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Rafa and Joe G welcome the newest Cavalier to the show, as Danny Green joins the guys to talk All-Star Weekend, his new squad's Championship potential and how many times he's been cussed out by Gregg Popovich.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Mmm, so they're talking about the too. I got driveler burn,
I handed Garling Garling all the way broadcasting live from

(00:34):
Rocket Mortgage Field nows on the sunny shores of beautiful
Lake Erie. And it wasn't look at me now Morveley.
Marveley said, I started in throw your live in downtown Cleveland,
cland Hello, you've tuned into Wine and Gold Radio. Now

(01:00):
you're your host and Joe Gi Yeah, hey everybody, and
welcome to episode something of Wine and Gold Radio this

(01:22):
season of Cadence. We are rolling, dude. Yeah, it's been great.
I am Joe g To my right is Raphael Ernandez. Boah.
And you know, before we even get going to anything,
I gotta say, because you heard in the intro I
love Evil Mobilia. I do. I think it's a badass nickname.
T shirt mate. We're in the city, in the capital

(01:43):
of T shirts. And the thing is, if you asked Evan, hey, Evan,
what do you think of this nickname? You know, we'd say, well,
we asked him before, and and and the backstory on
this is I believe he's a multiple personality and I
love this player on the on the court. Yes, he's
evil Mable. When the ball and just chanted with with
with viciousness. Yes. And he's also the smooth criminal and

(02:06):
he pulls up the moves in the paint in the
low pos and you know that's the spin move with
So the smooth Criminals shows up. I mean, I love
it when Evil Maubli shows up. I'm a fan of
Evil Maubile, especially with that dunk that he had against
Toronto or Hiak. I'm just with the left hand too. Yeah,
those are the moments that you you know, people talk
about him being a unicorn and all that. Those are

(02:27):
the moments when you see do that's a seven footer, Yeah,
doing that thing like good hand spinning, running the floor
and grabbing the ball in motion and get damming it
with the left hand as great as the other guys
are on the team as Evil Mobile. That's the golden child.
And I like we've said this before. JB. Bickerstep said

(02:47):
it when he is your best player. When that happens,
that'll be when the Calves are at their back. I
have a question for you on March study. First, we
will be celebrating the seventh or eighth seventh no Ce Latina.
Yes for the Caps. When we play the knicks, I believe,
and I get to introduce the players in Spanish, Should

(03:08):
I say Evil Maley like yes, I usually say the
nicknames like I do Mat Squad. Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah,
because especially now with as much pull as winning radio heads.
Right now, let you said, we've talked about this before
the year. We are one monkey away. Monkey, we are
one monkey away from completing our And to give the update,

(03:29):
Adam Hines, who is the head of you know, a
head of entertainment, rocket Market, Shillhouse, whatever, you manager of director,
we have given him options already Monkeys, monkey halftime shows, right,
no exploitation. We've kind of laid out some of our
I haven't sent him my option for final appreciation day

(03:50):
a little to know that my final appreciation Day of
the two monkeys having the handing over the teacher the
jerseys to the winners, that stands as cavaliers rights. Yeah,
the one they also adopting one on golf. So so yeah,
I think to answer your question, I think, yes, you
should go with Evil Mobili because I'd love to see

(04:10):
that catch on because it's cool Sunday and the games
screw my whole week up, like I get it, screws
my whole thing up. Yeah, but we have victory Monday,
many victory Monday. We have had more victory Mondays doing
NBA season than I know. So the Cavs coming off

(04:31):
a beautiful win over Toronto, they smushed around it and
that was you know, oh, they they needed that one
after dropping three straight. But also because Toronto was the
one team that really gave him fits this year, beat
him the first three games to buy double figures. So
that was one I think mentally, you almost need to
get past them because they were I don't say they're

(04:53):
in your head, but they're a little in your head.
And that was a team that really gets They played
different last night. Toronto have been the team that wanted
to come in and shove us around and give us
the heart, and then we discover that they don't like
it when you give it back to ye. Nobody does
get their own medicine. Yeah, you know, even even Train
Junior who got hit in the face and was complaining
for for for for a foul. Then Ricky was the

(05:13):
one that hit him and then he's the one that
hit almost poke DG's eye and opening on opening nights,
DG needs a helmet this year. He does. But no,
it's it's an old NBA edge. You know. It's just
like running teams don't like me and running on physical
teams don't like when you're physical. So that was really impressive.
The only thing that is different than that is in boxing,

(05:34):
you don't fight the fighter or box the boxer. You
gotta do it the other way around when you're boxing.
When you're in boxing is if you're fighting a dude
that is a CounterPunch or you don't. You don't box
him because he's gonna gonna CounterPunch best. You gotta go
in there and get in the inside the phone books,
the phone booth and and like get it on with him.
Otherwise he's gonna So you gotta take that away in

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I think in basketball, in other sports, the team don't
like to get the wrown medicine and so no, and
you're right, and the speaking of physical basketball. Before we
get on, I have to talk about last week's All
Star game. That was the worst brand of basketball. And I,
you know, I hope I'll get in trouble really, but

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it's just like it was unwatchable. Man. Yeah, if you're
a fan, and look the numbers bear it out. The
ratings are telling you that this is not a viable product.
And if Adam Silver's if Adam Silver's listening, which he
undoubtedly is, he needs to, you know, make a change.
They need to be changes because the All Star Game

(06:38):
can't keep going like this, because it's turning into the
Pro Bowl where nobody cares. Two things I didn't knock
about the weekend obviously, the game on Sunday. It wasn't
a basketball game. No, he wasn't an exhibition game. It
was just barely a running up and down. And you
know it was as if maybe he took ten kids
and put them on the court and roll the ball
and then they see what you can do. Yeah, it
wasn't you know what it was. It was the warm

(06:58):
up line before they for the game, when they when
they jump on the when they jump on the court
right and doing those things. I didn't like that. And
the Celebrity game. I hate the image that guy celebrity game. Yeah,
for his Panics in the US, that image of him
just walking around and like a little clown. Yeah, it's
just not come on, it's not. I was gonna I

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was gonna bust you on watching the Celebrity game, but
I wanted to see what I wanted, So you're the
one who I wanted to see what stunt he was
gonna pull because I hate the people. I hate for
people to see him and they think that those are
his Panics in the US, And you know what, I
kind of think he's kind of funny. Although when he came,
when he showed up the finals, he was paying all.
It's all any the way he looks, But I can

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I can really understand what you're saying. Comes across, it'll
be like it'd be like an Italian guy showing up
and just you know with the character. Yeah, he's like
right with the shirt open. Yeah. And then then then
they complain that they look at us that way. Yeah,
I thought were portraying it's like they do. It's not good.
It's like there's plenty of all he's spanning that they

(08:03):
could have had there. You know, as long if he
wasn't him or about Bunny, I would have been okay
with it. Yeah, no, I can kind of agree with that.
But then again, the All Star Game was terrible. I
thought it was terrible, and I thought it started right
with you know, we talked about the national anthem, all
the time on the show. You're obviously a master of
the national anthem. You're saying the Canadian national anthem and

(08:24):
then like Jewel saying the name. Like again, how did
they pick Jewel of all people for the NBA. Also,
I want to know who the manager is that wan
want him exactly, Like you know, we should have sang
the national anthem for the All Star Game and this
guy could sing it every year? Is the guy who
sings it in Philly? This guy right here, As we
celebrate our freedom and those who defended protect our country

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with a singing of tonight's national anthem. For tonight's presentation
of the national anthem, please welcome the first double apputee
to achieve the rank of Eagle Scout run Brooks. Oh
oh say can you see by the donsoly liard? What's

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so proud we were at the twilights last Leave me
hold broad stripes and bright stars through the perols. Fine
for the rhyme parts we wars who were so gallant

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We stream me under rockets a round glad I'm bursty
gay food through the night that our flag was still fair?

(09:56):
O say, do not star spangled by Harway? Oh the lie, No,

(10:29):
Rod brooks Now, that is a national anthem, and the
dude sings it. You feel the anthem. What he's done,
I either, like I said, I want to play basketball
or join the army. When he's done. I'm so inspired
by it. And her national anthem was just weak and soft.

(10:50):
And he said, man, Jewel, that was like what stock
ninety nine? That's I mean, I don't even know if
the Golden Boy was born and it wasn't even good.
It wasn't even good. He's bringing l I was I
was born. I was born before nine. We're okay? When

(11:11):
were you born ninety six? Oh? My god? So you
didn't even get to do the wolf step nine and nine? No,
like like when the tribe was in there, when the
yeah they were the tribe they were they were driving
the World World Series. You weren't even born yet, by no,
not ninety five. It was ninety seven though. But when
when Mariano Rivera choked on that league, Oh come on, man,

(11:33):
Golden Boy was just dare you will say choke? And
Mariana Carman, what were you born ninety six? God? And
who being alive? As long as I had been a broadcaster,
these are my twenty fifth year. I was a broadcaster. Man. Yeah,
I started at the NBA two years after you were born.
That's crazy. I feel old. Look at us, I know,
do some news around the league. So we feel less

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old would be Jogi's son. God, thank god, you are
not bucking those days. I don't think we were. We were,
we weren't ready to provide for an appropriation. Well, you
will have to go in to like a four year
for year detox, but not not, not too recently. Anyway,

(12:17):
we've had the second seventy plus point night of the season,
which is kind of I mean, like before we get
into it, more like it's it's I think it's insane
to have two scoring to have two of them in
one season. I mean, and we've talked about it. You've
seen it in all this et cetera throughout the course
of the NBA season, with the guys scoring sixty and

(12:39):
fifty multiple times in forty However, many times for some
of the top guys, like so scoring is up, but
against seventy points from two individuals in the same season,
it is kind of insane. So do you have like,
is Dames better than Dons or is Dons better than
Dames like Dame did it in a blowout, played thirty

(13:02):
nine minutes, made thirteen threes. I think don shot twenty
five free throws, made twenty of them, but it took
overtime and the Calves needed every every point. That that's
the point that answers the question right there. I think
that one came in and we needed those points. And
also how he sent us to overtime, you know, those
two points right there, and then I think he had

(13:24):
thirteen in overtime, I think so, I think, yeah, I
think Harris had a bucket in overtime. Yeah, I think
he outscored him by himself. So to me, it's Donovan.
But I also don't love the idea of another seventy
point game really not really, because Donovan's I thought was

(13:44):
special and this makes it less special and somebody's gonna
try and get another one now, and I don't know.
I mean, I'm I'm all for offense. I almost feel
like there's too much offense think about it. Though he
had on six assists, which is half of the one.
Uh right, Yeah, ten had six ribbunds as well. He

(14:06):
went thirteen for twenty two from three, so that's all
he was jacking up. I mean, the team shot, the
team made twenty threes, and again it's against the Rockets
who were tanking. So I think, I don't think you
can't compete with the fact that he did in a
starting the year two. No, it wasn't at the beginning
of the year. Then when when Don did that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(14:30):
beginning of the calendar year, right, yeah, that's what I mean.
But he was like, you know, and then they really
weren't gone from the first half because they won forty
one twenty seven the second quarter and then they lost
the second quarter by one and won the third quarter
by the fourth quarter by three, So it was like
the Blazers, So it was kind of fun. But again
the Camps were I think we're down twenty one in

(14:51):
that game against the Bulls. Yeah, they made a comeback, right,
So for my money and not just being Homer Donald Mitchell,
that's the more impressive. Yeah, But I think it's a
result of what the league is to do. Obviously, scoring cells, right,
and if they're they're protecting the score. You know, it's
kind of like the chick dig the long ball back
in the day of baseball. Matter what you're putting in,

(15:12):
just just hit it out of the park because that's
gonna feel the stand. I don't think we're in that
position yet, but they're gonna have to do something, you know. Yeah,
you're gonna have to do at least something to benefit
of You know how when they when they was too
much hitting, they raised the mound a little bit just
the ball was juiced. Whatever it is, they they find
a way too. And right now with the way the

(15:32):
whistle is going, it benefits the attacker and all the defender.
Right It's just like the NFL. It's that you know,
you can't touch the guys whole bicker stuff before a
game this year if he thinks it'll ever course correct,
not that they'll ever go back in mid nineties, you know,
you know the next and the heat and all that.
But I said, do you ever think it'll course correct?

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And he said, no, it's here to stay. So people
love offense, and yeah, that's what I think. They should
give a little more access to the defender to be
able to at least right your curse right now. You
know you have you have embad going fifteen times to
the free throw line right whereas he can you speaking
of offense, you know you have the team with facing
in Boston. Those guys shoot, those guys move the ball.

(16:14):
Those guys it's like embad. It's like like Jane's when penetrating.
You can't barely breede on top of them. And like
the defender is kind of like hand tie. Yeah, literally,
and they and the other guy, the guy with the
ball can actually put his shoulder down, and and and
when you're seeing these big scoring games, you're seeing fifteen
to sixteenth from the line, twenty twenty one from the

(16:36):
line for the check will be scoring sixty points. That's
the thing. It's like, these guys are at the line
constantly now and nobody that's where they're getting the points.
You know, it's just a that's the way they're They're
probably gone gets you know. He got a text from
his mother saying that he needed to get seventy two
because Dame Tie. He's recorded quick answer. If there was

(16:56):
another guy to score seventy in the NBA this year,
who do you think it would be? Like? Who has
the best chance of scoring seventy? Booker would be one,
since he was the last one who had scored over
sixty before Dawn did it. Uh, let's say Luca, Luca, Luca.
It has to be one of those high volumes, because
don is not one of those guys, you know, especially
with the twelve. I mean he was responsible for one

(17:17):
hundred points. I think it was that so many ridiculous
like that. So he has to be one of a
high volume, right like Luca. And during you can talk
to this because you're calling the play by play during
Donovan seventy one point game, it never felt like he
was hard. He was never about how many points he's
gonna get. It felt like it was a game context

(17:37):
of the game. It felt like to me. Even he
said he didn't know until somebody told hibout who about
sixty eight or God, you're gonna get seven means I
think what you just said, Joe g it's evident like
he had eleven assists like he wasn't. Yeah, I mean
it was, I mean six, and this is a decent
number at its own, right, But but when you're gonna
get that sleepwalking basically here's the point guard. No, that's
what I mean. He's gonna get six by yeah, you know,

(18:00):
but I think Dawn seventy one is impressive just because
of the game, the way he developed the overtime. Two
of those seventy one three or those seventy one point
came at the end when he rebounded, Yeah, rebounded the
ball in the miss free throw and a perfect, basically
perfect fourth quarter and overtime that the Cabs needed to

(18:21):
pull that game out. Yeah, I'm definitely voting for the man.
The Bucks have won fourteenth straight. Are they the best
team in the East? Are the best team in the league?
This is right now, This is some of it. Some
of it has been without Jannis two in his wrist injury.
We don't know entirely how long he's gonna be out.
And he left, he left the leg, he left the
game with any injury the other day in Phoenix. Um,

(18:44):
so it's are they? Are they the best team in
the NBA? They're hot? Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna go. I
tell you why. Next week there may be another They better,
they better, they better not put too much into this
winning streak and stuff, because I don't think they're making
it through the through the finals with Janet's healthy. I
don't care. Why are you telling me that they're doing

(19:06):
right now? Winning fourteen games in a row, but in
a serious Jannis, no way, No, Middleton, not really all
the way because he's coming off the bench. So I
mean we saw that like Star Player in I mean,
Yannis and Jaw are different, of course, but like when
it looked like Memphis had a legit shot at beating

(19:27):
Gold State in the playoffs last year, Jah went down
in game two or three or something, and then they
just got wiped. You know, the floor got wiped with them,
Like it's Jannis has to be there for Milwaukee, of course,
no doubt you can win the game here and there,
but you can't advance in the series about that guy
for sure. Although didn't didn't the Hasslems just buy the Bucks,

(19:48):
which I think is interesting, Like however much the Hazlems
bought it for, I think that was the that was
the or in investment, Like that's the second highest in
NBA history behind the Suns, which just got sold and
like the Hasms, it wasn't even a full sales, so
that's kind of surprising. I don't know, I thought it
was I think my barbell at the club, Yeah right,

(20:10):
all the people, all the people body seats. Don't think
because of the brown we got anything else? But or
should we move on. Well, that's up to you. I
was gonna ask very quickly about baseball training. Yes, I
want to hear how and we will talk about this.
I'm sure more is the new rules on and everything. No,
not necessarily about the new rules, but just excitement. Are
you excited for its training? Oh? Yeah, I'm always excited

(20:32):
about baseball. Man. This is what I like about fever Man.
What I like about baseball. Baseball is maybe my second
favorite sport. But what I like about it so much
is like how every team this time of year, an
opening day, the first week of the season, every teams
like we have a legit shot. Yeah, like, of course
you have the guys who spend hundreds of millions as

(20:54):
a team and have these unbelievable players across the field.
But baseball is Basicall you gotta throw the ball. Yeah,
you have got to hit it and catch it to
swing in all this like anything can really anybody Anybody
not excited about baseball is not American. You have to

(21:14):
you have to love baseball. Yeah, baseball. It's not only
it's a great sport. I love watching it, but it
also indicates that summer's comments it's coming. It's like nice
weather that you know and unless you yeah, who just
doesn't like doesn't like any ran the third. But again,
Mamma is the prime example of what baseball is doing

(21:36):
wrong because they're trying to cater to people that are
not going to like baseball regardless of how long the
game takes. There's no amount of speak. All these like
eight second to be in the box and nine second
to be in the squat and nada, da da. And
then on top of that, you can only throw a
pickoff twice twice now to pick off at temper battery.
I love that, Yeah, I love it. I personally it's

(21:59):
too slow. Speed it up a little bit. I mean,
I but that's too much. But who goes to a
baseball game going, oh my god, I hope these kids
just things only take me two hours ago. It's not that,
it's just it's too long and slow and boring. It
just is stepping off the rubber and stepping outside the
batter's box, adjusting your batting gloves and that's fine. It's

(22:20):
to the mound and that's fine by much. A timer
on the pitch and the hitter. It's dumb. It's I mean,
the day a game ended on a clock violation. Think
about that happening in the world shot. Think about it
happening in any game. Think about the game. You're at
a game and could be the middle of June. How
many fans do you think they're gonna get by getting

(22:43):
that by that happening? Can you imagine that? Can you
imagine eat either the home crowd or the away crowd
if that happens. I don't think it games up. I
don't think. I don't like it, but again I need
to see it. But but I do think it needs
to be spent. Okay, you're gonna bring in the runner
on second base on the trains, I understand. Fine, you

(23:04):
want to make sure the game is over. You don't.
There's no way to play penalty kicks or they're gonna
do a home run. There be at the end of
the game you're two whatever, that's fine, But the game itself,
you cannot change that. Now you gotta have two players
on each side of second base, you can. I love,
Oh my god, that that to me is the hands
down the best one. But fan of the shift, fine,

(23:27):
that would be better for hitting right, you gotta have
to hit both ways. Well all that, but to make
it like to time that the guy has I'm gonna
have to see it. That might be bad. Now the
guys knows when it's coming, you know. It's like there's
a guy that's it's it's I don't know, I have
to watch it. But still I'm gonna be the worst
part about it that I'm gonna be watching anyway. Oh yeah,

(23:48):
because I love the game. I can't watch the baseball
is the only sport that I can. I can't watch
any teams, and I'll watch the game. It doesn't matter.
I don't have to be a fan of either one
like and I think MLB did did a good thing
this year by having each team play everybody. This season
is too long for I love that one. For the
Guards to not see the n O West love it

(24:10):
for four years or whatever. It is like when we
play like Miami, tell me everything that you can about
the Miami Marlins, Like I will sit there and listen
to you say, agreeing about every about example. Yeah, it's
you know, it's basically now that you know. What I'm

(24:35):
looking forward to this season is watching the Guardians rocked
the Baby, Baby rocked the Baby. Do you think Josh
Nayler brings that out again. Ever, I hope not in
the way he did last time. But I mean, like,
I can't wait to see the Yankees coming early. Man,
that's gonna be a good series. Yeah, these kids, like
in the first first or two second homestand yeah they

(24:57):
start they start out West, the Guardians, well Leather, we
play like Seattle in LA. And yeah, they usually started
Texas or they started in the world. No, I know,
but that's weird when you start like out web. That's
usually like one of the longest trips. I love that too.
Nice ten oclot out of the way, and I wish
I did baseball. Mayball is a fun thing about fun sport. Yeah,

(25:17):
so hey, uh mecho, thank you so much for joining us,
But we have to give you the bum's rest now
because we have before it. Yeah, I got waiting for you.
We have an NBA player. Then we will be right
back with Danny Green to talk a little about second
half of the season. Talk a little All Star game
too with Danny Green. See what he thought coming up

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(27:17):
welcome back to segment two of Wine and Gold Radio.
Wine and Gold Radio. We're um, actually you know what
we're We're joined by our special guest, Danny Green. Danny,
first of all, thanks for coming out, well, thanks for
having love love the tune, And we just got done
on the previous segment graping about the All Star Game,

(27:39):
this recent All Star game, and I said, and I'm
gonna ask you, how is it for players? And did
you watch did you enjoy it? And be honest, yeah,
I didn't. I didn't. I didn't watch it. Um, but
if people ask I from I do my own podcast
Inside the Green by the way, So for my podcast
we spoke about it as well. I've seen the highlights.
Of course, was to act like I watched it, but

(28:01):
now I did not watch it. I don't really look
forward to watching those games or weekends and sometimes I
was like, let me see the depending on who's in it.
Three point contests, I do take an interest in, um,
but the other stuff not so much. Really. Okay, what
did you think about that? I mean, what did you
think about the highlights that you watched or they're okay?
I mean the dunk contest. I did big props to

(28:23):
mc mcclong. He did a good, great job. Ye happy
for him. Good, very humble young kid. I'm a fan.
You know, he's got a fan of me, uh now
and a fan of a lot of other people. UM,
you know, to see him come where he's come from. Um.
You know, he had a couple of transfers in school,
lead school, early league, route up and down, get a
chance to put to participate in then be a dunk contest,
which is usually an honor for most people. Now it's

(28:45):
hard to get guys to do it. But um, you know,
he did an amazing job of keeping entertainment excitement up
for the weekend. And you you you just hit that
point that I wanted to ask you because I used
to watch. I'm a little older than you, but I
you know, they used to play really hard in those games. Yeah,
but Mike, where did he go? Sound? Where did he
change that? That nobody plays anymore? And I don't understand

(29:05):
it might be there looking out for themselves, but what happened.
I think it started to change when the load management
started to happen. Yeah, you know, sadly enough, it was
like some guys. I don't want to point out a
particular group or person or coach, but I know, you know,
some of the top teams would have like some extra

(29:25):
player with two or three guys in the game. The
coaches arrest them, you know, or not play them, or
you know, don't get hurt or somebody who got to
get hurt in anybody. Oh, we're not gonna I think
Covid said Brooke's nose one time. But as years went on,
to make sure guys didn't get hurt during that. Also,
I think there's some strange things that trade deadline was
also changed. Yes, so there were times where guys would
get traded during the All Star weekend. I remember last

(29:46):
time I saw that happened. I think it was DeMarcus Cousins.
It was exactly. And now they moved the trade in
line up before the weekend. But I think during that
time when trades would happened and people were kind of
like in a weird limbo atmosphere, and then they were like,
you know, we don't know what's happening, what's going on?
And I say, stopped taking it seriously. So because the
trade ever, right, so more focus on the trade deadline,

(30:08):
more focused on resting, more focused on, you know, other things.
It became more of that type of deal than actually
entertaining the fans and have an All Star weekend. What
would you do to change it if you could change it?
Or do you think I would? I would change it
if I could. Um, but I mean I think it
find you have to find the happy media balance, right, Um,
we used to have only a weekend. I'm glad that

(30:28):
we have a week, but it still seems short somehow
start break so before it was shorter. But I think
if you want guys to play hard, you got to
give an extra more a couple more days of rest,
you know, extra two Yeah, extra two or three more
days would help. But you know, obviously incentives always help. Um.
But you know, it kind of starts from from the top.
It starts with you know, the top guys, maybe the captains,

(30:50):
the coaches, um. But I think incentives that you see
certain games starts to pick up. I think a couple
of years ago in the fourth quarter and I was like, oh,
whoever wins the game gets a certain amount of money
to donate or whatever. Uh so that always helps, um.
But yeah, I think also the rest days would help
as well. Yeah, you're a guy that like you seem

(31:12):
to me that you're into broadcasting and i'd preparing a
little bit. Yeah might not hopefully some time from now,
but that but I seem to be interested, yes, in
this side of the very much the thing. Right, do
you have fun doing the whole thing? And I do?
I do. Um. They make it easy for me though,

(31:34):
so it's and I think the hard part when I
see I was with Richard Jefferson recently and Tristan Thompson
other Cavaliers. We had a nice lit roster. Kendrick Perkins,
I guess we didn't have him on the set, but
sometimes he's but a bunch of x calves. I got
a chance to UM I once say host with but
I did the set with a segment and Richard was hosting.
He only does it. I guess some Malia Malika is out.

(31:54):
She's not around, which is not often, and that's probably
a challenge for so him. It's like his game time.
He has to like read his notes, make sure prepared,
you know, go through nobody's saying bring energy, and he
has to like lead the show disco shirt on. He
did not have a disco shirt on, but seeing that
part of it made it like see, like okay, this
is something that was not the same as competing or hooping,

(32:14):
but it's like your game time, challenging thing that you
can have fun with. And I do like talking sports.
I do like debating. Everybody loves that. Everybody does it
every day at home, they do it in the barbershop.
That's just something we do as fans and as players.
So UM, if you can do it publicly and do
it on TV to get paid for it. Why not?
You know? So yeah, it would be fun. Yeah, So
like what's it like? You know, and you talked, we

(32:36):
heard you talking before that you weren't in Cleveland really
that long before. But I do want to talk about
that rookie year because okay, that was a wild year
for let's I wanted to ask you about it now
because I looked at some of the guys from that team. Yeah,
and for Camps fans, they that's Lebron, Mo Williams, Yeah,
that's Shack, that's Andy big Z and still atte Park

(32:58):
Booby Jamario Booby here right. So when you think about it,
like and again, that team did well. They got knocked
out the Celtics State year. Yes, and that was Lebron's
last year and all that before he made the decision. Yea,
that decision happened. I was in the cold tub. Yeah,
we were doing like I think it was summer workouts.
I'm getting ready for summer league or something like that,
and we had like a preseason or I don't know

(33:20):
what it was. But I was in that cold tub
watching the decision. We all were looking watching, you know,
seeing what he was gonna say. So I remember being
here watching the decision. What way were you leaning in
when he was up there? Did you think it was?
I had no idea honestly. Um. I was only with
him for a short span of time. Um, you could tell,
I said the moment he looked nervous and shaky. So
I was like, all right, he may not he may

(33:40):
be making a decision. Yeah. Um. But when he said it,
I think a lot of us were just kind of
like waiting for more, like the money, yeah, or is
there a joke coming? So it was like man, and
then um, I saw the city changed quickly. Right. You

(34:03):
don't realize how much of impact somebody like that has
on a city until they leave and said in very
short amount of time that the city was very different. Yeah. Yeah,
a couple months after that. So when everybody hears the
name Danny Green, or they think of trees from all
over the all over the court, Um, they think of
that one or four players that have one title with

(34:24):
three different teams. Nobody, Nobody seemed to think of or
realize that the hard beginning you had to your to
your professional career. I mean, you came from winning the
title and your senior year, you see you get caught,
you get wave, you get created to an antonio back
and forth. What keep you going during those I mean,
because I'm pretty sure you got tested mentally. Yeah, for sure. Um,

(34:46):
I'm glad I got tested mentally earlier in my career.
It kind of helps shape who I am. UM. But
I had a great foundation around me, and I think
having my friends and family support me, of course, but
also seeing my college teammates to be able to achieve
success early on, let me know that, you know, I
should be able to do that too, or I belong there.
And I played with a lot of those guys are

(35:07):
my beers that were drafted earlier on. I was like,
I played with them against a lot of those guys,
and I've done well. So there's no way, Like I'm
saying no way, but I feel like there's definitely an
opportunity and I feel like I could do what some
of them were doing. And I felt like I belong
if I just got the opportunity. But you had to
continue to work, you know, and statementally locked in um
and prepared for when the opportunity came. So I was here,

(35:29):
I was cut. I did the Byron Scott preseason, which
was a hell of a preseason. Um yeah, it was fun.
I was probably one of the best shapes of my life.
And then it got cut after that, and then I
was home for a little while and then did the
G League out, almost went overseas, did the G League
out for a couple of months, and then luckily out opportunity.
Well I went. Before that, I went, I did a
workout with san Antonio, the two work outs with them,

(35:49):
and they signed me and I was there for like
a week and then they cut me after that, so
I was like, damn, you know second Yeah, a lockout
happened after that. I went, I went to I was
home for a little while, like two months, and then
I went to G League and then san Antonio called
me back. I'd lucky get another opportunity with san Antonio
at the end of the season, and I think that's
when they were the one seed playing the eight team
with Memphis. Yeah, surprisingly lost that round. Mino had a

(36:12):
dislocated elbow, and then the lockout happened after that, so
I went Overseas to play. I always say you're responsible
for Minu g Nobody being in the in the hall
of fame because you started, you started getting and it
started in five and Minuh went to the bench and
became six man in the world. That was that was
minus decision. I had nothing to do it yet for sure,

(36:34):
but he Uh. I think he started realizing his body
was getting a little his hamstring, so his minute restriction
was it was better. And also scoring wise, teams start realizing, oh,
we need scoring off the bench too, and for him
to going to the second unit, we need to score.
And also him and Tony having a split time Tony
being the first group running his pickn roll situation, that
mine who can have the second group run his pick
and roll situation where they both can be very effective
and helped the group uh in a in a package

(36:56):
in total, so um it worked out for everybody. And
I said, I came in, I got lucky, and I
said I had to make the team again. So lockout
happened and I went overseas to play and then came
back had to make the team, and the Minu got
hurt again. I think he broke his hand or something.
They were scrambling looking for somebody who can play UM,
and I luckily said that opportunity came and it was
against actually against Golden State, Monte and stuff. They had

(37:18):
Monte and stuff there, right, Monte was the man that
he was still still good. Yeah, ankle, So Steph, I
think he heard his ankle by half time. Didn't play
the second half, but he still had like twenty twenty
five but half and Monte was like had like thirty
going into the fourth, and like, we need somebody to
stop this guy. And I played decent defense for you know,
the fourth churt against him. The next playing zero minutes

(37:39):
of playing like five or ten minutes a game. Yeah
he can shoot, so ten ten. And then next Joe
Minu was said he started to come back. Then he
had to ham drink and She's like, all right, now
we could probably need somebody start him, to bring him
off the bench. So I would start the first couple
of minutes in the mond, come right in. So like
again I'm looking at you, look at your resume. You've
you've done nothing but win. I mean, you've I've been

(38:00):
in a very good situation. But I mean it's also
it speaks to you too, and that you're a winner
and you play winning basketball and that the show you
plan winning teams. That's why I've learned you learned to
play from especially high school with my high school coach
was a little crazy, and in college coach Williams. So
I gave a lot of credits to Tim Cluson and
coach Roy Williams who have instilled that part of me

(38:22):
how to play winning basketball because I wasn't a star
in any of those teams high school maybe a little
bit more. College I was didn't start to my senior year,
and I was the fifth option, So I had to
learn how to be a really good glue guy and
role player. And would Danny greenby here if he had
going into the draft a year that you that you
opted to go or I don't know, switched from UNC

(38:43):
through somewhere else. Probably not. Probably not. Um, you know,
because a lot of guys that I've noticed the trend
that guys that that peak earlier get a lot of
attention early usually fade out sooner or two. You know,
there's a lot of guys from my draft UM that
are no longer in the league anymore. But you know,
we have a couple of guys still Ricky roockies my
draft UM. But there's a lot of guys that said
that were the head US. Now yeah, I mean Yere

(39:05):
Yeah yeah, Christian Christens my guy. Right, So we had
the same birthday. Was crazy. We still keep in contact
here and there. Birthday with my father. Yeah, it's a
great one. He's a good guy. Yeah. I have to
ask you like a pure basketball question before we start
jerking around. Yeah, you won three like Rapha said, you
win three titles with three different teams. Um, what are

(39:27):
those teams have in common? What are you title tickets?
We're looking to do it here in Cleveland. What did
they have in common? What was different about it? But
what some some had a lot in common? You just
you some about the NBA. Correct, this is outside of college, Um, Santanna.
I felt like we started that on say the trend
or stigma, but the whole they there was a lot
of European type basketball. We had a lot of guys

(39:49):
for foreign players, and we played the drive kick swing
type of basketball. Wasn't a two man game, you know,
back from Shock and Cob showtime Lakers. Here a two
man gag. Guys. You have your stars scoring, some guys
pick it up. We played ultimate team basketball and team
started to do that. You know, we need to find threes.
We need to find guys that can swing and move
the ball and play that type of basketball. Very rare

(40:11):
you see two guys like Kyrie and Braun take over
a series and win a championship for you. Now in
these days, you need it's a collective effort. So Golden
States started doing this driving and kicking a guy. Obviously
they have superstars that can I can score whenever you
need a basket. But they played together, They found each other,
They swung the ball, they moved, and had a system

(40:31):
that was it was hard to defend regardless of who
was in it. They can swap in many different players
and still be a very successful group. And that's what
San Antonio was for me and for the league. Um So,
I would say Toronto and San Antonio very similar in
that aspect. You know, we did a lot of move
Obviously we had Kawai who had went off, but we
had guys step up like Norm Fred van Fleet, we

(40:51):
had Kyle Lowry had an amazing final series, but we
had Pascal was still young, come up and coming. But
we had if you look at the guys that we had,
we had an unbelievable talented team. But we Nick coached
that type of solid play, you know, find guys, get
to the paint and find threes and make the extra pass.
Um La was similar with a little different We just had.

(41:11):
We just had a really good team. We had a
lot of experienced guys that have been there. We had Rondo,
we had Broun, we had Dwight, we had javelle Um,
we had Avery Bradley, we had KCP, we had Anthony
Davis said, we had a bunch of Hall of Famers
to experienced guys. We were just more talented and better everybody.
We did play well and we had good I love
Frank's defensive schemes. We had a good defensive team and

(41:32):
that's the things helped us win it. Obviously we can
score basketball a D and braun Um and offensively we
had different sets. But it wasn't like those two other teams.
Um but we were just you know, really talented and
very good. But Toronto and San Antonio office very similar
in the aspect of how the style of play was.
And then I guess my just follow up question is
does this team have some of the elements for sure

(41:53):
the way JAB coaches them. Yes, they definitely coached and
that's because he knows that. I mean, we do have
two stars. We have more than two. We have four really,
but two guys that can get you a basket and
maybe a third guy that can also get you like
a basket. He's still young and up and coming and
learning and evan, um, but he knows that even those
those guys aren't gonna win. You'll sit like they can

(42:14):
win a quarter. They can maybe win a game for you,
But to win a series, you need to collectively and
we need our other guys playing well. So you need
eight or nine guys on a string defensively and offensively
on the same page, two or three X factors that
can step up and actually score for you. You need
some type of Eddie House type of player. You know,
you know Fred van Fleet type of player even though
Fred was an All Star, but he was you know,

(42:35):
a guy to come with the bench that would score
a lot for you and give you some scoring and
bunches or some of that's like a norm power even
though he's a player. Now come with the bench, you
know what to give you, you know, some firepower. Um.
So you need that that type of you know, depth
in order to outlast certain teams and go through a
whole playoff series and make it to the finals and

(42:55):
play through June a whole another season mentally, um, and
same on your body physically. But yeah, you definitely the
way he coaches it. He knows and we're gonna need that,
you know. I finished high school and I came to
from child that. I went to New York and in
Long Island and uh in Locals Valley next to Going
Gold Really yeah, okay, okay, So how does that guy
from Bobbylon and from my hast Beautiful I grew up

(43:18):
went to school there. Yeah, we went with the private
school there. How do you end up in North Carolina?
Was there all their options for you? There were options,
but I've been lucky man, and so I went to
you know, back then, they had the camps. They had
Nike Camp, Dida's camp. So I went to ABCD camp.
So it was Adda's first. I think it went to
Rebok after that. Um, but I wasn't highly recruited till
my senior year. So I went going into my junior

(43:40):
as a sophomore, I got noticed a little more. I
played well, I did. I was one of those guys
I wasn't great at anything, but was good at a
lot of things. Um, you know, the guy can stuff
the statute a little before you get you some rebounds,
get you to steal some blocks, knocked down a couple
of three dcase on shots, score a little before you
can rebound. Uh, you know a little you know a
little bit of everything. Um. And I would get some
mid major year and then some lower high D one

(44:02):
schools after going into my junior. But my junior going
into my ceyear, I went that summer I did really well.
So that's when I started getting highly recruited by high
you know, hired d D one schools, and Carolina was
the dream school I went. Yeah, because one one to
public school. I went there for my first year as
a freshman, and I just felt like I wouldn't get
as recruited as high then going to Sat. Mary's and

(44:24):
I had a chance to win a state title being
a Saint Mary's. Yeah. Uh, my high school, my public
school was good. We were good if everybody stayed, but
a lot of guys were leaving and we weren't that discipline.
So I thought I would get better coaching, more discipline,
no offense to the coach that had he was good,
he didn't have the resources or the players to stay.
We had very good talent at my school, but they
all left to other kind of like when you go
to a school for you know, you want to go

(44:46):
to a place where they're going to put you in
good positions to put the job. Yeah. Same, Mary's already good.
They already had d one players there and had they
were good school. We get you to school. So they
always one of top schools in the in the state
and sometimes in the countries. So I was like, all right,
they win here all the time. I get a chance
the one CHAMPI ship get looked at it, you know,
get what I need to get a scholarship if I

(45:06):
want to go to school to play for free. So
that's how it happened. So I was going there. I
was like Christ King was one of them, um, but
they were really recruiting me. Um. I know they might
look back on it today like damn, we probably shouldn't go,
but they were. It was Christ the King and a
couple of Saint Mary's one and by the same areas.
I thought it was a better fit. See Mary us
one of the recent why it became a point because
I wasn't center by come, I was one of the patrols. Guys.

(45:26):
I came here and I saw the kids on my
hats and playing. I was like, oh my god, we
know some guys gum all over and then you guys
coming one of us legal but that some guys will
come from Africa to Yeah, you know, it's really good
Danny again like change gears. Kind of where we sit Actually,
the people that are sitting in this room, we all
sit getting in the same spot. We watched the game. Okay,

(45:47):
was that behind the bench our bench up on the
You never you rarely, if ever shit on the see
you walking back and forth with Ed one of pt guy. Yeah,
is that a thing to keep loose? Yes? The thing
when you get older, the bike becomes your friend. You know,
once the engine starts, you can't shut it down. You

(46:10):
gotta keep the engine going once it's once you shut down,
it's over. So Um, as a professional, you gotta be ready.
I said, I don't know how JB's still figuring out rotations,
you know that type of deal. Um. You know, we
had a couple conversations. He knows that I'm still kind
of I'm gonna say rehabbing, but he wants to make
sure that I'm I'm full full strength and wants me
and Rickey to continue our rehab, to be ready for

(46:31):
when time is right. But I'm like, you know, I'm here.
I'm here whenever you need me. I'm ready first night
and you know, yeah, I mean, we had guys down
and we played in Philly, and I'm like, whenever you
need me, I'm ready to go. So I just have
to be ready. So I don't know when he's gonna
call my name. So I make sure I stretch, I
make sure i'm on the bike, I'm running, And mind you,
the bench is all cluttered anyways, a bunch of guys
are not making good. You got seven everybody's seven foot

(46:51):
on this team. You got Evan, you got Jared, you
got Rollo. These guys are not small guys. And then
you got even uh you know, Isaiah, who's Evan's brother, Mamadee.
I'm like ten six of I'm not about to squeeze
in with the seven foot at the end of the
bench and not Bill see the game. I'm gonna get
a comfortable seat right here on his bike. You know,
stay warm and get a good view. So that's where
I'm at. Okay, and I got embarrassing for one second,

(47:14):
just real quick, and that we were watching you one
time and Dan Gilbert, our chairman, came and he was
trying to get into his seat there on the baseline
and you helped him, and I thought that was just
a yeah, it's a little class move. It was. It
was great. Same. I haven't seen him in so long. Yeah,
he could see that he was Danny Green. I was like,
I'm glad you're back. I'm like, man, got a long time,
glad to see you. Yeah, that was a cool moment, man. Yeah,

(47:34):
it was good to see that. It was last move man. Yeah. Hey,
I want to ask you a question that everybody listened to,
millions people listening and want to know. Were you ever
a reason for for a coach Popovich time out like
ten seconds into the game. I was probably always the
reason first time. Yeah, he has some record breaking time out. Yeah, yeah,
I was eight percent of those because of Danny Green.

(47:57):
Danny Green mistake for sure. I'm out cussed me out.
What the fun? You know? So yeah, if you look
at some of the highlights of YouTube, you get a
kick out of I get a kick out of it
now going back and watch like dahn um. I actually
showed some I think when I was in Memphis, we
showed a couple of random clips of it when I
got cussed out. Uh, just to show the young guys
how it was back then. Yeah, yeah, and um, you

(48:19):
know you had to take the constructive criticism, keep it moving,
you know. Now the world's a little different places. Um.
So yes, is he as intimidating as he seems, because man,
we we go to San Antonio, I'm afraid to asking.
Was always scared. He's a big braid of him. He's
a comedian man, he's a big teddy bear, he's a grandpa.
He's fun, but he is intense. When it comes to
practicing on that court, you're definitely scared of him. But

(48:40):
as off the court, he said he's a grandpa. He's
he's a big teddy bear, he's funny, comedians, soft hearted guy.
He hasn't Yeah, he's he's a great he said off
he said he's a grandpa, and was like, oh, he's
a guy just got a ton of story mine his memory.
He's a memory of an elephant. So Arjie remembers every Yeah,
I remember some you know, they come back to me

(49:01):
as as oh I remember that happening. But yeah, he
had some stories being there. Man. It was a lot
of fun and I couldn't stop laughing at some of
the things that he did. All but he was cutting
me out. But most of the time it was stand
up comedy. You know, how he talked to the media,
how he would talk to the fans and talk to
our team. You want, I last saw him here when
we played him in and uh here in Cleveland. Yeah,

(49:22):
you know, I talked to my chance to talk to him.
It was funny. He goes cracked me up. Ye, you
guys looking at me crazy. You know. He's like, yeah,
it's okay. You guys are playing well, you're fighting, but
you're gonna lose some more. You know. He's like, they're
looking like I'm nuts. I'm like, yeah, I'm sure they do.
He's like, but it's a great group. You know, the
young kids. They're they're they're understanding, they are gaining, and
he likes he's enjoying um coaching them. I was going
to ask you, how is he dealing with these young guys? Yeah,

(49:43):
I mean it was different, you know, he took a turn,
things happened in life, things changed, you know, I don't
when the wife arrest his whole past, I don't thinks
changed for him. I wasn't sure how much longer, and
he's getting older, how much longer he'd be around. But
he seems to be enjoying, uh said, coaching this group
and these young guys. And I mean, if if he
likes him, I can see him being around for a
couple more years. I thought this would be his last year,

(50:04):
but you never know. If they get when yam start,
you know, some more years. I was like, no, he's
definitely gonna have his name in some throwphy coming up.
Yeah you know, Uh, Danny green Man, thank you so
much for joining man, I'm waning to go. Oh. We
also have to tell you that one Ana Gole Radio.

(50:25):
Our podcast has been getting a lot of pull with
the organization lately. Yeah. Yeah, within so you know, we
got we're getting like our songs played and they're halftime Max.
So if you have anything you need, come to us.
You know, if you need like a security guy or
an usher fired or anything like that, I'll hold you
to it before you go. You mentioned your podcast, what's
what's the green room. You can find it anywhere, the

(50:47):
green Room with Danny green but you can find on
any platform. So yeah, we are you gonna have last
time one day? Of course, of course, y'all untroduced to
my guys, my co host Harrison Sanford. Um, I got
m j Osman. He'll be here. They'll be here probably
with the media past. You'll see them. Okay, I'll definitely
introduce the way. It's okay, it's decent. It's better when
I'm there. I can understand it again, I can understand

(51:09):
it better. I can speak it, but I'm better when
I'm in a Spanish speaking country. So yeah, good, all right,
Danny green Man, thank you, thank you, thank you for sure. Hi.
I'm Campy Russell and I never never never listened to
Wine and Gold radio because I'm from Michigan. Who with

(51:40):
the In the two thousand and sixteen NBA Draft, the
Houston Rockets select Joe Chi from shin Yong, China. He
last played for the Shinjiong Flying Tigers in China. Okay,
so Joe Chi is the opposite of a point GUARDI
seven two h attle bit different. So what this is

(52:02):
the guy? You really like fram Well, I like saying
his nicknake moan, the big devil kid. Hey have any mother? No?

(52:30):
Back to Wine and Go radio. Okay, everybody, welcome back
for a segment three that you know raft I started wrong?
Would you want what's that? What wrong? Would you drafted on? Uh?
Second round? Yeah? And I came into the league as
a seven foot two Chinese point guard and now I'm
just like a six foot white guy. Nothing. You know,

(52:52):
the best I went downhill the best. I'm a draft bust.
The best point about that, he's like everybody on that
desk that night was pretending to know who Joe she was? Right.
You have to be kidding me that you knew? Did
you know? He was the coach of Saint Johns when
I was there. He's one of the best dudes. One

(53:12):
a quick story about Frank Frachilla. He came in after
I think it was Mike Jarvis who was let go,
and we were actually allowed to watch practices and you know,
for Saint John's and I was at at Alumni Hall
watching practice and this guy came in in a very
violent way, trying to kick me out of practice, and
I was no, no, This dude from the building and

(53:33):
I was trying to tell him, you know, I'm with
the team. Yeah, I got the Spanish voice of the team,
and he wasn't buying it. And finally I have to go, like, coach,
a little help here, and from down there he goes, hey,
my Spanish friend is okay, leave him there? Wow? Yeah.
And now I worked with him doing the final fours.
He comes in. He's always there working the final fource.

(53:54):
Coach for Chilla is one of the best dudes. Makes
me like him even more, yea even more. Um, Hey,
Danny Green was great. I thought Danny Green, he's excellent.
You could tell that, guys. I didn't have the nerd
to ask him why he why does he walk like
something hard time? He's gonna be great broadcasting, he does.
He kind of walks like he worked, like he worked,

(54:14):
like he has three nails in the soul, like an
old man. Yeah, but I didn't one. We'll get we'll
get we'll get to know. We'll have him on again,
or maybe he'll house in the green room. Oh yeah,
that's right. Yeah, that'd be kind of cool. He's never
gonna have a size. Right now, we have our next
special guest is Madison Phillips straight out in Salt Lake
right exactly back from Salt Lake City. Madison, I don't

(54:36):
know your title, because I don't know anybody's title, but
I'll bet it's like a super long, huge title. The title,
it's a really long title. It's a senior manager of
Digital Content Strategy and Social Media. Wow, the longest title
we've ever had on the show so far. By Lean
Will announcer thing, I have beat writer. I have the
shortest title, and I can't move up or down. I

(54:58):
could probably move down. And also, Mandison has desks all
over the all over the office. Well, one time I'm walking,
she'll be sitting at this desk, neighbor she's at another.
Now she's in your neighborhood now, And I'm thinking that
Madison just walks around the office and just takes whatever
desk she wants. Right. It just says you, that's my desk,
get out. That's that's the key. Right. So I was

(55:20):
in partnerships before this, So I just kind of migrate
around the office and sit down wherever I need to
sit down, kind of how I've always functioned. You're like
like a cop in one of those shows where you
like commandero at a desk, you just say that's mine. Yeah,
she had the coolest dog in the office. Really, Oh,
you brought your dog in? I do. I bring my
dog in. I try to bring him in consistently, but

(55:40):
it's hard with traveling and everything. But yeah, his name
is Phineas. He's really cute. He's a frenchie. Yeah he's
he's like not about all the people all the time,
but he's he's very like confidentious to just to be there.
He literally take it all in. Yeah, so he's he's
he behaves. Oh yeah, yet I get to hang out
with me when I'm there, secret whistle. I'm like, like,

(56:04):
he gets really excited to see everybody. My dog loves rap.
My fat dog loves rap. Yeah. I've been playing with
the idea of bringing my dog in, but I think
my dog would just go nuts. I don't think. No,
my dogs no good. My dog just likes to sleep,
like for hours and are very good office dog. My
dog's the worst. So you basically the meaning of that

(56:26):
long title is basically, you're the top dog of the
social media team. You are the you call all the shots. Yes, yes,
so Monday morning, when you you're the one that calls
everybody and just reams them right. I feel like I
feel like I'm much more fair than than that terminology. No.
I yeah, So I run our social team and then

(56:48):
I run all of the producers that create the content. First.
That's a lot. Yeah, it doesn't really shut down. You're
running twenty four seven. That was gonna be my question
for you, and that I know I we know people
who've worked social before you, and that was the one
thing that really kind of got to him, and that
it never sleeps. No, And how how are you handling

(57:09):
that well? I, like I said, I was on partnerships
before this, so this is my first year kind of
crossing over into this uh team. UM, I think you
really got to live and breathe it and you got
to be committed to it because the moment you step
outside of that mentality, it has effects of a slippery slope.
I'm assuming. So I still get excited to go in. Um,

(57:34):
And I swear to god, I'm not just saying, but
I still get excited to go in. And you know,
even even on those like low points, it's still exciting, like, um,
we're gonna get on a plane to go to Boston
tomorrow and like those are still just super exciting moments
that you were always just looking forward to. What media platforms.

(57:55):
I'm not a big social because I'm, you know, old guy,
So I'm not like you're kind of good at social media,
You're very good about it. I think I'm really not
what I'm going to put platforms. Yeah, if you do
get in trouble quite a bit, That's kind of why
I'm glad I'm he does. He's always getting a little
pepe smacked all the time. Um, what platforms are we're on?
We're on Twitter, where I'm We're on all everything Twitter thing.

(58:17):
I want to hear her say it, man Yeah, we're
I know, but I'm I'm not the only thing I'm
on is Twitter, and I hate Twitter, as you know.
Twitter makes me sad about Yeah, it makes me. I guess.
I got suspended from Twitter for like a month, and
I loved it. Why. I don't even know either way,
Maybe I ended up well either way, but I was

(58:38):
off for a month and I told Manus and it
was like the greatest month of my life. Like, I
don't really love social media, so I'm not a great
I used to get in a lot more trouble than now.
But like back in the days, I used to just
shut down. I was so angry for getting upset about
I would shut down my account for like a month. Yeah,
I can't go on my personal channels for a little
bit just because I'm on calv Social all the time,
Like i gotta like cut it down because I'll freak out.

(59:01):
Are you ever? We were talking about this, like I
don't use my personal Twitter because I don't like to
go on and I don't like to scroll, like endlessly
scroll because it you have you ever both to something
and you personal on account that you men? No, No,
that is the number one thing that when I stepped
in this role, that was like the number one thing.
They were like, can you handle X, Y and Z

(59:22):
moving twenty four seven all of these like like different
variables that you have to deal with, And I was like, Honestly,
the number one thing I'm most afraid of is that
I'm going to post something that I'm trying to post
on my accounts to Cavs accounts. I mean we're like
the fifth most followed team in the NBA, and so
I mean that's like thirty million plus people. If you
put a picture. No gonna be like anthing. No, people

(59:49):
love that is. I don't think I'm gonna take social
Speaking speaking of trouble, are you the one that busts them? No,
it's not me. Yes, I don't know, it's not me,
I promise. Actually, I don't want to say. I'll see
let's see it rapa tweet. I'll be like, he's gonna
get in trouble. Humor. Not everybody takes my humor. No,

(01:00:11):
it's not usually me. It's not me. But I honestly
the last one, I did it very innocently, I know,
but I thought it was As soon as I saw it,
I thought, dude, that's not right. Why why not? We'll
talk about it off the air. Okay, anyway, but speaking
of getting in trouble, how is All Star weekend in

(01:00:32):
Salt Lake City? Oh? My gosh? Actually it was wildly
calm for an All Star weekend. Yeah. Alcohol had something
to do with it, yeah, probably, honestly probably. Actually that
was the crazy part. Is uh like after games and stuff,
you'd like want to go out to go eat or something,

(01:00:52):
and everything's closed at nine, And I thought, you know, like,
I mean, you kind of anticipate that gown in Salt
Lake and I thought All Star weekend and ba's coming
into town, they'll definitely like readjust and it was not.
It was everything was closed at nine. Yeah. Like every
time I hear that, I was because I mean, I've
just to be honest. I mean, I've gotten in trouble

(01:01:12):
in Salt Lake City way late. So I mean I
I have found the places its way to find that.
That's what I mean. There are places to find trouble.
Like we were at NBA events until like two o'clock
in the morning. You're like working, you know what I mean,
We're not like fun. You didn't like the after parties, Yeah,
anything like that exactly, No, I mean it was it was.
It was really lovely. Like we got up every morning

(01:01:34):
and looked at the mountains and everything. It was um
Like last year was obviously a lot more chaotic because
we were the home team. We had all of our
guys who weren't even in the game, who were still
here like taking part in events, taking part in media,
so you're following them around. We had four guys UM
within different events, five guys, four guys five five UM

(01:01:55):
throughout the weekend and different events and so it was
a lot more or hectic. There were a lot more
hands to shake last year and everything. It's kind of
nice just having two guys you're dedicated to, and it
was kind of like when Evan was done with all
of his things, like Donovan started, so you were never
really overlapping, so you had I don't want to say

(01:02:16):
Evan's the worst guy with media, but Evan's still working
himself out media wiz. You have a person that's great
with media, so that had to become interesting too. Oh yeah,
for sure, because I mean, I mean we're doing well
and so we're in more of a spotlight. There's way
more media surrounding our guys now moving forward, and they
also I just like, I'm always just floored I think

(01:02:41):
at those moments because you also get you get league
fits there, you get complex there, you get like random
accounts that maybe aren't necessarily totally geared toward basketball, so
you get like the weirdest questions that they have to
answer too. And Donovan I feel like, at this point
can like roll those off his shoulder pretty easily, pretty well,
and Evan's like, I'm laughing about It's kind of like, yeah,

(01:03:04):
seventeen magazine. Yeah, Like they asked him, like there's always
one weird journalist that's gonna ask questions. Yeah, they asked
him what his favorite water to drink on the road was,
Like what water bottle? And he was like, you know,
he wanted to say like whatever front of it. Yeah,
Like you know, he was like I don't know, I

(01:03:24):
have no idea what was in the pain? Yeah? What?
Like I love watching Evan deal with media because he's
just how he starts out with it, uh, you know,
like gonna gets him going and then but he's yeah,
he's he's so uh he's still working it out. He's
still just the best. Forget how young he is, right,
he's just kid. We'll talk to the last guy in

(01:03:49):
the room totally yeah, and he'll give you a great
quote on everything. Like that's how well. I got a
good moment with him at his media. Um Jose from
New Orleans came over and he was apparently had made
a bet with event on the sideline um at the
Rising start Get Dinner About Dinner, Yeah, and he like
popped up in Donovan's media and like surprised him. Um,

(01:04:10):
so he was like going down the road and he
did something like that he did that. I was surprised
that there wasn't like a youth of player doing that. Yeah,
I know, Jordan Clarkson or something. But he was him.
He went to wherever he went to, all these press
of als and that's questions like like a media member.
He's so good. He's one of him, beyond the guy
who wonded McClung, who wonted LAMB Dunk Championship. He's the

(01:04:32):
dude that got the most out of the old start,
you know, because more than so, that dude has a
job now in the NBA. When I mean he one
of those pandemic guys that came in. He came in, Yeah,
he came in with a pandemic, with those ten day
contracts whatever, and he still he started. Now, if you
watched him at Georgia Tech, you could tell that kid

(01:04:53):
was gonna be good. I mean, like he hadn't had
that break that most of the most guys need that
are not the superstar. Mean, Danny Green was talking about it.
Mine got hurt. You finally jump in and he's taking
the ball and run with it. Yeah. Absolutely, I have
a question for you about players. Do you, I would say,
manage players accounts. Do you keep an eye on players accounts?
Oh yeah, monitor, it's oh yeah. Donovan is very active

(01:05:16):
on Twitter. Um it's like, obviously we don't know this,
but it seems like a lot of them do kind
of decrease their social use during the season, And I
could imagine it's probably for like mental game, Like I
wouldn't really want to be paying attention to everything that's
going on in that ecosystem at all if I was
trying to be competitive. But Donovan's really active on Twitter,

(01:05:39):
and there will be things that we pull, um, you know,
from their social accounts. I will say, like we do.
We're very adamant about tagging them and everything that we do,
because a lot of times they just use our content.
They'll just reshare everything that we're posting of them. I
would say we're significantly more active than our entire roster
on social I have some videos that I never posted.

(01:06:02):
Remember when we went to Detroit and we walked around
all the places that thenything which I love that was
a music school music factory started rapping with the band
and they got on stage and started going at it.
I didn't understand half the stuff they were saying. Well

(01:06:22):
I'm a little death, so I didn't. I never posted it,
but I still have it. Like they get up there
and started going, you know, like what are the freestyling,
you know, the way they like in the movie the
eight Mile movie where the guy says something and the
other guy picked the microphone and start rapping. And but
I never posted it because I didn't know exactly. Well,
that's part of like all of us. I think probably
everybody in this room has stuff backs, behind the scenes,

(01:06:45):
video cav stuff that we can't post but probably have kept.
So yeah, yeah, I mean I have stuff too that. Yeah,
on game days, my number one job is listening to
every video because there will be like be ready to
post her. I mean it's I've had We've had content
go live and there's just a loud f bomb in

(01:07:06):
the beginning of the video and I'm like, how did
no one catch this? Like what we're doing? So yeah, no,
I have a lot of content. I mean this is
like the boring side of social like we're not allowed
to post um uh like public music, like we have
to pull from a commercial library and so a lot
of times we can't even use stuff even if there's

(01:07:26):
even if it's perfectly mine because there's music in the background,
but they're really even in the background. Yeah, yeah, notices
from Instagram This is funny. Wow a video I posted
of j R. Smith warming up back in the day.
I just got a notice last month that I'm at
it's in violational. I'm like, dude, you're just found out.

(01:07:47):
I have because like they weren't making any money because
they weren't producing anything new during COVID and so then
they just decided to crack down on like verified accounts.
So yeah, my rule of song is when my wife says,
why do you post that, I'm like, Okay, I gotta
take it that you don't have a rule of thumb. Dude,
you know he post everything. I just I swear. Are

(01:08:08):
you get in trouble innocently? I don't do it like
I don't care. Why don't you check with me? Seriously?
Why don't you check with me? And Madison? We'll give you, like,
you know, the best, the best. We'll do, you know
the best, Jimmick Cricket. It's John Michael right that we
were observative. You knew, like he has the rule of
what I'm saying. If you think about it, if you

(01:08:30):
think it might not, then just don't. Okay, I do
have a question for your rafa. So you posted a
photo a little bit ago we were on a where
were we We're on a road trip, I don't know.
And you posted a photo with Jettie and his wife.
Did you get Jettie and his wife? Did you get
followed by a million? And you want to go even fun,

(01:08:54):
even even further. I didn't know she was so popular
with with his Spanish speaking. Oh, I don't know that
I follow By the way, there are thousands of accounts
in the Internet, in social media that all they do
is post pictures of Jetty and oh yeah, yeah, that's
like I tell all of the people who start on

(01:09:14):
our team, I'm like, you were going to get followed
by a million Jetty and Hebrew accounts. Do not answer them,
not damp them back, Like it was like Brangelina. Why
they love her? They love both of them, and but
I didn't know. Now I know why because her soap
operas and her shows are also dubbed into Spanish, and

(01:09:34):
there are so many Latino fans. Yea her and obviously
now Jetty and always you know Jetty, and I always tease.
We always tease about how does he feel to not
be the most famous person at home because they call
them that's funny. Yeah, but she's the nicest human, just
like Jetty. This really cool lady. I can understand why

(01:09:57):
he's so popular. You know. So you're on this next
road trip to bost Lost the direct. How do you
How have you like being on the road and how
often do you travel? Well? I travel probably like one
or two times, one or three times a month, um,
depending on the road trips. Definitely slowed down um as
we've gotten into the season. Um, I was on quite

(01:10:19):
a bit um at the beginning. I enjoy it. It's uh,
it kind of like opens your eyes a lot to
the team. I've always been a fan of the Calves
growing up, cheering for them. Um. I think once you're
actually in it, though, and you realize the schedule they
follow and kind of everything that you go through to
go through all eighty two games in the season, it
just it opens your eyes to a lot, a lot,

(01:10:43):
a lot. You know, what's one of Madazone's dreams, who
go to a Michigan Ohio was taking? Oh my god,
that's not I would lose you so fast, I would
lose you in the crowd. So why are you? Why
are you? I'm a huge Ohio State fans. Okay, yeah, no,
I would never sit next to you. Ever when we
were in we were in Chicago when TCU was playing

(01:11:04):
Michigan and Michigan was just absolutely got crushed and it
was the best thing ever. And Rafa and I were
eating dinner and I was just like, oh my gosh,
Ravas and this is the best game ever, Like, this
is the best game I've ever watched. Make a bet
with him or something like did you have to? In fact,
you did make a bet you lost? Yeah, but they
we never we never did. I have to do that.

(01:11:26):
We have to wear the big spenders if if, if
Michigan have won, you have to do the show wearing
the Michigan I lost. So I have to be the drummer.
And that we haven't had the band. We haven't had
the Ohio State band at the Okay, But I just
recently learned this about you. You like have actually no

(01:11:47):
connections to Michigan. You're just a Michigan fan. I just
which is bizarre. You have no tie to it. You
can't be a part of the Michigan Ohio state rivalry
and not having. But I'm a Michigan I'm a Michigan fan,
and I'm not why I love that the only reason
because it's it's an anti Ohio states enjoy I didn't

(01:12:12):
know I wouldn't enjoy if we were the Michigan Cavaliers.
He'd be the hugest Ohio state here. Oh Madison. He
the round for thank you, which you're so familiar with
because you listen to this show every week. Yes, okay,
we have to start out. We have to thank for
getting us Danny Green. They're always just so money, the

(01:12:33):
PR Department. The PR Department was clutch again like they
always are because you know why. You know why they're
so tight, because they're run by b J Evans. It
runs it with the iron fist. Did you know that
he sure does? He should. That means Jerome Owens, who
doesn't need the iron fist because he's so great. He's
just the best slinging Sammy who could win Rookie of

(01:12:53):
the Year this year. It's believe he's really have to.
I can't believe he's out for rookie. He should be like, no,
he's a rookie he's yeah, but he'd have to mess
it up now for him to lose it. And then
Devin Booker, she's my our Devin Booker, she's my three,
the whole bunch. Really right away, it's Sammy's gonna have
a nice home game on the road because we're going
to Boston. Oh that's right, and he's going, oh yeah,

(01:13:15):
that's trade. He he told me the other day Cheroon
will never see Boston again. We have to thank Ryan
Boo Banks. Do you know Boo? You'd love Boo right? Great?
Isn't she the best? We just yeah, she's she's the best.
Robert J. Hageman, we have to thank him. He does
all the tech. He just sent the long email about
about stuff about probably stuff that I got in trouble for.

(01:13:36):
It's a about external email then something like that. I
wink about our special guests, Danny Green and Madison Phillips. Madison,
thank you so much for joining us. It's just such
an impressive title to take time out. We would tell
us our title again, but we don't have enough time.
We have to thank Joe Richard man Man Richard love

(01:13:58):
that guy. Lucy Varius, the best human being in Cleveland.
You know her, right, I rather even being in a
very huge, huge deal original computer team leader she is
she is, and the second best human. I'm sure you're
gonna agree with this, The second best human maybe in
an even bigger swath, d Mac, would you agree with that?
What are you laughing? What's funny about that? The best

(01:14:23):
come on man, And of course the dynamic duo of
Dirty Kurt and the Beday King, the Day King Today
King Marty Anne he compared to like the plow guy,
like Mike Pelo might be day Guy, He's Aday Guy
Marty Ellen. Hey, we'll see you guys next week because
we're grand Caden's now rough guess we'll see you guys

(01:14:46):
next week. And as always, good night, pretty Mac. Wherever
you are. We're talking about life was about second chance.
You're listening to Wine and Go old radio. Things are
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