December 4, 2025 • 42 mins
Don Niesen has lived in Central Wisconsin for about 25 years now. He describes Central Wisconsin as being a totally different world from where he grew up in Racine, Wisconsin. After moving to Central Wisconsin, he’s had multiple encounters with various types of wildlife, but none of those encounters moved the needle for Don nearly as much as an encounter he had while he was driving to his parent’s house, one evening. As he was driving down a rural section of highway, heading to their house, he was on the lookout for deer. Deer-related car crashes are a big problem in that area. All of a sudden, up ahead, he could see a large, black figure, on the side of the road, pulling at something in the ditch. At first, Don thought it was a bear. Then, it did something no bear could do and at that moment, Don’s jaw dropped. We hope you’ll tune in to tonight’s show and listen to Don share all the details from that experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
My name is Don Neeson and I've lived in the
center of the state of Wisconsin for about twenty five
years now. I moved here from Racine, Wisconsin, so I
grew up in a city, and it's a totally different
world here. There's a lot of wildlife. I've had a
(00:37):
lot of wildlife encounters. I've seen bear, I've seen wolves.
I've seen so many deer I can't even tell you,
probably thousands. And I had the good fortune of being
able to work for a company that owned multiple acres
(00:59):
of land and so got to spend a lot of
time in.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
The woods and get close with the woods.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And I worked on different projects that way. But what
brought us up up here originally was we vacationed here
when I was young and spent time on the chain
of Lakes in Wapaca. My parents, their retirement home is
in Wapaca, and I live there with them now. And
(01:27):
I was living in wild Rolls with my family at
the time that I had an encounter with something that
I really at first didn't understand what it was. And
I was heading to Wapaca from Wild Rolls, so coming
from the south on Highway twenty two, and it crosses
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through a corner of Portage County, And in this little
corner of Portage County, which is about halfway between the two,
is where I had my encounter with this creature that
in my mind, I wasn't fully aware of what I
(02:10):
saw at the time because it took me by surprise
because I I was approaching from a distance and it
was a big curve. Well there was all woods on
the side and a road that goes up into the
woods up to a hillside, and I was approaching up
towards that road that goes up the hillside, and I
(02:35):
was probably about three hundred feet away from that intersection
as I was approaching where I first saw this black
furry thing moving. And I call it a creature right now,
because I thought it was a bear at first that
(02:59):
I was seeing because it was the color of a
black bear around here that I've seen before. But as
I got closer, it was moving in a way that
I didn't understand. It didn't make sense for like a
walking bear. But the bigger surprise was when I got
(03:23):
closer to it. This thing was moving around and then
in paw like pawing or pulling at something in the ditch,
and as I got closer, it stood up. And that's
(03:45):
when I was like in absolute shock. So now this
is happening. When I'm closing, I'm about thirty feet away
from it as it makes this motion to stand, and
I'm looking to the side and I see this enormous,
what I would describe as ten foot black furry animal
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thing stand up and my brain is short circuiting as
I'm going past this because I'm going, well, oh, that's
not a bear. And I went to look in the
mirror as I went past because I'm doing sixty and
I mean, all of this happened in the time about
(04:31):
two minutes where I'm trying to figure out what I'm
looking at. I see something and then it takes this
form of this ten foot tall furry animal. And I
didn't even think sasquatch at the time. I just knew
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it wasn't a bear, and I was trying to figure
out what this was that I actually saw, And you
got now I'm like ten minutes more ride to my
parents' house at this time, and I'm having this argument
like with myself in my mind and actually out loud,
like I'm going, well, I don't know, I didn't see it.
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I think that it looked like the color of a bear,
but that was way too big to be a bear.
And that was the thing about it to me, is
it was this the size of it and the width
of it at the shoulders when it stood, and it
was in a ditch, and this thing was still taller
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than my car while it was standing in the ditch.
It was that tall. And I passed it and I
had to be you know, I was on the other
lane of the highway. I had to be within thirty
feet of this enormous creature that I was looking at.
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But it was so fast that I I couldn't get
the details, like to make out a facial features out
of it. And it was there was a shadow that
was being cast over the road at that time. It
was late, it was almost towards sunset, you know, where
it's still a bit bright out, but there's long shadows everywhere,
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So that kind of contributed to that I couldn't make
out the details because I was in the side of
the road that was brighter and the shadow was being
cast over that side of the road. So I proceeded
to go to my parents' house because that's what I
was doing, was on my way to visit my parents
that evening, just to say hi and whatever and well,
(06:43):
and when I got here, I'm I'm like in shock,
and I'm like, I don't you know. I'm telling my
parents about it, and I'm like, I don't know what
I saw, but I saw something really big and black,
but it wasn't a bear, I'm telling I said, But
they're like, are you sure it wasn't a bear? And
(07:04):
I'm like yeah, I'm like I had this argument myself
with myself for ten minutes here, and I know it
wasn't a bear. I'm convinced that it wasn't a bear,
but I don't really know what it was. But it
was enormous, And when I got to thinking about it later,
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I was like, you know, that had to be a bigfoot.
It had to be a sasquatch that I saw, because
there's nothing else that's that enormous that I've heard anybody
ever describe. So that got me interested in the subject
of it and looking into it. And one of the
facts I found out about it was that, in particular
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that sasquatch sightings or bigfoot sightings or whatever you want
to call them in Wisconsin and in Minnesota tend to
be black in color and large, nine to ten feet.
So this, you know, research that I did a little
bit of, you know, just checking out online and stuff
like that, explained it more to me than I could
(08:19):
figure out kind of on my own. And besides that,
and you know, that's the only time I've had a
visual contact encounter with a sasquatch. And I say it
now that that's what it was, was a bigfoot in
a sasquatch. And I say it with confidence because I
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know what I saw. I know I've never seen anything
like it, and I know it was way bigger than
any bear I've ever seen, and I've seen three in
the area here, just you know, in the wild. So
I was I was left with a lot of questions,
(09:02):
but a lot but it kind of sparked an interest
in me in it, but I didn't really I don't know,
other than have a loose interest in tell people my
story about how I really believed I had encountered a bigfoot,
and a lot of people you know, are skeptical about it,
and a lot of people you know give you the up. Yeah, Okay,
sure you know all these things, but you know that's
(09:26):
because they've never experienced anything like that. Besides that, a
different encounter I had is because I'm here on a lake.
We got a we're on a thirty acre lake, and
we're on a peninsula. And what it is is that
late at night, and I used to smoke cigarettes. I
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don't anymore, I quit a couple of years ago, but
at the time, you know, when you're a smoker, you'll
get up weird hours of the night and have cigarettes
or whatever it is when you get up. And it
just so happened to be that one time I got up,
it was about two in the morning, and I stepped
(10:07):
out on the deck because my parents don't smoke, so
I stepped out on the deck and I had a cigarette,
and off in the distance, I heard what I knew
now from looking into things to be a sasquatch. And
I'd heard plenty of coyotes and howling at night and
(10:29):
all the different cackling they do, and they pretty much
dominate the night sounds around here. When you hear things,
I mean, sometimes you'll hear raccoons, you know, chattering away
down by the water. But this sound that I heard
was definitely what people describe as a sasquatch. And the
thing about it was that sound carried and echoed like
(10:53):
through the hills here in this lake area that I
live in. And the thing about it was in that
first one was that there was an answer back to
that first call that here and I'm like, what the
heck am I experiencing here? I'm like, it was crazy.
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It was as as loud, but from the left hand side,
where the original call that I heard was from the
right hand side. So this thing had called back to
this other sound at a great distance, and I was
(11:36):
like really impressed with it, And I mean it was
the thing about it was it was so.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Much force behind.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It wasn't like I've heard lyons roar, and this thing
was deeper and more.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Extended and full tone to it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, then I had I told my brother about this story,
and I've had told him about my encounter that I had,
and he was visiting here and we had heard we
had heard that together.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
That night and.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So it was a separate occasion that I had heard
the solo one with my brother, but the two that
I heard call back I had.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Told him about before that happened.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So it was just odd. And the thing is is,
it's not like I was trying to I wasn't seeking
out to hear this, just like I wasn't seeking out
to see the sasquatch that I saw. These are things
that I don't know. They just happened, is the best
(12:54):
way I can describe them. So the only experiences I
had other than that is, you know, I've had one
friend that was interested in it. I had one friend
that I worked with that me and him used to
(13:16):
do sasquatch calls through a cone, you know, to see
like if we could get responses to it. And you
know what I mean, like a big traffic cone because
it sounded like those sounds almost, you know what I mean.
So we were playing around because there's a lot of
deer in the woods in our area, so we thought,
hey man, you know, if there's a sasquatch around, and
(13:38):
I had seen one before that I was telling them about, well,
you know, maybe we'd get a response, but we never did.
You know I never heard any knocking or I never
heard any response to what we were doing. But I
think he believed that I had experienced what I did.
(13:58):
And I know that if another friend of mine that
he's a Sasquatch guy, and I know that he believes
in the story that I told him, because that's pretty
much how I ended up here. And that's my buddy Jason.
So that's about all I have to say.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What's better than having a sasquatch sighting having friends who
will do calls with you and help you do research
and investigations. That's great. You've got friends that will help
you do that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, yeah, it's nice because I mean, it made me
feel better because I mean mostly I meet with skepticism
on the subject of it. But it's nice that some people.
And hey, my brother couldn't deny what he heard that night,
that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'll bet he couldn't, just like I couldn't. I'm like,
what else is that?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts going through your head.
You told us that you live in the center of Wisconsin,
down is the center of the state. Theory you think
would be most inviting to sasquatch or do you think
another part of the state would be more impediently.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I've been to the far North, and I think the
far North would. But I think what the main thing
that would bring sasquatch to this area is the very
large population of deer that we have here. I mean,
it's it's a huge population here. I heard that over
half the herd is in the three counties near us.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, that is a lot of deer. With that in mind,
is central Wisconsin known to have a lot of sasquatch
sidings because it sure sounds to me like a great
place for them to live.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, to my knowledge, I have yet to run into
another individual that says, hey, they have seen that before.
But I didn't grow up here either, you know. But
what I can tell you about the area is it's
way more wooded than people think, and there's a lot
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of food for the deer. And we have milder a
bit winters, you know. So there's a lot of things
that are conducive to the wildlife around here. And we
have a lot of good clean water because it's in
the sand plains of the state, so you know, a
(16:26):
lot of filtered spring fed water sources around here.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, well more could they ask for sounds like a
great place for them.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, yeah, that And what I'll also say is we
do have a bit of topography around here that people
wouldn't think, I guess necessarily common here because you know,
we're not that far from the Dells area, so you
know there's a lot of that topography you know, that
carries through this area that way.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, they love that too. Powermolt was that area we
had sighting.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, it's a pretty what it is is there's a
big dairy farm, there's a big pig farm, and a
big goat farm, and it's like all rate as you cross,
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and what there used to be is a lot of
like corn crop and soybean crop fields. And I'm describing
the area as I'm approaching this area and then it
gets a bit hilly right where that curve is like,
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and then down in the dip in the valley side
on the right side is big farm fields and big
potato farms, and it's like hundreds of acres of that.
But each one of these patches are divided by kind
of big thick wooded area. There is a small farmhouse
(18:06):
in the valley to the right of that area. And
then on the left about I don't know, five hundred
feet past where I sighted, near that corner, there's a
small home, but it's set back on the hillside and
the woods there and the properties that are in that
(18:28):
area like that, you know, they'll have say thirty forty
acres and a house in the middle of it, and
it's tucked into the woods. So it's not really highly
developed at all in that area as far as you know,
any kind of industry or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It's farmland and woods.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Perfect habitat form. That explains a lot. Was there anything
about the road you're driving on that night that could
explain why the sasquatch didn't conceal it before you came
along and we're able to see it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, I just think because we were approaching that you
know that dusk kind of time, you know, so sunset
dusk kind of time, and because I see a lot
of animals on the move then here, to be honest
with you, so it doesn't really surprise me that they
would be, you know, comfortable at that time, just like
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the deer are.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, that explains a way. It's concerns about you possibly
being able to see it, but was there anything about
the topography that might make it easy to understand how
it couldn't have heard you from a long way off?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Often, Well, it was. I would say that it pretty
much didn't care about me other than un till I
was right on it. It was minding its own business,
like you know what I mean. It was about whatever
it had found in that ditch, and the thing was
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that reacted to me approaching. So it must have been
pretty occupied with whatever it was doing.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It must have been, but that's still kind of unusual
for these guys. But then again, on the other hand,
if you're a ten foot tall sasquatch, I wouldn't imagine
that you worry about much.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Right, Yeah, I mean, what's it really afraid of? I
mean it was well off the road, like you understand
what I mean, in the ditch side, so it wasn't
like it was anywhere near. And you would think if
something's like I don't know, if something's in an area,
you would think that it probably gets used to a
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certain amount of the traffic that goes by through the area.
It's a truck route, you know, so you just would
kind of logically think it may get used to traffic
to some degree. But I'll tell you what happened because
of the deer population is there's a lot of deer
that could hit on these roads, and on Highway twenty two. Myself,
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i've hit over the over the twenty five years i've
been here, I've hit six deer. So two of them
ran into me while I was avoiding the other one.
That's a lot of deer there are, and they are
that way here, and that's the thing about it. And
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I think maybe it was after some roadkill or something
on the side of the road that it was so
preoccupied with that that it wasn't really that concerned with
me or knew you know, or was used to the
traffic in the area in some way. I mean, there
wasn't a lot of cars on the road at the time.
I'll just tell you that there was no other cars
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on the road with me. I had nobody with me.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, as you know, there are a lot of reasons
that could explain why he didn't seem to be too
concerned and he hadn't concealed himself. But what you've laid
out there for is as possible reasons, they all make
good sense. So you're probably right about that you said
that you were going about sixty miles an hour when
you saw them. Do you ever think about slowing down
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so you could get a better look, or did they
actually consider speeding up.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The Well that the thing is is that I'm always
was because of the things that have happened with the deer.
I'm always looking out for stuff, and that's how I
noticed it in the first place. Do you get what
I mean? Because I'm always looking that far down the
road for things that are coming out, because the deer
come out that often on this highway. I've had an
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encounter with deer here and a herd so big they
wouldn't move. I'm coming up on it. I had a
black out my brakes and stop. You're looking. There's thirty
deers standing in the road and more on the sides,
and they're in that big of a group and they're
not even moving. I'm honking my horn. They're just looking
at me. Wow, that's bold they are that way here.
(23:04):
That's what I'm trying to tell you, and I don't
I've had more people agree with me on that story
that they've had similar encounters with deer that way where
they just are like, yeah, Okay, we'll get out of
the way.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I guess, well, they were hanging out like Kirabo there
on the road. They are like that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
There's just they don't care, i'd say.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So you didn't realize what you were looking at at
first when you laid eyes on him. That makes me
think that you didn't have an interest in sasquatch before
that sighting happened.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's I had heard of people having encounters, but never
heard of anything around in Wisconsin. Personally, you know, no
firsthand stories of them. It's like I said, it's something
I had heard of, and yeah, honestly something I did
not expect whatsoever before I And it's to the point
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of where I was still trying to think it was
a bear for some reason, because it's the closest thing
I could think of in color to it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well, that's Awkham's razor. The simplest explanation is normally the
right one, But not that night. You saw a sasquatch
and that's all there is to it. I'm wondering though,
before you had that experience, you obviously weren't in the sasquatch,
but you are into them now. But with that said,
do you think you're hooked on the topic or you
(24:30):
just have a strong interest.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I have a very strong interest in it.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
It's like, I don't deny that I experienced what I did,
and I believe it to be true, and it makes
me more open to believe in stories that people share
with me. You know that I've heard, you know, in
information that I hear about it online, because I don't know,
(24:55):
I'm kind of a person that I think most people
wouldn't have looked into it deeper. But I have a
tendency to do that when I have experiences. But yeah,
I never expected to encounter a Sasquatch because most of
what I had heard about them is that you know,
they're in the you hear about them out in Oregon
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and stuff like that, you know, and then the mountain
regions and things like that. And I never really even
looked into that people would have sightings here in Wisconsin
until I experienced that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, that doesn't make you any difference from a lot
of eyewitnesses, most eyewitnesses actually, because yeah, it's all too
easy to think that that's a Pacific Northwest kind of thing,
that is, until you have your own sighting in your
own state. Yeah, changes it in Auray, Yes, it does.
Would you describe yourself as being shell shocked as you
(25:53):
drove the rest of the way to your parents home
or did you handle that experience without too much trouble,
because after all, it took you some time to realize
exactly what it was that you saw.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I wasn't frightened by it, but I was kind of
in denial about it, you know, where I was trying
to I was trying to make it something that I
at the time thought would make more sense.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But I just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I couldn't convince myself that it was a bear because
it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, it wasn't a ten foot tall beer standing in
the ditch that stood up.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
No, they're not that big, no matter how black bears
around here are not ten feet tall, and they're not
as wide as this thing was either, by the way,
because I mean, like I'm saying, shoulder to shoulder, Yeah,
it was like nose to butt a bear that wide.
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So it was enormous. It was giganic thing.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, he sure sounds like you was now. As you're
coming up on him the way you did, your perspective
of his body had to change. With that in mind,
did you ever get a straight on view where you
could see his torso straight on to be able to
tell if his torso had a taper or if it
was straight up.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And down it did?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It had? It had like sort of a taper to it,
very wide at the shoulders, But I didn't get any
detail of the face because of the it was. It
stood up and turned towards me as I passed, so
at sixty it was like, but I was looking in
the direction as why I'm able to describe it, But
(27:44):
it was shadowy, so I didn't get details like facial details.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Well, when you consider the fact that it was shadowy
the lighting conditions, you probably don't know the answer to
this question, but I'm going to ask anyway to be thorough.
Did anything that he did with his body give you
any clues as to if he was put off by
you being there? Or was that something you just flat
out couldn't tell.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I couldn't tell. But what I know is this is
I look back in the mirror to try to get
a better look at it after I passed and was
going into the curve. That would have given me a
view back on my mirrors and it was already gone,
so it obviously took off at after it saw me
(28:36):
see it, or just me passing it or whatever. I
don't know. Maybe it's since I was looking at it.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He just mind.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's hard to say. And how far did you say
that ditch was off the road?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I would say from where I was approximately thirty feet
away and down and it sits probably two and a
half three feet down at the center of the ditch
where it was so like I'm saying, and the thing
was still taller than my vehicle given that like three
(29:13):
feetish or whatever from the road to the to the
base of that ditch.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, he was a big boy.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Oh yeah he was. And that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
What was so impressive was that It's like it like
I was trying to make sense out of it, but
it was the it was more, I believe this or
not more than the height was the width that was
impressive to me of the shoulders because it was just big,
just like so massive. I mean, along with that height,
(29:46):
you understand what I'm saying. It wasn't like it was
ten foot ten foot tall and skinny or something, you know,
like minute bowl or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
This thing was thick, and broad and muscular.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh, I'm sure he was jacked. Did you ever contact
any investigators and share this sighting with them?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Ah? No, But I did think about it, you know,
because once I started looking into it, I saw that, Hey,
people put little pinpoints on maps with a couple of
these different places. I had thought about it, but you know,
it was kind of a passing thing. And you know,
a lot of things happen in life or whatever, but
it doesn't change what I experienced. And I mean that's
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why I was it was cool that you reached out
to talk to me about it or have me talk
about my experience.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Oh, I'm glad. That was a good thing.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, you know, I I never got to really share
it with more people than were around me. I told
a lot of people at the restaurant in Wild Roles
to meet a lot of skepticism on it. But you know,
that's how people tend to be, because I know this
isn't something that everybody experiences.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh I'm sure it wasn't received well because after all,
those people in the restaurant they know better. They know
things like sasquatch don't exist no.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Way, right, is what they think exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, definitely. Now, I know you couldn't see his face
well because it was so shadowy, but were you able
to see his head shape.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Kind of you know, like the silhouette shape.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I mean, I don't know it was it was pointier
than a gorilla's head, I guess is the best way
I could describe it from the image in my mind here,
you know what I mean by that? Not quite like
King Kong, you know what I mean, but like pointier,
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a bit taller.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
He has a classic type one look, it really is
What do your parents seem to think about your sighting
an interest in sasquatch?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
My parents, you know, of course, were very skeptical what
I told about the story, and they are, but they
tend to be you know, they're just you know, part
of the regimented generation that they are, you know, where
things like that don't happen and things like that don't exist,
and the majority of them think along those sort of lines.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
So it's okay, I'm used to that.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, I can understand them being skeptical. But when their
grown sun comes to their home and he's obviously shaken
at least a little bit, and tells them about seeing
what he saw do they just dismiss you and they
believe you.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
They dismissed it and said it had to be a bear,
even though I insisted that it was way too big
to be a bear.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Wow, that's pretty disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Then, well again again, I'm just kind of used to that,
you know what I mean kind of reaction.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well, that's a shame, shame on them.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
But well, you know you'll have that Boomers man.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, I understand. Do you think all the experiences you've
had on your back deck are related somehow to that
sighting in some way or do you think that there's
no connection between them?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I thought that, you know what I mean, I thought,
you know, maybe that's the one that I saw, you know,
like maybe they're territorial that way, you know, and I thought, well,
maybe that's that's the big guy that I saw that
I'm hearing because it comes from.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That direction kind of from here, and I can tell that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Okay, there's a high school that's very near here, and
they got playing fields, you know what I mean, where
they're out there playing baseball, running track, you know, football,
all that kind of stuff, and they got a sound system.
Well I can hear that sound system and where that's
from and it's like, I don't know, maybe a couple
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miles from here, and this sound is coming from beyond
that that I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Wow, long way off.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, And I mean it really carries. And but I
haven't heard it other than really late at night either.
You know. It was one in the morning the one time,
and it was two in the morning the time that
I heard the one callback to the other one. But
that's what I'm saying, those are from Those were from
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greater distances than that.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Field is to me with when it's making it sounds.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's a lot of volume it is.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And that's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I mean, you can kind of feel it like in
a way, like I don't know how to describe it
other than that it's like you hear it, but there's
more to it than just hearing it, Like you feel
it in your bones like a bit is the best
way to kind of describe it to me. And I'm
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you know, I'm around a lot of loud music and
a lot of things like that, you know, and I've
been around a lot of construction and machinery and things
like that, but they didn't do like how the way
that this sound carries from their calls.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's just a totally different thing. There's something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I don't know. Maybe ethric or something is the word
I'm looking for. It's like something there's something more to
it than just this roaring you know.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh no, I've heard that described countless times over when
people try to describe what they sound like. How far
were you when you had that sighting from home?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I was halfway in between my house and Wild Roles
in my parents' place.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Here is where that that was, So.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's about twenty miles, so about ten miles would have.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Been to where that sighting was about ten miles away.
If you were about ten miles away and you didn't
head straight home, you said you went to your parents' house.
If he was able to find out where you lived,
does that mean that he's a spiritual being? Is that
what you think he is or do you explain that
some other way.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'm not going to say that they're not.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And I have a feeling like that there's a lot
more to the Sasquatch thing. I think a lot. I
believe the people that say that when they say that
only certain people are able to see them, that fits
a lot of things that have happened in my life.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, it definitely does seem that way that some people
they're almost like magnets for these things. They just keep
coming around. And if you've been hearing all these vocalizations,
that sure does make me wonder what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, yeah, I mean it. All I can say about
it is I will It's like it's like other kind
of encounters that I've had in life that isn't common
to a lot of people, but I the experiences that
I have are undeniable to me, and without getting into
(37:21):
a lot of it, I've had spiritual encounters. And what
I'm saying about the Sasquatch thing is I think there's
something to that that way.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
If you've had supernatural or paranormal experiences, it sounds to
me like you're saying that you think that just might
be related to your sasquatch sighting and those other vocalizations
you've heard, But I don't want to put words into
your mouth.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Is that the case? It could be?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
It could be that it could be. I'm just more
receptive to it because I don't close myself off to
potentials of.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Encounters with spiritual things.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Man it's always good to remain open minded.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It is. It's better that way, because I think that
what keeps people from having experiences like this is that
is that they're too closed off to the potential of
anything outside of what they absolutely see and smell and
touch every day, even being part of our reality. And
(38:26):
I absolutely think it is part of our reality.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh, it definitely is. You've been hearing them from your
back deck, and you're interested in them, obviously, But would
it be a good thing or a bad thing if
you actually wound up seeing one at your property done?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It wouldn't really bother me. I didn't feel threatened by it.
I think it was more like when I saw it,
I got the impression that she got out of there
after I saw it, Like you know what I mean.
It was like he didn't stick around, and like it
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was like once he was aware of me, then he
stood up and.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Reacted to me going by it at that.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Point, but he never acted aggressive.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, I didn't feel like I didn't feel intimidated by
the experience whatsoever. But then again, I wasn't staying on
the ground with the thing. I'm in a car going sixty.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, it does change things.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
The other way.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, definitely. You told us about the calls you did
at your property with that friend. Did concerns about potential
blowback you might have gotten from doing that? No, Actually,
the thing is this is that there was always so
many deer around in the back.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That I thought, maybe you know that if we called
and something showed up, it would take an interest in
all these deer that were on our property there because
this was at work. And man, one time we counted
with a flashlight all at the back window. We counted
twenty five deer that we could shine their eyes, so
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big groups of them would hang out because we fed them.
We fed them sweep potatoes.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Well, no wonder they'd hang around.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh yeah, well they're around anyway. So it was more
like a way to get rid of the byproducts.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No, I get it. I do.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Well.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Don.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing
the details of that experience with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Well, thank you for having me, and I appreciate your
interest in it, and everybody who may listen to this,
I appreciate their interest in it. And just know this
that Hey, I'm a believer. I know like there's no
other explanation for what I saw, and I'm trying my
best to describe the way that I experienced it so
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that maybe that'll help somebody else understand or maybe not
be afraid of what they've experienced or afraid to share
it either.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Well, it's admirable you have those concerns and you're not
a believer, you're a knower. You know they're out there.
Yeah true, Yeah that you do. Well? All right, then,
don thanks again so much for your time, Like I said,
and have a great night.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
My name is Don Neeson and I've lived in the
center of the state of Wisconsin for about twenty five
years now. I moved here from Racine, Wisconsin, so I
grew up in a city, and it's a totally different
world here. There's a lot of wildlife. I've had a
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lot of wildlife encounters. I've seen bear, I've seen wolves.
I've seen so many deer I can't even tell you,
probably thousands. And I had the good fortune of being
able to work for a company that owned multiple acres
(00:59):
of land and so got to spend a lot of
time in.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
The woods and get close with the woods.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And I worked on different projects that way. But what
brought us up up here originally was we vacationed here
when I was young and spent time on the chain
of Lakes in Wapaca. My parents, their retirement home is
in Wapaca, and I live there with them now. And
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I was living in wild Rolls with my family at
the time that I had an encounter with something that
I really at first didn't understand what it was. And
I was heading to Wapaca from Wild Rolls, so coming
from the south on Highway twenty two, and it crosses
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through a corner of Portage County, And in this little
corner of Portage County, which is about halfway between the two,
is where I had my encounter with this creature that
in my mind, I wasn't fully aware of what I
(02:10):
saw at the time because it took me by surprise
because I I was approaching from a distance and it
was a big curve. Well there was all woods on
the side and a road that goes up into the
woods up to a hillside, and I was approaching up
towards that road that goes up the hillside, and I
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was probably about three hundred feet away from that intersection
as I was approaching where I first saw this black
furry thing moving. And I call it a creature right now,
because I thought it was a bear at first that
(02:59):
I was seeing because it was the color of a
black bear around here that I've seen before. But as
I got closer, it was moving in a way that
I didn't understand. It didn't make sense for like a
walking bear. But the bigger surprise was when I got
(03:23):
closer to it. This thing was moving around and then
in paw like pawing or pulling at something in the ditch,
and as I got closer, it stood up. And that's
(03:45):
when I was like in absolute shock. So now this
is happening. When I'm closing, I'm about thirty feet away
from it as it makes this motion to stand, and
I'm looking to the side and I see this enormous,
what I would describe as ten foot black furry animal
(04:08):
thing stand up and my brain is short circuiting as
I'm going past this because I'm going, well, oh, that's
not a bear. And I went to look in the
mirror as I went past because I'm doing sixty and
I mean, all of this happened in the time about
(04:31):
two minutes where I'm trying to figure out what I'm
looking at. I see something and then it takes this
form of this ten foot tall furry animal. And I
didn't even think sasquatch at the time. I just knew
(04:52):
it wasn't a bear, and I was trying to figure
out what this was that I actually saw, And you
got now I'm like ten minutes more ride to my
parents' house at this time, and I'm having this argument
like with myself in my mind and actually out loud,
like I'm going, well, I don't know, I didn't see it.
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I think that it looked like the color of a bear,
but that was way too big to be a bear.
And that was the thing about it to me, is
it was this the size of it and the width
of it at the shoulders when it stood, and it
was in a ditch, and this thing was still taller
(05:36):
than my car while it was standing in the ditch.
It was that tall. And I passed it and I
had to be you know, I was on the other
lane of the highway. I had to be within thirty
feet of this enormous creature that I was looking at.
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But it was so fast that I I couldn't get
the details, like to make out a facial features out
of it. And it was there was a shadow that
was being cast over the road at that time. It
was late, it was almost towards sunset, you know, where
it's still a bit bright out, but there's long shadows everywhere,
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So that kind of contributed to that I couldn't make
out the details because I was in the side of
the road that was brighter and the shadow was being
cast over that side of the road. So I proceeded
to go to my parents' house because that's what I
was doing, was on my way to visit my parents
that evening, just to say hi and whatever and well,
(06:43):
and when I got here, I'm I'm like in shock,
and I'm like, I don't you know. I'm telling my
parents about it, and I'm like, I don't know what
I saw, but I saw something really big and black,
but it wasn't a bear, I'm telling I said, But
they're like, are you sure it wasn't a bear? And
(07:04):
I'm like yeah, I'm like I had this argument myself
with myself for ten minutes here, and I know it
wasn't a bear. I'm convinced that it wasn't a bear,
but I don't really know what it was. But it
was enormous, And when I got to thinking about it later,
(07:30):
I was like, you know, that had to be a bigfoot.
It had to be a sasquatch that I saw, because
there's nothing else that's that enormous that I've heard anybody
ever describe. So that got me interested in the subject
of it and looking into it. And one of the
facts I found out about it was that, in particular
(07:55):
that sasquatch sightings or bigfoot sightings or whatever you want
to call them in Wisconsin and in Minnesota tend to
be black in color and large, nine to ten feet.
So this, you know, research that I did a little
bit of, you know, just checking out online and stuff
like that, explained it more to me than I could
(08:19):
figure out kind of on my own. And besides that,
and you know, that's the only time I've had a
visual contact encounter with a sasquatch. And I say it
now that that's what it was, was a bigfoot in
a sasquatch. And I say it with confidence because I
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know what I saw. I know I've never seen anything
like it, and I know it was way bigger than
any bear I've ever seen, and I've seen three in
the area here, just you know, in the wild. So
I was I was left with a lot of questions,
(09:02):
but a lot but it kind of sparked an interest
in me in it, but I didn't really I don't know,
other than have a loose interest in tell people my
story about how I really believed I had encountered a bigfoot,
and a lot of people you know, are skeptical about it,
and a lot of people you know give you the up. Yeah, Okay,
sure you know all these things, but you know that's
(09:26):
because they've never experienced anything like that. Besides that, a
different encounter I had is because I'm here on a lake.
We got a we're on a thirty acre lake, and
we're on a peninsula. And what it is is that
late at night, and I used to smoke cigarettes. I
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don't anymore, I quit a couple of years ago, but
at the time, you know, when you're a smoker, you'll
get up weird hours of the night and have cigarettes
or whatever it is when you get up. And it
just so happened to be that one time I got up,
it was about two in the morning, and I stepped
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out on the deck because my parents don't smoke, so
I stepped out on the deck and I had a cigarette,
and off in the distance, I heard what I knew
now from looking into things to be a sasquatch. And
I'd heard plenty of coyotes and howling at night and
(10:29):
all the different cackling they do, and they pretty much
dominate the night sounds around here. When you hear things,
I mean, sometimes you'll hear raccoons, you know, chattering away
down by the water. But this sound that I heard
was definitely what people describe as a sasquatch. And the
thing about it was that sound carried and echoed like
(10:53):
through the hills here in this lake area that I
live in. And the thing about it was in that
first one was that there was an answer back to
that first call that here and I'm like, what the
heck am I experiencing here? I'm like, it was crazy.
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It was as as loud, but from the left hand side,
where the original call that I heard was from the
right hand side. So this thing had called back to
this other sound at a great distance, and I was
(11:36):
like really impressed with it, And I mean it was
the thing about it was it was so.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Much force behind.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It wasn't like I've heard lyons roar, and this thing
was deeper and more.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Extended and full tone to it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, then I had I told my brother about this story,
and I've had told him about my encounter that I had,
and he was visiting here and we had heard we
had heard that together.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
That night and.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So it was a separate occasion that I had heard
the solo one with my brother, but the two that
I heard call back I had.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Told him about before that happened.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So it was just odd. And the thing is is,
it's not like I was trying to I wasn't seeking
out to hear this, just like I wasn't seeking out
to see the sasquatch that I saw. These are things
that I don't know. They just happened, is the best
(12:54):
way I can describe them. So the only experiences I
had other than that is, you know, I've had one
friend that was interested in it. I had one friend
that I worked with that me and him used to
(13:16):
do sasquatch calls through a cone, you know, to see
like if we could get responses to it. And you
know what I mean, like a big traffic cone because
it sounded like those sounds almost, you know what I mean.
So we were playing around because there's a lot of
deer in the woods in our area, so we thought,
hey man, you know, if there's a sasquatch around, and
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I had seen one before that I was telling them about, well,
you know, maybe we'd get a response, but we never did.
You know I never heard any knocking or I never
heard any response to what we were doing. But I
think he believed that I had experienced what I did.
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And I know that if another friend of mine that
he's a Sasquatch guy, and I know that he believes
in the story that I told him, because that's pretty
much how I ended up here. And that's my buddy Jason.
So that's about all I have to say.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What's better than having a sasquatch sighting having friends who
will do calls with you and help you do research
and investigations. That's great. You've got friends that will help
you do that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, yeah, it's nice because I mean, it made me
feel better because I mean mostly I meet with skepticism
on the subject of it. But it's nice that some people.
And hey, my brother couldn't deny what he heard that night,
that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'll bet he couldn't, just like I couldn't. I'm like,
what else is that?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts going through your head.
You told us that you live in the center of Wisconsin,
down is the center of the state. Theory you think
would be most inviting to sasquatch or do you think
another part of the state would be more impediently.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I've been to the far North, and I think the
far North would. But I think what the main thing
that would bring sasquatch to this area is the very
large population of deer that we have here. I mean,
it's it's a huge population here. I heard that over
half the herd is in the three counties near us.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, that is a lot of deer. With that in mind,
is central Wisconsin known to have a lot of sasquatch
sidings because it sure sounds to me like a great
place for them to live.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, to my knowledge, I have yet to run into
another individual that says, hey, they have seen that before.
But I didn't grow up here either, you know. But
what I can tell you about the area is it's
way more wooded than people think, and there's a lot
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of food for the deer. And we have milder a
bit winters, you know. So there's a lot of things
that are conducive to the wildlife around here. And we
have a lot of good clean water because it's in
the sand plains of the state, so you know, a
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lot of filtered spring fed water sources around here.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, well more could they ask for sounds like a
great place for them.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, yeah, that And what I'll also say is we
do have a bit of topography around here that people
wouldn't think, I guess necessarily common here because you know,
we're not that far from the Dells area, so you
know there's a lot of that topography you know, that
carries through this area that way.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, they love that too. Powermolt was that area we
had sighting.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, it's a pretty what it is is there's a
big dairy farm, there's a big pig farm, and a
big goat farm, and it's like all rate as you cross,
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and what there used to be is a lot of
like corn crop and soybean crop fields. And I'm describing
the area as I'm approaching this area and then it
gets a bit hilly right where that curve is like,
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and then down in the dip in the valley side
on the right side is big farm fields and big
potato farms, and it's like hundreds of acres of that.
But each one of these patches are divided by kind
of big thick wooded area. There is a small farmhouse
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in the valley to the right of that area. And
then on the left about I don't know, five hundred
feet past where I sighted, near that corner, there's a
small home, but it's set back on the hillside and
the woods there and the properties that are in that
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area like that, you know, they'll have say thirty forty
acres and a house in the middle of it, and
it's tucked into the woods. So it's not really highly
developed at all in that area as far as you know,
any kind of industry or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It's farmland and woods.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Perfect habitat form. That explains a lot. Was there anything
about the road you're driving on that night that could
explain why the sasquatch didn't conceal it before you came
along and we're able to see it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, I just think because we were approaching that you
know that dusk kind of time, you know, so sunset
dusk kind of time, and because I see a lot
of animals on the move then here, to be honest
with you, so it doesn't really surprise me that they
would be, you know, comfortable at that time, just like
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the deer are.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, that explains a way. It's concerns about you possibly
being able to see it, but was there anything about
the topography that might make it easy to understand how
it couldn't have heard you from a long way off?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Often, Well, it was. I would say that it pretty
much didn't care about me other than un till I
was right on it. It was minding its own business,
like you know what I mean. It was about whatever
it had found in that ditch, and the thing was
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that reacted to me approaching. So it must have been
pretty occupied with whatever it was doing.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It must have been, but that's still kind of unusual
for these guys. But then again, on the other hand,
if you're a ten foot tall sasquatch, I wouldn't imagine
that you worry about much.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Right, Yeah, I mean, what's it really afraid of? I
mean it was well off the road, like you understand
what I mean, in the ditch side, so it wasn't
like it was anywhere near. And you would think if
something's like I don't know, if something's in an area,
you would think that it probably gets used to a
(20:43):
certain amount of the traffic that goes by through the area.
It's a truck route, you know, so you just would
kind of logically think it may get used to traffic
to some degree. But I'll tell you what happened because
of the deer population is there's a lot of deer
that could hit on these roads, and on Highway twenty two. Myself,
(21:08):
i've hit over the over the twenty five years i've
been here, I've hit six deer. So two of them
ran into me while I was avoiding the other one.
That's a lot of deer there are, and they are
that way here, and that's the thing about it. And
(21:29):
I think maybe it was after some roadkill or something
on the side of the road that it was so
preoccupied with that that it wasn't really that concerned with
me or knew you know, or was used to the
traffic in the area in some way. I mean, there
wasn't a lot of cars on the road at the time.
I'll just tell you that there was no other cars
(21:50):
on the road with me. I had nobody with me.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, as you know, there are a lot of reasons
that could explain why he didn't seem to be too
concerned and he hadn't concealed himself. But what you've laid
out there for is as possible reasons, they all make
good sense. So you're probably right about that you said
that you were going about sixty miles an hour when
you saw them. Do you ever think about slowing down
(22:13):
so you could get a better look, or did they
actually consider speeding up.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The Well that the thing is is that I'm always
was because of the things that have happened with the deer.
I'm always looking out for stuff, and that's how I
noticed it in the first place. Do you get what
I mean? Because I'm always looking that far down the
road for things that are coming out, because the deer
come out that often on this highway. I've had an
(22:41):
encounter with deer here and a herd so big they
wouldn't move. I'm coming up on it. I had a
black out my brakes and stop. You're looking. There's thirty
deers standing in the road and more on the sides,
and they're in that big of a group and they're
not even moving. I'm honking my horn. They're just looking
at me. Wow, that's bold they are that way here.
(23:04):
That's what I'm trying to tell you, and I don't
I've had more people agree with me on that story
that they've had similar encounters with deer that way where
they just are like, yeah, Okay, we'll get out of
the way.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I guess, well, they were hanging out like Kirabo there
on the road. They are like that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
There's just they don't care, i'd say.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So you didn't realize what you were looking at at
first when you laid eyes on him. That makes me
think that you didn't have an interest in sasquatch before
that sighting happened.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's I had heard of people having encounters, but never
heard of anything around in Wisconsin. Personally, you know, no
firsthand stories of them. It's like I said, it's something
I had heard of, and yeah, honestly something I did
not expect whatsoever before I And it's to the point
(24:00):
of where I was still trying to think it was
a bear for some reason, because it's the closest thing
I could think of in color to it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well, that's Awkham's razor. The simplest explanation is normally the
right one, But not that night. You saw a sasquatch
and that's all there is to it. I'm wondering though,
before you had that experience, you obviously weren't in the sasquatch,
but you are into them now. But with that said,
do you think you're hooked on the topic or you
(24:30):
just have a strong interest.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I have a very strong interest in it.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
It's like, I don't deny that I experienced what I did,
and I believe it to be true, and it makes
me more open to believe in stories that people share
with me. You know that I've heard, you know, in
information that I hear about it online, because I don't know,
(24:55):
I'm kind of a person that I think most people
wouldn't have looked into it deeper. But I have a
tendency to do that when I have experiences. But yeah,
I never expected to encounter a Sasquatch because most of
what I had heard about them is that you know,
they're in the you hear about them out in Oregon
(25:16):
and stuff like that, you know, and then the mountain
regions and things like that. And I never really even
looked into that people would have sightings here in Wisconsin
until I experienced that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, that doesn't make you any difference from a lot
of eyewitnesses, most eyewitnesses actually, because yeah, it's all too
easy to think that that's a Pacific Northwest kind of thing,
that is, until you have your own sighting in your
own state. Yeah, changes it in Auray, Yes, it does.
Would you describe yourself as being shell shocked as you
(25:53):
drove the rest of the way to your parents home
or did you handle that experience without too much trouble,
because after all, it took you some time to realize
exactly what it was that you saw.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I wasn't frightened by it, but I was kind of
in denial about it, you know, where I was trying
to I was trying to make it something that I
at the time thought would make more sense.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But I just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I couldn't convince myself that it was a bear because
it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, it wasn't a ten foot tall beer standing in
the ditch that stood up.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
No, they're not that big, no matter how black bears
around here are not ten feet tall, and they're not
as wide as this thing was either, by the way,
because I mean, like I'm saying, shoulder to shoulder, Yeah,
it was like nose to butt a bear that wide.
(26:57):
So it was enormous. It was giganic thing.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, he sure sounds like you was now. As you're
coming up on him the way you did, your perspective
of his body had to change. With that in mind,
did you ever get a straight on view where you
could see his torso straight on to be able to
tell if his torso had a taper or if it
was straight up.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And down it did?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It had? It had like sort of a taper to it,
very wide at the shoulders, But I didn't get any
detail of the face because of the it was. It
stood up and turned towards me as I passed, so
at sixty it was like, but I was looking in
the direction as why I'm able to describe it, But
(27:44):
it was shadowy, so I didn't get details like facial details.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Well, when you consider the fact that it was shadowy
the lighting conditions, you probably don't know the answer to
this question, but I'm going to ask anyway to be thorough.
Did anything that he did with his body give you
any clues as to if he was put off by
you being there? Or was that something you just flat
out couldn't tell.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I couldn't tell. But what I know is this is
I look back in the mirror to try to get
a better look at it after I passed and was
going into the curve. That would have given me a
view back on my mirrors and it was already gone,
so it obviously took off at after it saw me
(28:36):
see it, or just me passing it or whatever. I
don't know. Maybe it's since I was looking at it.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He just mind.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's hard to say. And how far did you say
that ditch was off the road?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I would say from where I was approximately thirty feet
away and down and it sits probably two and a
half three feet down at the center of the ditch
where it was so like I'm saying, and the thing
was still taller than my vehicle given that like three
(29:13):
feetish or whatever from the road to the to the
base of that ditch.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, he was a big boy.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Oh yeah he was. And that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
What was so impressive was that It's like it like
I was trying to make sense out of it, but
it was the it was more, I believe this or
not more than the height was the width that was
impressive to me of the shoulders because it was just big,
just like so massive. I mean, along with that height,
(29:46):
you understand what I'm saying. It wasn't like it was
ten foot ten foot tall and skinny or something, you know,
like minute bowl or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
This thing was thick, and broad and muscular.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh, I'm sure he was jacked. Did you ever contact
any investigators and share this sighting with them?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Ah? No, But I did think about it, you know,
because once I started looking into it, I saw that, Hey,
people put little pinpoints on maps with a couple of
these different places. I had thought about it, but you know,
it was kind of a passing thing. And you know,
a lot of things happen in life or whatever, but
it doesn't change what I experienced. And I mean that's
(30:31):
why I was it was cool that you reached out
to talk to me about it or have me talk
about my experience.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Oh, I'm glad. That was a good thing.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, you know, I I never got to really share
it with more people than were around me. I told
a lot of people at the restaurant in Wild Roles
to meet a lot of skepticism on it. But you know,
that's how people tend to be, because I know this
isn't something that everybody experiences.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh I'm sure it wasn't received well because after all,
those people in the restaurant they know better. They know
things like sasquatch don't exist no.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Way, right, is what they think exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, definitely. Now, I know you couldn't see his face
well because it was so shadowy, but were you able
to see his head shape.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Kind of you know, like the silhouette shape.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I mean, I don't know it was it was pointier
than a gorilla's head, I guess is the best way
I could describe it from the image in my mind here,
you know what I mean by that? Not quite like
King Kong, you know what I mean, but like pointier,
(31:46):
a bit taller.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
He has a classic type one look, it really is
What do your parents seem to think about your sighting
an interest in sasquatch?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
My parents, you know, of course, were very skeptical what
I told about the story, and they are, but they
tend to be you know, they're just you know, part
of the regimented generation that they are, you know, where
things like that don't happen and things like that don't exist,
and the majority of them think along those sort of lines.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
So it's okay, I'm used to that.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, I can understand them being skeptical. But when their
grown sun comes to their home and he's obviously shaken
at least a little bit, and tells them about seeing
what he saw do they just dismiss you and they
believe you.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
They dismissed it and said it had to be a bear,
even though I insisted that it was way too big
to be a bear.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Wow, that's pretty disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Then, well again again, I'm just kind of used to that,
you know what I mean kind of reaction.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well, that's a shame, shame on them.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
But well, you know you'll have that Boomers man.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, I understand. Do you think all the experiences you've
had on your back deck are related somehow to that
sighting in some way or do you think that there's
no connection between them?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I thought that, you know what I mean, I thought,
you know, maybe that's the one that I saw, you know,
like maybe they're territorial that way, you know, and I thought, well,
maybe that's that's the big guy that I saw that
I'm hearing because it comes from.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That direction kind of from here, and I can tell that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Okay, there's a high school that's very near here, and
they got playing fields, you know what I mean, where
they're out there playing baseball, running track, you know, football,
all that kind of stuff, and they got a sound system.
Well I can hear that sound system and where that's
from and it's like, I don't know, maybe a couple
(33:59):
miles from here, and this sound is coming from beyond
that that I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Wow, long way off.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, And I mean it really carries. And but I
haven't heard it other than really late at night either.
You know. It was one in the morning the one time,
and it was two in the morning the time that
I heard the one callback to the other one. But
that's what I'm saying, those are from Those were from
(34:30):
greater distances than that.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Field is to me with when it's making it sounds.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's a lot of volume it is.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And that's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I mean, you can kind of feel it like in
a way, like I don't know how to describe it
other than that it's like you hear it, but there's
more to it than just hearing it, Like you feel
it in your bones like a bit is the best
way to kind of describe it to me. And I'm
(35:01):
you know, I'm around a lot of loud music and
a lot of things like that, you know, and I've
been around a lot of construction and machinery and things
like that, but they didn't do like how the way
that this sound carries from their calls.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's just a totally different thing. There's something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I don't know. Maybe ethric or something is the word
I'm looking for. It's like something there's something more to
it than just this roaring you know.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh no, I've heard that described countless times over when
people try to describe what they sound like. How far
were you when you had that sighting from home?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I was halfway in between my house and Wild Roles
in my parents' place.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Here is where that that was, So.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's about twenty miles, so about ten miles would have.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Been to where that sighting was about ten miles away.
If you were about ten miles away and you didn't
head straight home, you said you went to your parents' house.
If he was able to find out where you lived,
does that mean that he's a spiritual being? Is that
what you think he is or do you explain that
some other way.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'm not going to say that they're not.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And I have a feeling like that there's a lot
more to the Sasquatch thing. I think a lot. I
believe the people that say that when they say that
only certain people are able to see them, that fits
a lot of things that have happened in my life.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, it definitely does seem that way that some people
they're almost like magnets for these things. They just keep
coming around. And if you've been hearing all these vocalizations,
that sure does make me wonder what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, yeah, I mean it. All I can say about
it is I will It's like it's like other kind
of encounters that I've had in life that isn't common
to a lot of people, but I the experiences that
I have are undeniable to me, and without getting into
(37:21):
a lot of it, I've had spiritual encounters. And what
I'm saying about the Sasquatch thing is I think there's
something to that that way.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
If you've had supernatural or paranormal experiences, it sounds to
me like you're saying that you think that just might
be related to your sasquatch sighting and those other vocalizations
you've heard, But I don't want to put words into
your mouth.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Is that the case? It could be?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
It could be that it could be. I'm just more
receptive to it because I don't close myself off to
potentials of.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Encounters with spiritual things.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Man it's always good to remain open minded.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It is. It's better that way, because I think that
what keeps people from having experiences like this is that
is that they're too closed off to the potential of
anything outside of what they absolutely see and smell and
touch every day, even being part of our reality. And
(38:26):
I absolutely think it is part of our reality.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh, it definitely is. You've been hearing them from your
back deck, and you're interested in them, obviously, But would
it be a good thing or a bad thing if
you actually wound up seeing one at your property done?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It wouldn't really bother me. I didn't feel threatened by it.
I think it was more like when I saw it,
I got the impression that she got out of there
after I saw it, Like you know what I mean.
It was like he didn't stick around, and like it
(39:06):
was like once he was aware of me, then he
stood up and.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Reacted to me going by it at that.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Point, but he never acted aggressive.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, I didn't feel like I didn't feel intimidated by
the experience whatsoever. But then again, I wasn't staying on
the ground with the thing. I'm in a car going sixty.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, it does change things.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
The other way.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, definitely. You told us about the calls you did
at your property with that friend. Did concerns about potential
blowback you might have gotten from doing that? No, Actually,
the thing is this is that there was always so
many deer around in the back.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That I thought, maybe you know that if we called
and something showed up, it would take an interest in
all these deer that were on our property there because
this was at work. And man, one time we counted
with a flashlight all at the back window. We counted
twenty five deer that we could shine their eyes, so
(40:13):
big groups of them would hang out because we fed them.
We fed them sweep potatoes.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Well, no wonder they'd hang around.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh yeah, well they're around anyway. So it was more
like a way to get rid of the byproducts.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No, I get it. I do.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Well.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Don.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing
the details of that experience with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Well, thank you for having me, and I appreciate your
interest in it, and everybody who may listen to this,
I appreciate their interest in it. And just know this
that Hey, I'm a believer. I know like there's no
other explanation for what I saw, and I'm trying my
best to describe the way that I experienced it so
(40:58):
that maybe that'll help somebody else understand or maybe not
be afraid of what they've experienced or afraid to share
it either.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Well, it's admirable you have those concerns and you're not
a believer, you're a knower. You know they're out there.
Yeah true, Yeah that you do. Well? All right, then,
don thanks again so much for your time, Like I said,
and have a great night.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
Vic Keundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
like to be a guest on the show, please go
to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, Have a
great night.
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