WCS: The Return! Wendell Epps, Tom Schreier

The Worst Case Scenario is back, they let you decide the last segment, they talk Lynx with the Lynx VOX Wendell Epps, some baseball with Tom Schreier from Zone Coverage, and they nerd out.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good morning, bonjour and buenos dias. Whatever language you speak,
and wherever you were at in the world, scratch that,
reverse it. Wherever you're at in the universe, humans and
aliens alike. You are tuned into what we affectionately called
the worst case scenario.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
We are back, boys.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
We made our tearful and dramatic and heart felt goodbye
to all the listeners at the State Fair, and then
less than two months later, we're already back on here.
It's good to be back. It's great to be back.
But you know what, what.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
No, no, not again, Max, it can't be again for
like the twenty eighth Straight Joe, it can't be.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
It's not that we almost we didn't. For like this,
we did, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
We did.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
We were in a coma. We were in a radio coma.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We were hibernating.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, but we were the last ditch effort for this
for this Saturday. I actually obtained a list of the
people that Abbot called.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
To host the show before us. I got it from
my guys at TMZ. Oh oh wow exclusive exclusive. Yes,
I actually have the list as well, right here in
front of me. Oh dude, crazy, yeah, like one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Kg K Wow all the way from Columbus Big ticket
or Kevin Gored the Columbus Wow, KG and KG connection.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Wow, I had no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Okay, and Brad's actually.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
That was on my list.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Love.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
That was one of the people that Abbot asked.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Funny enough, he actually said yes, which means he'll be
here around four pm.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh fashionably late. Likes to uh chime in.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
If we read the whole list, it would take up
the entire two hours of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Tucker double T double double oh T for double tea.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
About that, fluckily, he said, no, Kevin's baldness to you
do we have baldness?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Kevin Faldness.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
That's you know what, if Big Voice guy ever retires,
you might have a future an excellent job. Excellent.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Joe Robbie Rose in the house.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Wow, I mean okay, pay me right now, call my
agent Ships Scott Ship.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Football across Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Excellent. I love that column.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, appitchide asking Lavelle, he tried asking Kevin Faldness, who's
out there?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Wow the program? Absolutely he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
The day he's got stuff with his kids, hockey, everything
the day.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, abide asking Tommy Olsen.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
He was already booked to pop out of a cake
at a bachelor party.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
So here we are.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
My name is Maxwell or aka Marty Max Fly aka
Indiana Frones aka a million other things, and I'm lucky
enough to be joined by two of the best of
the best. First up, j G.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
He's not a big voice. A big voice. Guy needs
to switch the decat you must you must be on delay.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
We're off the subject. Big voice cats up to the program.
Brother put it in camfe in audition.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
We got a guy that's so stoked for Halloween he
wore his sexy nurse outfit into work today. I had
to convince him to take his plastic vampire fangs out
for the show, and he told me I couldn't even
enter his studio without knocking first and then saying trick
or treat. Down Des Moines Way, they called him the
Hawkeye State Hottie, but here in Saint.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Louis Park we simply call him Count Brett Boo. Very clever.
I'm kicking it watching soccer as always ready for to
switch from football though to football later today. Let me
tell you I'm ready for that, and tomorrow will be
a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
To speaking of double B major initials game day, yes yesterday.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
I mean I was in I got two. I was
in it. Okay, item twelve, I was in it. If
I would have got item twelve, I would have went
to a tie breaker. So you know, that's all you
can ask for, really, is what you're saying. I mean,
I'm not going to say it. You draw the congratulations,

(04:40):
thank you. Yeah, you have to put up but you can't.
I love him. You can't pull a fallness or a
or a muss, you know what I mean, because then
I'm just not going to be eligible. You have to
put up a performance if you want to be eligible
for the tournament. That was my big shi to try
to prove I can play a little bit. I got
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Were your palms sweaty? These week arm spaghetti?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
The worst part was I threw up all over my sweater,
so yeah, I had to clean that up.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Rabbit, you could be you could be b Rabbit actually
with the with the name very quick, not very quick,
A good freestyler.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Could you have you ever rat battled before?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Not that I want to say on air with.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
The two letters yesterday or HP and they would stand
for how pathetic in terms of his rabbit.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Oh wow, that was.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Just taking so quick that it almost felt like it
was pre planned. That was a premeditated murder, right there, jeepers. Well,
next up, we gotta god that was a purple loving
Mets fan long before Grimace. And at some point during

(05:49):
the show, he's going to tell us some ridiculous story
like I don't know that he co wrote Hips Don't
Lie with Shakira, or that he was inducted into the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a secret man
member of Run DMC, and somehow it'll all be true.
That's why we call him the Human Onion. That's why
we call him the Long Island Sound. That's why we
call him mister Robbie Rosenhow.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I'm actually the sixth Ramon's being a rock and Roll
Hall of Fame. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
induction ceremonies are are taking place tonight, so yeah, yeah,
there you go. That's always a fun event. So some
some cool artists getting in tonight. But no, I've been
all over the world since since worst case scenario has

(06:30):
hit the airwaves to New York with the Vikings as
we conquered the Giants to London with the Vikings as
soon as we conquered the Jets, and now tomorrow we're
going to conquer the Detroit Lions. Talk about it downtown
to move to six and oh, I hope people remember

(06:51):
back at the State Fair when I gave predictions on
Sam Donold and the team getting off to this good start.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
And hitting the ground running ding ding ding ding.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's one for every win and one more ding for
tomorrow's win to move us to six and al Man.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And we will get to that Vikings eventual win tomorrow
and the next segment. We got five million things to
talk about compared to when we were on during the summer.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
We're in the sports paradise right now.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
There's MLB playoffs, there's WNBA finals. Timberwolves are starting on
freaking Tuesday, which doesn't even seem it doesn't even seem.
I can't believe basketball and hockey are both back already.
It's just absurd. There's five million things to talk about.
But what I want to open the show with. It's
the season. It's Halloween season. I've been trying to be

(07:38):
every year. I say I'm gonna get into the spirit more.
I'm gonna dress up, and I'm gonna watch more horror
movies and stuff like that. I still haven't got there yet,
but we're only, you know, halfway through October. So I
figured this is my entry point into getting into the
Halloween spirit.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
What is are you guys? Halloween guys? First of all?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Are you big Halloween guys? Scary movie guys? Do you
guys get in the spirit every year?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I would say as a kid, I was definitely a
Halloween candy kid, being being yeah, being being a fat
kid growing up, of course I wanted all the candy.
I wanted my sister's candy, my brother's candy, and all
that stuff. I did enjoy some of the scary movies
growing up, like Saw and and and and Halloween and
some of those older movies like The Shining and just

(08:20):
kind of going back and watching The Exorcist. But uh,
after I watched them once, I think that was enough.
Like I mean, I mean Texas Chainsaw Masker from the seventies,
I mean that is a brutally horrific movie. I mean,
I recommend seeing it once, not twice. But I was
very much into the movies and and definitely dressing up
as a kid for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Brett Blake, ma, are you a Halloween?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
And guy, I liked Halloween for the trick or treating.
I liked it because my birthday is the day after,
so that makes me it's always associated with November. First,
I was due for Halloween and my mom said, no,
not gonna work, and so so yeah, November first it
was I'll say you this, though, I'm out on scary

(09:02):
movies out on like Robbie, you gave me a coupon
for like a haunted house. No chance you take it back.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
You don't like being spooked you I just don't see how.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I don't see what's the fun, Like, how is that
an enjoy You know what would be really fun if
I feared from my life right now?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Getting a thrill, Yeah, it's like going on a roller coaster.
You get a thrill out of it. You know you
know what's coming.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
But in the haunted house, yeah, you kind of know
what's coming, but you don't know what's coming. So maybe
on a roller coaster you get some twists and turns
that you've wrote it for the first time, actually go
into a haunted house, you kind of scared around everything.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Owner I basically live at.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
A haunted house, which you've never seen my apartment building
after one am.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah you da, he knows, he exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
You know the type of characters that that haunt around
people and killed my building. Brett Lake Moore, what is
the what? What was the scariest movie you've ever seen?
Do you you used to be you to have watched
when I at some point to be out on them?
So what is do you remember a particular movie that
you ever were ever scared by or a horror movie character?

Speaker 4 (10:09):
To be honest, I really never interested in that. I mean,
like I've seen these aren't horror movies. But I've seen
like and that's with an h horror movies. Uh, I've
and maybe like The Happening is kind of like a
creepy movie, or like like like I Am Legend is

(10:29):
a suspensey thriller, but those aren't horror movies, you know
what I mean? So I don't know, just never into it.
Never never was my thing. You never saw Children of
the Corn or any of those. Man that is a
scared scared double b sounding like meat sauce on the
text line. I don't know why I don't like summary.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Robbie, what is what is the scariest movie that you've
ever in adulthood and childhood? What is it?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
What is the movie that scared you the most?

Speaker 4 (10:58):
I would say, rob believe the Exorcists.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I mean, they did come out with an adaptation of
a Stephen king nom Well called The Stand and it
was about a post apocalyptic kind of fantasy world. Yeah,
I mean, just just an incredible amount one of the
one of them, one of them, I think it's more
than that, but one of the one of the most

(11:23):
brilliant sixty five that's probably closer to it. Yeah, one
of the most brilliant fiction writers of our generation. But no,
the Stand would be one. The Birds would be another
one that they made into kind of a TV thing.
But uh, definitely The Exorcist and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
But I love Saw one and two. I mean, I know,
I know people can join us on the text line here.

(11:43):
I mean Saw one, the twists and turn, especially at
the end. I'm not going to give it, but just
go see Saw, like go see the original Saw. That
got me into horror movies for a couple of years,
and then I was out because then it just got
a little too wild there, but.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Scary movie though for those of you who like comedy,
like the.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
First three are, especially the first one. Yeah, yeah, absolutely no.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Saw used to scare the hell out of me because
that was I mean, it might be a stretch to
say realistic, but it's the more realistic obviously than a
guy like haunting your dreams with knives for hands, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Like, and I remember watching as a kid.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Watching America's Most Wanted, which that was a horror show
essentially exactly, and and I remember seeing a guy that
was inspired by Saw basically that set up like a
Saw like trap in real life, and I was just
terrified ever since that, So Saw always scared me paranormal activity.
I don't know if you guys ever saw those movies.

(12:41):
In one or two of those, Yeah, that's a theater experience.
You gotta have the sound, and it's just great because
as soon as it shifts over to the nightcam, you
could just see and hear everyone moving in their seats
like sitting like, Oh, what's about to happen? What's about
to go down? So those yeah, those movies are absolutely terrifying.
But yeah, Friday the thirteenth and Nightmare on Elm Street.

(13:02):
Both those were those weren't triple platinum in my nightmares
as a kid, especially especially Freddy Kruger, because I can
fall asleep on a dime. I can't stay asleep to
save my life, but I could fall asleep anywhere, and
so I was totally eft.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So as PA would say, you have all the albums, Yeah,
exactly right.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
There's a there's a small neighborhood on Long Island called Amityville,
and there was a movie we called The Amityville Horror House,
and that's about a suburban father who killed his entire
family six people. And then there was there was kind
of you know, it was rumored that it was haunted,
and there was ghosts and everything else, and there was
always tales around Halloween of teenagers, some of which are

(13:42):
my friends, trying to kind of get in there. And
as recently as a couple of years ago, I think
it was up for sale. Nobody ever actually moved into
it because of the haunted nature of it. But I'm
sure people out there have heard of the Amityville Horror
House and and and being famous, but they never so
somebody never bought it and opened it for tours. That's
what I would have done, Like if I wasn't afraid
of the whole supernatural forces, I would have bought it

(14:03):
and turned it into kind of a museum. But nobody
ever did that, and it's still up for sale perhaps today.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Robbie Rosenhaus, do you have a most memorable Halloween costume
from your life?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, I would say the first radio station that I
worked at in Atlanta, I lost a I lost a bat, shocking,
and I had to dress up in something embarrassing. So
I dressed up as the Travelocity Gnome, which I showed
I showed a sad shirt to the two of you
before the show. Not only that, but that night went

(14:35):
out to a live band karaoke and saying Motley Cruz Home,
Sweet Home, Gnome, Sweet Gnome to about a crowd of
about one hundred people at an underground kind of live
band karaoke bar.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
So that would be my day dressed as that sweating
my you know what off all day?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I mean you saw the costume, I mean it was
it was tight fitting and just walking around as a
nome with the beard and the hat and everything else,
and I thought you were Papa Smurf. That's what I
thought it was, convince. I looked like Papa Smurf. I
mean my face was blue by the end of the
evening with how much I drank to try and get
through the performance.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Ah, thank you very much, but.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I paid for the next day. But it was a
fun night. Nevertheless, you guys have a costumes you were
proud of or not so proud of.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I remember being ash catch him for sure from dog
Mom that was that was all the time I had
the vest. I had the hat before I had the frow.
It could fit over my head. And I remember cutting
off the fingers on the gloves. I didn't really have to.
My gloves already looked like that. They didn't come designed
like that. But I Ashketchim was definitely one that I remember.
I was the Joker, but I was a little bit
too old to be trick or treating. It was like

(15:43):
dark Night Joker era, and I put like a bunch
of powder on my basically was like wearing white face.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Powder.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
It's in high school at that point, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
How about you, Bred Blake, where was the most memorable
costume of your lifetime? By the way, the text line
saw people saying saw movies I have to turn off
if you haven't seen it Hereditary, which I totally agree
one of the most terrifying movies of all time. Yeah,
I'm getting a lot of answers here on the text line,
and a lot of people agree with you. Exorcists, that's
all I mean. Yeah, it's all time for bitting heads. Yeah,
bred Blake Moore, all time.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Halloween costume, I mean, the classic was Spider Man because
it's so easy. It's just the suit and then that's it.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
And then the mask. Yeah, or you can just do
the face paint or do.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
The face paint too, you could do that that. That
was one of my favorites as a kid, just because
it's so easy, and that's my guy as you know,
as adults. I mean, I saw it at the Wild
Game the other day. It's it's a classic. It's kind
of overdone at this point, but I still like it.
Waldough Yeah, I literally saw Waldo just hanging out at
the Wild Games, like its earlier. That's one of my favorites.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
I like that one.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Any wrestling costumes for anybody, Oh, I was I was
Ray Mysterio at one point. Should just get the man. Yeah, yeah,
I was the Ultimate Warrior as a little kid. They
did the face paint and the fake muscles, and I
had my pillow buddy or whatever. The wrestling yeah buddy. Yeah,

(17:12):
that's long gone now. I think they still sell them
on the on eBay or whatever, but uh yeah, I
definitely had one of those and carried them around.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I had the fake plastic belt. Obviously.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Now they sell the belts, you know, for hundreds of dollars, hundreds,
but now you know, back then they were made by
who knows Mattel and sold in Toys r Uss for
fifteen dollars.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
So I do remember that buck exactly. But that was
a fun costume for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah it sounds like it. And you guys are both
just marks. You guys are ultimate.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
My body one is the Undertaker.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
With me, there's a destruction.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Have you got any memorable Halloween costumes? We'd love to
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Speaker 2 (18:07):
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Speaker 1 (18:09):
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Speaker 4 (18:20):
Today.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Bottom of the hour, we got links play by playbox
wend Dell Epps calling into recap last night's epic win
to force Game five.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
In the WNBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
We also got Tom Schreier of Zone coverage dot com
staping mind to talk a little Twins, some MLB playoffs,
and maybe just a touch of Timberwolves.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Plus, as we always do here on.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Worst case scenario, we will close things out with our
fan favorite segment. How it works is the three of
us will each present a topic for the final segment
of the show and leave the rest in the very
capable hands of you, the lovely listener. You can vote
on which one you want to hear us talk about
on Twitter slash x at Kfan.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
One zero zero three.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Rabbi Rosenhaus, what is your off for the fan favorite segment?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, this is a bit off the board, but today
is National New Friends Day, so I want all three
of you. I have a bookmark on my browser that
that that I keep open here. So and we usually
talk about food and other stuff, but I want to
talk about something nice, something heartwarming. So today's National New
Friends Day. So I made a couple of friends when
I was over in London. I perhaps want to tell

(19:25):
that story. I'm sure the two of you have made
a new friend or two over the last couple of
days or weeks. So let's tell some new friends stories
as to how it came about and your new friendship.
That's uh, that's funny. Okay, all right, so there we go.
How much do you think I get out?

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Well, Brett, it could be an online friend when you
were playing you know, your n C double A mode.
Oh yeah, that's all another thing, yes, talk about.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
So new friends stories, Brett Blake Moore, what is your
offering for the fan favorite segment?

Speaker 4 (19:56):
So we're gonna we're gonna out ourselves today because I
want to well, I just want to know what is
the last thing that you've done that was just so
nerdy that you're like almost embarrassed to talk about. Because
the last probably week or so, I have just been
binge watching not the Bear not the trendy show that

(20:17):
maybe the power Trip is watching. I've been binge watching
the two thousand and three teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's
all I've been doing. No NERD's but I didn't watch
as a kid, and I love it, Like it's just
a half show, correct, So I mean, and it's great too.
I was like the episode I watched last night, like
he was stranded and all of his brothers died brutally

(20:38):
and it was like, good, Yeah, it was awful.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm darker than I remember.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Oh it was.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
So. So that's kind of where. That's my latest, like
really nerdy thing that I've done. So let's let's uh,
let's be let's be real. Let's keep it real. What's
the last nerdy thing you've done, the nerdiest thing you've
done recently?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
New friends, Well, you guys, it seems like you guys,
you guys are making me look bad.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
See you guys put a.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Lot more thought into yours because you guys have all
these thoughtful, cool ideas of mine. Is just I just
want to talk wrestling. I just want to talk some
graps with the boys. We'll do a little impromptu a
fight line. So those are your three options. Head over
to Twitter slash x at kfan one zero zero three
to cast your vote before the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
In the meantime, we'll be.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right back talking NFL.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
National Football League.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Baby, the Vikings are back and we're going to dive
right into it right after these commercial breaks. Welcome back

(22:08):
and impromptu worst case scenario. Typically we're on during the
NFL off season eleven to one p m.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
On Sunday afternoons.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
But the gang got back together for a little party
on a Saturday, and I'm loving.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
It's good to see you guys again. I'll get to
see you guys. Yeah, yeah, the show. A couple of
notes on the fan favorite segment for one Nerdiest Thing
You've Done has jumped out to a commanding lead forty
eight percent of Secondly, I like how Robby goes Yeah,
new friends. You guys have been talking to new people
and going out and doing things. And my suggestion is, yeah,

(22:47):
I've been sitting at home doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
But what did the economy between the two lives that
we've led since we met last at the State Fair?
Which you know, we should thank everybody now that we
have the chance for coming out and seeing us and
seeing those few shows that we did out there.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
We had such a blast, right Max, Oh.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, well it was a ton of fun man. And
the list our listeners are the best listeners in the world,
especially for comments like these. We got a Texas says,
does the vote even matter when it will start at
one fifty four with ninety seconds? True?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Lazy, worst case scenario.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Man. I promise everyone, I'm gonna try to be better
about my clock management today. So we're gonna spend us
short little bit here talking about the Minnesota Vikings, and
it feels like it's been forever since we've seen the
Vikings in action, but the weight is almost over as
the Vikings look to come out of the bye with
yet another win and stay undefeated when they host the

(23:45):
Detroit Lines at US Bank Stadium tomorrow. Afternoon coverage on
the fan begins at ten AM before the Boom with
Pa and Pete around noon, and then stick around after
the game for Vikings Fan Line with Nordo and Ron Johnson,
plus Vikings over time with Paul Meat, Sauce, m Bear, Robbie.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Rosenhouse, and myself.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
And speaking of Robbie Rosenhouse, Robbie I think it's it's
no secret here.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
You don't have to be an elite NFL mind to see.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I think the key to this game is getting to golf,
wouldn't you say, I mean, he's one of the best
quarterbacks in the NFL when he's not pressured, and he
literally statistically ranks only above Jared or Will Levis.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
When he is getting heavily pressured.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
So I think the key here is obviously Brian Flores
in that defense, getting to golf.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Wouldn't you say?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, I think there's I think there's two keys to
the game, and one of them goes in our favor,
and it comes to the offensive and defensive lines in
the matchups. And when you look at first before we
get to golf, just on our side of the ball,
they're gonna be missing Ayden Hutchinson with that broken leg,
and that's a big, big deal.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
He was putting up defensive MVP numbers. He was in
the TJ.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Watt category, kind of right at the upper echelon of
defensive players in this league. And I think his loss
is going to be a big one for that that
Lion's front. You saw it two weeks ago with the
Jets and how their front seven, which is really really good,
and their coach, which is who was a glorified defensive

(25:10):
coordinator and now is no longer. Their coach really coached
them up in the second half and stifled the Vikings
until they were able to drive down get that field
goal to go up by two scores and then hold
on for the six point win. But nevertheless, this week
they're going to be going up against the Lions team
that basically whipped the Cowboys into their.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Owner kind of going a wall on radio.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
If you guys saw that is no way to treat
anybody in the meeting, let alone people in the market.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Never, no, never, and ESPN still talking about it. He
doesn't do remote in the Metroplex. His face is actually
blue from laughing. I can't.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
It is great, but the the Vikings went on the
other side of the ball. To your point, getting to golf.
Golf is the quickest at getting the ball out in
the league. And there's a reason why the Lions have
been so successful on offense and put up all these
points against these so called good defenses is because their

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scheme allows their playmakers to get out there and make
place quickly and run in space with Yak and we
have problems defending the slot. You saw it with Digs,
you saw it with Jayden Reid for the Packers. Who
who who exposed us? And I think I'm on Russ
Sat Brown's gonna have a be a really big game tomorrow,
but I think we're gonna come out and win the game.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
I just think that you're spot on there about Jared Goff.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
And it being getting to him and getting to that
press and getting to him early and making sure that
that we get pressure in his face and uh and
kind of disrupting his rhythm because as we've seen in
the past, he's gotten into a rhythm, especially in this building.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, the last few weeks, he's completed over eighty percent
of his passes and has thrown for more than eight
hundred yards, but he's only been pressured on fourteen snaps
during that span.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
And it's a combination between their offensive line being elite
and him getting rid of the ball quickly.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
It's a magic formula that's really worked for them. Well,
that's a scheme thing too, getting the ball out quickly,
isn't It is a talent, but it's also a scheming
thing and an offensive coordinator thing to have those quick
options of those hot reads available, which against Flores, who's
gonna send pressure, who's gonna disguise his pressure. That's a
huge scheme thing to have. So yeah, that to me
is the that's much more interesting than Vikings offense. First

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lines defense by a mile. You guys will be good
for probably twenty seven to thirty ish points. But the
Lions forty seven points last week, forty two points a
week before that. Their offense is flying right now. Then
I think they have the most forty point games in
the last two years.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
And if their offense has been potent for several years now,
but they've taken another step, not only because of that
tandem running attack that they have with Gibbs in Montgomery,
but Jamison Williams obviously we know how good I'm on
Ross Saint Brown is Jamison Williams has. He's taken another
step and he's become the deep threat that they've always
envisioned him to be. And now that offense, it's hard

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to see any weaknesses with that offense.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
He's definitely a deep threat.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I mean, through the gambling and through the injuries, he's
come through it and come good on the decision for
the Lions to trade up with our Minnesota Vikings to
get to that tense spot and draft him. Obviously didn't
work out for the Vikings moving back and getting lewis seen.
But he's no longer our problem. What is our problem
is going to be defending Jamison Williams tomorrow for sixty minutes,

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because you know, in the first game that he played,
he scored a touchdown against us to start off his
career and that wasn't a good look. And I'm sure
he's going to be looking to expose our defense on
the back end because if you saw the Jet game,
Garrett Wilson was open on one of those plays. If
Rogers hits him, that's a touchdown, and he missed them.

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But there are some some you know, this isn't a
defense that isn't without a flaw or two. But they've
certainly played some tremendous football through the first month and
the half of the season, and I expected to continue tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I do as well. But man, this line's offense, really
it's good, really good.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
No, it's good, it's good. And that offensive line like
it's the great neutralizer. I mean, I remember back in
nine when we built a monster offensive line for Brett
Favre and it worked until it didn't win. They came
in the NFC Championship game with illegal hits and bounties
and all that stuff. But the offensive line is the
pillar of any great team. You see the Cowboys forever

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at the top of their division. Why because they had
a really good offensive line. The Eagles win a Super
Bowl offensive line, Chiefs down the line. They built one
for Brady, and the Vikings did the same, and the
Lions have done the same as well.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Quickly.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Final prediction for the game to the Vikings stay undefeated.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, they're gon win.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Thirty to twenty seven, will richer the yard walk off
field goal tomorrow to win near the buzzer. At the buzzer,
thirty to twenty seven is the Vikings move to six
and zero.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Let's freaking go. I got them winning as well. It'll
be a close one. That has been for the last
couple of weeks with this Viking squad, and I don't
think they're gonna that's This line's team is a team that's.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Never going to be out of it, no matter how
big of a lead they have.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
And these obviously the Vikings have been getting off to
these hillacious starts and just can't quite finish with the
same gusto that they start these games with, and I
would expect a lot of the same. The Lioness are
going to put up a hell of a fight, but
I think they stay undefeated.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Brett Blake more quickly.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Your Green Bay Packers are hosting the Houston Texans tomorrow,
a Texans team that has lived up to the expectations
that we had for them coming into the season in.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Every game except for against the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Though, how do you think your Packer is fair against
the Houston Texans.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I'm a little nervous, I'll be honest, because if CJ
shroud looks like the CJ shroud that we know, I mean,
it could be a shootout. I like where our offense
is at right now. I think Love is one hundred percent. Yeah,
he lit up the Cardinals last week like not the greatest,
but but it's better to look good against a bad
team than look bad against a bad team, So we'll

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take that. Also, weird wrench into it the stupid winter
warning uniforms for the Packers tomorrow, even though it's a
noon kick all white white helmets. Get in October. In October,
get that out of here, like you can take You
can say that the color scheme is bad, but it's iconic.

(31:40):
It's it's undeniable. The green and gold is an iconic
uniforms the world. Yes.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
If I'm going to Lambeau and I see the tweet. Oh,
by the way, we're wearing these throwbacks that have the
leather helmet brown, I'm like, oh, God, Like, what's the point.
I just turned the car around, go back home. So
that pisses me off. But I think we'll get the win.
But I'll say this, I'm not overly confident at this
point in time. A lot of other good matchups tomorrow

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as well.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
We got a Super Bowl rematch two times over as
the Chiefs go to San Francisco to take on the
forty nine Ers. We've got Jets at Steelers, which turned
into a really interesting game throughout the course of the
week because now we have not only DeVante Adams' debut
superstar wide receiver DeVante adams debut for the Jets, but
now Russell Wilson's baffling debut for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Listen

(32:28):
Mike Tomland knows way more about football than I'll ever know.
It's just baffling to me. I get that Justin fields
with the numbers aren't jumping off the page, but I
think it's gonna be hard to go back to them
after choosing Russell Wilson in this situation when that seemed
like that team was behind Justin and they were winning games. Ultimately,
if you're winning games and you got a ride with

(32:49):
your guy. But obviously Mike Tomlin sees those guys every day,
so he knows more than we do. And then we
got Sunday Night Football tomorrow, Ravens at Buccaneers, a battle
of I mean, I don't think it's it's crazy to
say a battle of two of the top MVP candidates.
Baker has been phenomenal and the.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Mark Donald's not playing.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh, I thought Sam Donald's in there. He's a favorite.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I just said two all you know that Sam Donald's
a favorite now, I mean, you might as well just
give it to him right now, write his name on
it and grave it into the award. But Lamar Jackson
versus Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson's putting up numbers.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
He might win.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
How many players in the NFL history, have any has
any of them won three MVP Aaron Rodgers Maybe very
few people have ever won three MVPs.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
But he's looking like he could win a third one
this year.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, no, he very well could. Just to go back
to those other two games for a second. I think
Chiefs Niners is fascinating for a variety of reasons. I mean,
you have the Niners are trying to get healthy, trying
to avoid being under five hundred basically halfway through the season,
the Chiefs trying to get to six and zero. But
the game for me is the Jets stealer game, both
teams one two and four, one four and two crossroads.

(33:54):
I think what you said about Mike Tomlin is spot on,
but he is completely wrong in this situation. Going to
Russell Will, I couldn't be more sure that the Jets
are gonna win on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
You can, you can, you can.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Mark this down right now.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
But just getting you make an hour and a half drive, No.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Definitely not, but just getting getting Devonte Adams and knowing,
uh what kind of a boost he's going to provide
to that team, and the defense being really good. I
think the Jets go into Pittsburgh and win and try
and save their season. As we try and save this segment, it.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Should be an interesting day of football, and not only
football and interest interesting day of sports as Game five
of the w NBA Finals goes down tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's Links. It's a liberty.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
So we got Wendell Epps Links play by playbox coming
up around the corner to give us the breakdown on
last night's epic game and what the Link's got to
do to take home their historic next championship.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
We'll talk to Wendell in just a second. Lakes sleep

(35:08):
by two.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Once I'm here in the force a Game five in
New York, fantasuit looking for help. She gets it to Enescu.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Three pointer.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
This for the championship and it's still.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Goodevested to Brandy and eSchool best.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
The great pointer and the Lakes survie the Minnesota Lakes.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
At fourth the day five in New York.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That'll be played on Sunday night at Bartley Center.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
When you come to Target Center, you better be ready
to play because of Minnesota Lakes. They're not easy to
take down. Recognize the Lakes, baby.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Love that call with all of my soul.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I couldn't have said it better myself. After a heartbreaking
loss earlier in the week with their backs against the Wald,
the Lynx played some of their best basketball of the
season and force a Game five in the w NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Beating the Liberty eighty two to eighty last night.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
So we welcome in the voice that you just heard,
Wendell Apps the Links Radio play by playbox. Wendell, I
want to get into the game, of course, but I
just got to ask, because you know, I celebrated the
win by going out and getting absolutely hammered and going
to the strip club. Did you celebrate last night's win
by getting cross eyed drunk and or going to the
strip club as well?

Speaker 6 (36:23):
I definitely did not. Had to immediately pack my suitcase
and had to bed because we got a quick flight
out to New York the next day, so unfortunately wasn't
able to do that, saving that for Sunday, you know,
hoping to get that championship win and then we can celebrate.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Then I'll have a stack of ones waiting for you win. Dell,
appreciate you joining.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Us today, and what a freaking game, Just what a
freaking series this has been. Some of the best basketball
between two teams that I've seen in a really long time.
And every game has been different, even though they've all
been close. And I think the story of yesterday's game was,
at least to me, Brianna Stewart and Sabrina I and
ask you, mostly ineffective for most of the night. What

(37:03):
do you think the Links did differently defensively to smother
those two superstars?

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah, it's interesting, you know, Sabrina, you know, she said
her moments in this series, but overall, and she hadn't
been shooting the ball that well, shooting less than thirty
percent from beyond the arc. I think more so it
was just the Links were converting, you know, on the
defensive stops, and they were translating that in too, getting
opportunities on the other end of the floor offensively. So
I think, you know, Brianna Stewart just kind of had
an off night last night. It's onally not her, but

(37:28):
I did see more attentive but defensively, I thought, you know,
we were playing bigger lineups. She had dorky you was
in there for a couple of minutes. I thought the
Pizza Colliers defense was against phenomenal, so I think it
was just a total tier effort there in the defensivesod
of Lance.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Last night, Wendell Robbie here. Links coach Cheryl Reeve called
Bridget a hustle play player. She finished with twelve points.
She scored five in the last four minutes of the contest.
Talk a little bit about her importance and how key
she was to the victory last night.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Well, she was huge.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I mean she was.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
She hit a big three down there late in the
fourth quarter and the event, so you know, the heads
of the line figh ball game and eighty EPs. It's
arguably the two biggest free throws of her life. You know,
those were clutch free throws. We don't get those in
we don't win that game. So you know, PC's obviously
had such a great year, are their best year in
our W and B preer. She's an integral part of
this team and we're going to meet her tomorrow night
if you want to get the championship.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Wen Dell, it felt to me last night that this
Link's offense, which at times has has felt a little
stunted and it's kind of stopp and go at times,
it felt like it flowed a little bit more consistently
last night throughout the entire game.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Do you I mean, did you see that as well?

Speaker 1 (38:32):
And what do you think factored into the Links offense
being a little bit smoother last night?

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I think just the entire
starting five they were feeding off each other's energy. They
all scored the double figures last night. And you know,
and the FISA Colliers still had a good game, but
we didn't need her to score over twenty five points,
which you know, those sometimes are the most dangerous games
for us as a team. In a fond of manner,
you know, we're able to get more players involved. You know,
Cale McBrien again for the secondary game, comes out and
scores double digit points in the opening frame, So you

(38:59):
know you're getting players like that and and that just
helps you out a lot. And then I think our
bench played really well too, you know, again working as
Chileans men of the steam, and we got production out
of everyone that that's before last night. And when you
get that kind of production out of your players, especially
in a WNBA finals game, that's basically the recipe there
for a win.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Liberty coach Brondel will call this the highest level w
NBA Finals series in league history for the quality of play.
And I know last night's game basically was played kind
of in a fifteen point window. You know, one team
was up maybe as many as you know, six or
seven and the other team was up as many as
six or seven.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
So do you think those words hold true?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
I mean, you've been watching this Links team for a
while now, You've been watching the WNBA for a while
do you think that this is the highest quality of
basketball that we've seen in the w NBA Finals?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Percent, we are seeing these two teams deserve to be
here at the top. I mean, the Liberty and the
Links have been treating the fans with a really good
basketball in every game. You've had me on the edge
of my seat. People are asking me how am I?
How am I surviving pall in this kind of series
because it's been so bad faced we started off Game one,
that overtime game in Brooklyn, and you just look at
the ratings to the numbers don't lie. The first team

(40:10):
game in the series where the most watched the WBNBA
Finals games in history this week, So you know you're
getting eyeballs on this sort of series. You've got marketable
players and Sabringing and Nescu and he used to call
your Branda Stewart and so on. So this is without
a doubt that the best basketball you're seeing. But I've
been telling people the best thing you have to come
tomorrow is going to be one that you need to
lock in for Sunday night, Game five. You know, winner

(40:31):
take All that that's going to be the best game
of the series tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Talking to Windel Epps the Links Radio play by play
box ahead of Game five tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Hey, Wendell Bright here Tagg backing off of Robbie's question,
Then it is the highest level that we've seen. I
agree with you. Do you wish putting on your your
commissioner's hack. There's a lot of avenues to go on
because it's so good. I feel like the only thing
that would be better is if it was a seven
game series. Do you foresee that ever happen? If you
put on your commissioner's hat and from an entertained and

(41:00):
a working standpoint, would you like it to be seven
games in the future?

Speaker 6 (41:04):
Yeah, Well, the good thing is that it will be
seven games in the future beginning next year. Actually, Katy
Ingleburton ounce prior to Team One that starting next year,
the WNBA Finals are going to be best of seven,
so you will see more games in the WNBA Finals,
which I think is absolutely great now for this series
in particular. You know, I don't think anyone was preparing
for the best seven to be announced this year, so

(41:24):
I do think the best of five is perfect for
this series. And we just look at what's happened so far, right,
each team has won one game in their own home floor,
they each lost the game on their home floor, and
they've each won a game on the road, so it's
been basically an even series so far. So honestly, I
think we just need one more game to really determine
who's a better team here. But I'm definitely very excited
for the future this league, knowing that you know there

(41:45):
are going to be best building the series in the future.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
As much as I don't want this series, saying because
it's been so freaking exciting, I don't know if my
heart could take a best of seven between these two teams,
because I.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
Put, man, my voice won't survive, right, I was gonna say, like, you're.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Gonna have to have somebody v for you there on one.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Of those games, because they're gonna lose your voice after
all this excitement.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Wendell.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Game five goes down tomorrow at the Barclays Center, tip
off round seven pm.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Who is your X factor for Game five tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Exact and Liberty?

Speaker 6 (42:17):
Yeah, you know, I'm still gonna say again, I still
think it's pretty Carlton, I really do. I mean, I
just looked back to some of the meetings we've had
against New York that we've won. She's had some of
her best games. The Commissioners Cup Championship game, right, that
was a high state game in the regular season, and
BC went off in that game. It was our leading
score in that contest. So I think if we get
that kind of production out of her, because you know,
Corney William's gonna bring it, you know, and the FSA

(42:39):
Collier is gonna bring it. Came in and Pride as well.
But if you can get that that shut shooter Canada's
find us, as I call her, to get going, You'll
be in really good ship.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
One more from me, Wendell Alana Smith. A couple of
games ago really struggled last night comes back with a bang.
Really some some key plays at both ends of the floor. So, uh,
a little bit about her journey here through this series.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Yeah, Land, you know, she she's been through it, you know,
kind of back injury there in Game three. We weren't
sure what her status was there for you know, last
night's game, but she came. She was tough, and she
she played a heck of the game. I was talking
to her post game, uh, and I just told her
how how proud I know I am, how proud the
fan bases of her for to go out there. She
played a really good game last night. And you know,
her defense has been great all playoffs long.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
She averaged over two blocks in that series against Connecticut
and it's carry over to the series against New York.
So no doubt. I'm so proud of Land the way
she's sticking it out. This is her first year center
as well, but she's had a year to remember and
she's going to be key tomorrow night as well.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
You're going to get that ring, Wendell, last one for
me here. I know we're locked in on tomorrow night.
It's going to be a hell of a game. We're
super excited. But looking a little bit into the future,
what is like the contract kind of status around this
Links team are we do you think we're in a
position to run it back or how is this Links
team going to look moving forward?

Speaker 6 (43:58):
Yeah, it's interesting, uh to tell me about that with
a couple of people. So the good news is are
starting five they're all under contract next year, so they
will tell you for the most part, they will be
back next season. The interesting thing is, you know, the
free agency market is going to be one of the
best free agency markets that we've seen in the w
n B in recent membering. So the Links you know,
I know now especially the seaman they have, you know,

(44:19):
they they will be a marketable team free agency. You know,
they just they'll be able to recruit a lot of players.
Now how deep do they want to go?

Speaker 7 (44:25):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (44:26):
That that's you know, kind of get get to the
front office there. But there are a couple of players
on our bench that you know, we don't know what
their status is for next year. Especially with the expansion
Draft happening in December, We're not going to be able
to protect all of our players. But the good news
is that are Starting five is locked and loaded and
I think you'll see them all back next year.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
So Aja Wilson, Caitlyn Clark, so Brian and I and
ask you Brianna Stewart all come into the Minnesota links.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
You heard it here first from Wendell.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
What schoo.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Like that?

Speaker 6 (45:01):
You never know? I will say the chances for higher
than we're on opening day this and that's what I'll say.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Either way, it should be exciting. Go out there and
kill it the last game of the season, my brother, man,
I speak for all of us in this room. We're
proud of you, dog. It's it's been awesome to watch
your journey. You've grown so much just as a VOX
and you're having fun out there, man, so it makes
the rest of us have fun.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So go out there and kill it tomorrow night.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Brother, Hey, man, I appreciate you guys, your support in
the world, and yeah, tune in tomorrow night. It's gonna
be I guarantee you guy. It's gonna be my best
broadcast yet.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
So well looking forward to. Man, you do just such
a great job. I really appreciate your work, Appreciate.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
You joining us, window, appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
That is when Dell Epps links a play by play vox,
you can hear him on lead vocals Tomorrow night links
take on the Liberty tip Off around seven pm, and
you can hear that entire thing I believe right here
on these very airwaves one hundred point three k f
A and and also on the free iHeartRadio app. From

(46:01):
one playoffs to the next, we're gonna talk MLB playoffs
with Tom Schreier of Zone Coverage. Second hour of worst
case scenario coming at you next second hour of worst

(46:22):
case scenario, Max Fuller here alongside Brett Blake Moore and
Robbie Rose in house, hanging out with you until two pm.
Just got off the phone with Wyndell Epps talking WNBA playoffs.
But we move over to the Baseball Diamond to talk
a little MLB playoffs and of course everybody's favorite squad,
the Minnesota Twins, So we got Tom Schreier, who does

(46:43):
amazing We're covering the Twins among many other teams on
zone coverage dot com. Lesser known fact about Tom, though,
is that he also does work for another site called
bonecoverage dot com, where he simultaneously does archaeological analysis and
reviews adult films.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
You're you're a man of many facet stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
That's right. That's right, that's right. I'm glad that's out.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I know, I know you didn't want to, you know,
publicize it so much. You're a private guy, but I
figured you you do great work.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
It is on the internet. It is out there.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Additional, does your your review of The rod Father? I
mean I have goosebumps right now just thinking about it.
So we appreciate you being here. Top Yeah, No, it's awesome, awesome,
and it's funny.

Speaker 7 (47:27):
To think about, Like we're talking about the Twins, who
somehow went from ninety percent right in August. I thought
we were going to be talking about the Twins over
the Vikings in a rare scenario. Yeah, right, yeah, given
the Vikings were checkted to win six games, they might
win their six game here coming up.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Uh And now yeah, they're almost.

Speaker 7 (47:42):
Like an aftertop right, people are focused on who's the
new owners and you know who do they retain on
this roster?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Right exactly?

Speaker 4 (47:47):
And that does that actually was one of the questions
I was going to ask you.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Does it does it make you feel a little bit
salty watching a team like the Guardians in the Alcs?
Where does it does do you feel like that could
have been the Twins? Had they been their potential, Yeah,
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
It's funny.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
I was talking to a friend of mine from Cleveland,
die hard, die hard Guardians fan, and I said, there's
a pro and con to them succeeding.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
One is you don't want ownership to go.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
I can pay a hundred million dollars and succeed, right,
because they like, we'll just keep cutting payroll and making
money or whatever. The flip side is it is fun
seeing this underdog team that seems to have the will
to win. I don't know if they have enough juice.
I don't know if they're talented enough right to beat
the best teams in baseball. But you the disparity is crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Like I was looking this up.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
The Mets are paying three hundred and seventeen million dollars
on their payroll, right, Yankees three h nine, Dodgers two
forty one. Think about it, Like the Dodgers in LA
second biggest market have OTAWNI they can tending for a title.
They're more than fifty million dollars than the New York team.
So you know, again, this is why, like the Twins
probably need one hundred and sixty hundred and seven one

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hundred and eighty million dollars payroll to compete, right, But
also I just believe these teams, like the Guardians, like
the Rays. I'm trying to think these like I guess
when Oakland's good, you can see them go on a run.
They can make the playoffs, and they can become a
fun story. I think it's so unlikely in baseball, where
the individual results of games are so random, that if
you don't retain a core, if you don't spend money
on the team, you can win. Having said this, the

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Guardians are fun. I think they're the most exciting team
to me because they're the underdog. But I don't want
the lesson to be you can have one hundred million
dollar pay roll and went right.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
It's a double edged sword there a little bit, and
they are the actual underdogs. I've been seeing this the
scrappy underdog mets. They see up a zillion dollars. They're
not underdogs.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
They did And they also have the Indians excuse me,
Guardians best player as their MVP and potentially the MVP
of the NL if it wasn't for Otani. And that's
that's another point that to make, is that you know,
you see the the the Guardians trade away these guys,
but what do they always keep? They keep And although
Bieber got hurt, they keep the pitching. They keep the pitching,
and that was their strength. Now the closer has been

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figured out in the postseason, there there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
The Yankees have figured him out.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
But the guys before him, the sixth, seventh, and eighth
inning guys are basically won them those last forty to
fifty games of the year where they would get leads
with guys like Nailer and Lane Thomas and they just
kind of went on a run there and they would
win these games by a couple runs. Why because nobody
was scoring late in those innings. And I would think
that that's a model that the Twins kind of want
to follow.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Where you're gonna be. I know where you're going, and.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
So I'll let you continue because you're you're the one
that's you know, that's that's closest with the Twins, and
you would think that that's kind of the the path
that they want to leave.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
No, No, that's one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
And that's why when the Twins were getting guys who
came from the team's right the Bailey OBErs or whatever
who came out of these small schools who they developed.
David Festa, Louis Varlin, the extending he looks like now
he's a reliever. But these guys who are reaching the majors,
You can always have a pick in the teams, right,
You can always develop a player. And even you know,
I think of and I know people hate the same
Lois Cardinals, but I think of the Cardinals Cleveland teams

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like that as the model where you can win if
you retain a core of players enough hitting, enough offense, right,
and that you develop pitching, because that's the worst value.
You tend to go pick up a pitcher. They get hurt, right,
and all of a sudden, you can't do anything with them.
If you have an army of pitchers and you literally
just have to draft a whole bunch of these guys,
hope that they have the stuff they don't get injured.

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There's so much variance with it. But luckily Felby came
from that. Derek Felby, this is the president, right, came
from that system. Kind of knows the back end of
what they were doing to develop pitching. We are starting
to see it manifest now. With the Minnesota Twins. That
is actually the best development from a lost season, right,
is that you started to see guys from within the
system emerge, guys who weren't top picks. And I think

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that is like, that's how Saint Louis did it forever.
By the way, Saint Louis is going to cut back
payroll and they are, and they are investing in their
minor league staff right making sure that they can get
back to what they were, which is a pitching factory.
And I think that is how Cleveland is winning. That
has to be part of the equation for the Minnesota Twins.

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Always be a development.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
And I'm pretty sure the Cardinals owner made the preposterous
statement Tournament a couple of years ago for saying it's
not profitable owning a baseball team. I wouldn't go. The
fan base is definitely the model fan base. I know
that's a classic cliche.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
St.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Louis is such a baseball town, but like, I'm not
a fan of their owner.

Speaker 7 (52:12):
They call themselves and this is why people hate the
Saint Louis Cardinals is that they call themselves. Literally, they
announced it. I've been at games there. They announced you
are the best fans in baseball, right, come on, yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Come on, please it just it just stop. It's such
a madiculous thing.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
But also the reason why owners can't say this, and
this is relevant to the Twins now, is that you
go and buy the Twins. I think it was for
some of like forty four million dollars in like the eighties, right,
that is going to sell for one point five to
two billion dollars if they complete this sale. Right, you
can actually just lose money year to year. Now, there's
a certain extent to teams. Won't Otherwise every team would
have a payroll like the New York teams. Right, But

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like that, that is the truth. These guys are saying, Yeah,
I'm losing money to year to year. You're like, fine,
sell the team, You'll make so much money. Well, and
so I want to clarify that. The Cardinals owner should
not say that. Also, he has a really great team
with a fan base, one of the mid markets teams,
small market teams you'd want to own. He could go
sell that thing the next day. A really good ownership
group could come in and tend and think.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
About the run that they were on.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I mean, they basically relaunched baseball after the strike with
Mark McGuire had all that popularity. Then they had the
greatest right handed hitter of our generation at Albert Poolholes
for ten years, win them two World championships, and they
keep churning out kind of winning teams. Now, they didn't
have a great year this year, but again they are
the model franchise. But I don't know about the model fans.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
You mentioned it a couple of times, Tom, that the
Twins are for sale. Now, I think everybody in the
Twin Cities and knows that, But I'm curious about the
details of this whole thing. Do we have any idea
of any potential buyers of who specifically would be interested
in the team at this.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Point, I don't know offhand.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
The truth is, it's it's a weird dynamic where there's
so few people who could own a baseball team. There's
literally just only so many billionaires in the world. Having
said that, this is the buye you want to make
not only dedicated fan base. You have Korea, you have Bucks.
I understand the injury issues, but you have this core
group of guys. You have the pitchers coming up from
the minor leagues. You have a trusted GM, you have

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a coach that's won rock a bolt Eli. I think
this and also the big big thing here is you
have a relatively new stadium that's pretty paid off, and
so I think this is they will attract good ownership.
I think that's the most frustrating things for Twins fans
is they were like, why if you have all these elements, right,
this isn't taking over Oakland?

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Where You're like, are they going to be an Oakland? Sacramento? Vegas?

Speaker 7 (54:27):
Does Vegas want a stadium? This is a team you
want to buy and they should curry good ownership. And
that's not you mentioned Oakland. That's not a pot Do
you think that's not on the table right? Obviously we
can't say zero percent, But do you like a move?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah? Like a move that's not on the table nor no.

Speaker 7 (54:42):
And the reason why you wouldn't move is a there's
just very few markets bigger than fifteen where that don't
have a team and makes sense. Sometimes there's self interested groups.
I think in ninety seven a guy from Carolina wanted
to buy them and that but that's more that's like
the Oklahoma City thing in basketball. It made no sense
and I know This is a tangent but related to
the Twins, Like it made no sense to take a
team out of Seattle and move it to Oklahoma City.
It just didn't make sense given the market size, given

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the wealthy you have in Seattle and basketball fans. There
same thing here, like why would you move into a
smaller market? This is where the Twins should be. There's
ample support here. You just need one hundred sixty hundred
and seventy one hundred and eighty dollars payroll, You need superstars,
you need to develop pitching.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
You can win here. What do you say to the
critics who say that?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
And and for for better or worse, this is a
this is a Vikings town, Like for Vikings are the
number one team in town and everywhere you go Vikings, Vikings, Vikings.
So for in Saint Louis, for example, it's Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals.
So it's there's a bit of a difference there between
market size and opportunity for you know, promotion and things

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like that. You know, I love baseball. I mean, I'm
from New York. I grew up listening from New York.
Me me, so I never noticed. I love the Twins.
I love watching baseball, and I'm totally into the Mets run.
So I think that there is a place for a
just kind of a hungry owner, and that's what I

(56:07):
want for these Twins fans, because I know that the
fan base deserves it after all these years of just
like you said, the pullouts, pocket protecting and the penny pinching,
but just to that point of just being second or
third or fourth kind of the in the pecking order
of interest in this market, perhaps you're gonna tell me, well,
maybe if they infuse me and they become a powerhouse

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and they become you know that the interest will will
pick up.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
So what do you say?

Speaker 7 (56:32):
Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is you're
not playing or you're playing when football is not you know,
they're not playing football games. I understand the vikings are
relevant year round. I understand there's always intrigue about what
they're going to do in the offseason to improve the team,
but they're not actually playing the games. Until you've established
what you are, right, your job is in August. If
you're at a ninety percent chance to win, go full throttle, right,
make the trade you need to make in order to
get into the playoffs. In order to succeed in the playoffs,

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people will pay attention to playoff baseball. It's not as though, hey,
they'll play on different days. But it's not as though
someone goes, the Twins are in the playoffs last year
player or two years ago playing Toronto, and he's I
don't have the band with to watch the Twins, right.
I think their job is throughout the summer to sell
you when there's not many other sports going on, watch
this when football comes on.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
It is a football town.

Speaker 7 (57:15):
Although I'm trying to think of how many places outside
of a place like Saint Louis where baseball is that
much more relevant New York maybe because the football teams
are bad and because the Yankees and Mets are good,
But also people have told me and this is the
other thing with the Timberwolves being good, right, that's another
factor here, and it's being good probably does affect the Yankees.

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I know it's a big city, maybe different fan bases,
but my thing is like you have the whole summer
to captivate everyone's audience and say this is a great team.
October baseball is great. Pay attention to us when football starts.
That is on the Twins with his ownership and on
down to sell people to watch the team. When the
Vikings start talking to.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Tom Schreier of Zone at coverage dot com and Brett
Blakemore has this.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah, I have a controversial question. I saw this on
the text line not now, but I think I was
with Barrero and we were ripping the pole ads as
per usual, and there's a text there's a pole ad
pocket protector copyright noon to three who said, well, this
ownership is the only ownership that's brought us a championship
out of the Big four, so they deserve the respect.
My question is how long can you hold on to

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that World Series from ninety one? Like how long does that?
Does that credit ever run out? Because to me, years
of penny pitching and right size in the payroll doesn't
own up to a World Series that they won five
years before I was born.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
No, yeah, I mean I think they made smart hires
at that time. And obviously we're stewards of a team
that won. This is a little bit Minnesota hasnt won
championships aside from the links right very close here to
number five, but let's go.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
But aside from that.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
The issue is that there's no championship since nineteen ninety one, right,
And you could look at what happened from ninety two
on until you got to the Garden Higher era of
what that team was, and they should have probably done
more to capitalize on two championships, right. So I think
we should not take that away from them, and I
think you should fairly evaluate the ownership just to understand
what it is. Again, they're not gonna, no one's gonna

(59:05):
come in and have a three hundred million dollar payroll here, like,
they just won't sustain losses like that. But we've seen
a little bit with the walls, and I think that
comp because we're seeing maybe an ownership trip.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Again.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
It's we don't know, but if you come in and
pay the players and bring in a good GM and
bring a good coach, you can have a winning formula.
What these guys have to do here is just to
keep that core together, keep developing pitching, and that's something
they just haven't done enough of. They should have capitalized
more on that playoff run, if you will.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Two years ago, and I want to talk to you
about October Baseball that you were just so passionately talking
about because it's been freaking amazing this year, so some
of the best baseball playoffs that I've seen in recent memory.
But I want to stick with the Twins for just
a second because aside from the ownership news, there was
news of a new TV deal, which was which was
a huge thing. But I've seen the you know, scattered

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amount of details. What do you think of this new
Twins TV deal? Is it that much better than the
situation they were in before, because I'm kind of seeing
a lot of you know, baseball minded people like yourself,
not saying that you said it, but smart people like
you saying this is not that great of a TV deal.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
No, it's it's really hard because the cable bundling is
like coming unbundled, and so I don't know how viable
this will be for teams across the board like MLB
and NHL. We're concerned with Bally Sports being like, you're
not going to take our games off in the middle. Listen,
it did hurt the Twins that they started seven to thirteen,
started winning with that rally. Sous to jonalson right, it's

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all right, and I think there's blame on both sides here,
but there is blame on the Comcast ballet side. And
I think the upside of the deals, you know you'll
be on TV. You know that there won't be blackouts,
especially if you're trying to get younger fans, get them online,
and you can do this through this MLB package. The
downside is you're going from I think they made fifty
four million on their last contract. They've actually always I

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feel like, should have made more money on their TV deals.
But now you're going to like a direct to consumer
model and be hard if you get, you know, thirty
undred dollars a year to make up that money, and
those are the two most important revenue streams. The issue
with how they run the team is that you make
most of your money on the season ticket holders and
on the TV deal. The problem is if you cut payroll,

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and I think we thought we were they were cutting
payroll because because of the TV deal, because that made sense.
I actually think they were cutting payroll so they could
sell the team, clean up the boats.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 7 (01:01:23):
But but I think you know, at the time, when
we didn't, we thought that the poets were going to
retain control the team. And by the way, I want
to be really curd. They may The Angels and Washington
were up for like they explored a sale and they didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
They're still for sale, right. A couple of teams are
still for It's just hard by the way.

Speaker 7 (01:01:39):
You want to vet. You want those guys to bet
the owners. You want to make sure they'll stay here,
that the sports team always don't wan highlanders situation, no.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Spend.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
That's the funniest thing in the world. Get through that
straight stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
But but you don't want that owner. The point is,
like the TV deals is vital obviously the health of
the team. I think this is the way things are
going is more dread to consumer. I just the cable
package was really smart and that everyone paid for everyone
else's viewership, meaning that there were a lot of people
who are not watching things like on Netflix and Hulu
and stuff like Common Television that were paying the cable

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package and they was supplementing the sports viewer and vice
versa in some way. But I don't know how viable
that is going forward. I think it's a smart thing
to do in the moment. It's probably what they should
have done last year. It's forward thinking. They will lose
money on it again. It goes back to this is
why you have billionaires own the team. They'll sustain the
losses for a while, knowing that the team value. We're
going to talk about a one point five to two

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billion dollar sale now, it'll be worth that much more,
you know, in thirty years. So yeah, it's something that
they'll have to kind of cover for a while. I
think it'll be smart long term.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Do you think that the sale of the team or
the pending kind of limbo of the of the team
will affect kind of player movement or acquisitions as we
get towards the holidays and the winter meetings. I mean,
you got to think that they're going to want to
start to kind of get the ball rolling gear to
figure out, Hey, what kind of team were we going

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to have going into next season. We got to basically
blank or get off the pot to have a competitive
team because this division, the Royals aren't going away, They're
probably gonna get better. We know, the Tigers have one
of the best pitchers in baseball and have some really
good young katers, and the Guardians are in the ALCS.
So the Twins need to make some moves here, and
I think the ownership thing could kind of get the
ball rolling to you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Great.

Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
Yeah, I think what the situation you want is just
don't do anything stupid, right, don't touch Carlos Korea. You
need the short stop. I went back to people talk
about this curse. It's not a curse. They had Christian Guzman,
he left. He didn't have a short stop until he
had Carlos Grant. It's not that complicated. You have Bucks
and who again Bucks and gets injured. But when he's healthy,
this team wins at like a seventy percent clip. You know,
I don't know what they do with like a Vasquez,

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who you probably don't want him on the payroll. You
have Lopez had a good number. The issue is actually
the adding, right, it's will they be willing to add?
And I think that's where you're going to run into
issues because the poets are going to want to keep
these these books clean. They're gonna want to reduce losses
because they want to hand this to someone who's gonna
spend as much money as possible on the team.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
I mean, I for one, like Andleton Simmons, but that's
fair Simmons mind the original semi camp. That's right, unbelievable
defensive player.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Well, we were talking about the Twins in October, which
I guess is a good thing, but not in the
way that we would want to be talking about the
Twins in October. They are out of the playoffs, obviously
didn't even make the playoffs. But the MLB Playoffs has
been just a hell of a watch throughout each and
every round so far. We got the ALCS going on
right now, We've got the NLCS going on right now.
Tom who what is your World Series prediction? Are you

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rooting for anybody? Just how you feeling about the baseball playoffs? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
And I love the underdog guardian story.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
I see Yankees Dodgers, and I think it's gonna be
Otani versus kind of the empire, right. I think if
people are going to invest in a team like the Dodgers,
unless you have a connection to Los Angeles, it's that
Otani is a special once in a generation, there's no
player like him. The fact that he could pitch if
he wasn't hurt, the fact that he kind of just
effortly seems to produce in the playoffs, that he.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Just decided to steal a fifty bases this year. Truly,
he truly looks like a creative player, you know what
I mean. It's like if you could just like.

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
Scale everything up and you're like, yeah, you'll pitch, you'll
hit home run. He literally looks like he's just like
flicking the ball over whatever. He's healing from Tommy Johns surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
He's gonna win MVP.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
No one, especially here, no one's gonna love in La
New York, right or potentially I guess New York New
York matchup. But I love the idea of, like, yes,
this one guy kind of it just feels like he's
going against the empire, right, the team that that traditionally
is no I guess the yank is not once and
so nine, but one of the most successful organizations, you know,
spending all this money. And it is to me, the
Yankees are always the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
They have stars.

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
I know it's there to you whatever, but it is
like it's this collection of they always put together a
goot collection of players. It's Otani leading the Dodgers, and
I hope people appreciate him because I don't know how
much baseball is in the national spotlight anymore, and I
don't especially here. I don't know how many people are
watching games that start at nine o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I mean, the Fox executives couldn't have dreamed up a
better matchup than Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Then then Yeah, wanted to jump off a building last
year when it was timing back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Yeah, he's he's probably gonna get his wish this year, though.
I'll hold out a little bit of hope for my
Mets that they'll come through. But again, either sublay series SAH,
which I already hated twenty four years ago, and it
was a dud anyway, because Yankees took a three nothing
lead Mets one Game four, Jeter let off Game five
with a home run and that was that and they
ended up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
I can remember that your memory. Yeah wow, oh yeah,
it wasn't that three of those games ding ding ding.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
But this do you have a question?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
No, the question no, The question would be, you know,
which are the two series? To you is the most exciting?

Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
I honestly, I usually want October Baseball to be close, right,
nail Biers base to base. Actually, honestly, the Mets Dodgers
one is so fascinating to me that I was like,
how are these games related?

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
And they always say that's not momentum.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
It's a different starting pitcher, all this stuff, But the
fact that you're going to blow out to blow out,
it's not that exciting to watch. Obviously, each individual game,
it's fascinating from a baseball standpoint of like these teams
should know each other so well that it just you
think of like Yankees, Guardians, and.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
It comes down to inches and it's not a game
of inches. It looks like for night football.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Scores, right, But when you watch the four teams, I mean,
it is clear to me that the Dodgers are the
best team top to bottom. I mean, they have the
best lineup, they have the best starting pitching, and they
clearly have the best bullpen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
I mean you've.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
And you've seen the Yankees bullpen exposed against the against
the Guardians with those bombs that they give up the
other night, the Guardians closer has gotten exposed, and the
Mets bullpen walks the ballpark. So I just think that
the Dodgers start to finish, have been the best team
and clearly are going to go on. I think they're
gonna go on and win the World Series. Now I
was holding out hope for my Mets. Unfortunately, that's not
going to happen, and I think the Dodgers are going

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to get the job done.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
And that's who the Mets want to be. They want
to be the Dodgers. Look at how sustainable.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Then they haven't been to the World Series since twenty twenty,
so it has been a little bit for them. The Yankees,
like you said, hasn't have been only one since since
since two thousand and three, and that was into two
thousand and nine when they when they beat the Phillis.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
And I think this is something to remember, is the
Dodgers now the ownership changed a while ago, but that's
a good example of ownership effects literally every market. Right
the Dodgers historic team.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
You're in LA.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
They should be one of the best teams every year.
The guys who wanted to before had like a minimal
payroll and did not take care of the team. And
I think now that you have that, you can go
get the you know, the tani and you can build out. Listen,
they're developing guys too, because you can't, like even the
Dodgers can't pay that many pitches. The photo a bullpen.
So I think the one thing I'd say with the

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Mets is that is I believe by like leaps and
balance and the most wealthy owner right, and he is
and he can spend that kind of money. Sometimes you
see guys come in, right, they spend a whole bunch
of money because they're excited they bought the team, and
then they got they have a losing season.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
They go, oh my god, right, he did that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
He bought short, he bought that turn out like making
it rain up the Strip club and then picking up
the one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
It was a disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
And this year I read everybody and built through you know,
youth and Mark Vento's coming up and being a big player,
and obviously Lindor coming goods.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
So but I think they're gonna lose to the Dodgers tonight.
But is that it's been such a prediction for a
World Series.

Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
I think I think Dodgers Yankees, and maybe it's what
I want, But I think Otani and I think the
Dodgers win this. I think it is as much as
again here, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Of last year.

Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
It's like, actually, Dallas is a relatively big market, so
I don't know if it was the end of the
world that they the fact that you had like Arizona
in there, just told me, hey, you have too many
playoff teams, right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Yeah, Like that just felt like amongst fans, and at
least in my lifetime, that was the most the highest
level of disinterest in a World Series game amongst just
regular people, like most people. I mean, I was like, yeah,
the Rangers won the World Series anyways, plant Night Edit's series.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
It's a historic thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
It was kind of sad to see. So, I mean,
I know, not a whole lot of people in the
world are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Rooting for Yankees Dodgers outside of those two coasts, but
but I am.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
I think it's good for business.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
And how often do you get a l m v
P versus n l m V the two biggest stars
in the game going on Amergans, I really believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Or Tanys so like about overrides everything? Ye baseball you
love show here? Yeah, no, absolutely. And last year was
so weird too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
I mean you had teams like the Marlins who lost
one hundred games this year made the playoffs last year
as a.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Wild kill.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Fifty six.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
It makes the playoffs this year.

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
So yeah, I think, yeah, I would say, and remember
like the Twins eighty two and eighty it's crazy that
they had, so they were seventy and fifty three. They
finished under their eighty four win projection.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
I mean, that's that's a claps collapse.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
But I will remind people, like there is a little
more paroting baseball now right, the fact that if you
bring in the right people, have the right players, it's
no longer you have these I think these like Pittsburgh's
and the Baltimore's back in the day where they went
like almost fifteen years without winning. Right, So bringing the
right ownership group, have the right people Minnesota time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
And wouldn't you agree that it's about staying healthy too, Brett.
I know your team, the Braves with with a with
just an array of talent just gets hurt. Hitters twenty
one still.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Raves a good.

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Example, though relatively big market, but not as big obviously
New York and LA. They bring in really really smart people.
They have smart coaches, smart development people, hold on to
their stars. They go pick on, you know, they pick
on like the A's or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
The GM is unbelievable, and I think that, yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
It is a big enough market. It's hard to compare
like that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:17):
It's easier to compare the Twins in Saint Louis, but
actually the Twins should be modeling a little bit off
of Atlanta because of how well they're on.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Yeah, I agree. I think the GM is a genius.
I think the fact that he signed to Kunya like
his first year to like an eight year deal, he's
essentially highway robbery with how low he's getting paid. And
because of that, they have a whole bunch of I know,
I'm going to go on a huge brave soapbox here,
but had they not got hurt then Akunya and Strider,
I mean, you could go down the list of all

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these young, talented in their prime players that we have
on really good deals, but I just didn't. It was
a cursed year. I checked out once Acuna towards acl.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
The Braves bring in a lot of smart people, and
so do we. Smart people like Tom Shrive Zone coverage doc.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Thanks by Tom. Yeah, I appreciate it. That's awesome, Thank you.
That's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Where can the people find you besign zone coverage dot com. Yeah,
so zone coverage dot com.

Speaker 7 (01:12:07):
I'm writing a lot of Viking stuff now with the
five and oh start, but yeah, daily content on the
Vikings Twins, Wolves Wild.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah, we got We've got to have you on to
talk Wolves here pretty sad. So he's an opener on Tuesday.
You stoked for it? I'm excited. I actually will be
there because they because the Wolves starting on Tuesday, right,
and then the Vikings play Thursday, La in La, so
I can sneak out there get a little sunshine while
it's pretty gray out right now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
And I'm excited.

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
Here's the thing that the Wolves may have kind of
taken a small step back here trading towns. I think
long term, I'm very excited to see them build around
Anthony Edwards, who I think is a winner, and I
think they Tim Conley is wild. That guy is crazy
pulling off these I think he is the kind of
guy who can build around him. So I'm excited long
time for it. I also think it could be fun

(01:12:52):
to pick up a win here La against Lebron.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yeah, of course, and in the season opener when all
eyes are on on the Wolves and all eyes are
on the Lakers with the le Bron and Brown, I
just I want an aunt just dunk.

Speaker 7 (01:13:06):
So I have not seen the whole show. I think
I'm an episode eight with with Edwards. But I love
that his section starts with him because it's so perfect
for Anthony Edwards being like, I'll take Lebron one of one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
And by the way, here's the thing. He says a
lot of stuff, he backs it up.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
I can see he takes against Lebron just we're just
dunking up. If he dunks on him, it would be
like break everyone's brains here, I'd love to see it.
I'm all in on Edwards. I think this is gonna
be a really fun team. I'm excited for this year.
See if they can kind of capilize and get a
little farther this. Yeah, I'm stoked. Cannot wait for Tuesday, cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Wait for our next conversation already, Tom, thanks for stopping by.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
We're gonna talk Minnesota Wild with elite hockey mind Brett
Blake Moore around the corner, and then we'll close things
out with the fan favorite segment. A couple more segments ago,
worst case scenario on a Saturday. Back after that, Welcome

(01:14:07):
back to worst case Scenario, filling in on this gray
and cloudy Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
But it's always Sonny and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Here when I'm with the boys, Brett Blake, mar Robbie
Arose in the house Brett Blake Moore. We love to
close out worst case scenarios with the fan of favorite segment.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
What is What are the polls say?

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
The most important polls of the fall is our fan
favorite segment. So what are the polls?

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
It sounds like I'm going to break down the latest
episode of Teenager Bean ninjasurd sounds sounds of it because
a commanding fifty six percent nerdiest thing you've done, the
last nerdiest thing. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
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Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
It shows that we haven't made a lot of new friends.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yeah, that's we got a lot of nerds out there
in the audience, from Ninja Turtles to the Minnesota Wild
who are in action at techn night Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
For me, basically right, this is everything that you love
all in one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
We got the Minnesota Wild in Columbus taking on the
Blue Jackets a season opener rematch.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Brett Blake Moore.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
I know, obviously it's early on in the season, but
I kind of want to, you know, check the temp.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
You're an elite Wild mind.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I want to see you, you know, Thumbs down, thumbs up,
thumb sideways on a couple of different things. I know,
goaltending was a big thing, a big talker coming into
the season. Where you got with the goaltending so far
early and in the season thumbs down, thumbs up, our
thumbs a little bit sideway.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Thumbs completely up. Gotzilsen has been a breath of fresh
air this year, which is great. I do think it
has something to do. I don't know if it's consciously
or subconsciously with the fact that they're going to be
carrying three goalies for a lot of the year. Competition
is a good thing the fan has learned and it
can drive people to have good Guszlison was average to
mid at best last year. He's been on fire. He

(01:16:05):
has more goals than Connor McDavid this year than God saved.
So he's a goalie. So I don't think McDavid has
scored since that game. I don't know, but he did
at the time. It doesn't matter. Gustin does start tonight
for the Wild as well. It's weird to get the
Dan Evison Darby out of the way. Both games return. Yeah,
now they're going to Columbus to take on Everson, who

(01:16:27):
in his presser was talking about like how to shut
down Caprice off. I'm like that feels wrong. Yeah apparently, Uh,
I'm gonna go with it. Evison closed his presser today.
This is a Russo quote. Thanks Minnesota people, dot dot
dot iss hof. It's feisty. Yeah, so not not our

(01:16:54):
not his favorite team to play against. So that's done
in October. My thumb on the whole team right now
is about ninety five percent up. I'm a little concert
to the injuries. Ryan Hartman is skating after getting his
nose busted open because Spurgeon. We're still late non Spurgeon.
So there are some injuries. And that was a big

(01:17:14):
talker coming in is can this team stay healthy? That
would be and so far they're doing about an okay
job of doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
One guy that didn't stay healthy last year that was
a big key down the stretch, and then two years
ago when they were in the playoffs and they lost him,
they basically fell apart. And that's Eric Sinak, and it
looks like he's going to be back tonight against Columbus,
just focusing in on him, Brett, just him exclusively. How
important to the kind of the makeup of the top

(01:17:42):
six is he when the Hines has kind of juggled
the juggled kind of the wingers around the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Top two centers. I mean, he's he's important to the
whole hockey team. And I don't something that me and
Russo off Air kind of gone back and forth on.
I'm not convinced that he has to be Like if
we went out and got a big forward and free agency,
let's say next summer, I'm not gonna be, you know,
getting my pitchfork and torch to go over to Saint

(01:18:10):
Paul if Eric Sinek is centering a really good third line.
But as the team is constructed right now, I mean
he's one of the most important players on this team.
End of sentence. I mean just the things that he does.
He can score, he can get in the dirty areas,
he's not afraid to go to I love to do
it that then he's he's not afraid to get in
those corners and go to the dirty areas. But he

(01:18:30):
does Max at the Strip Club I'll leave it at that,
catching strays over the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Texas. He's not happy right now because he's not. Dylan
from Northfield said, I bet the corner's office is thrilled.
Max keeps talking about the strip clubs.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
It wasn't me that time, so it wasn't yes exactly. Yeah, No,
Eric Sex's really good going from strip clubs to Rik
Sinactually he's really good. And he rounds out this lineup
very well. And when he's gone, it is a notice difference.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Brett Blake Moore, you said, you're I'm not trying to,
you know, bait you into being negative. You're largely positive
on this Wild team thus far into the season. But
you said ninety five percent up? Where where where's that
remaining five percent? That?

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
What concerns do you have about this Wild team early on?
I mean, to me, it's it's still the the injuries
in the sp If Spursion is down with a long
term bit right and and he's still in the healing
process of the injury that he had last year. That
is a giant concern because he's not getting any younger,
and he's not old in human terms, but for hockey
player terms, he's no Spry chicken and the game is

(01:19:34):
still physical, the game is still rough and tough, and
he's a smaller guy. I just have concerns if he's
if if he's our captain, I don't buy the whole
you know he's you get that text a lot. Spurgeon's
the only reason that we've never gotten out of the
first round because he's so small and he can't do
anything out there. It's like, that's just ridiculous. In my opinion.

(01:19:55):
I think he's a really good hockey player, but if
he's not out on the ice, and he can't be
a really good hockey player. So that to me is
a giant concern.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
On the d.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
And Eric Sanak and Ryan Hartman both needing essentially new
noses is not great either, So that's my biggest concern.
And the depth scoring is so far, so good. Johansson
so far so good. Boldie has been unbelievable. So if
the depth scoring can hold out and then get a
little bit healthier, I like their chances to at least
make the playoffs and see what happens last one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
For me, Brett blakemore because I'm trying to be mindful
of the time. So we actually have time for the
fan corpris segment for once, and I know you're locked
in on the Wild that I don't know how much
you're you're You've gotten a chance to look at some
of the Central Division rivals and foes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
But how's the competition looking so far early on into
the season.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
I mean, it's going to be a tough division. It
always is a tough division. The one team that that
when I was talking with fall in this ding, when
I was talking to Russo ding, that they're kind of
expecting to take a step back as actually to Colorado,
which is kind of interesting because they still the fan
has learned, still have car they still have McKinnon, but
they're just expecting them to not have as good of

(01:21:04):
a year. But Dallas is going to be really good.
The Preds, I do expect at some point we'll get
off their schneid. I don't know how they're going for
but I expect them to start winning hockey games eventually.
They made a lot of really good moves in the offseason.
The Blackhawks still stink, which gives me immense joy. So
I think the Wild have every chance to make the playoffs.

(01:21:25):
Can they get third? Can they get fourth? In the
visional to be a wild card. That's kind of I
think where they're at as of now, unless things change.
I think the one team that that Brett didn't mention
that is not to be screwed with is Utah. I
mean they've gotten off to a tremendous.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Sounds wrong, I know it does right, but they are
they are the art the artist formally known as the Coyotes,
and they have a lot of young talent. I mean
they are only going to get better and they really
are building something special there. It just goes to show you,
like we're talking about the pole ads and selling even
everything else the NHL. I mean that guy was quick

(01:22:02):
to snap up that team and put them right in
Salt Lake City. I mean it's a it's a gold
mine there, and that's a that's a market that only
has the Jazz and now has that hockey team, a beautiful,
brand new building and uh Utah's off to a three
to one in one start, but so in a while
they're they're undefeated in regulation and they'll take on the
Blue Jackets the seven.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
A related note to speaking of the new arena and
moving teams, I think that is something to go briefly
back to the Twins that you can kind of take
a deep breath on because they do have the nice
new ballpark where the reason Arizona was up for sale
and I can't believe the NHL put up for it
as long as they did, so they don't have an arena.
They're playing a so and Tempe denied him, and Phoenix

(01:22:41):
denied them, and Scottsdale denied them, and then they're like,
we've been sitting here for two years in a college
drink and can't do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Sorry, So well, we never have to worry about the
Minnesota whild going anywhere again. I would like to assit never,
never again, exactly again. They'll be back in action tonight
when they take on the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Puck drop around a six pm.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
I'm sure you can hear Kevin fulness during the pregame
and in between the periods and as well as the
postgame and Joe O'Donnell on lead vocals for the game.
You can listen to that right here on AFA and
you can also listen to the final segment of Worst
Case Scenario Man Favorite Nerdiest Things You've done recently.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
If you got anything that comes to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Text us six four six eight six, or you can
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Otherwise we'll take it from there. Final segment coming up next,

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final segment of worst case scenario for the week for
the question mark, question mark, question mark for the future.
We just get in where we fit in, baby, So
we're happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
First time you said that. Definitely not the first time
I've even said that this weekend. My brother last night,
maybe possibly after making it rain Oh yeah, he made
it poor.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Yeahs oh good Roasi Rose segment of More's case scenario
maybe ever after after Yeah, we close. We like to
close things out with the fan favorite segment. We leave
it all into the lovely listener's hands and you listeners
have voted that you want to hear Brett Blake Moore's

(01:24:38):
idea for nerdiest things that you've done recently. Brett Blake
Moore shared his earlier He's been watching rewatching the two
thousand and three teenage.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Mutant Ninja turn actually for the first time. Oh yeah,
rewatch it. Okay, wow, yeah, So here's how this is
next level of nerdiest. So they I don't know how long.
It was, probably half a year or so ago, maybe
a couple of months ago they put out out the
Teenager Ninja Turtle Skins on Fortnite, which is a game
that me and my friends plays. Yeah, Turtles, right, Barrero

(01:25:11):
said multiple times in these airwaves the last couple of weeks,
I'm as single as you can possibly get. So there's
you can't get much lower than that rose, So it's
you might as well just double down, you know what
I mean, go way lean into it exactly. So, so
I'm like, yo, I never really gave that franchise a shot,
you know, maybe i'd like it, And I did some

(01:25:32):
research and everyone said, like the two thousand and three
ones the best one, and that's the one you'll like
if it's more like adult theme. So I've been watching it.
I'm in like the fourth fifth season right now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
I love it. So you've never seen the og nineties
Ninja Turtles movies that going in really.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
My favorites.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
Open you know that cartoon when I was a kid, Yeah,
the eighty nine one, Yes, that that early one. Yeah,
in the early nineties. Yeah. I can't get myself to
watch the live it just looks ridiculous. It's so good though,
I can't do it. It's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
It's like, I don't even think it's one of.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Those things where it's just you know, nostalgia, because I've
rewatched it and it's still really funny. Obviously it's not
gonna be a groundbreaking action or anything like that, but
it's it's a great movie. Man. I love the first two.
The third one is terrible, but the first two were.
And the Ninja Turtles, I mean, they are a cultural phenomenon.
If you look up, there's there is a video Early
Oprah that she brought on the Ninja Turtles for.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
An interview on on Early Oprah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
So I do got to ask, who's your favorite Ninja
turtle though? Oh it's slam Dunk Leonardo's the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Past of course. Oh yeah, I love and I love
me some Mikey too. No don Tello love No, No.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Die Hard number two. Do they keep the team on track?

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
And the new movie, I'll highly recommend it is like
Seth Rogan produced it. The new iteration animation. Yeah, it's
really good. I haven't seen the TV show yet though,
it's all right. Yeah, that's good yeah, i'd recommend.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
I love the new movie. It felt like they made
them Ninja Turtles for this generation. It felt authentic to
what the Ninja Turtles would be like.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
It wasn't like a boomer trying no offense, trying to
write gen z slang, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Like it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
It felt pretty authentic. That was the tea. So what's
the nerdiest thing you guys have done recently? I'll be uh,
I'll be quick with mine.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
On the on the trip to London and then the
trip back, I watched basically two full seasons of a
show that I was a diehard fan of about ten
or fifteen years ago, and that's a show called Glee.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
So that was a show that was on Fox about Yeah,
I know you guys gonna laugh at that. I'm a gleek. Yeah,
I was a gleek back in the day. I loved
gleek is what you do with you launched, like the
spit out of your mouth. That's what gleeking is, clearly.
But also Glee fans back in the day were called that,
like super fans were called Glee.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
You were identifying gleek.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, I didn't actually know that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Actually, yeah, I actually saw the performance of Glee. They
went around the country. I guess the popularity was so big.
They toured different areas and stuff. I remember seeing them
at Radio City Music Hall. Their performance of Don't Stop
Believing was I think it charted I Believe to all
the way to the top of the Billboard charts.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
At one point.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
They were a super you know, popular thing back I
don't know twenty ten, I want to say, but yeah,
I was super into Glee, and I was like, yeah,
you know what I'm gonna do on this flight, I'm
going to watch Glee preloaded.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Did the love come back?

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Well, yeah I did.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
I did the music music. Yeah, right there, he was
giving me a preview. I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
The music was great and the storylines were great, although
it was really sad because there's like a cursive Glee.
A couple of the stars in the show have passed
away since then, including Finn Hudson and Corey Monteith and
Ny Rivera who plays Santana so and and Gee, and
obviously Mark Soling, who was That's another story for hisself.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
But again, yeah, Glee was a great show. Max. How
about you?

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
What a great note.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Really not in the room up all right, not so much, gleam.
I would probably be playing. I've been playing a fan
made Pokemon game recently. Okay, yeah, so leave it to
me to be to find a bootleg version of a
game that's been out for twenty plus years. But I've
been playing fan made a fan made Pokemon game, and
I am loving it, and I'm not ashamed of my nerdiness,
and I'm not ashamed of the job we did today

(01:29:36):
on worstall scenario.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Thanks for hanging out with me, boys, absolutely thanks for
hanging out with me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Yeah, it was a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
When I see y on, we appreciate all you lovely
listeners for hanging out with us too. We'll be back
when we're back in the meantime, Vikings tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Let's go six and O babies, cal