July 31, 2024 • 35 mins
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The big story, Leader Ishmael Hania killed in Tehran on
Iranian soil, the head of hamas there for the inauguration
of a new president. The ayah Toola is swearing revenge.
What does this do to hostage releases and cease fire talks? Worse,
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what does this mean for escalation of war in the
Middle East. Meanwhile, officials from the Secret Service and FBI
faced a grilling on Capitol Hill over the assassination attempt
to former President Donald Trump not expected to lower interest
rates today but leave them at a twenty three year high.
And Vice President Kamala Harris not only daring Donald Trump
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to a debate, but bigger than a giraffe is the
old expression my father used, actually attacking Donald Trump for
not walking the talk when it comes to immigration. She
the czar presiding over this crisis, is saying Donald Trump
is the border problem. Good luck with that.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
One.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Joining us now is Chris Walker, who is a Republican
consultant analyst. Interesting that she would take on Donald Trump
on a position he clearly owns. How's that one going
to work out? From the political strategy standpoint?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
It's an interesting you know, what's the line from Dodgeball?
That's a bold strategy, cod let's people works out for
you know, that's probably if there's one issue that everyone
thinks about Donald Trump on, it's the immigration issue. He
literally single handedly took an issue that Republicans were afraid
to talk about for twenty years and turn it into
the most premitent issue were even Democrats are talking about
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it now. I don't think that's going to be a
long term netwin for Harris, but you know, I appreciate
the effort with which she is trying to continue to
gas like the American public on her record.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, but that's a total that's a total. Guest had
she come out and said, you know what, We've made
a lot of mistakes, but elect me. I'm going to
finish the wall. I'm going to secure the border. We're
going to find out where this fentanyl's coming from. We're
going to I mean, at least, you know you got
a fighting chance with that. But to try to sell
everybody that you know, Donald Trump is a border fraud
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and she has always been the border solution and then
well listen and then dismount with a quote of a rapper.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been talking a
big game about securing our border, but he does not
walk the walk.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Or as my frand Quavo would say, he.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Does not walk it like he talks to me.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
All right, So let me ask you this too, by
the way, because you know, Jeffrey for one, firmly believes
they're paying people to show up at these rallies. All right,
So Joe Biden, there'd be smatterings, not even a hundred
at some rallies. Now suddenly there's throngs of people not
just behind her but in the crowd, some estimate ten
thousand yesterday. Any chance they're paying to fill these talking engagements?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I mean, you know, that's that's their strike. It's the
reason why these you know, hamasterra show up and uh,
you know, we show up in buses, you know, like
they're obviously big Bay that coordinated to do. So, you know,
it's why they're doing these zoom calls to to artificially
inflate their numbers rather than try to present, you know,
try to try to show the enthusiasm on the Trump side.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
This is all theater. You can only imagine the theater
ahead in Chicago. That's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
But I mean they're gonna have their own problems in
Chicago with the protesters and everything else. That's trying to
come there. But you know, let's let's not one thing
that we need to remember. And I mean, you know,
this is an engaged audience. You know, you and I
followed us every day. I think Harris is banking on,
you know, the vast majority of voters who aren't paying
attention and are watching the media and are sensing this
Harris reboot from it from a full time media effort
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to try to you know, kind of paint her as
the you know, amalgamation of Beyonce and and Barack Obama
repped in one. You know, she's able to do these
things because she's not going to have a press that
calls her out on it because they're in the business
of trying to elevate her. So you know, it's going
to be incumbent on us and on you know, Republicans
and others to really highlight that record and show because
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right now she's a white slate for a lot of people.
Aside from you know, maybe her laughing and her being
the VP, they don't know much about a record because
he's a backbench senator and what's the first candidate out
of the race of twenty twenty as a primary candidate.
So you know, I understand why she's doing some of
this because ultimately she's going to see how far she
can get away with stuff and see how much that's competentious,
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you know, impact her. The real lesson here is again
it's Democrats he phones are going to win. And so
she tried to sound like a Republican now in certain degree.
And it's up to comment on everyone to show her
record for real and which well she coru is and
now who she's pretending to be right now?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And to that point, the Trump campaign release this. I'm
Donald J. Trump, and I approved this message.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
This is America's borders are and she's failed us under
Harris over ten million illegally here a quarter of a
million Americans dead from bedmar breving, migrant crimes and hiards,
and isis now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Here you have any plan? I guess they get it
and they're on it. On task. Republican consultant analyst Chris
Walker joining us. Boy, the media pivot is breathtaking, isn't it.
I told the audience that, you know, we had a
chance a couple of weeks ago to see what things
would be like if journalism wasn't dead. Everybody handling the
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assassination properly, the hearings in Congress properly, you know, covering
Joe Biden and what was clearly hidden they were part
of hiding it. I mean, they really kind of are
revealing their own scandal and the movement to remove Joe.
Now that he's gone, they're right back to being the
narrative arm of the Democrat Party. It's breathtaking that they
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would do it so quickly, and so obviously.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
The Democrats of the need back together again. Know, It's
just they had three weeks of honesty and it was
too much for them. So they had they had to
get back back to doing what they need.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Such a lonely one, all right. So uh, and then
we have the claims that Donald Trump says Google and
Facebook and others are playing some games with algorithms concerning
the assassination. Again, this shouldn't shock people. This was the
shadow campaign to save the democracy. They controlled the narrative
with the mainstream media. They silence any opposing views because
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they control technocracy. The problem is they couldn't hide Joe,
and now he's gone, and they got to try to
hide the affiliation of Kamala. They don't own Twitter, which
is now X, and uh, the American people have social
media a lot more than they did even four years ago. Uh,
this is gonna be a it's gonna be it's gonna
be interesting to see if America can avoid the narrative
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see of just pure narrative propaganda versus their own human
reality and the cost at the pump, the cost at
the grocery store, the border crisis and such. Right there
is a political reality versus a narrative fantasy, and it's
up to voters to connect those dots, right.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Yeah, I mean engaged citizenry and informed citizenaries is you know,
critical to a functioning in republic and that's something thanking
this Elons, you know Bot Twitter, where I think is
the same the same social media is there, Thank goodness
for Elon, but Twitter was under the same algorithmic you know,
uh suppression that that we're seeing with Facebook and Google
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right now. Thankfully you have X out there to say,
you know, to highlight this and not suppress people.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Even trying to highlight that.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So you know, you and I get to talk about
this now in a way where we don't sound crazy,
because ultimately people can see with their own eyes rather
than you know, people bind you multic said, we're not
doing that. You know, we're not hiding the Hunter Biden
laptop or you know things like that that they obviously
were doing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I still get some emails I think I'm crazy. But
having said that, let's get to our topic of the day.
To veep or not to veep tis the question for
Mama La Kamala. Is there anyone Republicans should fear in
this choice?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I think Shapiro is probably her best option, just because.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, that's not going to be that's not going to
happen now, especially with the latest developments going out in
the Middle East. But it's possible.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
But let's not forget what you know. John Fetterman, you know,
it's been as pro Israel as as they come as
a Democrat, and he was the third least popular senator,
and after he came out there and argued with the
Hamas protesters, he became one of the most popular. So
from a political standpoint, I think they're they're creating on
bad information if they think that being pro Israel is
somehow bad politics, it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
No, it would be it would be good politics. But
remember what you just said. A few minutes ago about
nineteen sixty eight rearing its ugly head in Chicago again.
They've got a convention weeks away, and if they go
with Shapiro, that's gonna feed the flames of protests.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Well they're gonna they you know, this race ultimately hinges
on Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Whoever wins those three is
gonna win, irrespect of Arizona about it, And I think
those three tend to will tend to go together. And
if you put Shapiro in there and put you know,
take Pennsylvania off the map and basically make this a
Michigan and the Assauntan race, that puts in a much
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better position to win. And ultimately, you know, yes, we're
gonna have protesters that you know will be against it,
but you can be against them too and raise your
own numbers if they're smart. Politically, I think Shapiro makes
the most sense. Martins out there too. I think he's
obviously a strong candidate's being a you know, from Arizona,
a saltswing state, and an astronaut at that. But politically speaking,
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if I were, if they're taking advice from me, and
they will not, but I think Shapiro is kind.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Of the best choice.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
But let's not forget when he was a g he
was a rabid liberal, and there's a lot the similar
vein of in terms of his record, in terms of
being very lenient on prime and other things too. He's
being seen as a very positive person right now, but
once his records peel back a little bit, you'll see
ironical just as much as Tamala.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Is well, he's young. There is a match to Kamala's
worldview and policy views. I get that there are problems
within the party with a Jewish candidate. They can't address
Michigan because I think there'd be a problem with two
women on the ticket. I don't know that there's a
play in Wisconsin, and at least Kelly in a play
in Arizona. To me, the game changers would make me
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go if I was a Republican Wow, if they could
bridge the gap with RFK and take away his spoiling
vote in those swing states, that'd be far more impactful.
So the only one that I think is a game
changer would be Harris Kennedy. I agree with you, Shapiro
is the right choice. You've got. You have no path
without Pennsylvania. With Pennsylvania, you make a difficult path for
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Donald Trump. I mean, to me, that's just such a
no brainer. If you can get around the Eye Israel problem,
you can't do two from California. So new Sim's out.
I don't know that there's any other. It just seems
so obvious that she's gonna go Kelly. But I may
be surprised, but Shapiro, you would think is the smartest move.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Well, there's there's these reports outs that she's gonna make
her pick by Tuesday, and I think for first event,
her first joint event is going to be in Philadelphia.
I mean, they're almost like trying to telegraph them for
you to a certain degree.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's kind of like the.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Time when Romney was telling people that it wasn't going
to be Paul Ryan in their first minut was scheduled
for the USS Wisconsin stuff. Because there's a little bit
of a you know, we'll see. But it seems to
me that they're kind of lining it up for Shapira
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But I don't, yeah, no, I don't. I don't care
about partisan political games in America nearly as much as
what is brewing in the middle East. But if you
want to combine the two, you have an assassination of
a Hamas leader on Irani and soil Iran swearing revenge.
We presume it's Israel behind this. What does this do
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for the hostage box and sees fire. What does this
do for escalation? Imagine if that's all escalating while she's
announcing a Jewish running mate with the views of some
of the radical Democrats within her party, she'll have some
new challenges, but it's clearly from an electoral college map,
the only choice.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Well to really hone in on the point, and I mean,
I agree with you that that is a big problem.
It would give me a sense of comfort that perhaps
maybe there's a more thoughtful kind of leadership string and
the Democrats, I don't necessarily believe that, but if they
do pick Shapiro and they're seeing that for what it is,
that's almost a more positive view than what we've seen
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from the Biden administration, wh's just been abject failure, And
you know, an avitation of leadership. Picking a Shapiro would
kind of signal, hey, we understand the weight of this situation,
we understand the moment, and we're not going to listen
to these praising people trying to drive us in a
direction of chaos and you know, kind of Hama sympathy,
then she would be a strong methode that would actually
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speak more to a moderate in a Republican even in
a way that they haven't done five years.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
If she would go on the offensive and claim that
she is the border solution, not Donald Trump. I think
they've got They're showing you a little bit, and their
schedule in Philadelphia on Tuesday indicates that's exactly where they're headed.
Great insights. Well, we will know by the time we
talk again next week, or guess what, we'll talk sooner
because conditions will warnt. Chris Walker analysts and consult with
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the Republican Party. Thanks for your insights. Thank you, ro
Week'll talk to you soon twenty one minutes after the hour,
and we come back your top five stories of the
day as you all. Morning show continues. This is your
Morning Show with Michael del Jono. Ismayl Hania, a leader
of Hamas killed on Iranian soil. The Ayatola is swearing
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to get revenge, that revenge directed towards Israel that could
lead to escalation, certainly delay hostage returns and fire plans.
We'll have more with John Decker and Rory O'Neil on
our top story coming up in minutes. Meanwhile, lawmakers clashed
with the acting director of the Secret Service and the
failures that took place in the attempted assassination of former
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President Donald Trump. Mark Mayfield has that story.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Tensions boiled over during our congressional hearing Tuesday, as Missouri
Senator Josh Holly pressed Acting Director Ronald Rowe to fire
officials involved in securing the Pennsylvania rally where Trump was shot.
Ally said it was clear fireable offenses occurred given that
Trump was shot and that a rally goer was killed.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Roe argued that.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
The investigation into the incident is ongoing and he will
not rush to judgment.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm Mark Neanfield. Vice president Kamala Harris will campaign in
six battleground states next week and probably address one of
those battleground states and her choice for running me Lisa
Cardon reports.
Speaker 9 (15:48):
Harris told reporters today that she had not yet decided
who her vice presidential pick would be, but she's expected
to announce by August seventh in order to meet at
Ohio deadline to make it on the ballot Arizona. I'm
a Senator Mark Kelly, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, Minnesota Governor
Tim Walls, and Transportation Secretary Pete Boodhajij are among those
being considered.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm Lisa Carton. Well, let's just put it this way.
We know she's going to be in Philadelphia on Tuesday.
They're expected to make the announcement on Tuesday. Does that
point to Shapiro. I'll let you connect the dots. For
President Trump is accusing Facebook and Google of restricting content
related to his assassination attempt. Tammy Trihilo has more.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
In a post on truth Social Trump claimed the tech
giants made it virtually impossible to find pictures or anything
related to the shooting, and accuse the companies of trying
to help rig the twenty twenty four election. This comes
after Facebook acknowledge it mistakenly censored the image of Trump
raising his fist following the shooting. Earlier this month, a
post sharing the image was mistakenly flagged as misinformation. I'm
(16:52):
Tammy Trichello.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Jimmy Kimmel's out at the Oscars. Phil Hewlett reports.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Kimmel reportedly turned down the offer to host the ceremony
for a few time, and according to several entertainment outlets,
comedian John mulaney has also turned down the job. It
is unclear who will host the ninety seventh Academy Awards
presentations that are scheduled to be held on March second
of next year at the Dolby Theater in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm Phil Julett. Well, we got gold in the team
women's gymnastics and we head into today with twenty six
total medads, leading the world at the Paris Olympic Games.
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I'm Michael Del Johno, hamas leader Ismail Hania was killed
in Tehran there for the Inauga generation of Iran's new president.
Israel has not taken credit for this, and they rarely do.
Though they had vowed to get all of the Hamas
leaders after the October seventh attacks in Israel, the Ayatola
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is now vowing to get revenge. Escalation, Yes, the potential
for it. What does this do for the hostage release?
What does this do for the cease fire talks? It
shows that Israel is not going to distinguish between proxy
fighters and the ultimate home of their origins, Iran, and
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the potential for escalation exists. So we had planned to
talk to John Decker about Defense Secretary of Austin saying
the US will defend Israel if has bilot attacks from
Lebanon should continue. We have that going on in an assassination,
into taking out of a commander and a missile strike
in Lebanon. It's got a lot of people, John wondering,
you know, while we're trying to figure out who's going
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to run this country. Donald Trump saying, well, this wouldn't
have happened if I was president. When push comes to
shab America will stand by Israel. Right, Well, that's right.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
In fact, yesterday with that retaliatory strike taken by Israel
against Hasbala in the suburbs of Beirut, the Vice President
Kamala Harris said, definitively and firmly, Israel has a right
to defend itself. So I think what you're going to
see as this campaign wears on is likely very little daylight,
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certainly between Kamala Harris and the President, but also I
would imagine very little daylight between the vice president and
a former president Donald Trump on the issue of Israel.
So we see time after time and interview after interview
the former president trying to create some divisions among Jewish
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voters in particular. But we also see the response coming
from the Vice President than herself when asked about this,
and it seems to me she is firmly, strongly, you know,
in the position of expressing strong support for the state
of Israel and what they've been going through since October
of last year.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
How different things look twenty four hours later. Now, would
this assassination on Iranian soil and the Ayatola pledging revenge,
this could escalate to a much different level.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Well, it could, and I think you know, if you're Israel,
you calculate that into what you decide you want to do.
This is certainly sending a message to Iran we can
attack inside your sovereign territory anytime with impunity. That's end
a strong message. And of course we know that Iran
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several months ago launched those drone stripes that were not
effective against Israel. They weren't effective because the US helped
in terms of shooting down many of those drones. Very
little them got actually into Israeli airspace.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
John, it's a big difference if Israel is fighting directly
with Iran and not through proxies.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Right, Yeah, that's right. It is a big difference. And
I think that you know, Iran has to calculate the
extent to which it wants to escalate tensions in the
Middle East, you know, in terms of what that would mean,
and what it would mean actually in terms of the
ongoing war that Israel is having with Amas.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's what you know.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
They're fighting on the primary front in Gaza. Israel now
also dealing with Hisbala in its north. We saw the
attack that led to the retaliatory strike happening earlier this
week in the Goal on heights controlled by Israel. So
Israel's dealing with on many fronts with a lot of
proxies as you call them, of Iran. Iran backs Hamas,
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it backs Hisbala and of course this attack happening just
within the past twenty four hours inside Iran and its
capital city of Tehran and dare I bring.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Up out loud that if Hamas and Hesbalah are a
proxy of Iran, Iran is a proxy in China, and
the potential for this escalate beyond even anything we can imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Right, Yeah, I think that's right, And it does complicate
efforts as it relates to peace talks, cease fire talks that.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Had been ongoing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
In fact, the CIA director just in the past week
back in Europe and Rome trying to reach some sort
of peace deal. This complicates those efforts in the sense
that the person who was assassinated was a political leader
for Hamas involved in those peace talks. Actually, but as
you know, of Michael, those peace talks really think about
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it this way, they haven't gone anywhere since last October. Yes,
initially in the first three weeks there was a release
of some hostages, but those hostages that remain there, including
American hostages. They remain there despite all of the ongoing talks,
despite all of the shuttle diplomacy that has been ongoing
by the US over the court the last nine months.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, and then the question of just how many, if
any hostages are still alive? Then is that a part
of the delay? Anthony Blincoln, Secretary of State, Secretary of
Defense Austin, and remind everybody, Joe Biden, President I said
they got a real diplomatic hurdle in order to keep
this from escalating. That's for sure. Well they do.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
And we heard from the Defense Secretary yesterday before we
knew about, before that assassination took place in Iran, saying
that the US would come to Israel's defense if Israel
has attacked from by Hsbala. We don't know what that entail.
Certainly would not entail boots on the ground, certainly would
not involve let's say, you know, US fighter jets involved
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in any particular fight against Isbala. But we've seen how
the US the Biden administration has provided significant military support
to Israel since October the seventh and their fight against Tamas,
and I would imagine that will certainly continue.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Supreme Court bar attorney and White House correspondent John Decker
as always great reporting. We'll talk again tomorrow. Thank you.
Can't have your morning show without your voice. And so
we got this email from Joshua who writes, Michael D.
This truly is my morning show. I don't miss it. Well,
thank you for that. I have an important question with
all of the unrest in the Middle East. What happens
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if we declare some type of participation Joe can't command
and Kamala is completely inept. What happens with the election, etc. Okay,
that's a big blank word in participation. If when you
say participation you mean jets, bombs, boots on the ground.
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We just addressed that that doesn't seem very likely unless
things escalate dramatically with Iron's involvement in terms of support
of Israel. Look, you know, I think we live in silos. Okay,
So there are a lot of people that think Joe
is senile and capable of being commander in chief, and
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they've seen enough on television to have that genuine concern.
So the reality is, Yeah, the same people that told
you Joe was fine, then all United be it the media,
be it members of Congress, be it Kamala herself in
a sense, and that Joe needs to go. But they
didn't have him leave office, They just had him leave
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the race. Well, if you're cognitively impaired and incapable of
running for president, are you not incapable of being president?
So I get where your concern is coming from. As
far as Kamala Harris, she has no foreign policy experience
prior to being vice president, that's obvious, other than being
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a United States Senator for a short period of time
and then a prosecutor in the state of California. So
that may concern you. I might add that H. W.
Bush was a governor and a member of the Texas
Air National Guard and won a presidency based on a
court decision after hanging chads in a debate over lock
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boxes and social security. So you either have confidence in
your government advisors or you don't. You also have right concerns.
This administration has kind of struggled at times in standing
behind Israel. I think they've learned that lesson they're going
to have to make a choice and it's going to
be forced upon them. They can continue to capitulate to
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the far left, anti Israel quite frankly anti American voices
within their party or do what is nationally required, and
I suspect that they will that much. I agree with
John Decker. If Kamala Harris is wise enough to flip this,
literally flip the script and suddenly become pro Israel and
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choose Shapiro as a running mate, she gets a domestic
Liberal just like her, and she puts a a Jewish
person on the ticket with her. That could send some
clear messages, but ultimately a lot can happen, A lot
can happen between now and the convention. And if she
does that, and all indications are Tuesdays, she's going to
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be in Philadelphia Tuesdays when they're indicating she's going to
announce her veep. She's targeting all the swing states, the biggest,
the only one that you know you lose Philadelphia. There
is no path for the Democrats. So all indications are
I think the signaling it's going to be Shapiro. Most
people think it's going to be Kelly in Arizona, but
it looks like it might be Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Well, that,
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along with this escalation in the Middle East, could really
gas things up for the Chicago convention where it was
in sixty eight and it lost control over anti war
Vietnam protesters. You may have anti Israel protesters really invade Chicago.
So this is all interesting, But look, the only thing
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that she'd send you to your knee ease praying is
the security of Israel and the security of the world.
Iran is a loose cannon with a nuclear weapon and
they're voluing to get revenge for an assassination on their soil.
Will this become no longer an Iranian proxy war but
(28:18):
an Israeli Iranian war? And don't forget Iran is a
proxy war with Russia and China, and that enters World War.
At the conversation, that's what your eye needs to be on,
and that's what you need to be praying about.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Hi. I'm Keith Andrews and Mobile Alabama, and my morning
show is your Morning show with Michael del Jarnal.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
At your morning show on Michael del Jorna. Well, officials
from Secret Service and FBI faced a grilling in Capitol
Hill yesterday over the assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump.
You got a new active Secret Service director, but you
got the same We gotta wait and see and investigate,
and lack of firing and action. Federal Reserve not expect
(29:00):
to lower interest rates today. They'll remain at a twenty
three year high. Although you can have hopes of rate
cuts maybe later in September October, but the inflation number
just not near enough to two percent to get it
done now. Vice President Kamala Harris is daring Donald Trump
to debate. So far, Donald Trump has said he will
debate her, just not on ABC, and she's taking him
(29:21):
on head on over the border, claiming he's the failure,
not her. He don't walk the talk. And our far
and away biggest story. The Hamas leader Ismayo Hanea was
killed in tron there for the new president's inauguration, assassinated.
Israel has not taken credit for the assassination, though it
(29:42):
is assumed it was Israel. They had vowed to take
out Hamas leaders for the October seventh invasion that killed
over twelve hundred Israelis, but have yet to take credit
for it. The Ayatola is vowing to get revenge. Roory
O'Neil always gets the final story and this is a
big one. This is the fight between Israel. Hamas and
(30:03):
Hesbelah a proxy of Iran and something that's etioned closer
to a direct confrontation with Iran. How do you get
kudl or has to prevail? Now?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, what's next is the big question? And as you
talked about that Hamas political leader assassinated in Iran. So
there's embarrassment by Iranian military officials that this was allowed
to happen on their watch while this man was essentially
visiting them for this presidential inauguration. And then there's the
other story connected to this, Hesbola's top military commander was
(30:35):
killed by another Israeli strike, this one happening in Beirut.
So here you have, we believe is Reel's military striking
both into Beirut and to Tehran twice within what a
twelve hour period, taking up two top people from Hesbalah
and Hamas.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I know your news and I know on talk, but
just hear me out. I'm not implying this, I'm just suggesting.
Imagine how different things would have been if Donald Donald
Trump doesn't turn at that exact moment to look at
a graphic. We still don't know if there and we
know Iran has a Fatwa out against Trump to take
him out. We don't know if there's ties to the
(31:13):
shooter or Iran yet, but imagine if we were waking
up this morning and our former president and he who
was leading at the time was assassinated. Now the Hamas
leader is assassinated, the commander of Hesbellah taken out in
a missile strike, and Iran vowing to get revenge against Israel.
I mean, you get a much different view of the picture,
(31:35):
don't you. It really is about what's going The epicenter
of the world is the Middle East, and this is
as dangerous as it's been in a long time.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, and again we're trying to see now how countries
like Iran respond to this.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Remember Iran did launch that drone.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Attack a couple months ago after Israel had gotten aggressive
and firing into Iran. So we do know that that
a back and forth does happen. We are expecting more
of a bad back and forth after the weekend strike
that killed twelve people in the Golan Heights, twelve children,
and we've seen more missile activity there. So yeah, the
(32:12):
question is does this suddenly branch out into that broader
conflict or is that is this what it's going to look.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Like, and what potentially it concerns me the most is
if Hezbelah and Hamas are a proxy of Iran and
Israel gets it. And that's part of why it was
done on Iranian soil and not stopped by being on
Iranian soil. Now you've got a direct conflict between Israel
and Iran. And don't forget Iran is a proxy of
Russia and China. Now you're talking world war all right,
(32:40):
let's do the news side of this. What does this
do to the hostage release plans and cease fire talks,
because now the talks turned to keeping this from escalating
into it all out war.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Well, the talk was that as the political head of Hamas,
Hania was involved in a lot of those negotiations to
try to get the host is released. Now, look, some
of the people who defend Hamas are saying, oh, this
guy was a real peacemaker and vital to all this.
We'll see, I mean in depth. His reputation certainly is
(33:11):
getting the spit shine. But you know, you know, obviously
there's a lot of anxiety and just so many unknowns.
They got the our Defense secretary was in the Philippines
and questioned about it, so they barely knew anything about it.
Israel did not consult the US before making this strike,
and again, the fact that the strike was in Tehran
(33:32):
is remarkable that Israel was able to pull it off.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, yeah, it shows their capabilities. You brought up the
best point and the embarrassment. This guy's in a guest house,
he's a guest of Iran. He's being protected by Iran
and the presumably the Revolutionary Guard involved, and they still
get the kill. But the fact that the assassination of
Ismail Hanaya is in Iran and the missile strike that
(33:57):
takes out the Hesba La commander is in Lebanon. That's
what makes these different, right, well exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And the problematic Yeah, who is feeling his oats, you know,
feeling that he can make these kinds of aggressive moves
as well. That's pretty interesting too.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Any chance this was discussed when he was recently here
in America, either with Kamala Harris, Vice President or sitting
President Joe Biden, prior to it being carried out.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
From what we've heard from Blincoln and Austin, it doesn't
seem like the US was keyed in.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
At least not on what happened in Iran, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
What's been happening with hes Blah into Lebanon that's sort
of been bubbling up and brewing the past few weeks.
So it's not a terrible surprise what happened there.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Time to stop playing politics in America, unite in prayer
for Israel and peace in the Middle East, in the
security of us all. Thanks Roy, great reporting. As always,
fifty eight minutes after the hour, there's another rap. Keep
an eye on this. This is troubling stuff in the
Middle East, and we certainly will on that and the
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The big story, Leader Ishmael Hania killed in Tehran on
Iranian soil, the head of hamas there for the inauguration
of a new president. The ayah Toola is swearing revenge.
What does this do to hostage releases and cease fire talks? Worse,
(01:18):
what does this mean for escalation of war in the
Middle East. Meanwhile, officials from the Secret Service and FBI
faced a grilling on Capitol Hill over the assassination attempt
to former President Donald Trump not expected to lower interest
rates today but leave them at a twenty three year high.
And Vice President Kamala Harris not only daring Donald Trump
(01:39):
to a debate, but bigger than a giraffe is the
old expression my father used, actually attacking Donald Trump for
not walking the talk when it comes to immigration. She
the czar presiding over this crisis, is saying Donald Trump
is the border problem. Good luck with that.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
One.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Joining us now is Chris Walker, who is a Republican
consultant analyst. Interesting that she would take on Donald Trump
on a position he clearly owns. How's that one going
to work out? From the political strategy standpoint?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
It's an interesting you know, what's the line from Dodgeball?
That's a bold strategy, cod let's people works out for
you know, that's probably if there's one issue that everyone
thinks about Donald Trump on, it's the immigration issue. He
literally single handedly took an issue that Republicans were afraid
to talk about for twenty years and turn it into
the most premitent issue were even Democrats are talking about
(02:37):
it now. I don't think that's going to be a
long term netwin for Harris, but you know, I appreciate
the effort with which she is trying to continue to
gas like the American public on her record.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, but that's a total that's a total. Guest had
she come out and said, you know what, We've made
a lot of mistakes, but elect me. I'm going to
finish the wall. I'm going to secure the border. We're
going to find out where this fentanyl's coming from. We're
going to I mean, at least, you know you got
a fighting chance with that. But to try to sell
everybody that you know, Donald Trump is a border fraud
(03:10):
and she has always been the border solution and then
well listen and then dismount with a quote of a rapper.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been talking a
big game about securing our border, but he does not
walk the walk.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Or as my frand Quavo would say, he.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Does not walk it like he talks to me.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
All right, So let me ask you this too, by
the way, because you know, Jeffrey for one, firmly believes
they're paying people to show up at these rallies. All right,
So Joe Biden, there'd be smatterings, not even a hundred
at some rallies. Now suddenly there's throngs of people not
just behind her but in the crowd, some estimate ten
thousand yesterday. Any chance they're paying to fill these talking engagements?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I mean, you know, that's that's their strike. It's the
reason why these you know, hamasterra show up and uh,
you know, we show up in buses, you know, like
they're obviously big Bay that coordinated to do. So, you know,
it's why they're doing these zoom calls to to artificially
inflate their numbers rather than try to present, you know,
try to try to show the enthusiasm on the Trump side.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
This is all theater. You can only imagine the theater
ahead in Chicago. That's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
But I mean they're gonna have their own problems in
Chicago with the protesters and everything else. That's trying to
come there. But you know, let's let's not one thing
that we need to remember. And I mean, you know,
this is an engaged audience. You know, you and I
followed us every day. I think Harris is banking on,
you know, the vast majority of voters who aren't paying
attention and are watching the media and are sensing this
Harris reboot from it from a full time media effort
(04:52):
to try to you know, kind of paint her as
the you know, amalgamation of Beyonce and and Barack Obama
repped in one. You know, she's able to do these
things because she's not going to have a press that
calls her out on it because they're in the business
of trying to elevate her. So you know, it's going
to be incumbent on us and on you know, Republicans
and others to really highlight that record and show because
(05:14):
right now she's a white slate for a lot of people.
Aside from you know, maybe her laughing and her being
the VP, they don't know much about a record because
he's a backbench senator and what's the first candidate out
of the race of twenty twenty as a primary candidate.
So you know, I understand why she's doing some of
this because ultimately she's going to see how far she
can get away with stuff and see how much that's competentious,
(05:36):
you know, impact her. The real lesson here is again
it's Democrats he phones are going to win. And so
she tried to sound like a Republican now in certain degree.
And it's up to comment on everyone to show her
record for real and which well she coru is and
now who she's pretending to be right now?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And to that point, the Trump campaign release this. I'm
Donald J. Trump, and I approved this message.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
This is America's borders are and she's failed us under
Harris over ten million illegally here a quarter of a
million Americans dead from bedmar breving, migrant crimes and hiards,
and isis now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Here you have any plan? I guess they get it
and they're on it. On task. Republican consultant analyst Chris
Walker joining us. Boy, the media pivot is breathtaking, isn't it.
I told the audience that, you know, we had a
chance a couple of weeks ago to see what things
would be like if journalism wasn't dead. Everybody handling the
(06:32):
assassination properly, the hearings in Congress properly, you know, covering
Joe Biden and what was clearly hidden they were part
of hiding it. I mean, they really kind of are
revealing their own scandal and the movement to remove Joe.
Now that he's gone, they're right back to being the
narrative arm of the Democrat Party. It's breathtaking that they
(06:53):
would do it so quickly, and so obviously.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
The Democrats of the need back together again. Know, It's
just they had three weeks of honesty and it was
too much for them. So they had they had to
get back back to doing what they need.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Such a lonely one, all right. So uh, and then
we have the claims that Donald Trump says Google and
Facebook and others are playing some games with algorithms concerning
the assassination. Again, this shouldn't shock people. This was the
shadow campaign to save the democracy. They controlled the narrative
with the mainstream media. They silence any opposing views because
(07:31):
they control technocracy. The problem is they couldn't hide Joe,
and now he's gone, and they got to try to
hide the affiliation of Kamala. They don't own Twitter, which
is now X, and uh, the American people have social
media a lot more than they did even four years ago. Uh,
this is gonna be a it's gonna be it's gonna
be interesting to see if America can avoid the narrative
(07:56):
see of just pure narrative propaganda versus their own human
reality and the cost at the pump, the cost at
the grocery store, the border crisis and such. Right there
is a political reality versus a narrative fantasy, and it's
up to voters to connect those dots, right.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Yeah, I mean engaged citizenry and informed citizenaries is you know,
critical to a functioning in republic and that's something thanking
this Elons, you know Bot Twitter, where I think is
the same the same social media is there, Thank goodness
for Elon, but Twitter was under the same algorithmic you know,
uh suppression that that we're seeing with Facebook and Google
(08:37):
right now. Thankfully you have X out there to say,
you know, to highlight this and not suppress people.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Even trying to highlight that.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So you know, you and I get to talk about
this now in a way where we don't sound crazy,
because ultimately people can see with their own eyes rather
than you know, people bind you multic said, we're not
doing that. You know, we're not hiding the Hunter Biden
laptop or you know things like that that they obviously
were doing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I still get some emails I think I'm crazy. But
having said that, let's get to our topic of the day.
To veep or not to veep tis the question for
Mama La Kamala. Is there anyone Republicans should fear in
this choice?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I think Shapiro is probably her best option, just because.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, that's not going to be that's not going to
happen now, especially with the latest developments going out in
the Middle East. But it's possible.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
But let's not forget what you know. John Fetterman, you know,
it's been as pro Israel as as they come as
a Democrat, and he was the third least popular senator,
and after he came out there and argued with the
Hamas protesters, he became one of the most popular. So
from a political standpoint, I think they're they're creating on
bad information if they think that being pro Israel is
somehow bad politics, it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
No, it would be it would be good politics. But
remember what you just said. A few minutes ago about
nineteen sixty eight rearing its ugly head in Chicago again.
They've got a convention weeks away, and if they go
with Shapiro, that's gonna feed the flames of protests.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Well they're gonna they you know, this race ultimately hinges
on Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Whoever wins those three is
gonna win, irrespect of Arizona about it, And I think
those three tend to will tend to go together. And
if you put Shapiro in there and put you know,
take Pennsylvania off the map and basically make this a
Michigan and the Assauntan race, that puts in a much
(10:29):
better position to win. And ultimately, you know, yes, we're
gonna have protesters that you know will be against it,
but you can be against them too and raise your
own numbers if they're smart. Politically, I think Shapiro makes
the most sense. Martins out there too. I think he's
obviously a strong candidate's being a you know, from Arizona,
a saltswing state, and an astronaut at that. But politically speaking,
(10:50):
if I were, if they're taking advice from me, and
they will not, but I think Shapiro is kind.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Of the best choice.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
But let's not forget when he was a g he
was a rabid liberal, and there's a lot the similar
vein of in terms of his record, in terms of
being very lenient on prime and other things too. He's
being seen as a very positive person right now, but
once his records peel back a little bit, you'll see
ironical just as much as Tamala.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Is well, he's young. There is a match to Kamala's
worldview and policy views. I get that there are problems
within the party with a Jewish candidate. They can't address
Michigan because I think there'd be a problem with two
women on the ticket. I don't know that there's a
play in Wisconsin, and at least Kelly in a play
in Arizona. To me, the game changers would make me
(11:31):
go if I was a Republican Wow, if they could
bridge the gap with RFK and take away his spoiling
vote in those swing states, that'd be far more impactful.
So the only one that I think is a game
changer would be Harris Kennedy. I agree with you, Shapiro
is the right choice. You've got. You have no path
without Pennsylvania. With Pennsylvania, you make a difficult path for
(11:54):
Donald Trump. I mean, to me, that's just such a
no brainer. If you can get around the Eye Israel problem,
you can't do two from California. So new Sim's out.
I don't know that there's any other. It just seems
so obvious that she's gonna go Kelly. But I may
be surprised, but Shapiro, you would think is the smartest move.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Well, there's there's these reports outs that she's gonna make
her pick by Tuesday, and I think for first event,
her first joint event is going to be in Philadelphia.
I mean, they're almost like trying to telegraph them for
you to a certain degree.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's kind of like the.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Time when Romney was telling people that it wasn't going
to be Paul Ryan in their first minut was scheduled
for the USS Wisconsin stuff. Because there's a little bit
of a you know, we'll see. But it seems to
me that they're kind of lining it up for Shapira
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But I don't, yeah, no, I don't. I don't care
about partisan political games in America nearly as much as
what is brewing in the middle East. But if you
want to combine the two, you have an assassination of
a Hamas leader on Irani and soil Iran swearing revenge.
We presume it's Israel behind this. What does this do
(13:02):
for the hostage box and sees fire. What does this
do for escalation? Imagine if that's all escalating while she's
announcing a Jewish running mate with the views of some
of the radical Democrats within her party, she'll have some
new challenges, but it's clearly from an electoral college map,
the only choice.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Well to really hone in on the point, and I mean,
I agree with you that that is a big problem.
It would give me a sense of comfort that perhaps
maybe there's a more thoughtful kind of leadership string and
the Democrats, I don't necessarily believe that, but if they
do pick Shapiro and they're seeing that for what it is,
that's almost a more positive view than what we've seen
(13:40):
from the Biden administration, wh's just been abject failure, And
you know, an avitation of leadership. Picking a Shapiro would
kind of signal, hey, we understand the weight of this situation,
we understand the moment, and we're not going to listen
to these praising people trying to drive us in a
direction of chaos and you know, kind of Hama sympathy,
then she would be a strong methode that would actually
(14:03):
speak more to a moderate in a Republican even in
a way that they haven't done five years.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
If she would go on the offensive and claim that
she is the border solution, not Donald Trump. I think
they've got They're showing you a little bit, and their
schedule in Philadelphia on Tuesday indicates that's exactly where they're headed.
Great insights. Well, we will know by the time we
talk again next week, or guess what, we'll talk sooner
because conditions will warnt. Chris Walker analysts and consult with
(14:30):
the Republican Party. Thanks for your insights. Thank you, ro
Week'll talk to you soon twenty one minutes after the hour,
and we come back your top five stories of the
day as you all. Morning show continues. This is your
Morning Show with Michael del Jono. Ismayl Hania, a leader
of Hamas killed on Iranian soil. The Ayatola is swearing
(14:51):
to get revenge, that revenge directed towards Israel that could
lead to escalation, certainly delay hostage returns and fire plans.
We'll have more with John Decker and Rory O'Neil on
our top story coming up in minutes. Meanwhile, lawmakers clashed
with the acting director of the Secret Service and the
failures that took place in the attempted assassination of former
(15:14):
President Donald Trump. Mark Mayfield has that story.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Tensions boiled over during our congressional hearing Tuesday, as Missouri
Senator Josh Holly pressed Acting Director Ronald Rowe to fire
officials involved in securing the Pennsylvania rally where Trump was shot.
Ally said it was clear fireable offenses occurred given that
Trump was shot and that a rally goer was killed.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Roe argued that.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
The investigation into the incident is ongoing and he will
not rush to judgment.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm Mark Neanfield. Vice president Kamala Harris will campaign in
six battleground states next week and probably address one of
those battleground states and her choice for running me Lisa
Cardon reports.
Speaker 9 (15:48):
Harris told reporters today that she had not yet decided
who her vice presidential pick would be, but she's expected
to announce by August seventh in order to meet at
Ohio deadline to make it on the ballot Arizona. I'm
a Senator Mark Kelly, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, Minnesota Governor
Tim Walls, and Transportation Secretary Pete Boodhajij are among those
being considered.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm Lisa Carton. Well, let's just put it this way.
We know she's going to be in Philadelphia on Tuesday.
They're expected to make the announcement on Tuesday. Does that
point to Shapiro. I'll let you connect the dots. For
President Trump is accusing Facebook and Google of restricting content
related to his assassination attempt. Tammy Trihilo has more.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
In a post on truth Social Trump claimed the tech
giants made it virtually impossible to find pictures or anything
related to the shooting, and accuse the companies of trying
to help rig the twenty twenty four election. This comes
after Facebook acknowledge it mistakenly censored the image of Trump
raising his fist following the shooting. Earlier this month, a
post sharing the image was mistakenly flagged as misinformation. I'm
(16:52):
Tammy Trichello.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Jimmy Kimmel's out at the Oscars. Phil Hewlett reports.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Kimmel reportedly turned down the offer to host the ceremony
for a few time, and according to several entertainment outlets,
comedian John mulaney has also turned down the job. It
is unclear who will host the ninety seventh Academy Awards
presentations that are scheduled to be held on March second
of next year at the Dolby Theater in Hollywood.
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I'm Phil Julett. Well, we got gold in the team
women's gymnastics and we head into today with twenty six
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I'm Michael Del Johno, hamas leader Ismail Hania was killed
in Tehran there for the Inauga generation of Iran's new president.
Israel has not taken credit for this, and they rarely do.
Though they had vowed to get all of the Hamas
leaders after the October seventh attacks in Israel, the Ayatola
(18:14):
is now vowing to get revenge. Escalation, Yes, the potential
for it. What does this do for the hostage release?
What does this do for the cease fire talks? It
shows that Israel is not going to distinguish between proxy
fighters and the ultimate home of their origins, Iran, and
(18:38):
the potential for escalation exists. So we had planned to
talk to John Decker about Defense Secretary of Austin saying
the US will defend Israel if has bilot attacks from
Lebanon should continue. We have that going on in an assassination,
into taking out of a commander and a missile strike
in Lebanon. It's got a lot of people, John wondering,
you know, while we're trying to figure out who's going
(18:59):
to run this country. Donald Trump saying, well, this wouldn't
have happened if I was president. When push comes to
shab America will stand by Israel. Right, Well, that's right.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
In fact, yesterday with that retaliatory strike taken by Israel
against Hasbala in the suburbs of Beirut, the Vice President
Kamala Harris said, definitively and firmly, Israel has a right
to defend itself. So I think what you're going to
see as this campaign wears on is likely very little daylight,
(19:33):
certainly between Kamala Harris and the President, but also I
would imagine very little daylight between the vice president and
a former president Donald Trump on the issue of Israel.
So we see time after time and interview after interview
the former president trying to create some divisions among Jewish
(19:54):
voters in particular. But we also see the response coming
from the Vice President than herself when asked about this,
and it seems to me she is firmly, strongly, you know,
in the position of expressing strong support for the state
of Israel and what they've been going through since October
of last year.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
How different things look twenty four hours later. Now, would
this assassination on Iranian soil and the Ayatola pledging revenge,
this could escalate to a much different level.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Well, it could, and I think you know, if you're Israel,
you calculate that into what you decide you want to do.
This is certainly sending a message to Iran we can
attack inside your sovereign territory anytime with impunity. That's end
a strong message. And of course we know that Iran
(20:48):
several months ago launched those drone stripes that were not
effective against Israel. They weren't effective because the US helped
in terms of shooting down many of those drones. Very
little them got actually into Israeli airspace.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
John, it's a big difference if Israel is fighting directly
with Iran and not through proxies.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Right, Yeah, that's right. It is a big difference. And
I think that you know, Iran has to calculate the
extent to which it wants to escalate tensions in the
Middle East, you know, in terms of what that would mean,
and what it would mean actually in terms of the
ongoing war that Israel is having with Amas.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's what you know.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
They're fighting on the primary front in Gaza. Israel now
also dealing with Hisbala in its north. We saw the
attack that led to the retaliatory strike happening earlier this
week in the Goal on heights controlled by Israel. So
Israel's dealing with on many fronts with a lot of
proxies as you call them, of Iran. Iran backs Hamas,
(21:51):
it backs Hisbala and of course this attack happening just
within the past twenty four hours inside Iran and its
capital city of Tehran and dare I bring.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Up out loud that if Hamas and Hesbalah are a
proxy of Iran, Iran is a proxy in China, and
the potential for this escalate beyond even anything we can imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Right, Yeah, I think that's right, And it does complicate
efforts as it relates to peace talks, cease fire talks that.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Had been ongoing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
In fact, the CIA director just in the past week
back in Europe and Rome trying to reach some sort
of peace deal. This complicates those efforts in the sense
that the person who was assassinated was a political leader
for Hamas involved in those peace talks. Actually, but as
you know, of Michael, those peace talks really think about
(22:42):
it this way, they haven't gone anywhere since last October. Yes,
initially in the first three weeks there was a release
of some hostages, but those hostages that remain there, including
American hostages. They remain there despite all of the ongoing talks,
despite all of the shuttle diplomacy that has been ongoing
by the US over the court the last nine months.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, and then the question of just how many, if
any hostages are still alive? Then is that a part
of the delay? Anthony Blincoln, Secretary of State, Secretary of
Defense Austin, and remind everybody, Joe Biden, President I said
they got a real diplomatic hurdle in order to keep
this from escalating. That's for sure. Well they do.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
And we heard from the Defense Secretary yesterday before we
knew about, before that assassination took place in Iran, saying
that the US would come to Israel's defense if Israel
has attacked from by Hsbala. We don't know what that entail.
Certainly would not entail boots on the ground, certainly would
not involve let's say, you know, US fighter jets involved
(23:45):
in any particular fight against Isbala. But we've seen how
the US the Biden administration has provided significant military support
to Israel since October the seventh and their fight against Tamas,
and I would imagine that will certainly continue.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Supreme Court bar attorney and White House correspondent John Decker
as always great reporting. We'll talk again tomorrow. Thank you.
Can't have your morning show without your voice. And so
we got this email from Joshua who writes, Michael D.
This truly is my morning show. I don't miss it. Well,
thank you for that. I have an important question with
all of the unrest in the Middle East. What happens
(24:23):
if we declare some type of participation Joe can't command
and Kamala is completely inept. What happens with the election, etc. Okay,
that's a big blank word in participation. If when you
say participation you mean jets, bombs, boots on the ground.
(24:44):
We just addressed that that doesn't seem very likely unless
things escalate dramatically with Iron's involvement in terms of support
of Israel. Look, you know, I think we live in silos. Okay,
So there are a lot of people that think Joe
is senile and capable of being commander in chief, and
(25:07):
they've seen enough on television to have that genuine concern.
So the reality is, Yeah, the same people that told
you Joe was fine, then all United be it the media,
be it members of Congress, be it Kamala herself in
a sense, and that Joe needs to go. But they
didn't have him leave office, They just had him leave
(25:29):
the race. Well, if you're cognitively impaired and incapable of
running for president, are you not incapable of being president?
So I get where your concern is coming from. As
far as Kamala Harris, she has no foreign policy experience
prior to being vice president, that's obvious, other than being
(25:49):
a United States Senator for a short period of time
and then a prosecutor in the state of California. So
that may concern you. I might add that H. W.
Bush was a governor and a member of the Texas
Air National Guard and won a presidency based on a
court decision after hanging chads in a debate over lock
(26:10):
boxes and social security. So you either have confidence in
your government advisors or you don't. You also have right concerns.
This administration has kind of struggled at times in standing
behind Israel. I think they've learned that lesson they're going
to have to make a choice and it's going to
be forced upon them. They can continue to capitulate to
(26:31):
the far left, anti Israel quite frankly anti American voices
within their party or do what is nationally required, and
I suspect that they will that much. I agree with
John Decker. If Kamala Harris is wise enough to flip this,
literally flip the script and suddenly become pro Israel and
(26:54):
choose Shapiro as a running mate, she gets a domestic
Liberal just like her, and she puts a a Jewish
person on the ticket with her. That could send some
clear messages, but ultimately a lot can happen, A lot
can happen between now and the convention. And if she
does that, and all indications are Tuesdays, she's going to
(27:15):
be in Philadelphia Tuesdays when they're indicating she's going to
announce her veep. She's targeting all the swing states, the biggest,
the only one that you know you lose Philadelphia. There
is no path for the Democrats. So all indications are
I think the signaling it's going to be Shapiro. Most
people think it's going to be Kelly in Arizona, but
it looks like it might be Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Well, that,
(27:37):
along with this escalation in the Middle East, could really
gas things up for the Chicago convention where it was
in sixty eight and it lost control over anti war
Vietnam protesters. You may have anti Israel protesters really invade Chicago.
So this is all interesting, But look, the only thing
(27:58):
that she'd send you to your knee ease praying is
the security of Israel and the security of the world.
Iran is a loose cannon with a nuclear weapon and
they're voluing to get revenge for an assassination on their soil.
Will this become no longer an Iranian proxy war but
(28:18):
an Israeli Iranian war? And don't forget Iran is a
proxy war with Russia and China, and that enters World War.
At the conversation, that's what your eye needs to be on,
and that's what you need to be praying about.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Hi. I'm Keith Andrews and Mobile Alabama, and my morning
show is your Morning show with Michael del Jarnal.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
At your morning show on Michael del Jorna. Well, officials
from Secret Service and FBI faced a grilling in Capitol
Hill yesterday over the assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump.
You got a new active Secret Service director, but you
got the same We gotta wait and see and investigate,
and lack of firing and action. Federal Reserve not expect
(29:00):
to lower interest rates today. They'll remain at a twenty
three year high. Although you can have hopes of rate
cuts maybe later in September October, but the inflation number
just not near enough to two percent to get it
done now. Vice President Kamala Harris is daring Donald Trump
to debate. So far, Donald Trump has said he will
debate her, just not on ABC, and she's taking him
(29:21):
on head on over the border, claiming he's the failure,
not her. He don't walk the talk. And our far
and away biggest story. The Hamas leader Ismayo Hanea was
killed in tron there for the new president's inauguration, assassinated.
Israel has not taken credit for the assassination, though it
(29:42):
is assumed it was Israel. They had vowed to take
out Hamas leaders for the October seventh invasion that killed
over twelve hundred Israelis, but have yet to take credit
for it. The Ayatola is vowing to get revenge. Roory
O'Neil always gets the final story and this is a
big one. This is the fight between Israel. Hamas and
(30:03):
Hesbelah a proxy of Iran and something that's etioned closer
to a direct confrontation with Iran. How do you get
kudl or has to prevail? Now?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, what's next is the big question? And as you
talked about that Hamas political leader assassinated in Iran. So
there's embarrassment by Iranian military officials that this was allowed
to happen on their watch while this man was essentially
visiting them for this presidential inauguration. And then there's the
other story connected to this, Hesbola's top military commander was
(30:35):
killed by another Israeli strike, this one happening in Beirut.
So here you have, we believe is Reel's military striking
both into Beirut and to Tehran twice within what a
twelve hour period, taking up two top people from Hesbalah
and Hamas.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I know your news and I know on talk, but
just hear me out. I'm not implying this, I'm just suggesting.
Imagine how different things would have been if Donald Donald
Trump doesn't turn at that exact moment to look at
a graphic. We still don't know if there and we
know Iran has a Fatwa out against Trump to take
him out. We don't know if there's ties to the
(31:13):
shooter or Iran yet, but imagine if we were waking
up this morning and our former president and he who
was leading at the time was assassinated. Now the Hamas
leader is assassinated, the commander of Hesbellah taken out in
a missile strike, and Iran vowing to get revenge against Israel.
I mean, you get a much different view of the picture,
(31:35):
don't you. It really is about what's going The epicenter
of the world is the Middle East, and this is
as dangerous as it's been in a long time.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, and again we're trying to see now how countries
like Iran respond to this.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Remember Iran did launch that drone.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Attack a couple months ago after Israel had gotten aggressive
and firing into Iran. So we do know that that
a back and forth does happen. We are expecting more
of a bad back and forth after the weekend strike
that killed twelve people in the Golan Heights, twelve children,
and we've seen more missile activity there. So yeah, the
(32:12):
question is does this suddenly branch out into that broader
conflict or is that is this what it's going to look.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Like, and what potentially it concerns me the most is
if Hezbelah and Hamas are a proxy of Iran and
Israel gets it. And that's part of why it was
done on Iranian soil and not stopped by being on
Iranian soil. Now you've got a direct conflict between Israel
and Iran. And don't forget Iran is a proxy of
Russia and China. Now you're talking world war all right,
(32:40):
let's do the news side of this. What does this
do to the hostage release plans and cease fire talks,
because now the talks turned to keeping this from escalating
into it all out war.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Well, the talk was that as the political head of Hamas,
Hania was involved in a lot of those negotiations to
try to get the host is released. Now, look, some
of the people who defend Hamas are saying, oh, this
guy was a real peacemaker and vital to all this.
We'll see, I mean in depth. His reputation certainly is
(33:11):
getting the spit shine. But you know, you know, obviously
there's a lot of anxiety and just so many unknowns.
They got the our Defense secretary was in the Philippines
and questioned about it, so they barely knew anything about it.
Israel did not consult the US before making this strike,
and again, the fact that the strike was in Tehran
(33:32):
is remarkable that Israel was able to pull it off.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, yeah, it shows their capabilities. You brought up the
best point and the embarrassment. This guy's in a guest house,
he's a guest of Iran. He's being protected by Iran
and the presumably the Revolutionary Guard involved, and they still
get the kill. But the fact that the assassination of
Ismail Hanaya is in Iran and the missile strike that
(33:57):
takes out the Hesba La commander is in Lebanon. That's
what makes these different, right, well exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And the problematic Yeah, who is feeling his oats, you know,
feeling that he can make these kinds of aggressive moves
as well. That's pretty interesting too.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Any chance this was discussed when he was recently here
in America, either with Kamala Harris, Vice President or sitting
President Joe Biden, prior to it being carried out.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
From what we've heard from Blincoln and Austin, it doesn't
seem like the US was keyed in.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
At least not on what happened in Iran, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
What's been happening with hes Blah into Lebanon that's sort
of been bubbling up and brewing the past few weeks.
So it's not a terrible surprise what happened there.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Time to stop playing politics in America, unite in prayer
for Israel and peace in the Middle East, in the
security of us all. Thanks Roy, great reporting. As always,
fifty eight minutes after the hour, there's another rap. Keep
an eye on this. This is troubling stuff in the
Middle East, and we certainly will on that and the
Olympics and have more in the morning. We're all in
(35:03):
this together. This is your Morning Show with Michael Vendel,
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