WCS: State Fair Edition 2025! Kelly Pannek and Lee Stecklein! Andrew Dukowitz and Tom Schreier!

Max and Brett are joined by Frost players Kelly Pannek and 
Lee Stecklein, and then it's a Zone Coverage show with Andrew Dukowitz and Tom Schreier!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
A morning cochi wah and monjure.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Whatever language you're speaking, wherever you're at in the world,
scratch that, wherever you're at in the universe, humans and
aliens alike, you are tuned into what we affectionately call
the worst case scenario live from.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
The Minnesota State Fair. We have a just massive crowd.
I mean it's overflowing over here.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Brett Blakemore, you should have seen the amount of people
when Dan wrapped up. They're just like, all right, we're going.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
It was like, all right, nothing's after this, right.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
It's sad.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Nice nice of there, but these are the die hards
right here out.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
In the audience. We appreciate y'all.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
This is the worst case scenario live from the State
Fair here on k FA and extended edition eleven to
one and a champion Ship edition as we have Lee
Steckline and Kelly Panic of the Minnesota Frost, the reigning
defending Walter Cup and champions.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
How y'all doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
You're great, Thanks for joining us out here at the
Minnesota Safer.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
You guys are.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Both Minnesotans, right, so this is not your your first
day for you guys, are vets right?

Speaker 6 (01:10):
No, maybe first day where it's like that's perfect though, right,
this is one of the better days.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
What I know, Seriously, it's especially with a fro out here. Man,
it's like, dang, So, what's your guys' favorite fair activity
to do when you're out here? Favorite food, favorite fair activity?

Speaker 7 (01:25):
I love a classic proano pup midway rides. I haven't
been here in a minute now, so and we've just
been wandering round today, which has been nice again, like
weather makes it a total Seriously, I.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Feel like I'm a big whatever Giggles got new go
to this year. They're pretty good again. I feel like
last year they might have taking a little dip. This
year they're back.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
They're back, They're back. They got the real supply back
in the shipment is back in. What if you guys
had to recommend one thing for someone that's never been
to the stafer? What are you recommending?

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Oh gosh, why is my mind doing so blank? I mean,
the fried pickles are a staples. I think, the cheese
curds I think might be.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Have you guys had these homish donuts? Have you seen
the line for that freaking stuff?

Speaker 6 (02:09):
I'm trying to get in line.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a out of control.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Though it's like two hours.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
There was one. I think last year. It might have
been when we were walking around with the walter Cup,
and there might not have been a line like.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I don't really you got to take it.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
It might have been full at that point. But I
think people are jumping right.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
In right just to at least put them in the pocket,
bring it home or something for later.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Right, so you guys bring the walter Cup around this
time too or not? We haven't.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
I think it's traveling the world right now?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Oh okay? Is it the same deal as a Stanley.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
There's like a protector and everything that follows it around
and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
If not, there should be.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
Right Yeah, I think sometimes yes, I don't know every time,
but it goes teammates to teammate, and I guess I
don't know. If someone troubles with it, it feels.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
I don't think so. I think it just could shifted
one of our teammates. But I think Nicole when it
came to was it when it came to Colorad or
someone rapped on her door set or what are our coaches?
And ride the ups guy dropped off the big box
and he was like, you want to see what's in it,
and he showed the ups guy and it's Walter cup.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
He's like, whoa, that's really funny. Well, hopefully you don't
get one of those ups guys that just like rugs
it right out of the car.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
It's pretty heavy.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
It's I think it weighs about the same as a
Stanley cup really, like thirty pounds.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oh dang, So we got to hoist in it.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
When when you first what was that feeling like when
you first got your hands on on the walter cup?

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Like, when was it? Did it kind of when you
grabbed it?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Was it kind of like oh, like, well you're not
anticipating how heavy it was or what was that? What
was that moment like finally getting to hoist that that
walter cup?

Speaker 6 (03:43):
I think the first year, so our captain Kendall coins
go Field, like she is just such a important person
for our team and our league, so I want to
watch her be the first player to ever lift it.
Was honestly cooler than lifting it myself. Yeah, Lee, I
think when I go to that as well, but every
single person, like she passed it to Lee and Kendall
was like, that's head and Lee you could see oh,
that's like you could see every person you first left.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
You're like, oh, You're like I.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Got it, but then you feel the way of it
and you're like, oh, yeah they make business.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Now you guys have been teammates even before you're on
the Frost right on the international level. So kind of
like go through each of you, like, what's your hockey
journey leading up to this point, how did you get involved?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
How did it become like a passion for you?

Speaker 7 (04:24):
I mean our journey's been pretty similar luckily. Like we said,
we're both from Minnesota, grew up playing state high school hockey.
We're both go first, so we got to play together
two and then we're lucky enough to make the US
national team again sometime in college and have been fortunate
to keep making teams until this league. And now we
get to play together again with the Frost.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
I feel like I just keep falling Lee a little bit.
Yeah two years ago, not intentionally at first, but now
maybe intentionally. So yeah, I'm the only difference, Like she
went to a public school.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
I went to private school.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Pinky's up.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
You gotta get out in front of it, you know,
proud night, It's like eight mile when and just starts
listening to all this stuff, but you know it's like
you gotta you gotta get out.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
In front of it. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
And so then I mean, like she was two years
ahead at Minnesota ended up being only one I think
by the under I don't even know what worked out,
and she made that ASH team first, and then I
try to do it because we did it.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I think I signed with.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
The Frost first, though you did.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
I followed you, She followed me here.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
She was like.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Kelly's in that's one.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Weren't you You guys were two of the first members
of the Frost, were you not?

Speaker 8 (05:32):
Yeah? First thing one too?

Speaker 9 (05:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yeah, oh dang here everyone else off.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I guess, right, what was that kind of moment like
when the as the p w h L is forming,
and like what was what was kind of that moment
like being like the inaugural the inaugural members of the
Minnesota Frost, I mean.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
Kind of crazy and hectic. You didn't know exactly how
it would go. We've been in Minnesota for so long,
but we knew there was going to be a draft
and you might be somewhere else. So I think for me,
get that call from the Frost, you know, offering a
spot that you could sign kind of ahead of that draft, right,
really lucky. I felt like, I'm very fortunate because this
is exactly.

Speaker 8 (06:09):
Where I'd want to play.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean there's only any eighteen players that got
picked before the draft, and it was interesting, like seeing
a league being built from like the ground floor. Yeah,
And I think that was an interesting piece of it.
And to have the kind of pre draft signing opportunities,
like they said, I don't think I would have. I
didn't get called by any other teams before, so it
was kind of Minnesota or the.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Draft, and.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
It worked out to where, you know, it was a
great opportunity, and there is it's interesting that now, like
there's only so many people that have never like Ben draftics.
We had the expansion Draft this last night, so people
that weren't maybe in the first draft gotten up in
the second one. Like it's just it's all been kind
of crazy, but also really good opportunities as well.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
And how many of y'all that were drafted are from Minnesota.
I think Minnesota's got to be the leading state for
producing PWHL players, Right, thank you for that.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
There we go, that's right, Yeah, I mean I think
state wise, for sure, Minnesota is very high up there.
I felt like year one we had a lot of
Minnesota players. Yeah, and then since then it's kind of
d also because I think other teams are like, yeah,
we want some of the Soda players on our team, right,
and actually players that played on the Frost. They're like,
those players know how to win, so we'll take them.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
It's we're of the best of the best. Play.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
But I'm just a hockey poser. My friend Brett blakemore here,
he's an elite hockey.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Mike, I do enjoy the game. I'll ask this though,
is you know, it's a growing league, as you said,
and it's it's being built from the ground up. How
do the rival like you hear that a lot in
the NHL, Like, yeah, we we played the Blackhawks, you
know how many times a year, so we know them
and we don't like them. Your probably rivals with just everybody,
Like how does that like kind of bad blood build
over the season and season to season?

Speaker 8 (07:45):
Yeah, I mean each game is competitive.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
There have been six teams, there will be eight next year,
so like every game is intense.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
But it was interesting.

Speaker 7 (07:51):
I feel like year one and then going into your two,
you just start to find teams that you just hate playing.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
A little more or love playing.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
They're just a little bit more intense and competitive. And
then you'll be watching other teams play, like Montreal Boston.
Every time I watch those it's like, that's for sure
a rivalry, just like the NHL. It's like, how do
those things carry over? But I don't know who our
rival is.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
I think there's two.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
I mean Toronto probably, well everybody.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Championship, Yeah, Like there's always a little bit something with
Toronto just because both be played them twice and playoffs.
And I think it's interesting because like buildings come into
play to you, Like there's buildings like I actually really
like playing in Toronto. I think a lot of our
team shares that sentiment because we've had some great memories there.
And then there's other buildings that I'm not gonna name
that we don't always love to play. And part of

(08:37):
it is because they have great fans too, right, and
the fans are allowed and they feel like they're on
top of you. But I might put it on the
record here early and say Vancouver might be an early really,
you know it feels like they may have taken a
lot of our players. Okay, and you know it's great
for those players to have a new opportunity. And but yeah,
I think that one. I feel like all of us
got that one maybe.

Speaker 10 (08:57):
Marked out a little bit.

Speaker 8 (08:58):
Yeah, it made sense.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
They great players, but I'm still a little mad about it.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
So we're gonna see some hands thrown.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Against handmation there. If that is game one at the
excellent centers, we're raising our banner.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
That could be crazy. Yeah, that's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Now, I've seen the lot of like the miked up
videos and the kind of banter, But is there someone
that on the team or otherwise or one of you
two that is just like the chirps hit real, Like
we're not we're not being cute, we're not saying hello
like I'm gonna let you know that, like you better
keep your head up because we're coming. Is there anyone
on the team that is a really good chirper?

Speaker 7 (09:36):
I think last year I would have said Claire Thompson
if she doesn't.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Just funny like her funny.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Smart to Yeah, you're like it takes you just go
to fear out what she what she said and how
that was like kind of rude.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
But it's like the I've seen better hands on a clock.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
And a lot of times it's towards the ross.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's the worst feeling though, when someone gets you and
then you think of something like two minutes later and
you're like, oh, damn it, they.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Were they were just a little.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Tie Like that's me.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I should have said this, who's got the who's got
the worst taste in music on the team? Like if
someone passes them the Ox, you're like, oh, well, like.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
I'm too old. I don't know how in our locker.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Romo are on the older side, So that's part of it.
And I think, like I'm just I.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Like a lot of music, So yeah, it's too all
over the players.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
It's stressful. It's a stressful job being on the Ox.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
The younger one, right, It is a it is a
huge responsibility though, you got to set the vibes for
the whole team, yeah, and poaching staff everything you start.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Being in the season, it's kind of a feeling out
process and by the end, like it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Dialed in, right, Uh, Lee, I believe that you're you're
part of like the the players union kind of deal. Right, So, uh,
what what is next for the p w h L
as a whole.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
I mean, I think it's been really cool to be
a part of our PA and get to work with
the league as like we were new. We're building this
and we're figuring out a lot of stuff as we
go year to year. So to be a part of
the expansion and realize that they do want to expand
again I believe so it's going to be great for
women's hockey, but there's a lot to adjust, I think
in a shorter time spend than we initially would have predicted.

(11:16):
I think if you'd asked this year one, we would
have said we'll ride out the rest of the CBA
before anyone talks about expanding. So it's been exciting about
how quickly things have happened, but definitely faster than expected,
and we've had to kind of adjust a lot as
we do.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's a good time to have though, right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Exactly, more more women's hockey players getting to play after
college that the level is going to keep getting better
and better, and the fans I think like our product
and they they wanted to expand, they wanted to grow
they want more teams and more places. We've done the
Takeover Tour last year. We played in a bunch of
different cities, and our reception in every one of those
markets was insane. They all want a team, So it's

(11:55):
a really exciting time to be a part of it.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
If you guys had to pick a city that doesn't
have a team, where do you think do you think
you would want to see the PWHL expand.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
We one of our takeover games is in Denver and
there was like fifteen thousand people there. You know, I
think they might have been one of the first cities
that started like that, we want a team. Chant Okay,
that was pretty cool. So I think they're like, that's
a really I think fast growing market for girls hockey as.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Well, and that's a natural rivalry, especially with the Wild
and the Avalanche.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Right and the Wolves and Nuggets already.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Right, So then I think, and I think it's a
good little segue because the two new teams are so
far west that it's kind of another little stop in between.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
So I think that's what I would say.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
Yeah, I'd agree Denver would be sweet.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
When I was doing research for this, I don't know
if you guys have been to like your respective Wikipedias,
but like the accomplishment's tab is freaking nuts, Like it's
literally like longer than the rest of the whole Wikipedia. Like,
you guys have already accomplished so much in your career.
Is like what is left to accomplish that you still
want to achieve in your in your playing career.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
That's a good question.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
Well, me andly both actually wrote her own Wikipedia pages.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, none of it's fact.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Two time, Like African Tip, He's like, wait, hold on,
what a bitute?

Speaker 6 (13:07):
No, I think like there's just I can say for
myself that been really fortunate to be a part of
a lot of success, And I think that's such a
blessing to be at this point in my career and say,
like if anything happened, whether it was like an unforeseen
injury or something that ended your career, like I'd be
so pleased with what I've been able to do and
be a part of. But I also am severely competitive,

(13:28):
and I just like keep winning right and keep running
with people that you enjoy winning and doing it the
right way and being a part of it. I think
that's something that be both being able to be a
part of and so you know, to be a team
that wins three walter Cup championships center would be pretty sweet.
I think both of us want to be on the
next Olympic team and when another goal metal Like That's
something I'll never forget is losing in twenty twenty two

(13:48):
in Beijing and feeling just like we left so much
out there, and so to have the opportunity potentially, you
know it, got to make that team coming up in February,
that'd be a dream as well, for sure.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Is it a different kind of pressure playing on the
on the international level compared to I mean it's always pressure, right,
but it's a different kind of pressure when you represent
the whole country, right, Yeah, you don't.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Feel like you're representing the whole country.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah, that's just like media stuff that we put on
you guys. Yeah, and it.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Is really cool to be a part of Team usay,
like that is something that is like you are so
it takes you outside of your own sport and your
own self really, but.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
In the moment, you're just playing for your team, yeah, right,
the people around you. The Olympics, I think is the
that one is so much pressure, partly because it is
once every four years, Like you there's no guarantee you'll
be there in four years. So if your team loses
like we did in twenty twenty two, you're like, we
have to wait so long for another chance at that

(14:44):
and to get redemption.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
So that definitely adds I think a different yea.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
And like there is so much media at the Olympics,
and media from all over the world, and I mean
huge market media and smaller market media, Like it's crazy
and I'll never forget that. After twenty eighteen Olympics, after
we one, you're walking through the mix own and it
was like turn turn and there's just people like they
could just pull you and start asking questions right and
not you might have no idea that they could not

(15:09):
even speak English necessarily. So there is an added element
of like the pressure and stress. But when it comes
down to the game, like it's it's one game, the
game is still the game game. I think every championship
a part of because our phl ones they come down
to just gonna win one game, right exactly.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's not a bad spot this year either because it's
you don't have to wait much longer, was it Italy? Yeah, Yeah,
that's gonna be.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Nice Italy in February.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
So no, you guys kind of mentioned like how the
how you are the team has like expanded faster kind
of than you thought. The whole league is kind of
blown up faster than you thought. And you guys mean
a lot to a lot of young people here in
the Twin Cities. Like what's like the craziest fan interactions
you guys have had so far?

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Well, some of them might be out there, so we can't.
I mean it's like pretty crazy just in general, like
having like a trading card, like that's a while, it's
got to be right.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Ever, would have thought, are you guys in like the
games and stuff too? Like the like to.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Well, so it used to be just international for the
last like handful of years and they added the PWHL teams.
But I think the craziest like fan interaction is when
someone like has stuck their rob but like, oh I
have your tattoos, your signature tattoo.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
I'm like, oh, oh I didn't know that was happening. Okay, cool,
but ask for.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Questions they could now, so yeahs available.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Crazy just when we're at the X and the fans
how early they're there with signs and just righty they
want you know, they just are so into it so early.

Speaker 8 (16:40):
I don't think I've ever had that anywhere before. It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Or you could be like walking around the fair and
someone might like you walk by and you like, here's
someone shout your name and you're.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Like, what right?

Speaker 6 (16:50):
It doesn't happen real, And it's not like it's crazy.
Like I feel like we can blend in pretty well.
Sometimes you just don't. I guess.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
I don't blend well.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
No, We're a lot of blacks are just like I
just try to be incognito.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, how you guys feeling about this season heading into
the because you mentioned like there's like a lot of turnover,
a lot of how we feeling about the roster? How
are you feeling about becoming the three time walter Cup champions,
the only team to ever hold the Walter Cup.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
I mean, I'm feeling pretty good. It is it is
tough when you look at how many people we lost.
We lost some really important players who played huge roles
in both of these last season, so definitely a lot
of spots to fill. But I think our draft class
looks really great and the people we were able to
keep are incredible, and just the depth I think we'll
still be able to have is that's been crucial I
think for us, winning these past do just the depth

(17:40):
of our roster. So having that depth again will be really,
really hopefully helpful for a three games.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah, And I think like when you build a winning culture,
we still have a lot of pieces of it, Like
there are obviously were pieces that laugh likely said, but
we also kept a lot and I think that's really important.
I think you said it like no other teams twisted
the Walter Cup, and I think that mean something, And
it means as much as you make it for good
and for bad. Right, So if we sit there and
be like, yeah, we won, let's sweet, We're gonna win again, Like, No,

(18:07):
Like winning is hard, right, it's only gonna get harder
there's more teams, right, Like, there's harder to be hard
to make the playoffs this year because there's less spots
for our teams. So I think it's just kind of
keep building it and but also trusting like who we
have in our inner locker room and trusting the people
in our organization. And we're lucky to be surrounded by
not just great teammates, but also great staff and just
everyone is sell on board of supporting each other and

(18:28):
making it a great experience and ultimately hoping hopefully having
that lead to on nice results as well.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
I'm sure that it will. It would be.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
It would be you guys had to bring the balance
back to the Twin Cities because we're losing everything else,
so you guys should can just win the Walter Cup
every single year.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
So it's like a little bit more women's.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Like we're both obviously, like Lee won three national championships.
I was able to be a part two of them
at that point, Like the Links were winning all their championships,
so we were laughing. I think, like women's volleyball was amazing.
You're in college and like all the women's softball, like
everything was just going great for the women's sports. That
always felt that way, So we'd love to see some

(19:09):
some ment in sports though.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah, yeah, championship for sure.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Which out of the four of the men's the main four,
which one do you think is going to win the
first championship in this city? That feels like that's a
lot of that's more pressure than playing for the international What.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Do you think, sports girl? Yeah, I don't know, it
would be fun for the wild.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
The wild be fun.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
I think wild years off.

Speaker 8 (19:32):
Yeah, but the wild like that.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Roster is so exciting and just how young, and I think,
how prepare the hopefully resigning still I know, I think
I mean the Vikings, like it just would be so fun.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
I think that's the one where the state would be
the most lit is if.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah, it's just the most like global, right, the most
nationally recognized one, like I mean that, I mean, all
of them would be sweet, but like the celebri I
think for for the Super Bowl and then for also
a Stanley Cup, like that's pretty it'd be next level, yeah,
I think, and I mean football can say that.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, but let's hope we're celebrating you guys winning another
walter Cup following this season. Lee Steckline, Kelly Panic, thank
you so much for joining us on KFA and today
you guys are awesome.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to Worst Case Scenario Live from the Minnesota
State There max fully here alongside Brett Black, A Moulray
and Andrew Dukowitz of Zone coverage dot Com how are
you doing today, Andrew good Man?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm black and beautiful last time I checked. I've been
looking here, you know, I'm I know I'm still black.
I don't know if I'm I don't know if I'm
still beautiful, though, so I don't I.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Do, I do, I do indeed have a mike. I
don't know if the people can.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Hear me all of a sudden, people in the bleachers
are not.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Hello.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
People in the bleachers might get more than they asked for.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, that's what that's what happens.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
When you come to the worst case scenario, you might
become a part of the show.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
What's your name? I'm man Brandon Brandon? Are you?

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Are you a fan of the fan? Are you just
here to sit down for a sec?

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Both?

Speaker 9 (21:46):
I mean, I've been I've been listening to my dad
for a while and it's been a show that I've
been hearing for basketball and baseball going to and it's
just fun to be on the show.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I'll give you that five dollars for saying that compliment
after the show. Appreciate that. What do you want to
hear the worst case scenario? Talk about today? Man?

Speaker 9 (22:05):
I mean the biggest thing is Carson Wentz to the
Vikings the big one, but then probably just like the
big stuff for the Timberwolves stuff, so just all Minnesota
for sports.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
All right, Well, he said it kind of led him there.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
The Vikings did acquire quarterback Carson went shortly before the
show went on the air. This morning parted ways with
one Sam Howe. What was your favorite Sam Howe moment?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Bre Well, he eats like me and Corey Cove. So
I've always had a soft spot for Sam Howe. So
I'm a little disappointed that he's he's one of all,
he's one of He's a chicken finger guy. Oh pretty sure.
I'm like ninety percent sure that is the truth, So
grain of salt, but yeah, so I was disappointed, But yeah,
he was fine. For the Commanders, he was nothing. There's
a reason they went out and drafted, you know, their

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next quarterback. So right, he would have been a fine
stop gap. It just depends on who you want to
be that guy who can fill in for three games
if JJ McCarthy, God forbid, springs his wrist or something,
so and and Carson Wentz will be fine at that.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
And Carson that's kind of been his whole career outside
of the pre one year where he went crazy and
threw like forty touchdowns out of.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Nowhere and won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Right, he did well. He wasn't he was on the team.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
But on his Wikipedia page it does say.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Super Bowl Champions, Champions some super Bowl pedigree added to
that Vikings quarterback room.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
And I don't know about y'all. I do.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I've been I've gotten Max brosmeeritis, I've gotten Max.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
You've invested in the Brozem Brownstones.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I have the bros Brownstones.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
I like that, and again, it lets me keep my
Max Frozemer bit keep going. So I'm invested in the
Max Brosmer storyline. But it does make me feel a
little bit more comfortable to have a QB on the
roster that has more experience, you know, like as good
as Brozemer has been throughout this preseason, you kind of
want a guy that's that's going to be backing up.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
JJ that has some more experience, right, you.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Know, I've never actually thought about this, but there's a
there's two quarterbacks on the Vikings, Max and Brett, and
I think Bretts can cut So sorry Brett, but maybe
Max will stick around. Maybe it sounds like he might. Hopefully,
I thought so our hometown people succeed around here.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
By the way, can we just take a moment because
he's only been here for one year? He came from
what was it, New Hampshire, doesn't matter, started for the
Gophers for one year, and all of a sudden, one
of us.

Speaker 10 (24:33):
Crap, that's all you need to do.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Meanwhile, Dan Burrero has been hosting this show on the
fan for exactly longer than all of us have been alive.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Not one of us, never will be one of us.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
So I just I just love that Max Brosmer all
of a sudden, it is just one of just this
great story. I mean, right up there with that, I'm
feeling like from one of us, I'm here, he's front Detroit,
Lake's go crazy.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I mean that's breaking. Do we have the break sounder?
That's appreciate.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Easily. Andrew he hated the show.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
He feel about the quarterback situation.

Speaker 10 (25:11):
I mean, he said he wanted to talk about basketball.
He said he wanted to talk about the hoops, and
Carson wentz, let's talk about a backup the socks.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, they're out of there.

Speaker 10 (25:20):
They dipped out super Quich Now I am Minnesota. I
don't understand. Do we claim North Dakota, South Dakota, Dakodians
the Coda Dakotas, No.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
But they can. He is not one of us. Defect.
We don't claim them, but they can defect.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
Like what would Carson have to do to be one
of us?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Though?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Apparently play game for the con.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I mean, if he shows up here today, he's one
of us. Basically that he shows up here before Labor Day,
he's absolutely one of That.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Would be brilliant because they worked him out, what was
it yesterday, and all of a sudden he's here eating
many donuts and cheese kirts.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
I already worked.

Speaker 10 (25:53):
Yeah, pr he's just like here, he likes it. Yeah,
then he's one of us. You're right, See that doesn't
it doesn't take much. We we gotta claim as many
as people as we can around here.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Speaking of the wolves, because who's a Brandon who brought
it up?

Speaker 10 (26:08):
It is now gone?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
You asked, Yeah, what was.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Your favorite Brandon moment on the fan? Well?

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Cheering him on, of course, So I don't know how
I would say that. So you asked the Frost players,
who is most likely out of the four men's teams. Yeah,
I think it's the Wolf, the Wolves. I think it
has to be the Wolves.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I mean they're the ones that gotten the closest and
most recent memory to back to back Western Conference Finals appearances.
I think if you are you just doing math, right,
then the Vikings all which I don't like to do
and I don't like to do as well, and it's
not what we specialize here at KFA N especially Zach
Calverson and then Paul meat Sauce Lambert. But if you

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do the math, obviously the Vikings always have the best chance.
They have the fewest amount of games. Yeah, like so
they always kind of have the best. But I think
realistically the tim Wolves do right Andrew one hundred and
they're gonna be damn twins.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
We know that for sure. Well, they're going to be
better this year.

Speaker 10 (27:06):
They Julius and Dance have had a full off season,
Finch has had a full off season. They're going to
be like good out of the game.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Like, we don't like the Wolves for getting out.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
He was wearing Wolves and we scared.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
It's too optimistic.

Speaker 10 (27:23):
We should be talking about where their draft pick will
be in twenty twenty in twenty thirty three, that's what
we should be.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I should be that last roster spot on the Wolves.
It's a it's a mystery, a question mark. Everybody's wondering
where that last roster spot. Who's who's it going to
go to? I think everybody's assuming it's going to be
some type of point guard with some type of veteran status,
but we still don't really know. If you had to
look into your crystal ball channel, your inner miss Kleio

(27:50):
called me, now you could that was terrible, but actually Jamaican,
so it's not offensive. She was doing a fake Jamaican
accident as well.

Speaker 10 (27:57):
I'm not going to do a Jamaican ac Why that that?

Speaker 5 (28:00):
I who do you who?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Out of the names that have been kind of tossed around,
who do you think of that that last roster spot
is going to?

Speaker 10 (28:09):
Well, I mean they brought in like they're bringing in
point guards, you know. Bones Highland has been kind of
kicked around that he's going to be back for training camp.
The Irish kid C J. Fulton announced on an Irish
station that he's going to be here for training camp.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
That that next level insider information, right, Hey, Irish Irish,
the Irish, right, this is what happens when all you
do is live basketball.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
But I think it's honestly going to depend on what
Rob does in training camp and what Rob does in
the regular season. If he's awesome, you're probably bringing in
a guy like CJ or an undrafted rookie or someone young.
If Rob struggles, you're probably going out and bringing back bones,
getting a getting a veteran point guard, doing something else.
But you know, that's the tough part with this season.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I'm stalking, I'm lurking, I'm in the crowd.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I see some Vikings paraphernalia over here. What's your name, sir, Mike?
That's you feeling about the Vikings QB moves this morning?
No more Sam How Hello to Carson Wentz. How you feeling?

Speaker 5 (29:17):
I like it.

Speaker 10 (29:17):
I like having a better backup.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Vikings record predict prediction this year super.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Bowl for start of the Dynasty or start of the
Dynasty playoffs.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Let's get to the playoffs first and get back to me.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
A realistic Vikings fan, A realistic Vikings fan.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta temper the expectations a
little bit smart.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
You gotta you know I was talking about it with
Dan on sermons, and it's like, what will be the
expectations for JJ McCarthy and what should be? Because what
should be is people should have a lot of grace
and a lot of This kid's gonna make mistakes. It's
just part of the NFL. When your first year starting quarterback,
it's gonna happen. But the temperature that I get from
most people super Bowl, is he better? I've heard people say, well,

(30:02):
he's played in college, so why wouldn't he be ready.
It's like, well, because it's a different piece in the NFL,
Like it's a whole different Well, he's played his whole life,
you should be ready for this, Like it's that's just
not how it works.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
That is a good point, though, about what the expectations
should be and what they will because everybody's expecting him
to come in. I mean, nobody's even entertaining the idea
that he might even be okay, just so he's got
to be Tom Brady, like right from the jump he's
got all, which is preposterous.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
It is.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yeah, he's a rookie. He's a rookie, and I get it.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
That's kind of the winning formula these days in the NFL,
you get a you get a young quarterback on it,
you know before you have to pay him a bajillion
dollars and try to win the super Bowl then, But
it's not always in year one.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
I mean, that's that's just a little ridiculous to me.

Speaker 10 (30:43):
Andrew Well and like, you know, JJ's probably been the
best athlete he's ever known for most of his life,
and now he's probably one.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Of the worst athletes, right or at least, I mean,
that's one. You know, that's tough, right.

Speaker 10 (30:56):
You go from being able to kind of control your
day at everything too. Now you're on a Vikings team
where I mean, realistically, is he even a top fifteen
player on the team.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I mean, I think he kind of has to be, right,
like hopefully, yeah.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
Yeah, I mean it's just I think hopefully he starts
out good and they just win, because if they win,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
What he has.

Speaker 10 (31:18):
Just win, baby just solves everything if he if they win,
it doesn't matter if he's throwing interceptions, it doesn't matter
if his completion percentages.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
But he doesn't necessarily even have to be the top
in the top fifteen, top ten, top whatever, right, as
long as he's not turning over the not as long
as he's not actively harming the Vikings while he's on
the field. They have enough offensive weapons that I think
they're going to be okay, and that defense is so crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
I think they're gonna be high.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
But do you think that the first three and out,
the first interception, that there's going to be a section
of And by the way, this is not me ripping
on a Vikings fans. Every fan base is going to
have this hundred percent yeap. So it's not exclusive to
Vikings fans by any means, but there are gonna be
those people that the first time he throws an ill
advised pass across his body off the back foot, which

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is gonna happen, we're gonna call in the fan line.
We're gonna say, where's Carson Wentz. He's a Super Bowl champion?
Where is he? And I thought the same thing last
year about Darnold too. I thought, if he's stunk at
the beginning, and now obviously J. Jfcarthy got hurt, but
I thought, if he's stunk at the beginning, it would
The very first thing was JJ McCarty, when are we
seeing him.

Speaker 10 (32:22):
So that is that why you go with Wentz. I
mean he's there's not gonna be a ton of people
calling for him. I mean he's he's been I've been
a season.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Ticket holder for sixty years, and I'm ready to see
Carson went.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Not ready for those calls.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
I am not ready for those calls, but I'm so
ready for the Vikings regular season just right around the
corner week from tomorrow, Brett Blake morows Someday Night football
debut for Jacy.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Is there the bye week and then.

Speaker 10 (32:56):
You're looking at me. I'm basketball. Hell, I think it's next.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
I think it's next.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Still Monday, I believe so anyway, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
I believe this.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I believe it's nice Monday pre see our regular season
debut for JJ McCarthy against the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Will be breaking down the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
New QB additions more as the show goes on, but
in the meantime, we got a little bit of a
mixed bag segment coming up next. This is Worst Case
Scenario Live from the Minnesota State Welcome back to the

(33:42):
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Speaker 5 (33:56):
Covers don't coverage.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Say that five times.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
But we love the work that you guys do over there. Tom,
you cover pretty much everything under the sun. Men's basketball,
women's basketball, football, sumo wrestling, booty button, aked mud wrestling.
That's just the secret link. That's just the secret link

(34:21):
that you gave me. I gotta I got a dark
zone cover right that you need the incognito go to
that one dark web your thoughts, I gotta ask you,
because we were we were just kind of bumbling through.
None of us are elite football minds here up here.

(34:44):
We were talking about the Vikings. They traded Sam Howe.
I believe what for like a fifth.

Speaker 11 (34:48):
Round Yeah, I think they're trying to get recoup value
a couple of late round picks in the in the future.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
And then they acquired Carson Wentz of NDSU fame. I
was telling Brett and and I feel a little bit
better about the Vikings qb Room now just from the
next experience standpoint, because obviously I think I'm curious to
hear your opinion on it. I think Max Brosmer has
played his way into the fifty three man roster.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
I think that's pretty fair to say.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
But you don't want him necessarily being QB yeah two,
because you don't want two guys who are both learning
the ropes at the same attack time.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
You want a little bit more experience.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
So I'm curious your thoughts on parting ways with Sam
Howe and acquiring one car set.

Speaker 11 (35:26):
I think he wanted how because Howell started that whole
year for Washington. Looking at Howell's play and what he did,
you know, in training camp and obviously that bad second
preseason game, You're like, how did he play that whole
year for Washington probably says more about Washington where they
were than Sam Howell. I think they traded for him
initially that was from Seattle because he had that experience,
and I think Kevin O'Connell really values someone who's played

(35:47):
football kind of you know, has that starting experience. There's
nothing like seeing the bullets fly right and getting that
starting experience. So obviously trade him away Wentz is interesting
because he was out there right, you know what I mean.
He so he was in the mcfasis two years ago
with the Rams. I don't know if the terminology did
the same, but the concepts and ideas are pretty similar.
You need someone who can come in if McCarthy, god forbid,

(36:09):
it's hurt, right, and understands how the offense works. And
this is a guy I mean, he was a franchise
quarterback at one point Carston Wentz, you know, season where
he threw like forty four touchdowns or something and he
wasn't Indianapolis. Was so weird to me. That was the
last starting gig he had. That felt like ownership, that's
your say, right, who was a little radic uh stepping

(36:30):
in and being like I'm sick of this id all?
Yeah at the end of the season, right, And I
think that was maybe an ownership call. Now he's been
obviously in that McVeigh system then working with Andy Reid
in Kansas City. Andy Reid now he's always gonna vouch
for his guys. But said, like, I'm surprised Carson Wentz,
who's only thirty two, has all this experience, has not
kind of gotten a starting gig or kind of a
you know, a prime time gig. This is obviously not

(36:50):
a starting gig. He's not challenging JJ McCarthy. This is
a safety net for him, right. The best part of
this is if he has to step and he should
have time to learn to take terminology, learn the roster.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
This is a veteran. I actually think it's a really
smart move.

Speaker 11 (37:03):
My question is like they traded for how going for
the twenty four year old when Carson Wentz was available? Right,
And it might have just been, Hey, they knew Wentz
who was going to be out there, that he might
be attracted to their connel system or whatever. But I
think he could step in and be successful if JJ
McCarthy goes down.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
As the preseason wraps up the Vikings they lost to
the Tennessee Titans over the weekend or on Friday night,
I should say, heading into the regular season, how do
you kind of feel about the fifty three man roster?

Speaker 5 (37:29):
I mean roster cut days Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I believe you where you where are some positions that
you still think are our question marks and are interesting
heading into that team? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (37:37):
I was going to call him at first. I was like,
the trenches look good. The fact that you can trade Phillips,
I mean, I think that's a risky trade. That guy's
been a big part of the team.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
That kind of came out of no. I mean, there
was really no deam on that at all, right, and
he's like twenty nine. I mean, that's a tough position.

Speaker 11 (37:50):
That's you know that you put Miles on there as
the nose guard, It's it's an unforgiving position. And I
think he was a locker room leader and really important
to them. But I think they had enough depth with
the youth and kind of what they did to bolster
the trenches, so that is real. I mean, obviously the
thing you think of is the receivers is a trade coming.
Obviously Deland's day has been thrown out there. But do
they get someone who's been in a McVeagh system who
can understand kind of what you're supposed to do as

(38:12):
a as a receiver, as a third option and a
second option. Will Addison's out for these three games. I
think there's some questions in the secondary now. Flores always
seems to cover for that, you know what I mean.
And I don't know if Stefan Gilmore is just gonna
show up. I know I say that as a joke,
but I think like he just doesn't want to practice
and he knows Flores and he was in the thing
last you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
He could just show up. Can they'll just be like
it'll be opening day in a big Yeah, I know exactly.

Speaker 11 (38:37):
I mean he literally when he was in camp last years,
like his whole thing was like, I just don't want
to put milea John. I know how a defense works
all this stuff, But you would think the front seven,
with the pressure that they can create, the fact that
you have Harrison Smith back there right as a safety,
like they they can cover for that. But I do
worry about the secondary in general, and you know, I
just kind of wonder what they're gonna do kind of

(38:58):
with like running back depth. I think that's me so
important for McCarthy came from that running system taking pressure
off the rookie quarterback. If Mason or Jones goes down,
Like do you turn to like a Xander Scott right, you.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Know what I mean, like someone you know what, Because.

Speaker 11 (39:11):
I don't think ty Chandler is gonna be ty Chandler's
funny super athletic. I think he lines up wrong like
he's supposed to on the right side of up last
stuff like that. So and then and then just kind
of the returner situation.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
I don't know. I love that.

Speaker 11 (39:21):
Powell is just in the seats right at Yes Banks
Savings like watching I think I think you can that's
another guy, Like I think you can bring veterans into
the system who have been part of McVeigh offense, especially
someone who's literally been in Minnesota to cover for that.
But I don't know if this if there's like the
big move coming where it's like feel and or Mariy
Cooper so you know what I mean, like the splash move,
or it's literally, hey, we need someone who's essentially a

(39:42):
receiver three who can step into that position right just
because McCarthy does need that help, He needs the Hockinson's
he needs, you know, justin Jefferson, he really could use
Addison who you saw him rely on him. And then yeah,
seem like they already like early on, it seems like
they already have quite the connect huge And I know
people made a big deal about he makes the diving
catch and then he came back for a to those receptions,
that is actually what I think the Vikings are supposed

(40:03):
to do. Like they McCarthy is gonna have growing pains
as a first year starter. He's supposed to have that
support of the trenches of the defense where he doesn't
have to run up the score. And at times I
think he's just gonna bail me out, justin Jefferson bail
me out.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
TJ. Hockinson.

Speaker 11 (40:17):
He needs one more bail me out. It would be
great to have feeling. You have to remember they have
Bryce young there, like they Carolina has a purpose for dealing, right.
It is not simply like, hey, we got to get
rid of a thirty five year old guy.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think a lot of Vikings fans in our minds
we're just thinking about, well, it'd be so great to
have Adam feeling back.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
He's from me.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
It'd be great for JAJ. But we're not even thinking
about like hey, the parently, like hello, we need something
for him.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
We're not just getting out for free. For the sentimental story.

Speaker 11 (40:42):
I think Carolina has good young receivers, and obviously that's
a team that's like developing, right, so you probably have
less of a need for a thirty five year old,
but the quarterback development is so important. Having said that,
man having a guy for JJ McCarthy who can still
get open can be that safety net who would be
a great receiver.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Three makes a lot of sense. I just don't know.

Speaker 11 (40:59):
I'm sure they're they'll ask him to take money, and
I'm sure there's you know, negotiations aren't going. Having said that,
it's not like feeling's the only option. There are other
guys who come from these mcvagh schemes, or maybe you
could understand quickly what they're supposed to do because they're
vetteran experienced guys. So there are options out there. We're
seeing a lot of movement, the Phillips move, you know,
going getting Carson Wentz, moving on from how like, I
think there's still things that come. It seems like there's

(41:20):
more action now at the beginning of the year than
there kind of was in.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
The past in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Right, And do you think these move that the Phillips
moves and getting these picks in the Sam Howell deal.
Obviously you have to get Sam Hall out of here,
get something for him in general, to bring Carson Wentzon,
But do you think that that they are kind of
stockpiling yeah, assets to get it.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
You know, Adam Thalen or somebody of that. I think
there's part of that.

Speaker 11 (41:40):
I think it's also I understand why they traded up
for Turner, traded up for McCarthy, Right, that's the quarterback
is supposed to be the franchise quarterback. You need the rusher.
I think Turner's going to be more like Van Ginkle.
I don't think he's going to be as much like
Daniel Hunter, right, a rusher. But those guys are so important,
and so I understand why you gave up draft assets.
Having said that, they went in that draft, and that's
where you get value, not just in it for a
second round, right, but you can get fourth round guys

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on good contracts, who who can contribute to the team.
So I think with Quasi it's part you don't want
to go into another draft like just kind of empty handed.
So it may be assets right to go get the
receiver or whatever, but I think given you know quasy
C's value, right, you talk about the Wall Street mentality
or whatever, and I think any good GM just wants
to stock pile picks to some extent, and so I
think that's part of kind of the methodology there.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Can I just take a minute to notice how big
that bear is over there? Where do you get I
know it's it's an audio medium, but like, come on,
that's like three times the size of the kid.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Carrying that is a huge b word right there.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
That is yes, I should have had that. I should
have had that ready, that's.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Right, but I mean I mean that's right, or Dad
of the right there, if you win that, I mean.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
You could if boyfriend of the ear, if you you
could cuddle with that that gale?

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Sure, yes, just date that. Well you could, but like
here's a problem that's bigger than a real bear.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Yeah, you just need some scissors. But if you how
do you carry that out of the fair?

Speaker 3 (43:08):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (43:08):
I well, not even that, Like you're stuck with it now, right,
so you've won it. We're happy for you.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
You got to win it at the end of the day.
That's yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Exactly because then you're gonna have to carry Oh I
don't have room to carry the cheese curd boat because
I've got this giant bear that I couldn't fit through
the door.

Speaker 10 (43:26):
Maybe that's the play though, Like I'm done that with
the fair. Let's go let's go win a bear so
I can fall's chest. That's that's really won the bear
Dad credit, get the husband credit, Like.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Oh, now we gotta go. Yeah, yeah, but we can't
beat that, we might as well go on a happy.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
And actually, Paul Allen just won one of those bears,
so didn't have.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
To come to like, sorry, I can't fit in the booth.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Brett, how's it going over in packer Land with your
stanking ass Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
You'll be shocked here. Great, I'm very with how things
are gone. No, it's I mean, love shouldn't have a
problem playing week one, you get another bye week. He
hurt his left thumb and they got like a minor
procedure done on it. He was practicing doing like skeleton drills,
so we're happy with that. Josh Jaabbs have had a
couple snaps yesterday against the Seahawks or the super Chickens,

(44:20):
so I think it's just about getting the wider shit.
And Matthew Golden looked like a stud yesterday and like
his limited amount of time, he looked really good. He's
looking really good all camp. So the question is can
the cornerbacks of Nate Hobbs and Keishawn Nixon hold up?
Can we somehow find a way to double bracket Justin
Jefferson the two times we play him, which a spoiler

(44:42):
not likely because just Jefferson is elite and cannot be
double covered.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
So what about Jy your egg?

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, well, but the thing is he didn't play anyways,
so it's not and by the way, already hurt for Baltimore,
so it's we weren't really losing anything with him anyways.
So I'm very comfortable, very happy with who we're at
for the Packers.

Speaker 11 (45:01):
Just because we shouldn't say this on k Fan, we
do have a Packers vertical on some coverage.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
And I believe Dave Sinecon, who also hosts Packer Preview
every Sunday morning on the Fan, he asked, for longer
than I've been alive?

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (45:16):
That's true thirty years.

Speaker 11 (45:18):
But so the concern obviously, Golden looks good, but receiver
death behind him, right, even though they've had all these guys,
it's kind of the who's receiver three, who's you know two.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Right behind him?

Speaker 11 (45:26):
Yeah, and then it's i mean the halfway defense, right,
it should be better than Joe Berry's, right, they have
all that like it, I mean it is, yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
It is better than Joe Berry's. Van Ness looked has
looked good in camp and he needs to be paid
and he needs to be big. The problem is being
able to get to the quarterback rushing for They just
weren't able to do it. And I think a perfect
example of it was the last game against the Vikings
in the regular season. Sam Darnold could have thrown a
ten minute tea party every single play against the Packers
that had no pressure on him whatsoever. Flash forward like

(45:56):
one week later against the Rams in Arizona, and Sam
Darnold can't. He doesn't have a half second to throw.
So think about how bad.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Welcome back to worst case scenario.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
And there's a reason we have that title. Folks, thank
you for standing by.

Speaker 9 (46:36):
Well.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
We uh got got our technical difficulties sorted.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
The Vikings weren't too There was too much Packers talk,
you know.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
The Black SUVs pulled out, they got they kept the corn.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
I literally had to plead with them like I'm sorry,
I'm done.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
I won't day.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
J McCarthy is the greatest quarterback of all time.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Red chest it got it got greasy here for a second,
but we are we are back, but no more Packers talk.
Brett Blake Moore, you are banned, but real quick to
make up for it as we enter into this this
little Usmorgus board segment that we're doing. I do want

(47:14):
to get your thoughts, Minnesota Wild your fail Yeah, your
favorite team in town. They signed through a re signed
Marco Rossie. I believe it's three years, what fifteen million
dollars or something like that. That was That was something
that everybody was kind of anxious about. There was a
lot of consternation about that in Wild Nation. How are
we feeling about the terms of Rossi's deal and having

(47:36):
him back in the fold for a couple of years
to come.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
I mean, I am a Rossie guy. I like Marco
Rossi a lot. The number that everyone was kind of
tossing around when this first when this kind of impasse
first started, was like that three times five type move
where it's is basically just a bridge deal. It's like, well,
we don't really want to commit to you a long term,
but we can't really just pay you dirt cheap either,
So here you go. You would have to think that

(48:00):
there's some sort of assurance and I'm completely speculating, but
you would have to think because of the way that
the playoffs happened and just burying him on the fourth line,
and then when he starts scoring, you cut the fourth
lines ice time because you can't be proven wrong that
he can play in the playoffs. It just seemed to
me like that would be the contnation is you didn't
really give me a chance.

Speaker 11 (48:21):
So I'll say this, I'm with you on Rossi. I'm
a huge Rossi fan. If look at his work ethic
and his production one hundred points. I believe over the
last two seasons it's not bad healthy for the eighty
two all eighty two in both seasons.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
I think they're betting on your off.

Speaker 11 (48:35):
So you're of is the guy coming over from the KHL,
this Russian player I'm fine with. I love having three centers,
especially when they should have young talent.

Speaker 9 (48:43):
Right.

Speaker 11 (48:43):
You know you think Ogrin, you think hopefully well staid
at some point, Briam the defenseman like you get a
lot of value if you draft well and have your
own players like up with Nhli's time being productive. So
I think you can afford if you do the contra right,
having Rossi as kind of a premiere third or second
center who can elevate at least in the regular season.

(49:05):
Two First, I think ex a better player like I
think Ek is the but I think Rossi kind of
defines the defies the odds. I understand typically in the playoffs,
especially when you're playing Vegas, you look at how big
that team was, big, productive, fast, like those are the
teams that win in the NHL. But there are exceptions.
I'm Spurgeon on the defensive end would be part of that.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Right.

Speaker 11 (49:23):
The probably gave up on him because he's small, comes here,
finds the role becomes.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
There are still some Texters in the wild fan line
that still think he stinks because he's too small. It's
just part of that old like hockey like ethos almost
It's like if you don't have a beard and a
full sleeve of tattoos, or like you don't look like
Jake Middleton, then you can't play the game.

Speaker 11 (49:42):
And it's just not the case anymore. I'll say this
about Rossi too. I think he's super talented. I think
he does not play small, meaning he'll go near the
gold mouth and get I think he's incredibly tough. I
mean he's going to continue to try to add weight.
I don't know how much he can get on like
a five to nine frame, right, but I think.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
They keep saying it quite a bit.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Yeah, yeah, I can help him out. I think it
was like twins. I would tell you. I'm like, I
can tell you, I'd ad weight.

Speaker 11 (50:10):
He's like, I don't want you to tell me how
to but I think you know. I think if you
look at its frame and you see someone who plays
around the perimeter or whatever. I do think he scores
greasy goals. I think he's important. And you just look
at like the Panthers and these teams that win, they
have like two to three viable centers, and I think
you can't just rely on ericson Eck and bank on Europe.
I think you want some sort of insurance at least early.

(50:32):
I suppose this buys that you have three years on
this contract. You could flip him in the third season
if you had to.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Well, my thing with Eck is that I think he
is versatile and physical enough to where he can succeed
on the third line. And I get I I can
hear some wild fans swerving off the roads as I
say that, but it's but it's not at the end
of the world. Think about how thinking about how productive
he was with the Freak line or the Greek line,

(50:57):
you know with you know and greenway back, like that
style of grief, grief, lie brief, thank.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
You, like the freakline. So you guys heard my new
radio show.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
You take calls after midnight, believe it.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Or not, Tom's only guests.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Tom calls it. It just does different voices. I know,
I know it's you, man, So you could just say it's.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
The laugh you see the call and it's a smart Roses.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
That's amazing.

Speaker 11 (51:31):
I think you saw Everson use that line just to
shut that teams down, right, the only issue you were
stealing kind of from the first line. And you're gambling
on like Hartman, right, who I see is a glue
guy play all over. I don't think he should be
your number one center though, And so I think their
hope is like, if you're off, is really this good?
And again like I think KHL production comes over because
I think that's the next best league, right and probably

(51:52):
and you saw it with special right, but Karisa right
away you dropped on the NHL score media.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
But now don't say that to wild purists because they've
because they've never played in North America on this continent.
That's right, It changes everything. It absolutely so even though
you're playing against men over there, and you're playing against
good hockey players. The fact that the time zone is different, right,
the ice is slightly smaller. Yeah, it just changes everything,
so you can't expect anything from Europe. In fact, I

(52:19):
think they should bear him the fourth line because the
change from Europe to North America is just so drastic.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
It is.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
It's a whole different game.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
It is funny.

Speaker 11 (52:27):
I mean, obviously the level in the AHL is really good,
but like you're in Moscow playing against it. You said,
grown man, and also like Russian hockey players who probably
would be marginal NHL players, right, who would just.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Rather say coal chucks.

Speaker 11 (52:38):
Yeah, yeah, And so I was like, ya, I'm your
yager might still be somewhere like in that league, right,
And so like I Betty, yes, yeah, he's like literally
fifty and still like still chugging. But uh he's good
with the with the Penguins like in the nineties.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (52:53):
But but yeah, I think you know that he should
come over that Europe should translate. I just I would
have some hedge there because of how important center is,
and I just I think you still are banking on
a handful of young guys coming up and filling out
the roster of the Briams and stuff like that. I
think Walstad is supposed to be a better goalie prospect
than gusts In, and I think you need a lot

(53:14):
to kind of come together and make that work to
the extent you can keep guys in like a like
a Rossie who's productive, super super important. Having said that
he is ROSSI is betting on himself, right, saying in
a couple of years.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
I don't think.

Speaker 11 (53:25):
I think he still is in restricted free agency or
maybe enter UFA either way, like he's betting on himself
that he can make monster money.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
But you love that as a Wild fan.

Speaker 11 (53:35):
Unless the Wild get capped out though you know what
I mean, Like that's what they risk.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Is I love those long contracts like with uh here we.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Are cap hell already.

Speaker 11 (53:42):
I no, no, no, you listen like the cap went
up dramatically and you're gonna have space here. It's just
I love like the ericsoneck deal right where you you
string that out and Boldie and and uh the defense
when I'm blanking his name, the guy from Rock Favor,
Rock Favor, like you you extend those is out, and
I think that creates value in obviously this higher cap situation, right,

(54:05):
so they may be able to afford them. I think
they're banking on, like you're of being the number two center.
You move ROSSI probably in his third year, and then
I think they're looking at like Charlie Stram or something
like that. This big guy who went to Michigan State
was more productive as a college player, maybe more prototype
of a third ninth center, right, who can play.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Defense, big and physical.

Speaker 11 (54:23):
I don't love it, but I can see kind of
the vision they may have for this team.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Well there, you have a lot of thoughts of Mark. Okay,
is that your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Oh, you don't even We could go until two o'clock
if I've shared all my thoughts on Marco, right, you.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Don't even want to. I'm just I'm putting it on
my blog.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Okay, yeah, I'm putting it on my blog. I am curious.
Is that like it's three years fifteen million dollars?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
That is that? Is that good money? Okay?

Speaker 11 (55:00):
He wanted like a seven million dollars over it's certainly
not bad.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Yeah, I mean, what's the VET minimum? Like seven hundred
and fifty thousand or something.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Like that probably right now.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
No, it's good money, it's bridge money.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
It's but it's not.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Like we believe in you, you're our guy money. Yeah, No,
I mean Kapriso's gonna give what fourteen?

Speaker 11 (55:17):
Yeah, Kaprizov's like in his own league, almost a round sense.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
I mean, I think, is it gonna be one of
those like record.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Setting, it's gonna reset the market.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Hard thing for him is if it happens.

Speaker 11 (55:26):
No, But so he's he's saying he's in Russia, which
I didn't realize that he's working out with a Genny
Malkin right now in Rush. I guess I think Garan
saying I want to do this in person, come back
to Minnesota, hammer this out. What I don't understand is
or I think the hard thing with Caprice obvious, he
will briefly obviously the next guy who signs a contract
always gets the most money, but he will briefly be
like the most highly paid player in the NHL, and

(55:48):
all of a sudden you're saying, is this guy like
as good as like Connor McDavid. That's not actually what
happens when you're paying him like that, And then the
injury risk I think he's played like an average sixty
six games a season. I don't know, because they always
say it's like upper or lower. They don't want to
give away where the injury is. I don't know if
this is he continues to injure the same thing, or
this is just circumstance coincidence. I think a player like that,

(56:09):
he is such a good skater, that's kind of the
underrated thing about him, that he can literally skate circles
around the best players in the world.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
He should be able to protect himself from an injury.

Speaker 11 (56:16):
You have to have this contract because he is the
franchise player, but there's a lot of pressure on that.
I assume it's a formality and that he's going to
be like, this is what we can pay you right,
here's the contract, and I think he'll stay. The Minnesota
can pay him more than anyone else. I think he
believes he can win here. But it is a risky
contract and that you're getting into his thirties and you're
banking on him being productive at that age, which he

(56:37):
should be, and healthy at that age, which is an unknown.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
And hockey it's more kind of similar to baseball in
the sense that like these these are like long term,
like it's either like super short contracts, so like these
ones where it's like you're with the team until you're
fifty seven, right.

Speaker 11 (56:51):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, And yeah, and hockey players are unique.
I mean you look at the Prezy suitor deals, like
obviously so those were structured in that they were actually
made like raw cat right away, right, but that you
spread the cap hit out and that's.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Why the league didn't love it.

Speaker 11 (57:05):
But like those guys played hockey, and I think through
those contracts, like if they had stayed in Minnesota, right,
if they hadn't got bought out, they would not be
the special players they once were. You think a suitor
eating up all this minutes and kind of like shutting
guys down. You think a Prizy as the grinder, greasy
game during Capriso. Yeah yeah, sorry, but but I think
I think they would have I'm trying to think, like
do some math in my head, but I think they

(57:26):
would have actually played out those contracts in terms of
physically bet on the in the NHL.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
On the ice I think was like a year short.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
Yeah, which is crazy.

Speaker 11 (57:32):
It's crazy given how they played like suitor those long
minutes big, physical player, Presy.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
He kept hidting hit in the back. I don't know
why that's not a cross check, but he kept getting hit.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
In the back that he said the most uncalled thing.

Speaker 11 (57:42):
Yeah, and physically injure his body. But again he continued
to play throughout this. So there is there is risk
signing guys into their thirties. There are productive players at
their thirties. You obviously have to sign Capriso off. He
is the franchise and I think you are starting to
get a team that I think can compete in the playoffs.
The question is how you know when you get from like,
hey we need we got in the second round too.

(58:04):
We are actually a contender and I think a lot
of these young guys really have to.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Pan out for that to happen.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
And you got, what do you guys? Are they contenders?
Are they pretenders? Are they on the cusp? Are they
going to be a breakout team? How do we I
were stealing just a couple of months out of the season.
I hate to say this, don't do it. They're probably
a bubble team.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
And but here's the thing, there's so many ifs and
butts and candy and nuts, like is Taresenko gonna be
a version of himself from five years ago. You know,
is you're off going to be this great star? Is
caprisof gonna get oh, gonna be on the team or
is it gonna be buried?

Speaker 11 (58:39):
Wemam looks good now he's a little bit smaller, but
he was playing in the playoffs out of Denver, right.
I mean that guy's endurance. I think he played forty
five minutes or something like that in a game for Denver.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
YEA.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
I think Walston is another big one.

Speaker 11 (58:50):
Like I don't know what they had that weird concept
where they're trying to carry three goalies Wall and cap
Hell and it just didn't the mat and.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Where the poor Walst had had to go back and forth,
I would have been so.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I yeah, I didn't love I didn't love that that.

Speaker 11 (59:04):
I think they were telling him, like you you, you're
gonna be here, like get a place in Sat. Paul
and An's up in Des Moines. Having said that, like,
it's not development is rarely linear. You obviously don't want
to mess with your top prospects, but it's rarely linear.
He may step up. I'm just saying I think he's
supposed to be the number one goalie. I don't think
it's like supplementing Cuss and I think he's supposed to surpass.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Him, so eventually, maybe not this year.

Speaker 11 (59:23):
Yeah, And I just I think a question of like
whether they're contenders. A there's some truth in hockey. I
know it has not been true for the while, but
you just get in. It's a little like baseball, like
just get in and there's some randomness in the playoffs
and you should be able to elevate. But I think
it is like to be a true contender for for
like NHL people at large to take the wild seriously
right A, Like you're gonna need a lot of those

(59:43):
young guys to come through, and then there's actually a
cool core there with a health healthy Caprizov that can
kind of like take that leap right from just playoff
team to we're talking about like you know, Western Conference
finalists pushing.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
To to stand with Coop. Yeah. Well, I mean even
the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I mean they're obviously kind of like dynastic right now,
but a couple of years ago they just barely snuck
into the playoffs. Yeah, end up beating the historically good
Pittsburgh Penguins. Yeah, they're they're off to the races and
they're one of the best teams. There's also some weirdness.
It's not quite bad.

Speaker 11 (01:00:14):
I think basketball there's like seven champions right in the
last seven years, so it's not quite that, but it
is a like Florida is dominating the NHL now because
you have two Stanley Cups for the Tampa and then
and then the Florida Panthers are in like Fort Lauderdale, right,
so in South Florida. But you are seeing some some turnover.
It is not as dynastic as like the Chicago Blackhawks,
like you know, some of these teams that dominate the

(01:00:36):
NHL for for windows of time, right, I think there
is room for the While to be part of that mix.
It's whether they are right about their prospects and whether
and I understand like we just got out of cap heal,
but like how all these pieces fit. Having said that,
having some key players under contract, even with the big
capriza O deal, it is gonna make a world of difference.
It's the difference between like can you add someone substantial

(01:00:57):
at the deadline, right or do you have.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
To kind of ride or die with what you got
because you're capped out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I think it was the most hockey between the Fraud
in the Wild. This is the most hockey we've ever
talked on. Worst case, all we gotta do is talk
to w W at some point. This will be the
best show with See Andrew. That whole segment, I just
looking at each other like, yeah, well, I know some
of those words.

Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
You could have told me every one of those players
was a drummer for an indie.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
F Yeah, wouldn't have no like off weird drummer names
playing at the Filmore.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
It is one of the crappy, right, Zach Calver.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
One of the craziest sports that you do have.

Speaker 11 (01:01:32):
Like it's so national, right or international like you because
you have these Russian guys coming over, and I think
that's gonna be huge too. I also think the Wild
may be able to add players you couldn't otherwise because
you have this Russian presence. And I always believe like
there's someone over there who could fill like these like
third or fourth line rolls, pill out your daft or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
So I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:01:49):
I mean, like like I said, I think the promise
really resides in the young player as the Wild.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
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Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
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Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Maybe we'll maybe we'll dig into the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
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It is jet.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
You can't find a seat in these places.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
It's the hottest that's how the hottest thinking in town
is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
You got an rs VP if you want to come
see the worst case scenario, which you can next day
as well, eleven to one. You know, I just there's
so many people that pick from in this crowd, Brett.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
I just it's a sea of people.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
I see.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I just had to randomly choose someone, so I got
I'm sitting next to Mike. Mike and Mike, what did
you want to hear the worst case scenario?

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Talk about? Here?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
First of all, do you know what the worst case
scenario is? Are you just here trying to sit down
and rest your legs for a sec?

Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
I was on here last year. This is the appointment television.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:03:27):
I don't think about it playing MLB, the show that
was my summer last year. In uh, Christmas in July
when you guys were back.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
I always loved that one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Your check is in the mail for that compliment, By
the way, I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
Mike, what do you want to hear the worst case scenario?
Touch on right now?

Speaker 12 (01:03:42):
Well, Brett had brought up the WWE, and that was
actually what I was thinking about. You guys tease it
almost every week that you're on and clash in Paris,
specifically John Cena and Logan pul Ken. John Cena perform
a match like he did with Cody Rhodes with a
more honestly athletic opponent, and Logan Paul, as much as
I despise.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
Him, I despise as well. That is a great question.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
You can't have to despise him, and you kind of
that's the point, right to despise him. I also despise
his brother, like not that's just really like, that's just real,
that's not like wrestling. I actually hate him, Yeah, like
I genuine like if he was here right now, I
would I would fight him one hundred percent. But thank
you for organically bringing up wrestling. And I can't say
that we're forcing it. You know, it's an organic It's

(01:04:26):
a member of the crowd that was completely random, that
did not come up to us for the commercial breakings
that you wanted to hear us talk about wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
If the listeners want to hear it, got to give
it to him, you know, we have to give it
to him. So I was looking at the card. I'm
I'm I'm whelmed with this card. It's not great.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
We got a professional wrestler in the crowd right now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Hold on him minute, and he's just like the guy
that that hangs out with Curious George. Right now, what's
your name? My name is Darvin Great Wolf. Darvin Great Wolf.
That's a sweet wrestling named dog. Would tell tell tell
me a little about about your your your wrestling persona Well,
mine is embodiment of my native American culture, the old

(01:05:09):
Jibway tribe, native of Minnesota. And I'm damn proud to
be native. Hell yeah, and you look scary as hell. Man,
I would want to I wouldn't want to get in
the ring with you. Where you where you be wrestling at.
I wrest all around Minnesota, anywhere, to any venue, any
promotion that's around.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
Just all at you. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Last year someone tried to fight me out at the
Minnesota State Fair.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
So sometimes to fight me. This year, you got my back,
not if they allowed here. I'd rather not get kicked out.
That's real.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
You gotta respect the honest.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
You gotta right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Last year everybody was like yeah, mag Like even old
ladies were like yeah, I would.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Have jumped his ass for you. Man. This guy's like,
hell no, I'm not. I'm not going to jail for you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
I don't even know he's not taking out my farm.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
All right, Well, where's where's the next match up? Great?
I honestly don't know until somebody gives me a call.
I'll be ready, sweet.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Your phone's on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
He's just walking around the State Fair looking at whoop
some mass what's your name?

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
What's your name one more time, Darvin Great Wolf.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Darvin Great Wolf. Yeah, that's a big thing in Minnesota wrestling.
Appreciate you, Darvin. You're the man. Oh he's even got
he's even got merch and everything. He's ready to go.
That's the This isn't merch. Ashley's where I train. I
trained at the Academy School Professional Wrestling in Saint Paul,
trained by Ken Anderson himself, former w W and TNA superstar.

(01:06:23):
Oh yeah, Darvin Great Wolf's Darvin Great Wolf is a
big thing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
That's how. It's just on the big. That dude is
freaking huge.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Yeah, he's a big dude.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Have you ever seen I had to walk away? I
think I asked you this last year. Have you ever
taken a bump?

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
No? Oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
whita whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. You can't talk about that
on the radio in the ring?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Oh wow, okay, So you mean like like taking a
fall that's wrestling fall down? That don't know because that
sounds crazy. Half the people in the crowd don't know
that's wrestling ingoing. They're just like, oh my god, I
didn't think about that. Did you just ask but if
he does cocaine, but coming from me, you should know
that that was not like I know, I knew what
to man, but I'm just like people lot of context.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
People are like, my god, this show is really off
the rails. Another coke reference. Yeah, exactly, nicely been.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Bred blakemore, what were you saying about the clash?

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
So I'm looking at the card like clash in pettity,
I'm whelmed, whelmed.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
Fine, not underwhelmed and overwhelmed. Whelmed.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
So we mentioned Sena and Logan Paul, that's fine. They
just completely pulled the plug on the heel turn, just complete.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
They just they I thought there was gonna be like
a second swerve. They're just like nope. They just just like,
no one liked it was terrible, and I'm fine with that.
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
They should do that more often, honestly, if they don't
have to write your way out of it, just be like, hey,
we bleeped up.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
It sucked. I learned my lessons.

Speaker 10 (01:07:43):
Yeah, some pompers do it all the time. How many
times if people thine on days of our lives all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
The time and then they come back, they come and
there's no like about it.

Speaker 10 (01:07:52):
We don't have to deal with exact, just ignore it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I woke up for my coma three years I signed
a new contract so World Heavyweight title Rollin's jay U
so cempunk l A Night. I'm just here to tell
you and as a certified l A Knight not hater,
but just not lover.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
It just doesn't make it's hater. Does it make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
He's kind of an outsider in this match. I'm gonna
tell you if it makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
The hate for La Knight, I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Just it just yeah, nothing for me. I don't I
don't know, it just doesn't. I don't get that dope
mean hit. You know when his music hits, I'm just like, okay, whatever,
I don't know. It just doesn't do it for me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
And then the other one that's this is a weird
one that's out Roman reigns and bronze and red over shoes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Yeah, the shoe fall, this is ridiculous. Okay, So for
your shoes back. Well, I'm not gonna fight anybody.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
I don't think you understand through the ring, through the
parking lot to get to his car, no shoes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
I mean, if we're gonna talk soap opera like like
that's what the I get. It's already questionable enough they're
fighting over belts, but but then shoes now at.

Speaker 10 (01:09:03):
This point, like that's like a necklace. So I know,
I just I think if I think that Bronson stole
some pants, you'd have to fight about it though, Like
if he's a hands on a camera and took your pants,
I feel like that's more than a belt.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Right well, if you don't have a belt.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
I'm in the crowd right now, sitting next to Vern. Vern.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Are you bored out of your mind here? And let's
talk about professional wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
I can follow any sport I one, except for professional wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Because got married? No bomb show? Okay, a wife of Verne?
What is your name?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
Marcia?

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Why did you make Vern give up professional pro wrestling?
You don't like the w W, the w W, a
W New Japan Pro Wrestling, No, none of that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:52):
There's much better things in life.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Oh, Vern? You ever? You ever?

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
You know closers for a second, do you ever like,
you know, sneak down in the basement, you know, just
pop on a little SmackDown real quick, just to just
to feel the rush.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
No, wow, give it up, give it up, cold Turkey
like common a drinking smart man.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Smart man.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Now I have a question, Yeah, do you watch any
TV shows?

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Marcia?

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Do you have any like? Do you like movies you like?
Is there sure any what TV shows do you like?

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Top Chef, H G, T T. Okay?

Speaker 11 (01:10:30):
But but he can't watch us. I think this is like, oh,
in private? And she says she said he can do
it in private. Oh okay, that's that's that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
What do you do some things? It's better to keep separating.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Do you say, is there is there a Burn's wife
approved subject that you'd like to hear the worst case
scenario cover.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
On it right now?

Speaker 8 (01:10:52):
Boy, that's a loaded question.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
No, she said, just end the show, play the all over.
We're done, We're out of here, so we're wrapping up.
Can I can I ask you one more question though? Okay,
if you were a wrestler, a wrestler yourself, what would
what would your what would your.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
Entrance music be?

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
You know, the entrance music is a huge deal, like
you got that's like that's how people know you who
you are. That's when the crowd gets hype. So what
would what would your wrestling entrance theme song be? If
you were a wrestler. I think you secretly are. Maybe
that's what I think.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
You don't want him on your trail. You've been doing everybody.
You're secretly a wrestler. You you brought that dude over
here earlier, didn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah, you don't have any what's your favorite artist?

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
The concerts you go see right now? If it was
at the grand Stand, Her, King and Country.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Oh yeah, i've met them. They're a Christian band.

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
Oh okay, cool, sweet, I've met them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Actually, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
I just want to make an observation that since we started,
all of these people are leaving there.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
They've had enough crowds.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Our crowd since we started talking wrestling has at least tripled.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
It went from thousands about it. It went from thousands
to tens of thousands. Yes, it was already packed.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
So if we keep going, it'll be hundreds, hundreds of thousands.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
Hundreds of thousands. Poor Vern can't watch wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
That's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
I don't have to do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I don't have to shoot him a deal. I'll just
give him a little summary. Every week, here's what happens.
That's what you miss, bro? What else is on this
clash of palm card Brett Blake, Well, is there anything
that you guys wish was on the card that isn't
on the card?

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Well, this isn't confirmed, but it's almost assumes Cody Rhoades
versus Drew McIntyre for the title. I don't think it's
actually again, I think he's filming Street Fighter at this point,
so I think that's why they kind of wrote him
off TV with that cool like kick the table spot
was fun, but uh, I don't I think that'll be
fun to me. It always bothers me when people are like,

(01:12:53):
what a terrible title reign because it was. I'm like,
the title reign is only as good as the heels
that are going up against so and I think Drew
can actually have a pretty long feud of them, but
there's not a lot of like, there's not a lot
of personal you know, juice to that feud right now.
I need some more heat with that, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
What about you, Andrew?

Speaker 10 (01:13:13):
I I mean everything on the cart kind of seems
like it's just everyone's going to retain just at the place,
and that always be a placement filler. Rollins can't lose,
like you know that it's a it's a good international
like pay per view. They're going to have is Dom
and AJ styles official that you can't keep off.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
The Paris card though, I know, especially.

Speaker 10 (01:13:38):
Like that's the one that when they make that official,
I'll be pretty happy because AJ got that place rocking.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
If you guys had to form a tag team with
anybody at the fan, who are you forming out? Who
are you forming an attack team with? Who are you
going to form a tag team? That's a good question,
It is a good question. I'm not choosing Chad Abbott.
He's got job foot in a bad back.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
He can't he can't standing your.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Sitting able to get in the ring. Just a tagging
him in the ring might take him out. No, I'm
not bringing Chad out of it.

Speaker 11 (01:14:07):
Corey Cove, Corey Cove, I feel like Corey, I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Mean, we got to get him out of the house first. Yeah,
we got to make sure that the arena is what
what did he say?

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
Sixty sixty three degrees? What does he said? We got
to make sure the arena very cool, calm and collected.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Now I think Pa is the slam dunk here.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Yeah, yeah, he would just be the techn manager. He'd
be a great man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Yeah, that's how we was interfering coming out to the
bringing you out to the ring.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
If I was a heel and a bad guy and
I needed him to interferece so we could cheat, you
could just tick all the sides, easy whim right there
a baby. Yeah, I like that a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Actually, I mean I think the like former football players
like Lieber.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Oh yeah, well that's agreed.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
Yeah, stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Those beat sauce.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Yeah, beat sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Former football player right at a high level, high level
along time. We can't leave the common man out.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Well, he played the game at a high level. Yeah,
I don't have it memorized the bit, but yes I
have the first part. He was a great route running, precise.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Running, tight end rock of yes, defensive.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Of course that was fourth grade and coon rapids right,
but yes.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
I always love.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
I'm gonna bring Hawk if I'm just gonna tell someone
stole his women, and I think, I mean, he's an
undertaker at WrestleMania at that point, he's undefeated. If someone
stole his women, think about it, he's he's undefeated. So
I'm bringing Hawk on my tag team. The Max and
Hawk connection, the Afro Hawk, the black Hawk.

Speaker 10 (01:15:35):
Connection, the troubleshooting of the name right.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
Exactly, we're just working it out live on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
But the black Hawk name, I think I made the same.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Like a double space or do not say that one
five times?

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:15:50):
No, I think the problem when you have so many
different shows, I mean, we don't know which one we're on, right,
That's true, Andrew, what are you?

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
Are you familiar with the fan line up? I think
I would.

Speaker 10 (01:16:03):
I think I would go probably the cheap answer and
do like a Ben Leber Chack Greenway. Well, there's a
lot of athleticism in me, so it would be it
would be like a jelly roll match where I just
get slammed through a table and then the Randy Orton
that is Ben Lieber would have to carry the rest
of the slowly waddling down the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I would love to see that tag team though, just
like the bodybuilding routines beforehand, like the pre workout.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
I would love that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Now, not involving me, but I feel like a good
tag team would be Meat Sauce in Nordo Meet Sauce,
because they they always are the tag team and they
always call themselves the Motor So I feel like rights
Itselth just come out on the motorcycle.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Yeah, I got a gimmick built.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Did just have smoked meat so they throw out to
the crowd like the brilliant. I'm sure he'd be happy
with that.

Speaker 10 (01:16:53):
Speaking, where does smoked meat getting thrown at you rank
compared to pancakes?

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Oh give me pancakes over that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
I definitely take the pancakes. I just have to I
have to brag real quickly. While we're on the subject
tag teams. I got to beat the Hardy Boys earlier
this week.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
Meat. No, they came, they came to they came on
down to Fox nine.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
I got to interview both Jeff and Matt Hardy at
the same time. It was very surreal. Everybody else in
the in my newsroom was kind of just like, oh, yeah,
there's some Jeff and Matt Harney or something. And I
was trying to really trying to play it cool. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
just the small wrestle you guys, But can you please.

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
Call them like right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Now, no big deal, but I need you to book them,
like right this second.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
We cannot miss this opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
I'm still jealous. You gotta interview Cody. I just can't
believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
But it was. It was, it was so surreal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
I had to I had to I had to temper
temper myself and act like I wasn't freaking the bleep
out the entire freaking interview. Matt gave like really thoughtful
answers that like that were well thought out, well explained,
and the Jeff would say like a two sentence really yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Man, I was you know, everything's just kind of coming
to flow right now.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
Actually really could that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Yeah, it's always that like psychedelic almost philosophical type stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Yeah, but with the Southern draw, thank you for talking
to them. They got they got that. They got that
Southern drawl there. One of the most iconic tag teams
of all time. We're certainly not iconic here at the
Worst Case Scenario, but we're doing what we can. We
got one more segment to go live from the Minnesota
State Fair.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Will be back right after this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
One, the poor segment of Worst Case Scenario live from
the Minnesota State Fair.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Just for this week, though.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
We'll be back, same time, same a place next Sunday,
and then I think it's it's probably curtains for us
for the for the foreseeable.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
It's so.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Yeah, that's time.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
That's okay, we will gracefully for football.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
For football, I'll move, I'll move.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Out of the way, you know, like there was some
contract negotiation. I was like, yeah, what, I think I'm
bigger than the NFL.

Speaker 13 (01:19:19):
That's okay, But but I know I am bigger than
the Minnesota Twins right now, more people right here than twins.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
This looks like a Twins kid, like a Twins gid.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Right now, tom My first question about this. Had the
pole Ads changed their mind about changing their mind?

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Yet? Are they gonna sell it people who just like no?

Speaker 11 (01:19:46):
I mean that that was the craziest thing that came
after what like two losses of the Yankees, is the
old narrative can't beat them. Like there's some concern about
giving up Joe Ryan, right, he almost went to the
Red Sox and he's the one guy who delivered in
Yankee Stadium. And I think there was so much I
guess excitement, right that someone would I think there was
someone putting together at one point seven billion dollar offer,
which is what the pole Ads wanted. That Baltimore went

(01:20:08):
for one point seven, Tampa went for one point seven.
I think there was some consternation over how much debt.
The Pole Ads had on the on the team, but
it seemed like as soon as they could bring in
these limited partners or whatever, again, these guys are not
going to take over.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
This isn't Laura and a Rodd trying to take over
the Wolves and they could pay out the debt. I guess.

Speaker 11 (01:20:26):
They're holding on, and unfortunately, it looks like they're going
to from I think they were trying to send from
like one.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
Six to two hundred million.

Speaker 11 (01:20:33):
They will say like that, you lose the TV contract
and guaranteed revenue and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
That's why.

Speaker 11 (01:20:38):
But it's so much harder to win at one hundred
million for obvious reasons, right, you have fewer resources.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
It just means tough decisions.

Speaker 11 (01:20:44):
I don't know if this means like Joe Ryan's gone,
Pabula Lopez is gone, and you're really, really really banking
on like some of these guys like the Zebbie Matthews
or David Fest or something that's stepping in. You can
always fill out a bullpen with guys who don't pan
out as starters. I don't think that's as big of
a deal. I'm shocked that they got rid of everyone
we talk about Louis Barlin being on our contract, being
the local guy really has stuff, Like I'm surprised they

(01:21:04):
let him go and they didn't hold on to some
semblance of a bullpen this year, right, but you can
fill that out. It's really Brooks Lee, Right. Can he
be like an eight hundred nine hundred ops guy. Can
royce Lewis kind of find that magic again? And know
he's talking about how he doesn't want adjust his swing
because of arbitration because he wants to make money, right,
and so like they need to talk those guys into
making adjustments. Lee will make adjustments to every player. They
need to adjust back, you know. I think with royce Lewis,

(01:21:28):
I'm surprised he kind of slowed down to the extent
he did, right, But they need not only I think
Pelby can actually operate within a small budget because it
came from Cleveland, right, and he can look at models
like Cleveland, like Tampa. The problem is you're going from
trying to be someone like the Cardinals that can actually
win in a mid marketer they're in a smaller market, right,
and open a huge window where you're in the playoffs
every year, which is functionally random, And I know, it

(01:21:50):
doesn't seem like it here because of because of the
playoff losing streak, prowout, But like I think, you know,
well you'll.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Say it was such a great baseball town.

Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
Yeah, yeah, they're very they're fans of themselves there. But
I think you went from like a model where you
you're not gonna spend like the like the Yankees, like
the Mets, like the Dodgers, but you could have a
competitive team that dominates the central. Now you're putting at
risk that Ishbiah, who the guy who almost bought the Twins, yeah,
bought the White Sox leverages being in the third third

(01:22:17):
largest market out payrolls, you like, actually gets a young
core going and all of a sudden you're competing for
number two. Right, so you're in a wild card spot,
trying to open maybe a three to five year window,
always at a disadvantage.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
I mean, I just hate it.

Speaker 11 (01:22:31):
And I don't know what to make of the Falby
Corps because they slashed the payroll right immediately after they
had gone to the playoffs. I the fact is, like
that team that got there was not that much better
than the teams that missed the playoffs, right, So I
think they were always kind of playing on a fine line.
But now it's like you're you're really really banking on
guys who, yeah, can like Festa be be a guy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
Like what happens when you get rid of Lopez? Lopez
looked like an ace, right.

Speaker 11 (01:22:55):
You think back to that Houston game and just when
you had the ace and had the short stop, that's
why you won. In the playof who steps up in
this culpepper guy is coming up, like, you don't know
if he can hit, You don't know how he's gonna
feel like, there's so much uncertainty with these young players.
You're either banking on Brooksley hitting so well that doesn't
matter that he's a blow average shortstop, or you're you're
praying that that that your prospect comes in plays well

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right away.

Speaker 5 (01:23:16):
So listen, there there are some young guys here. I
think there's a good core here.

Speaker 11 (01:23:19):
I assume they keep Felby unless a lot of those
core guys just don't pan. If you never get something
from Lewis, you never get something from Brooksley, you never
really get a pitching pipeline.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
He's gone. But I think you're just gonna see kind of.

Speaker 11 (01:23:30):
A lot of the same here Rockaballdelli, Derek Felby, the
Pollad ownership, You're just gonna see it with a lot
less payroll, and that's not encouraging to anyone.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
No, not one single bit.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Neither were Royce Lewis's comments that you think that he
was getting ripped for. It seems like the lack of
self awareness is not just with the ownership, yeah, little
bit with the with the face of the franchise.

Speaker 11 (01:23:50):
So I'll say this, obviously he was like magic for
I think he now he hit his six grand Slam
right against the White Sox. Remember he had like four
of those in one season and was hitting bombs in
the playoffs. Again, like you're teams are going to figure
out like he was just teeing off on slider, right,
you know what I mean, and they're could be like, well,
probably don't throw them sliders, and like you know, he
has to adjust back and there always is some risks.

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You see it a little bit with Walner. Walner I
think was like a nine hundred ops players, a really
really good hitter. He had adjustice swing because it was
two level and you could you could kind of tuck
balls underneath it. He's coming in now at angle, and
like he's not generating like enough speed early enough, and
so it's messing with this contact. I think Walner is
always gonna be a high variancet player, meaning he basically
has to hit it over right in order to be productive.

(01:24:33):
He needs to do better with with guys on base,
which means you can't just rely on home runs, like
you just have to flip balls in the outfield. Again, Like,
he is a player making adjustments, but you see the
risk in making the adjustment that your production drops at
a time when you want to be as sending, when
you're entering your prime. Rayce Lewis is going to have
to make an adjustment. This is a problem with the
arbitration process is that it is so stat based, and
so you're hearing one thing from the coaches. Don't worry

(01:24:54):
about your stats right now. I need you to focus
on the process because we are revamping your swing. And
he's going, fine, man, I'm not under contract and I
want to make the money.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
And he probably said it to bluntly.

Speaker 11 (01:25:04):
I'd much rather have the players be honest with everybody
about what's going on. Having said that, I also want
them to make adjustments and not worry about their right Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
So yeah, yeah, you got to find out a middle Yeah,
we're down the line, uh Andrew. People want to know
where the hell is feet? Where is the FISA? Are
we going to see her today? I believe they're in
action against the Indiana fever. No Caitlyn Clark though, right.

Speaker 10 (01:25:28):
Yeah, no Caitlin Clark, which it's a huge just a
little w NBA flex. They have basically broken all of
the records for attendance, TV, viewership, everything this year. Caitlin
Clark's only played thirteen games, I mean thirteen games out
of thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
That's just that's just people watching the w n b
A and not just Clark and not.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Just the superstars.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
People referring to, you know, role players now like it's
it's it's an unheard of territory WNBA.

Speaker 10 (01:25:58):
But FEE upgraded the problem yesterday. I would expect she's
good to go tonight. Within the next hour or so,
they'll probably be posting out status report.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Well, we hope to see the FISA Collier back in
action mv F. The worst case scenario will be back
in action next Sunday eleven to one. Shout out to
Brett block A Moulray. You'll be back here next week
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Right, yes, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
Andrew, you're coming back next week, putting you on the spot.
Do you want to come back?

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:26:27):
I guess technically, I think the missus is working so
to tell.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
You right, you can't go this state there, the business says.
So here's the thing.

Speaker 10 (01:26:35):
My wife watches wrestling, So shout out, Kelsey, tomm you
want to come back to me back, I love it all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Right, We'll be back at full strength with many, many more.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
Things to tackle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
This is the worst case scenario right here on the
then