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August 25, 2025 60 mins
Tonight’s guest, Karl Sieling, had his Bigfoot sighting in 1976 while he was walking down a set of railroad tracks, in a heavily forested area, near Newtown, Connecticut. When his sighting happened, he was on the way to his buddy’s house. Sometimes, he would walk or bike about a mile and a half to his buddy’s house, using roads in the area. This day, he decided to walk on a set of train tracks that ran right past his house, through a forest and then right past his buddy’s house. If he walked the tracks, instead of taking roads in the area, he’d save himself about a half mile on the trip. He had walked those tracks, to his buddy’s house, numerous times before without any incident. This time, however, his walk would be anything but uneventful.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is Carl Steeling. I'm originally from Newtown, Connecticut,
in Fairfield County. I was born in Bridgeport, moved to
Newtown and when I was three, and I was pretty
much there the rest of my life, working there for

(00:23):
the town as a auxiliary police officer dispatcher at a patrolment.
I went to school there high school. Family is from
there and switched over from a police department over to

(00:46):
the Apartment of Corrections basically for money and retirement play.
And I was raised in a family. One day, I
believe it was nineteen seventy six, I was fourteen fifteen
at the time. It was the Bison tenning a year.

(01:07):
I grew up right on Lake Zor, right by the
Stevenson Dam, right by the Newtown Monroe border. My parents
rented out our house on the lake and they bought
a general store over in Stevenson, the Monroe section. And

(01:28):
from there it was like at the time, like I said,
when I moved there I was about twelve, a lot
of people parents belonged to the volunteer firehouse, small little community.
Everybody was pretty tight. Usually all the kids' fathers and

(01:49):
mothers would be belonging to the firehouse in some manner,
whether it be firefighting or lady's auxiliary. But kids were
all pretty much the same age, and it was a tight, nice,
tight little organization, small small time community. One day I

(02:12):
was on my way over to my buddy's house, who
lived about a mile and a half. If I decided
to ride my bike or walk on the road, but
we had the railroad tracks going right alongside the house,
and he was up on the other side, almost a
mile away, on the other end of the railroad tracks.

(02:36):
And the railroad tracks literally cut through, so it saved
you a lot of time from walking up the hills
and all around and about. It was like directly right
right to his house. There was no no houses or
you know, businesses or anything on the railroad tracks between
you know, my house point A and his house point B.

(02:57):
Decided to, you know, afternoon, beautiful day, sunny hot, decided that,
you know, I'm gonna go see what, you know, what
they're up to. So jumped down the railroad tracks and
started walking up towards his house. And railroad tracks were
used by the I think it was the New Haven

(03:19):
Line it was called. They were in operation. Trains came
by three or four times a day, usually moving like coal,
or we had the lumber yard there. They would drop
off train cars filled at lumber for unloading that kind
of stuff. So I'm walking up the railroad tracks and

(03:39):
I'm walking in between the tracks, and I'm looking down
at my feet because as you're walking on the railroad
ties in between the metal tracks, it's very very uneven.
And I knew that, you know, at some point I
was gonna trip, but I'm just constantly looking down in
between the tracks, watching where my feet are go, so

(04:01):
I don't, you know, end up on my face. So
doing that, I'm a little ways up to the railroad
tracks for maybe about halfway maybe three quarters of the
way there. And as I'm looking down, I don't know what,
but I didn't look completely down. I kind of probably
looked around me or something like that, and I did.
I caught my toe on the edge of a railroad tie,

(04:25):
and I stumbled and I almost fell, you know, kind
of jumping four or five steps ahead of me. Caught
my balance. I was like, WHOA, Okay, you know, sat
there and stopped, looked up and probably about I'm gonna
say now after I've been back there, because I have

(04:46):
been back to the scene, oh god, forty something years
now after we measured and everything. It was only like
seventy five feet away, but right smack in the middle
of the two rails was this eight nine foot figure,

(05:08):
just like a big black shadow, built like a really
beefy basketball player, that kind of a that kind of
a shadow looking, but more heftier, wider shoulders, a lot taller,

(05:29):
thicker in the torso, but not not heavy in the torso,
you know, just lean lean that just went up. So
I sat there and I just kind of looked at it.
Don't remember if I was scared or what. I had
no idea pretty much what it what it what? What

(05:49):
what it was? Besides, it was really really big, you
know it. It just looked at me for like three seconds.
It turned to its right and then just walked off
the railroad tracks into the into the woods. Not not

(06:11):
quite as fast as a deer that you know, a
deer would pounce if it got startled or anything, but
it just turned, not like in a hurry or anything,
but turned and then just took a few steps and
off into the woods it went. And I'm looking at
this thing, and I'm like, wow, like I said, I

(06:32):
don't remember if I was scared or not, or you know,
anything like that. But the weird thing that really, you know,
caught me was for the size of its its body.
It had a really small head for something that big,

(06:53):
I say, like kind of like a football helmet size
head on shoulders, like there was no neck. It was
just like the top of the football helmet on top
of the on top of the shoulders. It was all
real dark black or brown hair all over it. I

(07:14):
couldn't see any distinctive features on it. Time of day,
the sun was pretty much behind it, but not really
but more in my eyes where you couldn't really make
out whether the face was so dark and everything with
the sun coming down and kind of reduced the visibility

(07:35):
to really see any detail. I did notice that when
it turned sideways, it did not have like a beak
or a muzzle type like a bearer a dog would
have or anything like that. It was flat. The hands, feet,
they were pretty much the same. I believe that the

(07:57):
same color was all in one same color no matter
where you looked on it. The hands almost were like
a little bit shinier, like didn't have the hair, but
they were still that real dark dark brown to blackish.
I don't think it was. I don't think it was shiny.

(08:19):
The hair was. The hair was shiny, and when it
turned sideways to walk, I was able to notice a
little like red hinge around the tips of the hair,
But when you look look directly at it, it just
looked black or brown, like real dark brown black, kind
of like a halo around it. Didn't notice any smell,

(08:45):
didn't notice anything, you know, anything particular about that. It
walked into the woods and I proceeded to walk to
my buddy's house for about another i don't know, maybe
another ten minute walk, and met with them and him
and we proceeded on our way. Never said anything to nobody.

(09:10):
I wasn't about to at the point at the ages
we were, I wasn't gonna sit there and say, you know, hey,
you know what I just saw. Guys. I wasn't gonna
get laughed at and been that kid that saw the
whatever it was, so never mentioned it again after that.

(09:32):
Life went on from there.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, it's got a way of doing that. It always
does move on, whether you're ready for it to or not.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, it was something that further in the years, like
you know, I started having other instances, not sightings of
you know, anything like that, but kind of we heard screams,

(10:03):
We had like nests made. My daughter said she saw,
you know, at one point, a hairy man in the backyard.
And this is you know, years after, when you know,
I'm married. These are just these little things. But you know,
playing you know, in the woods, you know, the wintertime,

(10:27):
we see tracks. In the summertime, you know, around the
same field that we used to play in when we
were like nine, ten years old. You know, we'd see
tracks of the snow, and you know, we would joke
about the giant that lived in the woods because these
tracks were so big and so far apart, you know
us as kids, we couldn't even jump from one to another,

(10:49):
you know, so as kids, our minds going like, wow,
a giant must have made that. The way the grass
was put down in the field, in the size of
the nests, like a regular bear or a deer, you know,
settling in would be a certain size. And this was
like the size you could put you know, five six,

(11:12):
seven kids in and there was a couple of them.
And these things started coming back to me after I
happened to just be watching TV one day, probably about
about five six years ago, and it might have been
that that show, the one with money Maker on it,

(11:37):
and got me interested. I was like, oh, you know,
it's pretty cool. And then I got on YouTube and
I was watching one and watching another one, and as
I'm watching these, you know, some people are talking specifically
about tracks in the snow, and it would like click
a little reminder. I was like, you know, I remember

(11:57):
when I was a kid, is something like that that
you know, we saw it? And I'll be like, okay,
I remember that. And then you know, watching another show,
who knows how long afterwards, but you know there's about
nests being made and about the different names of a

(12:18):
bigfoot sasquatch, Harryman, you know what they're called, and think,
you know, just stuff like that, and all these little
little tidbits would start coming back as a memory and
just started at that point, I was just like, you know,

(12:40):
one after another. Then I started writing stuff down and
I'm trying to put it together. And now I'm looking up,
you know, different bigfoot reports in the area of the towns,
and I'm finding out, you know, I'm not the only
one who's seen, you know, something like this in town.
It just it just opened up a whole new rabbit

(13:03):
hole to go down, where all this circumstantial evidence that
you know, I was able to find and remember could
be related to something, you know, more than what I knew,
you know, at the time, and I just kind of
put it down from what I saw. I'm like, okay,

(13:25):
you know, I remember what I saw, and it just
it's just another part of the another part of the
story from actually seeing footprints first, then seeing the bigfoot
on the railroad tracks, and then life goes on a
little more. You're married, you have kids, you get a job,

(13:47):
and you know, your kids start. My daughter was one
day talking about it. You know, she was out in
the yard plane at my mother in law's house and
we were there and she came in. She was like
down with three or four and she's like, Mommy, the
hairy man's watching me in the yard and we're like, okay.

(14:08):
You know, she's with her other sister and her younger
you know brother, they're out there and they're like, okay,
they're just like kids. And it wasn't a very big backyard,
but it was pretty much backed up to the forest
and it was only two miles away from where I
grew up. I mean, like I said, the whole family
is pretty much in like a two mile radius. You know,

(14:30):
I grew up. I actually grew up with my wife
and you know, her family. Our parents went to school together,
and you know, that kind of relation, and we just
kind of blew it off. And then you know, a
half hour later, she comes back in and she says,
you know, the hairy man is watching us play in

(14:50):
the backyard again, and this time we get up and
run out there and look and there's nothing there but
a solid woodline with you know, hemlocks and thistle bushes
and uh Mountain Laurel, you know, all combined in the backyard.
It's like nobody's gonna get through there. And you know,

(15:11):
at that time, you know, you walk in and you say,
you know, these kids have such a crazy imagination. And
my mother in law was sitting there watching dishes, and
she's like, you know, don't be so sure, and we
just kind of left it at that, but you know,
we remember her saying it and like, did my mother

(15:31):
in law know something more or and did the same
thing I did, you know, just kind of like suppress it.
Nobody's gonna say nothing, but I know something's out there.
So that's you know, that's pretty much the the story
of what you know, what I had I had going on,

(15:52):
I mean at that point. I mean, now I got
my own, uh Facebook page for to make your Bigfoot
research and got a bunch of people on it that
are you know, commenting and you know, things like that.
But from what was then to what it is now,

(16:14):
it's like it's a whole new world opened up where
I'm not really worried about telling somebody that I seen
I saw something then. You know, I was never going
to bring up the sighting, you know, going through work
or anything like that because I wasn't gonna lose my

(16:34):
job or you know, something like that. But it just
really opened up a lot.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, it definitely has a way of changing things. It
really does. What if the listeners who've never had a
siding of their own have wrong about what it's like
to actually see one? In your opinion, Carl.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well, you know a lot of people will comment I
believe I'd have just ignorance or maybe embarrassment. Probably so
many more people have actually seen an actual you know,

(17:17):
a sasquatch or bigfoot, but would never say anything to
anybody because of the ridicule that they might face.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, it's a shame that it has to be that way,
but it's understandable.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah. Well, I mean, and you know, if you think
about it, when you're younger, you got more of a
a pride type of cockiness, you know, when you're when
you're younger, and as you get older, certain things don't
really aren't really that important to you anymore. It's like,

(17:51):
you know, the old thaying, been there, done that, you know,
So you know, I'm not going to harp on that anymore.
You know, I don't care about what you know, John
Q public thinks of me anymore. I've already done my time.
I've done my career in law enforcement. You know, I've

(18:13):
been married forty years, I got three kids, five grandchildren. Yeah,
you can say say what you want. I'm happy where
I'm at. So you know you want to, you want
to say something about it, and you go ahead and
say something about it. I'm not going to lose sleep
over it. But you know, at the same time, I've

(18:33):
never since those incidents, and the last one would would
have been when my daughter was little and we were
at my mother in laws when she saw quote to
Harry Man from when I was you know, nine, ten

(18:54):
years old to seeing this the which the tracks and
the nests, and then actually seeing one a few years later,
and then you know, getting married and starting a career,

(19:15):
having kids at my daughter's site, I haven't had any
anything since then, and that would have been in the
very early nineties. And then, you know, all of a sudden,
now I'm retired and I'm home, and you know, I
start going through you know, YouTube and TV channels, and
I started like putting one in one together, like you know, this,
this is pretty cool. The only thing I have on

(19:38):
now is doing doing the research, you know, getting on
the computer and finding out what in the area has
happened up until now that's been reported, that's any any
thing similar to what I've experienced. And then once you

(20:01):
start doing that, it just it just opens up a
whole new world because you're like, wow, I didn't realize
that happened three years ago, you know, two miles from me,
or you know, somebody said they saw something here, like
when I saw mine on the railroad tracks back in

(20:21):
seventy six. My research showed just two miles south of there,
on the same railroad tracks, but I believe it was
nineteen fifty two or fifty three. There were five kids
that put a report in of seeing a very similar

(20:44):
entity that they said they watched it for a few
minutes and then it went up into the tracks. I
was like, okay, I mean same railroad tracks two miles apart,
you know, years apart. But putting it together, you know,
is it it's the same around the same time of year.

(21:06):
Is it a track? You know? Is it is it
a go through just to get from point A to B?
Is there you know any that stay here all winter?
Are they around anymore? You know, you start getting these
other reports of people hearing you know, howls and whoops

(21:28):
in the in the you know, the area around their homes,
you know, deep in the woods, and you know they
know it's not a fish or cat or you know,
a deer getting killed, or you know, bobcats or coyotes.
It's just something that you know they've never heard. And
you know, okay, that was you know, two years ago,

(21:50):
this report says, and then another one says six months ago.
I literally was at a graduation party with my niece,
probably about a month ago, and one of the guys
in my Masonic lodge who grew up right with my

(22:13):
my daughter, or not my daughter, my wife in her neighborhood,
who I'm you know, real good friends with. He's around
the same age I am. Comes up to me and
you know, he's like, hey, how's your h your big
foot Facebook page going. I'm like, I said, you know,
it's pretty good, and you got some people going on it.
He's like, you know, he says, back in the early nineties,

(22:35):
he says he and uh, a girlfriend of his, were
outriding quads on the same railroad track, but north of
where I saw mine, about two miles and they were
out riding, and he says she rode up up ahead
of him, up around the corner and then came flying

(22:58):
back and she's like, You're not gonna believe what I saw.
And He's like, what she's I had a big foot
run across the railroad tracks in front of me. And
you know, I'm just finding this out a month ago,
But this, these are the kind of things they just
keep they just keep coming around. I mean, I have
a bunch of reports around me that I could get

(23:19):
to in a twenty minute drive throughout the years that
have that have been reported that I knew nothing of
until I started researching them. So, you know, I just
do my thing. I have a buddy that you know,
I talked to, and you know, he goes out and
listens and I try to get out as much as

(23:41):
I can. But you know, we just keep basically through
talking to different people at different places, and you know,
go to the deli and somebody will see that I
gotta tie cover on the back of my jeep to

(24:02):
cover my tires. It's the green one with the Bigfoot.
That's his Bigfoot research team on it. And I pulled
into deli with that show, and you know, into the
deli and a couple of guys in the Delhi are
asking me, Hey, are you into that Bigfoot? Did anybody
ever tell you about the bus driver down here and
New Milford that you know swears to God that he

(24:23):
had one run across his h his path one day
when he was picking up kids in the morning. You know,
do I know who the bus driver is? No, I
don't know who, but you know, they're telling me stories
from just going in and grabbing a you know, coffee
in the deli that just word of mouth or conversation piece,

(24:45):
you know, so then we you know, try to find
out what the location is, give a roundabout, mark about it,
and mark it down, you know, just to see what's
what's actually happening in the area where you know, everybody
says little Connecticut, there's nothing going on here. You got
to go out to the you know, Pacific Northwest and

(25:06):
you know, Ohio, Indiana, and you know, things like that.
And I'm like, man, we got we got crazy reports
right here in Connecticut. So that's that's what I'm doing.
And what else do you need to know?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, one of the things I was wondering is when
it comes to places where you'd expect to see a sasquatch,
Connecticut doesn't exactly come close to the top of the list.
From those people. And for those people listening who don't
understand all the resources that Connecticut has to offer a sasquatch,
please tell them about that. Oh we have.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
We have a lot of uh the state parks. We
have a major river going right through, the Housatonic goes
right up. We have part of the Appalachian Trail that's around.
A lot of Connecticut is wooded. The areas that I
really really put my attention to is in the northwest

(26:15):
area and then the north or in more of the
central western section new Haven, new Haven County, Lichfield County,
Fairfield County. We have the power lines that go right
through it. We have the the gas line that goes

(26:36):
right through it. We have the major lake and river
that goes right through it. And then you've got the
railroad tracks that are no longer in use in the
area that you know, I saw mine. They're not used anymore.
But there's there's so many different pathways. And then when
I started taking the reports, and because I know the area,

(27:02):
and a report, you know, somebody given a report would
give you know, like landmarks or kind of vague, but
where they're coming from, they give it like a town
or you know, something vague, and it would you'd be
able to figure out where it is if you're from
the area, you know, which I am. I could sit
there and I can pinpoint, and then I said, you know, okay,

(27:25):
this story is here and this report is here. Then
that report's there, and that report's there, and then you
sit there and say, okay, draw on the railroad tracks,
draw in the power line, where's the pipeline though where's
the river. All these reports are going on this whole
side of on the the western side of Connecticut, whether

(27:48):
it be north, northern, or southern part of it. But
all these reports are within Bigfoot war walking at night.
They could be over in Bethel and they're only a
mile or two from the railroad tracks or a mile

(28:10):
or two from the pipeline, or they're they're all right
there and you know, you put one, you put one,
one and one together and it's you're like wow, It's like,
you know, is this a pathway, you know? Or are
these around here and they stay here? Nobody knows. Nobody

(28:36):
knows yet. We only just have the reports to go on,
you know, by you know what what people have given
and you just kind of try to put the piece
of the puzzles together a little a little out of time.
But you know, as far as Connecticut goes, I mean,
there's a lot of them up in the Kent area,

(28:56):
up in Lichfield County, Mount Town area up that way.
There are a lot on the eastern side of Connecticut
in the bar Hampstead area because of the big park
out there. They said it's pretty active. I haven't gone
that way because it's all the way across Connecticut. I

(29:17):
don't really drive that far, but up in my northwestern section,
people are hearing things. It's very, very unpopulated. People have
you know, half a mile long driveways and nobody around them,
and they hear things. They hear things all the time,

(29:38):
and you know they've given reports about you know, one
guy described about a farm that his parents owned. I
wouldn't say where it was as I got his name
was Mike. After he described it, I knew exactly where
it was. But it was a multi generational sighting. He

(29:59):
saw it running across his family farm field chasing deer
told his father. His father told him that he's seen
it before, and then also told him that his grandfather
has seen them on the property. And you know, neither

(30:21):
one of the father and son had no idea that
the other one's seen it until the son said something
to the father. You know, and this is only three
or four years ago, and you know, it's it's it's populated,
but it's not really a lot of farmland, a lot
of fields, a lot of places to hide up here.

(30:43):
I mean, you know, you want to go up you
could get lost if you don't have it you know,
you don't have your GPS, should always find your way back,
but you could get It's it's pretty easy to get
to get lost and not really ie where you actually are.
All of a sudden, you didn't know what you're in Massachusetts?
Are you in? You know over in New York you
don't even know you're there until you start seeing signs.

(31:06):
So but Connecticut, you know, I feel, you know, I
feel Connecticut is a hot spot and it's definitely worth
looking into.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, Connecticut is a place with a lot of wild area,
a lot of great places for a sasquatch to scratch
out a living. So it's no surprise. It shouldn't be
a surprise you have a population.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
There right exactly. You know, it has to be it
has to be a population. If it's not a population
that's here permanently. It's definitely a go through state to
go through, you know, to get the point A to
point B. But you know, like I said, when you know,

(31:49):
when I was a kid, I remember, you know, the
footprints in the snow, so you know, with their time,
it had to be around you know, December, January, February,
you know when we saw the snow back then, in
the Loundy kids where we used to get really good
winters here. You know, now now they're not so great.

(32:09):
But you know, back then it was nothing to have
a foot of snow on the ground all winter long,
you know, So being the kids and seeing that, you know,
joking about the giants and things like that, that's wintertime.
I had my actual sighting and you know, the end
of July, beginning of August, I believe it was, you know,

(32:30):
when it was hot out. So are they here as
a unit? And I just happened to stumble on those things.
Was it a lone one just going through We don't know,
but you know they're reported at all different times of
the year.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh sure they are. As you're walking down those tracks
that day before you saw that sasquatch, what was the
area like around you? Were you surrounded by a lot
of trees or was that area you're pretty open?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Nope, it was it very very secluded. Like I said,
the railroad tracks cut through the woods. The only thing
that was there was you know, heavy trees both sides,
and the only thing besides the railroad track that was
there was like the little arm. It's like a six

(33:24):
seven foot wide gravel road that the uh, the maintenance
for the tracks could drive the trucks down. Other than that,
I mean, the whole open area from you know, edge
of edge of woods to the other edge of woods
across you know, across the railroad tracks like that, probably
about maybe thirty thirty five feet wide, and that's it,

(33:51):
you know, so it's you're you're basically just like walking
kind of on a railroad path going through. There wasn't
a house on the right, and there wasn't any houses
on the left. If there were houses on the left,
they were at a minimum one hundred yards into the woods,

(34:11):
more towards the populated area, away from the tracks.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Huh. Yeah, sounds like that forest really was close into
the tracks. And with that in mind when you saw
it that day, had you just come around to bend
in the tracks that had been hiding your approach, or
would you have been visible to that sasquatch for some time?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I should have been visible, I mean, because there's really
really no place where you could go from from where
I started, you know, from my house to my buddy's house,
going on that length of tracks. There's nowhere where if
somebody was say one hundred yards in front of you

(34:58):
where they could hide. You always had that, you always
were able to see a good distance in front of you.
Or it went pretty straight before it was a very
like meandering corner. It wasn't like a real sharp corner.
It just kind of meandered to the left a little bit,
and then it straightened out kind of a little bit

(35:18):
meander to the right, and then it had like a
straight away and then past my buddy's house, it would,
you know, go up a little more pretty much kind
of like a real soft s But I mean, if
people were riding, you had you always had a good
hundred yards visibility, you know, in front of you or

(35:38):
behind you. So this whatever it was, must either it
was standing on the tracks and I didn't see it
because I was looking down at my feet, and then
I ended up stumbling, and because I was looking down
that it decided that it was going to walk across
in front of me or across and you know, all
of a sudden I stop and look up and caught

(36:00):
it right in the middle of the tracks. That it froze,
I don't know, but like I said, it wasn't in
a It wasn't in a really great hurry to get
out of my sight. It was just it stood there,
looked just like a shadow, you know, complete. I could
see the shoulders, both hands, you know, long long arms,

(36:24):
had pretty long legs, you know, solid torso, real broad shoulders.
But the little thing was like this little p head
on the shoulders and I was like, okay, maybe his
head didn't grow or something. But it just stood there
for a second and then just turned, not like oh

(36:44):
my god, turned, but just turned then into the woods.
It went no noise, no you know, no no sound,
no grunts, no whistles, no nothing, just Okay, it's time
for me to go. I'm not going to be here anymore.
And left the area and I was able to see
I see a good hundred yards past it up the

(37:06):
railroad tracks. So, you know, did it think it was
going to be able to cross because I kept looking
down so I don't stumble when I just happened to
and then look up and it was just bad planning
on its part. I don't know, But I mean I
was just like, wow, pretty cool, and then that was it.

(37:29):
I mean, it's something that I, like, I said, I
don't remember being scared, you know, like, oh my god,
oh my god, you know, I gotta run out of
here type of you know, or thing like that. It
was more like kind of like the first time you
saw fireworks and you're like, oh, that's really cool, but

(37:51):
they make a lot of noise and you didn't expect it.
So maybe I felt kind of that overall feeling and
then it just went away because the fireworks stop. But
it wasn't like I ran the rest of the way
to my buddy's house or anything. I just walked up
to his house and continue the day as you know,

(38:13):
fourteen year old kid, Let's go ride bikes, let's go
down swiming hole fish, and you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'll bet that was like the first time you saw
fireworks times one hundred.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah. I mean it was cool. I'm not gonna say
it wasn't cool. It was definitely cool. But you know,
I don't, like I said, don't remember being scared about it.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Well that's great, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
And it wasn't aggressive. You know a lot of people
are like, oh my god, you know, they have their
own stories, but I mean, totally not aggressive. If anything,
was more startled than I was, and it decided to
leave before I did it.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, That's how most of these experiences go. A lot
of people seem to try to demonize them. But yeah,
in almost every case, when you bump into a sasquatch
like that, they just go on their way. They don't
act aggressively. You said that the sun was behind it though,
so that it made it hard to make out facial details.
But you said that you could tell other details. I'm wondering,

(39:21):
could you tell if it had anything in its hands?
It sounds like you saw its hands pretty well.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I was able to say its hands hanging down where
you could not. It didn't look like a mitten like,
you know, a continued mitten from like the fore arm
down into the hand. You could see fingers. You could
see fingers, but they were the same color as the fur,

(39:49):
but not furry. Yeah, and that only only could see
that because it was the good like outline of it
that you could say, Okay, you know. It was like
if you're in a white room and I put a
black glove on and just held my hand up. You know,

(40:10):
you could see my forearm and you can see the fingers,
but you can't see you don't see my knuckles. You
can't see my fingernails. You know, you just see that
black outline. That's that's what it was. More like how
I how I remember it all one color? You know,
I couldn't tell if it was I don't know. I
can't really say. I don't know if it was really shiny,

(40:32):
you know, the hair, the hair was shiny. It wasn't mad,
and it wasn't like like like a dog that never
gets groomed. You know. Hair was like four or five
inches long, but it was smooth. It didn't look dirty.
It's just like it was this big figure with hair

(40:55):
all over it.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Talking about its hair, you mentioned that reddish tinge that
you noticed on the tips of its hair, But then
again also you said that the sun was behind it.
Do you think that reddish tinge that you noticed might
have just been an effect of the sunlight bouncing off
of its hair or going through its hair, and maybe
the sasquatch didn't have any red qualities to its coat,

(41:19):
or do you think it definitely did have at least
some reddish qualities to its hair.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
It had to have, maybe like on the tips of
the hair, because when the sun came behind it, it
kind of gave that reddish appearance. But the thicker the
hair or the thicker in towards the center of the
the silhouette, it was darker. So you know, it was

(41:49):
like the sun going through the hairs made it one color,
but if you looked at the hair, it was another color,
you know. And I remember it was like really dark,
almost almost black. And then you know, as it pretty
much turned, is what I noticed, you could see like
a just a little tinge of a kind of like

(42:12):
a halo that went around, you know, with the body
up towards the top. I mean, I don't know if
it went all the way down or anything, but you
could see from like the shoulders and the top of
the head, you could see along the arm like a
like a reddish just that little ribbit of a reddish tinge,
not not the whole arm, like maybe like a half

(42:33):
inch quarter inch around the exterior of the hair. And
so you know, it probably it might might have been
really dark red. I don't know. It looked like I said,
it looked more more dark brown to black the entire
body with maybe a tinge of maybe a tinge of
red around the outside. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Got to give it to you, Carl, You sure didn't
notice a lot of good details. So many people who
were in that same situation they would have noticed much.
But yeah, you definitely did notice a lot, and hats
off to you. You did a really good job.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I mean it was cool, you know, but you know
at the time, you know, you're fifteen, You're not going
to have your buddies laugh at you. So it was
pretty much like a dead issue, and like the really
only time, the only time ever that I kind of
related of exactly what it was at that point when

(43:32):
I was fifteen, when I was like nine or ten,
even the six million dollar Man wasn't out yet with
the Bigfoot section that they had on it at that time.
That was like the first you know, they brought out
Bigfoot with a six million dollar man. That was more
towards my sighting time in my life is when that

(43:55):
came out. So when I was young, I mean, it
was just deep footprints and you know, big nests and
that was it. And then uh more towards when the
Steve Austin Bigfoot Show came out with a six billion

(44:16):
dollar man, that was just a couple of years before
by sighting. So when I saw it, I kind of
figure what it was and then I was. But then
I was like, nah, that that's TV. I mean, you know,
six billion dollar man ripped his arm off and it was,
you know, mechanical. I was like, okay, so you know,

(44:36):
maybe they are out there, but that was it that
I wasn't going to be, you know, talking about anything
like that. Then you get the other you know, little
things happen, and you know, even like when I was
a cop, you know, we'd go out working at midnight
shift and somebody would call up saying, you know, somebody's
banging on their house at two o'clock in the morning.

(44:58):
And you get you know, you go to the address
and they live down this long, windy road into a
driveway and you know, you go there, there are outside
lights on. You go with your flashlight and you know,
we look around. No nobody's out here, ma'am. Everything looks okay.
But if you think back on that, you know, these

(45:19):
people called you for a reason. Just because you didn't
find someone there doesn't mean something was not there and
we just didn't see it because obviously we weren't looking
for that. We were looking for a human being probably

(45:40):
you know, maybe breaking in or snooping around the property.
So we didn't see a person that looked exactly like us,
then everything was okay. And you know, many many of
those calls in areas like that, and that's basically unless
you caught the guy coming out of window. You know,

(46:03):
it was you know, somebody's banged on my house. Somebody's outside.
I saw him walk by the window, and you know,
all they can say is I saw a shadow because
they and they got scared and called the cops. So
you know, you go there, you look at it, and
you know, nobody's there. We weren't looking for hair samples,
we weren't looking for a big foot. We weren't looking

(46:24):
for giant footprints outside the windows, you know, so we
wouldn't we wouldn't even thought about a bigfoot doing this.
So you know, it's just things like that that you
start putting together and it's like, Wow, how far down

(46:45):
the rabbit hole?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I now, Yeah, no doubt. And just a bit ago,
you mentioned the six million dollar Man that episode with Bigfoot.
I was already interested in Bigfoot before that episode aired
on ABC. BUD when I watched that episode, when it
was played for the first time, you talked about setting
the hook that really set the hook in me for Sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
You see, I had no idea until that was on
TV that there was a bit of what you would
you call a bigfoot. I mean Bigfoot on TV was
a totally made up for TV entertainment monster. I did
hear of the Lockness Monster, but I never heard of Bigfoot.

(47:31):
So when that came out, I mean that was that
was cool? Was it very entertaining when you were a kid?
You know, six million dollar man's fighting Bigfoot or this
thing called Bigfoot, big airy guy, Like okay, that's cool,
But never put it to say, you know, could this
be a real thing? And you know, I never thought

(47:51):
about it again, I was like, okay. I was more
into like the Dark Shadows type of movie that would
come out Saturday morning or things like that, you know, creak,
your feature type stuff. You know. So I was totally
drawn more towards you know, vampires and goblins and gargoyles

(48:12):
than you know, I believe in that before I would
believe in Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Well, you had every reason to think that, so you
can't be foulded for that. How would you describe its
posture when you first saw it?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Just straight? I mean I didn't see any kind of
like lean or anything. It was standing straight up, just
like if you if you took an NBA player or
put them up, you know, against the wall and told
them to just to stand there standing basically just like that,
both feet, you know, like looking directly at you, with

(48:49):
its arm hanging down, not posing or anything, but just
like you said, it there and then it moved, so
you know, there was no there was no body language
besides it turning and walking away, you know when when

(49:11):
it walked. When it walked away, I mean, you know
it did it didn't. It didn't like how we would,
you know, more or less bring our our our forearms
closer to our chest to run. I mean it had that.
The arms stayed extended and you know and hung down
and kind of you know, swung a little as it

(49:32):
walked away. But I don't remember it being leaned over anything.
It just walked off the tracks and into the woods.
The only thing I could hear was it was it
literally walking on the gravel. You hear the crunch crunch, crunch, crunch,
and then hit the leaves and then it went into
the woods. And that was the last herd or scene

(49:53):
of it.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
It just continued on with this day nothing want that like.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I don't know if it was war shocked to see
me or I was worse shocked to see it. But
you know, like I said, I didn't run away, and
he didn't run away. He just walked away, you know,
he walked away quickly. But it wasn't a panic. Oh
my god, I got to get out of here. He
saw me type of you know escape.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
He was probably a bit as surprised to see you
as you were to see him as probably a wash.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Oh. I'd love to see no one now what I
know or what to listen for or you know, be
look for things like that. I'd love to see another one,
you know, I keep looking for keep looking for drawings

(50:47):
of you know how people say, you know, they they
saw it and they draw. I can't draw for nothing,
So mine would look like a circle with a stick
and two arms hanging out, you know, stick figure for me,
and I just put lines on it for hair. But
trying to find one that is really close to that.

(51:07):
I found two pictures that, you know, one it was
drawn more of a brown hair and the one I
saw it was pretty close to that. The head was
a little bit too big. But you know, I made
copies of them and I stuck them in my diary
and then I just kept those until I can actually

(51:31):
see you know, one, well, it's exactly like the one
I saw the way I look at it. There there
are as many different bigfoot sasquatch body shapes as there
are people. There has to be because what I've seen,

(51:55):
you know, I can't really find a real another picture
exactly what I saw. And then there's other ones where
people actually see they look really close together about but
they don't look like mine at all. You know, just
the body is wrong, or the head's wrong, or you know,

(52:16):
the legs are too short, the legs are too long.
It's there. It has to be a you know, just
like we have, you know, different body shapes. I'm sure
that they have different body shapes. So be cool to
see another one, though, I.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Wouldn't be surprised if you do. If you keep on
beating the bushes the way you are, it's probably just
a matter of time. But you never know. I guess
time will tell. Did anything ever happen? They gave you
the impression that another one might have been around?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Now the only thing that you know, I can think
of are the different reports that I've thought, I've pulled up,
you know, from the internet, newspaper articles in the area,
stuff like that that say that there, you know, that
somebody's seen something or hearts something or smelt something. But

(53:11):
other than that, myself, well, actually probably about three years ago,
I actually did report. I let the dog out of
my back slider one night to go to the bathroom
about seven o'clock, and it was in August, I believe
it was August, and I happened to be living in

(53:33):
Sandy Hook at the time, literally like one hundred yards
off the Housatonic River up by the Chappa Dam, and
from where I was across the river which was only
about one hundred yards wide at that point. It's a
moving river, not whitewater, but it's a recreational river for

(53:54):
boats and stuff. Right across from me is a farm.
It's a pretty big farm. Real lot of it is used,
you know, to grow vegetables and stuff. Part of it
is still heavily wooded that they you know, they chopped
their trees. They sell their wood and that stuff. I
let the dog, I opened up the door, like reached

(54:15):
down and I clipped the dog and all of a sudden,
I heard from across the lake and then up in
the woods because there was nothing there where this sound
came from. There was nothing around it. And I hear this,
roar this, and then you heard another one right after it.

(54:42):
And a lot of people say that, you know, they
can feel that percussion in their chest type thing. This
was way too far away to hear it or to
feel anything like that. But from where I heard it,
from the decibel level that it came across and I

(55:04):
was able to hear it was wild. I just like froze.
I was like, whoa. I'm like looking up there, I'm like,
there's nothing there besides that, it had to be something
up there, and I was like, okay. Then I started
that this was back when I just started doing all

(55:25):
my things on YouTube and you know, looking things up,
and I'm going through one after another after another, and
I finally heard one that was similar to what I heard.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
If that doesn't get your motor running nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Well, oh and it was. It was really cool. I
mean because I never I'm just leaning down, cooking up
the dog. And then I heard the first one and
I looked up and I heard the second one because
it was like a maybe a two second pause in
between the two of them, and I looked right where

(56:03):
it was coming from, and I'm like, that's way up
in the top of the hill, you know, in the
middle of no houses or anything up there. The only
thing that was up there when I went back along
the road and up there there's power lines that do
run up along the back in there. So if it
came from up that area, I could understand it because
there's nothing there but power lines. It's a cut through

(56:26):
and you know, it's still the people's property, but they
don't do anything with it. And it just amazed me.
So I filed and I filed a report would befrrow
on that one too, And but I haven't, I mean
since then, I haven't heard or seen anything besides what

(56:47):
I'm finding doing research in the you know, pencil push
and research.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Well, like I said, if you continue to beating the
bushes the way you are, it's probably just a matter
of time for you do have another experience, probably another
class A. But also, like I said, I guess time
will tell on that before we get out of here, Carl,
if any witnesses in Connecticut want to report their sightings
to you. What's the best way for them to do that.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
They could either go on to my Facebook page. It's
a private group, so you have to ask to join
it by usually got right on there and approve it.
It's Connecticut Bigfoot Research, and then you could pm me
private message of me on there, or if they'd rather,

(57:38):
I have a email address which is ct Bigfoot Research
at gmail dot com, and you know, I'll get it.
I'll get it that way and then I'll answer it.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
For anyone listening who does want to report a siding
to Carl, I'm going to post links to his why say,
I'm going to post a link to his Facebook page there,
and also I'll post that email address as well in
a description for tonight's show. That'll make it really easy
for you to find that info if you didn't jot
that down. But having said that, I can't thank you

(58:14):
enough for coming on and sharing the details of all
those experiences with this, Carl. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Oh, thanks for having me on. You know, like I said,
you know a lot of people now that you know
have had experiences you know, prior to now, and they're
a little older. Like I said, your you know, your
priorities change a little bit and the way you look
at the world, and you know, a lot of people
are putting back the stigma that comes with it and

(58:44):
kind of looking right past it and saying, you know what,
this is what I'm thinking, this is what I'm finding,
and you want to know about it? Ask me.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, it's funny how time changes things. Wasn't all that
long ago where pretty much knowing would open up about
their experiences. If you did open up about your experience,
pretty much no one would believe you. But as time
has gone on, people seem to be more open to
this sort of thing, which that's always a good thing. Yep, yeah,
it definitely is. Well, thanks again so much for your time, sir.

(59:16):
Like I said, I really appreciate it, and have a
great night. That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness
Radio with Vic Kundiff.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would like to
be a guest on the show, please go to Bigfoot
Eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd love to
hear from you.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Thanks for listening, Have a great night.
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