it's all
the roots are growing underneath the hawthorns and the ranges
and stuff like that, and you can't get the roots out.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah. Uh So one option would be to us I've
done this before. I've I've hit it with a weed eater,
all right, this is the way.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I can't get in there.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You can't get in there with.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
The glove of white, but I can't even spray round
up on it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, So the I would just try and you could
try and pull some out if you can.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Try to loose it up, get the roots.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah. And it sounds like anything, yeah, anything under like
the Indian hawthorns, anything kind of with coverage. You're probably
gonna have to just try and be as thorough as
you can and hand.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Pull multiple treatments with the round yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Multiple treatments with the roundup.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, but I'm seventy years old. It's not easy to
get down there anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, I'm thirty five, and it ain't easy to get
down there.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I got a milkake to so I don't have to
get down on the ground.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Really. Yeah, my mom, Yeah, I was it. My mom
guilted me into doing some stuff the other day at
the in the yard and I felt like I was
showing my age because I groaned a little bit getting up.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So get up down yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, sir, so, yeah, I was just trying. The roundup
should work on the rdesia. It's just gonna take. It's
gonna take some multiple treatments kind of deal. You know.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I could hold it on there, but yeah, and I
don't know if they making.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Any easier for you. I've used to paint brush before.
I've actually mixed it in like a little cup and
just used a paint paint brush.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That little gallon bucket. I got to the little cheap
paint brushes that I bought about whole box of them.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I used to do it's just like the
little I think it's like a four inch or five
inch wide. Yeah, and I had the one I had
it was like that kind of uh, it was more
of like a like a foam and you know I'm
talking about like almost like a pond filter.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Matt might have one of those on that too.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I had bet I had best luck with that
when I was using a paint brush.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So I sucked a lot of tools over there. I
probably got to be in there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yes, sir, all right, Rick, any other questions I can
help you with?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
All good to go up.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Thanks, all right, have a good one. So uh before
we get back to uh insect control, because I want
to finish up on that real quick. If anyone had
any more calls, questions, or concernings, you can reach us
at four nine nine nine five two six. That's four
nine nine nine five six. Also have that free iHeart
podcast you know that are wonderful producer always tells us about.
(23:03):
But you know, let's jump to insect control because I
want to go ahead and use most of this segment
for the Planet of the Week. So we were talking
about how we had, you know, a bunch of insects
coming out. There's caterpillars, a lot of other things, and
I you know, I use every tool in my tool shit,
(23:23):
you know, but I'm not going to necessarily bring out
the flamethrower. And this is metaphorical, all right. You know,
if I see some caterpillars, for instance, like I've got
a Gordlinia tree in the in the yard, some dagger
moth caterpillars we're feeding on it, and you know, I
(23:45):
can't have them eating that plant to the ground because
it's a pretty it's a slower growing tree. So you know,
I mean I have insect hell like I have. I
use eight I use triple action, all that stuff. For that,
I just used a host. You know. Sometimes the I
(24:06):
don't want to say the lazier way, but the you know,
I don't want to go out and typically spray unless
it's a bad enough infestation. You know. Now, granted, if
I get if I find mealy books, I'm gonna go
clip out the infestate, like the majority of the infestation,
and then I'll spray the plant just to be sure,
(24:26):
you know. But it's sometimes the easier, softer way is
the better way. Like for spider mites, for instance, I
was reading a post on I'm a member of the
house plant Facebook page. Whether or not that's a good
thing or a bad thing, I don't know. But somebody
I know was talking about Alocasia how she's done with
(24:48):
that Alocasia lutia because it has spider mites, and I
forgot to actually message her. But it's like, I've had
really good luck just washing the leaves occasionally, you.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Know, just keeping it under control.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, just keeping it under control. Like obviously, like you know,
a drier leaf right is going to attract them more.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, they like the dry yeah hot, But.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like so like I mean, I have misters. I keep
all my house plants during the growing season outside so
that they look big and luxurious from the fall when
I want people to come over. So they're like, what
did you do? And it's you know, I put it outside,
I put some Osma cot fertilizer on it, and then
you know, I just make sure the bugs stay off it.
(25:36):
So but I've been using misters to essentially wash the
leaves periodically, you know, where it's just I mean, and
that helps keep my populations under control because I do
a lot of philodendrons, and they're pretty much the same
as allocations where they'll just get mites because it's a
good they have good coverage, like their leaves are typically,
(26:01):
so it's just good coverage to protect the plant, to
protect the insect.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well, I mean I found a wasp nest the other
day because I was just like, oh, they got a
whole wasp nest underneath one of these leaves, you know,
And then my neighbor walked over to compliment me on
my flower bed and stuff and distracted me. Then I
got stung, you know. But it's it's just plants typically
those broader leaves, and this is just I mean those
(26:29):
gingers we talked about earlier, Like there's some varieties of
gingers that have big, broad leaves, and I mean usually
you can count on the rainfall to wash the leaves.
But if we're going in between rainfalls, typically your irrigation
system or you're handwatering, you're not going to wash the leaves.
(26:50):
And I'm not saying you have to do that every
single time you water, but like you know, once a week,
you know, once every two weeks even, just go out
and if you wash the backside of the leaf, that's
where the mites will typically be, and that's just how
you keep them under control because once they once they've
been on the plant for a while, just in general,
(27:12):
and they've been feeding on the plant, it starts to
look kind of speckled, h sickly, and it honestly uh
aphid dam or not aphid sorry, uh, spider man damage
and say lacebug damage are pretty similar to each other,
you know. They they essentially sucked some of the corephill out,
(27:35):
causing this like almost like peppered look to the leaf,
not typically appealing. And once it, once it's done that,
you might as well just cut the leaf off because
it's not gonna it's not gonna green up again, and
it's better to just let the plant spend energy on
producing a new leaf versus keeping an old leaf. So right,
(27:57):
let's go ahead and jump the plane of the week
real quick, I guess. Yeah. So our plan of the
week today is the sure Venca. And so that's a neat,
little patented fridy of inca that's been on the market
for a few years now. Full sun. Don't ever plant
it in shade because if it stays too moist. Venca
(28:18):
in general, we'll just we'll just kind of croak. Yeah,
but it uh, you know, it's been on the market
a while now. I think I started seeing it probably
seven eight years ago. It's probably there longer than that.
I just, uh, it was oblivious to it. Yeah, but
I mean there's semi there's semi trailing. I wouldn't say
(28:38):
they're true trailing. Yeah, it's almost like a compact grower.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
They're more mounting that they do. Yeah, like kind of
yeah go over there.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Over the sides of potts, not to the point where
like the cascade venca will like hang on the ground.
But it's just it's a very tight plant mounting plant.
They come in a few colors. There's your purple, your pink,
there's a white with a polka dot. Like, there's a
couple of other ones, but you don't see them too
too often in.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
A darker purple.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but they I find they tend to show color
better than your other venka. The other venka, you get
a bigger flower, right, I mean, I mean it is
it's like ten times the size of the the swar
a flower. But the swore a puts on so many
flowers in a mass planting. I mean you'll see that
(29:32):
way more than you'll see your venka typically, And it
I like it more because it's a it's a small leaf,
all right, so you really just see the flowers when
they're in bloom. Yeah, and uh, most of your regular
vinka varieties, those are gonna get kind of tall. So
using that as like a border plant, so say it's
(29:55):
a border of your your color bed or like your
front section. All right, the sarre is typically gonna look
a little bit cleaner. This is gonna stay tighter, and
so really like those, we carry them all year, typically
during the growing sea during the hotter months, and we'll
(30:15):
get them in like a four and a half inch pot.
And Color Division does these really nice little planter pots,
which's just like a new little add on to your yard. Yeah,
and so they typically performed pretty well during our wetter months.
You just want to make sure that bed dreams well,
like you don't want to put them in a sopping
(30:36):
like a soaking wet area. So but real neat plant
is super cute and it's just a cool little alternative
to your regular old venka that people have been buying for,
you know, fifty years. So but we're gonna have to
jump because we got another caller, Jessica, So very exciting
it's gonna be Sue and Hammond. Sue, how can we
(30:58):
help you today?
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I have a question about nut segees, ma'am. I've had
gotten some in my front bed and we thought it
would be a good idea to put some really heavy
landscape fabric on it and then put rocks on top
of it. It hadn't been it's just growing underneath.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But yeah, I don't know to it'll just yeah, it'll
just punch through that. And I'm yeah, I'm typically iffy
on the like the rock stuff rock as a flower
bed mulch anyway, because it kind of cooks the area,
so it can cook your it can cook your plants.
(31:37):
So she got to be careful with that. Uh so,
you know, and it's just, i mean, different thought processes
with it. But the best.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
Thing I have regular plants in there. That's what I'm
worried about. I don't want to kill what's in there.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. And the fabric, I mean
a lot of people have started getting away from using
the fabric just because because it kind of suffocates the well,
it'll suffocate the plant because it doesn't allow air or
like gas transfer from the soil, so that might be
(32:15):
something to look at in the future, you know. But
the for the nuts edge, i'd recommend using. There's a
and is it the tall nuts edge? Yeah? Okay, so
that that product i'd recommend is called sedge Hammer. So
that's been on the market forever. It's pretty much an
over the top spray. There's a few things you want
(32:38):
to be careful spraying it around, like say roses, all right,
but on on average, you can pretty much spray that
anywhere and it just kills nutsedge. So that would be
the product to use. And what I typically recommend is
you never want the sedge to go to seed, right,
(32:59):
So either's spray, yeah yeah, no, And I'm with you.
So if you can go in and either you pull
it and you wait till it comes up again, or
or what I used to do when I was a
contractor was a cut it. I would just tip it
to like four inches tall and then spray that because
you've got to have you got to have foliage for
(33:21):
the product to absorb. And then but then by cutting it,
you're preventing it from going to seed and spreading elsewhere. Okay,
And also it doesn't stand out too much to the homeowner.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because when I try to pull it, it
just basically bracs. It'd probably better to cut.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It or yeah. Well and like especially since you got
the tarp down and the rock and everything, it's just
going to make it even harder for you to actually
pull it and kind of follow the runner.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
So yeah, and they're like stacked on top of you know,
there's probably ten white things and they like a stack
on top of each other.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Yeah around the found days and I'm it's awful.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So I would, I would. What I would do is
just get a pair of clippers first, cut everything to
about four inches so it doesn't really stand out when
it turns brown. And then you come back with the
sedge hammer, which all all of our locations carry it.
We sell it in a little uh I'll say a
single use package. It's a package that covers one gallon
(34:27):
of water or a thousand square feet gets you pretty far.
And then uh, usually so say you spray, say we
say it sprayed today with no rain and it dries.
Usually you'll see it start to brown out and die
out within like five days something like that.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Okay, and then this.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Will be kind of like a recurring thing. Uh Yeah, yeah,
because because of what will happen is and you see
it more when it's dry where the plant hardens off.
But as it sprouts up again, you just got to
spray it again and again and eventually you'll get rid
of it. So it just takes a while because they
(35:06):
they have a little storage peanut in the ground.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah no, and.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, no, I'm with you. I'm with you. That is
one of my least favorite plants to have to deal with.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
So yeah, all right, all right, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You're welcome. Take care, But we're going to I guess
jump back to whatever we were talking about. When we're
talking about Jessica.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
We were talking about the bugs.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so let's talk about the bug some more.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So talked about how we had some we got caterpillar activity,
mealy bugs, spider minds all that. One thing we've got
going on right now, which we don't really see the
effects until it's a little too late, is called it's
a flea beetle. Real neat little bug loves hydranges, you know,
(36:00):
at hydrangees ita azaleas, but it's a redheaded flea beetle.
I got to go to the what was it the
Horticulture Field Day at the Hammond Research Station last Friday.
Always I never get to go, and I mean this
is like this second time in ten years have been
(36:20):
able to go. And if you've never been out there,
it is a delight. I mean you see things you
wouldn't think, you know. I mean they're in Hammon, like
northern Hammond, and they've got there's tropicals that it's like this.
Looking at the size of it, it was like, how
(36:41):
old is this plant? They die in the winter, right,
and oh, this plant's like five years old, seven years old,
and it's like, wait, what you know? And they don't
dig them up. I don't even I think they just
mulch them, you know, because they're pretty. They want to
see how well a plant performs in our climate, so
they do very I find they probably do very little too,
(37:03):
you know, like they don't build a house over this stuff,
you know, that kind of thing. So, but one of
the professors that was there that was doing a and
we had gone out, I mean I saw the Ta
camellia grew, the Ta Kamelia experiment all that. But one
of the professors that had come out, he actually went
(37:25):
to all of our locations at Sea ed for Clegg's
looking for the flea beetle all right, and I thought
I did pretty good. They found two samples at Segan,
so I was like, oh, that's pretty good. And then
as soon as they left, I went out and treated it,
you know, because I was like, if it's just two
samples out of you know, a thousand plants, that's pretty good,
(37:48):
you know. Unfortunately, they took pictures for the pamphlet, so
I was like, you know, so I was we're going,
we're talking about flea beetles and stuff, and they're like, yeah,
if you can see these pictures with the limelight hydranges,
I was like, man, these are from my store. I
was like, we only had two samples. Though you found
(38:09):
you know, it wasn't that bad. So, but that's a
bug you don't really see too often. Like it's a
small little beetle, and you really won't notice the effects
of it until the leaf has been eaten, like probably
sixty percent.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
So they eat the lea.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, so they eat holes in the leaf and it
looks almost like to say you had like anthracnose stamit
like a fungal spot damage. And then the sun kind
of burns out, burns holes in the leaf. It kind
of looks like that. And usually, you know, depending on
the plant, I'll tell you whether or not it's that,
(38:46):
whether it's flea beetles or the anthracnose, but this time
of year it's usually flea beetles. And I love my
panicle hydranges. That's like your limelight's fan to the series.
All those they're really neat, but that's the one thing
they rip. It's the one bug that really gets on those.
(39:07):
And honestly, for control, just an eight or permethron, any
pyrethroid will kill them. But you want to typically want
to have something that sits on the leaf a little
bit just so you can go ahead and get it.
But it looks like we only have just a less
than a minute to talk, so that's quick. So as always,
(39:33):
thank you Jessica for joining me. Thanks thank you for
all the callers. And hopefully, depending on the rain, people
can get out in the weather. So if y'all have had
any more calls or questions, I'll be at the seacing
location all day and tomorrow and probably than the next day,
so you'll can come find us out at the nursery
(39:54):
y'all have a good one, take care.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Where's the
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lon and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, Lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, call four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WJBO One and
Garden Show. My name's Sae Mercer joined here with Jessica Foysi.
How's it going.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's going good?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Dup pronouncer, Right, yeah, awesome, awesome, all right, things are
going great this morning. You know, it's it's nice and
cool today. It's pretty pretty nice overcast whether you know,
I almost want to go garden, except I have to
go to work, so uh but you know, if y'all
any calls, questions or concerned, y'all could reach us at
four nine nine w JBO. That's four nine nine nine
(00:56):
five two six. And we also have a podcast you
listen to us on. It's the iHeart Radio station website.
I think that's right, Jeremy, it's our free iHeart oh
free iHeart radio. See I forget about free. Never sounded
so good, I know so but we got a lot
of stuff to talk about today, even though it's so
(01:16):
hot outside. Normally I wanted to start the day talking
about weed control. With all this wonderful rain we've been having,
we've got a lot of weeds popping up in the
lawn and the flower bed. I mean, I was pulling
out the driveway today and I just see alligator weed
popping up all up in my Saint Augustine, which is nice.
(01:40):
It kind of blends until there's no more Saint Augustine
because the because it chokes everything out. So but you know,
we've got that popping up right now. This is usually
the time of the year. That's like your kalinga, your
chamber better. That's all very active. And then I've had
a ton of calls lately about torpedo grass, which is
(02:03):
probably the bait of my existence. Not to go off
on a tangent, but like almost did not buy my
house because of torpedo grass in my back in the backyard,
Like I almost just walked away, Like I mean, I
had to have my boss tell me that I was
crazy to walk away from a house just because it
had torpedo grass in the backyard. But you know, that's
(02:26):
just how I mean, that's how it goes. It's little
things like that that I'm just like, I don't know
if I want to deal with that. So uh, but
you know, there's a lot of things we can put
out right now to take care of all those things
we've got for chamber better and really just general weed control.
We want to make sure we have a pre emergent out,
(02:48):
So like for chamber better, that's going to be a
different product than say most of your other grassy weeds
and broad leaf. So that's typically gonna be your gallery
which is a broad leaf. Weed control covers a lot
of broad leaves, but the biggest thing that covers is
that chamber bitter, which if you don't know what chamber
(03:08):
bitter is, that's going to be it looks like a
little mimosa plant with a little bit of I mean, honestly,
there'll be two inches at the ground and they're putting
on seeds already, and no seeds drop every time you
pull the weed pull them. Yeah, So it's just I mean,
it's kind of a constant little battle. So we want
to typically want to try and put those pre emergence
out earlier in the year to give us the longest control.
(03:32):
But if you haven't done that, you should go ahead
and just go ahead and get it in because they'll
just keep on seeding and seeding until the first frost.
So but you know, we got that the alligator weed.
That's a little bit different. Beast cooler weather. You can
use like your weed free zone or anything with two
four D to really not get back well, but right
(03:56):
now we want to use like your Celsius MM doesn't
really hit it well. Celsius is the only one on
the market that I kind of find gets good control
on it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
What does that one look like?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So the alligator weed, the leaf looks like Saint Augustine,
all right, but it's got it's more fleshy, kind of
like a succulent look to it, all right, So a
thicker leaf, all right, puts on like a little whitish flower.
But the flower is not super noticeable like it it's
(04:32):
so small. It opens up and it kind of burns
out quick, but it'll just kind of spread. You'll see
it pop up. It'll just be like a little leaflet.
And then depending on the amount of rainfall we're getting
or irrig if it's in irrigation, it'll just turn from
a leaflet into an actual clump and the like. It's
usually about a week week and a half. It's a
(04:53):
pretty quickly actively growing weed. So and you know, normally,
if I don't see it, I don't have weeds, you know,
But usually about this time of year, that's when it
really starts to explode, just because we've got ideal hot
temperatures and this is on average usually or I'll say
(05:13):
a rainy season, whereas we typically get a little bit
more rainfall. So but got that going on in the yard,
and you can still spray. We can spray most products.
There's a few products we can't spray. But like you're
like I was talking about, the Celsius works great. There's
also a nuts edge control that has some activity on
(05:37):
some of the weeds we've talked about. Big thing is
it takes care of like your sedges, your kolingo, that
kind of stuff, which that also is just heavily actively
growing right now. It's the one downside. I was talking
to a customer the other day about it's the one
downside of not being in a drought, because when you're
(05:58):
when we're in a drought, the weeds typically aren't growing
as much, so it's easier to kind of get them
under control then. Yeah, but once it's once it's raining time,
then everything's just like actively growing all the time, all
the time. So uh, but we've got that going on.
And again, if anyone wants to call, because I mean
(06:20):
I love hearing myself talk all right, but if anyone
wants to call, I had any questions concerns, you could
reach us at four nine nine w JBO. That's four
nine six, so, uh, you know, and if no one's
gonna call Jessica, I mean, well as we'll just talk
about you know whatever. So but you know, we've got
(06:42):
a few more minutes till the next segment, so I
want to just kind of touch up. Got a few
things still available, like perennials that we don't get typically
very often. We've got plenty of the Siam ginger, which
I've talked about it on the radio, for a ginger
that originates from like Thailand, Cambodia area. And it's just
(07:07):
a hearty perennial ground ginger. You plant it in the ground,
I mean you can put it in pots. It's really nice.
It's like an add on feature for like a featured pot.
But the typically the last ginger to actually leaf out
after frost, so you won't see them leaf out until
(07:27):
kind of i'd say middle spring. The middle of spring,
you'll see them start to pop up. But then they'll
bloom pretty quickly, and so it's a heavy blooming. I mean,
I've got the dark pink at the house and they're
just full of flowers. And they hold the flowers usually
five days something like that, about about a week and
(07:48):
then you can go cut the stock and it'll send
up another stalk. But that's a neat little plant that
we typically only carry this time of year. You don't
see them too often unless it's like some overflow from
the previous year. We won't see them available like say
in the winter kind of thing. Well, and I went
(08:10):
to the gala, what was that like a month ago,
the ln LA Gala. So it's just a essentially it's
just a fundraiser for the Landscaper Association. It's a really neat,
neat little thing Louisiana does. And one of the nurseries
that was all their auction they're silent auction items, was
(08:32):
just like twenty different varieties of them. And I mean
this happens with any plant, you know, Like I mean
day lilies, there'll be ten thousand different varieties. Yeah, but
it just always kind of blows me away. It's like,
but they can make out of it well that it's
just I mean, she had twenty different varieties on there,
and I was like, man, I only knew about three
of them. Yeah, I just assume you know, she's and
(08:54):
so she's showing me like this one's the striation on
the leaf is different than this one, you know, and
all that, and it's just a I mean, it's a
neat little plant.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah. So are they It's not a bulb, is.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It, uh yes? Or rhizome. Yeah. I think it's a rhizome.
I always mix them up, but they uh, you know,
you just plant it in the ground, cut it back
in the frost comes back every year.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Uh spread out yep.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, they spread us. I would say there's slower compared
to some of the other gingers, like the purple one
I have, which I planted these. This will be the
second year I've had them in the ground or the
second winter. Yeah, they'll get I mean they're probably i'd
say twelve inches wide.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And they made it through the snow.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, perfect. And in fact I didn't even hardly
mulch that side, so I didn't think they were going
to come back because I've forgot to mulch it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But they all pop down really nice. They get i'd
say twenty inches on average, not counting the bloom spike.
Some of them get a little taller, some of them
are a little shorter. But they're a neat little perennial
that can tolerate I actually tolerate more sun than shade,
so like I have them in the shade. They do phenomenal,
(10:14):
just like all gingers. But the I mean there's some
planted down the street from me, a guy planted by
his mailbox. They're in full sun all day, no irrigation
unless he walks out and puts a water and can
on them, you know, but they just kind of bloom
and hang out. Then you cut them back in the winter,
mulch over him, and then come back the next year.
(10:37):
So uh. And we also have we got in with
that load of those Siam ginger. We got in a
neat perennial hibiscus or rose mallow. It's the I believe
it's called summer carnival. And it's a variegated leaf kind
of that what would you call that color on that flower,
(11:00):
like a like a rose, yeah, yeah, a rose red. Yeah,
And that's a neat little plant too. Comes back every
year you get the flower. The flower is probably open
for a day. You get about a day out of
each flower, but as one finishes, the next one pops out.
(11:21):
So it's kind of of a just a rebloomer. They
just like all hibiscuits, they get you know, a fi's
white flies, all that good stuff, which we can't really
avoid that. But it's just a I mean, a neat
little perennial that you just pop in. Like I've got
some planted in the in my pollinator bed that I
(11:44):
just I hack it back to the ground every year
and then it pops out through my I've got a
bunch of cone flower in that area. So it's just
I select the stalk when it comes out.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And you cut it all the way down.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, I just cut it. It's usually like four
in which is really I'll leave a little bit of
the cane just so I can kind of see where
it is. So but anyway, so if any calls, questions
or concerns, please call it four nine two six. I
can add some other questions to my list, so we
(12:18):
don't have to talk about my list on the radio. No, uh,
which I mean we we prepare an extra list just
in case we don't get any callers. But please call,
please call.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Uh. So I wanted to go ahead this segment kind
of touch up on insect control because that is something. Look,
we got a caller, come, yeah, so let's talk about
insect control. He takes the phone call. We just have
to throw the phone number out enough, that's all. So
talking about insect control because as well as we control
(12:53):
and uh, for this time of year, insects have been
kind of horrendous. Yeah, I mean we've got flea beetles out,
lace bugs, white flies, all all the heavy hitters, all right,
you know. And so we're gonna go ahead, and I
(13:15):
guess he's already man, got two callers exciting. But I'm
just gonna touch up on this just for a second
and then we'll jump to Dale in Central. So he's
not holding too long. So right now, we got all
these insects coming out. So I just want to kind
of take a point to mention it behooves us to
(13:38):
take a tour of our flower beds periodically before, so
that we can keep pests under under.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Control, you know, to monitor.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, So, like I've got milk weed that it's on
my list to cut back, all right, But I'm not
going to touch that until it gets really bad, because
you know, I'm trying to get some caterpillars on there.
I don't. I don't think they're going to happen this year.
I think it's kind of a wash. But I as
long as my ef it's stay on my milk weeed,
(14:12):
that's fine, you know. But when I start to have
generations expand, right, all right, that's when we really want
to start looking at treating and everything. And milk weed's
a special case. I just don't spray it. So as
long as I can keep the ef it's on there,
I'm good. You know. Now your flea, beetles, your caterpillars,
that's gonna be something a little different. So but we'll
(14:35):
jump back to this topic and a few Let's go
ahead and jump to Dale in Central Dale. How's it
going doing all right, y'all? Oh, not too bad. I'm
enjoying this kind of cool weather, you know, before it
gets hut. Yeah, so what's going on.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I have some Brussels sprouts and cabbage that I started. Actually,
it'll be two weeks ago tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Hmm.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
They're already sprouted, they're already starting to their first set
of true leaves are coming out. I was wondering if
it was safe to go ahead and start with like
a little low dose water soluble fertilizer for them.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, for sure, if you've got the true if the
true leaves have popped out, you're good to go. H
what kind of fertilizer you use? If you don't mind
me asking?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
H I was thinking because I already have some uh
some of that fertile root stimulator.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Hit it with that. That's not gonna hurt it at all. Uh,
it's not organic, so unless that doesn't matter to you.
I mean I I used to use a root stimulator
on my veggies just to give them a better start. So,
but that would be a good good place to start,
and I might look at I really like Fisher moulsion fertilizer.
(15:54):
It's got a little bit of an odor, but as
long as you're watering and outside, it doesn't really matter.
But yeah, that's just.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
And it's separate from the house, so okay.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, no, the fish emulsions, it's just fast acting nitrogen,
all right. So I would probably look at using that
coming up, like as you get a little bit of
size to the plant.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, okay, all right, Yeah, they're only the.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah. Yeah, Like once they get like i'd say, like
three three four inches somewhere right around there, I would
start using that and you could throw in some root stimulator.
It's not gonna hurt it by any means, right, Uh,
but I would probably use that just to increase your
nutrient or your nitrogen uptake. Okay, all right, because just
(16:46):
just in general, all your vegetables are heavy, heavy feeders
on average, and the key ingredient they're gonna need is
that nitrogen. So everything else is usually utally got some
phosphorus and some potassium in the soil. Like that's kind
that fleeds out much slower than your nitrogen does.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I definitely, uh, because I got some ocra growing right now.
They're probably about two foot tall, and I supplement every
two weeks with some calcium nitrate.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah no, that's perfect for him. You got any you
got any fruit off the okre yet?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I've got some growing. Okay, they're probably about an inch
long right now.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, my mom. The only reason I asked. My mom
talked to me the other day when I was at
the pool and she was all excited because she started
picking some.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, it shouldn't be much longer. I should be able
to start picking some off of mine.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah. So that's one plant. Like, my wife's not real
big into it, and then my kids are picky. But
that is. I mean, you could get like three four
plants of okra and you'll have you got okra for
like two years. So I got it.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I got quite a few more than that. I think
I have maybe fifteen nice.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Nice. Oh cool, Well, it sounds like you're pretty set up.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I appreciate it, all right, have a.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Good one, Dale, That was a good one. Was. I
gonna go in and jump to Rick and Benton Rouge? Rick,
how are you today?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Hey? Hope hopefully better after y'all tell me what to do. Yes, sir,
I've got two issues with you talking about weeds. I've
got a tall grass going in a couple of my guards.
You don't see it until it gets over the four
feet tall above these alias. Let's say and what I
did was I put a vinyl glove on a cloth
glove and dip my fingers and round up and wipe
(18:45):
it on the leaves as much as I can get
on it. Yeah, it's dying, but I don't Is that
going to get back all the way down to the root?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, it should like the if you used round up?
Did you use like the old formulation or the new one?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Uh, it's a I just bought recently. Okay, it's not
the stuff that kills it instantly.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Okay. Well, the reason I was asking is because like
one of them, like the old formulation, is glyphosate, and
so that that product is typically better at killing grassy
weeds down to the root. The new formulation of round
up the main it's it's a burning agent mixed with
(19:27):
a root killer. But the root killer is not a
typically as effective on grasses.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So what I'm got here, I just got to contain
on it. So it's a bio advanced weading grass killer.
It's eleven point.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, yep, you're good.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, Okay. I've also got which was bought this house
in the eighties. A lady told us to put this
ardija into our ground covered a couple of spots. Huh,
I'm still trying to kill it. Yeah, Ardisa the glove
with the round up and wipe it on it, and
it's getting brown on the edge, but it's not really dying.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah. Uh. Ardisia is kind of tough. I would try
to so you could. What I've done before is you
can actually is it by itself? Is it pretty isolated?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's in one section of the garden, but it's all
the roots are growing underneath the hawthorns and the ranges
and stuff like that, and you can't get the roots out.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah. Uh So one option would be to us I've
done this before. I've I've hit it with a weed eater,
all right, this is the way.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I can't get in there.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You can't get in there with.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
The glove of white, but I can't even spray round
up on it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, So the I would just try and you could
try and pull some out if you can.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Try to loose it up, get the roots.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah. And it sounds like anything, yeah, anything under like
the Indian hawthorns, anything kind of with coverage. You're probably
gonna have to just try and be as thorough as
you can and hand.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Pull multiple treatments with the round yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Multiple treatments with the roundup.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, but I'm seventy years old. It's not easy to
get down there anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, I'm thirty five, and it ain't easy to get
down there.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I got a milkake to so I don't have to
get down on the ground.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Really. Yeah, my mom, Yeah, I was it. My mom
guilted me into doing some stuff the other day at
the in the yard and I felt like I was
showing my age because I groaned a little bit getting up.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So get up down yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, sir, so, yeah, I was just trying. The roundup
should work on the rdesia. It's just gonna take. It's
gonna take some multiple treatments kind of deal. You know.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I could hold it on there, but yeah, and I
don't know if they making.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Any easier for you. I've used to paint brush before.
I've actually mixed it in like a little cup and
just used a paint paint brush.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That little gallon bucket. I got to the little cheap
paint brushes that I bought about whole box of them.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I used to do it's just like the
little I think it's like a four inch or five
inch wide. Yeah, and I had the one I had
it was like that kind of uh, it was more
of like a like a foam and you know I'm
talking about like almost like a pond filter.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Matt might have one of those on that too.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I had bet I had best luck with that
when I was using a paint brush.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So I sucked a lot of tools over there. I
probably got to be in there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yes, sir, all right, Rick, any other questions I can
help you with?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
All good to go up.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Thanks, all right, have a good one. So uh before
we get back to uh insect control, because I want
to finish up on that real quick. If anyone had
any more calls, questions, or concernings, you can reach us
at four nine nine nine five two six. That's four
nine nine nine five six. Also have that free iHeart
podcast you know that are wonderful producer always tells us about.
(23:03):
But you know, let's jump to insect control because I
want to go ahead and use most of this segment
for the Planet of the Week. So we were talking
about how we had, you know, a bunch of insects
coming out. There's caterpillars, a lot of other things, and
I you know, I use every tool in my tool shit,
(23:23):
you know, but I'm not going to necessarily bring out
the flamethrower. And this is metaphorical, all right. You know,
if I see some caterpillars, for instance, like I've got
a Gordlinia tree in the in the yard, some dagger
moth caterpillars we're feeding on it, and you know, I
(23:45):
can't have them eating that plant to the ground because
it's a pretty it's a slower growing tree. So you know,
I mean I have insect hell like I have. I
use eight I use triple action, all that stuff. For that,
I just used a host. You know. Sometimes the I
(24:06):
don't want to say the lazier way, but the you know,
I don't want to go out and typically spray unless
it's a bad enough infestation. You know. Now, granted, if
I get if I find mealy books, I'm gonna go
clip out the infestate, like the majority of the infestation,
and then I'll spray the plant just to be sure,
(24:26):
you know. But it's sometimes the easier, softer way is
the better way. Like for spider mites, for instance, I
was reading a post on I'm a member of the
house plant Facebook page. Whether or not that's a good
thing or a bad thing, I don't know. But somebody
I know was talking about Alocasia how she's done with
(24:48):
that Alocasia lutia because it has spider mites, and I
forgot to actually message her. But it's like, I've had
really good luck just washing the leaves occasionally, you.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Know, just keeping it under control.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, just keeping it under control. Like obviously, like you know,
a drier leaf right is going to attract them more.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, they like the dry yeah hot, But.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like so like I mean, I have misters. I keep
all my house plants during the growing season outside so
that they look big and luxurious from the fall when
I want people to come over. So they're like, what
did you do? And it's you know, I put it outside,
I put some Osma cot fertilizer on it, and then
you know, I just make sure the bugs stay off it.
(25:36):
So but I've been using misters to essentially wash the
leaves periodically, you know, where it's just I mean, and
that helps keep my populations under control because I do
a lot of philodendrons, and they're pretty much the same
as allocations where they'll just get mites because it's a
good they have good coverage, like their leaves are typically,
(26:01):
so it's just good coverage to protect the plant, to
protect the insect.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well, I mean I found a wasp nest the other
day because I was just like, oh, they got a
whole wasp nest underneath one of these leaves, you know,
And then my neighbor walked over to compliment me on
my flower bed and stuff and distracted me. Then I
got stung, you know. But it's it's just plants typically
those broader leaves, and this is just I mean those
(26:29):
gingers we talked about earlier, Like there's some varieties of
gingers that have big, broad leaves, and I mean usually
you can count on the rainfall to wash the leaves.
But if we're going in between rainfalls, typically your irrigation
system or you're handwatering, you're not going to wash the leaves.
(26:50):
And I'm not saying you have to do that every
single time you water, but like you know, once a week,
you know, once every two weeks even, just go out
and if you wash the backside of the leaf, that's
where the mites will typically be, and that's just how
you keep them under control because once they once they've
been on the plant for a while, just in general,
(27:12):
and they've been feeding on the plant, it starts to
look kind of speckled, h sickly, and it honestly uh
aphid dam or not aphid sorry, uh, spider man damage
and say lacebug damage are pretty similar to each other,
you know. They they essentially sucked some of the corephill out,
(27:35):
causing this like almost like peppered look to the leaf,
not typically appealing. And once it, once it's done that,
you might as well just cut the leaf off because
it's not gonna it's not gonna green up again, and
it's better to just let the plant spend energy on
producing a new leaf versus keeping an old leaf. So right,
(27:57):
let's go ahead and jump the plane of the week
real quick, I guess. Yeah. So our plan of the
week today is the sure Venca. And so that's a neat,
little patented fridy of inca that's been on the market
for a few years now. Full sun. Don't ever plant
it in shade because if it stays too moist. Venca
(28:18):
in general, we'll just we'll just kind of croak. Yeah,
but it uh, you know, it's been on the market
a while now. I think I started seeing it probably
seven eight years ago. It's probably there longer than that.
I just, uh, it was oblivious to it. Yeah, but
I mean there's semi there's semi trailing. I wouldn't say
(28:38):
they're true trailing. Yeah, it's almost like a compact grower.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
They're more mounting that they do. Yeah, like kind of
yeah go over there.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Over the sides of potts, not to the point where
like the cascade venca will like hang on the ground.
But it's just it's a very tight plant mounting plant.
They come in a few colors. There's your purple, your pink,
there's a white with a polka dot. Like, there's a
couple of other ones, but you don't see them too
too often in.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
A darker purple.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but they I find they tend to show color
better than your other venka. The other venka, you get
a bigger flower, right, I mean, I mean it is
it's like ten times the size of the the swar
a flower. But the swore a puts on so many
flowers in a mass planting. I mean you'll see that
(29:32):
way more than you'll see your venka typically, And it
I like it more because it's a it's a small leaf,
all right, so you really just see the flowers when
they're in bloom. Yeah, and uh, most of your regular
vinka varieties, those are gonna get kind of tall. So
using that as like a border plant, so say it's
(29:55):
a border of your your color bed or like your
front section. All right, the sarre is typically gonna look
a little bit cleaner. This is gonna stay tighter, and
so really like those, we carry them all year, typically
during the growing sea during the hotter months, and we'll
(30:15):
get them in like a four and a half inch pot.
And Color Division does these really nice little planter pots,
which's just like a new little add on to your yard. Yeah,
and so they typically performed pretty well during our wetter months.
You just want to make sure that bed dreams well,
like you don't want to put them in a sopping
(30:36):
like a soaking wet area. So but real neat plant
is super cute and it's just a cool little alternative
to your regular old venka that people have been buying for,
you know, fifty years. So but we're gonna have to
jump because we got another caller, Jessica, So very exciting
it's gonna be Sue and Hammond. Sue, how can we
(30:58):
help you today?
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I have a question about nut segees, ma'am. I've had
gotten some in my front bed and we thought it
would be a good idea to put some really heavy
landscape fabric on it and then put rocks on top
of it. It hadn't been it's just growing underneath.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But yeah, I don't know to it'll just yeah, it'll
just punch through that. And I'm yeah, I'm typically iffy
on the like the rock stuff rock as a flower
bed mulch anyway, because it kind of cooks the area,
so it can cook your it can cook your plants.
(31:37):
So she got to be careful with that. Uh so,
you know, and it's just, i mean, different thought processes
with it. But the best.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
Thing I have regular plants in there. That's what I'm
worried about. I don't want to kill what's in there.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. And the fabric, I mean
a lot of people have started getting away from using
the fabric just because because it kind of suffocates the well,
it'll suffocate the plant because it doesn't allow air or
like gas transfer from the soil, so that might be
(32:15):
something to look at in the future, you know. But
the for the nuts edge, i'd recommend using. There's a
and is it the tall nuts edge? Yeah? Okay, so
that that product i'd recommend is called sedge Hammer. So
that's been on the market forever. It's pretty much an
over the top spray. There's a few things you want
(32:38):
to be careful spraying it around, like say roses, all right,
but on on average, you can pretty much spray that
anywhere and it just kills nutsedge. So that would be
the product to use. And what I typically recommend is
you never want the sedge to go to seed, right,
(32:59):
So either's spray, yeah yeah, no, And I'm with you.
So if you can go in and either you pull
it and you wait till it comes up again, or
or what I used to do when I was a
contractor was a cut it. I would just tip it
to like four inches tall and then spray that because
you've got to have you got to have foliage for
(33:21):
the product to absorb. And then but then by cutting it,
you're preventing it from going to seed and spreading elsewhere. Okay,
And also it doesn't stand out too much to the homeowner.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because when I try to pull it, it
just basically bracs. It'd probably better to cut.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It or yeah. Well and like especially since you got
the tarp down and the rock and everything, it's just
going to make it even harder for you to actually
pull it and kind of follow the runner.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
So yeah, and they're like stacked on top of you know,
there's probably ten white things and they like a stack
on top of each other.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Yeah around the found days and I'm it's awful.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So I would, I would. What I would do is
just get a pair of clippers first, cut everything to
about four inches so it doesn't really stand out when
it turns brown. And then you come back with the
sedge hammer, which all all of our locations carry it.
We sell it in a little uh I'll say a
single use package. It's a package that covers one gallon
(34:27):
of water or a thousand square feet gets you pretty far.
And then uh, usually so say you spray, say we
say it sprayed today with no rain and it dries.
Usually you'll see it start to brown out and die
out within like five days something like that.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Okay, and then this.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Will be kind of like a recurring thing. Uh Yeah, yeah,
because because of what will happen is and you see
it more when it's dry where the plant hardens off.
But as it sprouts up again, you just got to
spray it again and again and eventually you'll get rid
of it. So it just takes a while because they
(35:06):
they have a little storage peanut in the ground.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah no, and.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, no, I'm with you. I'm with you. That is
one of my least favorite plants to have to deal with.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
So yeah, all right, all right, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You're welcome. Take care, But we're going to I guess
jump back to whatever we were talking about. When we're
talking about Jessica.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
We were talking about the bugs.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so let's talk about the bug some more.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So talked about how we had some we got caterpillar activity,
mealy bugs, spider minds all that. One thing we've got
going on right now, which we don't really see the
effects until it's a little too late, is called it's
a flea beetle. Real neat little bug loves hydranges, you know,
(36:00):
at hydrangees ita azaleas, but it's a redheaded flea beetle.
I got to go to the what was it the
Horticulture Field Day at the Hammond Research Station last Friday.
Always I never get to go, and I mean this
is like this second time in ten years have been
(36:20):
able to go. And if you've never been out there,
it is a delight. I mean you see things you
wouldn't think, you know. I mean they're in Hammon, like
northern Hammond, and they've got there's tropicals that it's like this.
Looking at the size of it, it was like, how
(36:41):
old is this plant? They die in the winter, right,
and oh, this plant's like five years old, seven years old,
and it's like, wait, what you know? And they don't
dig them up. I don't even I think they just
mulch them, you know, because they're pretty. They want to
see how well a plant performs in our climate, so
they do very I find they probably do very little too,
(37:03):
you know, like they don't build a house over this stuff,
you know, that kind of thing. So, but one of
the professors that was there that was doing a and
we had gone out, I mean I saw the Ta
camellia grew, the Ta Kamelia experiment all that. But one
of the professors that had come out, he actually went
(37:25):
to all of our locations at Sea ed for Clegg's
looking for the flea beetle all right, and I thought
I did pretty good. They found two samples at Segan,
so I was like, oh, that's pretty good. And then
as soon as they left, I went out and treated it,
you know, because I was like, if it's just two
samples out of you know, a thousand plants, that's pretty good,
(37:48):
you know. Unfortunately, they took pictures for the pamphlet, so
I was like, you know, so I was we're going,
we're talking about flea beetles and stuff, and they're like, yeah,
if you can see these pictures with the limelight hydranges,
I was like, man, these are from my store. I
was like, we only had two samples. Though you found
(38:09):
you know, it wasn't that bad. So, but that's a
bug you don't really see too often. Like it's a
small little beetle, and you really won't notice the effects
of it until the leaf has been eaten, like probably
sixty percent.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
So they eat the lea.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, so they eat holes in the leaf and it
looks almost like to say you had like anthracnose stamit
like a fungal spot damage. And then the sun kind
of burns out, burns holes in the leaf. It kind
of looks like that. And usually, you know, depending on
the plant, I'll tell you whether or not it's that,
(38:46):
whether it's flea beetles or the anthracnose, but this time
of year it's usually flea beetles. And I love my
panicle hydranges. That's like your limelight's fan to the series.
All those they're really neat, but that's the one thing
they rip. It's the one bug that really gets on those.
(39:07):
And honestly, for control, just an eight or permethron, any
pyrethroid will kill them. But you want to typically want
to have something that sits on the leaf a little
bit just so you can go ahead and get it.
But it looks like we only have just a less
than a minute to talk, so that's quick. So as always,
(39:33):
thank you Jessica for joining me. Thanks thank you for
all the callers. And hopefully, depending on the rain, people
can get out in the weather. So if y'all have had
any more calls or questions, I'll be at the seacing
location all day and tomorrow and probably than the next day,
so you'll can come find us out at the nursery
(39:54):
y'all have a good one, take care.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
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