November 11, 2023 • 42 mins
This week on the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, Butch Drewes and Dr. Allen Owings from Clegg's Nursery are joined by the intern Anna-Claire! They'll cover the Whys and Why Nots when it comes to rye grass plus what's good to plant in the gardens right now with temperatures finally starting to fall (somewhat).
Also, plenty of your questions on topics ranging from crepe myrtles, citrus trees, strawberry plants, figs in cold weather and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am at (225) 499-9526! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, tap that red microphone button to TalkBack to us!
Also, plenty of your questions on topics ranging from crepe myrtles, citrus trees, strawberry plants, figs in cold weather and more!
If you'd like to be part of the WJBO Lawn & Garden Show, give us a call Saturday mornings between 8 and 9 am at (225) 499-9526! If you're listening on our free iHeartRadio app, tap that red microphone button to TalkBack to us!
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Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe Wgbolne and Garden Show, brought to
you by Clegg's Nursery. If youhave a question about seasonal planting, lon
and garden concerns or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine six. Good morning, and welcome back to wjbo's wand and
(00:24):
Garden Check today. I'm here withWhat's Drews and doctor Allen Owens from Flag's
Nursery. Good morning, good morning, good morning. Oh there we go.
I want to give a quick shoutout to all veterans, so thank
you for your service, and alsoa happy anniversary to my parents. Wow,
big day, I am. Igot it. Okay, I'm going
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to start the show off, soeverybody will hang or turn the radio off
immediately. We were on our wayto the show this morning and I saw
something on a truck. And sinceyou are the most intelligent person in this
room, especially now that Jared He'swalked out, Okay, big truck,
big truck. Ice on the sideof it. Ice on the side of
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the truck. Pictures of ice.Oh picture, Jeremy, put your headphones
on. I need you to helpme answer this question preface, going back
by. I saw a truck thatsells ice. It said it was the
coldest ice in town. How canice be colder than ice and you're using
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it in drinks? We're not talkingdry ice. Ice is all the same
temperature, So that's false advertising.When you're willing to sacrifice your love because
you're cold, is ice? Whydon't you take your headphones off, Jeremy
anyway, so you're not gonna beable to help me. Icy is the
coldest drink in town, isn't it? That's what they say. Maybe they
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coated the ice and icy. ButI thought ice was thirty two degrees.
Well that's where it freezes. Butit could be colder than that, right,
I don't think so. I don'tthink so. No, because when
you water your plants to keep themfrom quote unquote free exact from cold tempasure
freezing, when you ice over yourplants, your plant stays at thirty two
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Yeah? Okay? Or is theyour degree? Celsius? Did you have
something else you wanted to promote?I did want to talk about a few
educational programs, educational and horticulture gardeningevents going on today in the Baton rouge
area. Oh cool, so Iimagine them do what now? Can I
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can I attend these? Yes?You may, oh wow, thank you.
But I know some of y'all aregoing to be out and about and
in a little while and driving around, so you can run by the LSU
Act Center of Botanic Gardens at nineo'clock. Where's that at? That's on
Essen Lane between the hospital and theinterstate. Isn't it called Burden? I
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call it Burden Research Center. Butthe new name of it is LSU Act
Center of a Tanna Gardens. Ohokay, okay, So anyway, is
there a new sign Burden where theRural Life Museum is? Is there a
new sign, whether there's new signsthat were new a couple of years ago.
They have a beer fest there,beer fest. Yes, I'm not
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sure why I would know that.I think we all know why. You
know that? Okay, okay,what time is this? Okay? So
my master gardener friend Leo Borders.Leo is going to be giving a talk
at nine o'clock till ten o'clock talkingabout falling the garden, falling the landscape,
and it'll be falling the landscape.My doctor asked me this week if
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I had fallen lately, TONI Iwas falling into fall Okay, So anyway,
really nice, a really nice,a really nice home gardener educational program
this morning at the l s UAccident Botanic Gardens nine to ten Basic Gardening,
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no charge, no registration. Willthere be cookies? I hope there's
snacks and cookies. And then ifyou went into Bonzai, you can run
by the head. You can runby the Baton Rouge Garden Center at Independence
Park. And the Bonzai show istoday and tomorrow eleven am to four pm.
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And some of the Bonzi experts willgive a demonstration today at one o'clock
and then also a demonstration tomorrow atone o'clock. And there's no admission fee.
Where was that again? That's thegarden garden Baton Rouge Garden Center at
Independence Park, bon Size Society.And then if you live across the river,
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like in New Roads, you cancome to the library and New Roads
and hear me talk at ten amon Monday morning. Plants from the garden
center, benches and products from thegarden on her shelf, and I will
answer. I will answer all ofyour questions unless you're horticulturalist Buttstrews and then
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he can you know, will therebe cookies? I have it. I've
sent an inquiry about that and nobodyhas told me so. Anyway, New
Roads on Monday morning at ten o'clockand at the librarian. That's another free
program. So there's all kinds ofI could sit in gardening events and educational
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programs to go to. Can Isit improve your green thumb? Can I
sit in the back? You can? You can? You can throw things?
Sure? Oh I'm not there.You can't throw things. You can
do the wave. So nine toten this morning, right at just fall
gardening. Excellent time for that,right the Bond's eye is wear and win
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again the Baton Rooge Garden Center inIndependence Park. And that's eleven to four
today, eight and eleven to fourtomorrow. Oh wow, two days.
And then you are in New Roadsat the library on Monday, Monday.
There you go. Everybody, writethat down, get your weekend planned out?
Yes, what if they wanted tocall because they didn't get all that
information? What would they do?Annaclair they can call us A six that's
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fur nine nine w j w Ocould they do that? If they had
like gardening questions right now? Yeah? Do you have any gardening questions right
now? Yeah? Why did Iknow you did? Wow? I am
what you got? Every show?Why would you put right? Why would
you put out rye grass? Andthen why wouldn't you I'll do why you
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do the why not? Okay?Okay, So do you want to do
why? I'll do what I'll do? Why first? Okay? So we
have an established lawn and we're goingto oversee that with rye grass. Yes,
okay, Well we can start withthat. Okay. I have always
been of the opinion, and actuallyI this is a question that I actually
gave her because I was interested inyour response that you had a couple of
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shows to go on this. Thereare two types of rye grass. To
start out, there is the allrye grass is annual in baton rouge.
Even though some of it is termedperennial riegrass, it does not return her.
If it returns, it's very veryweak return on it. So what
we at Clegg's do is we havewhat we call annual ride grass, which
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is your typical coarse, taller growingryegrass, and then we sell what we
call dwarf annual, which a lotof people do call perennial, which again
I just said, is not perennial. Here. That is a shorter grower,
finer texture. I have always beenunder the impression that that the shorter
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growing that dwarf annual actually helps insulatethe grass that it's around. So if
we have a real cold, hardwinter, there is some insulation. Also
that root system gets out, gettingfibers in there helps keep your soil texture
looser than normal, and plus itgives you a nice, pretty green lawn
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all winter long. But you sayno, Well, I said no a
few weeks ago, because that dwarffor annual rye grass, which I call
perennial red grass, Yeah, ithangs on a longer into the spring,
and as your warm season centipedge grassor your warm season Saint Augustine grass,
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it is trying to start growing thatperennial rye grass is competing with it,
so you have a slower re emergenceof your warm season lawn in the spring.
Okay, I mean, is therea possibility of like the week cocktail
that we use and recommend strongly offspring long. Anybody that listens to this
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show has heard us talk about theweek cocktail. Won't the atrozine has some
effect on that as far as gettingrid of that, Yeah, if you
need, absolutely absolutely yes. Soif that is a concern, so you
can kind of push it out withsome mattressine if you would like to go
that route. A fertilization affect itat all? I mean, would let
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me rephrase my question aut fertilization inthe spring. If you put out let's
just use your word, perennial progress, would that affect the timing of your
spring fertilization on your lawn? Ithink I would do the normal fertilizer time.
Curious, and I'm just worried aboutthe heat and drought stress lawns,
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and in Louisiana right now, it'sa huge issue, and I just think
overseating it's going to stress the lawneven more. That's that's just I mean,
I'm so I enjoy having our conversationsvery much. You know again,
I'm concerned, and actually tomorrow morning. I was going to do it this
morning, but the rain has adjusteda little bit, so I'm gonna do
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it to my I'm actually gonna putout regular ride grass in my backyard.
The reason being I have two largedogs. Now, yes, and with
all the I'm gonna say mortality,with all the death of because of Virginia
button weed, and because of thedrought and because of the heat, I'm
scared of mud. And so Iwill be putting out rye grass in my
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backyard where the dogs are, justto help prevent the mud. Now,
I would not use and if I'min correct here, please correct me out.
I am going to use the courserfaster growing because I am going to
have wear and tear on that asopposed to the perennial I don't think could
recover from there. Actually I likethat idea, no doubt. So Yeah,
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if you have so basically what we'resaying, then if I again paraphrases
incorrectly, if you have a bareground area or a high traffic area that
you're concerned about mud things like that, the coarse rye grass annual rye grass
would be a good opportunity. Youare somewhat concerned about doing the overseating of
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existing lawns because of the current stressthat has been on it. If you
do decide to do that just tohave the green lawn, maybe maybe work
with the weed cocktail next spring.Absolute to push that out quicker, so
you're Saint Augustine centipede can recover.And I've been getting a lot of inquiries
the last few weeks about, youknow, the bare ground areas, the
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new construction areas. Right, it'snot the time, not the time of
the year to be oh knowing warmseason lawns. I mean you can put
outside right now that you're not goingto do seeds. We have a phone
call to put some put that rightgrass out, hold your soil. Yes,
sir, I'm going to go tothe caller. Why don't you go
to the caller. Good morning,Philip, Welcome to WJBO Lawn and Garden
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Show. How many we help youtoday? Good morning, So, good
morning Philip. Good morning. Howy'all doing, Doc? Look I called
you because, uh, the timegot away from me. Those crate myrtles
I've been nursing. Oh yeah,thoseke mardles. Okay, yeah, okay,
they I kept all the suckers offof them, everything up to about
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eight feet duck. Okay, Nowthey're gone dorming on me and I'm just
one of those. I guess Ishould leave them alone because if I start
cutting, I don't know whether it'sdead or alive anymore. I mean I
don't Philip, I'm this butcher fromClegg's. I'm not looking we take over
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for Allen. But you can taketake your fingernail, take your the blade
of your pruner and scratch the stem. Don't I mean, don't gouge into
it, but scratch a little bit. If it's bright green, that stem
is alive. If you're trying toremove deadwood. Just if you get to
an area where it has a dullyellowish color or even a brown color,
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that is dead tissue and there isno reason not to prune that out at
this time of year. Remove ofthe suckers. To me, anytime you
have a sucker on a crape myrtle, I would like I suggest strongly get
rid of it, because it's takingenergy from the tree you want. Also,
another issue we have in crape myrtlesis what we call water shoots.
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It's becoming more and more of aproblem with some of the new arboretum releases.
What it'll be is it's a stemor a branch that shoots straight up
in the air, and typically theydon't bloom as well as the other tissue,
and those are another thing that causesa weakening of the tree because it's
taking energy out. So if youhave water shoots, if you have suckers,
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if you have what you know isdeadwood on your tree, I would
I would recommend getting rid of itnow. Oh yeah, that all needs
to be done right now. Andyou can probably easily identify what's deadwood and
what's live. Would one deadwood ashow? Okay, okay, we're deadwood?
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Sound off the cote, all right. Yeah. I was worried.
I was worried that I wouldn't beable to uh with them going dorm and
I didn't know if when they wentdormant, they they lost that greenness,
no skin, no, no,okay. And then I really appreciate what
Butcher told me about the water shoes, because this, of course is not
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the ones in the front yard thatI'm trying to say, but the ones
in the backyard. I have twoof them in the backyard that are the
same species, and one of themmake those water shoes all the time.
So I'm so glad just to getin there with to shovel and cut them
out. Sounds good, all right, Thanks, thank you, thank you.
Phillow. Thank you, and wehave another caller, but we have
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other lines they could call them onright. Yeah, So if they wanted
to get in the line, whatwould they do? You could call us
out four six, that's for ninenine w JBO. Should we go to
the caller? Sure? All right, Good morning, SUSI welcome to wjba's
lawn and gardens. How may areyou happy today? Yes, I have
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a practice of taking young citrus treesand growing them in over large pots twenty
inch or so. I have ared orange tree that I've been babying in
a pot in and out during thewinter, and it's got a four inch
trunck now, and I believe itneeds to find its permanent home due to
the drought and full conditions. ShouldI plant it in the normal time mid
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November, maybe early December, orwait till spring. Ideally, my answer
on a plant that large would beto get it in the ground as soon
as you can. However, Susie, there is absolutely no way unless you
can get a backo you're going tobe able to dig a hole to plant
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that right now? It is.It is just unbelieved. I tried to
turn a raised area in our vegetablegarden to plant some kale a couple of
weeks ago, and it was difficult, even in an existing prepared garden bed
to actually get it. Broke up. You've you've babied them this long.
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Let's wait to if we start gettingthis rain. They're talking about up to
two inches of rain Monday, it'sgoing to take a couple of those to
get this ground where you can evenwork in it. Again, from the
standpoint of just the physical ability toplant it, I don't think you're going
to be able to Okay, evensuper soaking the you know area around where
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I out dig a twot two anda half foot hole, would that help
any Definitely, wait till wait tillspring. Truth of the matter is,
at this point, I think Iwould wait till spring. One other concern
and help me out with this.I know you watched the weather. More
from what we're hearing, it isgoing to be we're going to have have
a couple of very brutal parts tothis winter. I don't know if it's
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La Nina, Nino, lock Roca, or whatever it is, but I've
heard we're going to have a relativelytough, uh winter. So I think
at this point, since you've babiedit this long, let's go ahead and
go through one more winter before weplan it. Okay, thank you very
much. It's it's a little confusednow it's actually growing fruit. So yeah,
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a strange it has between between allthe cold snaps and all the heat
and all the drought it has we'vegot, we're even confused. So yes,
how do we expect the trees notto be? Thanks for Caryl Susy,
Thank you. Yeah, citrus havehad it rough last two or three
years? Yes, Who am I? Who am I? You're Alan Owens?
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Yes? Concerned? Why the commercehave I been replaced at Clegg's?
They said there was professionals. Oh, well you know that's Johnny Naylor.
Oh okay, shure, So youthink I am still employed? I believe
y'all. Well, we have twophone calls we need. But okay,
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let's see. Good morning, Tim, welcome to WJS on and go to
a show. How many we helpyou today? Yes, I have some
giant allocation that I got from youguys a couple of years ago, man,
about three years ago, and they'reabout The stalk itself is about four
and a half maybe five foot tall, and this past spring they only put
out small leaves. Now the leavesare gotten huge and they're up probably about
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ten feet. And I talked tosomeone there before and they said I could
cut that stalk off and plant thetop part and it would grow or keep
growing. I don't think so,h because I've been digging them up and
then planting them back when it getsyou know, when we get down to
the low temperatures, I go outthere and I dig them up. But
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I've had one now that's kind ofcurved out and gone back up exactly.
I don't think if you cut anallocation off, I don't think it re
sprouts from that the pups come upright right, yeah, right, yeah,
Now, because I had planted somebefore and covered them after they've gone
through the winter, and I've gottenall the pups off of them where I've
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got, yeah, probably about tenpuffs that are growing great. Good.
But you got there was some confusionon your question. No, you if
you cut an allocation off, youcan't root that allocation. In fact,
the plant that you cut off itselfis dead. However, that usually forces
pupps and that's how you propagate those. But no, you can't. You
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can't replant what you cut off,because I was going to go out there
before the frost or the freeze andI was going to cut them off and
plant them now the top parts.No, yeah, that won't work at
all, sir. So just continueto dig them up, yes, sir,
my greenhouse and planning them back outin the spring. That's it.
And how can I keep them fromlike all summer? I know it was
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hot, but I kept them watered, but they had small leaves coming out.
That's probably maybe more of a fertilizationissue than anything else. Just when
you if you're planting them back,when you plant them back in the spring,
use a good root stimulator, andthen as they get established, go
to adult food something like Grower Specialor the fertile on tree and shrub food.
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If I'm not mistaken, they're fairlyheavy feeders. Oh yeah, they
And when you get something that largethat needs at salts on them the last
be careful and they got them upbigger, kind of grew out. Be
careful using epsence salt. It's somethingthat we recommend on citrus, on hollis
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a lot of times. On sagopalms. I think I said citrus once
a year at the most is allyou want to do. Okay, good,
because actually, if you put toomuch magnesium sulfate out there, you
could eventually get a magnesium toxicity.So we want to we want to be
we want to do it, butwe don't want to overdo it, which
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it sounds like. And I doit once a year and we just put
the granules out on the ground andI water them in real good and that's
it. That's it, that's it. All right, Thanks for the call,
Tim, I appreciate it. Allright, all right, well we
have another caller. Let's go doit. Okay, let's keep this so
if you want to call, callit four nine five two six is for
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nine nine w JBO. Good morning, Bell, Welcome to w jbo's London
Garden Show. How may we helpyou today? Hi, I was thinking
about getting a strawberry plant, andI was wondering if it's like still okay,
when should I plant it. Westill have a few strawberry plants the
store. You could definitely plant themright now. With strawberry plants, you'll
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be using what we call bear roots, so you're going to be buying a
plant that does not have any dirtaround it, and you will need to
get it into the ground relatively quickly, so it would be important to have
your area ready for it. Alot of people will do strawberries this time
of year in pots, which makesit real easy too. So and in
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the spring, usually starting about February, we'll actually be selling strawberry plants in
and those will actually have been rooted. So you can do it either way.
If you want to do it now, you need to do it pretty
quick and you will be doing itwith bear root plants. If you want
to wait, you can do itin say late January, early February,
and you would actually be planting plantsthen and picking strawberries probably four to six
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weeks after you plant. Okay,thank you, Hey, thanks for the
call. Bell. Good morning,Richard. Welcome to w jbo's Lon and
Garden Show. How may we helpyou today? Hey, Hey, i
have a lot of them, alot of leaves in my yard. I'm
kind of curious. Over the yearsI've left them in my backyard and all
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water. Sometimes i'm motion, SometimesI rank them, sometimes I just leave
them my own winter. What's thegood, bad and ugly with leaves?
What's the best way to handle alot of leaves. As far as I'm
concerned, I don't like leaving theintact leaf on lawns. It can mat
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up, it can cause you know, blockage of sun, it can hold
in moisture, creating fungel issues.Uh, there's all sorts of issues with
again, a complete leaf. Iam of the opinion if you don't want
to collect the leaves, mulch them, create a compost pile with them,
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your best thing is to periodically runover them with the moa and chop them
up. Smaller pieces will deteriorate quickerand will be an organic material being added
to the soil underneath your lawn,which in the long run is beneficial.
So I guess mine would be toeither remove the leaves and put them into
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a composting situation to be used inflower beds or vegetable gardens, or chop
them up into smaller particles that willdeteriorate quickly in the lawn. And that's
what I usually recommend. Also,and if you have a large enough lawn
or like a perimeter area of yourlandscape, you can always just rake or
blow your leaves over into that kindof area. Underneath trees. You know,
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there are some advocates out there thatsay we want to leave every leaf
on the ground because they benefit firefliesand other beneficial insects, but also some
cycle of life thing as far asustrient replacement into the soil. I mean
the leaves. You know, wefertilize to create leaves. Well, yeah,
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you know, it's nothing ever goesaway. All matter changes forms,
but all matter remains in some form. So the nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium
that are taken up into leaves asthey deteriorate on the ground can be released
back into the soil. So there'sI don't I used to be when I
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was younger and had a lot moreenergy. You rake it, I'll take
it. I drive around bat androuge and pick up leaf bags, and
I would use it. You know, we have a relatively expansive, expansive
backyard that I would use it asmulching my wife's flower beds. So no,
there's benefits to the leaves. Youknow, if you don't, if
you don't want to compost again,just run over them with your mower,
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chop them up a little bit andlet that go back into the soil.
That sounds good. All right,thank you, thank you Richard. That
opens up phone lines at four twosix four nine. W JBO I got
a question before you do the withthe podcast, how do people know about
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the podcast if they aren't listening tothe show, And if they're listening to
the show, why would they listento the podcast? Oh, to catch
all this information and write it downin case we're going too fast. That's
an excellent idea, okay. Andthen like, if you forgot to listen
to last week's show, you cango and see. Oh but what Bill
(26:33):
Rowntree said, that's right, especiallywhat Bill said, especially how would they
do that podcast thing, Jeremy,they would get the podcasting. Oh okay.
And then I go to wjbo's websiteand it's right there too. And
I just listened to do anything tolike, what is it? Am I
going to say the wrong one?If I say clear channel? Yes?
(26:56):
Okay? You want me to takeover from me? Please? We're struggling
here, Well, why you're doingfine with callers? Uh? You can
download the iHeart app. It's afree and available in all you know.
All I was trying to go whatthey used to say back in the day,
like, you know, available inall major stores, you know,
(27:17):
available in your local in your friendlyneighborhood app store. You can listen to
any of our podcasts there. Andluckily, you said, how do people
find it? Once you listen toit, the app will happily remind you
when a new episode has landed.I get it every week saying, hey,
there's a new episode. Don't fallbehind. Cool. So it's actually
neat and honestly, you know,when you search I try to make it
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that when you search baton Rouge lawnGarden, hopefully it comes up, you
know. And you can't listen tolike ones from a while back. Yeah,
you can see how wrong you've beenfor years long. So we could
listen to the one from Wednesday?Which one on Wednesday? Oh, we
didn't do one on Wednesday. No, so we can't listen to it on
Wednesday. Well, the one inyour head you can listen to whenever you
(28:02):
want. But well, you knowwhat if I could just stick a USB
drive in there and not there,Yeah, let's they take us back and
Claire bring us back to reality.And also if you don't feel if you
like, don't want to call in, there's like a talkback mic where you
can like press it and then askyour question. Even I forgot about that.
(28:25):
Yeah, mister Jeremio, like playand we can respond to need date
for a non technology. Yeah exactly. So the best way, though,
is to give us a call foryes, Okay. That way you can
ask more questions if you have aquestion about what we're trying, because if
we were like to confuse them,confuse them, I'm lost. Oh,
(28:48):
we have a few minutes here.Do you have any other questions? I
do, whyon't we hit one ofthem? Can we still plant a garden?
And if so, what can weplant in that garden? Actually,
that is an excellent timely question.I have been holding people off. Yes,
and I am now full go guarden. It's full speed ahead right now.
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Yeah, we're supposed to. Ihope this rain hits Monday, but
we've cooled off. The biggest thingwas our temperatures. When you have the
temperatures we were having a lot ofyour coal crops, your winter crops,
your lettuces especially will do what's calledbolting. They will go to flour.
Once a plant goes to flour,especially lettuce, is toast. There's nothing
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you can do to. You can'tcut that out and get it to revert
back. It's done. I don'tthink, I hope anyway, that we're
not going to get anywhere into thosetemperature situations from here on out. I
actually, if anything, your broccoli, your cabbat, your cayliflower, your
kale, your lettuce, all yourseed crops, your radishes, carrots,
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beets, turn ups, all ofthat type stuff. I'm good to go
on all of it. The onlything in Alan helped me out here.
I'm not sure about spinach yet,don't you brings up a question? I
think Antaclair had that asked me onthe way over here. It's all temperatures.
Yes, I haven't checked soil temperatureslately. Spinach needs is cooler,
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yes, you in the front row. I actually have a question because you
mentioned the temperature, and even thoughour temperature is cool for this time of
year, the air quotes there howwhat would be too warm if that?
Like you said, it's okay toplant now because temperatures have cooled, But
if how what would be the dangerwarm up zone? Like if we somehow
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got back into the nineties regular rightexactly? Oh man, you're learning stuff
here. No, that was avery good question. I don't think we
may hit ninety. I hope not. But most of our high temperatures now
are going to be mid eighties atthe most exactly, and you're cooling nine.
In fact, it was a verynice morning that I woke out,
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and by not going into the nineties, by staying in the low eighties,
especially on an overcast day, buteven on sunny days, your soil temperatures
don't have a chance to really increasethat much. And then the cooler night
temperatures, if there is any increase, bring it back down. And your
cold crops spinached in particular, needsa cooler soil temperatures, needs it in
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the low seventies to really germinate theseed. I tell people all the time,
if you have an avid gardener inyour family, whether it be a
spouse, a child, hopefully aparent, whatever, soil thermometer is one
of the most important tools that thatperson can have in their gardening bag.
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Seed germination is so often as grassywe're talking about that that's critical. It's
critical to have proper soil temperatures.Piece of bermuda. What is it?
What is soil temperature? Seventy fiveis yeah, seventy two to seventy five,
right, you know, I justtalked about spinach seeds. We had
a question about betting plants, pansies. We have an issue with rise up,
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Tony, I think is how yousay it right, And that organism
goes dormant once our soil temperatures gobelow a certain temperature. So a lot
of people, you know, plantpansies. When that soil temperature is still
real hot, the plant will belightned and healthy, and all of a
sudden it droops over. Well,if you look at the soil line,
it's brown where that organism is attackedit. But the forecast for the next
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ten days is lows in the fifties, highs in the mid to upper sixties.
I do see a couple of seventytwo's in there. So you know,
let's get some rain Monday and Tuesday, and you know the next couple
of weeks before Thanksgiving, get allyour cool seasoned vegetables in the ground,
and uh and we should be good. And broccoli, cabbage and kyliflower they
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can handle more than Again, Ikeep going back to let us and even
I've seen it in turn ups andsome of those where we get at least
a little bit of warm up,it goes to bolt ye flowering. But
typically your broccoli they can stand afew days before we start to have issues,
especially in a younger stage like theyare. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
And like Bush was saying earlier,we do see in the coming month
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or two weather patterns that we're goingto start getting some more regular rain.
We're going to have average temperatures forthis time of year, and it you
know, cool seasoned vegetables grow great, grow great through the winter in battle
Reason in bat Rouge until we getthe slobber knocker slobber knocker coal events and
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that and that's in the teens,which we've had, you know, and
we're a week the last couple ofwinters here here and we're going have it
again. Yeah uh huh yeah yeahanyway, but good question. Yes,
get out plant your vegetables. Wehave a great selection at all four clubs
locations. They're really looking good too. One of my friends took a picture
of all the vegetables the vegetable tableat Dinim this week and send it to
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me. In Man, those lookgood. Seggins looks better. Good morning,
see you welcome to wgbus Lon andgarden. How may we help you
today? I had a question aboutfigs and treesing particularly. We had a
pretty good freezer in Livingston Parish.My outside thermometer read twenty nine degrees right
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and and there was some fruit onit, still green fruits. So first
should we just cut that off andtoasted or what should we do with that
fruit? Well, there were Yeah, there was some cold weather that kind
of got foliage on the fig treesthis late in the year. Those figs
are not going to mature. Thefruit's not so you could leave it on
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the tree or you could take itoff. It doesn't really matter. Okay.
My second question is you mentioned gettingdown into the teams and all they
did it last year and damage thefigs. Should I be covering them when
it freezes or is there a pointwhere night should cover them? Figs can
Figs can get substantial dam stem damageanytime you have a one at the beginning
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of it. The main thing thatand pull up the soapbox right here.
Plants, if you're protecting your plant, if you're covering your plant, just
putting a cover over the top ofit really does absolutely no good. You
either have to secure that cover tothe ground, so we're trapping ground heat,
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or put some type of an artificialheat source inside of that covering,
be it a heat lamp something likethat. You know, the way I
explain it to people is when youget in bed at night and your sheets
are real cold, and then maybefifteen maybe five minutes later they're warm unless
you have an electric blanket, yourbody heat is what heated up those blankets.
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Plants don't give off any heat.They do not have a metabolism like
mammals do. So we have gotto put a heat source or at a
minimum trap the ground heat for coveringto do any protection on any plant.
So yes, if we're gonna havea one in the temperature number, I
would definitely either expect to have somesevere stem damage on figs or get them
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covered up. Okay, great,thank you, all right, thank you,
Steve. And that again I apologizefor yanking the soapbox here. I
mean, how often do you drivedown the street when we have these temperatures
and you see that blue tarp drapedover the top and tied around the stem.
It looks like a blue lollipop outin these people's pop a blanket over
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a plant where you got to bringyour cover to the ground. Yes.
Then also I tell people whenever Ihave to cover something, what I do
is I find an old sheet oran old blanket. I put that over
first. Then I put my tarpover the top of that, because you
don't want any type of a viscqueen or plastic material touching that plant,
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because even if you have an artificialheat source, you're going to lose that
outer layer if you do because ofthat contact with the visc queen or any
type of the plastic material. Soif you just put even a thin thin
sheet underneath there, you'll get alot more protection that way. And it
seems like with the first you know, significant coal spell, every file now
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everybody has a mad rush to protectevery landscape plant in their in their garden
or landscape, and we just haveto realize we have warm seasoned plants and
we have cool seasoned plants. Andsure, or if you want to make
the effort and try your save yourcolius and begonias for another couple of weeks,
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cover them, but you know,let nature take its course and take
out those plants and put your coolseason coloring in afterwards. And there's certain
plants in your landscape that you know, you are zoned much higher than we
are here. Boxwoods, for themost part in the ground are going to
be relatively safe. Most of yourhollies should be relatively safe. What we're
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worried, What I'm more worried aboutin my landscape is the citrus trees.
Yes, I don't worry about hibiscus. I mean I can turn around and
buy a high biscus for fifteen bucks. It's going to be a lot better.
You know, it's going to probablybe blooming when I buy it in
mark Ables. The hibiscus that Itry to cover and protect is going to
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look like you know what at theend of the season. It's going to
delay the blooming. So a lotof your tropical plants. But yeah,
citrus of vegetable gar and if Ihave it out there and we're going to
get substantial cold a lot of times, I'll try to do some protection on
those. But for the most part, most of our shrubs around here really
don't need protection. Right. Peopleare asking about covering their camellias and everything,
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and know, you know, butjust said what shrubs we don't need
to cover, and there's very fewshrubs that we need to protect from cold
weather. Okay, that's a great, great I got a question for you.
Okay, if you have and camillius, the sanquas are blooming right now.
If you're driving around town seeing pinkeven some dark pink red blooms,
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white blooms, those are going tobe camellias's sanquis in this earlier spring,
later winter January February, that's whenwe get Camellia japonica blooms. Question to
actual question, Okay, trying wouldit benefit the damage to Camellia blossoms in
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that time period. Is that frostdamage or is that temperature damage. I'm
talking about the blooms. It's usuallydamaged when we get twenty eight, twenty
nine thirty degrees or lower. Soit is damaged by the cold, not
necessarily frostright. So if we wantedto protect those blooms, we would need
to protect the plant with the heat. So or exactly exactly, And yeah,
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and you're just you know, onyour camellias, and the sink was
your pondica's and the sink was You'reyou're getting damaged to you're fully open flowers.
You're partially open flowers. In extremetemples, you're getting damaged to the
butts. They're showing college think,great point, you're not harming the plant,
but you know you have that plant, so you're just losing flowers anywhere
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from a couple of days to twoor three weeks, depending on the degree
of the cold and the stage ofthe butd or flower development. I was
curious and thank you for clearing thatup. I didn't know if it was
the actual temperature. It was morefrost damage. But wow, Chris,
trees are arriving at Clegg's Nursery.We got our Noble Firs yesterday. I
was very very pleased. They werevery heavy coming off the truck, which
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means there's a lot of moisture inthose trees. Those are looking pretty fresh.
Fraser Firs I believe are arriving Monday, if I'm not mistaken. Have
some issues with Point Settus this year. I'm hearing the temperatures caused some growing
issues. Think about what the temperaturewas in September. A lot of heat
delay on Points set is. Ineed to check our crop at Greenwell Springs
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Road. Most of the six anda half inch. I think are doing
okay. I heard that we arehaving some issues with some of the larger
ones. Yes again, I'm hearingissues from several of the large points set
of growers. Maybe a slight shortageon those anyway. End of the show.
Thank you, Anna, Clara,Thank you doctor Alan Owen. Sir,
your my name is Butcherrews. I'mwith Kelegg's Nursery for locations in Baton
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Rouge. Come by and visit withus. Greenhouses are full of vetting,
plants, vegetables. You've been listeningto news radio eleven fifty wjbo's Wanna Garden
Show. We will see you nextweekend.
Good Saturday morning, and welcome tothe Wgbolne and Garden Show, brought to
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and garden concerns or questions about landscaping, called four nine nine WGBO. That's
four nine nine six. Good morning, and welcome back to wjbo's wand and
(00:24):
Garden Check today. I'm here withWhat's Drews and doctor Allen Owens from Flag's
Nursery. Good morning, good morning, good morning. Oh there we go.
I want to give a quick shoutout to all veterans, so thank
you for your service, and alsoa happy anniversary to my parents. Wow,
big day, I am. Igot it. Okay, I'm going
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to start the show off, soeverybody will hang or turn the radio off
immediately. We were on our wayto the show this morning and I saw
something on a truck. And sinceyou are the most intelligent person in this
room, especially now that Jared He'swalked out, Okay, big truck,
big truck. Ice on the sideof it. Ice on the side of
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the truck. Pictures of ice.Oh picture, Jeremy, put your headphones
on. I need you to helpme answer this question preface, going back
by. I saw a truck thatsells ice. It said it was the
coldest ice in town. How canice be colder than ice and you're using
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it in drinks? We're not talkingdry ice. Ice is all the same
temperature, So that's false advertising.When you're willing to sacrifice your love because
you're cold, is ice? Whydon't you take your headphones off, Jeremy
anyway, so you're not gonna beable to help me. Icy is the
coldest drink in town, isn't it? That's what they say. Maybe they
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coated the ice and icy. ButI thought ice was thirty two degrees.
Well that's where it freezes. Butit could be colder than that, right,
I don't think so. I don'tthink so. No, because when
you water your plants to keep themfrom quote unquote free exact from cold tempasure
freezing, when you ice over yourplants, your plant stays at thirty two
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Yeah? Okay? Or is theyour degree? Celsius? Did you have
something else you wanted to promote?I did want to talk about a few
educational programs, educational and horticulture gardeningevents going on today in the Baton rouge
area. Oh cool, so Iimagine them do what now? Can I
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can I attend these? Yes?You may, oh wow, thank you.
But I know some of y'all aregoing to be out and about and
in a little while and driving around, so you can run by the LSU
Act Center of Botanic Gardens at nineo'clock. Where's that at? That's on
Essen Lane between the hospital and theinterstate. Isn't it called Burden? I
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call it Burden Research Center. Butthe new name of it is LSU Act
Center of a Tanna Gardens. Ohokay, okay, So anyway, is
there a new sign Burden where theRural Life Museum is? Is there a
new sign, whether there's new signsthat were new a couple of years ago.
They have a beer fest there,beer fest. Yes, I'm not
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sure why I would know that.I think we all know why. You
know that? Okay, okay,what time is this? Okay? So
my master gardener friend Leo Borders.Leo is going to be giving a talk
at nine o'clock till ten o'clock talkingabout falling the garden, falling the landscape,
and it'll be falling the landscape.My doctor asked me this week if
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I had fallen lately, TONI Iwas falling into fall Okay, So anyway,
really nice, a really nice,a really nice home gardener educational program
this morning at the l s UAccident Botanic Gardens nine to ten Basic Gardening,
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no charge, no registration. Willthere be cookies? I hope there's
snacks and cookies. And then ifyou went into Bonzai, you can run
by the head. You can runby the Baton Rouge Garden Center at Independence
Park. And the Bonzai show istoday and tomorrow eleven am to four pm.
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And some of the Bonzi experts willgive a demonstration today at one o'clock
and then also a demonstration tomorrow atone o'clock. And there's no admission fee.
Where was that again? That's thegarden garden Baton Rouge Garden Center at
Independence Park, bon Size Society.And then if you live across the river,
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like in New Roads, you cancome to the library and New Roads
and hear me talk at ten amon Monday morning. Plants from the garden
center, benches and products from thegarden on her shelf, and I will
answer. I will answer all ofyour questions unless you're horticulturalist Buttstrews and then
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he can you know, will therebe cookies? I have it. I've
sent an inquiry about that and nobodyhas told me so. Anyway, New
Roads on Monday morning at ten o'clockand at the librarian. That's another free
program. So there's all kinds ofI could sit in gardening events and educational
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programs to go to. Can Isit improve your green thumb? Can I
sit in the back? You can? You can? You can throw things?
Sure? Oh I'm not there.You can't throw things. You can
do the wave. So nine toten this morning, right at just fall
gardening. Excellent time for that,right the Bond's eye is wear and win
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again the Baton Rooge Garden Center inIndependence Park. And that's eleven to four
today, eight and eleven to fourtomorrow. Oh wow, two days.
And then you are in New Roadsat the library on Monday, Monday.
There you go. Everybody, writethat down, get your weekend planned out?
Yes, what if they wanted tocall because they didn't get all that
information? What would they do?Annaclair they can call us A six that's
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fur nine nine w j w Ocould they do that? If they had
like gardening questions right now? Yeah? Do you have any gardening questions right
now? Yeah? Why did Iknow you did? Wow? I am
what you got? Every show?Why would you put right? Why would
you put out rye grass? Andthen why wouldn't you I'll do why you
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do the why not? Okay?Okay, So do you want to do
why? I'll do what I'll do? Why first? Okay? So we
have an established lawn and we're goingto oversee that with rye grass. Yes,
okay, Well we can start withthat. Okay. I have always
been of the opinion, and actuallyI this is a question that I actually
gave her because I was interested inyour response that you had a couple of
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shows to go on this. Thereare two types of rye grass. To
start out, there is the allrye grass is annual in baton rouge.
Even though some of it is termedperennial riegrass, it does not return her.
If it returns, it's very veryweak return on it. So what
we at Clegg's do is we havewhat we call annual ride grass, which
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is your typical coarse, taller growingryegrass, and then we sell what we
call dwarf annual, which a lotof people do call perennial, which again
I just said, is not perennial. Here. That is a shorter grower,
finer texture. I have always beenunder the impression that that the shorter
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growing that dwarf annual actually helps insulatethe grass that it's around. So if
we have a real cold, hardwinter, there is some insulation. Also
that root system gets out, gettingfibers in there helps keep your soil texture
looser than normal, and plus itgives you a nice, pretty green lawn
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all winter long. But you sayno, Well, I said no a
few weeks ago, because that dwarffor annual rye grass, which I call
perennial red grass, Yeah, ithangs on a longer into the spring,
and as your warm season centipedge grassor your warm season Saint Augustine grass,
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it is trying to start growing thatperennial rye grass is competing with it,
so you have a slower re emergenceof your warm season lawn in the spring.
Okay, I mean, is therea possibility of like the week cocktail
that we use and recommend strongly offspring long. Anybody that listens to this
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show has heard us talk about theweek cocktail. Won't the atrozine has some
effect on that as far as gettingrid of that, Yeah, if you
need, absolutely absolutely yes. Soif that is a concern, so you
can kind of push it out withsome mattressine if you would like to go
that route. A fertilization affect itat all? I mean, would let
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me rephrase my question aut fertilization inthe spring. If you put out let's
just use your word, perennial progress, would that affect the timing of your
spring fertilization on your lawn? Ithink I would do the normal fertilizer time.
Curious, and I'm just worried aboutthe heat and drought stress lawns,
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and in Louisiana right now, it'sa huge issue, and I just think
overseating it's going to stress the lawneven more. That's that's just I mean,
I'm so I enjoy having our conversationsvery much. You know again,
I'm concerned, and actually tomorrow morning. I was going to do it this
morning, but the rain has adjusteda little bit, so I'm gonna do
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it to my I'm actually gonna putout regular ride grass in my backyard.
The reason being I have two largedogs. Now, yes, and with
all the I'm gonna say mortality,with all the death of because of Virginia
button weed, and because of thedrought and because of the heat, I'm
scared of mud. And so Iwill be putting out rye grass in my
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backyard where the dogs are, justto help prevent the mud. Now,
I would not use and if I'min correct here, please correct me out.
I am going to use the courserfaster growing because I am going to
have wear and tear on that asopposed to the perennial I don't think could
recover from there. Actually I likethat idea, no doubt. So Yeah,
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if you have so basically what we'resaying, then if I again paraphrases
incorrectly, if you have a bareground area or a high traffic area that
you're concerned about mud things like that, the coarse rye grass annual rye grass
would be a good opportunity. Youare somewhat concerned about doing the overseating of
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existing lawns because of the current stressthat has been on it. If you
do decide to do that just tohave the green lawn, maybe maybe work
with the weed cocktail next spring.Absolute to push that out quicker, so
you're Saint Augustine centipede can recover.And I've been getting a lot of inquiries
the last few weeks about, youknow, the bare ground areas, the
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new construction areas. Right, it'snot the time, not the time of
the year to be oh knowing warmseason lawns. I mean you can put
outside right now that you're not goingto do seeds. We have a phone
call to put some put that rightgrass out, hold your soil. Yes,
sir, I'm going to go tothe caller. Why don't you go
to the caller. Good morning,Philip, Welcome to WJBO Lawn and Garden
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Show. How many we help youtoday? Good morning, So, good
morning Philip. Good morning. Howy'all doing, Doc? Look I called
you because, uh, the timegot away from me. Those crate myrtles
I've been nursing. Oh yeah,thoseke mardles. Okay, yeah, okay,
they I kept all the suckers offof them, everything up to about
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eight feet duck. Okay, Nowthey're gone dorming on me and I'm just
one of those. I guess Ishould leave them alone because if I start
cutting, I don't know whether it'sdead or alive anymore. I mean I
don't Philip, I'm this butcher fromClegg's. I'm not looking we take over
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for Allen. But you can taketake your fingernail, take your the blade
of your pruner and scratch the stem. Don't I mean, don't gouge into
it, but scratch a little bit. If it's bright green, that stem
is alive. If you're trying toremove deadwood. Just if you get to
an area where it has a dullyellowish color or even a brown color,
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that is dead tissue and there isno reason not to prune that out at
this time of year. Remove ofthe suckers. To me, anytime you
have a sucker on a crape myrtle, I would like I suggest strongly get
rid of it, because it's takingenergy from the tree you want. Also,
another issue we have in crape myrtlesis what we call water shoots.
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It's becoming more and more of aproblem with some of the new arboretum releases.
What it'll be is it's a stemor a branch that shoots straight up
in the air, and typically theydon't bloom as well as the other tissue,
and those are another thing that causesa weakening of the tree because it's
taking energy out. So if youhave water shoots, if you have suckers,
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if you have what you know isdeadwood on your tree, I would
I would recommend getting rid of itnow. Oh yeah, that all needs
to be done right now. Andyou can probably easily identify what's deadwood and
what's live. Would one deadwood ashow? Okay, okay, we're deadwood?
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Sound off the cote, all right. Yeah. I was worried.
I was worried that I wouldn't beable to uh with them going dorm and
I didn't know if when they wentdormant, they they lost that greenness,
no skin, no, no,okay. And then I really appreciate what
Butcher told me about the water shoes, because this, of course is not
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the ones in the front yard thatI'm trying to say, but the ones
in the backyard. I have twoof them in the backyard that are the
same species, and one of themmake those water shoes all the time.
So I'm so glad just to getin there with to shovel and cut them
out. Sounds good, all right, Thanks, thank you, thank you.
Phillow. Thank you, and wehave another caller, but we have
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other lines they could call them onright. Yeah, So if they wanted
to get in the line, whatwould they do? You could call us
out four six, that's for ninenine w JBO. Should we go to
the caller? Sure? All right, Good morning, SUSI welcome to wjba's
lawn and gardens. How may areyou happy today? Yes, I have
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a practice of taking young citrus treesand growing them in over large pots twenty
inch or so. I have ared orange tree that I've been babying in
a pot in and out during thewinter, and it's got a four inch
trunck now, and I believe itneeds to find its permanent home due to
the drought and full conditions. ShouldI plant it in the normal time mid
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November, maybe early December, orwait till spring. Ideally, my answer
on a plant that large would beto get it in the ground as soon
as you can. However, Susie, there is absolutely no way unless you
can get a backo you're going tobe able to dig a hole to plant
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that right now? It is.It is just unbelieved. I tried to
turn a raised area in our vegetablegarden to plant some kale a couple of
weeks ago, and it was difficult, even in an existing prepared garden bed
to actually get it. Broke up. You've you've babied them this long.
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Let's wait to if we start gettingthis rain. They're talking about up to
two inches of rain Monday, it'sgoing to take a couple of those to
get this ground where you can evenwork in it. Again, from the
standpoint of just the physical ability toplant it, I don't think you're going
to be able to Okay, evensuper soaking the you know area around where
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I out dig a twot two anda half foot hole, would that help
any Definitely, wait till wait tillspring. Truth of the matter is,
at this point, I think Iwould wait till spring. One other concern
and help me out with this.I know you watched the weather. More
from what we're hearing, it isgoing to be we're going to have have
a couple of very brutal parts tothis winter. I don't know if it's
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La Nina, Nino, lock Roca, or whatever it is, but I've
heard we're going to have a relativelytough, uh winter. So I think
at this point, since you've babiedit this long, let's go ahead and
go through one more winter before weplan it. Okay, thank you very
much. It's it's a little confusednow it's actually growing fruit. So yeah,
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a strange it has between between allthe cold snaps and all the heat
and all the drought it has we'vegot, we're even confused. So yes,
how do we expect the trees notto be? Thanks for Caryl Susy,
Thank you. Yeah, citrus havehad it rough last two or three
years? Yes, Who am I? Who am I? You're Alan Owens?
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Yes? Concerned? Why the commercehave I been replaced at Clegg's?
They said there was professionals. Oh, well you know that's Johnny Naylor.
Oh okay, shure, So youthink I am still employed? I believe
y'all. Well, we have twophone calls we need. But okay,
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let's see. Good morning, Tim, welcome to WJS on and go to
a show. How many we helpyou today? Yes, I have some
giant allocation that I got from youguys a couple of years ago, man,
about three years ago, and they'reabout The stalk itself is about four
and a half maybe five foot tall, and this past spring they only put
out small leaves. Now the leavesare gotten huge and they're up probably about
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ten feet. And I talked tosomeone there before and they said I could
cut that stalk off and plant thetop part and it would grow or keep
growing. I don't think so,h because I've been digging them up and
then planting them back when it getsyou know, when we get down to
the low temperatures, I go outthere and I dig them up. But
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I've had one now that's kind ofcurved out and gone back up exactly.
I don't think if you cut anallocation off, I don't think it re
sprouts from that the pups come upright right, yeah, right, yeah,
Now, because I had planted somebefore and covered them after they've gone
through the winter, and I've gottenall the pups off of them where I've
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got, yeah, probably about tenpuffs that are growing great. Good.
But you got there was some confusionon your question. No, you if
you cut an allocation off, youcan't root that allocation. In fact,
the plant that you cut off itselfis dead. However, that usually forces
pupps and that's how you propagate those. But no, you can't. You
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can't replant what you cut off,because I was going to go out there
before the frost or the freeze andI was going to cut them off and
plant them now the top parts.No, yeah, that won't work at
all, sir. So just continueto dig them up, yes, sir,
my greenhouse and planning them back outin the spring. That's it.
And how can I keep them fromlike all summer? I know it was
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hot, but I kept them watered, but they had small leaves coming out.
That's probably maybe more of a fertilizationissue than anything else. Just when
you if you're planting them back,when you plant them back in the spring,
use a good root stimulator, andthen as they get established, go
to adult food something like Grower Specialor the fertile on tree and shrub food.
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If I'm not mistaken, they're fairlyheavy feeders. Oh yeah, they
And when you get something that largethat needs at salts on them the last
be careful and they got them upbigger, kind of grew out. Be
careful using epsence salt. It's somethingthat we recommend on citrus, on hollis
(20:56):
a lot of times. On sagopalms. I think I said citrus once
a year at the most is allyou want to do. Okay, good,
because actually, if you put toomuch magnesium sulfate out there, you
could eventually get a magnesium toxicity.So we want to we want to be
we want to do it, butwe don't want to overdo it, which
(21:18):
it sounds like. And I doit once a year and we just put
the granules out on the ground andI water them in real good and that's
it. That's it, that's it. All right, Thanks for the call,
Tim, I appreciate it. Allright, all right, well we
have another caller. Let's go doit. Okay, let's keep this so
if you want to call, callit four nine five two six is for
(21:41):
nine nine w JBO. Good morning, Bell, Welcome to w jbo's London
Garden Show. How may we helpyou today? Hi, I was thinking
about getting a strawberry plant, andI was wondering if it's like still okay,
when should I plant it. Westill have a few strawberry plants the
store. You could definitely plant themright now. With strawberry plants, you'll
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be using what we call bear roots, so you're going to be buying a
plant that does not have any dirtaround it, and you will need to
get it into the ground relatively quickly, so it would be important to have
your area ready for it. Alot of people will do strawberries this time
of year in pots, which makesit real easy too. So and in
(22:25):
the spring, usually starting about February, we'll actually be selling strawberry plants in
and those will actually have been rooted. So you can do it either way.
If you want to do it now, you need to do it pretty
quick and you will be doing itwith bear root plants. If you want
to wait, you can do itin say late January, early February,
and you would actually be planting plantsthen and picking strawberries probably four to six
(22:48):
weeks after you plant. Okay,thank you, Hey, thanks for the
call. Bell. Good morning,Richard. Welcome to w jbo's Lon and
Garden Show. How may we helpyou today? Hey, Hey, i
have a lot of them, alot of leaves in my yard. I'm
kind of curious. Over the yearsI've left them in my backyard and all
(23:10):
water. Sometimes i'm motion, SometimesI rank them, sometimes I just leave
them my own winter. What's thegood, bad and ugly with leaves?
What's the best way to handle alot of leaves. As far as I'm
concerned, I don't like leaving theintact leaf on lawns. It can mat
(23:33):
up, it can cause you know, blockage of sun, it can hold
in moisture, creating fungel issues.Uh, there's all sorts of issues with
again, a complete leaf. Iam of the opinion if you don't want
to collect the leaves, mulch them, create a compost pile with them,
(23:55):
your best thing is to periodically runover them with the moa and chop them
up. Smaller pieces will deteriorate quickerand will be an organic material being added
to the soil underneath your lawn,which in the long run is beneficial.
So I guess mine would be toeither remove the leaves and put them into
(24:17):
a composting situation to be used inflower beds or vegetable gardens, or chop
them up into smaller particles that willdeteriorate quickly in the lawn. And that's
what I usually recommend. Also,and if you have a large enough lawn
or like a perimeter area of yourlandscape, you can always just rake or
blow your leaves over into that kindof area. Underneath trees. You know,
(24:45):
there are some advocates out there thatsay we want to leave every leaf
on the ground because they benefit firefliesand other beneficial insects, but also some
cycle of life thing as far asustrient replacement into the soil. I mean
the leaves. You know, wefertilize to create leaves. Well, yeah,
(25:07):
you know, it's nothing ever goesaway. All matter changes forms,
but all matter remains in some form. So the nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium
that are taken up into leaves asthey deteriorate on the ground can be released
back into the soil. So there'sI don't I used to be when I
(25:27):
was younger and had a lot moreenergy. You rake it, I'll take
it. I drive around bat androuge and pick up leaf bags, and
I would use it. You know, we have a relatively expansive, expansive
backyard that I would use it asmulching my wife's flower beds. So no,
there's benefits to the leaves. Youknow, if you don't, if
you don't want to compost again,just run over them with your mower,
(25:49):
chop them up a little bit andlet that go back into the soil.
That sounds good. All right,thank you, thank you Richard. That
opens up phone lines at four twosix four nine. W JBO I got
a question before you do the withthe podcast, how do people know about
(26:11):
the podcast if they aren't listening tothe show, And if they're listening to
the show, why would they listento the podcast? Oh, to catch
all this information and write it downin case we're going too fast. That's
an excellent idea, okay. Andthen like, if you forgot to listen
to last week's show, you cango and see. Oh but what Bill
(26:33):
Rowntree said, that's right, especiallywhat Bill said, especially how would they
do that podcast thing, Jeremy,they would get the podcasting. Oh okay.
And then I go to wjbo's websiteand it's right there too. And
I just listened to do anything tolike, what is it? Am I
going to say the wrong one?If I say clear channel? Yes?
(26:56):
Okay? You want me to takeover from me? Please? We're struggling
here, Well, why you're doingfine with callers? Uh? You can
download the iHeart app. It's afree and available in all you know.
All I was trying to go whatthey used to say back in the day,
like, you know, available inall major stores, you know,
(27:17):
available in your local in your friendlyneighborhood app store. You can listen to
any of our podcasts there. Andluckily, you said, how do people
find it? Once you listen toit, the app will happily remind you
when a new episode has landed.I get it every week saying, hey,
there's a new episode. Don't fallbehind. Cool. So it's actually
neat and honestly, you know,when you search I try to make it
(27:40):
that when you search baton Rouge lawnGarden, hopefully it comes up, you
know. And you can't listen tolike ones from a while back. Yeah,
you can see how wrong you've beenfor years long. So we could
listen to the one from Wednesday?Which one on Wednesday? Oh, we
didn't do one on Wednesday. No, so we can't listen to it on
Wednesday. Well, the one inyour head you can listen to whenever you
(28:02):
want. But well, you knowwhat if I could just stick a USB
drive in there and not there,Yeah, let's they take us back and
Claire bring us back to reality.And also if you don't feel if you
like, don't want to call in, there's like a talkback mic where you
can like press it and then askyour question. Even I forgot about that.
(28:25):
Yeah, mister Jeremio, like playand we can respond to need date
for a non technology. Yeah exactly. So the best way, though,
is to give us a call foryes, Okay. That way you can
ask more questions if you have aquestion about what we're trying, because if
we were like to confuse them,confuse them, I'm lost. Oh,
(28:48):
we have a few minutes here.Do you have any other questions? I
do, whyon't we hit one ofthem? Can we still plant a garden?
And if so, what can weplant in that garden? Actually,
that is an excellent timely question.I have been holding people off. Yes,
and I am now full go guarden. It's full speed ahead right now.
(29:10):
Yeah, we're supposed to. Ihope this rain hits Monday, but
we've cooled off. The biggest thingwas our temperatures. When you have the
temperatures we were having a lot ofyour coal crops, your winter crops,
your lettuces especially will do what's calledbolting. They will go to flour.
Once a plant goes to flour,especially lettuce, is toast. There's nothing
(29:32):
you can do to. You can'tcut that out and get it to revert
back. It's done. I don'tthink, I hope anyway, that we're
not going to get anywhere into thosetemperature situations from here on out. I
actually, if anything, your broccoli, your cabbat, your cayliflower, your
kale, your lettuce, all yourseed crops, your radishes, carrots,
(29:56):
beets, turn ups, all ofthat type stuff. I'm good to go
on all of it. The onlything in Alan helped me out here.
I'm not sure about spinach yet,don't you brings up a question? I
think Antaclair had that asked me onthe way over here. It's all temperatures.
Yes, I haven't checked soil temperatureslately. Spinach needs is cooler,
(30:21):
yes, you in the front row. I actually have a question because you
mentioned the temperature, and even thoughour temperature is cool for this time of
year, the air quotes there howwhat would be too warm if that?
Like you said, it's okay toplant now because temperatures have cooled, But
if how what would be the dangerwarm up zone? Like if we somehow
(30:41):
got back into the nineties regular rightexactly? Oh man, you're learning stuff
here. No, that was avery good question. I don't think we
may hit ninety. I hope not. But most of our high temperatures now
are going to be mid eighties atthe most exactly, and you're cooling nine.
In fact, it was a verynice morning that I woke out,
(31:03):
and by not going into the nineties, by staying in the low eighties,
especially on an overcast day, buteven on sunny days, your soil temperatures
don't have a chance to really increasethat much. And then the cooler night
temperatures, if there is any increase, bring it back down. And your
cold crops spinached in particular, needsa cooler soil temperatures, needs it in
(31:27):
the low seventies to really germinate theseed. I tell people all the time,
if you have an avid gardener inyour family, whether it be a
spouse, a child, hopefully aparent, whatever, soil thermometer is one
of the most important tools that thatperson can have in their gardening bag.
(31:51):
Seed germination is so often as grassywe're talking about that that's critical. It's
critical to have proper soil temperatures.Piece of bermuda. What is it?
What is soil temperature? Seventy fiveis yeah, seventy two to seventy five,
right, you know, I justtalked about spinach seeds. We had
a question about betting plants, pansies. We have an issue with rise up,
(32:16):
Tony, I think is how yousay it right, And that organism
goes dormant once our soil temperatures gobelow a certain temperature. So a lot
of people, you know, plantpansies. When that soil temperature is still
real hot, the plant will belightned and healthy, and all of a
sudden it droops over. Well,if you look at the soil line,
it's brown where that organism is attackedit. But the forecast for the next
(32:40):
ten days is lows in the fifties, highs in the mid to upper sixties.
I do see a couple of seventytwo's in there. So you know,
let's get some rain Monday and Tuesday, and you know the next couple
of weeks before Thanksgiving, get allyour cool seasoned vegetables in the ground,
and uh and we should be good. And broccoli, cabbage and kyliflower they
(33:06):
can handle more than Again, Ikeep going back to let us and even
I've seen it in turn ups andsome of those where we get at least
a little bit of warm up,it goes to bolt ye flowering. But
typically your broccoli they can stand afew days before we start to have issues,
especially in a younger stage like theyare. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
And like Bush was saying earlier,we do see in the coming month
(33:30):
or two weather patterns that we're goingto start getting some more regular rain.
We're going to have average temperatures forthis time of year, and it you
know, cool seasoned vegetables grow great, grow great through the winter in battle
Reason in bat Rouge until we getthe slobber knocker slobber knocker coal events and
(33:52):
that and that's in the teens,which we've had, you know, and
we're a week the last couple ofwinters here here and we're going have it
again. Yeah uh huh yeah yeahanyway, but good question. Yes,
get out plant your vegetables. Wehave a great selection at all four clubs
locations. They're really looking good too. One of my friends took a picture
of all the vegetables the vegetable tableat Dinim this week and send it to
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me. In Man, those lookgood. Seggins looks better. Good morning,
see you welcome to wgbus Lon andgarden. How may we help you
today? I had a question aboutfigs and treesing particularly. We had a
pretty good freezer in Livingston Parish.My outside thermometer read twenty nine degrees right
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and and there was some fruit onit, still green fruits. So first
should we just cut that off andtoasted or what should we do with that
fruit? Well, there were Yeah, there was some cold weather that kind
of got foliage on the fig treesthis late in the year. Those figs
are not going to mature. Thefruit's not so you could leave it on
(34:58):
the tree or you could take itoff. It doesn't really matter. Okay.
My second question is you mentioned gettingdown into the teams and all they
did it last year and damage thefigs. Should I be covering them when
it freezes or is there a pointwhere night should cover them? Figs can
Figs can get substantial dam stem damageanytime you have a one at the beginning
(35:23):
of it. The main thing thatand pull up the soapbox right here.
Plants, if you're protecting your plant, if you're covering your plant, just
putting a cover over the top ofit really does absolutely no good. You
either have to secure that cover tothe ground, so we're trapping ground heat,
(35:44):
or put some type of an artificialheat source inside of that covering,
be it a heat lamp something likethat. You know, the way I
explain it to people is when youget in bed at night and your sheets
are real cold, and then maybefifteen maybe five minutes later they're warm unless
you have an electric blanket, yourbody heat is what heated up those blankets.
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Plants don't give off any heat.They do not have a metabolism like
mammals do. So we have gotto put a heat source or at a
minimum trap the ground heat for coveringto do any protection on any plant.
So yes, if we're gonna havea one in the temperature number, I
would definitely either expect to have somesevere stem damage on figs or get them
(36:34):
covered up. Okay, great,thank you, all right, thank you,
Steve. And that again I apologizefor yanking the soapbox here. I
mean, how often do you drivedown the street when we have these temperatures
and you see that blue tarp drapedover the top and tied around the stem.
It looks like a blue lollipop outin these people's pop a blanket over
(36:58):
a plant where you got to bringyour cover to the ground. Yes.
Then also I tell people whenever Ihave to cover something, what I do
is I find an old sheet oran old blanket. I put that over
first. Then I put my tarpover the top of that, because you
don't want any type of a viscqueen or plastic material touching that plant,
(37:22):
because even if you have an artificialheat source, you're going to lose that
outer layer if you do because ofthat contact with the visc queen or any
type of the plastic material. Soif you just put even a thin thin
sheet underneath there, you'll get alot more protection that way. And it
seems like with the first you know, significant coal spell, every file now
(37:45):
everybody has a mad rush to protectevery landscape plant in their in their garden
or landscape, and we just haveto realize we have warm seasoned plants and
we have cool seasoned plants. Andsure, or if you want to make
the effort and try your save yourcolius and begonias for another couple of weeks,
(38:06):
cover them, but you know,let nature take its course and take
out those plants and put your coolseason coloring in afterwards. And there's certain
plants in your landscape that you know, you are zoned much higher than we
are here. Boxwoods, for themost part in the ground are going to
be relatively safe. Most of yourhollies should be relatively safe. What we're
(38:30):
worried, What I'm more worried aboutin my landscape is the citrus trees.
Yes, I don't worry about hibiscus. I mean I can turn around and
buy a high biscus for fifteen bucks. It's going to be a lot better.
You know, it's going to probablybe blooming when I buy it in
mark Ables. The hibiscus that Itry to cover and protect is going to
(38:51):
look like you know what at theend of the season. It's going to
delay the blooming. So a lotof your tropical plants. But yeah,
citrus of vegetable gar and if Ihave it out there and we're going to
get substantial cold a lot of times, I'll try to do some protection on
those. But for the most part, most of our shrubs around here really
don't need protection. Right. Peopleare asking about covering their camellias and everything,
(39:17):
and know, you know, butjust said what shrubs we don't need
to cover, and there's very fewshrubs that we need to protect from cold
weather. Okay, that's a great, great I got a question for you.
Okay, if you have and camillius, the sanquas are blooming right now.
If you're driving around town seeing pinkeven some dark pink red blooms,
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white blooms, those are going tobe camellias's sanquis in this earlier spring,
later winter January February, that's whenwe get Camellia japonica blooms. Question to
actual question, Okay, trying wouldit benefit the damage to Camellia blossoms in
(39:58):
that time period. Is that frostdamage or is that temperature damage. I'm
talking about the blooms. It's usuallydamaged when we get twenty eight, twenty
nine thirty degrees or lower. Soit is damaged by the cold, not
necessarily frostright. So if we wantedto protect those blooms, we would need
to protect the plant with the heat. So or exactly exactly, And yeah,
(40:21):
and you're just you know, onyour camellias, and the sink was
your pondica's and the sink was You'reyou're getting damaged to you're fully open flowers.
You're partially open flowers. In extremetemples, you're getting damaged to the
butts. They're showing college think,great point, you're not harming the plant,
but you know you have that plant, so you're just losing flowers anywhere
(40:44):
from a couple of days to twoor three weeks, depending on the degree
of the cold and the stage ofthe butd or flower development. I was
curious and thank you for clearing thatup. I didn't know if it was
the actual temperature. It was morefrost damage. But wow, Chris,
trees are arriving at Clegg's Nursery.We got our Noble Firs yesterday. I
was very very pleased. They werevery heavy coming off the truck, which
(41:07):
means there's a lot of moisture inthose trees. Those are looking pretty fresh.
Fraser Firs I believe are arriving Monday, if I'm not mistaken. Have
some issues with Point Settus this year. I'm hearing the temperatures caused some growing
issues. Think about what the temperaturewas in September. A lot of heat
delay on Points set is. Ineed to check our crop at Greenwell Springs
(41:30):
Road. Most of the six anda half inch. I think are doing
okay. I heard that we arehaving some issues with some of the larger
ones. Yes again, I'm hearingissues from several of the large points set
of growers. Maybe a slight shortageon those anyway. End of the show.
Thank you, Anna, Clara,Thank you doctor Alan Owen. Sir,
your my name is Butcherrews. I'mwith Kelegg's Nursery for locations in Baton
(41:52):
Rouge. Come by and visit withus. Greenhouses are full of vetting,
plants, vegetables. You've been listeningto news radio eleven fifty wjbo's Wanna Garden
Show. We will see you nextweekend.
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