3 Feet From a Sasquatch! - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 509

8 years ago, Jack Adams and his wife, Becky, had an experience neither of them will ever forget, about 10 miles east of Ponca City, Oklahoma, at Jack’s father-in-law’s property. They didn’t see a Sasquatch that night, but it most likely was a Sasquatch. It would also seem that the experience they had was a prelude for what was to come. You see, Jack, his son, Jason, and Jason’s fiancé, Pierce, have all had class A Sasquatch sightings since the night Jack and Becky had their experience. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to them share their experiences.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
My name is Jack Adams and my wife's name is
Becky Adams. We pastor a church in Ponca City, Oklahoma,
and we've been pastoring for, oh my goodness, thirty some years.
I've been a preacher for about forty and I have
seven wonderful children. I got one of my children here, Jason,

(00:35):
with me and his fiance Piers. My wife couldn't make
it tonight, but she gave me the okay to tell
her part of this, and I just want to turn
it over and let Jason tell you a little bit
about himself.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hello. My name is Jason Adams. I am eighteen, and
I really just wanted to talk about my signing. To
be honest, there's none really else do it. Hi.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'm Krisjanson. I'm just now getting into all the Bigfoot stuff,
so I just wanted to glad people now what we saw.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, I want to start off with the encounter that
my wife and I had. We lived in Ponca City, Oklahoma,
which is a town of about twenty three twenty four
thousand people. My father in law lives east of Ponca City,
about ten miles out near the Arkansas River, and there's

(01:39):
a creek right off of the Arkansas River named Charlie Creek,
which is across the highway from his house. What had
happened that night, about oh about eight years ago, I
believe it was my wife's mother had passed on and
the family had were gathering at the house and we

(02:01):
were waiting on the mortician. Well, when my wife and
I pulled up, it was about eleven twelve o'clock at night,
and the cattle across the street or across the highway,
we're just going nuts and they were bellowing and mooing
and stuff. And then the coyotes were just going crazy

(02:22):
over there, and I told my wife, as that is
not normal. Well, we went into the house and everything
and paid our respects. The family went out on the porch,
and it was pitch dark out there, because it's right
at the edge of town, kind of out in the
country a little bit, and it's pitch dark except for
the light on her dad's front porch. And about this time,

(02:47):
we start hearing these loud whoops across that highway over
around Charlie Creek where the cattle are bellowing and the
coyotes were going crazy, and these whoops just kept it up.
Pretty soon a whip begin to answer behind us in
the field way probably I would say probably about one

(03:09):
hundred yards two hundred yards back we could hear a
whoop and they would answer back and forth. Well, for
some weird reason, and we don't know why, my wife
and I decided that we wanted to walk out toward
the highway. And as we walked out toward the highway,
I begin to hear over my shoulder up high. I

(03:32):
could hear this breathing and it sounded like breathing in
the back of your throat, but it was huge. You
could tell it was big. Well, I was going to
say something to my wife, but I decided, I'm not
going to say anything, because I'll ask her when we leave,
because I want to find out if I'm going crazier,

(03:53):
whether I'm really hereing this. And so whenever we got
out there, we begin to go back, or we got
to the porch, we got out there.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
We got out there toward the highway. My wife suddenly says,
I think we need to go back, and so we
turned around and it's pitch dark. We can't see her
hand in front of her face except for the light
on the porch. So we start going back towards the house.
We get to the house and Less, which is Becky's dad, says, oh,

(04:25):
that's just that bigfoot. Because some kids were getting nervous
and upset. And about that time, Grandpa starts talking to
the kids and he's saying, it's just that bigfoot. We
hear it all the time and stuff, and it went
on well. When the kids kind of got out of
the way, Les said, I've lived on this river for
eighty years. I've camped out on that Charlie Creek. I've

(04:48):
been here and I've never heard anything like that. He said,
I've never heard anything like that. And so my wife's
sister turned this call into the Oklahoma Foot Research and
they said, yes, we've heard sightings out in that area.
We've had sightings and heard calls come in in that area.

(05:09):
So anyway, when we got ready to go, I told
my wife, I said, when we were walking out there,
why did you decide to turn back, and she said,
I just felt inside I heard this voice just say
you need to go back, you need to go back now.
And she said, I just thought, okay. So I turned
back and said, but then I heard Jack. I heard

(05:32):
over my shoulder up hieh. I heard this breathing like
it's in the back of your throat breathing. And Vic,
I don't understand this. But when we turned around, we
didn't see anything, we didn't hear anything, we couldn't smell anything.
But we both heard that throat breathing and it was

(05:53):
a pie above us. And when we turned around, we
didn't see anything. It was just gone. So that was
just weird. Well, then we get ready and we go home,
you know, and that her father in law. For the
next probably month or two, he has these encounters where

(06:13):
this thing comes up and it's whooping and he can
hear it. And he said that there was a big
deer that got hit and it kind of staggered over
and died in the field right next to him. And
he said, I was getting ready to go to church,
and he said, I looked out there and I saw
that deer and I thought, tomorrow morning, I got to

(06:35):
get that deer out of here. That thing's going to stink.
I got to drag it out in the field somewhere
or something. And he said, that night I heard the
coyotes and he said that was outside the window. And
said I could hear them like they were fighting something.
And he said, every once in a while you would
hear a whelp, like they got hit and stuff. He said,
I said, did you look out the window and he

(06:56):
said no, I didn't look out the window. He said,
those whatever it was, was outside the window. He said,
I got up the next morning, Jack, and he said
that deer was gone. Now her dad is a hunter
and a fisherman. He said, whatever, however that deer left.
Said something picked that deer up and had to have
carried it off because there were no drag marks. There

(07:18):
was nothing like an animal like a coyote or something
dragging on it pulling it away. He said, it took
the whole deer and just took it off. Well down
the road from her dad is a mobile home and
the man at the mobile home said that he was

(07:40):
hearing those whoops during this month time and he said,
this thing come up and whipped the side of that
mobile home and said, it just shook the whole mobile home.
And he said, I went out and looked and said,
I didn't see anything. Well, this type of activity happened
for probably about a month, maybe two months, and then

(08:01):
it just kind of quit. So we didn't hear anything
about that later on for quite a wall. So then
my wife and I had that first encounter, and then
I took my son, Jason, and it was probably what
about two years.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Later, a year later, yeah, probably about.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
A year and a half later. And so we went
out and we decided we'd go fishing on the Arkansas River,
and so we went to the dam and we went
down at the base of the dam and went down
on the sandbar and we fished. Oh, we fished to
probably twelve one o'clock in the morning. And I told him,

(08:46):
I said, son, I said, about time to go in.
We've got to get our stuff together. Well, you know,
we gathered all of our stuff and everything, and this
is where Jason had his first encounter. And I want
him to go into detail, and I want him to
describe what he saw, because what happened with me is

(09:07):
he come running across the parking lots screaming, and this
is a kid that is not scared of anything. But
I'll let him tell about it.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
So what had happened was after he had told me,
come on, let's pack our stuff up, and we were
walking off. He went to the car and I told him, Hey,
give me a minute, Pierce, just call me. And this
is before we got engaged or anything. We just got together. So,
you know, me being a kid, I was like, oh,
I got to do this is important. So I called
her and I started wandering around and they'd cut it

(09:36):
down now, but there used to be really really tall brush.
And I mean, I mean I'm six foot and I
bet you if I was over there right now, it's
still be about twice as tall as me. I mean
it was tall. And you know, I was walking around
and I just hear some rustling, and you know, we're
out there at the damn So I'm just thinking, oh,
maybe it's just you know, a little fox, or it's

(09:57):
a you know, a little cat or something, you know
what I'm saying. And like, I'm not really worried about
it until I start like hearing things and it's like, yo,
that's a lot bigger than a cat just moving. So
I started walking towards it. I don't know why, but
I started walking towards it, and I just I just
like start moving closer to where I'm like maybe like

(10:19):
five six feet from whatever's up in there. I'm sitting
here waiting and I just start looking, and it's dark,
so it's hard for me to see. So I said,
hold on, give me one second. So I went on
mute and turn on my flashlight and like put my
arm out. And when I put my arm out, I
saw like fur and then I and then I start
looking like up and I just like like looked up

(10:41):
and I just saw more furs. So I was like, okay,
what is this? So I went up there and I
like stuck my hand a little bit inside the brush,
just a tiny bit, and just moved it and I
just looked up and that's all I saw. I just
looked up and it was fur, and then there was
just it was hard to see what exactly he looked like,
but he would tall and he was big. He had
no neck. He was just stalky tall, big like carmels,

(11:07):
brown fur, and man, whenever I'd tell you like I was,
I was terrified, like I didn't know what it was.
I didn't know if it was just some tall person
in a costume or if it was just something that
that mankind is made or something. I don't know it was.

(11:31):
It was big, it was terrifying. I didn't know what
it was. I didn't know what it was doing there,
and it was it was breathing, so it was a
life and so I'd run back and I was freaking
out and stuff. And whenever I had ran back freaking
out and stuff, he was like, Hey, what's going on.
What's going on? And I was like, there's something over
there and he was like okay. So I'd ran back

(11:51):
over there, you know, to make sure that was still there.
And I was sitting here and I was like hearing things,
like I don't know if it was trying to tall
or what he was doing. I was hearing things, and
I was like trying to talk to it back. I
was like hello, just saying hello, like you know, maybe
it's somebody that can talk or something, you know. And
then my dad came over there, and we're like what's up.

(12:12):
And I was like trying to tell him, like, hey,
there's something over there, and he was like okay. So
and by the time he got over there. I don't
I don't know if he saw anything. But by the
time he got over there, that's that's for. Yeah, I
don't know if he saw anything from there. Yeah, he
said he didn't see anything from there, But that's I
was like maybe three or four feet away from him,
and I did not know what it was. And I

(12:34):
freaked out and we went back to the car and
left and went home, and I I don't know how
I feel being around him that close, knowing how people
say that they're big, and you know, some people are like, oh,
it's not that big. It's not that big. I mean, like,
I'm that's a big creature. That's a big sasquatch. That's

(12:59):
something that I don't ever want to see again. It
was terrifying.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, he he was so terrified. I'd try to get
him to talk to me a few times and I'd say, Jason,
tell me, tell me what he looked like, and he'd say,
I just I don't want to talk about it, Dad,
I don't want to talk about it. And it took
probably a month before he would even begin to talk
to me about it, and he said it was making

(13:24):
some kind of an attempt to talk to him he said,
but I couldn't understand what he was saying, and it
was it was pretty scary to him because he came
running across the parking lot and he was he was horrified.
He said, start the car, Start the car, and he
called it a monster. He said, there's a monster over there.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
So, what do you think is that pretty accurate?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah. And so.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
After that, after that encounter, uh, probably what hunt Probably
about two months later, a month later, you and I
went driving, what do you think so piercing? Huh?

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Only a three months after that, honestly.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
About three months after that. Yeah, we went driving and
I said, hey, let's go down there where uh Jason
had that siding, and it was probably what ten thirty.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, it was like ten thirty eleven clank.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, And we were just horsing around, driving, you know,
and we get out there and I am I'm just
I'm messing with her. I'm saying, come on, says what
show yourself, Come on, we want to see you. Come on,
show yourself. And we we go down this road and
I'm going to turn it to her in just second.

(14:49):
She goes, Dad, this is kind of a its kind
of a creepy little road, and I said, yeah, it is,
but I said, let's go on down there and I'll
show you where we've seen it.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
We were like driving slow. I say, like at first when
we first got onto the street, it was like like
maybe fifteen miles an hour or so, and we went
around the bank and we were trying to spot where
the tall grass Jason was talking about was. So we

(15:21):
had slowed down to like ten miles an hour and
we're just like watching the spot or whatever. We went
through the parking line at this like at the dam
or whatever, and we had gone to like as we
were going to turn around and go back because we
hadn't seen anything, and right on the side there was
like a little guard rail with a bunch of rocks

(15:43):
behind it and stuff like that that goes down to
where the water is. And we had sworn that we
had seen something, but we weren't like one hundred percent
shirt until we had looked away for one second and
looked back and it wasn't there. But it was like
like gray and black, like it wasn't like the sasquatches

(16:06):
that everybody else talks about, like dark brown or anything.
It looked like he was like bledding in with the rocks.
He was huddled over like as if he was trying
to hide behind the guard rail, like the part. Really
all we can see was like his neck, his back,
and like the side of his arm, and he was
like one shoulder blade was as big as boulder. I

(16:28):
mean like he was just he was humongous, and he
had a like we had a feeling of like fear
of like we need to get out of here, like
right now, or we won't make it out of here.
At least I know I did. And by the time
that we had seen it rolled, I went down to
look at it. We looked at each other and was like,

(16:51):
that looks like a that looks like a sasquatch. We
had looked back at it, looked back to see it,
and it was gone. And we were like, what four
feet away from a dad?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, four five foot Yeah, were like.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Four or five foot away from me. So there was
nowhere or no way, no how that it could have
gone anywhere. And by the time that we had droven all,
we had decided one hundred percent that I would have
been a sausage.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
She was pretty terrified, and I remember going up there,
and as we made that turn, I wanted to capture
everything I could not vic I don't understand this. I
had my cell phone sitting right there, but I didn't
think to pick it up. But as we drove by,

(17:37):
my heart began to beat really hard. I mean, I'm
a I'm a pastor. I've cast devils out of people,
and I've seen some pretty freaky junk. But you know
this thing, I wasn't scared that it was going to
kill me, but I was grateful that it was hiding.
But it was like it was trying to make itself

(17:57):
into a little ball or something like a little kid
would do. But it's because you could see it. I
could see his shoulders and he was huge. Our headlights
come across him, and I'll bet you that he was
probably four foot wide, and I remember his shoulders being
round like bowling balls. And I could see the back

(18:19):
of his head and it was a coneal head. But
it didn't it didn't have a neck, you know, like
a gorilla would have a neck, it didn't have It
has a little neck, but this thing didn't have a neck.
It was like a head stuck to the body. And
I could yeah, big old long, She's said, long shoulder

(18:40):
blades and long shoulders. It was wide and I could
see its hands. I could see one hand and it
had it curled up and I could see it resting
on its thigh between the guardrails. But its hand looked
like something like the Incredible Hulk's hand.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
His thinker were bigger than sausage wings.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, his fingers were huge, and his hand was monstrous,
you know, it was like oversized to the body would be.
And you could just I mean.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
He was huge.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
He was just scary, but he was like it was
almost like a little kid trying to hide, and there
was no way he was going to hide behind that.
And so we went. When we passed, we had to
look away because we had to make that turn. And
when we look back, he was gone. And pair said
that feeling did not shake. She was kind of worked up,

(19:38):
and I was excited, but she was kind of worked up.
And then let's see, we did that, and then about
I'm probably probably a month later, we decided to go
down there to the river again, to the same place.
And we're down there and we're fishing because we liked

(19:59):
to fish late it that's when like the catfish and
stuff come out around here, and we were catching lots
of really good sized fish and people that there was
a couple that were down the river from us, and
they left and it was probably like, oh my god, probably.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
About it was like two or three o'clock at night.
It was late.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, it was late. And so this is where it
gets like really even freakier Terravon and we've got you
know it, I'm trying to picture when you go down
to the sandbar. You got to go down these.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Little narrow roads off of the place where you park,
and you go down these little narrow paths to get
to the sandbar, and there's trees about probably fifty to
eighty feet back. You know, as you go down there,
to your left, there's trees and a bunch of trees

(20:59):
in there, and then your river will set to your right. Well,
we go down there and we're setting up and we're fishing,
and it's time to go. But I just have this
weird feeling. I have a weird feeling that you know,
we're just being watched. But I didn't think nothing of
it and everything. I just thought it just feels weird.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
And so it's about time to go home, and I
pack up, and we have to make two or three
trips because we take a lot of rods and reels.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Well we take.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
We get ready to pack up, and I start up
the little sand bar, I start up the little paths,
and I can hear in the trees. I can hear cracking.
I can hear cracking like feet walking on branches, and
I could hear I could hear this huffing like uh

(21:55):
oh like that. I can hear huffing like that, because
it just sounded like it was following me. It was
pacing me, and it paced me up to the car.
And then Pierce goes down or Pierce is coming up.

(22:16):
I'm gonna pass the mic around here just a second
and we're gonna take turns. But Pierce is coming up.
I'm setting up at the car. I've heard these huffs,
I've heard this this pace and Pierce, what.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Did you hear?

Speaker 4 (22:30):
I was heading back up to the car to carry
all the fishing stuff in because it was getting dark
and it was being cold, and we were the only
people out there. So you know, Jason had got all
his big o catches in and it was time to
round up. Well, I was heading back up there and
it sounded as if there was like branches snapping and

(22:51):
like leaves crumbling behind me, and wait, like, well, part
of that doesn't match up is I was walking on
this sand bank, so there's no possible way for there
to be to be branches or leaves that I'm stepping on.
It's nothing but sand. There's not any branches or leaves

(23:12):
unless you go up the hill where the grass and
the trees and everything aren't. Well, I'm walking and I'm
carrying my stuff in, and the steps that are being made,
like crunching leaves and twigs and sticks, sticks snapping, aren't
matching up with my footsteps. And nobody else is walking.
Jason's still down there and Dad's at the car, so

(23:33):
I know that something's going on. It's not matching up.
So I took a step differently than what I had
been and I heard the step whenever I wasn't walking, and.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
It stopped.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
And then I walked a little bit more and completely quit,
and it did it again, and then it just like
there was a like as if he knew that I
had caught him. I don't know, he was like, I
don't know if he was walking No long the same
side that I wasn't watching me. If he was following me,
I'm not quite sure, but he was trying to match
my steps and I misstepped him. I like misstepped him

(24:11):
and he had stopped.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, I'm sitting up with the car. She comes up
and Jason's not with her, and I said, well, Hon,
I'll help you go get this stuff, and she goes no,
Dad said I'll go getting So she goes down there
to get Jason, and Jason is like laying on the
river bank and I'm going to turn it over to Jason. Jason,

(24:34):
tell us what happened when Pierce came up.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Okay, so what had happened was whenever she had came back,
I was laying down, like just laying down flat, still
laying down on my back. And it was because I
didn't feel good all of the sudden, just all of
a sudden, just didn't feel good. I was fine throughout

(24:59):
the whole night, throughout the whole day, past week, past month, everything.
I haven't been sick nothing, and I felt great, and
all of a sudden, I just felt really, really, really
really ill. I tried to pick some of stuff up
so that we could get up to the car quicker,
so we didn't have to take as much time, and

(25:19):
I got about three four steps in and ended up
dropping it and I couldn't. But the rundown before that
was we had whenever we were catching fish, we had
cut up some fish and through the hedge and stuff
in the water to get some flakes. We eat some fish.

(25:41):
As they said, when everybody was walking back up, they
took the flash line everything with them. So I was
sitting down there by myself, and by the time that
she was walking up there is about the time where
I started feeling a little bit sick, so I get
all I was. I was sitting down in my chair
and then I folded on my chair and everything and
laid down because I just I just felt sick. I

(26:02):
feel like I was finna throw up. I felt weak.
I felt like I was dying. I felt like I
was dying. And I don't know why. It's just something
upon me just felt like I needed to look backwards.
I don't know, because I'm on the sandbank and maybe
about hind feet from me is the first patch of
grass to start entering, like the grassy area, And so
whenever I turned around and look behind me, I'm still

(26:24):
laying down, so I didn't really turn around. I just
lifted my head to where I'm looking behind me, and
I'm looking upside down, and I just see something standing
there about fifty feet away from me, just standing there,
and I was like confused, like looking around me, like
everybody's still up there. I see the flashlight, she's still
up there. I see my dad's car on and I
could see inside the car he's still in there. Everybody

(26:44):
else around us left, so I was the only one
down there, so I was like, who's down here with me?
So that's whenever I had flipped my body and stood up.
But before I've done that, was in there staring at him.
I slowly moved a staring at him, and this thing
fifty feet away from me looked ten foot tall easily.

(27:07):
It looked massive. We had again, it looks ten foot
tall easily, about fifty feet away from me, and man,
this thing, it's shape. I don't know if you know
what knights looked like back in the old days, whenever
they had the chain link armor that went down their
neck and stuff went onto their shoulders. But kind of
like that. It was kind of like that, like my

(27:28):
dad had said, like his head was just placed on
his body. He had no neck. It was just all
formed together. There was no neck. It's just head and body.
But he had looked like he'd look like a bodybuilder.
How big he was. He looked like Larry Wheels, if
you know who that is, like, he looked massive. And

(27:49):
I was I'd gotten up. And by that time I
had gotten up, he was gone. And I didn't hesitate
to grab my stuff, and I'd grabbed this stuff, and
that's whenever I was trying to carry my stuff. And
I cary about three or four feet and I sat
down there and in my head and what was more

(28:09):
terrifying for me is because I felt like I was dying.
And in my head, I said, I'm I said, I'm
gonna die. I said, either he's gonna take me or
I'm gonna die right now, like there's they need to
come down here, or he's gonna take me. And I
was terrified. I thought that I was going to be
drug away. I didn't feel like I had the power

(28:30):
to fight back. I didn't have a fight or flight
then have adrenaline. I was weak. And they came down
there and she had asked me was like, why are
you laying down? Like are you okay? What's going on?
And I told her, I was like, we need to
get out of here right now. But I can't pick
this stuff up. And you know, I'm I'm mean sometimes
so whenever we're going down fishing, sometimes I just make

(28:50):
up stuff. So I got to carry much stuff. So
she was looking at me and was like, you're joking,
like come on, you got this. You told me that
you wouldn't. And I was telling and here like I
cannot get up, like I am weak and I can't,
Like I was stuttering, and I was scared because of
what was going on, and I was trying to explain
the fact that I don't have no power in my

(29:12):
body and I feel like I'm dying. And she eventually
was just like all right, whatever and carried the stuff. Well,
we eventually got up there and I sat down in
the car and was just sitting there. And by the
time I got in the car and sat down for
about five ten minutes in the car and we were
driving away, I started feeling a little bit better. And
by the time I started feeling a little bit better,
that's when I told him everything that was going on.

(29:36):
I mean, the fact that something like that can be
in your presence and manipulate the mind and stuff like
that to make it feel sick or anything like that
is incredibly dangerous and terrifying. And I truthfully believe that
the only reason why we've seen him as much is

(29:56):
because I grew up as kid fishing down there, and
he's probably been around. And I only think that he
was around me at the time because we cut the
fish heads up, and I think he was trying to
go down to the bank and getting something to eat,
And since everybody took the light and stuff and I
was laying down, he didn't see me up until I
moved and got up. I believe that he wasn't trying

(30:21):
to cause any harm. He just wanted something to eat.
But I also did not want to take the chance,
because what in God's green earth can turn someone that's
feeling perfectly fine into somebody that and to somebody that
cannot even get up or move or do anything that

(30:42):
they're that they just were doing, you know what I mean.
It it was just mind blowing.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
I forgot to mention that from the time we had
gotten out there to the time that we were driving away.
We had felt like we were being watched the entire time,
like there was something there and it didn't feel like
a person. And then it didn't feel like an animal.
It felt like a presence, like a how when I
put it, it just it felt inhuman. It didn't feel right.

(31:14):
It felt like as if we were being watched and
like something new we were there and wasn't happy with it.
And it went all the way from like I had said,
when we had gotten there's when we had left.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I think that maybe this thing has was around
us so much because we fished down there a lot.
I really don't know, you know, but I just, I mean,
I thank God for these experiences because I think they're cool.
I don't know what in the world SASQUATCHI is, but

(31:50):
I know he's real. We've seen him, you know. I mean,
we've seen him up close and personal. And you know,
I worked around a bunch of cops and my secular job,
and there's a police officer on my job and he
believes it too. He goes on Sasquatch expeditions and here

(32:12):
in Oklahoma, and he's had things drop out of trees
behind him where he's grabbed his gun, you know, and
he's he's a guy that will walk into anything. But
he said, man, he said, I've seen him. I've heard him.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
We had a Native man here in Ponka and he
dialed nine one one and gave a call that was horrifying.
I mean, he was one of the guys that just
did not like cops. But he called and said, there's
a Sasquatch here. Said my daughter and I were walking

(32:48):
around the trail and said, uh, you know, you've got
to get out here. Said you need to burn guns
and get out here now. And they said, well, he said,
will you be there? And he said no. He said,
I'm getting in the car and I'm leaping, you know.
I mean, this man was horrified. And there's been sightings
around around poking around this area, you know. So I

(33:11):
don't know, Vic. I just thank God that we've had
these sightings, and I hope we have more, you know.
I don't want to be at the end of his wrath,
you know, but I do hope that we get to
see more and we get to understand these things better.
You guys have anything.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Else, No, I'm just glad that every time I saw him,
he was probably having a good day and something not
to take me in the woods with him.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, it definitely is. And I don't think you're done
by a long shot. Having experiences. Seems like you're definitely
on their radar. So if that's the case, who knows
what's next. It's just a matter of time, probably, Jack.
You started to walk towards the highway the night when
you and your wife heard those whoops. But did he

(34:02):
have any fear whatsoever regarding what you're going to find?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know? I didn't. I mean I just didn't because,
and I think because I knew that that was out
by the highway and the whoops were way back and
behind us. And even whenever we heard we both heard
that breathing, you know, and talked about it afterwards, whenever

(34:29):
we hadn't even mentioned it to each other. You know,
I didn't feel weird, didn't feel scared about it or anything.
You know, I just thought that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Amazing. Doesn't do it enough justice? Yeah, Yeah, truly incredible. Jason,
were you interested in Sasquatch at all before that night?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Really? Honestly, I didn't know much about it, you know,
before that night, Dad always talked about what had happened
to our grandma died. You know, I was too young,
so they spared me the pain of going to see
my grandpa, my grandpa grandma while she was dying. But
they'd always told me about that. You know. My dad
would always play with me and scare me. You know,

(35:13):
whenever we'd be out hiking or something, he'd bring a
in that during night, bring a log against the trigger
and star wooman not tell Dad to be quiet, be quiet,
He's gonna come and give me quiet. And they'd always
sit there and try to scare me. So I really
didn't have an interest for him, really, Yeah, until that night.
You know, he was just terrifying, you know. But I

(35:39):
keep seeing them so much. I mean, I'm gonna end
up giving him a name something at some point.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yes, it's probably a matter of time for you to
do that, I understand.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, name him Sassy Sassy the Sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, that's as good as any other name. So why not?
Oh yeah, pure is obvious that you're interested in Sasqua now,
but were you interested in them fre you had that
first experience.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
I honestly had no clue about him. I had never
heard stories about him, and the things that I did
hear I thought were just a big phony. I mean,
I was in full belief that it was it was
a fluke, it wasn't real. I was full of anti
sass words. I was full non believer. And it took

(36:27):
me the second time of seeing him to really really.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Really believe that it was real.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I mean he put power over me thinking that, like,
I needed to get out of there. Write then and
they're like, oh, I wasn't going to make it out.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well. I always tell people to listen to their instincts.
I'm glad you do that. Thank goodness, Jack. When you
and your wife heard that breathing behind you in up
high but you couldn't see anything when you turned around
and looked, was there a cover close by that a
sasquatch could have been hiding behind making that noise? And
that explains away how it could have been making that

(37:05):
noise but you couldn't see it.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah. No, this uh this uh. Father in laws owns
about five acres and the house sets, oh, probably two
hundred feet to three hundred feet from the highway, and
he always keeps it cut pretty good, you know, and
everything around there and there's no there's trees back in

(37:30):
the back, you know, down behind the house, but they're oh,
they're probably you know, I don't know, quite a waste
back there. And but whenever we were walking out toward
the highway, there's no there's no nothing for him behind around,
you know. And the only light out there was the

(37:53):
light from their porch. And they have a like an
L shaped You ever see those L shaped front porches,
Well they have that, and so they were sitting on
like the L part and we were coming down the
long part of the al we were walking past that
out to the highway, so it could have been in

(38:19):
the shadows and following us. But what really freaks me
out is how come I didn't hear footsteps and we
both heard the heavy throat type breathing, and it was
up above us. My wife stands about five foot ten almost,

(38:40):
and I'm about five six and a half, but you know,
it was above her. And so when we turned around,
it was pitch dark. I mean, you couldn't see hardly
your hand in front of your face. But it seems like,
why didn't we hear Why didn't we hear anything? Why
didn't we hear the grass moving. You know, that was
what was freaky to me. That's things I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, a lot of strange elements to that experience, there
really were. And with that in mind, do you think
sasquatch just might be spiritual beings?

Speaker 6 (39:13):
You know?

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I believe that. I believe he could very well be.
I mean, you know, I've back and I we passed
through a church, We've cast out devils, We've seen some
weird stuff. We've been in houses where things moved and
things growled, you know, and there wasn't nothing there been
in a house where things have flown off the shelf

(39:36):
and we prayed over the house. So, I mean, I've
seen weird and demonic stuff. But I do think even
if he's flesh and blood, there is a spiritual part
to him. Somehow. I don't understand it all, but you know,
I do believe that.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, there's so many incredible people such as yourselves report
them doing so many things that you just can't explain
away by them being flesh and blood creatures. I think
there's got to be some there there. I really do. Jason,
when you had that experience at the DM, you walked
towards a strange sound there and found yourself face to

(40:16):
face with that sasquatch. Being that close to it, though,
you must have seen its face pretty well, and with
that in mind, what kind of an expression did it
have on its face?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Okay, so so it was kind of hat It was
kind of hard to see. Like I said, it was
dark and he was kind of of a dark color.
But the expression that I could see it wasn't It
wasn't a happy or a mad face. It was more
of like a like a Shrek like, what are you
doing in my swamp? Like, what are you doing in

(40:50):
my face? Type of look, like mind your business type
of look. Yeah, like it's surprised that I walked up
to it and that I just looked at it. He
looked flabbergasted. He looked like I just caught him doing
something that he shouldn't have been doing, is what he
looked like. And his eyes were just his eyes weren't
that big. Actually, his eyes weren't like how big his

(41:14):
body would be. His eyes kind of looked just a
little bit, just a little bit bigger than just normal
human eyes, maybe like a cougar, how their eyes are
a little bit bigger than ours. Maybe just like that,
you know. And also I also wanted to add about

(41:36):
the spirit spiritual stuff and stuff like that about about him.
I truthfully believe that Bigfoot is an evolved type of
a ringu tank for the fact being that orangu tangs
have long arms and long legs, and they have enough
strength in their body to walk on both feet. They

(41:58):
do walk on both feet and use their arms and bang.
They do bang on things and do stuff to like
coconuts and stuff to bang trees and to pull them down,
and they like to make noise. I feel like he's
a type of evolved orangutang or something that is I

(42:19):
don't know, maybe maybe like a capture gone wrong, like
an orangutang mixed with something like a gorilla or something,
you know, to get it the bigger feature in the
shorter and not so lengthy and stuff. I really truthfully
believe that he's just a type of type of ape
that never has been discovered looked into. I mean, we've

(42:41):
had the whole ocean has to have been explored. I mean,
how do we know that for sure, for sure, that
this whole world has been explored, every last bit of it.
Every time we've been something somewhere. Everything else can move,
so we might have he might've just been here. We
might not know.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Well, I'm sure it's not lost in you that a
lot of experts, quote unquote experts, scientists, I guess you
could say, who look into the sasquatch phenomenon, A lot
of them believe that sasquatch or just a kind of gigantopithecus,
and gigantopithecus they looked a lot like a giants orangutan,
So maybe there is something to that. It's really hard

(43:17):
to say. Being so close, though, did you feel any
kind of a gravity coming from it?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Being right there towards him? I felt kind of like,
uh like for first this, let me I'm just gonna
say something about the smell. The smell was not good
at all. It kind of smells like just you had
you had dumped three dead bodies into a trash can

(43:47):
that him rot for months like it smelled like he
like he rolled in it. Like it didn't. He didn't
smell good. And like I obviously I didn't touch him
or nothing. Now I was terrified and I I froze
for a second then ran. But it's kind of his
hair looked kind of like nappy like it wasn't. It

(44:09):
wasn't like I don't know, normal hair on like a
gorilla or anything like that, were it's all stiff and
stuff like that where it lays down it's kind of
stiff and just on their head to pokes up and stuff. Nah,
it was all sticking out and it was just nappy,
just very very nappy looking and just kind of curls

(44:30):
and stuff. But the energy coming from him was kind of, uh,
a negative type of energy. It was a don't mess
It was don't mess with me type of energy, like
like it's just it's just them them by themselves, kind
of like a trot. It was kind of like a

(44:50):
we don't need you type of energy, like I needed
to walk away like now before something happened.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
I'm sure he really was wondering why you approached him
the w you did, because very few people would have
had the nerve to do that. You don't frighten easily,
that's a given. Piers. How much of you and Jason
talked about that sighting in? Are you kind of frustrated
that you weren't right there with him when all that happened.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
I mean, it frustiates me that I wasn't down there
to help him, but I would not have. I'm not
a fan of the Sasquads. I may have had sightings
and I may believe in him, but that does not
mean that I am a fan because he's terrifying. He's

(45:37):
definitely left a mark on my views on him. So
I'm not cold shoulders about not being down there with him,
but I definitely was. It kind of pushed off in
me because I wasn't down there to help him, because
Lord knows what could have happened down there.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
It was in total control. Whatever it wanted to have
happened did and what it didn't want to have happened
didn't happen. So yeah, I don't really think he was
in all that much danger. I'm not going to say
these guys are safe to be around, but if wanted
to hurt him, it definitely could even it would have,
So please never lose sight of that fact. Now, about

(46:20):
three months later, when you and Jason went back to
the dam, how doubtful were you that anything was going
to happen that.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Time, besides the fact of us feeling watched. I was
a one hundred percent doubt. They didn't think anything was
going to happen because we are down there all the time.
But the uneasy feeling that we had that we were
being watched by some inhumane, inhumane creature or being that

(46:48):
was clearly letting it be know night, he knew we
were there and he wasn't happy with it made me
have a thought that it was him, But we definitely
doubted it long enough for him to get upset.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Well, you know it is Pierson, never expect anything to happen.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Until it does, agreed.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, funny how that works. Now, as you Jack and
Jason were cruising through the DMS parking a lot, you
said that you saw that sasquatch, But how far was
it from the car? And you think it was the
same one that Jason saw.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
I believe that there was a lot. I feel like
there's multiple families out there. There's not just one. There's
no way, because the one I saw was like gray
and black and white like he had wiry hair like.
I don't believe that it was the same one. And

(47:48):
we were probably about three or four three or or
four feet away from him.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah, that's way too close for comfort. It definitely is.
I don't care what your beliefs are about these guys.
If you're that close, and that's normally gonna make your
hackles stand up. Absolutely, yeah, definitely, Jason, you told us
about how you felt so weak when you had your
most recent sighting. Before you felt that way, though, did

(48:15):
you ever feel any strange sensations, like a kind of vibration.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
No, honestly, I.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Know.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
I know that, Okay, So I have paranoia very bad.
I feel like I'm being watched sometimes and most of
the time I am. Whenever I feel like I'm being watched,
I don't know, it's it's weird. But you know, everybody
had left that night, I mean, everybody on the other
side of the damns is how they were on and
I didn't think nothing of it. I felt like I

(48:48):
was being watched. Also, I didn't think nothing of it,
because every time I go down to the damn, I
normally am being watched just because there's people on the
other side that I just can't see. But everybody had left,
And normally when you're at the dam on either side
it there's street lamps on our side, there's none on
that side, so we have a little bit of light
that we can see without a flashlight. They can't see
it all, so you have to have a light to

(49:09):
be on that side. So I didn't feel lights, so
I felt I was being watched, but I didn't. I
don't know why. I didn't pay no attention to it.
And then just out of nowhere, just all of a sudden,
I got dizzy and needed to lay down, and I did,
And that's whatever. You just all kicked in and I

(49:32):
was weak and not gonna move, and it was just random.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You might know this, but if you don't, it sure
sounds to me like you guys zapped with infra sound.
Do you know what that is? Have you heard about
their ability to do that?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, they can admit this really low frequency sound or
sounds that are below our ability to hear. That will
affect you in strange ways. That can make you feel nauseous,
It can make you have a headache, that's going to
make you want to crawl into a hole and hide.
And this can also make you feel very weak, all

(50:08):
sorts of strange effects and everything. It sounds to me
like that's what happened to you.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
I have And that's like I was saying before, that's
a very crazy thing for a being to be able
to do I mean, that's to me that beyond alien
level thing like stuff. You know, like he's able to
basically get into your head and make you feel happer
he wants you to feel.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
I can understand you feeling that way. But there are
a lot of large animals that can do that. Tigers
can do that. Turkeys actually can emit ultrasound, I'm sorry, infrasound.
Elephants can emit infrasound. If you have the ability to
make the correct vibrations, then you can emit infrasound like that.

(50:56):
There are people who have done a lot of experiments
with it, and yeah, it causes all sorts of funny
effects depending on what frequency you hit. Wouldn't you admit it?
So I get it's really hard to wrap your mind
around how that could be possible. But yeah, that's a fact.
It's real.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, I know about elcho location. I just didn't know
about that.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Oh that's no harm in fl Yeah, a lot of
people didn't know about that. Puris, what did you think
was behind Jason being affected that way?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Like he had said, he pulls stunts all the time
so he doesn't have to carry anything. So I didn't
believe him until he was like halfway hyperventilating and explaining
it to us. I mean the whole time, I didn't
believe him because he does it all the time. He

(51:51):
says stuff like that every time we go out there,
So I thought it was him being lazy behind it.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Yeah, it would have been nice if he was just
playing around. Jack. You're a man of the cloth, so
obviously you know what Nephilim are. With that in mind,
do you subscribe to the idea that Sasquatch just might
be Nephelin?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
You know, I really believe he probably may very well
be neflin. You know, the Bible says in the last
days it'll be like the days of Noah, And in
the days of Noah they were nephlin, you know, and stuff.
And I think that I think that he very well
could be a Nephlin because of the spirit, just because

(52:40):
of the spiritual stuff that goes with him. Like one
thing I forgot to tell you, Vick, is that last night,
that last episode, when I was going up and I
could hear those branches snapping, you know, in the woodline,
and I could hear that heafen. In my brain, I
heard he's okay. He's an old man. He's no threat

(53:03):
to us. He's an old man. And I thought to myself,
why would I say that to myself in my brain,
you know, as I thought about that, and I think
that I think he was just I do think they
can that there's a spiritual side. I think they can
get into our heads to a degree at least. And

(53:23):
I think that they do admit that sound. I do
think that there's a spiritual side to these things, you know,
and it very well could be nephlum.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, they just might be. And with that in mind,
after we get done recording this show, I want to
send you a link to a podcast episode that I
think would interest you. There is a very well known
sasquatch researchers put research into this whole idea that well,
maybe he didn't look directly into the possibility that these
guys might be a nephlum, but by using a show

(53:58):
far a type of horn, which I'm sure you know
exactly what that is, I think he is proven that
they just might be neflon. Like I said, after we
wrap here, I'm going to send you a link to
that podcast episode so you can listen to it if
you'd like, And if you do listen to it, I
think it's really going to interest you.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
You bet cool, I'd love to.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, definitely, I'll do that. Then, thank you, well, you're welcome. Now,
you told us that you've obviously cast demons out of people,
so it takes a lot to frighten you. But Sasquatch
still frighten you. Why do you think that is?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I think it's just, you know, when the devil acts up,
I mean, you get your hair stands on the end.
He can, he does freaky junk. But I think it's
just the idea of boom, there it is, or this
is happening right now, and it's just you'd go on
high alert, you know, and just knowing, you know, just

(54:59):
knowing that if he wants to kill you, he would
kill you. I mean, in all of this stuff we've
talked about so far tonight. I mean, like you said,
if he wanted to come and wipe all three of
us out at that sandbar, he would have done it.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Easy, Oh definitely.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
So But I just I feel like that God gives
us power over all, the power of the enemy. Nothing
she'll buy any means harmless and just because you're casting
out a devil and you get this hair standing on
your head that it's almost like getting in a fistfight
with a big guy and you know you're gonna fight.

(55:38):
You know, it's just like, I don't know, there's that
fear that comes over you, but you just do it anyway,
and you stand in Jesus' name against these devils and
they have to leave, you know, And these Sasquatch, you know,

(56:00):
I've never used the name of Jesus against them. I've
heard that they that there's people that have, you know,
But uh, and I'm I'm not sure what they are.
I think that's the big thing is I'm not sure
just if they're nephlem are they some form of I

(56:20):
know they're spiritual somehow, But you know, I don't know.
I don't have a real answer for you know, why
I was all freaked out but yet not run from them.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Well, I think it's only natural that you felt that way.
I really do. If Sasquatch are a nephlm, does that
make you fear them even more than you already do?

Speaker 2 (56:41):
No, I really don't. I don't. I mean, I don't
think we need to be stupid and go out there
to try to wrestle a sasquatch, you know. But I
do believe that the Lord. If we trust the Lord,
the Lord keeps his hands upon us, you know, and
and stuff. But I don't believe we need to go

(57:03):
put ourselves in danger, you know, just to do it
to see if God's going to do it. That's like
saying I believe that these snakes, if they bite me,
you know, I won't die. Well, don't tempt God, you know.
Don't go out there doing weird stuff to see if
God will protect you from him, you know. I mean,

(57:27):
if you have to, then stand in the name of Jesus.
But you know, I just don't know what they are,
but I do. I am on the track that they
may very well be Nephlin.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Well, you're not knowing what they are doesn't make any
different from the rest of us. It really doesn't.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
No.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I thought about this driving today, and I thought, you know,
the more I dig into him, the more questions I have,
you know, just amazing.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's how normally works with these guys, It really does. Well.
I can't thank all of you enough for coming on
and share those experiences with us.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I really appreciate it well man, I thank you for
the opportunity to come on.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Oh yeah, thank you, absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Oh you know, you're welcome, So glad to give you
guys the platform. Having said that, thanks again so much
for your time and have a great night.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
like to be a guest on the show, please go
to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a
great night.