October 13, 2023 • 43 mins
Joe G and Rafa (who recounts his tale of scaling Mt. Kilimanjaro) open Season 4 with a cadre of Cavaliers -- including Donovan Mitchell, Georges Niang, Emoni Bates and Tristan Thompson -- to discuss the ending of last season and what to expect in 2023-24.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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There back outside it goes to Peaks for three day.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Broadcasting live from Rocket Mortgage Field House on the sunny
shores of beautiful Lake Erie.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Get the dr ome bus. But I got it that
it's not you, and so regress. I got something in
downtown Cleveland. Hello, you've tuned in to Wine and Gold Radio.
Now you're your host?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Rafa hey Man, Am I driving? Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And Joji, I think we're parked.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yay everybody, and welcome back from our little hybernation waking
up to the season.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
When you say that, I think of those movies when
the bear is like that, like his hair is all
like like one side.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I am jo g To my left, Oh my god.
To my left Isdesbrito, the world traveler. We're gonna hear
about his adventures. This is the first first episode of
the season four. This is for us, can you believe it?
And now is the word yes, cadence And now we're
(02:27):
just gonna pick it up and and do the Cadence.
We're checking in after the Calves dropped their second straight
preseason loss, but JB said before the game he doesn't
care so much about wins and losses. It's more about
how the team looks.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It makes so much sense though, you know, there's different things.
Guys are still working, especially you know, we were coming
back from from from the playoffects it last year and
everything that has been talked about and everything that have
been like you know, like my grandma used to say,
like putting your scream in the sky. She will say that,
you know, like and and we have big pieces that
(03:02):
have been added to this formula. And again the trust
is in the coaching staff that's going to be able
to make them blend. I'm sure they went out and
got those pieces because they thought it was it was doable,
you know, Max Strus and you're just niang. The whole
thing about shooting being needed, the whole thing about opening
up the lanes and everything. So that's what the preseason
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is about for us. You know, like like Carrie said
in Atlanta, it's like after two three weeks and maybe
the whole summer of facing each other, you finally get
to pounds on somebody, you know, the colored uniform and
other teams. So it's not about the wins and losses.
For sure. In the preseason, I don't care why anybody
says you don't care about winning or losing, But it's
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more about, like you can tell JB. Still looking for
like combinations and guys that fit, and guys that you know,
not only combinations of lineups, but also combinations of two
three players that can actually blend in. So at the
end of the day, the fun parties at the end
of the games when you see these guys that yes,
you might think it's garbage time. Yeah yeah, but for
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those guys, I'm looking to fill the eyes of the
coaches to get even told me the getting a job
in the g D.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I like what I've seen of Craig Porter Junior.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I love that kid.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
His skill set is really good. I mean, obviously, you
know you want to start picking like, Okay, his height,
but I love the way he plays.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Man. His height hasn't stopped him yet, no, but I.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Like the way he played. I loved him in college
when he was wichital State, but I like the way
his skill set is translating into the NBA too.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He's an aggressive kid. I'm kind of around the practice.
I'm kind of call him Deli two point zero. Yeah,
because he's he's tough, he's competitive, a little more offensive skill,
Yeah for sure. For sure, he's probably a better ballplayer
than But I'm just saying he's he's got that X
factor to him, you know that, you know, I mean,
he could he could open a lot of eyes this year.
(04:56):
We'll talk about him. But what we're gonna do today
is we did media day. So that was over a
week ago now, so we're going to talk about some
of the guys we talked to, and uh, what.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Season is this for you?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
For me, I think this is my I think this
is my twenty first.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Do you invent that NBA dot com?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I definitely invented an NBA dot com, but not the
internet that was for Cavs. For Calves, I think this
is my twenty first season.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
This is my tenth season.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Really, I know it is your tens. I read it
in the press release. Yeah, so I'm gonna say I
didn't do squat this summer just to catch people up
with our our comings and goings. I didn't do nothing.
I sat around, I worked on my house things like that,
worked on the alabow and play with the animals, stuff
(05:45):
like that. But you you had a literally a world adventure. Well,
I had a.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Really good summer without planning it. Yes, I had thought
about it, and you and I have this caught about
how my wife they served some time off and some
something coming from me like a gift. So it started
with a wedding in New York, my nephew got married.
And then at the moment it felt like the worst
thing that could have happened to me that United S
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randed us for like ten days in New York City
with no bags, with nothing, nothing to worry about whether
we were paying hotels or not. So you know, we
got stuck in New York City in Wall Street downtown,
you know, with my parents who had just turned ninety
five and eighty five and got COVID the first night.
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We got stranded at the airport. So here I am
heading on to New York. Luckily I didn't get anything.
My wife did. Lily did get towards towards the end.
So my father isn't wonder was but it was kind
of mild. But we were there for like six seven days, right,
and we definitely. We took the make Let's make lemonade thing,
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So we went with like Lily and I always wanted
to go to the nine to eleven Museum we were
founding members and and then but I had never gone
in all my time that I've been to New York
because I wanted to go with her. So we took
a trip, but we had no clothes. We went shopping,
I mean it was like a wild thing, and we
just New York naked. Yeah, basically, yeah, we were like
the guy in bore in in in Times Square. I
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just needed the diaper and the guitar. So then we
went to California right and and stayed a month there,
and then while there, decided to take Lily for a
day trip to Josephine and we went to the Sequoia
Park beautiful, like amazing. Lily loves taking pictures, and so
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the whole summer was about me pleasing giving something back
to everything my wife does too in the season and
everything she puts up with. For sure, while we were there,
Roberto Robert there is, who worked for for the not
for the who covers the cabs in Spain, kind of
offered for us to go visit him and and stay
with him, which made it a lot more affordable. And
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you know, in the summer in Europe, you know, four
hundred and fifty five hundred dollars a night and I
couldn't do it. So we stayed three weeks in Spain. Wow.
We also took day trips and drove to Andorra for
one day, drove to drove to France to go to
Ladio Lurdas Lily and I always wanted to go before
we even met each other. We wanted to do that.
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So we went to Louriers. I rode my bike and
I tore my leg one of the most iconic to
the France hills, you know. And I noticed why I'm
not on TV because like twenty minutes into my ride,
I was dying and it was still like three four
hours to go. Yeah, you're not land. I'm strong yet
so now not at all, not even if I did
all that stuff. So I had a great three weeks
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in Spain. And while I was there, my brother Carlos,
my oldest brother, who just retired, had a spot opened
because he had planned to go climb Mount kellly Manjaro,
And of course I said, yes, you had to, you know,
like I first I had said no because it was
too close to the season, middle of September, and Lily
said to me, you know, come on, how many times
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are you're gonna get a chance to go to Africa
and then go to your broke go with your brothers.
So we did a nine day climb of Mount Kilimanjaro,
the tallest mountain long standing mountain in the world and
tallest in Africa, like almost five thousand meters. I am
not a climber. I am. I do some kind of
work when it comes to cardio, but nothing like my brother.
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They both climber. My nephew Benjamin went as well. And
it was like, I like to describe it as not
physically hard, but mentally difficult because I'm not you know me,
I'm not like even on the longest climb of the day,
like the longest climb of the week, which was like
a seven hour climb, we were done at three pm
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and then it's like nothing to do until like seven
six am next day. So I was I'm not really
good at staying steel or quiet, no or sleeping a lot.
So it was like and it's cold and I'm thinking, so.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I was going to ask you, what is what's the
temperature like in the during.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The day varies. It's like the mountain is so high
that it has its own weather system. It doesn't matter
what's going on around it. Right, So when when we
were above the clouds, which was like the last five
of the nine days, we were above the clouds, so
we're very exposed to the sun. So during the morning,
that's why we climb in the morning because it's not
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as hot as during the afternoon. So it's nice and warm.
The first couple of days we're wearing t shirts and shores,
maybe a windbreaker. But once the sun goes below you,
it drops considerably. Like at night, it's like quick stop
in the bathroom and get back into you in til
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you double bag in times you're sleeping bag. So you know,
I don't I never really saw the temperature like, but
it was in tens in the teens, and then so
many night was below zero.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
For sure. See because when I like you showed photos
of you climbing them outain stuff, when you originally told
me I'm picturing you like the driving when.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It wasn't the day after tomorrow the claws well that
way only on some mid night was like that because
we started a climb at midnight okay, and we have,
you know, just a light in your forehead and you're
just looking at the feet in front of you and
you going, and the good thing that is darkest that
you don't see where you're going, because usually during the
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day on the other declines, we'll be climbing and then
we'll get to like a full summit and then you
put your you put your eyesight up and you see
a dude with a bag in the very far distance.
I'm like, wait a minute, we gotta we're climbing up
that way, and they're like, yeah, yeah, that's what that's
that's what we have in lunch. It's like, oh man,
so I just put my head down and just count
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my steps and just keep going until I see like
so but physically what I was fine, although there was
like you know, at night, you don't see it. But
then once it starts getting clear out, you start seeing
people going the wrong way and it's like porters picking
people up that haven't been able to finish, or either
with oxygen a mask or with like in the back
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of the porter or being held from each arm walking
back down. A person died in the day that we
were trying to summit. Really, yeah, what of the altitude,
you know, altitude sickness or I don't know what it
was exactly, but there's so many things that could happen
to you that that you know, I knew I wasn't
gonna quit because I have promised Lily I was going
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to make the phone call to her from the summit,
and I know, so I was never none of us
were close to quitting. I did question myself like what
the hell am I doing here? Like like you know, like, wow,
this is a sport.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Was there ever any Was there ever any moment of danger? Yes,
a days.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Complete days of rock climbing with nothing tied to yourself
and just grabbing yourself and a few fingertips. And the
thing is that that the terrain changes. You start the
first couple of days in the forest, so that's when
we have the most pictures of those days. You go, oh,
look a monkey, I have picture a picture of pictures.
We're walking up and taking pictures, and then once you
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get over the forest, it becomes like desert. And then
there's like a day and a half or two of that.
You don't take a firm step. Everything is over rocks
and dirt and everything. And one thing that people don't
tell you about that always tell people. Nobody talks about
the des sun. And it's a lot harder than going up, Yeah,
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on your body and every step you take your break in.
But again, it was fun. It was the most amazing
thing I ever do you know, I spent time with
my brothers that we haven't had. We haven't spent time
like that since we were back home forty plus years.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And didn't kill each other.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
No, and Benjamin and I came down and you know,
we kind of liked each other. You can go back
to hating each other, but it was wonderful. I recommend it.
I think this is this is the way I put it.
I think anybody can do it. I don't think it's
for everybody. Eight days of sleeping in a tent and
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a sleeping bag in the cold and warm, and then
you lose your appetite with the altitude so you cannot
have to be force fed, and and a lot of
I'm just crazy. I'm used to suffering because I ride
my bicycle, but I suffer at eighty seventy degrees. Yeah,
I never suffer at below zero. When the moment the
brow the sweat pops out of your forehead, it's like
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it freezes and there's an icicle going.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So yeah, but it was a lot of fun. No thanks, nothing.
I mean like I won't even climb the wall of
Dick Sporting Goods. Yeah, I don't think nobody.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I recommend it highly and if anybody wants info, I
did as a farty before that, and it is a
beautiful part of the world. The people were amazing. And
then you you know, you come to the first two
things that you read that I got to realize is
a was so little. It happened to me when I
go to the ocean and you see the vats space
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of water and you're like, oh my god. And then
the other thing is when you see the poverty, universal
poverty in those countries and you think of people here
been upset because there's no whet cream on the on
the half half cappuccino with likeat milk and all that,
it makes you realize like, man, yeah, like, yeah, we
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get something wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Uh so you got back right before me to day
and yeah we brought we got our normal spot. We
brought a bunch of guys over the table to uh
talk with us. So let's run down some of the guys.
Of course we talked to La. I was trying to
think of it. You knew I was thinking of I
don't like you what you call him, mister Matt. He
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came over and he talked a little bit about how
bad it hurt losing in the playoffs. There's a guy
who's been in the playoffs before. He talked about just
how unhappy he was afterward, after the way last season ended.
How did you process it? Did you take some time off?
Did you just get paid?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I don't think I left my I don't think I
left my house for real for about two and a
half unless to get food three weeks, two or three weeks.
Like I didn't want to talk to nobody. I don't
want to see nobody. I damn sure they want to
see my friends because of them are next fan. So
it was like I just was in there, and you know,
it was one of those summers where I won't forget
that feeling, you know what I mean. And I know
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I'm not the one that feels that way, you know.
I think it's something for for the group and for
myself that like, we don't want that to happen again.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Is that the most important part on that that you
have to make sure that not just you, but everybody
uses that as fuel now because you know, it's not
about it's all about getting up, it's not about falling down, right,
it's all about get up. It's important to remember that
how bad you felt, that you don't want to feel
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And I think I think it's the best part is
I didn't have to worry about that because I knew
everybody felt the same way, you know what I mean.
It wasn't like a I gotta talk to I gotta
talk to Jay, I got talked to we like I know,
like you know, I mean, obviously I've talked to those
guys out the summer, but we kind of know, you
know what I mean. I think that's something that you know,
speaks a lot of volume about what the group we
have and what we got going forward. But I think
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for us, you know, you know, that definitely was tough,
especially after the year we had, like you know, to
go from was that last Orlando game down there and
then we played Charlotte here, get the get the win,
and then we're feeling good and game one, you know,
we lose, but we're like all right, and in game
two we play well. Then after that it just kind
of just snowballed after that. I think it's something that
like we was just like even when we were done
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and we were just sitting there at the next day,
just kind of like, what the what just happened?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And so I think for us, it's like, Okay, how
do we we don't want that feeling again. Let's go
out there and you know, find a way to you know,
make sure doesn't happen again.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm little upset you're eating. Ask the pasp about talking
about Missus Matt.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
First, I think he was confused. I was talking about yeah, yeah,
that's true, but Pug, he's a big Mets fan.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
And over the summer, let's invite people to go google
though they showed Missus met met Mister Mett is the
mister Mett is the mascot And one time mister Mett
came into the room of the room.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Of one of our assistant coaches in New York. H
that actually happened, and Missus Matt, who's the mascot.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Wife maybe that was the first time I know of her.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, she's uh attractive, Like I don't know how to
say it. She's eye catching, she's eye catching. Let's say
she's not catching. So you're right. I didn't ask him
about that. But you need to talk about how bad
it hurts and things like that, and that's what you want, really,
you want these guys to be pissed off, you know,
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after last year, if they weren't pissed off, something would
be wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
And I don't think there's any doubt Joe that these
will linger. Yeahs an eighty two game season, maybe eighty four,
eighty three, I think if you make it to the
final of the NBA Cup of the in season tournament.
But I think that's something that this guy have not forgotten.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I agree, and I hope so, I hope not, I
should say.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And then if you think of the pieces added like
Strus and Nyang who have been through that, it's kind
of like what we were also missing off.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
The court big time interesting, I mean as well in
New York.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Like one of the thoughts I had was, like, man,
we miss him, dude to be kicking the cooler in
the in the in the locker room. And it doesn't
mean that this guy didn't care or anything. It's just
that we didn't have that that angle.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Until you know, you don't know and playoff. Guys know
that pain Donovan did a little bit, but for the
most part, these guys just didn't know. So now you
have guys that and most.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Of them, all of them are here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Interesting, you know, we talk to him and we'll hear
from him in a minute. He did talk about how
he's going to remind guys rather the season. Hey, you
remember that feeling. You remember that feeling how you looked
on social media and got embarrassed and things like that.
So it's something I agree with you. They're not going
to forget it. On Thursday night, Thursday Night's game, Dean
Wolf our guy, and we heard that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I was glad the first thriple I didn't pay attention,
and then in the second one, I was like, whatever happened?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And they was like, oh, yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It was like wine and Gold radio.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's exactly that's right. So I was glad that. I
was just glad to see, Like as a person, I
was glad to see Dean do well, you know what
I mean. Tonight because or on Thursday night. Because he's
such a great guy. And last year was tough for him,
you know, right after Kevin h after the Kevin Love situation,
Dean got hurt and it was really terrible timing and
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the season just didn't go well for him towards the
end last year. So we talked to him a little
bit about the shoulder injury that slowed him down last year.
After last year, when the season wrapped up, do you
take a couple of weeks a month or whatever and
decompress and just forget basketball.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Or it's tough.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, especially the way our season did, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
This year.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I took.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It took about a week and a half off, Yeah,
long enough to go to my honeymoon that I got
back working out again. Yeah, And so I didn't take
that much time off, and you know, I was trying
to get my shoulder back healthy.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
How you're feeling, feel good? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Feel good.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It took me a good couple of months to get
my shoulder back to where I was comfortable with it.
So I didn't really have any time that I could
take off, and man, I just had to go back
to the weight room and do everything I could strengthen it.
That was the toughest part of the whole thing. So
I didn't take too much time off. Yeah, I just couldn't.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And that's a tough injury man, especially you know, mid
season trying to come back from me. Yeah, that's just
a tough one.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So it was, uh, yeah, it sucks because when it,
of course you get injured, it happens when you're playing.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Well right right right, So and he never went away
too right, and he kept reaggravating it. And I can't.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I still can't. The mobility and like flexibility on my
shoulder now is so bad. That's like the biggest thing
right now is like I can't get my arm like
like this, I can't do it on my left side.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I get it right here, go back. But at least
the pain is gone.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Pain's gone. Yeah, Just trying to work on my flexibility
and for the most part, most of the strength is
back in it. There's some different exercises where I can't shoot.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Themail will take care of yeah, so the roster and
the DEMI will invent something machine to make it'll work,
like couple do it. And and and I think he's
the one of the guys that j B loves, Yes,
because A He's always going to be ready and B
he's the guy that doesn't matter. Like we talk also
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about how when the new guys are coming and waiting
for the opportunity and he's probably didn't. We talk about
he's one of the longest tenure guys.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Fourth year so, but he's been here.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Through earning it. You know, so much talked about you
earn not giving. I mean, this dude has earned everything
and and I'm glad that he gets another chance to
to stay healthy and and and show what he can
do and bring to the table because he's kind of
like the Swiss army knife for JB when it comes
to like doing stuff that doesn't show in the in
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the in the in the scoring sheet and the people think,
oh my god, what a great game he had, but
didn't didn't has those games when he doesn't know shooting.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And you saw a photo of him this summer with
no well, he played this whole like shaving his beard
and first he went with like a like like a
Fudbent shoe, the fullman shoe, kind.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Of like what those bikes that they used to have
a show where they had the anarchy. Yeah, remember the
show with the father and the son, the Orange County,
the Chopper, the Chopper bikes, remember they he has they
have those big handles the thing. Well he had that,
but like back, like the big handle bar, the handlebars. Yeah,
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and then he cut it like really short. And I
don't know how who would suggest to him to shave
his beardy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I know as part of the prisonell have to be.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Wolfing at the time. Man, there's no way he can
show up. That's kind of like I would like to
see that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I mean, he probably like a little kid.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
He he didn't look like him. He looked like one
of the guys from the Sandlot I grew up.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And speaking of little kids, I already love this guy.
I already love about any Baits. There's something about him
that's just likable. And listening to him talk is funny
because he talks fast and he does the yes sir
and no sirs. But he's such a he's such a
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young he's a good young kid. He just uh and
he's been impressive, and he's been impressive on the floor.
You can tell he's not afraid. He's shy. And also
we talked to him about about the expectations are friendly
off him. Since that kid's been in seventh grade, you know,
all the pressure's been on him. Now the pressure's totally
(25:14):
off of him, so he just seems like he's playing free.
And we talked to him about just being a rookie
and fitting in with this group.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You're a guy and money that. At the moment they
Drew Calves drafted you and said your name, everybody was
excited about it. Everybody. I don't know how you if
you want to talk about a little bit of how
people compare you to this. You're the next day, you're
the next day. How do you manage all that and
still just sit there patiently waiting for that opportunity that
you've been working so hard for?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well me, I'll kind of keep a balance. You know,
you got a call before you walk.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So it's like I got to learn first. Not really.
This year is really for me.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I learned a year, like you know, just being around
these NBA guys, learned how to be a pro learner
from them.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know, they've been here for years.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So for me, I'm just trying to get better and
learn to have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Do you think he'll getting donuts for Tristan Thomson. That's
one thing I told him about. Yes, will he can
count on getting donuts. Yeah, because when the top is back, yeah,
and donuts are back on the on the rookie lies,
Tristan will make sure he does it. There will be
no anywhere. Yeah, especially there wasn't. I always forget the
name in Canada. They have the store right to the
(26:20):
right of the hotel with Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, we go to Canada, it'll be getting donuts.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Like Tim Hortons the moment you get there. On January first,
we play in Toronto. Perfect, You're gonna travel in the
thirty first of December, Okay, so it's good. You know
they're going to start the year with some Tim Horton
donut for the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And he seems like he'll be great with it, you know.
I mean you could tell the guys love him. You know,
they love that he's not afraid. And I mean the
kids got a real skill set of me. It's obviously
needs to put on a few pounds, but he's nineteen
years old. I mean he's uh, imagine that kid at
twenty four. That's right.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's kind of tough when everybody talked about, you know,
Kevin Garnett compared too much and Kevin Turan. It's like,
come on, letdn't be they didn't be a money bait.
And I think he knows that. Yeah, he just needs
to get the opportunity and when he comes, when the
when the door, when when his numbers call, he better
have his gunpowder drive.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He does. I mean, that kid's no shrinking violet man.
I mean. And another, you know, Craig Porter Jr. Is
another rookie. He's got some great him do I like
his I do too, like his breast up kids. Same
speaking of uh a presence and uh we just point
blank asked George Ning if he's a guy who talks
(27:39):
a lot, and he said he is, and he does,
and he does, and he really admitted here's George talking
about his presence is veteran presence on the team. So George,
I'm just gonna be straight up. We've heard that you're
a guy who likes to talk a little.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
True.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
No, I mean that's how I've kind kind of played
my whole life.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
It was more used as like a distraction tactic because
I haven't always been at athletically, you know, sound so
if I can, if I can throw you off your
game a little bit by running my mouth, I can
talk a lot, so I might as well use it
for some good, right.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And like again, this team is kind of a quiet Yeah,
it's a quiet group. So do you think they might
be able to help?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean I think, you know, being an older
guy and kind of seeing what I've seen in the NBA,
obviously you want to have some charisma, uh, some character
and some personality you know in your locker rooms. I
mean you look at this roster and the the horses
that we have in this den. There's obviously some real talent.
And you know, if if I can bring my you know,
leadership or senior leadership. I'm getting older, I know that,
(28:45):
so anyway I can help to be a part of
a winning team, a winning culture. You look at you
know how they've their trajectory has kind of gone up,
you know with the last two years with you know,
the play in and then being a four seed last year.
You know, I think this sky's the limit for this team.
And there's so much talent, and you know, you bring
in gritty guys like you know, Max Streus, uh tied
(29:05):
your own you know, Damian Jones, and then you you know,
you even have the young guys with uh CP and
Moani who you know really can bring it too. So
I'm super excited, you know, to see uh to see
what this year has for us. But obviously, you know,
my personality is something that I show every single day.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So you've heard him go off in practice, right, yes,
and how is it?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
This is? This is what I like about him, and
this is something that I'd relate to myself. He is
good at making fun of himself, so a.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And if you're gonna dog people, you gotta be good
at that. He stuff lies off of him, right, because
he makes fun of him.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
So we talked to him about the minivan thing, and
we had a whole conversation about how I'm gonna get
him my sponsor over it. You're gonna get a minivan, yeah, right.
And and also when things slies off of you, you
can you can say whatever you want because you know
that that's the worst thing. And sometimes I know I
have that I don't care what you say to me.
It's not gonna bother me. It's like it's so in
(30:11):
sports that works to your advantage. And also JB talked
about it on Thursday before the game about how he's
not a goofball that I'm glad he was such a
great comment because he's not a dumb kid or he's
not a Whenever he says something, even though he's spoken
(30:31):
or putting salt in the wound, he's doing it with
a purpose and in a smart way. So he's talking
trash at you, but telling you something. And I think
it takes a little bit to understand that. And I
think j B does get it, and I think the
guys are gonna get it too, because he'll trash talk
in practice, but it's all about getting whoever he's trash
(30:54):
talking to, getting him better for when the when the
game happens.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And I'm glad you brought that about JB. JB used
the word silly, yeah, and silly silly because I think
when people hear he's.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Like, he's not rapa. JB said, he's not silly and
kind of looked at me like that guy, you know,
But I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No, it's true in that you look, We've we've seen
enough practices and stuff. There are guys that are just
silly and stupid and it doesn't it's not constructive in practice,
it's just goofing off and there's a time for that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
But that's not what But it happened on thirty two,
I don't know. I don't know if you saw. There
was a point where he kind of threw it like
a lob to Evan and something happened. But j B
says something to him and immediately he made a gesture
like he didn't see it or he couldn't see it,
and j B understood right away what he was, you
know what I mean. So he's a goofball, but he's
(31:52):
also a dude that is always in his game. He's
not playing that way or he's not, so I think again,
going back to what we need back the fact that
we were like kind of like a bunch of good guys,
quiet joking around, but not really in the in the
poking way right right Like that, I like that different angle.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's funny and that you mentioned that that's how you
are and things like that. That's how I am, not
if I was, if I were in practice, I am
not the type of guy who who you can talk
trash to. Like I think about that. I think, man,
I'm glad, but that that.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But but you know what, in the NBA, you have
to be able to have you practice, to be able
to take that, to take you know, get out of
your gat. I know, I know you know what I do,
and I'm saying most people do that in the NBA
writing sports right right, Like I.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Always said, if I if I were an NBA player,
I would just have direct deposit Adam Silver, I'd be
I'd be throwing punches all over the court. I would be,
I'd limit, I would be the first guy to talk
trash to me. I'd be in a fight with him.
I can't. But you are good about that. You let
love you, let stuff roll right off. You love that
(33:05):
I went not man getting him out of his and
I do that. But by the same token, I also
that you know me, I'm kind of a mellow guy
until I get mad, and then.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, we kind of different because when when we are sober,
I'm the one that won't shut up right and you
won't say a war. And then when we switched ones,
I switch.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm a mean drunk, I know it. And then uh, now,
we did talk to Tristan. We talked about him. First
of all, I'm so glad he's back. Everything just it
just feels better with him being back. And it's not
just a return tour. It's not a pr thing. That
guy is going to make a difference here. He's going
to make a difference. And we asked him about how
(33:49):
it came about with him coming here. How did how
did this happen over the summer?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
You know, me and DJ, butN you know, you know,
DJ's my brother. We've been talking since him being a rookie.
Tell We've always stayed in contact and you know, watched
him in Jenner regular season. I'd call him after a
couple of games and we just like go back and
forth and stuff that I saw and stuff that I
needed out of him. More So, I've always held Hi
accountable and we always had the relationship. So you know,
this summer came around and he's like, we need a
(34:15):
guy like you, you know in the playoffs. That was
something that we were missing. Yeah, so and we got
it done, you know, DG. You know, man, you know,
he did what he had to do.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
He called he called Kobe, and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, there is the recruiter and behind all he's the recruiter.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
It's kind of a scoop.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, he took care of him. Now now he's he's
a man in charge of the franchise and he's he's
the top dog.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
He said, got the keys, You got the keys? Brother back.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
How has he changed since you were here? He was
such a kid.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Yeah, he's such a kid when you know, for him
coming back from meniscus, I believe that was his injury
that he missed some time with his rookie season, So
for him it was tough. But everyone knew the talent
that he had, you know, his shooting ability and the
way that he makes guys better. You know, I definitely
missed and when I left, I was like, I missappoint
guard like that. So he's grown so much and him
being an All Star, you know, the previous season before
(35:08):
last was great, but you know, we don't want you
to just be an All Star one time. We need
to be multiple, multiple year All Star. And then that's
that's the standard that I have for him, and I'm
gonna be I'm gonna be on him and beyond him,
and he knows that. The same way I held guys
like a Love Brown accountable and ad when I was
in LA, I'm gonna hold him to the same standard,
same thing as Donovan. You know, you guys gonna love
me as a teammate, but you guys gonna be times
(35:29):
where I'm I'm gonna get on your ass and I'm
gonna do it sometimes behind closed doors. We I'm gonna
do it in front of our teammates when it's when
it's needed, because at the end of the day, the
ship isn't going only go as far as DJ and Donovan, Takos.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
And I have totally forgotten about his relationship with d
G and me too, Like he was he's rookie, or
he's the one that, like me too, picked up d
G and and and if you asked, like Larry Nance Junior,
who wasn't a rookie when he came here. But he
also said the same thing about t Top, like like
he's the guy that made them feel home and showed
(36:01):
him around and this is the way, this is the way,
the way of the land. So I think he's coming
in with a with a purpose for sure. But more
than anything else, man, I love the fact that he
is one of many people I know that make Cleveland home. Yeah,
after playing here, you know, there's so many people that
I can tell you know, Anderson Barrijao, Jordi Fernandez still
(36:24):
called Cleveland home. There's something about this city and these people,
these fans.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They love you. When I think they feel the love,
I think that's a big thing.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But Tristan, I mean, like Tristan, you've seen it, You've
heard it a million times. These guys have not Tristan.
Tristanal tell him in the locker room after the game
or maybe before that you're soft. You're playing soft, you're
playing weak. You're gonna get your ass kicked. I mean,
he'll he's the type of guy that we didn't have.
You talked about last year in the playoffs that we
(36:53):
didn't have the guy, the guy that really we didn't
have the guy.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
To come in when when when Mitchell Robinson says something
about right about being.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Warriable, exactly, had Mitchell Robinson done that with Tristan and
the team, He'd cut an elbow within the first five
minutes of the game, not in a dirty way, but
just like I'm message right, we're going to show you
that we're not soft. Where the young guys they got
I mean they got pushed around a little bit, and
that happens with young guys and that's okay. But uh, anyway,
(37:22):
so that's our media day wrap up.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
We I mis Jeddie o media day too.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I know Jeddy comes out with his like his disco clothes. Uh,
Jeddy loves media days.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
We actually have talked about making thrist On our insider.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yes, we we gotta, we gotta work on him our
field correspondent. Next week we have two more preseason games
and then that's it, and then the opener in Brooklyn
and then going back home.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, so what's up with us when we come back?
What's the story, what the plan for the caden I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I haven't looked. I haven't looked at our caide. But
we'll be back next week for sure, because now we
are going to be on the cadence for sure, and
we'll bring El Muchacho Dorado for the first time.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I have a question for you. Yes, Saturday is the
the second annual Cavalios Gala. Yes, right, and it's a
black tie event. I have to get my toxedo for Miami.
Is it really a black tie like tuxedo? Yeah, toxedo
black tivan. It's a mask where like the guys have
to work. I don't know. I'm sure that one is
(38:27):
a masquerade event. So my question to you is because
I posted to Lily and she didn't really give me
an answer because they sent a guide.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's gonna be like eyes, white shirt and listen to me.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
They sent a guide of like what to wear, and
it's all like masks, like little masquerade thing. Yeah, but
I totally I want to wear my blue child or mask.
Does that count as a masquerade? Yes? Yeah, yeah. Don't
you think it would look good in the too?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Full blunt.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
You're asking the wrong guy with my blue demon or like,
you're asking the wrong guy because I say that I'm
doing it.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Do it.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I'm doing it, and you know what, you can get
away with it. Not everybody could, but you can't because yes, because.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm not gonna tell listeners, uh what happened, because we'll
save that for another show. But when one day Rapha
called me and said, hey, guess who I just had
lunch with? And I said, for a normal human, I
could kind of kind of narrow it down to your subgroup,
is ever rap? That could be anybody? That could be
(39:40):
mister Mett, It could be Henry Kissinger. It could be.
I mean, you could be mayor bib we with you.
I never know.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I'm actually going to try to get a date with
Missus Matt.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Missus Mett's not even your type. Missus Matt is my type.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's so I can like add it to the list
of like people that I get to meet.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I think you should fix me up.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
So you think I should work that. You think that
you wear the Bludimo.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Mask one hundred percent, you should wear that.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It's a Maskeray, you should do it.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
You can get away with it.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
And he's still he's finding here with touch months on
Saturday the fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I'll be disappointed if you don't do it. I want
you to go there and make a total asidates a
red card. I want to see photos of that Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You know I'm good at making a fool of myself.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Dude, you gotta do it. It's built, it's it's it's
an opportunity. You can't pass out.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
To him for a picture and a nobody taking pictures with.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Me through Hey do you just don't want to lose
the horn? With the horns? All right, we're getting silly.
Now it's time to wrap this thing up. We will
be back next week. Now we're on a cadence drop,
so there is nothing that can stop us. Let's say
a couple quick thank yous and get the hell out
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of here. The PR Department bj Evans, who runs the
department still once again this year, the iron Fish baby Wookie.
I don't know if they have a rookie.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He's no longer a rookie.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I think it lives. Make Devin Booker sophomore the year
because I like giving her, like giving her trophies. She's awesome.
We have to thank Cheron Owens, who's the straw testers
the drink of course, slinging Sammy, who I don't know
what year that kids, he's like right, he's like in
the transfer portal. And then the great Devin Booker sophomore
(41:32):
saw the real Devin Booker Sophomore of the Year. We
have to thank your boss, Ryan Boubanks, who runs your department.
Yea with the iron Fish.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Uh uh.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
We we have to thank are the great Joe Richard,
of course, who is also my boss. He is also
your boss. He is a good cop, bad cop. Iron
fizz would Okay, here's a guy who never has the
iron Fizz D Back.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
D bas A Cookie Fizz.
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Of course, the dynamic duo of Dirty Kurt and Marty
Allen Guy, the Beday Guy. We will see you next
week because now we are on a cadence and as always,
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And now is the word yes, cadence And now we're
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We're checking in after the Calves dropped their second straight
preseason loss, but JB said before the game he doesn't
care so much about wins and losses. It's more about
how the team looks.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It makes so much sense though, you know, there's different things.
Guys are still working, especially you know, we were coming
back from from from the playoffects it last year and
everything that has been talked about and everything that have
been like you know, like my grandma used to say,
like putting your scream in the sky. She will say that,
you know, like and and we have big pieces that
(03:02):
have been added to this formula. And again the trust
is in the coaching staff that's going to be able
to make them blend. I'm sure they went out and
got those pieces because they thought it was it was doable,
you know, Max Strus and you're just niang. The whole
thing about shooting being needed, the whole thing about opening
up the lanes and everything. So that's what the preseason
(03:23):
is about for us. You know, like like Carrie said
in Atlanta, it's like after two three weeks and maybe
the whole summer of facing each other, you finally get
to pounds on somebody, you know, the colored uniform and
other teams. So it's not about the wins and losses.
For sure. In the preseason, I don't care why anybody
says you don't care about winning or losing, But it's
(03:43):
more about, like you can tell JB. Still looking for
like combinations and guys that fit, and guys that you know,
not only combinations of lineups, but also combinations of two
three players that can actually blend in. So at the
end of the day, the fun parties at the end
of the games when you see these guys that yes,
you might think it's garbage time. Yeah yeah, but for
(04:05):
those guys, I'm looking to fill the eyes of the
coaches to get even told me the getting a job
in the g D.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I like what I've seen of Craig Porter Junior.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I love that kid.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
His skill set is really good. I mean, obviously, you
know you want to start picking like, Okay, his height,
but I love the way he plays.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Man. His height hasn't stopped him yet, no, but I.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Like the way he played. I loved him in college
when he was wichital State, but I like the way
his skill set is translating into the NBA too.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He's an aggressive kid. I'm kind of around the practice.
I'm kind of call him Deli two point zero. Yeah,
because he's he's tough, he's competitive, a little more offensive skill,
Yeah for sure. For sure, he's probably a better ballplayer
than But I'm just saying he's he's got that X
factor to him, you know that, you know, I mean,
he could he could open a lot of eyes this year.
(04:56):
We'll talk about him. But what we're gonna do today
is we did media day. So that was over a
week ago now, so we're going to talk about some
of the guys we talked to, and uh, what.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Season is this for you?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
For me, I think this is my I think this
is my twenty first.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Do you invent that NBA dot com?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I definitely invented an NBA dot com, but not the
internet that was for Cavs. For Calves, I think this
is my twenty first season.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
This is my tenth season.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Really, I know it is your tens. I read it
in the press release. Yeah, so I'm gonna say I
didn't do squat this summer just to catch people up
with our our comings and goings. I didn't do nothing.
I sat around, I worked on my house things like that,
worked on the alabow and play with the animals, stuff
(05:45):
like that. But you you had a literally a world adventure. Well,
I had a.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Really good summer without planning it. Yes, I had thought
about it, and you and I have this caught about
how my wife they served some time off and some
something coming from me like a gift. So it started
with a wedding in New York, my nephew got married.
And then at the moment it felt like the worst
thing that could have happened to me that United S
(06:14):
randed us for like ten days in New York City
with no bags, with nothing, nothing to worry about whether
we were paying hotels or not. So you know, we
got stuck in New York City in Wall Street downtown,
you know, with my parents who had just turned ninety
five and eighty five and got COVID the first night.
(06:35):
We got stranded at the airport. So here I am
heading on to New York. Luckily I didn't get anything.
My wife did. Lily did get towards towards the end.
So my father isn't wonder was but it was kind
of mild. But we were there for like six seven days, right,
and we definitely. We took the make Let's make lemonade thing,
(06:55):
So we went with like Lily and I always wanted
to go to the nine to eleven Museum we were
founding members and and then but I had never gone
in all my time that I've been to New York
because I wanted to go with her. So we took
a trip, but we had no clothes. We went shopping,
I mean it was like a wild thing, and we
just New York naked. Yeah, basically, yeah, we were like
the guy in bore in in in Times Square. I
(07:17):
just needed the diaper and the guitar. So then we
went to California right and and stayed a month there,
and then while there, decided to take Lily for a
day trip to Josephine and we went to the Sequoia
Park beautiful, like amazing. Lily loves taking pictures, and so
(07:41):
the whole summer was about me pleasing giving something back
to everything my wife does too in the season and
everything she puts up with. For sure, while we were there,
Roberto Robert there is, who worked for for the not
for the who covers the cabs in Spain, kind of
offered for us to go visit him and and stay
with him, which made it a lot more affordable. And
(08:03):
you know, in the summer in Europe, you know, four
hundred and fifty five hundred dollars a night and I
couldn't do it. So we stayed three weeks in Spain. Wow.
We also took day trips and drove to Andorra for
one day, drove to drove to France to go to
Ladio Lurdas Lily and I always wanted to go before
we even met each other. We wanted to do that.
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So we went to Louriers. I rode my bike and
I tore my leg one of the most iconic to
the France hills, you know. And I noticed why I'm
not on TV because like twenty minutes into my ride,
I was dying and it was still like three four
hours to go. Yeah, you're not land. I'm strong yet
so now not at all, not even if I did
all that stuff. So I had a great three weeks
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in Spain. And while I was there, my brother Carlos,
my oldest brother, who just retired, had a spot opened
because he had planned to go climb Mount kellly Manjaro,
And of course I said, yes, you had to, you know,
like I first I had said no because it was
too close to the season, middle of September, and Lily
said to me, you know, come on, how many times
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are you're gonna get a chance to go to Africa
and then go to your broke go with your brothers.
So we did a nine day climb of Mount Kilimanjaro,
the tallest mountain long standing mountain in the world and
tallest in Africa, like almost five thousand meters. I am
not a climber. I am. I do some kind of
work when it comes to cardio, but nothing like my brother.
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They both climber. My nephew Benjamin went as well. And
it was like, I like to describe it as not
physically hard, but mentally difficult because I'm not you know me,
I'm not like even on the longest climb of the day,
like the longest climb of the week, which was like
a seven hour climb, we were done at three pm
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and then it's like nothing to do until like seven
six am next day. So I was I'm not really
good at staying steel or quiet, no or sleeping a lot.
So it was like and it's cold and I'm thinking, so.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I was going to ask you, what is what's the
temperature like in the during.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The day varies. It's like the mountain is so high
that it has its own weather system. It doesn't matter
what's going on around it. Right, So when when we
were above the clouds, which was like the last five
of the nine days, we were above the clouds, so
we're very exposed to the sun. So during the morning,
that's why we climb in the morning because it's not
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as hot as during the afternoon. So it's nice and warm.
The first couple of days we're wearing t shirts and shores,
maybe a windbreaker. But once the sun goes below you,
it drops considerably. Like at night, it's like quick stop
in the bathroom and get back into you in til
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you double bag in times you're sleeping bag. So you know,
I don't I never really saw the temperature like, but
it was in tens in the teens, and then so
many night was below zero.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
For sure. See because when I like you showed photos
of you climbing them outain stuff, when you originally told
me I'm picturing you like the driving when.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It wasn't the day after tomorrow the claws well that
way only on some mid night was like that because
we started a climb at midnight okay, and we have,
you know, just a light in your forehead and you're
just looking at the feet in front of you and
you going, and the good thing that is darkest that
you don't see where you're going, because usually during the
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day on the other declines, we'll be climbing and then
we'll get to like a full summit and then you
put your you put your eyesight up and you see
a dude with a bag in the very far distance.
I'm like, wait a minute, we gotta we're climbing up
that way, and they're like, yeah, yeah, that's what that's
that's what we have in lunch. It's like, oh man,
so I just put my head down and just count
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my steps and just keep going until I see like
so but physically what I was fine, although there was
like you know, at night, you don't see it. But
then once it starts getting clear out, you start seeing
people going the wrong way and it's like porters picking
people up that haven't been able to finish, or either
with oxygen a mask or with like in the back
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of the porter or being held from each arm walking
back down. A person died in the day that we
were trying to summit. Really, yeah, what of the altitude,
you know, altitude sickness or I don't know what it
was exactly, but there's so many things that could happen
to you that that you know, I knew I wasn't
gonna quit because I have promised Lily I was going
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to make the phone call to her from the summit,
and I know, so I was never none of us
were close to quitting. I did question myself like what
the hell am I doing here? Like like you know, like, wow,
this is a sport.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Was there ever any Was there ever any moment of danger? Yes,
a days.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Complete days of rock climbing with nothing tied to yourself
and just grabbing yourself and a few fingertips. And the
thing is that that the terrain changes. You start the
first couple of days in the forest, so that's when
we have the most pictures of those days. You go, oh,
look a monkey, I have picture a picture of pictures.
We're walking up and taking pictures, and then once you
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get over the forest, it becomes like desert. And then
there's like a day and a half or two of that.
You don't take a firm step. Everything is over rocks
and dirt and everything. And one thing that people don't
tell you about that always tell people. Nobody talks about
the des sun. And it's a lot harder than going up, Yeah,
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on your body and every step you take your break in.
But again, it was fun. It was the most amazing
thing I ever do you know, I spent time with
my brothers that we haven't had. We haven't spent time
like that since we were back home forty plus years.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And didn't kill each other.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
No, and Benjamin and I came down and you know,
we kind of liked each other. You can go back
to hating each other, but it was wonderful. I recommend it.
I think this is this is the way I put it.
I think anybody can do it. I don't think it's
for everybody. Eight days of sleeping in a tent and
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a sleeping bag in the cold and warm, and then
you lose your appetite with the altitude so you cannot
have to be force fed, and and a lot of
I'm just crazy. I'm used to suffering because I ride
my bicycle, but I suffer at eighty seventy degrees. Yeah,
I never suffer at below zero. When the moment the
brow the sweat pops out of your forehead, it's like
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it freezes and there's an icicle going.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So yeah, but it was a lot of fun. No thanks, nothing.
I mean like I won't even climb the wall of
Dick Sporting Goods. Yeah, I don't think nobody.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I recommend it highly and if anybody wants info, I
did as a farty before that, and it is a
beautiful part of the world. The people were amazing. And
then you you know, you come to the first two
things that you read that I got to realize is
a was so little. It happened to me when I
go to the ocean and you see the vats space
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of water and you're like, oh my god. And then
the other thing is when you see the poverty, universal
poverty in those countries and you think of people here
been upset because there's no whet cream on the on
the half half cappuccino with likeat milk and all that,
it makes you realize like, man, yeah, like, yeah, we
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get something wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Uh so you got back right before me to day
and yeah we brought we got our normal spot. We
brought a bunch of guys over the table to uh
talk with us. So let's run down some of the guys.
Of course we talked to La. I was trying to
think of it. You knew I was thinking of I
don't like you what you call him, mister Matt. He
(15:58):
came over and he talked a little bit about how
bad it hurt losing in the playoffs. There's a guy
who's been in the playoffs before. He talked about just
how unhappy he was afterward, after the way last season ended.
How did you process it? Did you take some time off?
Did you just get paid?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I don't think I left my I don't think I
left my house for real for about two and a
half unless to get food three weeks, two or three weeks.
Like I didn't want to talk to nobody. I don't
want to see nobody. I damn sure they want to
see my friends because of them are next fan. So
it was like I just was in there, and you know,
it was one of those summers where I won't forget
that feeling, you know what I mean. And I know
(16:34):
I'm not the one that feels that way, you know.
I think it's something for for the group and for
myself that like, we don't want that to happen again.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Is that the most important part on that that you
have to make sure that not just you, but everybody
uses that as fuel now because you know, it's not
about it's all about getting up, it's not about falling down, right,
it's all about get up. It's important to remember that
how bad you felt, that you don't want to feel
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And I think I think it's the best part is
I didn't have to worry about that because I knew
everybody felt the same way, you know what I mean.
It wasn't like a I gotta talk to I gotta
talk to Jay, I got talked to we like I know,
like you know, I mean, obviously I've talked to those
guys out the summer, but we kind of know, you
know what I mean. I think that's something that you know,
speaks a lot of volume about what the group we
have and what we got going forward. But I think
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for us, you know, you know, that definitely was tough,
especially after the year we had, like you know, to
go from was that last Orlando game down there and
then we played Charlotte here, get the get the win,
and then we're feeling good and game one, you know,
we lose, but we're like all right, and in game
two we play well. Then after that it just kind
of just snowballed after that. I think it's something that
like we was just like even when we were done
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and we were just sitting there at the next day,
just kind of like, what the what just happened?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And so I think for us, it's like, Okay, how
do we we don't want that feeling again. Let's go
out there and you know, find a way to you know,
make sure doesn't happen again.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm little upset you're eating. Ask the pasp about talking
about Missus Matt.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
First, I think he was confused. I was talking about yeah, yeah,
that's true, but Pug, he's a big Mets fan.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
And over the summer, let's invite people to go google
though they showed Missus met met Mister Mett is the
mister Mett is the mascot And one time mister Mett
came into the room of the room.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Of one of our assistant coaches in New York. H
that actually happened, and Missus Matt, who's the mascot.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Wife maybe that was the first time I know of her.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, she's uh attractive, Like I don't know how to
say it. She's eye catching, she's eye catching. Let's say
she's not catching. So you're right. I didn't ask him
about that. But you need to talk about how bad
it hurts and things like that, and that's what you want, really,
you want these guys to be pissed off, you know,
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after last year, if they weren't pissed off, something would
be wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
And I don't think there's any doubt Joe that these
will linger. Yeahs an eighty two game season, maybe eighty four,
eighty three, I think if you make it to the
final of the NBA Cup of the in season tournament.
But I think that's something that this guy have not forgotten.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I agree, and I hope so, I hope not, I
should say.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And then if you think of the pieces added like
Strus and Nyang who have been through that, it's kind
of like what we were also missing off.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
The court big time interesting, I mean as well in
New York.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Like one of the thoughts I had was, like, man,
we miss him, dude to be kicking the cooler in
the in the in the locker room. And it doesn't
mean that this guy didn't care or anything. It's just
that we didn't have that that angle.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Until you know, you don't know and playoff. Guys know
that pain Donovan did a little bit, but for the
most part, these guys just didn't know. So now you
have guys that and most.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Of them, all of them are here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Interesting, you know, we talk to him and we'll hear
from him in a minute. He did talk about how
he's going to remind guys rather the season. Hey, you
remember that feeling. You remember that feeling how you looked
on social media and got embarrassed and things like that.
So it's something I agree with you. They're not going
to forget it. On Thursday night, Thursday Night's game, Dean
Wolf our guy, and we heard that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I was glad the first thriple I didn't pay attention,
and then in the second one, I was like, whatever happened?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And they was like, oh, yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It was like wine and Gold radio.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's exactly that's right. So I was glad that. I
was just glad to see, Like as a person, I
was glad to see Dean do well, you know what
I mean. Tonight because or on Thursday night. Because he's
such a great guy. And last year was tough for him,
you know, right after Kevin h after the Kevin Love situation,
Dean got hurt and it was really terrible timing and
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the season just didn't go well for him towards the
end last year. So we talked to him a little
bit about the shoulder injury that slowed him down last year.
After last year, when the season wrapped up, do you
take a couple of weeks a month or whatever and
decompress and just forget basketball.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Or it's tough.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, especially the way our season did, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
This year.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I took.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It took about a week and a half off, Yeah,
long enough to go to my honeymoon that I got
back working out again. Yeah, And so I didn't take
that much time off, and you know, I was trying
to get my shoulder back healthy.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
How you're feeling, feel good? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Feel good.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It took me a good couple of months to get
my shoulder back to where I was comfortable with it.
So I didn't really have any time that I could
take off, and man, I just had to go back
to the weight room and do everything I could strengthen it.
That was the toughest part of the whole thing. So
I didn't take too much time off. Yeah, I just couldn't.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And that's a tough injury man, especially you know, mid
season trying to come back from me. Yeah, that's just
a tough one.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So it was, uh, yeah, it sucks because when it,
of course you get injured, it happens when you're playing.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Well right right right, So and he never went away
too right, and he kept reaggravating it. And I can't.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I still can't. The mobility and like flexibility on my
shoulder now is so bad. That's like the biggest thing
right now is like I can't get my arm like
like this, I can't do it on my left side.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I get it right here, go back. But at least
the pain is gone.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Pain's gone. Yeah, Just trying to work on my flexibility
and for the most part, most of the strength is
back in it. There's some different exercises where I can't shoot.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Themail will take care of yeah, so the roster and
the DEMI will invent something machine to make it'll work,
like couple do it. And and and I think he's
the one of the guys that j B loves, Yes,
because A He's always going to be ready and B
he's the guy that doesn't matter. Like we talk also
(22:47):
about how when the new guys are coming and waiting
for the opportunity and he's probably didn't. We talk about
he's one of the longest tenure guys.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Fourth year so, but he's been here.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Through earning it. You know, so much talked about you
earn not giving. I mean, this dude has earned everything
and and I'm glad that he gets another chance to
to stay healthy and and and show what he can
do and bring to the table because he's kind of
like the Swiss army knife for JB when it comes
to like doing stuff that doesn't show in the in
(23:23):
the in the in the scoring sheet and the people think,
oh my god, what a great game he had, but
didn't didn't has those games when he doesn't know shooting.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And you saw a photo of him this summer with
no well, he played this whole like shaving his beard
and first he went with like a like like a
Fudbent shoe, the fullman shoe, kind.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Of like what those bikes that they used to have
a show where they had the anarchy. Yeah, remember the
show with the father and the son, the Orange County,
the Chopper, the Chopper bikes, remember they he has they
have those big handles the thing. Well he had that,
but like back, like the big handle bar, the handlebars. Yeah,
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and then he cut it like really short. And I
don't know how who would suggest to him to shave
his beardy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I know as part of the prisonell have to be.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Wolfing at the time. Man, there's no way he can
show up. That's kind of like I would like to
see that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I mean, he probably like a little kid.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
He he didn't look like him. He looked like one
of the guys from the Sandlot I grew up.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And speaking of little kids, I already love this guy.
I already love about any Baits. There's something about him
that's just likable. And listening to him talk is funny
because he talks fast and he does the yes sir
and no sirs. But he's such a he's such a
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young he's a good young kid. He just uh and
he's been impressive, and he's been impressive on the floor.
You can tell he's not afraid. He's shy. And also
we talked to him about about the expectations are friendly
off him. Since that kid's been in seventh grade, you know,
all the pressure's been on him. Now the pressure's totally
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off of him, so he just seems like he's playing free.
And we talked to him about just being a rookie
and fitting in with this group.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You're a guy and money that. At the moment they
Drew Calves drafted you and said your name, everybody was
excited about it. Everybody. I don't know how you if
you want to talk about a little bit of how
people compare you to this. You're the next day, you're
the next day. How do you manage all that and
still just sit there patiently waiting for that opportunity that
you've been working so hard for?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well me, I'll kind of keep a balance. You know,
you got a call before you walk.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So it's like I got to learn first. Not really.
This year is really for me.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I learned a year, like you know, just being around
these NBA guys, learned how to be a pro learner
from them.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know, they've been here for years.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So for me, I'm just trying to get better and
learn to have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Do you think he'll getting donuts for Tristan Thomson. That's
one thing I told him about. Yes, will he can
count on getting donuts. Yeah, because when the top is back, yeah,
and donuts are back on the on the rookie lies,
Tristan will make sure he does it. There will be
no anywhere. Yeah, especially there wasn't. I always forget the
name in Canada. They have the store right to the
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right of the hotel with Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, we go to Canada, it'll be getting donuts.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Like Tim Hortons the moment you get there. On January first,
we play in Toronto. Perfect, You're gonna travel in the
thirty first of December, Okay, so it's good. You know
they're going to start the year with some Tim Horton
donut for the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And he seems like he'll be great with it, you know.
I mean you could tell the guys love him. You know,
they love that he's not afraid. And I mean the
kids got a real skill set of me. It's obviously
needs to put on a few pounds, but he's nineteen
years old. I mean he's uh, imagine that kid at
twenty four. That's right.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's kind of tough when everybody talked about, you know,
Kevin Garnett compared too much and Kevin Turan. It's like,
come on, letdn't be they didn't be a money bait.
And I think he knows that. Yeah, he just needs
to get the opportunity and when he comes, when the
when the door, when when his numbers call, he better
have his gunpowder drive.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He does. I mean, that kid's no shrinking violet man.
I mean. And another, you know, Craig Porter Jr. Is
another rookie. He's got some great him do I like
his I do too, like his breast up kids. Same
speaking of uh a presence and uh we just point
blank asked George Ning if he's a guy who talks
(27:39):
a lot, and he said he is, and he does,
and he does, and he really admitted here's George talking
about his presence is veteran presence on the team. So George,
I'm just gonna be straight up. We've heard that you're
a guy who likes to talk a little.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
True.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
No, I mean that's how I've kind kind of played
my whole life.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
It was more used as like a distraction tactic because
I haven't always been at athletically, you know, sound so
if I can, if I can throw you off your
game a little bit by running my mouth, I can
talk a lot, so I might as well use it
for some good, right.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And like again, this team is kind of a quiet Yeah,
it's a quiet group. So do you think they might
be able to help?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean I think, you know, being an older
guy and kind of seeing what I've seen in the NBA,
obviously you want to have some charisma, uh, some character
and some personality you know in your locker rooms. I
mean you look at this roster and the the horses
that we have in this den. There's obviously some real talent.
And you know, if if I can bring my you know,
leadership or senior leadership. I'm getting older, I know that,
(28:45):
so anyway I can help to be a part of
a winning team, a winning culture. You look at you
know how they've their trajectory has kind of gone up,
you know with the last two years with you know,
the play in and then being a four seed last year.
You know, I think this sky's the limit for this team.
And there's so much talent, and you know, you bring
in gritty guys like you know, Max Streus, uh tied
(29:05):
your own you know, Damian Jones, and then you you know,
you even have the young guys with uh CP and
Moani who you know really can bring it too. So
I'm super excited, you know, to see uh to see
what this year has for us. But obviously, you know,
my personality is something that I show every single day.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So you've heard him go off in practice, right, yes,
and how is it?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
This is? This is what I like about him, and
this is something that I'd relate to myself. He is
good at making fun of himself, so a.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And if you're gonna dog people, you gotta be good
at that. He stuff lies off of him, right, because
he makes fun of him.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
So we talked to him about the minivan thing, and
we had a whole conversation about how I'm gonna get
him my sponsor over it. You're gonna get a minivan, yeah, right.
And and also when things slies off of you, you
can you can say whatever you want because you know
that that's the worst thing. And sometimes I know I
have that I don't care what you say to me.
It's not gonna bother me. It's like it's so in
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sports that works to your advantage. And also JB talked
about it on Thursday before the game about how he's
not a goofball that I'm glad he was such a
great comment because he's not a dumb kid or he's
not a Whenever he says something, even though he's spoken
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or putting salt in the wound, he's doing it with
a purpose and in a smart way. So he's talking
trash at you, but telling you something. And I think
it takes a little bit to understand that. And I
think j B does get it, and I think the
guys are gonna get it too, because he'll trash talk
in practice, but it's all about getting whoever he's trash
(30:54):
talking to, getting him better for when the when the
game happens.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And I'm glad you brought that about JB. JB used
the word silly, yeah, and silly silly because I think
when people hear he's.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Like, he's not rapa. JB said, he's not silly and
kind of looked at me like that guy, you know,
But I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No, it's true in that you look, We've we've seen
enough practices and stuff. There are guys that are just
silly and stupid and it doesn't it's not constructive in practice,
it's just goofing off and there's a time for that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
But that's not what But it happened on thirty two,
I don't know. I don't know if you saw. There
was a point where he kind of threw it like
a lob to Evan and something happened. But j B
says something to him and immediately he made a gesture
like he didn't see it or he couldn't see it,
and j B understood right away what he was, you
know what I mean. So he's a goofball, but he's
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also a dude that is always in his game. He's
not playing that way or he's not, so I think again,
going back to what we need back the fact that
we were like kind of like a bunch of good guys,
quiet joking around, but not really in the in the
poking way right right Like that, I like that different angle.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's funny and that you mentioned that that's how you
are and things like that. That's how I am, not
if I was, if I were in practice, I am
not the type of guy who who you can talk
trash to. Like I think about that. I think, man,
I'm glad, but that that.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But but you know what, in the NBA, you have
to be able to have you practice, to be able
to take that, to take you know, get out of
your gat. I know, I know you know what I do,
and I'm saying most people do that in the NBA
writing sports right right, Like I.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Always said, if I if I were an NBA player,
I would just have direct deposit Adam Silver, I'd be
I'd be throwing punches all over the court. I would be,
I'd limit, I would be the first guy to talk
trash to me. I'd be in a fight with him.
I can't. But you are good about that. You let
love you, let stuff roll right off. You love that
(33:05):
I went not man getting him out of his and
I do that. But by the same token, I also
that you know me, I'm kind of a mellow guy
until I get mad, and then.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, we kind of different because when when we are sober,
I'm the one that won't shut up right and you
won't say a war. And then when we switched ones,
I switch.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm a mean drunk, I know it. And then uh, now,
we did talk to Tristan. We talked about him. First
of all, I'm so glad he's back. Everything just it
just feels better with him being back. And it's not
just a return tour. It's not a pr thing. That
guy is going to make a difference here. He's going
to make a difference. And we asked him about how
(33:49):
it came about with him coming here. How did how
did this happen over the summer?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
You know, me and DJ, butN you know, you know,
DJ's my brother. We've been talking since him being a rookie.
Tell We've always stayed in contact and you know, watched
him in Jenner regular season. I'd call him after a
couple of games and we just like go back and
forth and stuff that I saw and stuff that I
needed out of him. More So, I've always held Hi
accountable and we always had the relationship. So you know,
this summer came around and he's like, we need a
(34:15):
guy like you, you know in the playoffs. That was
something that we were missing. Yeah, so and we got
it done, you know, DG. You know, man, you know,
he did what he had to do.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
He called he called Kobe, and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, there is the recruiter and behind all he's the recruiter.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
It's kind of a scoop.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, he took care of him. Now now he's he's
a man in charge of the franchise and he's he's
the top dog.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
He said, got the keys, You got the keys? Brother back.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
How has he changed since you were here? He was
such a kid.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Yeah, he's such a kid when you know, for him
coming back from meniscus, I believe that was his injury
that he missed some time with his rookie season, So
for him it was tough. But everyone knew the talent
that he had, you know, his shooting ability and the
way that he makes guys better. You know, I definitely
missed and when I left, I was like, I missappoint
guard like that. So he's grown so much and him
being an All Star, you know, the previous season before
(35:08):
last was great, but you know, we don't want you
to just be an All Star one time. We need
to be multiple, multiple year All Star. And then that's
that's the standard that I have for him, and I'm
gonna be I'm gonna be on him and beyond him,
and he knows that. The same way I held guys
like a Love Brown accountable and ad when I was
in LA, I'm gonna hold him to the same standard,
same thing as Donovan. You know, you guys gonna love
me as a teammate, but you guys gonna be times
(35:29):
where I'm I'm gonna get on your ass and I'm
gonna do it sometimes behind closed doors. We I'm gonna
do it in front of our teammates when it's when
it's needed, because at the end of the day, the
ship isn't going only go as far as DJ and Donovan, Takos.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
And I have totally forgotten about his relationship with d
G and me too, Like he was he's rookie, or
he's the one that, like me too, picked up d
G and and and if you asked, like Larry Nance Junior,
who wasn't a rookie when he came here. But he
also said the same thing about t Top, like like
he's the guy that made them feel home and showed
(36:01):
him around and this is the way, this is the way,
the way of the land. So I think he's coming
in with a with a purpose for sure. But more
than anything else, man, I love the fact that he
is one of many people I know that make Cleveland home. Yeah,
after playing here, you know, there's so many people that
I can tell you know, Anderson Barrijao, Jordi Fernandez still
(36:24):
called Cleveland home. There's something about this city and these people,
these fans.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They love you. When I think they feel the love,
I think that's a big thing.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But Tristan, I mean, like Tristan, you've seen it, You've
heard it a million times. These guys have not Tristan.
Tristanal tell him in the locker room after the game
or maybe before that you're soft. You're playing soft, you're
playing weak. You're gonna get your ass kicked. I mean,
he'll he's the type of guy that we didn't have.
You talked about last year in the playoffs that we
(36:53):
didn't have the guy, the guy that really we didn't
have the guy.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
To come in when when when Mitchell Robinson says something
about right about being.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Warriable, exactly, had Mitchell Robinson done that with Tristan and
the team, He'd cut an elbow within the first five
minutes of the game, not in a dirty way, but
just like I'm message right, we're going to show you
that we're not soft. Where the young guys they got
I mean they got pushed around a little bit, and
that happens with young guys and that's okay. But uh, anyway,
(37:22):
so that's our media day wrap up.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
We I mis Jeddie o media day too.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I know Jeddy comes out with his like his disco clothes. Uh,
Jeddy loves media days.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
We actually have talked about making thrist On our insider.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yes, we we gotta, we gotta work on him our
field correspondent. Next week we have two more preseason games
and then that's it, and then the opener in Brooklyn
and then going back home.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, so what's up with us when we come back?
What's the story, what the plan for the caden I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I haven't looked. I haven't looked at our caide. But
we'll be back next week for sure, because now we
are going to be on the cadence for sure, and
we'll bring El Muchacho Dorado for the first time.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I have a question for you. Yes, Saturday is the
the second annual Cavalios Gala. Yes, right, and it's a
black tie event. I have to get my toxedo for Miami.
Is it really a black tie like tuxedo? Yeah, toxedo
black tivan. It's a mask where like the guys have
to work. I don't know. I'm sure that one is
(38:27):
a masquerade event. So my question to you is because
I posted to Lily and she didn't really give me
an answer because they sent a guide.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's gonna be like eyes, white shirt and listen to me.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
They sent a guide of like what to wear, and
it's all like masks, like little masquerade thing. Yeah, but
I totally I want to wear my blue child or mask.
Does that count as a masquerade? Yes? Yeah, yeah. Don't
you think it would look good in the too?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Full blunt.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
You're asking the wrong guy with my blue demon or like,
you're asking the wrong guy because I say that I'm
doing it.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Do it.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I'm doing it, and you know what, you can get
away with it. Not everybody could, but you can't because yes, because.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm not gonna tell listeners, uh what happened, because we'll
save that for another show. But when one day Rapha
called me and said, hey, guess who I just had
lunch with? And I said, for a normal human, I
could kind of kind of narrow it down to your subgroup,
is ever rap? That could be anybody? That could be
(39:40):
mister Mett, It could be Henry Kissinger. It could be.
I mean, you could be mayor bib we with you.
I never know.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I'm actually going to try to get a date with
Missus Matt.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Missus Mett's not even your type. Missus Matt is my type.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's so I can like add it to the list
of like people that I get to meet.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I think you should fix me up.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
So you think I should work that. You think that
you wear the Bludimo.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Mask one hundred percent, you should wear that.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It's a Maskeray, you should do it.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
You can get away with it.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
And he's still he's finding here with touch months on
Saturday the fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I'll be disappointed if you don't do it. I want
you to go there and make a total asidates a
red card. I want to see photos of that Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You know I'm good at making a fool of myself.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Dude, you gotta do it. It's built, it's it's it's
an opportunity. You can't pass out.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
To him for a picture and a nobody taking pictures with.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Me through Hey do you just don't want to lose
the horn? With the horns? All right, we're getting silly.
Now it's time to wrap this thing up. We will
be back next week. Now we're on a cadence drop,
so there is nothing that can stop us. Let's say
a couple quick thank yous and get the hell out
(40:55):
of here. The PR Department bj Evans, who runs the
department still once again this year, the iron Fish baby Wookie.
I don't know if they have a rookie.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He's no longer a rookie.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I think it lives. Make Devin Booker sophomore the year
because I like giving her, like giving her trophies. She's awesome.
We have to thank Cheron Owens, who's the straw testers
the drink of course, slinging Sammy, who I don't know
what year that kids, he's like right, he's like in
the transfer portal. And then the great Devin Booker sophomore
(41:32):
saw the real Devin Booker Sophomore of the Year. We
have to thank your boss, Ryan Boubanks, who runs your department.
Yea with the iron Fish.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Uh uh.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
We we have to thank are the great Joe Richard,
of course, who is also my boss. He is also
your boss. He is a good cop, bad cop. Iron
fizz would Okay, here's a guy who never has the
iron Fizz D Back.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
D bas A Cookie Fizz.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Of course, the dynamic duo of Dirty Kurt and Marty
Allen Guy, the Beday Guy. We will see you next
week because now we are on a cadence and as always,
good night, Grady back wherever you are, I cat taking anymore.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
You're listening to Wine and Gold Radio five tap top
the bingo then I'm rhy.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
My God, No we don't come.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
America.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I'm a man
Speaker 3 (42:54):
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