September 27, 2025 • 42 mins
Let's talk about what you should not be doing as the seasons change this week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show with Butch, Chris and our new Intern from Clegg's Nursery!
As the temperatures (slowly) change - what's the next steps you should and should not be taking for your lawns and gardens? There's also a good look at how helpful micro-irrigation can be for plants that are already dealing with the stress of our warmest months. And suggestions about what you can pick up to plant now and how to decide on a shade tree for your home!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
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As the temperatures (slowly) change - what's the next steps you should and should not be taking for your lawns and gardens? There's also a good look at how helpful micro-irrigation can be for plants that are already dealing with the stress of our warmest months. And suggestions about what you can pick up to plant now and how to decide on a shade tree for your home!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am by calling (225) 499-9526 - that's 499-WJBO! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, you can also leave us a message by tapping the red Talkback Mic button!
Don't forget to make sure you've updated to the latest version of the iHeartRadio app so you can make WJBO Newsradio 1150 AM & 98.7 FM your #1 preset, just like in your car! You can also make the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show podcast a preset too! And now, presets work on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto too!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
Garden Show, brought to you by Cleg's Nursery. If you
have a question about seasonal planting, lon and garden concerns
or questions about landscaping, call four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine two six.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning, Baton Rouge, and welcome to News Radio eleven
fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. My name is Butch Drews.
With me is Chris Herman, and we are very pleased
to have one of the smartest people I know in
the world with us today. Good morning, Caroline, Good morning. Anyway,
if you want to get involved in our show, you
can give us a call at four nine five two
(00:44):
six sets four nine nine WJBO. A lot going on.
Actually went to pick up the intern in training and
there was a lot of people out jogging, walking dogs.
Kind of a beautiful morning out there to get out.
I know there's something going on this afternoon that people
might want to be near their TVs for, but can't
I can't think of what. I can't either, but I'm
(01:05):
sure somebody could let us know. So anyway, if you
do have some questions. Get out in your yard, walk
around with your favorite morning beverage. Give us a call
for nine nine nine five two sixcess four nine nine WJBL.
Good morning, Caroline. Do you have any questions for us?
Real quick?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Mister Chris. Do you have to work with mister Butch.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Do I have to? Unfortunately, yes I do?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I feel sorry?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh? On God?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Anyway, Now, he's a pleasure to work for, very very intelligent.
Knows his plant material and his horticulture, and I've learned
a lot from him.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The checks in the mail. Let's say, what was that
green thing I just saw? Pat, This isn't TV. Nobody
saw that it was a check. It's not good any good,
you know. But no, anyway, Chris, we were talking before
the show started. Uh, I know, Clegg's got in your
pumpkins and all your fall decorating fun.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
We got in a load of pumpkins. In fact, we
have another one on the way. We have pumpkins, haybales,
corn stalks.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
New this year. We have wheat bundles.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Look like little bitty corn stalks eighteen inches tall.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I tell you what I went by there yesterday actually,
and the improvement that has been made in the way
y'all are displaying the pumpkins is just I love the breezeway.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
So we put a cover on top of our breezeway,
which was our initial intent. But it's okay, but we
didn't just it's not metal. It's actually a shaded or
a tinted vinyl. I guess, okay, So it's bright, but
the hot sun isn't on it, and it also keeps
(02:44):
the rain off of it. So we now have our
pumpkins running all down that breezeway.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So it's very good. It just it's so organized and
looks so you know, it just really stands out and
makes you want to buy a pumpkin.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
It looks like fall, even though it doesn't feel like it,
it looks like fall. You're right about that, uh fo
two six sets, four nine nine. WJBO will give you
put Smack Dab on top of our list if you'd
like to give us a call. Caroline, do you have
a question what should I.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Do to my plants? My plants now that it is
getting colder?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, first off, I wish it was getting colder, But
now I'm going to change up that question just a
little bit. I'm going to say what shouldn't we be
doing to our plants? And Chris, if you disagree, please
let me know. I think the main thing is we
want except for annuals vegetables that you're planning right now,
(03:36):
I don't want to fertilize correct nothing with a high nitrogen.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
We do have winter rizer, and most people think winter
risers for your lawns, just for your lawns, but you
can use that on your shrubs and it's got a
low nitrogen. But you don't want to put high nitrogen
where you kick out new growth because if you do
have that new growth, if we do have a frost
or freeze, it'll damage that it's going to be damaged.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And I agree completely with what you just said, and
especially if you have a new landscape. If you put
in a landscape this last spring, sometime during the summer,
those plants are still getting established. Wind ariser I hate
the name win arisers. Anybody that has ever listened to
the show understands it helps with root developments. So if
(04:22):
you're going to help those new plants set out better
root systems, so next are going to have a much
stronger plant to withstand. If we have a drought situation.
They're just the heat stress of a plant out in
the landscape, and it is an excellent product to put
on your lawn every year because our grass is probably
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the most stressed plant in our landscape due to weather.
Because a grass root system, what would you say, Chris,
inch inch and a half into the soil, probably probably
you know. So if we get into a drought situation
and we don't water, that it's going to be stressed.
So let's get that. Let's give it the energy to
regenerate itself, so next spring your lawn can be as
(05:07):
healthy as possible going into a situation where it may
likely be damaged. The other thing, Caroline, that I would
say I wouldn't do right now is any heavy pruning
because the same reason if we don't want to fertilize,
anytime you prune a plant, you're going to stimulate new growth.
(05:30):
So if we have a lot of tender new growth
on a plant, that very likely can be burnt off
by a hard freeze. Even sometimes a gentle frosting can
damage a lot of new growth. So what we're saying
is we're not I wish we were getting closer to
having to protect our plants, you know, with covers and
(05:51):
things like that. But what we're looking at right now
is more what we don't want to do to our
plants going into co weather.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, I wanted to go back to what we were
talking about about fertilizing or not fertilizing your lawn and
your shrubs. We've had several customers come in asking, oh,
my plants look bad.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
What can I do to fix them?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Unfortunately, like you just said, the stress of being ninety
plus degrees for weeks on end and not much rain.
I mean, I was about saying the drought, but unfortunately
you can't. You just have to let the plant recover.
You can't really force them to recover this time of
the year.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, it's you know, I hate to use a human example,
but you have a person in I see you at
the hospital. You're not stuffing steak and potatoes down. No,
you know, you're you're giving them a liquid diet whatever
until they recover enough til you can give them the steak.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
You're also letting them rest, is what the plants. The
plants are naturally going to go dormant. Confused right now
because it's ninety degrees, but the day the amount of
daylight during the day. The days are getting shorter, and
that's another signal. Yeah, and that's another signal. Yeah, I
get to work and it's dark.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Did you have something to say? No, Okay, that's fine.
I just thought maybe you did, But no, it was
a very good point. We don't want Drought can cause
a forced dormancy, and a lot of our plant material
right now are getting to the point where they're in
a forced dormancy. I am a little bit concerned with
(07:21):
the way the weather is right now about our sussanquin
chameleon blooms. You know, most of them are set, but
are they going to be able to fully open or
are they going to start dropping some of those buds
because plants that auring stressed, you know a lot of
times will drop flowers or not open them fully. So
good segue if you want to take it, Chris, is
(07:41):
what can they do about the drought situation? Water? Ah?
But what would be the easiest way to water, say
a large flower bed and the most efficient way? I
should say, maybe micro irrigation help you out.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I use an oscillating sprinkler, but yes, a micro irrigation system.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okay, you're putting the water where you need it. Right,
Let's go back to the oscillating sprinkler, which is a
you know that there's nothing wrong with that, but what
do you run it? Three four minutes? Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
No, I run it forty five minutes to an hour
right now at a nursery right now.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Is that about what each I'm running.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I'm actually running twice, so it's probably about forty five
minutes to an hour each section.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, And you run that in the evening right after
y'all close and leave, and then in the morning.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I try and put it as late as I can,
and it ends when I usually arrive at work.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Depends on how long I have to run it for.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
If we're hot and dry, like in August, I may
run it from when we open, I mean when we closed,
when we open. Okay, Now we do the cardinal sin
and we water at night. We have that's really it's
the only way we can. Otherwise our customers would get
all wet.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And that's one of the things that I'm segueing all
over the place. And we need to get back to
the micro irrigation in a second. But one of the
questions that I used to always get at the nursery
and you get now obviously, is when is the best
time to water? And my answer to that was whenever
you can, meaning if you know, if you don't have
(09:11):
timers and you get home at eight o'clock at night
and that's the only time you can water water, then
the ideal time to water is in the morning, correct,
because it's cooler. When it's cooler, by the evening, any
water on the foliage will have evaporated, so you don't
have moisture sitting on the foliage all night long, which
can create fungal issues. But again, the most important thing
(09:34):
is whenever you can, you know, and that's a nice
thing in today's marketplace. You have these timers that you
can set on your hose and if you're still at work,
you know, if you're at work at three o'clock in
the morning, well it'll go off at six in the
morning for you and run for thirty forty five minutes
whatever it needs to be. But again, if you don't
have the timers and you get home at eight o'clock
(09:56):
at night, go out, set your sprinkler and let it run,
because the water is what's most important.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, I usually tell people if you get from home
home from work and you see your plants wilting water.
I mean, that's not the ideal time, but the plant
needs water, the water, and so it's best of water
in the morning. I guess the sun really doesn't have
to be up yet, but you know when the sun's
coming up, and the sun comes up and it'll burn
off the excess moisture on the foliage, so you don't.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Have that disease problem. And that is one of the
benefits of look at the way, I'm going back into
micro irrigation here. One of the benefits of micro irrigation
is that typically the moisture you're putting out is low
to the ground, so you're not getting it on the foliage.
Then the other thing is with an oscillating sprinkler or
any type of overhead sprinkler, you're especially if you're doing
(10:45):
it during the day, you're losing some of that moisture
to evaporation immediately. Where the micro irrigation, that moisture's going
straight onto the soil. So you're going to get a
much better use of the water you're putting out.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
When I use my oscillating spring because I'm lazy, but
I'm putting the water down.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's right. I water the sidewalk and part of the street,
the house and exactly which you know, Hey, that's the
most important thing you said, is you're watering. Yes, and
but again, come by this nursery. You know, there's several
people there that can help you show you through the
micro irrigation. It is a relatively inexpensive, very very easy
(11:25):
to put together, and so easy.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I can do it years and years ago when I
first did, it's Scott our leader and yes, our fearless leader.
He kind of showed me. I just felt lost. So
I went out to the house and I put this
piece on. I shoved that piece in there and poked
a hole in this. So this is not going to work.
(11:51):
Came back over. I can't really say what.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I can't say on the radio what I said, but
it was like, holy smokes, look at that. Yeah, it's
it is easy. It's very easy. I had a a
very rude I'm gonna be honest, a very rude gentleman
came into when I was still at Naylor's and goes,
I need I need this irrigation system on my plant material.
And I said, well, you know what, is it? And
(12:14):
he said. He says, I need someone to do it.
And I said, well, sir, you really don't. I said,
it's a very simple layout. I can talk you through
it real quick. No, I don't have time. I'm busy.
I'm busy, and you know, whatever, you know, whatever it costs.
And I saw him. I said, okay, fine, I said,
I'll do it for two hundred bucks. And he goes, oh,
that's a great deal. He said what I said, when
(12:35):
can you? And I said, I can com buy tomorrow
at lunch. At lunch, yeah, I said, you know, I
told you it's a very simple setup. You know, you
just have basically a straight line run. And okay, well
it's worth it. You know. Two hundred bucks to me
is nothing, you know. So I went over there and
I put his system in in fifteen minutes and I
got done. I walked up to him and I said,
(12:56):
here's my bill. It was probably about fifty sixty bucks.
I don't remember exactly, a parts plus two hundred. I'm
not paying you two hundred dollars, I said, sir, I
told you how simple it was. And so anyway, he
finally ended up paying me, but he was but the
point is, that's how simple it is. It doesn't take
(13:17):
very long. I did my for some stupid reason, I
talk about all the time, our potted plants on our patio.
We'd set an oscillating and sprinkler. When we went on vacation,
watered the house, rotted out of you know, some lattice work,
the whole thing. And last time we took our vacation
about it. Literally about an hour before y'all closed, I
(13:40):
hopped in the car. I know when you hate coaching.
One of those customers. One of those customers, got everything
I thought I might need, went home. I had it
all put together from when the thought got in my mind.
Fifteen minute drive to Klegs, shopped at Klegs, fifteen minute
ride home. I had it all together in two hours.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Most of our pots on our patio with a little
micro irrigation.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why didn't you tell me about it earlier?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Anyway, we need to Shirley, she came up with the
idea to tell you. In turn in training, Caroline is
with us. Good morning, Caroline. Negotiations broke down with miss
Anna Claire. Yeah, miss Anna Claire is, so I have
to call her miss Ana Claire because wasn't that in
the contract?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It was, but I don't know. We're still working on it,
but there may be a shutdown coming. Actually had a
very actually extremely interesting question during the break that has
got me thinking, and I think I've come up with
a response to the question. I'm going to rephrase it
a little differently than it was asked to us, But
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the efficiency of a micro irrigation system as compared to
an oscillating impulse type sprinkler the biggest thing with micro irrigation,
especially in flower beds with shrubbery. I don't know who
came up with the name for this head they use,
but they call it a shrubler rubler. Yeah, what it
(15:05):
is is that I call it a spider. But it
puts out like eight little streams of water that you
put right at the base of the plant, right at
the root system, right at the root system, so you're
watering the root system of each individual plant in the landscape,
so the water is going where you need it. There's
(15:26):
also if you have expansive bedding plant areas, there are
spray heads that you use there, so they're not as
efficient as a shrubbler. But again, you can't put a
shrubbler right next to each individual bedding plant. We do
have drippers, but that's a whole nother story. We're with
an oscillating sprinkler or an impulse sprinkler. You're watering the
(15:51):
driveway well.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
As I said, the SIDEWI street. I have a little
strip of grass along the street. Then there's a sidewalk, yeah, driveway,
and I have a little trip on the other side
of the driveway, so it's just easier to catch it
with the oscillating sprinkling.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well, and if you're if you're dealing with a grass situation,
you obviously can't use a micro irrigation system for that.
You have to use an impulse sprinkler or an oscillating
sprinkler for that. But anytime you're dealing with flower beds,
you know, in the long run, your micro irrigation is
going to be so much more efficient. You're not putting
water where you don't want it. So that's hopefully the
(16:27):
answer to the question that we had off the air
during the break. Give us called four six sets, four
nine nine w JBO get you put pretty close to
the top of our list. I don't know what's going on,
So Caroline, do you have another question for.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Us, what can I put? What can I plant in
a pot now? For some color?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
So right now we have a good selection, well a
decent selection of your fall plants. We do have some pansies,
snap dragons, dianthus. I'm my finished petunias, although I will
say it is still too hot, as Scott Ricat used
to always say, and I use it quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The pansies that Kleggs is selling right now are sacrificial pansies, yes,
because they are will die. There's several soilt pathogens and
I will get back to your question a minute, Caroline.
There's several soalt pathogens that are very active right now
at our soil temperatures, and they just love the stem
of pansy plants. So but anyway, I would like to suggest,
(17:31):
if you don't mind, Chris, a bubblegum petunia bubble gum
super tunia. Yes, excellent plant, cascading, very weak blossom if
you've got a little bit of sun, if you'll keep
it fertilized and prune, you probably could get it all
the way through the winter, probably into June. If you're
looking for something to plant more fall ish marrigolds, marry golds, Yes,
(17:55):
yellow oranges. You also have moms which some of most
of them are butted. Yeah, cracking. Why would the plant crack?
Doesn't that hurt it? The buds are cracking, the buds
are opening.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Oh okay, So just get some plants superglue and you'll
be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Right, Yes, well, I don't know if we sell that.
I need to pull that in there you go.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I do have a caller question from Joe who has
a Saint aug Sine lawn, a grass in her lawn
and was wondering if she can use MSM on her lawn. Now,
actually that is on my notes. I just sprayed my
yard yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are you Joe? I know no. MSM with our temperatures
we are still at right now, would be the recommendation
for any type of weed control in either Saint Augustine
or centipede lawns. It could be used number mutols, so
I believe correct, Yes, just not in your flower beds.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
It's for your lawns, and it's a broad leaf weed
killer does an excellent job on Virginia button weed, which
is what I'm fighting.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I gave up. I got a beautiful green lawn with
little white flowers. When you put out MSM and you
mentioned the flower beds and you accidentally spray it on
your bubble gum petunia, the MSM thinks that the bubblegum
(19:19):
petunia is a weed, right, correct, Okay, so it's going
to kill it. MSM does not.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Know the difference between a weed and a plant, And
actually a weed is a plant that's out of place, exactly. No,
it's a broad leaf weed. It'll it'll probably damage it
or kill it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yes, And that's one of the things that we so
often get calls about, Well, why it's not grasses are
more resistant to MSM than a broad leaf plant. I'm
not going to use the word weed. I'm gonna use
(19:54):
broad leaf plant. So when we when people come into
the store and ask, well, how much per gallon, No,
that's the wrong question. When we're dealing with weed killers,
it's how much chemical per area, which typically we recommend
a thousand square feet at time. And I always tell
(20:16):
people if you could, well, MSM is a powder, So
it's not a good example, but if you were able
to take one ounce of weed free zone and spray
it out over a thousand square feet, you don't need water.
Water is just in weed killers. Is just a way
of applying the chemical out over a number of square feet.
(20:38):
Well it's kind of hard to spread one ounce, Well yeah,
you can't. You can't, so we mix it with water. Helps.
It's I forget MSM an eighth of a teaspoon.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
So for centipede it's an eighth of a teaspoon, and
for Saint Augustine and bermuda and carpograss it's a quarter.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, Well, let's just say let's just use a quarter
of a teaspoon for the example. If you put a
quarter of a teaspoon in one gallon of water and
you can spray that one gallon of water out over
a thousand square feet, you're good. If you're a heavy sprayer,
put two gallons of water in a sprayer. But the
thing is to have a rough, not a rough, but
a fairly accurate idea of what a thousand square feet
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in your lawn is.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
And a lot of people come in and say, well,
if a quarter teaspoon is enough, I'm going to double it.
And that's just that's the reason they have these rates
is because it can damage to Saint augustine or the
plant you sprained it on.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Not at this rate. Like I said, grasses are more
resistant to the chemical. So if you double the rate,
you may be killing your grass. And again, if you
take that quarter teaspoon and spray it out over two
thousand square feet, all of a sudden, your broad leaf
weed is more resistant to it. So the coverage is
what's so much important. It's so much more important than
(21:55):
not the amount of water that's in the container. Correct.
Good morning, Rick, Welcome to the news radio eleven fifty wjbo's
Lone Garden Show. What can we do for you today?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
No, I mean I can help you today a little bit, okay,
But y'all started talking about micro irrigation. I looked into it,
took my wife to get some stuff for it. The
first main garden took maybe, like you said, thirty minutes
before I knew it. I had seven separate stations set
(22:27):
up the micro irrigation and them we could up on
the car port or the backfront porch alive but grippers and.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
All those yeah, oh yeah, I just like I said,
I did my patio about a month and a half ago,
after many years of riding out lattice work with a
sprinkler and I just recently also did well about a
year ago did my garden and I did the same thing.
I've got it set up on different stations, so if
I got an area where nothing's planned, I can just
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turn that off. It's so easy. And like I said,
just you know, do you want to come into Clegg's nursery.
I don't know where you got yours, Rick, but give
bring in. You don't have to have a very accurate plan.
You don't even have to have really distances other than
total distance. So we can give you what I call
the trunk line or the half inch supply line, and
we can work out, you know, whatever you need. Do
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you need different stations, do you need you know, a
long run. There is a limit to the number of
sprinkler heads that you can put on a line due
to the amount of water you can get out there.
You don't want to, you know, put sixty heads on there,
and the ones at the very end are just barely dribbling.
But yeah, it's a very simple process. Just and thank
(23:38):
you Rick for calling and sharing that with us, because
it is a very easy thing to do and relatively expensive.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
One thing I really loved about them, is you can.
We've got what they call the rose sprinklers. Yes, as
you say, circle down to the grounds, you know, wedding
the leaves or the rose.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Bush exactly exactly, so you don't have that fungal activity
you do with overhead water.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And I'll use mechanical timers so that if I say, well,
this guard needs water, I can turn it off for
twenty thirty minutes walk away, yeap.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Now, one of the things with micro irrigation is these
we've had some issues in the past where these sprinklers
that turn themselves off, like you turn them for twenty
minutes and then it turns off. Sometimes there's some back
pressure on some systems that they won't shut off. So
we don't normally recommend just what I call the dial
timers where you set it for like the old egg timer,
(24:28):
where you set it in time like a kitchen timer.
That we have had some problems in the past with
some back pressure not allowing those to shut off. But
again the digital timers work great on them. So anyway, well,
thanks for the call, Rick, We appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yep, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
All right, you all have a great day and that
does open up phone lines right now at four five
two six set's four nine nine WJBS. To get back
to your question, Caroline, which was about what was it again? Well?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Can I plant in a pot now for some color?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, one of the things that I always recommend
this time of year especially is a croton. Yes it's
not a blooming plant, but it gives you all the
color with the folige and it's the fall colors. It's
the yellows, the gold, the reds, the orange oranges to it.
So crotons, to me, are always an excellent fall plant.
Work it into the pumpkin display with the wheat stalks,
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was it wheat bundles.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Wheat bundles in the crotons can can tolerate full sun,
can tolerate shade. In fact, the more sun you get,
more of the lighter colors, your oranges and yellows, and
if it's in the shade, more of the darker colors.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Another thing that I like, and I know a lot
of people. You know, everybody thinks of moms, football and
moms and you know fallen moms. Uh Scott Ricca who's
on the show quite a bit. Also marigolds marigolds give
you the same most of the same color patterns. You
don't have the whites or the purples that you do
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with the mums, but they're gonna to me marigolds, especially
if you, you know, get irritated and go out there
and pinch a few of the old dead heads off.
We'll give you bloom for a much longer period of
time than a mum will.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
They'll repeat bloom that mum's They put off a great show.
But once they're done, they're a party.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's it. They're a party plant. Yes, great for parties
exactly if you if you're decorating for the I think
it's South Carolina, it's the next home game and you
want some instant pizzazz with your pumpkins and wheat bundles
at your front door. A mum or two in there
does definitely add to that. But hopefully that gave you
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a few suggestions. Yes, very good. Again, that does open
up phone lines for nine six sets for nine nine
w JBO put your smack dab on top of our list.
Did you have any other questions?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yes? Can I plant tomatoes?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
No? I'm not even going to lie and say yes
unless you have a hot house or some type of
a production area. You're not going to get any You're
not going to get any tomatoes. It's late in the season.
Either the day length is going to stop you. And
if that doesn't stop you, the cold weather definitely will.
But there's a lot of other stuff you can plant.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I mentioned to you at break I actually have eight
to tomatoes on my book.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And when did you plant? I planted in August, maybe
in late No, it was August, it was, And that's
you know. I gripe all the time about the name
winter Riser that it should be fall arizer. Fall tomatoes
should be labeled late summer tomatoes. See, I was going
to tell you because in years past I usually don't
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get tomatoes till December, so I was going to call
them winter tomatoes. Well, so when you plant them, right,
you know, you won't not so much when you're picking them. Yes,
I understand you're picking in the fall, but you know,
because of day length and the day length on tomatoes,
if we get too short a day length, you're not
going to get a ripe tomato on your plant. It's
just it's not going to redden up or we're gonna
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get caught by cold weather and your plant's going to
get killed. So you want to have the plants in
and you want to have your tomatoes growing. You want
your eight tomatoes on your plants now like you do, Chris,
And don't don't think that there's nothing else else to plant.
Who can write broccoli, colorflower, lello co colar, coliflower, mustard, herbs.
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I mean there's several things. We love planting mustard plants
as they grow and bloom and they get the little
French's mustard.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I don't know where you're buying your seed, Johnny Naylor say,
here you go. But there's plenty of things to plant,
even though we can't plant tomatoes right now, right a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'm going to I hope Tom's not listening because he's
gonna yell at me. Do not come into any nursery
and pay three dollars in ninety or let's just say
four dollars for either a single or a four pack
of beats. Just get the seed's just sixty nine cents
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or whatever it is. Yeah, because if you buy a
four inch beat plant for four bucks, you're going to
get one beat, one beat, one beat. If you buy
the four pack for four bucks. At least you get
four beats. We're a pack of beat seeds. Truthfully, it
is going to be less than two dollars and you're
going to get sixty beats. And they're fairly easy to
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Germany cresit. Oh, they're very easy there. They're what we
call a direct seed. You don't have to put them.
In fact, you don't want root crops for the most part.
You don't want to transplant your radishes, your beats, your carrots,
your turnips. You want to plant direct seed those because
they're going to get a much better root system, which
is what you want to harm. So when you come
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into the nursery looking for your fall vegetables, don't forget
about Johnny Naylor's seed rack. On the back wall. I
think it's a back wall of all four stores. It's
on one of the walls. Ye, it's on one of
the walls. I think Don Moore might be a sidewall.
But anyway, that doesn't matter, because you know, you can
buy a pack of beats, and not only can you
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get whatever red acre or whatever beat is on table,
but there's a variety and there's a description. There's a
description on every peg hook that the seeds are on,
explaining to you what the difference? Why why would you
want a Detroit dark red over a red acre in
your broccoli? Are you wanting the single head? Are you
wanting side shoots? That's all explained on these little lots
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of little information on those little tags.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And it's called Johnny Naylor select seed because he selects them,
he goes through, he grows most of them.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
He's grown all of this. In fact, he was We
did a pre recorded show the other day and there
was one seed on the wall that he was trying
this fall for the first time. But other than that,
he has grown everything in his garden. And if it's
not successful, it doesn't go on as wall. Nope, it
goes into trash can. But anyway, to answer your question, Caroline,
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they're tomatoes are definite no, pepper's a definite no eggplant, Okra,
All of your true heat plants are definite nos right now.
But let us I do I'm not sure we even
let us is something you can do right now? Any
of your leafy crops. Yeah, I had mentioned lettuce. Okay.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I'm usually not very successful with letters up, I think
just because it's always so warm, I mean it's warm,
it will become bitter.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, it bolts, yes, and that's as Yeah, red sales
will bolt if you know, if you even say the
word warm, narrative goes to flower. But there are variety
summertime that will are less likely to bolt. And again
that's on the little information on tags on the seeds.
But lettuce can be difficult, and lettuce is the one
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thing that you can do from my lazy gardener comes out.
I buy my lettuce plants because I like to space
them out better. And when you do seeds, you know,
whenever you do any type of seed, you're going to
have to go in and do a thinning process because
you're you're not gonna be able to put you know,
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some of these seeds are I mean, my big old
fat fingers. I can't spread them out very well. So
it's important to go in and thin. And what that
means is you're just once everything's up and you can
actually grab hold of it, you're pulling some of them
out and just chunking them aside because you want the
bigger ones to grow and mature and produce whatever you're
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trying to produce. And that's one of the things. A
lot of people come in wanting to plant carrots, which
I anybody listens to the show, anybody ever talked to
me at Clegg's Nursery when I was there or Naylor's.
I love to get people to plant carrots when they
have children, because carrots are the Easter eggs of the
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vegetable world. Johnny does he has a name for rainbow
mixed Rainbow Yes, where he has mixed several different colors
of carrots and you put them out there and it's
really cool. When the kids start pulling them up. They
don't know if they're going to get a purple, an orange,
yellow or red white, h whit. Yeah. But the thing
with carrots is that is an extremely small seed. Is
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you want to take your erea and you want to
spread them out as best you can and water them in.
Don't put dirt over the top of them. Some people
will take like a little flat shovel and tap them
down or water them in. Once they come up and
you can tell they're actually what they are. You want
to go through And what I do is I just
take my two fingers and I just pull out till
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I have groupings about two inches apart, and then a
couple weeks after that, I go back out and I
look at each one of those groupings, and there may
be six or seven carrots in that same grouping. I
pull all of them out, but the one biggest one,
and that's that will be my carrots for the season.
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And when they come over to pull them, they're going
to have a semi decent sized carrot underneath there where
if you keep them grouped too close together, you're not
gonna have anything but a jumbled mess.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
So you might have one that's four inches, you might
one have one have one that's an inch, and you
know it be.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
All wrapped around each other, and it's just it's not
a pretty sight.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Another thing with carrots is you want to make sure
you have a very loose sandy soil, our clay soils,
and it's really hard to grow in our ground. Any
type you do, a raised bed, they would grow in
that very well, very very well.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
With me. Chris Hermon from Clegg's Nursery and in turn
in training, Caroline, good morning, everyone, Good morning, good morning,
last segment. But do you have any last questions?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Caroline, what true should I plant for shade?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Good question? Uh, The biggest before we answer that is
it depends upon how much room you have around your house.
You know, there's some beautiful shoe mar nutall oaks that
are just wonderful trees, but you're gonna need what would
you say, Chris, thirty forty feet out from a house
(35:24):
for those at least yes, yeah, so you know those
would be to me. The people say oak tree, well,
I won't be dead before it grows. No, you won't,
they give with proper watering and fertilization, you can get
a substantial amount of growth out of those trees. I
tell people I've been in our current house for a
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little over thirty years. I planted live oaks, which, oh
my goodness, they are so slow. I planted live oaks
that were about six foot tall one maybe a little
bit more than six foot tall when I planted them.
They're now over sixty feet.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Well, they're I don't want to say fast, but a
faster grower. When they're young, you ten to fifteen years
they have moderate rate of growth, and it's after the
fifteen years they start slowing down. But like you said,
I mean you can push it by fertilizing it and
watering it. Don't just dig a hole and stick a
tree in the.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Ground or pushing the ground. I mean you need to
it's going to be that same size ten years from now,
So that would be my recommendation. If you have the
room for a shade tree, would be one of the oaks,
not all shoe mard.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
You can also do a red maple or sycamore, especially
if you.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Want sycamore's color in the fall, but our fall is
usually January, right, I just don't like the mess of
a sick Again, personal preference. I don't like the mess
of a sycamore. If you need a smaller tree, the wildflower,
wild fire gum, I plan on one of those. I
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had a beautiful, beautiful cherry bark oak that got struck
by light and I planted this to replace it, and
unfortunately it's almost completely defilated right now. But it had
beautiful fall color, which I was very surprised July, no August,
but you know, but it's it is a great smaller
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growing tree. Again, you're gonna be in the forty foot
maybe fifty foot range. You don't want it on top
of your house, but you know, you can do twenty
twenty five feet out from a house on those. You know,
a lot of people look at some of even the
smaller trees. Well, I don't know if they're that much smaller,
the ali elms, ali elms, river birch, I hate river bird. Sorry,
(37:44):
it doesn't really matter what you like. Oh, that's right,
I keep forgetting that unless it's in Shirley's Ark exactly.
But there's a lot of choices out there. The most
important thing when you come into the nurseries, have an
idea of how much room you have. Yeah, I've got
a three acre lot. You know I can plant sixty
feet out from the house. Great, that's going to get
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a whole grouping of trees we can do there. You know,
I'm on a I don't want to say a postage
stamp lot, but you know, a small zero lot line lot. Well,
that's going to reduce your choices. You're going to be
into some of the smaller trees, some of the maybe
the dwarf magnolia's even first.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Well, there's also and I'm probably gonna get the name
wrong because you were mentioning the gum, but there's I
think it's silhouette, which is just a tall and narrow
growing and we saw them in Tennessee and they were
probably three or four foot wide and like fifteen feet tall.
I know that one at all that I want to
say it's silhouette. I that double check. That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
But yeah, the most important thing when you come into
the nursery is just give us some idea of the
space you have for that tree. And you know, one
of the things we were talking about as far as
growth on the trees, growth rate is and this is
for all of your landscape. Please mulch. Yes, maulch is
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one of the most important things you can do. It's
a great It helps with weed control, helps with moisture retention,
it helps with temperature. It actually you asked earlier Caroline
about things you can do or not to do for
plants for cold weather. Mulching is extremely important to protect
that root system, to protect the soil. And what is
the best kind of maltch, Chris, that's your personal opinion. No,
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it's whatever the wife wants.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
But I use my favorite mulch is Cypress is the
great a sulpers but it's so expensive. I use pineyed
a mulch in the front yard. I used the chopped
up the crushed straw, and just a few weeks ago
I put out that red dyed straw that we have.
I love it. Really, I didn't think I was gonna
like it. I don't like these red dyed mulches. But
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I put out the regular mulch and in like a
month or two it turned gray and this I'm very
impressed with it.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh that's good to hear it, because I'm kind of
I actually do the same way, but sometimes when you
look at it in the bale, it's like then when
you actually get it spread, it looks pretty. Because I've
seen a couple of places I've gotten. In fact, I
just did hardwood mult rings around the live oaks I
talk about, I've kind of gotten kind of like hardwood mulch.
I kind of use that on my paths between my
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raised beds. Yes, I'm doing some pathwork through some wooded
area in the backyard and I'm doing hardwood mult wherever
I've eradicated the privet. And it does. It looks great,
It looks natural. Mulch is extremely important. Like I said,
moisture control insulation, we control esthetics, and the aesthetics is
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you know. Shirley likes pond straw in our flower beds,
so the beds are mostly all pond straw. Where she's
got her bedding plants, we use the shredded because it's
easier to do around the small plants where they're shrubbery,
we just use the regular bales. But I have to
try a bag of the bale of the red and
see what I see, what I think? And you want
to make sure a lot of people ask how thick.
Of course, the thicker you put it the better, But
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you don't want to put it thick up against the plant,
especially up against the stem. Right. You want to do
what we call a reverse mountain.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yes, have it high in the middle of the plants
and the plane up against us.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
There you go. I'm gonna steal that one. But anyway, uh,
Clegg's Nursery. Anything real exciting just recently come in. Oh
that's right. You told me you hadn't been there. I
hadn't been there, been out at market. Actually it was
pretty interested. Yesterday I got a text from Zane a
white French mulberry. Oh really, yeah, Alba, so that'll be
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an interesting one. Anyway. I hear the music, which means
I've got about a minute left. Thank you, Caroline, you
did excellent, very good job.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Anyway. We are Clegg's Nursery. Four locations in the greater
Baton Ridge area. Seagan Lane by far the best location.
Don More in mid city Greenwald Springs at the end
of Sherwood Forest Boulevard and Denham on Range Road. We
are Clegg's Nursery. We are the independent garden Center of
Baton Rouge. We're here eight to nine every Saturday morning
to entertain, teach, and learn a lot more from you
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than you'll ever learn from us. Again, you're listening to
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Good Saturday morning, and welcome to the WGBO Lawn and
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning, Baton Rouge, and welcome to News Radio eleven
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With me is Chris Herman, and we are very pleased
to have one of the smartest people I know in
the world with us today. Good morning, Caroline, Good morning. Anyway,
if you want to get involved in our show, you
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(00:44):
six sets four nine nine WJBO. A lot going on.
Actually went to pick up the intern in training and
there was a lot of people out jogging, walking dogs.
Kind of a beautiful morning out there to get out.
I know there's something going on this afternoon that people
might want to be near their TVs for, but can't
I can't think of what. I can't either, but I'm
(01:05):
sure somebody could let us know. So anyway, if you
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for nine nine nine five two sixcess four nine nine WJBL.
Good morning, Caroline. Do you have any questions for us?
Real quick?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Mister Chris. Do you have to work with mister Butch.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Do I have to? Unfortunately, yes I do?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I feel sorry?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh? On God?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Anyway, Now, he's a pleasure to work for, very very intelligent.
Knows his plant material and his horticulture, and I've learned
a lot from him.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The checks in the mail. Let's say, what was that
green thing I just saw? Pat, This isn't TV. Nobody
saw that it was a check. It's not good any good,
you know. But no, anyway, Chris, we were talking before
the show started. Uh, I know, Clegg's got in your
pumpkins and all your fall decorating fun.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
We got in a load of pumpkins. In fact, we
have another one on the way. We have pumpkins, haybales,
corn stalks.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
New this year. We have wheat bundles.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Look like little bitty corn stalks eighteen inches tall.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I tell you what I went by there yesterday actually,
and the improvement that has been made in the way
y'all are displaying the pumpkins is just I love the breezeway.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
So we put a cover on top of our breezeway,
which was our initial intent. But it's okay, but we
didn't just it's not metal. It's actually a shaded or
a tinted vinyl. I guess, okay, So it's bright, but
the hot sun isn't on it, and it also keeps
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the rain off of it. So we now have our
pumpkins running all down that breezeway.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So it's very good. It just it's so organized and
looks so you know, it just really stands out and
makes you want to buy a pumpkin.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
It looks like fall, even though it doesn't feel like it,
it looks like fall. You're right about that, uh fo
two six sets, four nine nine. WJBO will give you
put Smack Dab on top of our list if you'd
like to give us a call. Caroline, do you have
a question what should I.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Do to my plants? My plants now that it is
getting colder?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, first off, I wish it was getting colder, But
now I'm going to change up that question just a
little bit. I'm going to say what shouldn't we be
doing to our plants? And Chris, if you disagree, please
let me know. I think the main thing is we
want except for annuals vegetables that you're planning right now,
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I don't want to fertilize correct nothing with a high nitrogen.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
We do have winter rizer, and most people think winter
risers for your lawns, just for your lawns, but you
can use that on your shrubs and it's got a
low nitrogen. But you don't want to put high nitrogen
where you kick out new growth because if you do
have that new growth, if we do have a frost
or freeze, it'll damage that it's going to be damaged.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And I agree completely with what you just said, and
especially if you have a new landscape. If you put
in a landscape this last spring, sometime during the summer,
those plants are still getting established. Wind ariser I hate
the name win arisers. Anybody that has ever listened to
the show understands it helps with root developments. So if
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you're going to help those new plants set out better
root systems, so next are going to have a much
stronger plant to withstand. If we have a drought situation.
They're just the heat stress of a plant out in
the landscape, and it is an excellent product to put
on your lawn every year because our grass is probably
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the most stressed plant in our landscape due to weather.
Because a grass root system, what would you say, Chris,
inch inch and a half into the soil, probably probably
you know. So if we get into a drought situation
and we don't water, that it's going to be stressed.
So let's get that. Let's give it the energy to
regenerate itself, so next spring your lawn can be as
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healthy as possible going into a situation where it may
likely be damaged. The other thing, Caroline, that I would
say I wouldn't do right now is any heavy pruning
because the same reason if we don't want to fertilize,
anytime you prune a plant, you're going to stimulate new growth.
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So if we have a lot of tender new growth
on a plant, that very likely can be burnt off
by a hard freeze. Even sometimes a gentle frosting can
damage a lot of new growth. So what we're saying
is we're not I wish we were getting closer to
having to protect our plants, you know, with covers and
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things like that. But what we're looking at right now
is more what we don't want to do to our
plants going into co weather.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, I wanted to go back to what we were
talking about about fertilizing or not fertilizing your lawn and
your shrubs. We've had several customers come in asking, oh,
my plants look bad.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
What can I do to fix them?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Unfortunately, like you just said, the stress of being ninety
plus degrees for weeks on end and not much rain.
I mean, I was about saying the drought, but unfortunately
you can't. You just have to let the plant recover.
You can't really force them to recover this time of
the year.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, it's you know, I hate to use a human example,
but you have a person in I see you at
the hospital. You're not stuffing steak and potatoes down. No,
you know, you're you're giving them a liquid diet whatever
until they recover enough til you can give them the steak.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
You're also letting them rest, is what the plants. The
plants are naturally going to go dormant. Confused right now
because it's ninety degrees, but the day the amount of
daylight during the day. The days are getting shorter, and
that's another signal. Yeah, and that's another signal. Yeah, I
get to work and it's dark.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Did you have something to say? No, Okay, that's fine.
I just thought maybe you did, But no, it was
a very good point. We don't want Drought can cause
a forced dormancy, and a lot of our plant material
right now are getting to the point where they're in
a forced dormancy. I am a little bit concerned with
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the way the weather is right now about our sussanquin
chameleon blooms. You know, most of them are set, but
are they going to be able to fully open or
are they going to start dropping some of those buds
because plants that auring stressed, you know a lot of
times will drop flowers or not open them fully. So
good segue if you want to take it, Chris, is
(07:41):
what can they do about the drought situation? Water? Ah?
But what would be the easiest way to water, say
a large flower bed and the most efficient way? I
should say, maybe micro irrigation help you out.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I use an oscillating sprinkler, but yes, a micro irrigation system.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okay, you're putting the water where you need it. Right,
Let's go back to the oscillating sprinkler, which is a
you know that there's nothing wrong with that, but what
do you run it? Three four minutes? Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
No, I run it forty five minutes to an hour
right now at a nursery right now.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Is that about what each I'm running.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I'm actually running twice, so it's probably about forty five
minutes to an hour each section.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, And you run that in the evening right after
y'all close and leave, and then in the morning.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I try and put it as late as I can,
and it ends when I usually arrive at work.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Depends on how long I have to run it for.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
If we're hot and dry, like in August, I may
run it from when we open, I mean when we closed,
when we open. Okay, Now we do the cardinal sin
and we water at night. We have that's really it's
the only way we can. Otherwise our customers would get
all wet.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And that's one of the things that I'm segueing all
over the place. And we need to get back to
the micro irrigation in a second. But one of the
questions that I used to always get at the nursery
and you get now obviously, is when is the best
time to water? And my answer to that was whenever
you can, meaning if you know, if you don't have
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timers and you get home at eight o'clock at night
and that's the only time you can water water, then
the ideal time to water is in the morning, correct,
because it's cooler. When it's cooler, by the evening, any
water on the foliage will have evaporated, so you don't
have moisture sitting on the foliage all night long, which
can create fungal issues. But again, the most important thing
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is whenever you can, you know, and that's a nice
thing in today's marketplace. You have these timers that you
can set on your hose and if you're still at work,
you know, if you're at work at three o'clock in
the morning, well it'll go off at six in the
morning for you and run for thirty forty five minutes
whatever it needs to be. But again, if you don't
have the timers and you get home at eight o'clock
(09:56):
at night, go out, set your sprinkler and let it run,
because the water is what's most important.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, I usually tell people if you get from home
home from work and you see your plants wilting water.
I mean, that's not the ideal time, but the plant
needs water, the water, and so it's best of water
in the morning. I guess the sun really doesn't have
to be up yet, but you know when the sun's
coming up, and the sun comes up and it'll burn
off the excess moisture on the foliage, so you don't.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Have that disease problem. And that is one of the
benefits of look at the way, I'm going back into
micro irrigation here. One of the benefits of micro irrigation
is that typically the moisture you're putting out is low
to the ground, so you're not getting it on the foliage.
Then the other thing is with an oscillating sprinkler or
any type of overhead sprinkler, you're especially if you're doing
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it during the day, you're losing some of that moisture
to evaporation immediately. Where the micro irrigation, that moisture's going
straight onto the soil. So you're going to get a
much better use of the water you're putting out.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
When I use my oscillating spring because I'm lazy, but
I'm putting the water down.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's right. I water the sidewalk and part of the street,
the house and exactly which you know, Hey, that's the
most important thing you said, is you're watering. Yes, and
but again, come by this nursery. You know, there's several
people there that can help you show you through the
micro irrigation. It is a relatively inexpensive, very very easy
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to put together, and so easy.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I can do it years and years ago when I
first did, it's Scott our leader and yes, our fearless leader.
He kind of showed me. I just felt lost. So
I went out to the house and I put this
piece on. I shoved that piece in there and poked
a hole in this. So this is not going to work.
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Came back over. I can't really say what.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I can't say on the radio what I said, but
it was like, holy smokes, look at that. Yeah, it's
it is easy. It's very easy. I had a a
very rude I'm gonna be honest, a very rude gentleman
came into when I was still at Naylor's and goes,
I need I need this irrigation system on my plant material.
And I said, well, you know what, is it? And
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he said. He says, I need someone to do it.
And I said, well, sir, you really don't. I said,
it's a very simple layout. I can talk you through
it real quick. No, I don't have time. I'm busy.
I'm busy, and you know, whatever, you know, whatever it costs.
And I saw him. I said, okay, fine, I said,
I'll do it for two hundred bucks. And he goes, oh,
that's a great deal. He said what I said, when
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can you? And I said, I can com buy tomorrow
at lunch. At lunch, yeah, I said, you know, I
told you it's a very simple setup. You know, you
just have basically a straight line run. And okay, well
it's worth it. You know. Two hundred bucks to me
is nothing, you know. So I went over there and
I put his system in in fifteen minutes and I
got done. I walked up to him and I said,
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here's my bill. It was probably about fifty sixty bucks.
I don't remember exactly, a parts plus two hundred. I'm
not paying you two hundred dollars, I said, sir, I
told you how simple it was. And so anyway, he
finally ended up paying me, but he was but the
point is, that's how simple it is. It doesn't take
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very long. I did my for some stupid reason, I
talk about all the time, our potted plants on our patio.
We'd set an oscillating and sprinkler. When we went on vacation,
watered the house, rotted out of you know, some lattice work,
the whole thing. And last time we took our vacation
about it. Literally about an hour before y'all closed, I
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hopped in the car. I know when you hate coaching.
One of those customers. One of those customers, got everything
I thought I might need, went home. I had it
all put together from when the thought got in my mind.
Fifteen minute drive to Klegs, shopped at Klegs, fifteen minute
ride home. I had it all together in two hours.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Most of our pots on our patio with a little
micro irrigation.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why didn't you tell me about it earlier?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Anyway, we need to Shirley, she came up with the
idea to tell you. In turn in training, Caroline is
with us. Good morning, Caroline. Negotiations broke down with miss
Anna Claire. Yeah, miss Anna Claire is, so I have
to call her miss Ana Claire because wasn't that in
the contract?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It was, but I don't know. We're still working on it,
but there may be a shutdown coming. Actually had a
very actually extremely interesting question during the break that has
got me thinking, and I think I've come up with
a response to the question. I'm going to rephrase it
a little differently than it was asked to us, But
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the efficiency of a micro irrigation system as compared to
an oscillating impulse type sprinkler the biggest thing with micro irrigation,
especially in flower beds with shrubbery. I don't know who
came up with the name for this head they use,
but they call it a shrubler rubler. Yeah, what it
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is is that I call it a spider. But it
puts out like eight little streams of water that you
put right at the base of the plant, right at
the root system, right at the root system, so you're
watering the root system of each individual plant in the landscape,
so the water is going where you need it. There's
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also if you have expansive bedding plant areas, there are
spray heads that you use there, so they're not as
efficient as a shrubbler. But again, you can't put a
shrubbler right next to each individual bedding plant. We do
have drippers, but that's a whole nother story. We're with
an oscillating sprinkler or an impulse sprinkler. You're watering the
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driveway well.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
As I said, the SIDEWI street. I have a little
strip of grass along the street. Then there's a sidewalk, yeah, driveway,
and I have a little trip on the other side
of the driveway, so it's just easier to catch it
with the oscillating sprinkling.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well, and if you're if you're dealing with a grass situation,
you obviously can't use a micro irrigation system for that.
You have to use an impulse sprinkler or an oscillating
sprinkler for that. But anytime you're dealing with flower beds,
you know, in the long run, your micro irrigation is
going to be so much more efficient. You're not putting
water where you don't want it. So that's hopefully the
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answer to the question that we had off the air
during the break. Give us called four six sets, four
nine nine w JBO get you put pretty close to
the top of our list. I don't know what's going on,
So Caroline, do you have another question for.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Us, what can I put? What can I plant in
a pot now? For some color?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
So right now we have a good selection, well a
decent selection of your fall plants. We do have some pansies,
snap dragons, dianthus. I'm my finished petunias, although I will
say it is still too hot, as Scott Ricat used
to always say, and I use it quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The pansies that Kleggs is selling right now are sacrificial pansies, yes,
because they are will die. There's several soilt pathogens and
I will get back to your question a minute, Caroline.
There's several soalt pathogens that are very active right now
at our soil temperatures, and they just love the stem
of pansy plants. So but anyway, I would like to suggest,
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if you don't mind, Chris, a bubblegum petunia bubble gum
super tunia. Yes, excellent plant, cascading, very weak blossom if
you've got a little bit of sun, if you'll keep
it fertilized and prune, you probably could get it all
the way through the winter, probably into June. If you're
looking for something to plant more fall ish marrigolds, marry golds, Yes,
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yellow oranges. You also have moms which some of most
of them are butted. Yeah, cracking. Why would the plant crack?
Doesn't that hurt it? The buds are cracking, the buds
are opening.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Oh okay, So just get some plants superglue and you'll
be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Right, Yes, well, I don't know if we sell that.
I need to pull that in there you go.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I do have a caller question from Joe who has
a Saint aug Sine lawn, a grass in her lawn
and was wondering if she can use MSM on her lawn. Now,
actually that is on my notes. I just sprayed my
yard yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are you Joe? I know no. MSM with our temperatures
we are still at right now, would be the recommendation
for any type of weed control in either Saint Augustine
or centipede lawns. It could be used number mutols, so
I believe correct, Yes, just not in your flower beds.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
It's for your lawns, and it's a broad leaf weed
killer does an excellent job on Virginia button weed, which
is what I'm fighting.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I gave up. I got a beautiful green lawn with
little white flowers. When you put out MSM and you
mentioned the flower beds and you accidentally spray it on
your bubble gum petunia, the MSM thinks that the bubblegum
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petunia is a weed, right, correct, Okay, so it's going
to kill it. MSM does not.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Know the difference between a weed and a plant, And
actually a weed is a plant that's out of place, exactly. No,
it's a broad leaf weed. It'll it'll probably damage it
or kill it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yes, And that's one of the things that we so
often get calls about, Well, why it's not grasses are
more resistant to MSM than a broad leaf plant. I'm
not going to use the word weed. I'm gonna use
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broad leaf plant. So when we when people come into
the store and ask, well, how much per gallon, No,
that's the wrong question. When we're dealing with weed killers,
it's how much chemical per area, which typically we recommend
a thousand square feet at time. And I always tell
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people if you could, well, MSM is a powder, So
it's not a good example, but if you were able
to take one ounce of weed free zone and spray
it out over a thousand square feet, you don't need water.
Water is just in weed killers. Is just a way
of applying the chemical out over a number of square feet.
(20:38):
Well it's kind of hard to spread one ounce, Well yeah,
you can't. You can't, so we mix it with water. Helps.
It's I forget MSM an eighth of a teaspoon.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
So for centipede it's an eighth of a teaspoon, and
for Saint Augustine and bermuda and carpograss it's a quarter.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, Well, let's just say let's just use a quarter
of a teaspoon for the example. If you put a
quarter of a teaspoon in one gallon of water and
you can spray that one gallon of water out over
a thousand square feet, you're good. If you're a heavy sprayer,
put two gallons of water in a sprayer. But the
thing is to have a rough, not a rough, but
a fairly accurate idea of what a thousand square feet
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in your lawn is.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
And a lot of people come in and say, well,
if a quarter teaspoon is enough, I'm going to double it.
And that's just that's the reason they have these rates
is because it can damage to Saint augustine or the
plant you sprained it on.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Not at this rate. Like I said, grasses are more
resistant to the chemical. So if you double the rate,
you may be killing your grass. And again, if you
take that quarter teaspoon and spray it out over two
thousand square feet, all of a sudden, your broad leaf
weed is more resistant to it. So the coverage is
what's so much important. It's so much more important than
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not the amount of water that's in the container. Correct.
Good morning, Rick, Welcome to the news radio eleven fifty wjbo's
Lone Garden Show. What can we do for you today?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
No, I mean I can help you today a little bit, okay,
But y'all started talking about micro irrigation. I looked into it,
took my wife to get some stuff for it. The
first main garden took maybe, like you said, thirty minutes
before I knew it. I had seven separate stations set
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up the micro irrigation and them we could up on
the car port or the backfront porch alive but grippers and.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
All those yeah, oh yeah, I just like I said,
I did my patio about a month and a half ago,
after many years of riding out lattice work with a
sprinkler and I just recently also did well about a
year ago did my garden and I did the same thing.
I've got it set up on different stations, so if
I got an area where nothing's planned, I can just
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turn that off. It's so easy. And like I said,
just you know, do you want to come into Clegg's nursery.
I don't know where you got yours, Rick, but give
bring in. You don't have to have a very accurate plan.
You don't even have to have really distances other than
total distance. So we can give you what I call
the trunk line or the half inch supply line, and
we can work out, you know, whatever you need. Do
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you need different stations, do you need you know, a
long run. There is a limit to the number of
sprinkler heads that you can put on a line due
to the amount of water you can get out there.
You don't want to, you know, put sixty heads on there,
and the ones at the very end are just barely dribbling.
But yeah, it's a very simple process. Just and thank
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you Rick for calling and sharing that with us, because
it is a very easy thing to do and relatively expensive.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
One thing I really loved about them, is you can.
We've got what they call the rose sprinklers. Yes, as
you say, circle down to the grounds, you know, wedding
the leaves or the rose.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Bush exactly exactly, so you don't have that fungal activity
you do with overhead water.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And I'll use mechanical timers so that if I say, well,
this guard needs water, I can turn it off for
twenty thirty minutes walk away, yeap.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Now, one of the things with micro irrigation is these
we've had some issues in the past where these sprinklers
that turn themselves off, like you turn them for twenty
minutes and then it turns off. Sometimes there's some back
pressure on some systems that they won't shut off. So
we don't normally recommend just what I call the dial
timers where you set it for like the old egg timer,
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where you set it in time like a kitchen timer.
That we have had some problems in the past with
some back pressure not allowing those to shut off. But
again the digital timers work great on them. So anyway, well,
thanks for the call, Rick, We appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yep, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
All right, you all have a great day and that
does open up phone lines right now at four five
two six set's four nine nine WJBS. To get back
to your question, Caroline, which was about what was it again? Well?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Can I plant in a pot now for some color?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, one of the things that I always recommend
this time of year especially is a croton. Yes it's
not a blooming plant, but it gives you all the
color with the folige and it's the fall colors. It's
the yellows, the gold, the reds, the orange oranges to it.
So crotons, to me, are always an excellent fall plant.
Work it into the pumpkin display with the wheat stalks,
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was it wheat bundles.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Wheat bundles in the crotons can can tolerate full sun,
can tolerate shade. In fact, the more sun you get,
more of the lighter colors, your oranges and yellows, and
if it's in the shade, more of the darker colors.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Another thing that I like, and I know a lot
of people. You know, everybody thinks of moms, football and
moms and you know fallen moms. Uh Scott Ricca who's
on the show quite a bit. Also marigolds marigolds give
you the same most of the same color patterns. You
don't have the whites or the purples that you do
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with the mums, but they're gonna to me marigolds, especially
if you, you know, get irritated and go out there
and pinch a few of the old dead heads off.
We'll give you bloom for a much longer period of
time than a mum will.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
They'll repeat bloom that mum's They put off a great show.
But once they're done, they're a party.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's it. They're a party plant. Yes, great for parties
exactly if you if you're decorating for the I think
it's South Carolina, it's the next home game and you
want some instant pizzazz with your pumpkins and wheat bundles
at your front door. A mum or two in there
does definitely add to that. But hopefully that gave you
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a few suggestions. Yes, very good. Again, that does open
up phone lines for nine six sets for nine nine
w JBO put your smack dab on top of our list.
Did you have any other questions?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yes? Can I plant tomatoes?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
No? I'm not even going to lie and say yes
unless you have a hot house or some type of
a production area. You're not going to get any You're
not going to get any tomatoes. It's late in the season.
Either the day length is going to stop you. And
if that doesn't stop you, the cold weather definitely will.
But there's a lot of other stuff you can plant.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I mentioned to you at break I actually have eight
to tomatoes on my book.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And when did you plant? I planted in August, maybe
in late No, it was August, it was, And that's
you know. I gripe all the time about the name
winter Riser that it should be fall arizer. Fall tomatoes
should be labeled late summer tomatoes. See, I was going
to tell you because in years past I usually don't
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get tomatoes till December, so I was going to call
them winter tomatoes. Well, so when you plant them, right,
you know, you won't not so much when you're picking them. Yes,
I understand you're picking in the fall, but you know,
because of day length and the day length on tomatoes,
if we get too short a day length, you're not
going to get a ripe tomato on your plant. It's
just it's not going to redden up or we're gonna
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get caught by cold weather and your plant's going to
get killed. So you want to have the plants in
and you want to have your tomatoes growing. You want
your eight tomatoes on your plants now like you do, Chris,
And don't don't think that there's nothing else else to plant.
Who can write broccoli, colorflower, lello co colar, coliflower, mustard, herbs.
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I mean there's several things. We love planting mustard plants
as they grow and bloom and they get the little
French's mustard.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I don't know where you're buying your seed, Johnny Naylor say,
here you go. But there's plenty of things to plant,
even though we can't plant tomatoes right now, right a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'm going to I hope Tom's not listening because he's
gonna yell at me. Do not come into any nursery
and pay three dollars in ninety or let's just say
four dollars for either a single or a four pack
of beats. Just get the seed's just sixty nine cents
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or whatever it is. Yeah, because if you buy a
four inch beat plant for four bucks, you're going to
get one beat, one beat, one beat. If you buy
the four pack for four bucks. At least you get
four beats. We're a pack of beat seeds. Truthfully, it
is going to be less than two dollars and you're
going to get sixty beats. And they're fairly easy to
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Germany cresit. Oh, they're very easy there. They're what we
call a direct seed. You don't have to put them.
In fact, you don't want root crops for the most part.
You don't want to transplant your radishes, your beats, your carrots,
your turnips. You want to plant direct seed those because
they're going to get a much better root system, which
is what you want to harm. So when you come
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into the nursery looking for your fall vegetables, don't forget
about Johnny Naylor's seed rack. On the back wall. I
think it's a back wall of all four stores. It's
on one of the walls. Ye, it's on one of
the walls. I think Don Moore might be a sidewall.
But anyway, that doesn't matter, because you know, you can
buy a pack of beats, and not only can you
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get whatever red acre or whatever beat is on table,
but there's a variety and there's a description. There's a
description on every peg hook that the seeds are on,
explaining to you what the difference? Why why would you
want a Detroit dark red over a red acre in
your broccoli? Are you wanting the single head? Are you
wanting side shoots? That's all explained on these little lots
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of little information on those little tags.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And it's called Johnny Naylor select seed because he selects them,
he goes through, he grows most of them.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
He's grown all of this. In fact, he was We
did a pre recorded show the other day and there
was one seed on the wall that he was trying
this fall for the first time. But other than that,
he has grown everything in his garden. And if it's
not successful, it doesn't go on as wall. Nope, it
goes into trash can. But anyway, to answer your question, Caroline,
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they're tomatoes are definite no, pepper's a definite no eggplant, Okra,
All of your true heat plants are definite nos right now.
But let us I do I'm not sure we even
let us is something you can do right now? Any
of your leafy crops. Yeah, I had mentioned lettuce. Okay.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I'm usually not very successful with letters up, I think
just because it's always so warm, I mean it's warm,
it will become bitter.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, it bolts, yes, and that's as Yeah, red sales
will bolt if you know, if you even say the
word warm, narrative goes to flower. But there are variety
summertime that will are less likely to bolt. And again
that's on the little information on tags on the seeds.
But lettuce can be difficult, and lettuce is the one
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thing that you can do from my lazy gardener comes out.
I buy my lettuce plants because I like to space
them out better. And when you do seeds, you know,
whenever you do any type of seed, you're going to
have to go in and do a thinning process because
you're you're not gonna be able to put you know,
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some of these seeds are I mean, my big old
fat fingers. I can't spread them out very well. So
it's important to go in and thin. And what that
means is you're just once everything's up and you can
actually grab hold of it, you're pulling some of them
out and just chunking them aside because you want the
bigger ones to grow and mature and produce whatever you're
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trying to produce. And that's one of the things. A
lot of people come in wanting to plant carrots, which
I anybody listens to the show, anybody ever talked to
me at Clegg's Nursery when I was there or Naylor's.
I love to get people to plant carrots when they
have children, because carrots are the Easter eggs of the
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vegetable world. Johnny does he has a name for rainbow
mixed Rainbow Yes, where he has mixed several different colors
of carrots and you put them out there and it's
really cool. When the kids start pulling them up. They
don't know if they're going to get a purple, an orange,
yellow or red white, h whit. Yeah. But the thing
with carrots is that is an extremely small seed. Is
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you want to take your erea and you want to
spread them out as best you can and water them in.
Don't put dirt over the top of them. Some people
will take like a little flat shovel and tap them
down or water them in. Once they come up and
you can tell they're actually what they are. You want
to go through And what I do is I just
take my two fingers and I just pull out till
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I have groupings about two inches apart, and then a
couple weeks after that, I go back out and I
look at each one of those groupings, and there may
be six or seven carrots in that same grouping. I
pull all of them out, but the one biggest one,
and that's that will be my carrots for the season.
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And when they come over to pull them, they're going
to have a semi decent sized carrot underneath there where
if you keep them grouped too close together, you're not
gonna have anything but a jumbled mess.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
So you might have one that's four inches, you might
one have one have one that's an inch, and you
know it be.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
All wrapped around each other, and it's just it's not
a pretty sight.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Another thing with carrots is you want to make sure
you have a very loose sandy soil, our clay soils,
and it's really hard to grow in our ground. Any
type you do, a raised bed, they would grow in
that very well, very very well.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
With me. Chris Hermon from Clegg's Nursery and in turn
in training, Caroline, good morning, everyone, Good morning, good morning,
last segment. But do you have any last questions?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Caroline, what true should I plant for shade?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Good question? Uh, The biggest before we answer that is
it depends upon how much room you have around your house.
You know, there's some beautiful shoe mar nutall oaks that
are just wonderful trees, but you're gonna need what would
you say, Chris, thirty forty feet out from a house
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for those at least yes, yeah, so you know those
would be to me. The people say oak tree, well,
I won't be dead before it grows. No, you won't,
they give with proper watering and fertilization, you can get
a substantial amount of growth out of those trees. I
tell people I've been in our current house for a
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little over thirty years. I planted live oaks, which, oh
my goodness, they are so slow. I planted live oaks
that were about six foot tall one maybe a little
bit more than six foot tall when I planted them.
They're now over sixty feet.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Well, they're I don't want to say fast, but a
faster grower. When they're young, you ten to fifteen years
they have moderate rate of growth, and it's after the
fifteen years they start slowing down. But like you said,
I mean you can push it by fertilizing it and
watering it. Don't just dig a hole and stick a
tree in the.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Ground or pushing the ground. I mean you need to
it's going to be that same size ten years from now,
So that would be my recommendation. If you have the
room for a shade tree, would be one of the oaks,
not all shoe mard.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
You can also do a red maple or sycamore, especially
if you.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Want sycamore's color in the fall, but our fall is
usually January, right, I just don't like the mess of
a sick Again, personal preference. I don't like the mess
of a sycamore. If you need a smaller tree, the wildflower,
wild fire gum, I plan on one of those. I
(36:56):
had a beautiful, beautiful cherry bark oak that got struck
by light and I planted this to replace it, and
unfortunately it's almost completely defilated right now. But it had
beautiful fall color, which I was very surprised July, no August,
but you know, but it's it is a great smaller
(37:19):
growing tree. Again, you're gonna be in the forty foot
maybe fifty foot range. You don't want it on top
of your house, but you know, you can do twenty
twenty five feet out from a house on those. You know,
a lot of people look at some of even the
smaller trees. Well, I don't know if they're that much smaller,
the ali elms, ali elms, river birch, I hate river bird. Sorry,
(37:44):
it doesn't really matter what you like. Oh, that's right,
I keep forgetting that unless it's in Shirley's Ark exactly.
But there's a lot of choices out there. The most
important thing when you come into the nurseries, have an
idea of how much room you have. Yeah, I've got
a three acre lot. You know I can plant sixty
feet out from the house. Great, that's going to get
(38:04):
a whole grouping of trees we can do there. You know,
I'm on a I don't want to say a postage
stamp lot, but you know, a small zero lot line lot. Well,
that's going to reduce your choices. You're going to be
into some of the smaller trees, some of the maybe
the dwarf magnolia's even first.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Well, there's also and I'm probably gonna get the name
wrong because you were mentioning the gum, but there's I
think it's silhouette, which is just a tall and narrow
growing and we saw them in Tennessee and they were
probably three or four foot wide and like fifteen feet tall.
I know that one at all that I want to
say it's silhouette. I that double check. That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
But yeah, the most important thing when you come into
the nursery is just give us some idea of the
space you have for that tree. And you know, one
of the things we were talking about as far as
growth on the trees, growth rate is and this is
for all of your landscape. Please mulch. Yes, maulch is
(38:59):
one of the most important things you can do. It's
a great It helps with weed control, helps with moisture retention,
it helps with temperature. It actually you asked earlier Caroline
about things you can do or not to do for
plants for cold weather. Mulching is extremely important to protect
that root system, to protect the soil. And what is
the best kind of maltch, Chris, that's your personal opinion. No,
(39:21):
it's whatever the wife wants.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
But I use my favorite mulch is Cypress is the
great a sulpers but it's so expensive. I use pineyed
a mulch in the front yard. I used the chopped
up the crushed straw, and just a few weeks ago
I put out that red dyed straw that we have.
I love it. Really, I didn't think I was gonna
like it. I don't like these red dyed mulches. But
(39:47):
I put out the regular mulch and in like a
month or two it turned gray and this I'm very
impressed with it.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh that's good to hear it, because I'm kind of
I actually do the same way, but sometimes when you
look at it in the bale, it's like then when
you actually get it spread, it looks pretty. Because I've
seen a couple of places I've gotten. In fact, I
just did hardwood mult rings around the live oaks I
talk about, I've kind of gotten kind of like hardwood mulch.
I kind of use that on my paths between my
(40:14):
raised beds. Yes, I'm doing some pathwork through some wooded
area in the backyard and I'm doing hardwood mult wherever
I've eradicated the privet. And it does. It looks great,
It looks natural. Mulch is extremely important. Like I said,
moisture control insulation, we control esthetics, and the aesthetics is
(40:37):
you know. Shirley likes pond straw in our flower beds,
so the beds are mostly all pond straw. Where she's
got her bedding plants, we use the shredded because it's
easier to do around the small plants where they're shrubbery,
we just use the regular bales. But I have to
try a bag of the bale of the red and
see what I see, what I think? And you want
to make sure a lot of people ask how thick.
Of course, the thicker you put it the better, But
(40:59):
you don't want to put it thick up against the plant,
especially up against the stem. Right. You want to do
what we call a reverse mountain.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yes, have it high in the middle of the plants
and the plane up against us.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
There you go. I'm gonna steal that one. But anyway, uh,
Clegg's Nursery. Anything real exciting just recently come in. Oh
that's right. You told me you hadn't been there. I
hadn't been there, been out at market. Actually it was
pretty interested. Yesterday I got a text from Zane a
white French mulberry. Oh really, yeah, Alba, so that'll be
(41:32):
an interesting one. Anyway. I hear the music, which means
I've got about a minute left. Thank you, Caroline, you
did excellent, very good job.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Anyway. We are Clegg's Nursery. Four locations in the greater
Baton Ridge area. Seagan Lane by far the best location.
Don More in mid city Greenwald Springs at the end
of Sherwood Forest Boulevard and Denham on Range Road. We
are Clegg's Nursery. We are the independent garden Center of
Baton Rouge. We're here eight to nine every Saturday morning
to entertain, teach, and learn a lot more from you
(42:03):
than you'll ever learn from us. Again, you're listening to
news radio eleven fifty wjbo's Lawn and Garden Show. We
will see you or talk to you next Saturday morning.
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