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Tim Alcorn and Jim Chones chat with Cavs legend Brad Daugherty and Miami Heat radio voice, Jason Jackson. 

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Calves HQ presented by bet Way.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank you for joining us on the Medical Mutual Cavaliers audiovers.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Here are your hosts, Tim Alcorn and Jim Jones.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Problem the Cavaliers production studios at Rocket Mortgage field House
in downtown Cleveland. Hi again, everybody, and welcome to Calves
HQ presented by bet Wait. Great to have you with
us on this Tuesday Night Calves with the night off
back in action tomorrow night when they'll take on the
Miami Heat at Rocket Mortgage field House, Calves. We'll go

(00:42):
into the ballgame off a nice win last night when
they downed Indiana in Indiana. Want to eight to one
oh three? Jim, We're going to talk about that win
last night. We've got a couple very special guests lined
up for this week's show. We're gonna hear from Cavalier
legend Brad Doherty, and then later on in the show,
we'll talk to Miami Heat radio play by play announcer

(01:04):
Jason Jackson. And we're also going to look back in
that game against Indiana and the unbelievable performance by newcomer
Marcus Morris.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Sounds good. Marcus Morris was just outstanding tim It's like
he'd been around our system and the way we play forever.
But the uniqueness of Marcus Morris is that he's played
for how many teams? Eight or nine?

Speaker 6 (01:29):
Eight?

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Eight teams, So he's getting a check and there's not
too much variation today as to what teams do offensively
and defensively, so he was able to come right in
there and get the job that. I thought he was
one of the key factors in that victory. And of
course Brad Doherty does a great job for Bally's great, insightful,
the best Cavaliers center of all time. I just think

(01:53):
that anytime he talks, our fans should listen. So there
you go.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
So we're gonna have a busy show. We want you
to stay with us. When we come back. We'll look
back at that game last night, that great win over
the Pacers in Indiana, So stay with us. Cavs HQ
presented by Betway. We'll continue after this on the Medical
Mutual Cavaliers audiovers Eryl looking looking fires at the Garland

(02:20):
Garland right side, Morris three.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Ball God, Hey, bet the buzzer.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
Welcome to Cavalier Land, Marcus Morris. Wow, Marcus Morris with
a fourteen point game and a three ball to clothes
out the third quarter. How about that?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
He looks great and whine and gold. Indeed, Marcus Morris
put on a show last night in Indiana Cavs with
that big win over the Pacers one o eight to
one oh three. Outstanding performances from Kislavert almost had a
triple double, had a double double, twenty three points, eleven assists,

(03:06):
eight rebounds, Jared Allen twenty three points, nine rebounds. But
Jim Jones, I think it's fair to say Marcus Morris
stole the show in less than twenty minutes, just under
twenty minutes, fourteen points, four or five on three balls. Now,
he went this shoot around yesterday morning, kind of walk

(03:26):
through some things, talking to the coaches. They were pointing
some things out, got some shots up during pregame drills
last night, and then comes out and has a performance
like that.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, Well, he's been around and he's got experience. Our
system is indifficult, but it is taxing because we asked
you to make multiple efforts on the defensive side of
the ball. But to be with a team as talented
as we are, and all he has to do is
just shoot that turnaround jump shot, the mid range and

(03:57):
the catch and shoot three. I think it was he
here for. And plus when he's out there with Tristan
and o'coro, ad Lavert and Niang, you know he could
really be physical and beat some guys up. I thought
he was. His physical presence was also just as important
as his scoring.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Jimmy was signed to a ten day contract. You certainly
think he's going to be here longer than that. What
will he bring to this team in these final fourteen games.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Grit, toughness, tremendous amount of experience and know how a
guy that you should watch while he's on the floor
just to see his demeanor. Just little thanks Tim Like
under the basket pacer player catches the ball, he hits
him quickly across the hands and makes the signal that
he was on the ground. He wasn't in the form

(04:45):
of shooting because he understands the game and you know,
all those little things, and he can weigh six files,
you know, because he's got Tristan, he's got o'coro, so
he's got some other people out there. So physicality will
not be a problem for him, but it will give
us a tremendous edge. I just thought we beat them

(05:05):
up pretty good after that second quarter.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Only no doubt about it. So again, Marcus Morris was
just terrific in his Cavalier debut last night in Indiana
with that fourteen point effort, and after the game he
talked about his performance and coming to the Cavs.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
First time seeing him doing shoot around, So you know,
it was it's a league, man, I pig did a
great job communicating with me. The players did a great
job communicating with me, So it was easy.

Speaker 9 (05:30):
Man.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
I just you know, played the game the right way
and took me a defense gaming.

Speaker 10 (05:34):
Did the relationship that you have with JB also kind
of helping still at confidence just to go out there
and play a game.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
Definitely, definitely. You know, it's funny because we wasn't even
talking about me joining, Like we were just having natural
conversation and just talking basketball and him like like we
both come to agreement of me coming over here and
trying to help the team, and man, we both like
he joked earlier about me being on the couch, like
I definitely wasn't a coach. I was working out though

(05:59):
I was working out, I I was about my kids
and getting some son just enjoying my time off. But uh,
you know, I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to
help and just wanna you know, keep keep pushing guys,
keep being the leader, and uh just show my work.

Speaker 10 (06:12):
What were your impressions of this team being able to
come back from you know, being down fifteen in that
first half.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
It's resilience, resilience, but uh, you know he'd been a
good team off season. I've been watching m far s
because of our relationship, and they had some big games
where it came back and you know, uh just another one.
You know, Uh it's getting down to the nitty gritty,
so uh just show show the resilience of the team
being down a lot of guys and you know, just
trying to hold on and keep going til we get
the guys back.

Speaker 10 (06:38):
Did also have interest in Thompson out there kind of
aiding that.

Speaker 8 (06:41):
Sh definitely definitely uh me and you know, we came
into the league together, so being able to uh you know,
share the court with another veteran. It's talkative, uh, emotional
like myself, and play hard. Uh it was definitely easy.

Speaker 10 (06:52):
Played about twenty minutes tonight, Is that more than what
you expected.

Speaker 8 (06:56):
Uh no, I mean I I prepare my body for it. So,
you know, me and j Beach going back and forth.
He aksed me early like what you know what I mean,
how did how do you feel? And I was like,
you know, I'm good. You know I've been I've been
playing pick up, I've been working out every day. So
you know, I'm a veteran. You know, I'm professional. So
I made sure that I would be good by the
time I got her.

Speaker 10 (07:12):
What was your mentality coming into tonight's game?

Speaker 8 (07:14):
Arts just help man, just played the game of basketball
the right way. Take what they gave me. I hold
the ball move uh communicates be may'ld later be a
veteran like myself, and uh, you know, so I try
to do too much. Man, I've been you know, watching
the last probably seven games, so I kind of like
figured out how the team played the ball movement, get
into the point guards, you know hands, and you know
he had god care had a great, great game. So

(07:37):
he was just play off him and watch him do
his thing, and uh keep motivating him.

Speaker 10 (07:40):
You've mentioned a few times just your relationship with JB. Yeah,
what is it about his coaching style? Is it his system,
is it? Uh the way that that he communicates with guys,
what caters to your game?

Speaker 8 (07:51):
So, uh, it's funny. When I got into a league,
uh about twenty years ago, he was my coach, and
yeah he was a assistant coach, but he acted as
if he was to the head coach. Let's know, not
to Kevin McHale, but you know, he always viewed him
as a head coach. He's always like talked to his players,
always gave Compson and his players and made it easy.
So I always had a short conversation, you know what

(08:12):
I mean. He said, you know, he's played a game
the right way I communicated, should just come easy.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Here's what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
How insane them difficult it is to come in cold
like that, shooting in a rhythm. How how tough was
it or was it?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Was there some freedom to it?

Speaker 8 (08:28):
I mean, if you know, Mayor wasn't really that tough,
you know what I'm saying. But the thing was they
did a great job of getting into the paint, bringing
down a defense. I just had to make open shots.
So when you were at home and you're not doing nothing,
the one thing you is doing to shooting spot shots,
So you know, I, you know I did kudos to them.
I getting in the lane making a defense collapse and
I just did my job make open shots.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Marcus Morris following the game last night against the Indiana Pacers,
Morris coming off the bench having signed his contract the
day before in just under twenty minutes, nineteen minute's in
fifty two seconds to be precise, four of five from
beyond the arc, fourteen points. Overall, quite a debut, and
again it was referenced there a couple of times when

(09:10):
Marcus Morris came into the league drafted by the Houston Rockets. JB.
Bickerstaff was an assistant coach with Houston under then head
coach Kevin McHale, so he worked with Marcus quite a bit.
They have a great relationship and the NBA is pretty intertwined,
so those guys have maintained that, and boy, it came

(09:32):
up big for the Cavs last night as Marcus Morris
and his debut was outstanding. We'll take a quick time
out on Cavs HQ presented by Betway. When we come back,
Cavalier legend Brad Doherty will join us, so stay with us.
That comes your way After this on the Medical Mutual
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Speaker 1 (09:57):
Ran into the circle, hook past Mack right back to
him to the air, beats it off the Doughty carrying
it on Price come out on the right side, dribbling
on the right hand, moves into the three point line
and stops out to Dougherty, turns hooks with the right
hand point. Brice swims behind Doherty to the top of
the He drops into brand Downloy where on the right
hand Doerty facelive five of the shot clock works his

(10:19):
way inside hooks for the right handcut.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Uh the incomparable iconic. Any other adjective would be appropriate
as well. Joe Tate making the call of our guest,
Brad Doherty, Cavalier Legend Wall of Honor member and of
course now does a great job with Bally Sports. Always
great to have Brad on Kev's HQ presented by Betway.
Mister Doherty, I'm sure that brings back a lot of

(10:46):
great memories of the great Joe Tate making those calls.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Boy, you're you're exactly right, makes my bat and not
hurts the bad makes you feel good for just a
second or two. But yeah, all brings back great memory.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Well, let's talk a little Cavaliers basketball. Of course, Miami
will be in town tomorrow night. You'll be in town
as well, calling the game on the TV side. Jim
and I were talking before you joined us. Boy, that
was a gritty, gutsy win on Monday night in Indiana.
What'd that show you about this Cavalier basketball team? Brad?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, you know, you guys are right. It just makes
you think back over the entirety of the season and
how we've had to persevere and guys have had to
step up that next man up mentality. We had tremendous
success with that, the whole ideology of just doing your job,
no matter who you are, when you have the opportunity.
Going into the All Star Break, I thought it was
just remarkable what we accomplished. And then you know Donovan,

(11:43):
you know, he has just set back and carries Lebert
steps up, and it's just been interesting. I think it's
been one of the best coaching jobs of any coach
that I've seen in a long long time in this league.
You know what JB. Bickerstaff has had to do on
a weekly basis is just it's incomparable Now every team

(12:04):
and I talked to a lot of different coaches throughout
the league and have a lot of friends their coaches,
and they're all complaining about the injuries. It seems like
everyone's hurt. It's really weird. But it's usually not two guys.
It's maybe one guy or a role player that's significant.
But I mean, we're looking at time we've had two
and three and four All Star caliber players hurt significantly

(12:27):
and here we are. We're still surviving, playing very very
hard basketball, gritty basketball. But you know, as we get
down to these last few games over the last few weeks, man,
it's going to be even more and more difficult to
scratch these things out. So it's got to play hard
every night.

Speaker 9 (12:45):
Brad.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
I want to talk to you about a group of
guys that I called the Bulldogs because I saw something
in Indiana that turned the light on for me. Marcus Morris,
Tristan Thompson, o'coro, Kneeing, and LeVert. Those guys were so physical, Brad,
and so aggressive they turned the tide in that second quarter.

(13:07):
Talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, no doubt about that. You know, the one thing
that has been missing from our basketball team obviously going
into the playoffs last year getting bounced, and then you
come into this season and the whole thing behind the
cash were you know, great athletes can play in space,
but if you take up that space and challenge and

(13:29):
bump these guys around. You know, you got Evan and Jarrett.
They're slightly built, but they're tremendous athletes. They're live wiars.
But if you can get into them, maybe you can
knock them off the spot and create problems. And so
we've seen some teams do that this year and try
to do that. New York seems to have some success
with that against us, and just have our number in

(13:50):
that regard. But watching Morris and Tristan, well, he's back,
George has a little bit of a chip on his shoulder.
You love that. I think you're right. We have to
have that element, and especially when we've got guys that
can basically rotate in six, seven, and eight and bring

(14:13):
that level of intensity and physicality to the game that
we're probably not going to have in our starting lineup
because our starting lineup, like I say, is more fluid.
We're more of an execution based basketball team, which most
teams are today. The majority of teams are execution based
basketball teams, and we're not one of those teams where
we're just going to beat you up and sling you around,

(14:35):
because the league doesn't play that way. But when you
get to the playoffs, it becomes half court basketball and
the officiating becomes much freer. So the ability to dominate
that post area, to dominate that interior becomes even more important.
And it has to go across all levels, not just
big guys. Your guards have to be able to stick

(14:57):
their nose in there and grab a deef. It's a
rebound because it's the ball. You know, we shoot a
lot of long shots now, so there's long rebounds. You
gotta have those guards. They'll come back and get rebounds.
That's what becomes the toughness element that we need to
continue to develop. And when teams challenges, because they're gonna
try out challenges. That's the narrative on our basketball team.
We don't have the physicality, but I think, Jim, the

(15:19):
thing in today's game is most teams in the day's
game don't have that physicality. So they're all yeah, And
so those teams that come in and their coaches telling
them we got to be physical with this team that's them.
That team that's doing it is not a physical team,
so they're playing out of their elements. So if we
can have a group of guys that come in and
can match that, it'll go away. It'll go away. So

(15:42):
I'm really really encouraged. You know, we got a couple
of Vetsed Morris and Tristan. These guys have been around
a long time. They know what needs to be done.
You got a guy the chip on the shoulder like George,
you know, you put a guy in there who's hungry,
like Craig Porter or Sam Merrill. These guys are hungry.
And Karris Lebert Man, he gives it no matter what

(16:04):
if Terrris have a terrible shooting game, too good another
and to get you a steal. He plays so hard
all the time that I love it. And I think
that's what we've been looking for, and that's what we've
been missing.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
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(16:35):
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Speaker 4 (17:25):
Verse, Merril left corner to Morris. He'll shoot, He'll hick
another three ball.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
I love it. Sam had a good shot, Morris had
a better one.

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Speaker 4 (17:48):
Here's Tim Alcorn and Jim Jones. Great to have you back.
Great to have you joining us on this Tuesday night
for Calves HQ presented by Betway. Calves off tonight, back
home tomorrow and it's a very quick trip to Rocket
Mortgane Field House. One game at home against the Heat
on Wednesday, and then right back out on the road
Friday in Minnesota, and then Sunday a rematch with the

(18:11):
Heat in Miami, and calling the game tomorrow night. On
the television side will be Brad Doherty for Bally's. He's
our guest this week on Kev's HQ and Jim, I'll
let you get things started with Brad here in our
second segment.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, Brad, let's start at the top of the Eastern
Conference Boston. They're running away with their A plus forty
on the wind Laws side. I still don't believe him.
To me, they're soft. I tell Cornbread that I talked
to him last week and I'm not a believer. What
are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well, that's interesting to say that. And I watch them
play a lot, you know, I just think it's the man.
Jason Tatum makes a lot of shots, Jaylen Brown makes
a lot of shots. I just think they've shot the
ball consistently on a nightly basis better than everyone else.
I agree with I don't think they're a physical basketball

(19:04):
team at all. I think in the day's game in
the regular season, Jim, because there's so much freedom on
the basketball court, a team like that can beat you.
Because Porzingis can be a little bit of a matchup
situation where most Knights, you know, the guy's got six
inches on a guy or six eight inches in reach
on a guy, and he's shooting jump shots, but he

(19:25):
can he can also tip a ball in. He'll get
sate rebounds, and they've got enough out shooting consistently with
Brown and Tatum, they make those mid range shots. They
beat people. But I think you're right from the standpoint
of I think come playoff time, they're gonna problem. You
put a healthy Joel Embiid in the middle of that process,

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and they got a problem. They got a huge problem.
And I think we could be because Jared Allen improved
his offensive game. He has absolutely improved his offensive game
beyond approach, and as long as he continues to be
active shooting those hook shots, and the other thing for
Jared is continue to accept that mid range thirteen fourteen

(20:09):
twelve foot shot and not go away from that. He
goes away from it sometimes because he's such an unselfish
player and he's looking to help his teammate. But when
he does that, I think we can beat them because
I think he becomes more of a matchup problem for
their bigs for Porzingis, and I also think it creates
a lot of freedom. If Donovan's healthy, it pulls Porzingis

(20:30):
kind of out of that basket area. Now they got
to make decisions. So I think they're very beatable. To me,
that would be the most difficult to deal with would
be Philadelphia if they're one hundred percent healthy, which they're not.
I think they're abs for anyone because Joel Embiid is
a He is dominant on both ends of the floor,

(20:53):
and I don't see that in Boston. I don't see them.
They don't have a player that's dominant on both ends
of the floor, and I think that's catch up to
them at some point.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Great point, again, great insights from Brad Doherty, our guest
on this week's edition of Cavs h Q, presented by
Betway and Brad. You're referenced in the first segment that
we had you the health really of every team in
the NBA, and you were talking there about if Philadelphia
is healthy. And I want to circle back to the
Calves with that, because you keep hearing when we get

(21:22):
our roster together, when everybody's healthy. But let me ask you,
does it take or how many games would it take
for that roster to get comfortable with one another? The
Calves already announced today Donovan is gonna had that nose realigned,
so he's gonna miss at least another week. How many
games do you have to play together to say, Okay,

(21:43):
now we got to feel for one another.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, I think we're beyond that, you know, And that's
concerning at this point. I mean, it's like we're saying
through an hour glass and it's down to that last little,
you know, quarter of sand in that hour it's gone.
It's gonna be gone. And so I just think, you know,
from preparation standpoint, you have to just have a game

(22:06):
plan that is flexible, and that is what's not what
you want going into the playoffs. You want to be
going into the full speed and it's based upon going
through the regular season working on execution where you're exit
at the highest highest point in the season and you're
just blowing into those playoffs and you're just gonna wear
people out. That's not what we're going to have. So

(22:29):
chess game once we get into the playoffs, and it's
gonna be whomever is ready. Because I've just never seen
anything like it throughout the entire league. With the injuries,
and I'm talking about over the last three or four years.
I question, you know, letting these guys rest and load
management and all those types of things. But I just

(22:49):
think it's something different in the way athletes train today
that lends itself to these just little little bitty injuries
that are knee soreness that ends up being a torn
meniscus at some point, you know, which is it's not
career threatening, but it's it's seasoned, you know, part of
your season threatening, or just these little things I'm watching

(23:12):
and so I don't know, I find it fascinating. And
I talked to our doctors all the time, you know,
is it ligament strength? Is it what is it that's
causing these looks? And nobody can answer that. So but
to go back to answer your questions, I like what
I saw from JB. Bickerstaff when we went down with
Darius Garland and Evan Mobley went down. I like the

(23:33):
fact that he was willing to go away from being
a team that was pretty dominant defensively, inside and out
to a team that was spread before. And he put
four guys on the basketball court sometimes that could all
shots and made it just unguardable. And I think that
his willingness to do that's what's going to help us
have success in the playoff, because I don't think we're
going into fealthy. I don't think anyone is.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
You know, Brad, it's funny you should say that because
Donovan he's only played twenty three with Garland, Mobley and
Jared and that's definitely not enough to develop any chemistry.
So we got to bypass that. I totally agree with you.
But also I remember Bill Russell saying he told Dwight Howard,
what do you do in the summer? He said, well,
I lift, I run, I do all this. He said,

(24:16):
do you ever think about resting? You know, because think
about it, you lose. You lose almost twenty five percent
or more of your muscle mass through the course of
the season just by getting up and down the floor,
and fatigue and burning fat and whatever. But this is
a new age athlete. They want to play all year

(24:37):
round and think it doesn't affect their game. It does
affect their game. It may improve their game, but it's
a really weird tear on the body and you and
I know, you don't really feel it until you retire.
Right when you retire, Yeah, oh man. And a month
or a year after tire, I said, Wow, I didn't

(24:57):
know I could feel this good.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, you're right. I spent a lot of time with
I've got a couple of prints or exercise physiologists. I'm
always talking to him about the human body and my
size and those types of things and the one thing
and you're dead on it. I hear a lot. I
was actually just talking to my friends a couple of
days ago, doctor James Sopo and we were talking and
he said, talking about being a professional athlete, today's modern

(25:22):
professional athlete, it's really very unhealthy because just what you're
talking about there is not enough rest. What he was
talking about, he says, you know, if you think about it,
an NBA basketball player who's playing today, Donovan Mitchell or
Darius darl and these guys they also played AAU basketball
and so AU basketball. Sometimes those teams are summer play

(25:43):
one hundred games, you know, and you think about it, Jim,
you and I coming up, we went to basketball camp
in the summer and that was about it. You know,
that was it. And so you watch and the one
thing I've noticed being around you know, watching it, I
think there's too much of everything with these guys. And
I think you're right. I think it's it's inflammation. I

(26:05):
think it's overload. And I think there's not enough recovery
in the basketball life span of an NBA basketball player
now because of AAU basketball, college basketball, and now pro basketball.
I watch these guys warm up. Jim, you do too.
I mean, these guys shoot a thousand shots before games.

(26:26):
It's remarkable. Every time I see it, I'm just I'm
blown away. I just don't understand that, but I get it.
You get the perfection out of it, but you also
get the deterioration out of it. And so where's that
healthy balance? And I think looking at all these guys
getting hurt all the time, load management or no load management,

(26:46):
he can it hurt more with load management? I think
we all need longer periods of rest. But that's not
going to happen, just because the way the scheduling is
so summertime. Yeah, these guys need to probably completely decompress
and just my theory and take a month off and
just have active risk, whether it's just light walks or
playing pickleball or doing something like that, as opposed to

(27:06):
working on their bodies, because I think their bodies are
broken down so badly, Like you're talking about losing that
twenty five percent of muscle mass, then you go right
back at it two weeks later. It's not enough.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Rest great great stuff, Brad. On that note, we're gonna
let you go again. Always just terrific comments and insights
when you join us on cavs HQ. We really appreciate it.
Love your work on Balle's as well, and we'll see
you tomorrow night at Rocking Mortgage field House.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Thank you, Bradley, Hey, thanks for having me, guys, Thank
you both. I appreciate you guys. You guys are the best.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Thank you, so thanks to you soon.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Thanks Brad. Brad Doherty joining us on this week's edition
of CAVS HQ, presented by bet Way. We'll take a
quick time out Miami's in Town tomorrow night, we're gonna
talk some Heat basketball. They're play by play announcer Jason Jackson,
So stay with us. We're coming back after this. On
the Medical Mutual Cavaliers Audio Verse.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Out the band for three for the wind mis ball game.
Bad for the bio for the first time in his.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
Career, three consecutive made threes and it's a game winner.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
To work for you, baby hots. Bam oh, that's awesome.
Jason Jackson. Yeah, the radio voice of the Miami Heats,
And of course that was bam Adebayo's three ball on
Sunday and that took down the Detroit Pistons and Jason
on the call as the radio voice of the Heat.

(28:36):
He now joined us as our guest on Cavs HQ
presented by Bedway. That was an awesome call, man, great stuff.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
Well, calm down since.

Speaker 11 (28:47):
But you know, Jim, you knows how many times does
you're five get to win the game with the three.
You know, he's rosier. He's screaming at Terry to give
him the ball. And he's been on this rip now
he's made five threes in a row and that was
the third one was truly the charm at Detroit.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
There but Jason, I'm the only guy I know that
they'll give me the ball with three seconds left. I've
blown so many last second shots.

Speaker 9 (29:15):
You shoot it?

Speaker 6 (29:15):
What Heat, Parsons, they call it the grenade, right. That's always.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Well Jason, of course, the radio voice of the Heat.
They're in town tomorrow night, the first of two matchups
with the Calves here in the next five days, Calves
and Heat Wednesday night here at Rocking Mortgage field House
Sunday back in Miami. But before we talk about the matchups,
per se, Jason, just to look at your team overall,
and certainly they heat like everybody else, battling injuries and

(29:51):
just trying to survive to the finish line. So give
us a state of the Heat right now as you
get ready for the Calves on Wednesday.

Speaker 11 (29:59):
Okay, let's be this gentleman.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
As you all sit in a more lofty seat in
the Eastern Conference, as it attains some positioning, you look
over your shoulder and you see that party of five
beneath you. I understand how.

Speaker 11 (30:12):
This is going right now, and the heater in this group,
and it's dicey because every day, several times a day,
you're compelled to look at the standings and see who won,
who didn't. How far did you slide, how far did
you rise? It's gonna be this way for the remaining
you know, fifteen games here for all of those teams.

(30:33):
You know, for Miami, it's a little bit of a
carbon cobby of last year. It's just body after body.
You get a couple back, you lose a couple, you
lose a key components. When you're talking about Kevin Love
and Tyler Hero, Jimmy Butler, Nikola Jovich, Jay rich Josh Richardson,
who was really really kind of flowing in the rotation

(30:56):
before he had a shoulder that shut him down for
the season. So we has rolled off five top rotation
guys and several starters that have not been a part
of the everyday grind of it. And Duncan Robinson may
be joining this group as he's revealed he's.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
Had a back issue for a minute.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
It's not the easy part, but as you guys know,
covering the heat as long as you have there is
a very hard line next up mentality and no excuses
when you and I don't even feel like its excuses
coming from the fan base or from the compensated observers.
It's just the reality of how many teams can sustain
a playoff position of envy when you don't have your

(31:36):
frontline players. And so it's going to be a battle
here down the stretch if the Heat want to not
take the hard road again, which as we know last year,
to get to the Eastern Conference Championship they had to
go through two playing games first.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
All right, well, what I'm looking at is you've got
a little help from your friends. This kid, is it
Jamie Jacques?

Speaker 9 (32:00):
I love it.

Speaker 11 (32:07):
What a great find. I'll tell you a cool story. So,
as we were grinding through the envy of being able
to play as long as you play, but then being
exited out without the championship, and kudos to Denver for
winning that title.

Speaker 9 (32:20):
But as that.

Speaker 11 (32:22):
All comes to a close, you go right to I
mean immediately draft cramming and and then you know you
got free agency, and then bow the mall if you
go to the summer league. And so it was wild
trying to figure out which these players is going to
fit best, you know, kind of those mid teen guys.
As it pertains to all these mock drafts that I

(32:44):
hadn't looked at at all, because the heater playing so
deep into the spring, and so how Cass's names kept
coming up and coming up, and so I'm looking at
the video, I'm like, oh lord, this man already looks
like a heat player. He's just wearing UCLA clouds. And
then all of a sudden he was there and available,
and all summer you just kept hearing his name as

(33:05):
retains to work. And then the play that he had
in the early summer league and he got hurt. By
the time the team got to Vegas. I don't think
a lot of people got to see what was coming,
but they eventually did, as he had a great opening
a few months before an injury hamstring shut him down
for a little bit. But man Man which has been
a solid debut and for the most part, unless he's

(33:28):
thrust into the starting line that he plays behind Jimmy Butler,
and he has definitely taken on kind of that mentality
of let me hit somebody first, but let me see
if they'll if they'll back down before I power this
ball up. And what you guys have probably seen you'll
see a little bit more of tomorrow and Sunday is
just wonderful footwork for such a I can't say young

(33:52):
player because he played four years at UCLA, but for
a first year player in the NBA, his footwork belies
his a and it's just an utter joy to watch.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Again, we're talking with Jason Jackson, radio voice of the
Miami Heat, Calves and Heat tomorrow night in Cleveland and
then Sunday down in Miami. And Jason, you talked about
our various travels throughout the NBA, and I know you
do as well as Jim and I. We talked to
other radio announcers and team officials, and it seems like
when we bump into people in the Eastern Conference, it's

(34:25):
a consensus, well, won't play anybody, but we really don't
want to face the heat. Now. Is that a byproduct
of last year? Is it about heat culture? But I'm
telling you everybody says he we don't want Miami in
that first round.

Speaker 11 (34:41):
Yeah, that's probably the last four years. I got to
give credit to this era, you know, which is signatured
by Jimmy Butler and the arrival of Tyler hero Bam
was already here and emerging into the role that he
currently holds with his team now as the team's captain.

Speaker 9 (34:59):
With you donad.

Speaker 11 (35:00):
I'm retiring, and I think it's really simple. So the
heat culture thing, I know it makes people's eyes roll,
but it's really simple. It's just deciding who you are
and what you're going to be and then never really
wavering from that. If you're not drafting necessarily for there's
a need, but it's will this particular player fit what's

(35:20):
required here. And it's a lot of defensive focus, it's
a lot of practicing, it's a lot of chewed around,
a lot of film sessions, and it sounds simple, but
that's not necessarily the life for all thirty teams in
this league. And so that's the first layer of it.
And when you have the consistency of ownership executive leadership.

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Now this is the twenty ninth season the pat Riley's
been in charge, the head coach has been here the
same amount of time and he's in his sixteenth season
in that first seat. So there's just a lot of consistency.
And when you have that, the organization that is standing
firm and holding the runner, not the things that kind
of come and go. I think the idea comes from

(36:04):
regardless of if you have this team down twenty seven
or seven at some point they're coming at you. Now.
The difficulty of crawling out a twenty seven point zero
is sustaining once you get that thing, even because you've
used so much energy to get out of it. But
it is going to be a long series. You're not
going to get a broom out. Mostly there's only been

(36:26):
one sweep in these four straight years of playoff dynamics
that he had to deal with, and that was coming
out of the bubble after going to the Eastern Conference
Finals and having six weeks off before that next season started.
So there were some elements that contributed to that, and
also that Milwaukee was awesome and focused on one thing,
winning the title. But it is going to be fun

(36:50):
whatever the route, and I look forward to it, and
I know the Cash fans it was afward to get
into it too. For a more.

Speaker 9 (36:57):
Enviable position, I imagine.

Speaker 11 (37:00):
And when everything's done on April.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Fourteen, Jason the heater coming off an NBA Finals appearance,
so again you certainly you're in an enviable position as well. Hey,
we look forward to seeing you tomorrow night up on
the Joe Tate Perche and then again Sunday down in Florida.
But keeping an eye on the Heat. There's no doubt
about that. In this crazy Eastern conference. We appreciate you

(37:23):
spending a few moments with us. Thank you, thank.

Speaker 11 (37:25):
You, Jay's pleasure, and we all appreciate how wonderful Max
Trus has been wrapped into the organization. It's been wonderful
to watch from Afar, guy that I watch developed through
the Heats organization come in and contribute and already be
a fan favorite in Cleveland, which is awesome to see.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah, he's been a very valuable piece. All Right, that's
Jason Jackson, the radio voice of the Miami Heat. Jason's
in town, caves in Heat tomorrow night in Cleveland, Sunday
in Miami. We'll take a time out and we'll wrap
it all up for this week's edition of CAVS HQ
presented by Betway. After this the Medical Mutual Cavalier's Audio Verse.

(38:04):
It's gonna do it for this week's edition of CALVS
HQ presented by Betway.

Speaker 8 (38:07):
Boy.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Thanks to Jason Jackson for stopping by Voice of the
Miami Heat. Earlier you heard from Brad Doherty as always,
outstanding insights from Brad Jim Jones. Thanks to you Curtin Marty.
Thanks to you on the other side of the window.
Jim and I will be back tomorrow night Calves in
Heat at Rocket Mortgage field House seven o'clock tip the
Huntington Tip Off Show at six point thirty on the

(38:29):
Medical Mutual Cavaliers Audio Verse. So until then, tim Elcorn
saying so long, everybody,