August 19, 2025 • 46 mins
Tonight’s guest, Chris Blaylock, is a Sasquatch investigator who is working on a doctorate’s degree in hominology and a bachelor’s degree in animal biology due to her interest in Sasquatch. That interest in them began at a young age too. You see, when Chris was a little girl, her grandmother used to tell her and her brother not to go out at night, never to whistle in the woods, and to be leery of the Wooley Boogers. Never, in her wildest dreams, did she ever think she’d actually go on to see one. That’s exactly what happened, though. Her sighting happened in Jefferson Memorial Forest, just outside of Louisville, Kentucky, in early September of 1982. Her brother was with her and saw it too. We hope you’ll tune into tonight’s show, so you can listen to Chris share the details of her sighting and talk about the field investigations she’s done.
If you’ve had a Sasquatch sighting in Kentucky that you’d like to share with Chris, please go to…
https://www.sasquatchcryptidinvestigation.com
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My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting
Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134
Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2
My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience
Thanks, as always, for listening!
If you’ve had a Sasquatch sighting in Kentucky that you’d like to share with Chris, please go to…
https://www.sasquatchcryptidinvestigation.com
If you’ve had a Sasquatch sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. I’d love to hear from you.
If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com
I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App...
My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting
Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134
Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2
My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is Chris Blaylock. I am a registered nurse
by train. I actually run a home health agency. I'm
also working on my PhD in horminology and a bachelor's
in wildlife biology and conservation. I belong to a research
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group and I've actually started my own research group to
try to get some answers to help explain what I
saw and what I know millions of other people have
seen themselves. I just started telling my story last year because,
(00:50):
as we all know, you know, for the longest time,
people would think that you're not saying when you tell
a story about a cryptid. But once I told it,
it was like a total relief. And now I'm out
there trying to encourage other people to tell their stories,
like I said, so we could get some answers to
(01:11):
what some of these cryptids are. I did have a signing.
It was a class A signing. This was in Jefferson
Memorial Forest, which is in Fairdale, Kentucky. It's just outside
of Louisville's kind of a Louisville suburb. And the thing
about Kentucky is it's very hilly, it's very foresty. Where
(01:36):
we went, it's your typical forest is you know, I'm
run by the government, so the forest department has you know,
rangers and everything there. But it was me and my brother.
This was back in nineteen eighty two, and it was
actually just about this time of year. It was early September.
We were getting ready to go back to school, and
(01:58):
we decided to go up to the forest because there's
a pond there you can go fishing and just kind
of spend the day and enjoy the last few moments
this summer before we went back to school. Now, a
little backstep here is I have always been told about
(02:19):
what my grandmother called the wooly booger. Because my grandmother
was from eastern Kentucky and my mother as well, so
we grew up knowing that there was creatures out there.
We were to be leary of them, not to go
out at night, never to whistle in the woods, those
type of things. My mother was an adventurer, so we
(02:42):
would go on adventures when I was younger. So me
and my brother were up at this pond. We had
been fishing and just hanging out and it was getting
to be about around eight o'clock. A little dusky now
on the back of this pond It was very hilly
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and a bunch of trees, and I was walking back.
We were going back toward the parking area, and my
brother's standing there with pretty much his mouth open, and
I'm like, what are you looking at? And he just
kind of turned to my head and standing on his
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hill classic behind a tree was this creature. I couldn't
even guesstimate how tall it was at that time, because
you know, I was sixteen, but it was very tall.
It was a very big hickory nut tree that it
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was standing behind, his full hickory nuts up there, and
it was just standing there watching us. It was a
chestnut brown and color. The fur was the hair was long.
Wasn't first sorry, the hair was long, not matted, but
(04:10):
not like it had been brushed. It just looked like hair.
No hair around the eyes or the nose. The arms
come to its knees, and at that moment, I'm just
standing there not my brain's trying to process what am
(04:34):
I looking at? What is that? You know, you don't
even though you've been told about these creatures and you've
seen all the movies, you know, you still cannot wrap
your brain around exactly what are you looking at? So
we still just stood there and looked at it, and
it looked at us like it was studying us just
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as much as we were studying it. And it started
doing a little bit of the rocking from side to side,
and at that time then I got scared because I
was afraid it was going to come down off that
hill and cross over to where we were at. Even
though I never made that move. That just what was
(05:18):
going in my mind at that time the fight or flight,
and mine was flight. So I started walking and it
would turn in its head and watching me as I walked,
and but my brother was just standing there. He would
not move, and I kept saying, Kenny, come on, come on,
(05:38):
we gotta go. And it was continuing. The sun was
going down behind the mountain and hill there, so it
was getting really dark to on the side of where
the creature was standing, and I said, come on, we're
going to lose sight of it. It's getting dark. We
need we need to leave. We need to I want
to go. I want to go right now. And we
(06:02):
started walking again, and it started walking toward the direction
of the car like it was kind of just following us.
And when it walked, then when it kind of turned sideways,
you could see kind of a little bit of the
conical head a little bit. It wasn't much. It really
wasn't as much as like Patty. It was more of
a rounder, very long stride, very long arm swing with it,
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and never made a noise. There was no smell whatsoever.
Didn't have any smell. And then when we stop, it
stopped and it would just turn around and look at
us again, like trying to get more face to face on.
(06:54):
So I said, I'm going to the car. So I
went to the car and my brother was still standing there.
Then he turns around and he starts coming to the car.
He gets in the car because he's driving. I'm in
the passenger seat. And I turned around and look and
he's standing not with it. I mean it's like thirty
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feet from the vehicle. I say, he couldn't really tell
if it was that male or female. There was no breath,
So I'm saying he and just stood there and watched us.
Never did any type of motion, nothing, that just stood
there completely still and watched us and just kind of
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tilted head a little bit. So we put the car.
When we put the car, and you know, he backed
up and we went out and that was the end
of that story, and there was I have not seen
it up at that place again since then, but I
(07:58):
do know there has been multiple people that have seen
in that same area, and that area actually backs up
toward it's within twenty miles of Fort Knox, and there's
been multiple multiple sightings of people talking about bigfoots being
(08:21):
on Fort Knox. So I do believe that was a
part of maybe how they travel, you know, through that
area and up through Fort Knox and onto the bigger
lakes up toward past Fort Knox. And then last year
I moved more south central Kentucky and I was driving
(08:47):
home and it was dark. I live about an hour
away from work. It takes me an hour to get home,
and I live out in the country, so it's all
country roads. There's usually nobody on the roads except for
farm equipment. And there was something cross the road. Stopped,
(09:10):
turned and looked, and when it looked, it was the
biggest eyeshine I have ever seen in my life, just
two big, huge, round, white, very tall. It was not
a deer. I've taken out a couple of deer with
vehicles this year, so I thought it was not a deer.
It was a lot taller than that, following a power
(09:31):
line across the road. Turned looked at me across the road,
and by the time I got to where it was,
there was no sight of it because I actually stopped
to look. And that's probably within thirty miles from I'm
not thirty, I'm sorry about twenty miles from my house
(09:52):
right now. I have taken several reports from people in
this area, multiple wooden knocks. We were out one night
camping at Nolan Lake. It's a huge lake just outside
(10:12):
of Litchfield, Kentucky, and we're sitting at the campfire and
you hear pop. He just allowed wood knock, and I thought,
everybody be quiet. I have recorders out because I take
recorders every time we go camping. Now and you heard
(10:35):
it repeat again, knock, shine flaars. We went out, started looking,
never seen anything, heard another knock, and then the knocks
just went away. It's just like they wanted to let
us know, we know you're here. We're here, and you
(10:55):
stayed on your side, We'll be fine. That is my
encounters that I have had. No I took a report
from a lady a couple of days ago, like I said,
I'm in a group. I do take reports. I try
to do local investigations around here as well. And she
(11:17):
lives backed up to Fort Knox as well, and last
year there was a lot of where they cut the
timber down over in the area there Fort Knox. Fort
Knox is like twenty one thousand acres. She's got a
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ten acre stretch that back's right up to it and
it's all forestry, hilly streams, plenty of food sources. We
got dear galory around here. And she actually worked for
Fort Knox and at this time they had the helicopter.
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The black Hawks are coming in and doing their training
and she was helping them do that. Well, the training
was over with and they left, and then the following week,
she said, all of a sudden she was awakened by
two helicopters with their lights on that was like in
(12:21):
her backyard, and she said she heard the scream that
she could not even fathom what it could be, but
that it sounded like it was hurt. And these helicopters
were just steady hovering with their lights down in this
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one particular area of this tree line that backs up
into her backyard into Fort Knox. As well. So she
said that it screamed and then she said it went
into this like a guttural growl, is what her words were.
That it sounded like it was very angry, and let
(13:04):
out another long scream, she said, and then the helicopters
took off with their spotlights down on the ground, going
back toward the base like they were following something. The
next day she went down to look to see if
there was any thing that could have made that noise.
(13:29):
She had no idea what could have ever made that noise,
couldn't find anything. So when she went to work, she
was asking some of the guys there, the soldiers are
on Fort Knox. She said, so, when you guys are
out doing those night maneuvers, have you ever seen anything strange?
And they said, we are not allowed to discuss that
with anyone what we see. It's against regulations. And she said, well,
(13:57):
there was some over my house the other night, and
he said we can't discuss anything, and would not discuss
anything with her. Now she has not had that happen
since then, but she's had strange things as far as
like she had sinkos and like caves. There's a few
caves back through there, little caves, not like Mammoth Cave,
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but she has had a little like rock formations type
left there and she can't rule out that it wasn't
you know, a hunter or somebody like that, she said,
but it was just really strange because after that sound
and that the helicopters and everything that went on with
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that is that's when that started happening. So I'm going
to go out there in October and we're going to
do a weekend investigation out there with her as well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well it goes with us saying I hope you have
a great time out there.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
We're also going went to the l B L laying
between the lakes. It's where all the dog Man and
Big Good signings are supposed to be. We are going
there Labor Day weekend. It's a group of us. We're
going to do a complete investigation while we're there, set
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up all of our equipment. There's been friends of ours
that have got some extremely fascinating thermal evidence from there
just this year in February, so we're going to try
to see if we can find something as well there.
We've been before, but when we come a tornado did too,
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so we we didn't have much luck of that day.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But yeah, that's that's really about my story. I mean,
I'm just I'm really sir to find an answer. My
goal is to get everybody to collaborate on what they're finding.
Not well, you can't go over here. I don't want
you to know about this, you know, until we get
everybody And me. I'm science minded, I'm very science minded,
(16:19):
but I'm trying to bring that into it as well
as keeping an open mind to you know, there's so
many things that was discovered in science that people didn't
think were possible either, like electricity. You know, just keeping
your mind open to actually what is going on out
(16:42):
there that we really we just don't know about.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
From what you said just a moment ago, Chris, it's
almost like you think that people in the Sasquatch community
don't work together all that well.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's a lot of egos in the Sasquatch community, unfortunately. Uh.
I don't know if it's I understand part of it.
Like I do understand people who have found an area
and they're research in that area, and they don't want
a bunch of outsiders coming in and messing up a
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system that they have that's working. I do understand that,
but I do think that there's probably evidence that is
out there that people have not shared for either they
don't want to share it yet that's their evidence and
they want to hang on to it until they find more,
or they're afraid of ridical you know, that they're going
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to get laughed at, or they're going to say people
say it was faked, you know. With AI now I
can completely understand that. I'm in the audio myself. I
run things through spectrograms and everything to try to you know,
match because there's there's tons of animals out there. We
don't even know the sounds that make sometimes you know.
(17:58):
But I think that people really need to share a
little bit more information in the community and work together
more than work separate in the pockets all over the place.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That would be a beautiful thing. And yeah, we'd accomplish
so much more if that happened. It's just a shame
that it's so.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Hard to get that, it really is. And I think too.
A big thing of mine also is, you know, we
need to bring a lot more younger people into researching,
you know, not just what they've seen on TV and
going out there walking on trees and hollered, you know,
to actually research, do the forensic part of it, and
(18:38):
do you know the background on interviewing people and you know,
getting the feel of that because you know, we're all
getting up there in age I say me specifically, you know,
and we're not going to be able to go out
and trips around in the woods a whole lot longer.
And you know, we need to bring more younger people
in and teach them the right way to do it.
(18:59):
And you know, to me, teaching them the right way
to do it also includes sharing information.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know, it is doing your homework on this sort
of thing. That's not the fun part of it. But
there's a reason why that old adage about if you
only had an hour to cut down a tree, it'd
be best to spend fifty five minutes sharpening your axe
and then the remaining five minutes cutting it down. There's
a reason for that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, if you do your homework like you're talking about,
you're going to have much better results out there in
the field. I'm wondering, Chris, you said that you focus
on the audio side of this whole thing. Are you
decked out equipment wise with everything that you want to
have in the field or are there still things on
your wish list?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, I have a couple more things I wouldn't mind
him and I have the song meters. Wouldn't mind having
a couple more of those. Those are great. The sound
you get from those is a lot more clear. But
I several different just even the regular, you know, very
inexpensive audio equipment that you can go buy anywhere and
(20:08):
put those out. I've got a ton of cameras that
we use. I've got the monocular flear when we go
out and you know, I team up with a couple
of people and they have equipment as well, So we
really set out equipment everywhere, from trail cameras, but we
(20:29):
all know how those go to the song meters. You
know that we got outs. But yeah, I could use
a couple more of those.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I know that is It seems like there's always
something on that wish list. It seems like it's never complete.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
No, I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I do.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Now let me qualify this. I'm not saying that you
do this or you've ever done this, but I've spoken
with researchers who they take so much equipment out into
the field that they're so encumbered by it that they
missed something over here that they wouldn't have missed if
they didn't have so much equipment with them. Has anything
like that ever happened to you or do you know?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, I can tell you how we do it. Is
we actually before we go anywhere, we map it where
we're going to put the equipment based on longitude and latitude,
and we'll go out in the day and set all
the equipment up and that way when we're there, you know,
(21:36):
for three or four days. Once we set that equipment,
we don't touch it anymore. You know, we will take
the monocular out if we do see something. But you
can run the monocular I have. I can bluetooth it
to you know, your phone or an iPad, and so
(21:56):
you're not just looking through that monocular lens where you
know it does distort your vision after you look through it.
This way, you can look at you know, your iPad
or your phone, and you can see much better that
way when we use that at night. But we're out
there in the day looking for tracks, looking for hair,
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looking I'm not so big into the tree structures just
because there's just so much natural downfall and stuff with trees. Now,
if you get something that's cross patterned or we think, yeah,
that's interesting, but I try to really do it on
a forensic type level to make sure we had all
(22:44):
the evidence that points in the right direction. Because nobody's
an expert, not even doctor Meldrim, great guy, nobody's an expert.
You know, we don't have an actual creature to watch
to study. You know, we don't know what they eat,
We don't know. We all are just guessing, you know,
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we're doing our best estimates.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So yeah, that's all we can do until someone can
just take you by the hand and lead you up
to one. Yeah. I don't think there are going to
be any experts out there.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I agree, I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, definitely. Do you only research in areas where sightings
have been reported to you or do you also look
for areas to research.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
We look for areas to research. We kind of go
to a little bit more remote areas. We've done areas
in Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, mainly southeast area, getting ready to
go up into southern Indiana a little bit because just
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the forest that they have up there. We just try
to go in a little bit deep into some of
these forests because you do get more sightings in you know,
National Force Daniel Blue National Forest here in Kentucky, multiple signings,
but you got to go in a little deep you know,
or go into an area that's not so well trafficked
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by you know, vacationers things like that. It's always primitive
camping that we do. We try to be as quiet
as possible, you know, not disturb a lot of things,
but you know, we will pretty much go set up
anywhere that there's a deep forest.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well that's a good start. And if you try to
primitive camp how primitive.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Very primitive. On some cases, we do have a generator,
and we will run a generator occasionally if it's because sometimes,
like in February, it's pretty cold in some of these places.
This past year, we went out in February and oh
my goodness, it was like twenty four degrees outside. So
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we try to you know, run a little propane heaters
or something like that once in a while. But yeah,
we do mature regular tent camping.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You know, I listen to people talk about taking campers
and RV's out, and I'm far from saying that you
can't be effective as an investigator using an RV or
a camper, a trailer type, mobile home type situation, because yeah,
there are people out there that are getting it done,
who are getting it done doing it that way, but
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it seems like it would just have to be so
much easier if you do camp in a tent and
you just get out there and the place is where
that RV is not going to be able to make it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's the thing. We do have a trailer that we
take too as well sometimes, but like you said, there's
places that that can't go into. You know, there's places
in Georgia that are just little one lane potho city road.
Know that your trailer is not going to get back
(26:04):
there on you know. But then there's other places where
you can pull over and you can use the trailer
and which works out great, you know, especially if you're
trying to you know, look at so maybe the footage
because some of the cameras we have we set them
up around the campsite and their motion censored and so
(26:24):
anything that walks past it, you know, we can look
and see, you know what to set that camera off.
What was it, nine times out of tennis raccoons fit, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's nine times out of ten. But in a lot
of cases there's that one time out of however, many
where it's not raccoon, it's not a swamp kitty, and
that's what you're out there for.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That's right, absolutely, yep, absolutely, But yeah, the thing is
just get out there, you know, just get out there
and do it. If it's ten, can't we make sure
you're prepared. I mean, we come with medical kits. We
you know, we want to make sure we're prepared for
anything that can happen. Don't go out by yourself, nothing
(27:09):
like that, because I'm more afraid of like you know,
cougars and bears and those type of things that I
am actually a sasquatch.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So you know what the great thing about going out
and investigating is it's the fact that it's a no
lose situation. I mean, if you go out there for
the weekend to investigate and you get skunked, you don't
see anything, any sign whatsoever, you still spend a weekend
out in the woods like that.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's the best part is just getting out in nature,
you know, which That's what I said. I would love
for more younger people to come out with us and
to get involved of just you know, seeing what nature has,
seeing what it has to offer, how beautiful it is.
How much for me more at peace my whole body
(28:00):
is when I'm out in nature. You know, it's quiet,
you don't have all the ringing of the phoneses, you
don't you know, have to worry about work, or you
can just let things go and just be one with nature.
And to me, that's that is the best part.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, I definitely it doesn't get any better than that.
You talked about your majors. Is a hominology degree a
form of cryptozoology degree, Chris, or are the unrelated?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
There's there, they're related. There's two of them. You can
do hormonology or cryptozoology. They do parallel each other. Just
the hormonology is more just of you know, the homonym
type species, whereas cryptozoology is everything anything that's an unknown species.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I see you talk about a very useful degree, a
very useful major when it comes to researching, investigating. You know,
that's a really good idea. Considering the fact that you're
majoring in horminology in wildlife biology, you're the perfect person
to ask this question. And the question is how do
(29:09):
you think it is they can be so good at
so many things like running and jumping and sneaking through
the forest, the way they can silently do when they're
clearly adapted for breaciating from branch to branch.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's a very good question. My personal opinion is they
are just a master of their home. They have been
here for I believe hundreds of years and become masters
of the outdoors, and they have adapted and they learn,
you know, they watch, and that's how they learn is
(29:47):
by visual and instead of going through the trees like
you know they probably did many times, and I'm sure
the young ones do that, but that causes a second
cause of scene that could be seen that way.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I just think they're very stealthy. Like a lot of
animals are out in the woods, they're very stealthy as well.
I mean, you don't see a lot of bobcats or
a lot of cougars or mountain lions running around either.
They're very quiet and they'll sneak up buying in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Oh sure, yeah they will. But when you look at
their adaptations, the way they have compliant gates when they
walk their back feet step right into their footprints. They've
got so many adaptations where you'd expect them to be
so stealthy, but sasquatch walking the way they do, being
built the way they are, that's not the design that
(30:40):
you would pick for being so fast. I mean fast
enough to run down white tails, to run down anything
in the forest, and to be able to jump the
way they can. They can out jump anything of the
forest as well. They just don't have the right physical
build for that sort of thing. So it's almost done fair.
I've said this before. It's almost didn't fear that they're
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so good at so many things.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
True, I understand what you're saying, and I agree with that,
But like I said, we don't we don't really know
how their muscles are made up, you know, or we're
just like I said, we're all just kind of guessing
at what how they are made just by a picture
of Patty, you know, we're studying her picture in her frame,
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you know, and how she's built. And I mean, we
just don't know if their muscles are can contract more,
is it making more springy? You know? We honestly we
just don't know. I'm not sure how they do it.
That's what I'm saying, this is a very elusive creature
that has capabilities that we don't understand.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, that's one of the many frustrating things about these guys.
There's so much we don't understand. We probably never.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Will too, right, hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But seems like that's.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
How it is.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And that's a great lead into the next question, which
is meaturing in hormonology the way you are. Do you
know what apocrien glands are? And if you do, do
you think Sasquatch have them?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I honestly I can't answer those questions. I can't answer
that because I don't know. I don't have an actual
specimen to study. I mean, is it more horminology? Is it?
What is it? What is sasquatch? That is the million
dollar question? Is it a flesh and blood? Do they
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have capabilities that we don't have? You know, before I
got into studying more about them, I would have said
they're just an animal, flesh and blood. But what's all
these reports, like you're saying, of all these abilities that
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they are capable of doing from different people saying seeing
what if there's something different?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It does make you wonder, It really does, And I'm
sure a lot of people listening don't know what apocrin
glands are, and if that's you, apocrin glands are glands
that gorillas, for example, have in their armpits the medical
term for armpits or oxters. If you read any place
about apocrrion glands being located in a gorilla's oxters, that's
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what they're talking about, their arm pits. But they can
use these glands to emit a foul odor. And I'm
sure it's not lost on anyone listening. Sasquatch, they're known,
they're well known to emit a really smelly odor from
time to time. If they do have apocrin glands, then
that would definitely explain their ability to seemingly do that.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well, yeah, they could very well. It could be just
like you're skunks and they use them, as you know,
just for because they're scared. It could be attactic for distraction,
it could be a warning. It could be you know, I,
like I said, I never smelled anything, so I can't
personally say that they smell because I did not smell
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anything at all, There was no odor.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, well, if it didn't happen, that's all there is
to it. You never know, though, down the road you
might get skunked by one. It's hard to say that's right.
You never know. What do you make of the way
they leave those footprints in a straight line when they
walk like in the snow, for example. Can you think
of anything that would explain.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That footprints is really not? My buddy, he is very
good at footprints. I would assume it's kind of like
you know how bears will walk in their footprints as well.
I kind of think it maybe it's a long as
just the way they walk they're walking. Maybe some of
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them mark that will step in into footprints. Maybe they're not.
I really can't give any expert opinion on that as well.
Just from what I see, I mean, it looks like
they're just walking in a straight line.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Well, when you look at how straight one print is
with regards to the last one and the one in
front of it, and then you think about how why
their hips are I've got an idea theory why they
leave prints like that. If you look at a bridge,
it's going to have those stanchions on either side that
hold up the bridge. Well, when you look at how
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white a sasquatch's hips are going to be if they
took a step straight ahead so that their legs were
going straight down to the ground. That would create one
heck of a moment trying to tip them over to
the side. So I think they compensate for that by
putting their foot down more towards the middle mass of
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their body. That way, the mass of their body is
better supported, so they don't lose balance left or right
as they move. Were as a human, since our hips
compared to theirs, aren't nearly as wide, we can get
away with putting our feet straight down under our hip
joints for the most part, maybe not perfectly, but a
lot more so than what they do. That's just a
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theory on why they leave prins in a straight line
the way they do.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
That's a good theory.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I might be full of it, but just an idea.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
But this is what it's all about. It's people talking
and everybody given their theories. That's when I'm saying, if
everybody would come together in the community and just start
sharing what do they think? You know, and just like
you just did right there, you totally taught me something
of you know why that theory could be very true?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well, that might be what's behind it, but Yeah, like
I said, just a theory, but it's fun to throw
things out there and see what stick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
The one that gets me is when there's only one footprint.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Good point, that's hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Where's the rest of them?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I've got it. Maybe one of those government helicopters came
along and they just lowered one enough to make one print,
and then they picked it back up. That's what happens. Yeah,
and that sets up another good question for you. Why
do you think it is, Chris? The government shows so
much interest in these things, in these guys.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Oh, the same way that they did the aliens. You know,
they said aliens didn't exist for years, and then they
come out and they're like, well, yeah they do. I
think it could be for a number of reasons, not
to mention what it could do economically to certain industries.
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If and when it's found that they exist. It could
destroy some you know, industries, elogging industries that could Maybe
they're doing something with them, you know, you just you
don't know, you know, they, like I said, they hid
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the alien information from US forever. Who's to say they're not,
you know, hiding this from us. I've taken reports from
people on Fort Knox. I know there's a gentleman here
in Kentucky that is head of a popular organization. He
has taken multiple reports from sergeants lieutenants that were running
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maneuvers on Fort Knox that said that they were there,
and they you know, they actually killed a couple of
them on Fort Knox base. You know, whether that's true
or not, that was their story. I don't have any
evidence to prove or not prove it, but I would
think that they're aware because in some cases too, if
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you look, a lot of the reds are around bases
or government owned property. So I mean, there could be
some truth to it that they're just hiding them because
they're studying them trying to figure out how they can
do what they do, or I couldn't even really one
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hundred percent guess of why they would keep that from use.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I've heard some people wonder out loud why you find
so many Sasquatch on bases like that, And I think
it's really easy to explain away. I mean, think about it,
if you're a Sasquatch, if you have a very big
area like that that people don't normally go into very
often at all, which is how these huge bases are
Fort Knox and all these other bases. They have fences
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around them. Of course you've got drills and exercises that
happen out there, but when they do normally, it's pretty
easy to tell that they're going on, and just to
avoid all that activity, just move to a different part
of the base. So with all that in mind, I
think it makes perfect sense that you would find these
guys and droves out there on these military bases.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, I agree. I agree with you there, and I
do believe that they are because it's the same way.
It's what I was getting at about some of these
national parks. You know, that's all protected. There's no hunting
in these parks, and I think it's why they go
into the parks because that's where a lot of wildlife
is going to be, because there's plenty of it there
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and they have their their choice, you know, and it's
almost like they're protected just like the rest of the
wildlife in the park.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, that's a good point. Those are all really good
points of all the investigators out there, Chris. Are there
any out there who you'd give almost anything to be
able to hit the woods.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
With Oh my goodness, that's a really good question. I
would like to go out with David Ellis. And David Ellis,
I don't know if everybody knows who he is, but
he is a great researcher when it comes to sound.
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You can send him thanks and he'll be like, Nope,
this is what this is. This is this burd this
is a sound that this fox makes at this time
of year. I mean, he's really phenomenal when it comes
to sound. So I would not mind at all to
go out with David Ellis or Chris Spencer as well.
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He does. He's really good with sounds too.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Well, that's really impressive. You know, I can understand why
you would want to head out there into the woods
with him. I'm sure you'd pick up a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh yeah, But I love to learn, you know. That's
why I'm at my age still going back to school
after many other degrees. And I love the outdoors. So
I mean, anytime somebody can teach me something, I'm all
for it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Well that's a good way to be. You can never
stop learning, So I get it.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I do.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
When you're driving home from work that night and saw
that eye shine, was it position so that your car's
headlights were definitely hitting it and hence the eye shine.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Okay, I see, yeah, not self illuminating. It was definitely
an eye shine.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What are your thoughts on this whole self illuminating feature
that so many eye witnesses report. Do you think there's
any there there?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I honestly think it's I would really have to see
it for myself, you know, it's one of those. To
me personally, because I've seen the eye shine from my headlights,
I would have to just say it's just regular eyeshine
like other animals have, not self illuminating. But you know,
if I was to see self illuminating eyes, then yeah,
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I would say they were. But for me right now,
I just think it's just regular eyeshine.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, well that's Olkham's razor. There's a good reason for
that thought process too, because that's how normally is the
simplest explanation you've researched some sightings another eyewitnesses have had. Obviously,
how did all those eyewitnesses contact you? I know you
said that some of them found you through your Facebook group,
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but have all of them found you that way or
have some found you in another way?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Most of them through the Facebook group or if word
of mouth, you know, just some people talking and say, ah,
I know her because you know, like I said, once
I came out and told my story and knew I
wasn't going to get chast eyes at work that I
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was crazy. You would not believe how many people came
to me from work and was like, oh, well, let
me tell you. You know. Once I told my story,
then people just were like, well, let me tell you
what I heard, or let me tell you what I've seen,
and those type just those type of situations. It was
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kind of it was actually quite amazing, and I didn't
feel so alone, I guess is the word that people
would come to me and actually say, okay, well, now
that you've said it, let me tell you know, that
was That's kind of a good feeling.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's funny how that works once you put that out there.
It's not all the uncommon for the floodgates open, No,
that's all works. Sometimes. If anyone in Kentucky would like
to share their experience with you, what's the best way
for them to contact you?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
They can go on my Facebook page anytime and message me.
It's Chris Blaylock. Just look that up. I also have
a website called Sasquatch Cryptid Investigations. Can go on there
and leave your name and information, and I can temtuck
you that way as well.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
To make it really easy, what I'll do is I'll
put the link to your website and to your Facebook
page there in the description for tonight's show. You've got
to make it really easy for them to find you.
Thank you, Oh, you're welcome and glad to do it well.
Having said that, I can't thank you enough for coming
on to share the details of those experiences with us.
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I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it well.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You know, you're welcome. It's been a good time. Having
said that, thanks again so much for your time and
have a great night.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
Vic Keundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
like to be a guest on the show, please go
to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, Have a
great knight.
My name is Chris Blaylock. I am a registered nurse
by train. I actually run a home health agency. I'm
also working on my PhD in horminology and a bachelor's
in wildlife biology and conservation. I belong to a research
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group and I've actually started my own research group to
try to get some answers to help explain what I
saw and what I know millions of other people have
seen themselves. I just started telling my story last year because,
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as we all know, you know, for the longest time,
people would think that you're not saying when you tell
a story about a cryptid. But once I told it,
it was like a total relief. And now I'm out
there trying to encourage other people to tell their stories,
like I said, so we could get some answers to
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what some of these cryptids are. I did have a signing.
It was a class A signing. This was in Jefferson
Memorial Forest, which is in Fairdale, Kentucky. It's just outside
of Louisville's kind of a Louisville suburb. And the thing
about Kentucky is it's very hilly, it's very foresty. Where
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we went, it's your typical forest is you know, I'm
run by the government, so the forest department has you know,
rangers and everything there. But it was me and my brother.
This was back in nineteen eighty two, and it was
actually just about this time of year. It was early September.
We were getting ready to go back to school, and
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we decided to go up to the forest because there's
a pond there you can go fishing and just kind
of spend the day and enjoy the last few moments
this summer before we went back to school. Now, a
little backstep here is I have always been told about
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what my grandmother called the wooly booger. Because my grandmother
was from eastern Kentucky and my mother as well, so
we grew up knowing that there was creatures out there.
We were to be leary of them, not to go
out at night, never to whistle in the woods, those
type of things. My mother was an adventurer, so we
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would go on adventures when I was younger. So me
and my brother were up at this pond. We had
been fishing and just hanging out and it was getting
to be about around eight o'clock. A little dusky now
on the back of this pond It was very hilly
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and a bunch of trees, and I was walking back.
We were going back toward the parking area, and my
brother's standing there with pretty much his mouth open, and
I'm like, what are you looking at? And he just
kind of turned to my head and standing on his
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hill classic behind a tree was this creature. I couldn't
even guesstimate how tall it was at that time, because
you know, I was sixteen, but it was very tall.
It was a very big hickory nut tree that it
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was standing behind, his full hickory nuts up there, and
it was just standing there watching us. It was a
chestnut brown and color. The fur was the hair was long.
Wasn't first sorry, the hair was long, not matted, but
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not like it had been brushed. It just looked like hair.
No hair around the eyes or the nose. The arms
come to its knees, and at that moment, I'm just
standing there not my brain's trying to process what am
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I looking at? What is that? You know, you don't
even though you've been told about these creatures and you've
seen all the movies, you know, you still cannot wrap
your brain around exactly what are you looking at? So
we still just stood there and looked at it, and
it looked at us like it was studying us just
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as much as we were studying it. And it started
doing a little bit of the rocking from side to side,
and at that time then I got scared because I
was afraid it was going to come down off that
hill and cross over to where we were at. Even
though I never made that move. That just what was
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going in my mind at that time the fight or flight,
and mine was flight. So I started walking and it
would turn in its head and watching me as I walked,
and but my brother was just standing there. He would
not move, and I kept saying, Kenny, come on, come on,
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we gotta go. And it was continuing. The sun was
going down behind the mountain and hill there, so it
was getting really dark to on the side of where
the creature was standing, and I said, come on, we're
going to lose sight of it. It's getting dark. We
need we need to leave. We need to I want
to go. I want to go right now. And we
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started walking again, and it started walking toward the direction
of the car like it was kind of just following us.
And when it walked, then when it kind of turned sideways,
you could see kind of a little bit of the
conical head a little bit. It wasn't much. It really
wasn't as much as like Patty. It was more of
a rounder, very long stride, very long arm swing with it,
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and never made a noise. There was no smell whatsoever.
Didn't have any smell. And then when we stop, it
stopped and it would just turn around and look at
us again, like trying to get more face to face on.
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So I said, I'm going to the car. So I
went to the car and my brother was still standing there.
Then he turns around and he starts coming to the car.
He gets in the car because he's driving. I'm in
the passenger seat. And I turned around and look and
he's standing not with it. I mean it's like thirty
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feet from the vehicle. I say, he couldn't really tell
if it was that male or female. There was no breath,
So I'm saying he and just stood there and watched us.
Never did any type of motion, nothing, that just stood
there completely still and watched us and just kind of
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tilted head a little bit. So we put the car.
When we put the car, and you know, he backed
up and we went out and that was the end
of that story, and there was I have not seen
it up at that place again since then, but I
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do know there has been multiple people that have seen
in that same area, and that area actually backs up
toward it's within twenty miles of Fort Knox, and there's
been multiple multiple sightings of people talking about bigfoots being
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on Fort Knox. So I do believe that was a
part of maybe how they travel, you know, through that
area and up through Fort Knox and onto the bigger
lakes up toward past Fort Knox. And then last year
I moved more south central Kentucky and I was driving
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home and it was dark. I live about an hour
away from work. It takes me an hour to get home,
and I live out in the country, so it's all
country roads. There's usually nobody on the roads except for
farm equipment. And there was something cross the road. Stopped,
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turned and looked, and when it looked, it was the
biggest eyeshine I have ever seen in my life, just
two big, huge, round, white, very tall. It was not
a deer. I've taken out a couple of deer with
vehicles this year, so I thought it was not a deer.
It was a lot taller than that, following a power
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line across the road. Turned looked at me across the road,
and by the time I got to where it was,
there was no sight of it because I actually stopped
to look. And that's probably within thirty miles from I'm
not thirty, I'm sorry about twenty miles from my house
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right now. I have taken several reports from people in
this area, multiple wooden knocks. We were out one night
camping at Nolan Lake. It's a huge lake just outside
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of Litchfield, Kentucky, and we're sitting at the campfire and
you hear pop. He just allowed wood knock, and I thought,
everybody be quiet. I have recorders out because I take
recorders every time we go camping. Now and you heard
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it repeat again, knock, shine flaars. We went out, started looking,
never seen anything, heard another knock, and then the knocks
just went away. It's just like they wanted to let
us know, we know you're here. We're here, and you
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stayed on your side, We'll be fine. That is my
encounters that I have had. No I took a report
from a lady a couple of days ago, like I said,
I'm in a group. I do take reports. I try
to do local investigations around here as well. And she
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lives backed up to Fort Knox as well, and last
year there was a lot of where they cut the
timber down over in the area there Fort Knox. Fort
Knox is like twenty one thousand acres. She's got a
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ten acre stretch that back's right up to it and
it's all forestry, hilly streams, plenty of food sources. We
got dear galory around here. And she actually worked for
Fort Knox and at this time they had the helicopter.
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The black Hawks are coming in and doing their training
and she was helping them do that. Well, the training
was over with and they left, and then the following week,
she said, all of a sudden she was awakened by
two helicopters with their lights on that was like in
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her backyard, and she said she heard the scream that
she could not even fathom what it could be, but
that it sounded like it was hurt. And these helicopters
were just steady hovering with their lights down in this
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one particular area of this tree line that backs up
into her backyard into Fort Knox. As well. So she
said that it screamed and then she said it went
into this like a guttural growl, is what her words were.
That it sounded like it was very angry, and let
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out another long scream, she said, and then the helicopters
took off with their spotlights down on the ground, going
back toward the base like they were following something. The
next day she went down to look to see if
there was any thing that could have made that noise.
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She had no idea what could have ever made that noise,
couldn't find anything. So when she went to work, she
was asking some of the guys there, the soldiers are
on Fort Knox. She said, so, when you guys are
out doing those night maneuvers, have you ever seen anything strange?
And they said, we are not allowed to discuss that
with anyone what we see. It's against regulations. And she said, well,
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there was some over my house the other night, and
he said we can't discuss anything, and would not discuss
anything with her. Now she has not had that happen
since then, but she's had strange things as far as
like she had sinkos and like caves. There's a few
caves back through there, little caves, not like Mammoth Cave,
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but she has had a little like rock formations type
left there and she can't rule out that it wasn't
you know, a hunter or somebody like that, she said,
but it was just really strange because after that sound
and that the helicopters and everything that went on with
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that is that's when that started happening. So I'm going
to go out there in October and we're going to
do a weekend investigation out there with her as well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well it goes with us saying I hope you have
a great time out there.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
We're also going went to the l B L laying
between the lakes. It's where all the dog Man and
Big Good signings are supposed to be. We are going
there Labor Day weekend. It's a group of us. We're
going to do a complete investigation while we're there, set
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up all of our equipment. There's been friends of ours
that have got some extremely fascinating thermal evidence from there
just this year in February, so we're going to try
to see if we can find something as well there.
We've been before, but when we come a tornado did too,
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so we we didn't have much luck of that day.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But yeah, that's that's really about my story. I mean,
I'm just I'm really sir to find an answer. My
goal is to get everybody to collaborate on what they're finding.
Not well, you can't go over here. I don't want
you to know about this, you know, until we get
everybody And me. I'm science minded, I'm very science minded,
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but I'm trying to bring that into it as well
as keeping an open mind to you know, there's so
many things that was discovered in science that people didn't
think were possible either, like electricity. You know, just keeping
your mind open to actually what is going on out
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there that we really we just don't know about.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
From what you said just a moment ago, Chris, it's
almost like you think that people in the Sasquatch community
don't work together all that well.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's a lot of egos in the Sasquatch community, unfortunately. Uh.
I don't know if it's I understand part of it.
Like I do understand people who have found an area
and they're research in that area, and they don't want
a bunch of outsiders coming in and messing up a
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system that they have that's working. I do understand that,
but I do think that there's probably evidence that is
out there that people have not shared for either they
don't want to share it yet that's their evidence and
they want to hang on to it until they find more,
or they're afraid of ridical you know, that they're going
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to get laughed at, or they're going to say people
say it was faked, you know. With AI now I
can completely understand that. I'm in the audio myself. I
run things through spectrograms and everything to try to you know,
match because there's there's tons of animals out there. We
don't even know the sounds that make sometimes you know.
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But I think that people really need to share a
little bit more information in the community and work together
more than work separate in the pockets all over the place.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That would be a beautiful thing. And yeah, we'd accomplish
so much more if that happened. It's just a shame
that it's so.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Hard to get that, it really is. And I think too.
A big thing of mine also is, you know, we
need to bring a lot more younger people into researching,
you know, not just what they've seen on TV and
going out there walking on trees and hollered, you know,
to actually research, do the forensic part of it, and
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do you know the background on interviewing people and you know,
getting the feel of that because you know, we're all
getting up there in age I say me specifically, you know,
and we're not going to be able to go out
and trips around in the woods a whole lot longer.
And you know, we need to bring more younger people
in and teach them the right way to do it.
(18:59):
And you know, to me, teaching them the right way
to do it also includes sharing information.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know, it is doing your homework on this sort
of thing. That's not the fun part of it. But
there's a reason why that old adage about if you
only had an hour to cut down a tree, it'd
be best to spend fifty five minutes sharpening your axe
and then the remaining five minutes cutting it down. There's
a reason for that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, if you do your homework like you're talking about,
you're going to have much better results out there in
the field. I'm wondering, Chris, you said that you focus
on the audio side of this whole thing. Are you
decked out equipment wise with everything that you want to
have in the field or are there still things on
your wish list?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, I have a couple more things I wouldn't mind
him and I have the song meters. Wouldn't mind having
a couple more of those. Those are great. The sound
you get from those is a lot more clear. But
I several different just even the regular, you know, very
inexpensive audio equipment that you can go buy anywhere and
(20:08):
put those out. I've got a ton of cameras that
we use. I've got the monocular flear when we go
out and you know, I team up with a couple
of people and they have equipment as well, So we
really set out equipment everywhere, from trail cameras, but we
(20:29):
all know how those go to the song meters. You
know that we got outs. But yeah, I could use
a couple more of those.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I know that is It seems like there's always
something on that wish list. It seems like it's never complete.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
No, I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I do.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Now let me qualify this. I'm not saying that you
do this or you've ever done this, but I've spoken
with researchers who they take so much equipment out into
the field that they're so encumbered by it that they
missed something over here that they wouldn't have missed if
they didn't have so much equipment with them. Has anything
like that ever happened to you or do you know?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, I can tell you how we do it. Is
we actually before we go anywhere, we map it where
we're going to put the equipment based on longitude and latitude,
and we'll go out in the day and set all
the equipment up and that way when we're there, you know,
(21:36):
for three or four days. Once we set that equipment,
we don't touch it anymore. You know, we will take
the monocular out if we do see something. But you
can run the monocular I have. I can bluetooth it
to you know, your phone or an iPad, and so
(21:56):
you're not just looking through that monocular lens where you
know it does distort your vision after you look through it.
This way, you can look at you know, your iPad
or your phone, and you can see much better that
way when we use that at night. But we're out
there in the day looking for tracks, looking for hair,
(22:21):
looking I'm not so big into the tree structures just
because there's just so much natural downfall and stuff with trees. Now,
if you get something that's cross patterned or we think, yeah,
that's interesting, but I try to really do it on
a forensic type level to make sure we had all
(22:44):
the evidence that points in the right direction. Because nobody's
an expert, not even doctor Meldrim, great guy, nobody's an expert.
You know, we don't have an actual creature to watch
to study. You know, we don't know what they eat,
We don't know. We all are just guessing, you know,
(23:06):
we're doing our best estimates.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So yeah, that's all we can do until someone can
just take you by the hand and lead you up
to one. Yeah. I don't think there are going to
be any experts out there.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I agree, I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, definitely. Do you only research in areas where sightings
have been reported to you or do you also look
for areas to research.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
We look for areas to research. We kind of go
to a little bit more remote areas. We've done areas
in Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, mainly southeast area, getting ready to
go up into southern Indiana a little bit because just
(23:49):
the forest that they have up there. We just try
to go in a little bit deep into some of
these forests because you do get more sightings in you know,
National Force Daniel Blue National Forest here in Kentucky, multiple signings,
but you got to go in a little deep you know,
or go into an area that's not so well trafficked
(24:11):
by you know, vacationers things like that. It's always primitive
camping that we do. We try to be as quiet
as possible, you know, not disturb a lot of things,
but you know, we will pretty much go set up
anywhere that there's a deep forest.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well that's a good start. And if you try to
primitive camp how primitive.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Very primitive. On some cases, we do have a generator,
and we will run a generator occasionally if it's because sometimes,
like in February, it's pretty cold in some of these places.
This past year, we went out in February and oh
my goodness, it was like twenty four degrees outside. So
(25:02):
we try to you know, run a little propane heaters
or something like that once in a while. But yeah,
we do mature regular tent camping.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You know, I listen to people talk about taking campers
and RV's out, and I'm far from saying that you
can't be effective as an investigator using an RV or
a camper, a trailer type, mobile home type situation, because yeah,
there are people out there that are getting it done,
who are getting it done doing it that way, but
(25:33):
it seems like it would just have to be so
much easier if you do camp in a tent and
you just get out there and the place is where
that RV is not going to be able to make it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's the thing. We do have a trailer that we
take too as well sometimes, but like you said, there's
places that that can't go into. You know, there's places
in Georgia that are just little one lane potho city road.
Know that your trailer is not going to get back
(26:04):
there on you know. But then there's other places where
you can pull over and you can use the trailer
and which works out great, you know, especially if you're
trying to you know, look at so maybe the footage
because some of the cameras we have we set them
up around the campsite and their motion censored and so
(26:24):
anything that walks past it, you know, we can look
and see, you know what to set that camera off.
What was it, nine times out of tennis raccoons fit, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's nine times out of ten. But in a lot
of cases there's that one time out of however, many
where it's not raccoon, it's not a swamp kitty, and
that's what you're out there for.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That's right, absolutely, yep, absolutely, But yeah, the thing is
just get out there, you know, just get out there
and do it. If it's ten, can't we make sure
you're prepared. I mean, we come with medical kits. We
you know, we want to make sure we're prepared for
anything that can happen. Don't go out by yourself, nothing
(27:09):
like that, because I'm more afraid of like you know,
cougars and bears and those type of things that I
am actually a sasquatch.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So you know what the great thing about going out
and investigating is it's the fact that it's a no
lose situation. I mean, if you go out there for
the weekend to investigate and you get skunked, you don't
see anything, any sign whatsoever, you still spend a weekend
out in the woods like that.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's the best part is just getting out in nature,
you know, which That's what I said. I would love
for more younger people to come out with us and
to get involved of just you know, seeing what nature has,
seeing what it has to offer, how beautiful it is.
How much for me more at peace my whole body
(28:00):
is when I'm out in nature. You know, it's quiet,
you don't have all the ringing of the phoneses, you
don't you know, have to worry about work, or you
can just let things go and just be one with nature.
And to me, that's that is the best part.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, I definitely it doesn't get any better than that.
You talked about your majors. Is a hominology degree a
form of cryptozoology degree, Chris, or are the unrelated?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
There's there, they're related. There's two of them. You can
do hormonology or cryptozoology. They do parallel each other. Just
the hormonology is more just of you know, the homonym
type species, whereas cryptozoology is everything anything that's an unknown species.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I see you talk about a very useful degree, a
very useful major when it comes to researching, investigating. You know,
that's a really good idea. Considering the fact that you're
majoring in horminology in wildlife biology, you're the perfect person
to ask this question. And the question is how do
(29:09):
you think it is they can be so good at
so many things like running and jumping and sneaking through
the forest, the way they can silently do when they're
clearly adapted for breaciating from branch to branch.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's a very good question. My personal opinion is they
are just a master of their home. They have been
here for I believe hundreds of years and become masters
of the outdoors, and they have adapted and they learn,
you know, they watch, and that's how they learn is
(29:47):
by visual and instead of going through the trees like
you know they probably did many times, and I'm sure
the young ones do that, but that causes a second
cause of scene that could be seen that way.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I just think they're very stealthy. Like a lot of
animals are out in the woods, they're very stealthy as well.
I mean, you don't see a lot of bobcats or
a lot of cougars or mountain lions running around either.
They're very quiet and they'll sneak up buying in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Oh sure, yeah they will. But when you look at
their adaptations, the way they have compliant gates when they
walk their back feet step right into their footprints. They've
got so many adaptations where you'd expect them to be
so stealthy, but sasquatch walking the way they do, being
built the way they are, that's not the design that
(30:40):
you would pick for being so fast. I mean fast
enough to run down white tails, to run down anything
in the forest, and to be able to jump the
way they can. They can out jump anything of the
forest as well. They just don't have the right physical
build for that sort of thing. So it's almost done fair.
I've said this before. It's almost didn't fear that they're
(31:01):
so good at so many things.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
True, I understand what you're saying, and I agree with that,
But like I said, we don't we don't really know
how their muscles are made up, you know, or we're
just like I said, we're all just kind of guessing
at what how they are made just by a picture
of Patty, you know, we're studying her picture in her frame,
(31:26):
you know, and how she's built. And I mean, we
just don't know if their muscles are can contract more,
is it making more springy? You know? We honestly we
just don't know. I'm not sure how they do it.
That's what I'm saying, this is a very elusive creature
that has capabilities that we don't understand.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, that's one of the many frustrating things about these guys.
There's so much we don't understand. We probably never.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Will too, right, hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But seems like that's.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
How it is.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And that's a great lead into the next question, which
is meaturing in hormonology the way you are. Do you
know what apocrien glands are? And if you do, do
you think Sasquatch have them?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I honestly I can't answer those questions. I can't answer
that because I don't know. I don't have an actual
specimen to study. I mean, is it more horminology? Is it?
What is it? What is sasquatch? That is the million
dollar question? Is it a flesh and blood? Do they
(32:37):
have capabilities that we don't have? You know, before I
got into studying more about them, I would have said
they're just an animal, flesh and blood. But what's all
these reports, like you're saying, of all these abilities that
(32:58):
they are capable of doing from different people saying seeing
what if there's something different?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It does make you wonder, It really does, And I'm
sure a lot of people listening don't know what apocrin
glands are, and if that's you, apocrin glands are glands
that gorillas, for example, have in their armpits the medical
term for armpits or oxters. If you read any place
about apocrrion glands being located in a gorilla's oxters, that's
(33:34):
what they're talking about, their arm pits. But they can
use these glands to emit a foul odor. And I'm
sure it's not lost on anyone listening. Sasquatch, they're known,
they're well known to emit a really smelly odor from
time to time. If they do have apocrin glands, then
that would definitely explain their ability to seemingly do that.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well, yeah, they could very well. It could be just
like you're skunks and they use them, as you know,
just for because they're scared. It could be attactic for distraction,
it could be a warning. It could be you know, I,
like I said, I never smelled anything, so I can't
personally say that they smell because I did not smell
(34:18):
anything at all, There was no odor.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, well, if it didn't happen, that's all there is
to it. You never know, though, down the road you
might get skunked by one. It's hard to say that's right.
You never know. What do you make of the way
they leave those footprints in a straight line when they
walk like in the snow, for example. Can you think
of anything that would explain.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That footprints is really not? My buddy, he is very
good at footprints. I would assume it's kind of like
you know how bears will walk in their footprints as well.
I kind of think it maybe it's a long as
just the way they walk they're walking. Maybe some of
(35:02):
them mark that will step in into footprints. Maybe they're not.
I really can't give any expert opinion on that as well.
Just from what I see, I mean, it looks like
they're just walking in a straight line.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Well, when you look at how straight one print is
with regards to the last one and the one in
front of it, and then you think about how why
their hips are I've got an idea theory why they
leave prints like that. If you look at a bridge,
it's going to have those stanchions on either side that
hold up the bridge. Well, when you look at how
(35:41):
white a sasquatch's hips are going to be if they
took a step straight ahead so that their legs were
going straight down to the ground. That would create one
heck of a moment trying to tip them over to
the side. So I think they compensate for that by
putting their foot down more towards the middle mass of
(36:02):
their body. That way, the mass of their body is
better supported, so they don't lose balance left or right
as they move. Were as a human, since our hips
compared to theirs, aren't nearly as wide, we can get
away with putting our feet straight down under our hip
joints for the most part, maybe not perfectly, but a
lot more so than what they do. That's just a
(36:24):
theory on why they leave prins in a straight line
the way they do.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
That's a good theory.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I might be full of it, but just an idea.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
But this is what it's all about. It's people talking
and everybody given their theories. That's when I'm saying, if
everybody would come together in the community and just start
sharing what do they think? You know, and just like
you just did right there, you totally taught me something
of you know why that theory could be very true?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well, that might be what's behind it, but Yeah, like
I said, just a theory, but it's fun to throw
things out there and see what stick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
The one that gets me is when there's only one footprint.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Good point, that's hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Where's the rest of them?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I've got it. Maybe one of those government helicopters came
along and they just lowered one enough to make one print,
and then they picked it back up. That's what happens. Yeah,
and that sets up another good question for you. Why
do you think it is, Chris? The government shows so
much interest in these things, in these guys.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Oh, the same way that they did the aliens. You know,
they said aliens didn't exist for years, and then they
come out and they're like, well, yeah they do. I
think it could be for a number of reasons, not
to mention what it could do economically to certain industries.
(37:52):
If and when it's found that they exist. It could
destroy some you know, industries, elogging industries that could Maybe
they're doing something with them, you know, you just you
don't know, you know, they, like I said, they hid
(38:12):
the alien information from US forever. Who's to say they're not,
you know, hiding this from us. I've taken reports from
people on Fort Knox. I know there's a gentleman here
in Kentucky that is head of a popular organization. He
has taken multiple reports from sergeants lieutenants that were running
(38:37):
maneuvers on Fort Knox that said that they were there,
and they you know, they actually killed a couple of
them on Fort Knox base. You know, whether that's true
or not, that was their story. I don't have any
evidence to prove or not prove it, but I would
think that they're aware because in some cases too, if
(38:58):
you look, a lot of the reds are around bases
or government owned property. So I mean, there could be
some truth to it that they're just hiding them because
they're studying them trying to figure out how they can
do what they do, or I couldn't even really one
(39:20):
hundred percent guess of why they would keep that from use.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I've heard some people wonder out loud why you find
so many Sasquatch on bases like that, And I think
it's really easy to explain away. I mean, think about it,
if you're a Sasquatch, if you have a very big
area like that that people don't normally go into very
often at all, which is how these huge bases are
Fort Knox and all these other bases. They have fences
(39:47):
around them. Of course you've got drills and exercises that
happen out there, but when they do normally, it's pretty
easy to tell that they're going on, and just to
avoid all that activity, just move to a different part
of the base. So with all that in mind, I
think it makes perfect sense that you would find these
guys and droves out there on these military bases.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, I agree. I agree with you there, and I
do believe that they are because it's the same way.
It's what I was getting at about some of these
national parks. You know, that's all protected. There's no hunting
in these parks, and I think it's why they go
into the parks because that's where a lot of wildlife
is going to be, because there's plenty of it there
(40:30):
and they have their their choice, you know, and it's
almost like they're protected just like the rest of the
wildlife in the park.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, that's a good point. Those are all really good
points of all the investigators out there, Chris. Are there
any out there who you'd give almost anything to be
able to hit the woods.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
With Oh my goodness, that's a really good question. I
would like to go out with David Ellis. And David Ellis,
I don't know if everybody knows who he is, but
he is a great researcher when it comes to sound.
(41:12):
You can send him thanks and he'll be like, Nope,
this is what this is. This is this burd this
is a sound that this fox makes at this time
of year. I mean, he's really phenomenal when it comes
to sound. So I would not mind at all to
go out with David Ellis or Chris Spencer as well.
(41:34):
He does. He's really good with sounds too.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Well, that's really impressive. You know, I can understand why
you would want to head out there into the woods
with him. I'm sure you'd pick up a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh yeah, But I love to learn, you know. That's
why I'm at my age still going back to school
after many other degrees. And I love the outdoors. So
I mean, anytime somebody can teach me something, I'm all
for it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Well that's a good way to be. You can never
stop learning, So I get it.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I do.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
When you're driving home from work that night and saw
that eye shine, was it position so that your car's
headlights were definitely hitting it and hence the eye shine.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Okay, I see, yeah, not self illuminating. It was definitely
an eye shine.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What are your thoughts on this whole self illuminating feature
that so many eye witnesses report. Do you think there's
any there there?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I honestly think it's I would really have to see
it for myself, you know, it's one of those. To
me personally, because I've seen the eye shine from my headlights,
I would have to just say it's just regular eyeshine
like other animals have, not self illuminating. But you know,
if I was to see self illuminating eyes, then yeah,
(42:54):
I would say they were. But for me right now,
I just think it's just regular eyeshine.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, well that's Olkham's razor. There's a good reason for
that thought process too, because that's how normally is the
simplest explanation you've researched some sightings another eyewitnesses have had. Obviously,
how did all those eyewitnesses contact you? I know you
said that some of them found you through your Facebook group,
(43:22):
but have all of them found you that way or
have some found you in another way?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Most of them through the Facebook group or if word
of mouth, you know, just some people talking and say, ah,
I know her because you know, like I said, once
I came out and told my story and knew I
wasn't going to get chast eyes at work that I
(43:49):
was crazy. You would not believe how many people came
to me from work and was like, oh, well, let
me tell you. You know. Once I told my story,
then people just were like, well, let me tell you
what I heard, or let me tell you what I've seen,
and those type just those type of situations. It was
(44:10):
kind of it was actually quite amazing, and I didn't
feel so alone, I guess is the word that people
would come to me and actually say, okay, well, now
that you've said it, let me tell you know, that
was That's kind of a good feeling.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's funny how that works once you put that out there.
It's not all the uncommon for the floodgates open, No,
that's all works. Sometimes. If anyone in Kentucky would like
to share their experience with you, what's the best way
for them to contact you?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
They can go on my Facebook page anytime and message me.
It's Chris Blaylock. Just look that up. I also have
a website called Sasquatch Cryptid Investigations. Can go on there
and leave your name and information, and I can temtuck
you that way as well.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
To make it really easy, what I'll do is I'll
put the link to your website and to your Facebook
page there in the description for tonight's show. You've got
to make it really easy for them to find you.
Thank you, Oh, you're welcome and glad to do it well.
Having said that, I can't thank you enough for coming
on to share the details of those experiences with us.
(45:25):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it well.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You know, you're welcome. It's been a good time. Having
said that, thanks again so much for your time and
have a great night.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
Vic Keundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
like to be a guest on the show, please go
to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, Have a
great knight.
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