Returning from the Road with Raul

Rafa and Joe G are back at it following a long road trip -- welcoming veteran guard Raul Neto to the show, along with a visit from The Athletic's Cavs beat writer, Kelsey Russo.

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and Go Radio talking about land. Now you're your host
Rafa and Joe Gi Surpriss, surprissed, Surpriss. You're hey everybody,
and welcome to Wine in Gold Radio. I don't even
know what episode this is really Wine and Go Radio.
You see episode after a massive long road trip at

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one road home game and then another road game and
then now we're back to back before we go away
for another week. I didn't go to Memphis with Did
you go to Graceland? Did you have time to get
over the grace? You know what, that's one of the
few things that one of the few places I'd like
to go. You've never been to Graceland? Yeah, I do.
I used to work with the St. Jude Hopital Okay,

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we used to do at forty eight hour radio thing
with them. So we used to do the tour of
the of the hospital, which is one of the most
beautiful and the the most saddest things you ever do in
your life, if you go see that little piece of
heaven there in Memphis, Tennessee. And we always went to
Graceland nothing to do. Not much of an Elvis fan. Okay,
I'm a fan of his wife, you know, but what

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are you gonna do? But I didn't want to go
because it's a sad spot right now with the passion
of Lisa Ma. That's true. But now it might have
been the best time now, but there would be too
many people, too many of you people. I am Joe
g he is Rafael Ernandez, Brito. This is You're on
the wrong side of me today. We're just back from
the road trip. That was my first road trip in

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two years. It was good to get back. It was
good to get back to Memphis. I don't know, they're
kind of scheduling me, kind of weird. But why, I
don't know. I'm up behind that is that up to me.
If I would have been there, and I'd have gone
to great because I love it there. Maybe we'll give
you a phone or camera, they'll put you on board.
Don't get started there, man. So anyway, the Cavs went

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two and three on the road trip, came back, knocked
off the Pelicans on MLK Day, and then went back
out and us a tough one in Memphis and the
best game we played on the road at least. And
you know, it was a great basketball game. You can
call it whatever you want and second guests and blame
whoever you want to blame. It's a great basketball game

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between two teams that were and and and they could
have folded at one point when they were down nineteen
in the second quarter. I thought tonight to night where
you just gonna call it, you know, but I pull
out my Jones calculator and said, you know, if they're
down less than ten and a half, we're in business.
And and he worked, you have like a Jones like

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like a topic. My Tomily has asked me for it
some times, to calculate whether or not he should go
for two, but I haven't let it to him. Hey
before we you know what, we were gonna like do
our normal thing today. But we have two special guests.
Actually we have we have we have one and a
half special guests, and then of course the regular guy

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is is our boy a little more shot up here.
He is the Golden Boy. He's here, but we have
his were classmates, were you guys? What what was it? Yeah?
We were your apart in school? Okay? Who was ahead? Okay? Okay?
So the Golden Boy and we're he's kind of he's

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part of the staff. But we have a special guest
in athletic what we call it beat reporter Cavs beat
reporter from the Athletic Kelsey Russo there's a special guy.
I might been asking the great she's been big time
on us for like two years now, but we finally
we kind of lured her in with Matt gold because
they are Hudson. What's what's the Hudson? What do you guys? Oh? Explorers? Explorers?

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How's that? Explorers? You didn't want to have a moscow
that they have to change their name, right, I guess? So, yeah,
that's good. So it's politically corre mascot the mascot like
what was he dressed off? It was like it was
like I think I think the mascot's name was four,

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but it had like I don't know, he had like
a silver like almost viking looking helmet on. Okay, it
was he was Viking like plundered and pillaged, and you
know logo was a ship. Yeah, okay, so the same
was like, don't give up the shipka Kelsey. Were you

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and we think I was? I was net in Memphis
last night and Wednesday night? Were you? I was not?
I watched it from home. Okay, but you were on
the first part of the road trip with us, and
what did you think of I guess the games you
were at. The Utah game was obviously really cool. Yes,
the Utah game was very cool. It was very surprised

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and you know, kind of happy with the response that
Jazz fans gave Donovan and just kind of with everything
surrounding that. Um, that was a very good game too.
I'm mean, obviously that UM said that possession, that seven
point possession was kind of that one hurt, but but
it was a really good game. Other than that, Um,

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the Denver game was obviously tough because without Donovan playing, um,
you're missing a big piece and Yogis just kind of
dominated that game. But um, the Phoenix game, I thought,
you know, kind of considering that as they were missing
so many guys they needed to win that one, um,
and they showed just kind of a level of ability
to go out and take care business and get a

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win there. So I thought that was a good win.
Phoenix is glad they don't have to see our first
our guest tonight how Neto. Yeah, because man, he kicked
their ass this year in two games. He kicks anybody's
eyes when he comes in because I think he plays
at a speed so different than everybody else on the
team does. So everybody's used to whatever cadence we're defending on,

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and then you see these always I think it's like
a version of Delhi plays. He's the Brazilian Delhi. Yeah,
but he played with such reckless abandoned it and good
reckless abandoned. He kind of always makes an impact and
injects energy into our team and kind of disrops the
other side. So I I love how Netto. How Tony

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like someone us know him. But and it was cool
and it was cool to see him go back to
Utah as well. And so like said, he said that
they didn't have more for like like Antonio Land you
know he was coming back. Well, they had they had
a sign outside the locker room, which is kind of cool.
It was pretty cool. It was cool. It's the sign
of the times too, how they were actually some booze.

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You can't get rid of those, right after a guy
spent five years there and basically did everything well. And
I wonder if I wonder if any of that, any
of his racial comments, had anything to do with that.
I don't know. I don't know the one, the one
I'd say, one takeaway ahead from the road and Kelsey
know she's been on you guys have been on the
road with him. Donovan Mitchell is I'm I'm kind of

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in awe of him in one is a basketball player,
but also as a person. Wow. He mean, he is
the coolest guy. He'd be the he'd be the coolest
thirteen man on the team. The way he the way
he handles the media, the way he handled it that night,
the way he handles it every night. He's just he's cool,
He's approachable as far as a superstar he's now I'm

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what I'm saying is if he was in the team. Okay, Yeah,
let's talk about good important things. When Georgia won the championship, Yeah,
and Kelsey witnessed on New Year's Eve. She was there
to watch the demise of your beloved Ohio State Buck. Guys,
that was such a Georgia bulldog. I'm such a dog lover,

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you know it was. How drunk were you that night?
I was okay, very good. Yeah, okay that night of
the whole day, the whole day, We'll say, the whole day.
We started kind of early. We because obviously going to Georgia. Um,
all my friends like live in Atlanta, so we all
went to tailgates during the day and then went to
the game. So it's not like a home game, even

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though they give the same amount of tickets to both
schools or whatever. It felt like I mean, there was
a lot of O s U fans are like I
will like there was. It was. It felt pretty split. Obviously,
it's kind of hard to tell because both schools are
red or version of red. So it wasn't like the
Scarlet uh yes, but um, it felt like a home

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game just because so many people who live in Atlanta
are Georgia fans. So many people live in the state
of Georgia a Georgia fans, so it just kind of
felt like there was just a huge Georgia presence there.
You like the stadium, it's so cool. It is like
it is the layouts really cool there. Like the openness,
the scoreboard is really cool. Like it's just the it's yeah,

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I love it. Well, always have a special I mean, yeah,
I've seen I've seen them win SC champions it's there.
I've seen them now when you know, playoff games there,
So it has a lot of has a lot of meaning.
There were you nervous in the championship game? Oh yeah, Oh,
I mean I was. I was nervous until the fourth
quarter when it was you know, fifty something at seven.
If I was at Georgia fan, I would have stopped

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being nervous after I saw it like the first three
four play gaining the thing. In my years of going
to school there, I watched them lose. They were being
up to Bama and the SEC championship and then them
losing in the end, thinking that we had we were
gonna win and we were up. I don't remember what
the score was. Um, I've watched them losing a Hail

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Mary play to Tennessee. I've seen a lot of heartbreak
with this team. So I wasn't prepared to celebrate until
they would have discovered a new way of like, uh,
that would be that would have been like a fight possession,
I know. But I was like, it's not over until
it's over. So that's how I was functioning, even when

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it was with to convince Kelsey to go to the
game to Utah. Yeah, which would I would imagine that.
I was like, the main purpose of you being on
the road for Donovan Mitchell's returned to Utah, and I
was like, you know what I was trying to be like,
they don't do it? Do it person? And I was like,

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you know, that's the kind of night and the kind
of event that something like Murphy's Low anything that will
go wrong, can go wrong, will go wrong, and and
then so and it's a planet as airport and like
you might not be able to make it the next
day to Utah. And well, Kelsey and I and Chris
feed Or we watched the National Championship game together in

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Salt Lake City and we talked about the Golden Boy
a lot. We talked behind his back because because we
might as well have just been on the road. That's
true because Kelsey's friend from Hudson. Uh, we let's say
your name, yes, page yes, great girl, got you do
have the meter? She she was really and and we

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found out and we found out that in fifth grade
she asked l Muca Dorado to a dance and he
shot her down. Too good for then, and that's what
he said, That's what he said, I'm too good for you.
Oh my god, I remember I remember saying that. Actually, yeah,
it was horrible. She's still she's still she's still not

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still heartbroken. She's still kind of heartbroken about it. She
had to leave the state. She's in Salt Lake City now.
But anyway, so Kelsey, I gotta we gotta talk a
little basketball with you. How many years for you on
the beach? This is year three? Um, season four with
you know, all the COVID stuff, but technically years three. Okay,
So your first year was the COVID year. Yes, um COVID. Yeah,

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so was John milin all the all the turmoil, beautiful
break we had, yep um and then yeah, and then
COVID and then covering a basketball team for ten months
without basketball was really fine. Yeah, you know, in your
first year, I had no idea what I was doing.
But yeah, it's been of an eventful, eventful three years.

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Everything everything no basketball and bad basketball and no fan
basketball and great basketball. Now great basketball. It's been great.
How is how have things changed for you? Um? I
feel like they've changed a lot. I feel like I've grown,
Like I'm a lot more comfortable around the team, like,
you know, building relationships and connections, and um, understanding the

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game a lot. So it's really helped of just kind
of knowing what's happening around the team, being able to
take it in and understand like what's good, what's bad,
the you know, the ins and outs and everything. So
it's been a huge learning curve. I would say I
came in I mean when I started, I had covered
the w NBA that summer before I started here, but
that was the first time I've ever covered basketball. Um

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was when I covered the w n B A so
I didn't have a ton of basketball experience. So then
coming to cover the NBA was like a huge shift,
especially coming from Georgia where I covered football for four years.
So diversion of like those those players that go straight
from high school tool, yeah, it gives a lot of steps. Yeah,

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we talk about that. How you get yeah, yeah, Yeah,
it was it was scary, it was hard. Um, but
I feel like it's helped because I've figured I've been
able to figure it out, and I feel you also
probably seeing all the um not so good years was like,
honestly really helpful because I've always been told if you

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can cover a bad team, you can cover any team,
and so now kind of living through that kind of
learning on the fly helped prepare me for now. So
it's been a it's been a cool journey. Um. I
like the wind though, because it's helpful for me to
write stories that are um more positive and the guys
are in a better mood when they talk to you
and stuff like that, and you're the one athletic writer

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that when you walk, Yeah, we don't hate you anyway,
I'm kidding. We love those guys. I love those guys.
They're they're two of my favorites really, but yeah, I
love those guys really. I love the athletic guys. I
love him. I love him personally, but just you know,
around the organization. For some reason, I still have a
picture of one of those athletic guys. Why, the one

(15:17):
that you have in the media room. Uh, you have
a picture of whatever he's like yawning or something. O that. Yeah,
I need to see this picture. Yeah, we have a
picture of Jason Lloyd a massive yawn during a kaz game.
So covering this team, now, this is obviously a very

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different team than anything you've had before. What's been like,
And let's start with Danovan Mitchell because that's obviously the superstar. Yeah,
it's been great. I mean kind of like what you
touched on. He's so good with the media, Like, anytime
you need I ask him anything, he's really open to
talking about it. Um, he understands our role in it,
which is really helpful because you know, we do have

(16:02):
a job to do, and so it's it's kind of
nice that there's an understanding there of his father was
obviously yeah with the Mets and everything. Yeah, an the
bad thing about him proof that nobody's perfect. But no,
he's I mean, he's been great to cover. I mean,
obviously he's extremely talented. It's changed the trajectory for this team.
But he's been really cool to get to know. Um,

(16:23):
I've appreciated like all the time that I've got to
talk to him. I did that story out for Utah
about like his impact in the Utah community and how
he's like bringing it here to Cleveland, and it's been
cool to, like, you know, talk not always about basketball,
but talk about other things too, because you know, these
guys are so much more than just basketball players, and
I feel like sometimes that gets forgotten about. And um,

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so it kind of the opportunity to talk about that
was cool because it is another side of them, and
I think that's important to highlight. So, um, yeah, he's great.
That's my favorite part of the job is learning about what.
I gotta have you a question. You know, I have
added to I don't know, you don't know where, but
I have out in my eulogy because I want to
be the last person to talk to my funeral. Okay,
you know, I always got to have the last war.

(17:06):
So I am adding a little line now that I
have to add a little line to my stone, my
tombstone that I actually appear or not on a Kelsey
Russo article. But yes, you're in that, Jared allen Stone. Yeah,
I already appear too. So that piece of back in
October November or something like that about Jarrett and I

(17:30):
included the wave up to Rafa in the story. And um,
actually we were out in Sacramento and I texted you
because I just wanted to clarify, and I was like,
to do this every game, and so I included he's
not he's not waving an he's waving to you. He's
waving to you. Finished saying yea yea high five. In

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the last player he turns up to the to the
But of course I do made that part of the
beginning of the week. Something he doesn't lose. He's waving
at the stats. Guys, you think we have such a
good home record, But do you tell them where you
sit on the road then so you can wait. Yes,
but sometimes he doesn't see me. I just said, just
wave up, just waving that direction, you know, like the Chicago.

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But my point was I wanted to watch when you're
face to face. Like one of the first one of
the first conversations I have with Kelsey, which is kind
of funny, is she was actually been talking to somebody
about how my guy, I can't believe it's my high
school five year reunion made me feel yeah, And I
was like, wait a, yeah, well you're so far ahead

(18:41):
of the game right now, you really are. You should
be so handy. This is like my five year reunion
from my three years Union union man. You get into writing,
do you know? At what age? Do you know? What
would be your advice for people that want to? You know,
because I I admire what you guys do. I cannot
write for the love of my life, you know, I can't.

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I keep changing what I'm writing, I can going back
and I can't make up and then it doesn't make
any sense. How how do you get into it? How
do you discovered that you have that? Well? So, when
I was in high school, UM, basically like I did,
I'm not good at math. Still not good at math. UM,
I don't like science, Like there was just like a
lot of things. I was like, I don't like like

(19:24):
any of this. So then I was like, what the
heck am I going to go to college for UM?
Sounds familiar. Yeah, So then I ended up taking newspaper
because our school offered like a newspaper class, UM, and
so I was like, sure, I'll give to try whatever,
and I loved it, like it was awesome. UM, so
I did. That was my sophomore year. So then I
did newspaper all like sophomore junior, senior year, was on

(19:47):
the staff. Senior year like running the paper. UM, and
my teacher at the time actually she used to be
a journalist before she became a teacher, and she was like,
you can do this for a living. And I was
like floored. I was like what so? And I really
like the feature writing aspect of it. That's the one
thing that I really do enjoy. I know that's what
I'm good at kind of thing. And so I was like, Okay,

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I can do this for a living, Like that's cool.
So when I was looking at colleges, I kind of like,
I looked at journalism school. So I looked at Syracuse,
Northwestern ohe you, um, like Georgia obviously, UM, I looked
all around, but yeah, yep, UM, But I knew I

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also wanted to. I loved the sports aspect of it
and like, um, being able to tell the backstories of
these players. And so Georgia has like a sports media
like certificates of my degrees in sports journalism. UM. So
I kind of like I knew I wanted to specialize
in that. So that's why I end up choosing Georgia. UM.

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And then from there, like when I was at school,
did the paper there, like fell in love with it, um,
and just kind of when all on. So, I don't
know advice. I mean, this sounds silly, but it's just
like I just I love what I do, you know
what I mean? And I love writing. I wish I
was that smart at that age I was starting. I

(21:13):
started mechanical engineering. I was like, well you were, you
were smart. Yeah, that's smart. I don't want that. I
can't do that. I wanted to build get into and
I'm like I was shoveling like assphaal So Kelsey, I've
asked you about this before as well. In that being uh,
things are different now obviously than they were when I started,

(21:35):
obviously a million years ago. But being a young lady
in this or a young woman I should say, is
that I'm trying to be politically a young woman in
this profession. It is, it's still it's still it's tects
me a little challenging in some ways. Uh. And again,
when you talk to your other friends, did they kind

(21:56):
of say, man, that's kind of badass what you do?
What are the challenges that a young woman has, uh,
as opposed to a guy like Matt Gold. Yeah. Yeah, no,
I'm like, yeah, I mean they definitely are. I mean, obviously, um,

(22:17):
We've come a really long way, which is awesome. UM,
but there's still are challenges. I mean, like a lot
of it is you know, I and I'm I'm probably
overly cautious, but making sure that like, um, relationships are
kept professional and it's known that it's professional, and there's
you know, and because a lot of what I have
to do is you know, I talked to front office
guys and agents and players, etcetera, like over text her,

(22:40):
phone calls or whatever, and but knowing that it's like
this is work related, this isn't I'm not just texting
you because I'm flirting or I'm interested kind of thing
like um, and not that that's the assumption on the
other way around, but it's just like that just has
to be clear. Yeah, it's got to be clear. And um,
agents as well, Like it's kind of that. UM. A
lot of it's about like carrying yourself as sir own
way because I mean, like people that don't understand the

(23:04):
business and it's not like because if they're not in it,
people assume that like, oh, like what are you gonna
data player? When are you gonna I'm like that's not happening,
Like that's just not on the table. It's not what
I'm looking for. That's not why I'm here and um,
and just kind of like like I'm here to do
a job, like I'm here to do to write stories.
I'm here to report on the team. UM. But there

(23:24):
is kind of that like underlying connotation sometimes UM, people
thinking that's like why you're in the business, um, which
is kind of hard because it's like, well, that's not
really what I'm I'm not here for that, um. And
really yeah, it's just really about just like um, you know,
your reputation and just making sure it's upheld. UM. And
so a lot of that is just like I very

(23:46):
much careful with relationships and like working relationships and knowing
that it's um because things, I mean, you know, it's
slippery slope and it's exactly it's where we live in
and it's just it's just part of it. And like,
you know, it's gotten so much better obviously. You know,
like when I was in college, I heard stories and
like I had professors like tell us things that happened

(24:07):
to them when they were in locker rooms, and I
was just like absolutely floored and I was so scared.
And then you know, coming in like that hasn't been
the case at all. The whole different. It's all different. Yeah,
And I also think people's perception of the locker room
is so much different. Yeah, I'm sure it has changed

(24:29):
in the nineties, so now it changed. I'm sure it
has been. When they started allowing women into the locker room,
that was that there was a little pushback also from players,
especially like in the NFL, and it was you know,
so it changed, it changed the top. But let's talk
about we have two explorers here on on in this
wonderful want to go radio studios. Don't tell them where

(24:51):
we are. I'll ask both of you the same, and
you start first, Ladies, first, what was in high school
most like at the succeeds and avant garde glass clown
and what's the story we might go? I know, we
man down from the grade fifth grade on. I'm trying

(25:15):
to think it was so long ago your friends to
beginning with it was so yeah, I mean we were
like because we actually have we have a really good
mutual friend to um that like I was super close
with and so like I knew Matt through him. Um.
I mean it's not like I don't know we didn't
hang out a ton, but we, like, we live in
the same neighborhood. So to think of Matt, I mean,

(25:38):
I couldn't begin I'm trying to think back then. Now,
what about you? I mean yeah, I mean like probably yeah,
part of your hair still. Did she always have long hair? Yes? Yeah? Yeah. Um,
I mean, like like Kelsey said, we lived in the

(25:59):
same neighborhood, so you know, I don't know, riding the
bike or just seeing out and about or whatever. Our
good mutual friend and we belong to the same church too,
so we kind of, um, you know, cross pass a
little bit there, but you know, like we I mean,
like again, like Kelsey just said, you know, we weren't
necessarily hanging out or grab like we of each other

(26:22):
and you know we'd be cordial. Yeah he was too
cool from here. Yeah you were too cool. Yeah that's right. Yeah, Yeah,
that's where it goes. And we could get Paige on
the phone. You know, I'm just like, yeah, that's gonna
be that's gonna next thing to talk about. You have
to be one of our guests. Yeah, next year when

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we're in Salt Lake City, we have to make make
sure poor and broken girl and we gotta fix that
that apologize if you're if you're listening, Yeah, man, I
don't know it was you turned so many down even
remember that. Yeah, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have said

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you know what. Yeah, but it's gonna be three of us.
You know, if you had, maybe you had already said
yes to somebody. Can you imagine that this guy have
multiple girls? You're thinking too much of me, You're guessing
this isn't anybody anybody, Kelsey Russo, thank you so much
for joining us. I wanting to go to radio. It's
about time. We gotta have to have you back on.

(27:24):
Maybe after George wid their next title, Yeah, or when
we can finally get Paige on the show. Let's talk
about that experience that horrible. We have a zooming Yeah,
let's let's do that. Let's do that. I mean, all star,
I'll start, all staring start. If you're out there, I'm going,
oh okay, now, well okay, then you guys need to

(27:47):
talk to the higher ups. You know. I think I'm
probably we'll send you No, that's good, Okay, well yes
you can. Yeah, I'm gonna sign up on Okay, Kelsey,
thank you so much for joining guests, and we'll be
right back and with segment too in our special guest,
how right here on Wine and Gold Radio. I don't

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(28:40):
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welcome back to Wine and Gold Radio. Segment to radio,
and we are joined by Kevalier's guard how Neto? Right?
Did I do it? Right? Close? Close? He's been working
with me the whole time, so I've been practicing. And
first of all, I have to say thank you so

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much for joining us, because I know you've got to
be gassed from being on the road. This has been
a tough road stretch. I didn't even go to Memphis,
and I'm I'm tired. I'm tired. From watching, so no,
I'm still tired from the five game trip before that
was that was kind of a long trip. So thank
you so much for joining us. Cats coming off a
tough one, but you gotta put it behind us because

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the cam As. We got a big one this weekend
coming up, the champs and the books the last two
NBA champs. So how thank you so much for joining us.
Are we allowed to talk about? This is a podcast
so we can chop things up. Are we allowed to
talk about? Raphael also told me about your your real name? Yeah?
Is that the right way? Is that? Is that the

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right way to say it? I don't want to put
you on the spot, but he told me that you're
you're what This is what I tell you. If you're
gonna if you're gonna say how, you can't say neto,
right yeah, because importing right yeah? Right. If you're gonna
say how, you got to say netto because in Portuguese,
just as in Spanish, we pronounced the tease every letter

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you say. It's not like math, mathematics or like robotics whatever.
So it's if you're gonna say how, because they are
in Portuguese is like a like a you're gonna you
gotta say net I hate it when I got on
there on the on the road and it's like, how neto,
that's what I said. I said raul Neto immediate day

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and Ricky Rubio laughed it. That was embarrassing. That was embarrassed.
He teached me about it. So anyway, so I'm really trying,
uh explain how you're the origin of your of your
of your real name. So yeah, I mean, first thing
is when people ask my name, I even pronounced rat
if I said how Neat, Everybody is like, wait, what

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how you say that? How? He's probably And I don't
want to have to explain every time I say my name,
but I appreciate you saying that, right, I'm trying. Um
So it's funny because um neto is means grandson in Portuguese,
and because my granddad's name was Raoul. How my dad's
name is Hau and I'm the third. The neto means

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the third. But my actually family name were uh my
granddad family name, and my dad's family name is Tony
t o G And I okay, it's very cool, like
Tony Tony. Yeah Italian, so Italian. You don't say that,
so it's Tony. How say um? But it's like like

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like the Spanish, So that's that's a cool You'll be
like you being Joe Gabriel and your son is Joe
Gabriel Jr. So they called him junior, and then you
your grandson being Joe Gabriel the third, so then you
don't call him the third. So netto means grandson. So
that would be if I was playing in another country

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and they called me Joe the third, that would be
the same kind of third. But the thing is, how
do you how do you how do you become your
last name? Just because I mean growing up my first
international games, they used to see my on my idea
and he says, how Tony netto and they just like,
what's your last name? Netto? And people don't know the
story behind it, so they use netto on my jersey

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and uh. And I never really thought about changing to
to to Tony until I got married. And then also
my my my granddad passed away and he used to
say that I was gonna make his his family name famous,
but nobody knows his family name because I used netto.
So like the last season, I had a discussion with

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my family and my wife and they all, I mean,
my dad wanted me to change, and my wife wanted
me to change to Tony. I don't know if it's
too late. I don't know if I can do that.
We're starting a campaign, man, so maybe maybe next year,
you know, like I mean, this conversation could be at
the start of something, you know, like coming out and
and and putting my name as as Tony. I have

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to go and officially put a hyphen on my name
because my last name is Hernandez Brito. My mom's name
is Brito, and my mama was like in school, everybody
knew me for for Brito because the uncommon last name
Hernandez or Hernandez. Like they said yeah because like like
like what was saying and they don't said the same

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thing to me because I always asked him, why do
you don't correct him when Calderon right ide, like you
know what even I say is sometimes, but my dad
hates when they when he hears Hernandez like because the
h is mute. So I put a hyphen because when
I went to say and a boxing event or a
super Bowl or credential, they will you put like Raphael

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Brito Ornan de Brito, thinking it was like my middle name,
so they would just just murder my name all the time.
So it's like that's why I put the H. My
name is a mess with all the documents too, because
my all my Brazilian documents, my name is Hau Tony Neto.
But um I have Italian passport. So in my Italian passport,
because they know Tony is my last my family name,

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they changed the order so my name on my Italian
passengers Neto Tony as the last name. So sometimes like
the team will buy me the ticket and I'll bring
my idea and the names are mixed because Netto is
the last name. So it's like I'm trying to like
the last three or four years, it's been being me
fixing my names on we're starting a campaign here radio. Yeah,

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I absolutely think we just started hearing. I mean, hello,
Netto is a great name, but the family name, especially
knowing it's Italian. Now now I really well he has
Italian he has Italian citizenship. Yeah, and what you do
you have an option when he came to play for
Brazili Italy No, because I started really soon playing for Brazil,

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like a five yeah, yeah, I was like I was
fifteen the first time I played for Brazil, so you
were already I was admitted. Yeah, I was eighteen when
I played professionally at the Brazilian national team. Uh. And
I didn't. I don't speak Italian. It's just something that
it's like my grand grand grandparents are from Italy. They
came to Brazil when all the war and stuff was happening,

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and and I have that background in my because he
knew how how how good was to have a European passport,
how easy it is to travel and even for basketball.
I don't think he was thinking about that because I
got my passport and I was twelve thirteen, um so,
so yeah, I couldn't choose playing for Italy because of that.
I never lived there at um and that probably made

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it easy for you and Barcelona as well when you
started playing in Europe now, because were you were not
a foreigner playing for the team, you were were European.
They only they only get non European players if they're
really really good, and me, as eighteen year old, I
wasn't there yet. So having the Italian past for really
helped my career. When you're when you're a young player

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growing up in Brazil. Is your ultimate gold the NBA
or is it playing just internationally and playing for your
Brazil Because Ralf always talks about how patriotism is just
different in other countries, playing for the national team means
more than it does here. I always tell him that
it is. It is beyond on me when I find out,
like like sometimes like the big start for the NBA

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for whatever the reason, they choose not to go to
the Olympics, or not to wear the national jersey in
Brazil in soccer or an any sports. I mean, they'll
kill to get to where to play for the national team.
That doesn't happen here, right and I And yeah, I
think it's a little different. I think because of there's
so many players. I mean with basketball, for example, you

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can take the first and the second and third team
in the USA and they're all gonna be favorites to
win the championships. So it doesn't really matter who goes,
they're always going to be on top. Yeah, but it
happens in Brazil. I'm sure name are. I don't care
how tire he is. If he has a chance to
go play for the play in the world but also
you grew up like kids. I think in the States,
they grew up looking at what NBA know, I want

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to be NBA player. In Brazil, you grew up looking
at the national team like I wanna. My My idols
were very young and in Chicago's Flitter in Barbosa and
then all those guys were the guys that I look
up to because also because growing up, I didn't have
access to that many NBA games Um. And then once

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Barbosa went to the Phoenix, that's when I started watching
the NBA and that's when I was like, oh, I
want to be there, But the national team was always first,
and I think that's how you grew up. And and
the other thing about the national team is you play
with the same guys. So my first national team I
was fifteen, and there's still guys from that fifteen year
old on the fifteen year old team that still played

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in the national team, you know, like Felicio Um Kabokl,
those guys that we've played together growing up. Now we
have the chance to compete against like professionals. So that's
also something that it's not only about the money, the
fame or the NBA. You know, it's like it's your
brothers that you grew up with, and you you have
the chance to do something something great. You mentioned, Uh,

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Anderson Vadaja. You know, we're having a night for him.
He's finally coming back. It's one of the most beloved persons,
not only brothers, but also here in Cleveland. I think
he belongs to Cleveland. And he's one of those guys
that I had never met anybody that has anything bad
except for me about somebody job. But like, what does
he mean to you? And and and and your knowledge

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of Anderson growing up and and and in Brazil. I
know he's like he's beloved in Brazil as well. Yeah,
I mean he's amazing. He was. He was huge for
me growing up, first watching him play and then uh
when I was eighteen, I was playing with him in
the national team. And the way him and I always say,
all of those those guys together, Uh, they always you know,

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they took me under their arms and took care of
me and like and really taught me a lot of
things besides basketball, you know, like how to behave, how
to take care everybody. Uh. Invery Jon was one of
those guys. You know, he played in the League for
so many years, always in the high level, always playing,
you know, super tough and uh, and I feel like
that's how I played too. So I really think that Um,

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seeing him and seeing how he approached the game and
how he treat people around him. Uh, it's an example
that you you follow, and he was that guy, one
of those guys for me and uh. And like you say, everybody,
everybody loved him, not not just because the player he was,
but if you walk around in the in the in
the arena with him, he's always he knows everybody. He's

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saying hi to everybody. He treats uh, you know, the
security guard the same way he's going to treat me
or you. So that's something, uh that I think is
pretty special, besides his basketball skills, in his blooding the
wild thing. In Portuguese, it's like um Sylvijing. We don't

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tr Yeah, we never really translated that, you know, just
say the wild. Did he have a nickname? In Brazil
we call him um Perruka because of yes hair um,
but that was more like an inside yeah, like between
you guys, Marcellinos, are the other players kids calling him Ruka?

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My god, Marcellino, I remember him. I always I always
tell these guys how there are so many players that
people here in the US don't know about and that
are good enough to play in the NBA. I think
made it to the to the Lakers, and I'm a
Barcelona guy, so he's this guy and so it's Andy.
So those guys were like, there's so many When I

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used to do the Spanish League on TV here, there's
so many players that could play in the NBA that
you don't get to see. And I invite anybody to
if they get a chance to watch those games. It's
really good basketball. It's a lot harder player. I think
it's like the cadence of the game is a little
faster than than what we used to hear because of

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the stars we have and everything. But over there is
the hustle is unbelievable. Argentina, Argentina, Argentina had the bragging
right because of the Olympic goal, and it's there. It's
the rivalry between Argentina and Brazil just as bad in
basketball as it isn't anything. I mean, soccer is bigger
because I mean Argentina and Brazil I think is two

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of the biggest teams in the in the world, the world.
I think we are not. Brazil basketball is not there yet,
you know, so I think it's a little less but
every time. But I think Brazil basketball put Latin America
on the map. Yes, I think so. Which when in
the Schmidt's era, I mean, he's the first guy that
you actual because then you have the Argentina and Golden

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era when they won, you know, with all these so
Brazil dominated before the yeah, you know, they just never
were able to make it. And then then then Argentina
was the team to be in South America for a
long time. And I think, uh, there's still the last
couple of tournaments, they still were better than US. But
I think Brazil and Argentina is two of the best

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South America basketball team. Can you imagine that the US
if they played together the way Brazil the way international
teams do that they played together on the national teams
from like twelve and on, if they played all those
years and that was that's one of the biggest advantage
that Argentina had. I think that those guys that won
the gold medal, they have been together since they were

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really young. So and here you get a different team
all the time, a different team on the players in
the States that it's hard. But sometimes somebody that is
the best player in high school, it's not even going
to make it to the NBA and you can't really
put that guy to play with hard in the first team,
you know. So there's just too many players. What kind
of advantage does they give you in your just in

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your career that you started so young that by this
time in your career you've seen everything, even five years
ago you had seen everything. Yeah, Um, I think just
just being more mature, having more experience, you know. Um,
it takes a lot on your body too. That's I
think one of the negative things. You know, since since

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our sixteen seventeen I was playing with guys thirty year old,
you know, and and and playing the way I play.
It's it's a long way to go. But um, I
mean you see, like you said, you see everything. You know,
you're playing every possess, every situation, being every situation. You've
been teams that playing the playoffs. I've been teams that
went to the second division in Spain, so you kind

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of seed everything and you play around guys that are
great players, um, not that great off off the core,
not that great on the core, but amazing, amazing people.
So like you kind of see everything and if you're
smart and if you're um, I don't know. If you're smart,
you just take the good things and see what not
to do, see what to do and and kind of

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like grow yourself. Uh. And and like you said, I've
seen everything, so I feel like I'm prepared for every situation.
So this is the question everybody wants to know, how
because we know you like Cleveland. When it comes to
Brazilian food, We're both fans of batuki. Are you happy
in Cleveland? Are you are you? Can you tell us
what what the experience has been for the Tony family

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here in Cleveland? No, I like Cleveland. I think the
one thing about the season for me is I don't
I don't do much, you know, like we always we've
talked about at the beginning of the uh this this
this podcast, how how tough it is like after those
road trips, you know, like I've been struggling in the
last three days, uh to fall asleep to you know,
like and I don't have time to go like explore

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or go out or do things that you know, it's
clear that in bigger cities you you have more things
to do than here. But what when it comes to basketball,
the organization is amazing, the fans are amazing. I have
everything I need, you know, like there's there's good enough restaurants,
there's uh, you know, everything I need. So I'm very

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happy in my family. My parents are here right now.
Um and for them, I mean from Brazil, every time
they hear everything is amazing, you know. And I'll take
them into restaurants, I'll take them to a to a
park to walk around. And my mom is just happy
going to the Cleveland signing taking a couple of pictures Instagram.
You're very easy and and and yeah, I've been loving

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to to to be here and it's been a great
place for me. You were now just to go back
and talking about the road trip for a second. We
went back to Salt Lake City, where you played i
think your first four years of your career. Uh, Donovan
obviously a huge deal around Donovan. Uh what was that
like going back for you? I mean you kind of
flew a little more under the radar. What's what's Salt

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Like City going to be like for All Star? And Uh,
what was that whole experience like for you? Just even
watching Donovan now he handled things. It's always amazing to
go back. I think that's where my biggest growth in
the NBA has been, just because it was my my
first four years. Uh. My wife is from there, so
we have a house there. I slept at home the

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two nights that was. That was amazing and it's always special,
you know, even though um, we we lost the game.
We should have we should have won it, and that
heard it more than anything, but um, but it was special.
You know. I got to see my wife, I got
to see uh, my stepson and in our family or friends.

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I've had so many guys at the game that I
couldn't even say hi, so many friends. Uh. And and
then later that the night I saw on Instagram that
they were all there and and I felt the love.
And it's always it's always really nice to to to
go back. The night before the game, I had to,
I mean, I got to spend time on my so
me and my brother in law, we had a we

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have a foundation that we just opened this past summer,
so we we treated our first family and I got
to meet them and uh say hi, and and you
know see the work that we've done for them. And
they were at the game. So I played with with
the uh their kids before the game, and that was
that was special was abundation. It's a UM my brother

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in law is a pediatric dentist and uh we are
hoping to to to take care of kids and families
that doesn't have money to go to dentists, access to
the two dentists and treat them around the world. You know.
We started with that family, uh in Salt Lake City.

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It's a it's a foreign family from Colombia, single mom
with two kids. Her son I think is five or six.
He had no like all all of his teeth in
front was um, he had no teeth and we had
to put some uh some some temporary ones before like
he's he's really girl. And in planning, Uh, the mom

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came from Colombia and he had she had braces and
she had no way to take it out or to
fix it or and she had no money. So UM,
we got a dentist office that is above my my
brother's in law office, and he did all her braces
and we're gonna do her braces for the next I
think year or so unto until it's man. Let us

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know if we can help you raise funds that we
jump on that. Yeah, we're starting. So we're trying to
like learn about about foundations, about nonprofits and and see
what ways we can you know what we gotta do here.
We can do like auction off like New Jersey if
you play or you shoes. We can get the guys involved,
which I promise you all get involved with you and

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that we raised some fun, funlanning things. I'm planning a
camp in Brazil because i want to take back to
my community to and of course shake it back in Brazil.
And I'm planning a camp in July end of July,
and all the funds from the camp and and maybe
an event we do like sponsorships. We all going to
take all that money and do that. You know, the

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Calves are working on growing the game. I'm sure you're aware.
We're building basketball courts in already. Chunched your hotel, yeah,
I heard they were doing. And we should get involved.
We should. We should throw your your foundation yeah with Lorenzo, Yeah, yeah,
we should. We should talk to them and see if
we can include your found what's the name of your foundation,
it's happy to foundation. Man, We're on board. I'm telling you,

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I'm going to bring it up to the guys at
the calves of the marketing side. We would love to
maybe do that because they've been going to Brazil. I
think Anderson is going, and I heard the second time
we're going. I don't know details about this. I'll get
you the details, man, and we'll put Happy Tooth involved.
And I think that the muster that it has to
be included. Man, that's that's going to be a crusade

(50:37):
for the show. You no, no that I'm changing the
Jersey name. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll
let you go because man, go and get some sleep.
I've been trying to tell these guys how I can
talk to you in Spanish and you talk back to
me in Portuguese and uh and we understand each other.

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But we have now an Instagram account on in Portuguese.
Can you talk to them and send them a message
in Portuguese? But Portuguese help. It's so hard to speak
Spanish and Portuguese because I mix it, I end up

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speaking portugnal. But there's a lot of words that are
the same and then some of them are totally different.
Just got to change the pronunciation. So what what's the
message for the for the Brazilian fans, for the Portuguese
speaking in portug In Portuguese, Jo Brazil Moti continue to

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continu a partner. But it's amazing how I understand everything,
but I can't speak. It's so hard. But thank you
so much. I promise you happy too will be included.
Happy too, Happy it would be included in our in
our efforts at least on on one and goal ready idio,
We'll figure out away to raise some fun and and

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put a smile on a kid that needs it. Like
it like thank you, thank you, I said, any mother kids, nickle,

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Segment three. That was how how how how Tony don't
make too many efforts on the how Okay, I'm trying

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to I'm trying to think of a word and to yes.
The other day where I was, I was texting J
Mike because I have an issue with the way they
put on the in the media notes the pronunciation guy.
So they have this guy from from Memphis char Yes,
So I wanted to ask him if he was char
like Steak or char like Charlotte, you know, because they

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put like c O N c h a R. But
the h a r it could be two different ways
to pronounce. But that they put is there like a
little accent and no, no, no c h a r
like shar or sharp. Yeah, that you know what I
mean that it's a second. It's it's a language barrier.
So is there is there a name in the NBA

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you can't say? You have very much I have with
the with the with the th h s and uh
and like Daniel thicce. No, No, that that's a that's
a that's more of a foreign name. I don't have
any issues with the foreign names, like like, uh, what's
the name of the kids from Atlanta Young those areas. See.

(54:53):
The one that gets me that I can neither say
nor spell is frank Ni Nili Kina frank ne ne
neely Kina Ka Neely Keena Ka neely Keina. That's an
easy one for me. It's little easier, but I mean
I have issues with the with the with the English
pronunciation of the th h, with the like you know,

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it's weird. A C couldn't say Alexei Scheed. But I
love like most of the African names are pronounced the
way they're written, so it's a lot easier for me
to like she metsa met too and all the all
these other names. But the ones that you have to

(55:38):
do the English pronunciation of the letters is that the
ones that kind of like JG. Can you spell your
honest his last name from memory? A N T E
T O, k oh you and M p oh. It
sounds in front, but that's right now. You know what

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used to do for the first few years. I just
got the cut faced. But you know what people and
he's Kombo Kumbo, right, Johnnykumbo. I love They killed his
name all every night, even the people for me. Yeah,
I love you, honest. I gotta tell you a quick
tin A brought your honest quick d of story. Uh

(56:20):
the morning Lebron decided to come back to Cleveland, back
in what Cleveland that's before you you, yeah, for that
big decision. But it was the morning of and we
were in Las Vegas and we were shoot around. We
were playing the Calf Summer League team. That's Andrew Wiggins.

(56:41):
We're gonna play Milwaukee that night, and everybody in Vegas
was waiting on this decision, waiting on the decision, and
when it happened, it was big news across everywhere, everywhere,
and certainly across the NBA. So we finished up, we
went to shoot around. David Blatt was the coach. Everybody
was just in a great mood. Nobody was even serious
at all. Everybody's just laughing and goofing around. And the

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guy who actually used to have your job, Nick Nick Adams.
It was just he and I in the gym. The
Calves had all left the gym, and it was just
he and I working empty gym, and we were all
alone and the door opens and all of a sudden,
a little ahead just stick to the door, just a person,
and it's Jannice and he's just looking at the both
of us, and he takes his thumb and he runs

(57:25):
it across his throat like his head. Just as slowly
he goes out the door and the door closed, and
I'll always remember that. I always did you honest because
of that, because he had a good Yeah, he's just
I think he gets it and he's really cool. So yeah,
really good and he's really good. And the Calves will
face him this weekend. That's a it's gonna be a
it's gonna be a rough weekend. And I think his

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brother he's a dangerous man to where he plays, he's tough.
He's a tough player. He's dangerous. Sometimes he's like like
the other D word dangerous, like dirty, Yeah, not dirty,
but like reckless dangerous. Think he's just placed too, like
that fault maybe the fault he had on our windler
that time. Yeah, yeah, that that was that's that's yeah,

(58:08):
that's a that's a little that's borderline, borderline to me.
But then, what what did you got? Oh? Actually, you
know what the second three? So I had heard about
I wanted something. What's that? You have a beef? I
can have a beef. Really, It's like, it's like these
are my things. Because we always talk about game presentation, yes,
and things you'd like changed, and you know, as long

(58:28):
as we're gonna do our crusade for how Tony and
the what is the happy to I'm getting on board
who you are, so the two things I want to
change speaking to game presentation now, I'm onto it because
we talked about it with Jake our special guests couple
weeks ago. I want a monkey for halftime shows. A monkey,
so we could obviously, but we you know, now that

(58:51):
we talked about it, I think that that's the next
one become monkey or or on orangutan fun. Reggul tangs
are fun. Would accept the rangtangs, Yes, I would cute
monkeys and number one like Clyde and uh everybody, but
you don't want the monkey. They want that. They see
these cries when he went to Brazil, like, I don't

(59:12):
know this head and the squirrel body, I don't know.
You gotta what is it? We gotta have a zeke
on the show and talk about weys. We definitely do.
I know. I don't want those kind of monkeys you
want to. I want a regular monkey like, but I
think it'd be fun to have like like every which

(59:34):
way but loose and I'm down with that. I wasn't
until you just mentioned it now, but yeah, if we
could have a clide the good old like where with
the gun and like that. Yeah, that that would be good.
So yes, that's my number one thing is to try
and Adam minds if you're listening, and I know you're not,
I would like a monkey on the halftime show. And

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then the other thing I have and this is now,
this is a little more serious, and this is for
I guess this bee for Josh Shabo maybe, but for
game ops. Either way, we at the end of every game,
at the end of every Caves victory at home, we
play Cleveland Rocks, which I'm all about. I think that's
a great thing. However, we play the Presidents of the

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United States version of Cleveland Rocks, which is a band.
It's not really it's a band, right, it's not actually
it's it's an acronym. If you think about don't it's
not like point It's not like what is that point? Break?
Is that like? That? Is that a Reagan? No? No,

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it's a band from Seattle. And I love this band.
They're the ones who did uh uh peaches. I actually
have to confess that I've never heard of them. You
have heard of them, You definitely have heard of What
the beef is that? I love this band and I
love that song. Just that version of that song is
not the correct version. It's not the hard chick assuming

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Ian Hunter who's in a band called Matt the Hoople
back from like the David Bowierra British. Have either one
of you guys heard the Ian Hunter version of Cleveland Rocks?
Not knowing I'm sending it to both of you guys.
That song rocks that the President's version is from Drew Carey.

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It's it's designed for a sitcom. It's a cute see
version of Cleveland Rocks. It's not the cool version I
wanted to play. That's that's might be. How long have
you been with the Cavs. This is my twentieth season.
Can you explain to me why we play Billy Jean
at the end of every game? When I can't explain that,
I can't explain. That's something that I would like to know.

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You know that one. I don't know either. I don't
mind playing when I'm not, but I might I might
be when the game is going to be over and
we were dribbling the clock out, or that we're in
the game, they start playing. They start playing Billy Jean. Yeah,
you're ready, and I unconsciously included in my broadcast because that,

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I mean, my brain is already trained for. But I
would like to find out what the reason. That's another
question that is because it's like, now that you're right,
because that's when we're about to win the game. I
always play when we're gonna win, and they need Yankee Stadium,
a Yankee Stadium when they when the Yankees win the game,
they play Frank Sinatra's version of starts playing the news,

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and when they lose, they play they played that, they
play what's her Name? Version? Like, yeah, I think that's
awesome that I would like to find out why Michael
Jackson Billy Jen Milligen, but I said, we need a
geno man. But by the way I got, oh, my God,

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would be the greatest. You cannot copy that, you can
he passed by the way he did, Yeah, he's that dad.
That danswer is was that I still have that T shirt.
For those of you who don't know, that's what they
do in Boston the Garden, they played I think the
Soul Train. I don't know if it's a Sultan or
American band, and there's a disco sound disco band playing

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and he's like dancing moving like no one else can
better than Joe volta fever. And he's the dude with
like a like bell bottom tight pants and a T
shirt and and you know, moving in there in the
dance floor, right and and I have I still have
that awesome. I hate Boston and I hate but I

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know that one is awesome. It's great. It's organic. People
people love it. Yeah, so love that. Hey, the nice
we had that. I'll ask Josh about the Billy Jean,
you know what we gotta let's add by on the show,
ask him about this our suggestion. The other thing I
was going to tell you is that I finally found
a way thank to our friend Matt Eck from also
from Game Open to the team and Feel House TV

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whatever whatever it is that they do. Now, I got
a list of the halftime show that we're going to
have that we're gonna be in. We're want a Crusade,
And the first interview we're gonna have is Christian and
Scooby are gonna be here on the thirty one for
the game on the thirty one, and we're gonna start
having him on the show since he's been a favorite

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for everything. What about Christian gets a monkey. Christian and
Scooby that, yeah, I told him that he needs to
get a monkey. Maybe the dog right in the monkey.
I don't know what I've seen a monkey writing dog.
At the same time that I want to have the
dude with the chair, I forget his name. I think
more like the angry sladder, you know, I want to

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I want to suggest to him, even though we all
think that that that that the halftime show is one
of the best ones, he should include like a fall off,
like on the second chair and smack a chair on
see for giving it the win the wrong was the
wrong way make it more entertaining, because then everybody will

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be like when nobody wants to see an old guy
fall down or break a share scots Hey, he doesn't
have to hurt himself up from the second chair. He
can land him and like be mad at Search for
giving him the chair the wrong way or something, you know,
because you have to be search you see ruin it okay,
pronounced that guy's name, and then we'll say thank you.

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See That's the thing is, like I don't know how
behind we really we first have to thank how Neto
Tony who we're going to change his name right here
on the show. That's our that's our first cruise. First
person studies the people on cabs dot Com to start
referring to him as he wants. His wife wants that

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he's grandfather the West in Peace ones that exactly. He
wants his family name to to prevail. It's his family name.
And we are going to have email Adam Silver right after.
I don't want to be called Joe the third. Have
nothing to do with the commissioner. Oh no, he needs
to change it though, for change and he just have.
We will have no choice. So we have to say
thank you to Rock Cool how Tony. We have to

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say thank you too, Dorado, the ladies man who thinks
he's too good, too good, a college swimmer, swimmer back,
old man, I tell you, a good looking lady, a
beautiful girl inside now, Matt and like you, we have
to thank the Kelsey Russover coming on. She was great.

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And then of course the people that really make all
this go, Robert J. Hageman. Of course we have to
thank him. He does all the technical stuff. We have
to thank b J. Evans Uh and the PR staff
b J who runs the PR staff. As you know
they are in fast band. Uh and then of course
uh and slinging Sammy and our own Devin Booker. And

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also we gotta say here's here's a good thing because
we talked earlier about how cool Donovan Mitchell is. Donovan
Mitchell got Devin Booker the sons Devin Booker to autograph
might have been even a Devin Booker jersey after the game.
And Booker didn't even play against us and he still did.
That's how cool to the real Devin Booker signed sons.

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How great? Yeah, so that that's a good example. So
that's for the PR staff. I've worked a lot of
money something sometimes soon yeah, that will that will be. Actually,
that's so good for her and she's great. We have
to say thank you to the greatest human in Cleveland,
Lucy Matt and Lucy Arris. I'm sorry, Lucy Varis and
the greatest she's the greatest female in Cleveland, the greatest

(01:07:43):
male in Cleveland. D Mac, the guy that makes this
all happen, and of course the dynamic duo of Dirty
Kurt and the pickle ball king Marty Allen. Yeah, he
actually he had a back problem. So he's raising the
level of his competition from eighty to eighty five of

(01:08:06):
speaking to that Man. I was on the road this
fast time, and I didn't check for a bid day
one time. Today place I have a biday. Three of
the five hotels who didn't even check? Did you use?
Are you count it? No? Because I always think of
a big daddy. Now he's a by day expert. Hey,
we'll see you guys next week or soon and as always,

(01:08:27):
good night, pretty mad. Wherever you are, chair wide open,
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