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December 17, 2024 • 18 mins
Labs and Tom briefly discuss the Steelers loss to the Eagles and then get into this weeks questions

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is asked and answered questions with Tom Upferman and
Steelers Digest editor Bob Labriola.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Steelers fell to the Eagles this past Sunday, twenty seven
to thirteen. The streak in Philadelphia now extends to eleven
straight losses dating back to nineteen sixty five. It was
a tough game Labs for the Steelers. The Eagles kind
of punched them in the mouth early, but remarkably deep
into that third quarter, the Steelers had a chance to tie,
and then some self inflicted mistakes put the ball in

(00:31):
the Eagles hands for good.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Basically, yeah, the Eagles punched the Steelers in the mouth
earlier and didn't get called for any personal file. That's
true too, And hey, you know, the Eagles are really good.
You know this just into Steelers Nation. I understand, you know,
there might not be the familiarity with a lot of
teams in the NFC because you know, what's kind of

(00:55):
the focus is the AFC, specifically the AFC North. But
you know, if going into the game, I thought that
the Eagles were one of the two best teams in
the league the NFL, not just the NFC, and the

(01:17):
other one being the Detroit Lions. Now, Buffalo went to
Detroit and hung up one hundred and ninety seven yards rushing,
five hundred and fifty nine total net yards forty eight
points that included six touchdowns. Okay, the Lions were twelve
and one and they got smoked in Detroit, so I

(01:40):
guess they stink too. I mean, these teams.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Just accidentally get their way to twelve wins, Labs, it's
all luck.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Must be. But you know, the Eagles are really good.
The Steelers did not play well. They also did not
have George Pickens and Deshaun Elliott and Larry Ogan, but
I mean, you know, that's that's all part of it.
So anyway, I didn't really have a lot of hope

(02:10):
for the Steelers going to Philadelphia and winning because the
Steelers have gone to Philadelphia with teams that went on
to win the Super Bowl and got smoked. So, uh,
you know, Saturday, this it's it's this is what it's about.
I mean, after Saturday, I think we'll know a lot

(02:33):
more about the Steelers than we do right now. You know,
hopefully get some of those players back. Maybe not add
t J. Watt to that injured list, because that certainly
would not be advantageous when you're going against Lamar Jackson. So, uh,

(02:55):
you know we're gonna have to see but Steelers Ravens.
I'm ready. You ready, Oh, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, turn the page completely from this Eagles game. It's
stung in the moment, but.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
You're right, all that matters is this Saturday.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
You beat the Ravens, you win the AFC North, you
break out the hats and the T shirts, and you
get ready for a home game in the playoffs, in
the wild card round. This is this is what matters.
Russell Wilson even said that in the post game after
the Eagles. Yeah, he talked about the game, but then
he was asked, I think about looking forward, and he said,
you know, we want to win the division. That's our
first goal is to win the division. Well, you can
do that this Saturday.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Let me say this too. I mean, not that, but
the Steelers can lose to the Ravens and still win
the division.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
True. Yes, even it's a little more difficult though, let's
not do that one.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh, I understand. I'm just you know, referring to the
mathematical possibilities.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, let's get into this week's batch of questions. Our
first one comes from Joe Schmiling from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
The offense didn't seem to look very good against the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
It seems like without George Pickens, they are not willing
to throw downfield. It seems like they don't try us
the available receivers to make a play. Don't you think
they have to try to throw it downfield? I know
Mike Williams is not Pickens, but he is a big, strong, experience,
contested catch type of receiver.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
You know, the simple act of just throwing the ball
down field will have no positive impact for the offense
if if those throws aren't completed, I mean, the whole
You know, what you're trying to create. The situation you're
trying to create is make the defense respect you know

(04:33):
that that mode of attack, make them make the defense
maybe commit some resources, you know, to defending that area
of the field. But if you're not completing the passes,
they'll just leave one guy out there on that receiver
and that's it. I mean, you know, Joe writes, Mike

(04:55):
Wilson is not George Pickens will die. He's not. And
you know, here's another thing. Russell Wilson is a very
inclusive quarterback in terms of how he approaches distributing the ball.
And if Mike Williams was getting open, Russell Wilson would
be targeting him. So just throwing him the ball. To

(05:16):
throw him the ball when he's not open and you
hope he can make a play. That's how you get
that's how you get it intercepted. And you know, let's
not forget Mike Williams didn't join the team until the
trading deadline, so he hasn't had a lot of repetitions
with the quarterbacks, you know, like the players getting even
back in OTAs you know, during the off season program.

(05:41):
You know, there's there hasn't been a lot of you know,
there was no training camp for Mike Williams, so you
know he's trying to get on board in a last
minute in fashion. And he was a backup with the
Jets and people look at his stats from three years
ago and he had a thousand yard season and they're like, wow,
you know, let's let's this is the guy we're getting. Well,

(06:04):
he's not that guy anymore than Deontay Johnson is the guy.
You know, the Ravens when they acquired him in that
trade or signed him. I don't even know how they
got It doesn't really matter. But you know, you can
look back at Deontay Johnson stats from three or four
years ago too and think, wow, the Ravens really upgraded themselves. Well,

(06:25):
how has that worked out?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
You know now they're mutually agreeing to not participate in
practice this week.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, Calvin Austin's getting open. Throw him the ball. You know, let's.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Another part labs to that and pushing the ball deep
downfield is any time in that pocket. And everybody watching
that game knows that the Eagles were up Russell Wilson's
backside early in a lot of these plays.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Because again, that's a really good team. They were number
one in the league and yards a lot. I think
they were, I don't know, top five to seven, and
passing yards a lot. I mean this is the Eagles
are very, very good. They were playing at home, and
they have the NFL's leading rusher and a couple of

(07:10):
decent receivers too. Have anyone is checked and so yeah
it was it was a loss, but the Eagles are
a good team too.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Laurie Stilmani's from Feasterville, Pennsylvania. I grew up in Philly
and now live in the Philadelphia suburbs and married an
Eagles fan. So the loss to the Eagles was really
difficult to swallow. I'm questioning the penalty against defensive tackle
Montravius Adams for hitting the long snapper on a field
goal attempt when he was blocked into said long snapper.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Do you think in this case it should have been
a penalty?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Okay? The rule is that all contact with the long
snapper while he's you know, doing his thing in the
middle of the line of scrimmage is prohibited all contact.
So I also agree that replays seem to show that
montrevious Adams was blocked into the long snapper Rick Levado.

(08:06):
So this is the way I look at it. You
don't put if you're Montravius Adams, you don't put yourself
in the situation where you can be in position to
be blocked into the long snapper during you know, the
snapping the execution of a field goal attempt. Because it's
gonna be called. They're gonna call it. That's what they do,

(08:29):
that's what they're looking for. That's a point of emphasis.
It's a player safety thing. They're gonna call the penalty. Okay,
and after it's called, I don't care what the situation is.
The league is going to justify the call, So don't
do it. You know, it wasn't a last second field
goal where you either win the game or lose the

(08:50):
game base on whether he makes it. I get that
you want to try to make a play on special teams,
but do not, you know, make sure your rush is
through that guard instead of trying to get through a
gap between the guard and a long snapper. Because he
pushes you to the side, you hit the long snapper,
the flag comes out. That's what it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Thomas Ward from LATS in South Carolina. I heard it
mentioned that coach Mike Tomlin has never won Coach of
the Year. Is my memory correct? That Chuck Noll never
won it either, and he won four Super Bowls? What's
the big deal with Coach of the Year awards?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, this maybe a little known fact, but it is
a fact. Chuck Nole did win a version of the
Coach of the Year award in nineteen eighty nine, and
it was called the Earl Greasy Neil Award. It was
established in nineteen eighty nine and presented by the Maxwell
Football Club to the top head coach in the NFL.
Now that's not the main Coach of the Year award,

(09:52):
that's the Associated Press one, and so Thomas is accurate.
Chuck Nole was never voted Coach of the Year during
the seventies when he won four Super Bowls. Now, I
got to give Mike Pursuit a credit for this. This
is his original idea and I couldn't agree with it more.

(10:14):
The NFL, the AP Coach of the Year award should
be presented at the podium at the end of the
Super Bowl. They give the Lombardi Trophy to the winning owner,
and then they should give the Coach of the Year
award to the winning coach. No voting, nothing. You coach
your team to the winning the Super Bowl, you're the

(10:36):
coach of the year. It's that simple, easy, no voting necessary,
and I think it would clear up a lot of
what I feel is, you know, ridiculousness. You know some
team is expected to be awful and they're a little
bit better than Yeah, coach of the year. Give it

(10:57):
to the guy who wins, you know, wins the trophy.
That I think is it would be fair and appropriate.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Dave Miller from Chadron, Nebraska. It seems the Steelers did
okay in the Dante Jackson for Deontay Johnson trade. Can
you tell me which of those two guys has been
the more prolific pass catcher over the past six weeks.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
That's a funny question, Dave.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well. I like the way he worded it, too prolific
pass catcher and it's it's it's close. But uh, six weeks,
Dante Jackson has had two interceptions, uh six weeks, you know,
one of those in Baltimore included the Ravens bye week
and another when he was suspended for conduct detrimental to

(11:43):
the team. Deyontay Johnson had one reception. So the answer
to the question is Dante Jackson is the more prolific
pass catcher. But and I'm not implying that Dave was
one of these people, but I will tell you that
there was a lot of moaning and groaning about this
trade when it was made originally by Steelers fans. And

(12:04):
I don't think there's anyone now who would go back,
you know, and say let's switch them back.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
No chance.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
And now fast forward to now we're all holding our
breath hoping Dante Jackson's back is okay and that he
can play against the Ravens. That's how far always come
with the trade. Ken Wilson from Milton, Florida, what are
your thoughts on the punter for the twenty twenty five season.
Will there be a competition between Corlis Weightman and Cameron Johnson?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Or is it Weightman's job to lose?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, I'm not an orthopedic surgeon, and I don't
care to play one on as and he answered to
the podcast. But Cameron Johnson sustained a significant injury in
the regular season opener on September the eighth. Okay, So
to me, there's no point in speculating about who will
be the punter in twenty twenty five or how that

(12:55):
is going to be determined in twenty twenty five. Excuse me,
until there's some resolution to Cameron Johnston's status. You know,
for example, when will he be healthy enough to return
to play to punting. I don't know when that is.
So when that happens, let's see where we are then

(13:16):
and then we'll maybe figure this out.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
William heis from Sumter, South Carolina. Why are players listed
on the injury report when they are being rested.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Okay, it's common among fans in the media to refer
to the daily reports the teams are required to file
during the season as injury reports, but in reality those
are practice reports. Okay, that's the specific official NFL name

(13:48):
for them, and what they are designed to do is
declare who misses practice and why. So if you if
a player misses a practice or he's a limited participant
in practice, the NFL requires the team to list a

(14:10):
reason why. So resting a veteran player is a reason
why an individual missed practice and that's why they're on
the practice report.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Matthew Rhodes from Latroe, Pennsylvania. Has there ever been a
year that the Steelers swept all divisional games?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Too much research? You know, division divisional play even before
the the you know, the leagues were the merger, there
were divisions, So you know, I'm not I'm just not
going through that. The Steelers stunk back then anyway, so
there's probably didn't So yeah, probably, I'm sure there were

(14:52):
a lot of years they didn't win any But you know,
it's also necessary to remember that the AFC, the AFC
Central started in nineteen seventy as a four team division
case Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Houston. Okay, Then in nineteen ninety five,

(15:12):
the Jaguars were put into the AFC UH into the
AFC and Dan Rooney said, we'll take him, We'll take
the expansion team in our division. So u then the
AFC Central became a five team division. Then the Browns

(15:33):
moved to Baltimore for the nineteen ninety six season, and
so then that just switched Cleveland to Baltimore in the division. Yeah,
and so then when the Browns, but Jacksonville was still
in the so it's still a five team division.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
So then when the Browns came back in nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
The expansion team version of the Browns.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Right, the expansion Browns were put into the AFC Central,
So it was a six team division. So now you know,
at that point you're playing ten division games, two against
each of the other five teams. So anyway, I do
know this. The Steelers were six to zero in the

(16:18):
AFC Central Division in nineteen seventy five. And here's a
little fun fact about that season. The Steelers were twelve
and two in the regular season. They went on to
win Super Bowl ten. Their second in a row. In
seventy five, the Bengals finished eleven and three, two of
their three losses were to the Steelers. The Oilers in

(16:41):
the AFC Central finished ten and four and two of
their four losses were to the Steelers, and there was
only one wildcard spot in the AFC playoffs at that time.
The Bengals got it, so the Oilers and their ten
and four record stayed home.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm sure fans from that generation still have PTSD dreams
in the middle of the night about the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Not the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Please not the Black and Gold.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Our final question today comes from Roy Parron from Raleigh,
North Carolina. Now that the Pro Bowl is flag football,
what is the pay for the winners and losers of
the game. If I'm not mistaken, and I could be,
Wasn't it a relatively significant amount?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
So the last Pro Bowl played, they refer to it
as the twenty twenty four Pro Bowl, which because of
that's the that's the date when it is played, but
it it's actually at the end of the twenty twenty
three season. So for that Pro Bowl, players on the
winning conference received eighty eight thousand dollars apiece. Players on

(17:46):
the losing conference received forty four thousand dollars apiece. I
know that's not Tom Offerman money, but.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know it's a sneeze at that.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah so but anyway, Yeah, not bad, not bad.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Steelers Ravens On a short week Saturday at four thirty
is when it all goes down at M ANDT Bank Stadium.
Steelers can get the AFC North with a win against Baltimore.
Our local coverage starts at twelve thirty that day, Labs
gets on the air at two thirty, and as I mentioned,
kickoff is at four thirty four. Bob Labrielle on Tom Offerman,

(18:22):
Thanks as always for listening. Get your questions into Labs
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